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Nancy Guthrie Investigation | 2026 World Cup Boycott · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 2: on the Nancy Guthrie investigation. The big story is that
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  Speaker 2: Nanthy Guthrie's children posted a new plea for their mom's
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  Speaker 2: return on social media and Savannah Guthrie saying outright in
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  Speaker 2: a very short statement, we will pay.
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  Speaker 1: And we have more information on the ransom notes. There's
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  Speaker 1: two of them.
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  Speaker 2: The purported abductor or abductors demanding six million dollars and
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  Speaker 2: bitcoined by five pm today and the note includes a
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  Speaker 2: threat to Guthrie's life if the deadline is is not met.
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  Speaker 2: No suspects yet at all. Officials are continuing the investigation
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  Speaker 2: on the second note because they're looking into the authenticity
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  Speaker 2: of the second note. Send to TV station KOLD on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: That note, the note mentioned no deadline, included some sensitive information.
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  Speaker 2: The second note, no deadline. And this, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: the cash batl the FBI director is in Tucson, Arizona,
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  Speaker 2: but not for this case. They said, is something that
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  Speaker 2: was planned before. So it's a weird coincidence here, and
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  Speaker 2: so let's go through this a little bit. At least
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  Speaker 2: three media outlets TMZ CNN. Two son affiliates, Kold and Kgun,
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  Speaker 2: received these ransom notes demanding the millions of dollars in bitcoin,
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  Speaker 2: and it was Kold received that second note on Friday,
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  Speaker 2: no deadline, but sensitive information to prove.
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  Speaker 1: That they in fact have Nancy Guthrie.
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  Speaker 2: And the latest the first social post by the Guthrie family,
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  Speaker 2: that is, Savannah and her siblings or brother and sister
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  Speaker 2: were asking for the return of their mom and saying Mom,
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  Speaker 2: if you're hearing this, you're strong. It was very very moving,
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  Speaker 2: and this last one was very cryptic, just we will pay,
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  Speaker 2: and we're hearing that.
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  Speaker 1: There is no issue.
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  Speaker 2: That was very carefully crafted by the FBI and they
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  Speaker 2: know the Guthree family will pay and six million dollars
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  Speaker 2: they're prepared to pay.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: The FBI strongly suggests you do not pay terrorists, you
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  Speaker 2: don't pay people who you don't pay kidnappers. However, if
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  Speaker 2: the family decides to pay, then what ends up by
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  Speaker 2: happening is the support the family in any way they want.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: For example, when terror is kidnapped French and Italian people,
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  Speaker 2: the government pays, they let the finana, they let the
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  Speaker 2: family pay.
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  Speaker 1: And the government's right checks.
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  Speaker 2: The US government does not, which is why American abductees
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  Speaker 2: have it much much worse.
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  Speaker 1: So a quick deadline or a quick timeline.
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  Speaker 2: Saturday, Nancy Guthrie takes an uber to her daughter's home
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  Speaker 2: Annie around five thirty in the afternoon. Family members take
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  Speaker 2: her back home. The garage door opens at nine forty eight,
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  Speaker 2: closes at nine point fifty.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Sunday the next day one for seven am, a few
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  Speaker 2: hours after Nancy Guthrie is believed to have returned home.
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  Speaker 2: Her doorbell camera is disconnected. They know that happened at
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  Speaker 2: one am. At two twelve am, the surveillance CA surveillance
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  Speaker 2: camera detects software detects some movement outside her home. Her
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  Speaker 2: pacemaker app data shows it was disconnected from her phone
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  Speaker 2: at two twenty eight.
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  Speaker 1: Relatives at eleven fifty six.
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  Speaker 2: Am well they go out to look for her because
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  Speaker 2: she was absent from church and she never is, and
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  Speaker 2: they discover she wasn't home. At twelveh three pm, they
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  Speaker 2: report her missing. The sheriff's department arrives at twelve fifteen,
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  Speaker 2: twelve minutes later. By the way, the Pina County Sheriff's
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  Speaker 2: office is still guarding Nancy Guthrie's home. It's almost well,
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  Speaker 2: it's the eighth day and it's not looking very good, mainly.
