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NLCS Game 2 preview, Ardaya joins, Cy Snell, CRAZY double play! · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: It's a foul territory presented by a fox one. Let's go. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we got tod Father joining us in just a minute.
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  Speaker 2: No, I want to show.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask him for permission, tod Father, before you
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  Speaker 1: come back up here. Can we show the hard work
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  Speaker 1: that you're doing to tape up the desk? He said? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: he said, yes, so we can. We can show too,
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  Speaker 1: shot to see hod Father is under the desk. There
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  Speaker 1: he is, okay, doing doing the loads work, working on
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  Speaker 1: taping things up under the desk to make it really pretty,
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  Speaker 1: so that if you're creepy and you look at us
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  Speaker 1: under the desk, you will only see Todd Father's shoes
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  Speaker 1: and his pants and not some wires.
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  Speaker 3: Great job, Tom, great job. He's like the kid. He's
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  Speaker 3: like the kid under the adults table at Thanksgiving or
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  Speaker 3: the dog under the table at Thanksgiving. But either way
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  Speaker 3: you're you're definitely in in his comfort zone.
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  Speaker 1: For me, I think it was important to show that
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  Speaker 1: Todd Father is a dad who fixes things, just like
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  Speaker 1: many of you out there who might be watching or listening,
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  Speaker 1: or a mom or a kid. Maybe your parents suck
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  Speaker 1: at doing that stuff and you're a kid and you're
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  Speaker 1: stuck with all of that. Todd father is a man
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  Speaker 1: of people. He very capable of taping things to desks,
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  Speaker 1: among many other traits. It's like how Cameo has the
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  Speaker 1: sending a message to someone. Maybe there should be something
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  Speaker 1: where you can actually hire your favorite celebrity to come
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  Speaker 1: over and help fix the house and you guys spend
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  Speaker 1: some time together. It would be much more costly. We
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  Speaker 1: can take some time up. But maybe that's the thing. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: there he is, there is You can't hear him yet,
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  Speaker 1: but he's coming up. We're we can second way, first minute, we.
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  Speaker 3: Can hear him.
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  Speaker 1: Are you productive?
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  Speaker 3: We can hear Todd, he just can't hear us. Now
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  Speaker 3: he's got like we can definitely, Like you can play
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  Speaker 3: pickle ball with your favorite celebrity. Now Todd is going
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  Speaker 3: to do a He's going to come to your house
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  Speaker 3: and he's going to fix things for you. If he's
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  Speaker 3: a big duct tapeman, he