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  Speaker 1: Because of the medication part.
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  Speaker 2: If the kidnappers are still demanding money, each answers are
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  Speaker 2: they have Nancy gut Thrie and she's still alive, except
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  Speaker 2: for the fact that day one, the sheriff of Pima
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  Speaker 2: County said that she needs medication and if she doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have it, it's life threatening. And this is up to
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  Speaker 2: day day eight, and we don't know at this point
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  Speaker 2: whether she had it or not. My guess is she
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  Speaker 2: didn't Otherwise I don't know if the sheriff would have
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  Speaker 2: said that she needed that medication. And investigator investigators are
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  Speaker 2: ramping up the search as a matter of fact. In
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  Speaker 2: one instance, there is a video of a sheriff investigator
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  Speaker 2: going into the septic tank, or at least opening the
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  Speaker 2: septic tank up and poking it with a stick.
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  Speaker 1: And we have no.
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  Speaker 2: Information that God forbid, her body was found. And this
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  Speaker 2: is it has connections to the Lindbergh baby, Lindbergh baby
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  Speaker 2: that was kidnapped in the early thirties, Charles Lindberg's child,
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  Speaker 2: and they found the baby in a well near the house,
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  Speaker 2: and certainly we hope that this doesn't happen. All right,
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  Speaker 2: that's the latest on that, and obviously any news that's
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  Speaker 2: breaking will report to you.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter when.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Okay, the World Cup is coming to the
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  Speaker 2: south Land. Well this year twenty twenty six. We know
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  Speaker 2: exactly when is it coming. What day is it arriving here?
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  Speaker 2: First day?
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  Speaker 1: Amy? Do we know you would in July? July? That's good?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, it's gonna be great, and I think Anne's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be there so she'll be able to enjoy yourself. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: Calls for a European led boycott had actually grown and
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  Speaker 2: grown in recent weeks even louder. How about the possible
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  Speaker 2: ability is this going to happen? Nope, absolutely not. Alan
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  Speaker 2: Rothenberg organized the soccer tournament in the nineteen eighty four
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  Speaker 2: LA Games and that was boycotted by nineteen countries. Here
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  Speaker 2: we are ten years later, and he led the organization
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  Speaker 2: that put on the nineteen ninety four World Cup and
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  Speaker 2: that was the first held in the US and still
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  Speaker 2: to this day the best attended in history. So you've
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  Speaker 2: got politicians and soccer official soccer officials in several European countries,
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  Speaker 2: Key Ones, Germany, France, Denmark, the United Kingdom. They've raised
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  Speaker 2: the idea of skipping this summer's World Cup, and mainly
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  Speaker 2: in response to President Trump, and mainly in response to
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  Speaker 2: President Trump's demands that Denmark hand over Greenland, and that
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  Speaker 2: has really pissed off Europe. But even with that, boycott
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  Speaker 2: is not going to happen. And why is that? Well,
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  Speaker 2: because the World Cup is run by FIFA, which shank
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  Speaker 2: sanctions every level of soccer globally. It both rights and
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  Speaker 2: enforces its own laws. It can ban a federation and
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  Speaker 2: by extension, the national teams from any from all competition.
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  Speaker 1: So here's an example.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say FIFA bans a country and its women's team
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  Speaker 2: from the next summer World Cup. Okay, it ends up
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  Speaker 2: costing the federation itself millions of dollars in revenue, and
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  Speaker 2: that makes them think twice.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the case of Russia.
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  Speaker 2: After Russia invaded Ukraine in twenty twenty two, FIFA, under
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  Speaker 2: enormous political pressure, banned Russia from international soccer, completely barring
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  Speaker 2: it from competing and qualifying for the twenty twenty two
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  Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six World Cups. And keeping it out
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  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four euros. See how that works, and
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  Speaker 2: as a result, Russia hasn't played in any competitive match
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  Speaker 2: since November of twenty twenty one. Now it gets interesting
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  Speaker 2: because FIFA's penalties can be really arbitrary inconsistent. In twenty fourteen,
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  Speaker 2: four days after the Winter Games in Soshi, Russia, Russia
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  Speaker 2: invade Ukraine first time, an annexus CRIMEA less than four
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  Speaker 2: months later, Russia played in the World Cup.
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  Speaker 1: Four years later, it hosted the World Cup and.
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  Speaker 2: FIFA president Gianani Infantino sat right next to Putin. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so wait a second pressure for FIFA to boycott, not
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  Speaker 2: a chance, and now Infantino is pushing to lift the
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  Speaker 2: sanctions on Russia completely, even though Putin has stepped up
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  Speaker 2: the war. No country has boycotted a World Cup since
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  Speaker 2: World War Two. Now the Olympic, Olympic, the Olympic boycotts, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: they've been more frequent, and you've got coalitions on that one.
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  Speaker 1: For example, you've got.
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  Speaker 2: Five dozen countries refused to take part in the Summer
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  Speaker 2: Games four times between nineteen fifty six nineteen eighty four.
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  Speaker 2: But these were coordinated by politicians, not athletes, not the federations.
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  Speaker 2: The biggest one was President Carter, the largest boycott and
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  Speaker 2: he rallied more than sixty countries to skip the nineteen
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  Speaker 2: eighty Moscow Olympics. Following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Four
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  Speaker 2: years later, you have the Soviet Bloc countries stayed home
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  Speaker 2: from the la Olympics in response. So there were no
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  Speaker 2: Russian Bulgarian athletes at all. And my favorite athletes, as
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  Speaker 2: I did in the promo, are the Bulgarian weightlifters, particularly
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  Speaker 2: the women who weighed four hundred pounds and have a
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  Speaker 2: tremendous amount of back hair.
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  Speaker 1: There.
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  Speaker 2: I mean big throng Russian women, Bulgarian women, And as
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  Speaker 2: I said in the promo, horse gets stuck in mud,
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  Speaker 2: they pull out without tractor.
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  Speaker 1: Very strong women. So what do you do. You're not
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  Speaker 1: going to boycott, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Germany officially ruled out of boycott last Saturday. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: in Germany, one of the Germans Soccer federations eleven vice
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  Speaker 2: president did say it's seriously time to consider a boycott.
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  Speaker 2: The federation president said that ain't gonna happen. So is
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  Speaker 2: there going to be a boycott? No, But by the way,
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  Speaker 2: still being kept alive because the possibility, the possibility of
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  Speaker 2: a boycott can be just as effective as actually following
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  Speaker 2: through with the boycott. And here's an example. Talk of
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  Speaker 2: the World Cup protest is being noted by Russian It's
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  Speaker 2: being argued that may have played a part in Trump's
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  Speaker 2: decision to back off the threats of invading Greenland.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know that.
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  Speaker 2: And the other issue of boycotting here are games, immigration raids,
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  Speaker 2: threat by Trump's to bomb Iran, which happens to be
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  Speaker 2: a qualifier in the World Cup. The Ranian athletes are
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  Speaker 2: going to be here, and the issue of using military
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  Speaker 2: to get rid of or to capture Madura.
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  Speaker 1: So right now there.
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  Speaker 2: Is a University of Segovia, Spain professor who says the
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  Speaker 2: perceptions are the United States is in a very valuable
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  Speaker 2: or volatile political situation is very unusual. Now, that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean that fans aren't going to boycott. And I have
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  Speaker 2: to tell you why FIFA loves the idea of fans boycotting,
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  Speaker 2: because fans boycotting that already bought their tickets are going
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  Speaker 2: to resell their tickets. And who isn't FIFA gets fifteen
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  Speaker 2: percent from the seller and fifteen percent from the buyer
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  Speaker 2: after having sold the original tickets. So I don't know
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  Speaker 2: why FIFA isn't talking about fans boycotting all right, now,
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  Speaker 2: let me tell you something about wargames. Wargames are their
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  Speaker 2: exercise in virtually every country, and what wargames do is
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  Speaker 2: anticipate and plan for invasions and or attacks on other countries.
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  Speaker 2: We even have wargames in which we envision a war
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  Speaker 2: with Canada, and not that that's going to happen, but
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  Speaker 2: that's what these exercises are all about. Making sure that
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  Speaker 2: the country, in our case Rkur country has plans, has
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  Speaker 2: the criteria, has the ability to defend itself and in
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  Speaker 2: some cases invade. So here are the wargames that are
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  Speaker 2: going on right now, and they're really very serious. They're
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  Speaker 2: more than wargames. European countries are preparing for war with Russia.
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  Speaker 2: There's just a war game that was released. A Russian
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  Speaker 2: incursion or a straight out Russian invasion is probably more
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  Speaker 2: likely right now than in decades because of the tensions
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  Speaker 2: Europe has with Trump and particularly over Greenland and Ukraine
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  Speaker 2: and trade and other matters. And here is why wargames
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  Speaker 2: are becoming much more serious and why European countries are
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  Speaker 2: moving far deeper into these wargames. They point out that
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  Speaker 2: Russia has switched to a war economy, focusing its national
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  Speaker 2: resources on a rearma and rearm and rearmament program. That's
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  Speaker 2: the word I'm using military recruitment. We know that's happening,
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  Speaker 2: but military recruitment that goes beyond what they need for Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: Why are they doing that? And here's the quick key question,
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  Speaker 2: and that is is there going to be an invasion
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  Speaker 2: and how soon?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 2: The earlier belief up to these what happened this release
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  Speaker 2: of this war game information is that Russia wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: able to even threaten NATO realistically until twenty twenty nine.
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  Speaker 2: Now there is a consensus and it's growing that this
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  Speaker 2: could happen a whole lot sooner before Europe is in
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  Speaker 2: a position to fight back. The Netherlands Defense Minister said,
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  Speaker 2: our assessment is that Russia will be able to move
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  Speaker 2: large amounts of troops within one year, and we see
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  Speaker 2: their already increasing their strategic inventories, expanding their presence and
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  Speaker 2: assets along the NATO borders. And I'm going to explain
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  Speaker 2: in a few minutes what's going to happen, and what
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  Speaker 2: the NATO countries are going to and not going to
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  Speaker 2: do and throw some history at you. Prudin wants to
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  Speaker 2: resurrect the glories of the Russian Empire, and he said
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  Speaker 2: that over and over again, going way back, and he
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  Speaker 2: wants to bring Russia back to where it was during
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  Speaker 2: the Soviet Union. He was around during the Soviet Union
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  Speaker 2: and he was a KGB spy and he worked for
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  Speaker 2: intelligence or at least, if not a spy, certainly an
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  Speaker 2: official intelligence. And he looked at the Soviet Union, this
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  Speaker 2: is where we are going to be strong, this is
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  Speaker 2: where we are going to go. By the way, that
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  Speaker 2: look goes back to Peter the Great, when there was
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  Speaker 2: a great empire, the great European Empire. And that's what
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  Speaker 2: he wants to do is resurrect those glories. And he
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  Speaker 2: wants to bring back into the fold the Soviet Union,
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  Speaker 2: the old Soviet Union, and now Russia. He wants to
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  Speaker 2: bring back the Baltic nations, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia obvious obvious targets,
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  Speaker 2: and they became independent countries of course after the fall
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  Speaker 2: of communism, and those countries Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia for instance,
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  Speaker 2: have been members of the European Union and NATO for
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  Speaker 2: two decades, knowing that Russia has designs on Swedish, Finnish,
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  Speaker 2: Danish islands and the Baltic Sea parts of Poland.
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  Speaker 1: And how close.
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  Speaker 2: Are is Russia to invading? Well, as I said before,
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  Speaker 2: they have assets lined up at the borders. They've switched
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  Speaker 2: to a war econ bringing in more soldiers than they
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  Speaker 2: would need for an invasion or continuing the war with Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: And here's the way it's going to work, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: much like it did in Crimea and in the Ukraine,
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  Speaker 2: Russia is going to use the pretext of a humanitarian
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  Speaker 2: crisis and they are there then to rescue the Russian
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  Speaker 2: speaking people from the discrimination and the attacks of these
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  Speaker 2: governments Ukraine for example. And so what happens when Russia
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  Speaker 2: invaded Ukraine? No boots on the ground. NATO countries didn't
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  Speaker 2: fight Russia. I mean, they loaded Ukraine with weaponry, but
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  Speaker 2: that was it. Why did not Russia fight back or
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  Speaker 2: invade right backer come to the aid of Ukraine militarily? Well,
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  Speaker 2: because there's Article five of NATO, attack on one country
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  Speaker 2: is an attack on all countries. Ukraine is not part
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  Speaker 2: of NATO. However, virtually every other country that is closer
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  Speaker 2: surrounds Russia is NATO and have been for twenty years
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  Speaker 2: most of them. So Russia is looking at NATO to fight.
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  Speaker 1: Now. Is NATO really going to come back and fight.
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  Speaker 2: Not a chance, because Russia is a bunch of panty
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  Speaker 2: waste and Russia and excuse me, NATO countries are a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of pantywytes, and there's no way they're going to
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  Speaker 2: actually fight. Go back to nineteen thirty eight with Hitler
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  Speaker 2: and Czechoslovakia. The Allies just caved instantly in giving up
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  Speaker 2: the major part of Czechoslovakia. Just stabbed Czechoslovakia in the back.
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  Speaker 2: So let's say one of these NATO countries gets invaded
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  Speaker 2: for quote humanitarian purposes. You think the rest of NATO
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  Speaker 2: is going to start fighting Russia putting boots on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: Not a chance.
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  Speaker 2: They're not going to go to war because they just
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  Speaker 2: no one wants to go to war except Putin. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: Putin's got the balls to do it. Look at what
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  Speaker 2: he did Ukraine. Now he says he has absolutely no ideas,
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  Speaker 2: no compunction, or he has absolutely no desire to attack
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  Speaker 2: those countries.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: He said the same thing about Ukraine just before he
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  Speaker 2: invented Ukraine. I have no desire to attack Ukraine, and
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  Speaker 2: as he was going in, he still had no desire
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  Speaker 2: to attack Ukraine as he was sending in troops. So
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Russia is I don't think the NATO
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  Speaker 2: countries are going to react militarily. And the shame of
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  Speaker 2: it is Russia is really in no position to do
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  Speaker 2: much about it. When you look at Russia versus NATO,
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  Speaker 2: NATO is all of Europe and the United States.
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  Speaker 1: How does Russia fight that?
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  Speaker 2: If the NATO country trees get into a war, or
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  Speaker 2: if not a war, a full out war, certainly a
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  Speaker 2: let's say, a tactical fight. So do I think Russia
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  Speaker 2: has the balls to do it? If anybody does, it
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  Speaker 2: would be putin guessing that NATO countries would not get involved.
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  Speaker 1: Looking back at history saying.
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  Speaker 2: Russia Germany stood up to Europe, Russia, I Russia, I
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  Speaker 2: Russia putin, will stand up to NATO, and NATO's probably
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  Speaker 2: going a cave.
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  Speaker 1: That's the way I view it.
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  Speaker 2: A bunch of horses, Europeans, a French, you know, bunch
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  Speaker 2: of surrender monkeys. Okay, Gary and Shannon coming up next,
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  Speaker 2: and then we're back again tomorrow morning with a wake
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  Speaker 2: up call Will and Amy, and then Neil and I
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  Speaker 2: jump in, and then there's Cono and An and Kono's
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  Speaker 2: the only one that laughs at my stuff. So Kono,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: contrary to what everybody else is looking at, you're going
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: to be here next week.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: But he's drunk. This is KFI on Monday. That's the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: whole point.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I'm giving you an entire week to start laughing, Oh
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: at my bad jokes?
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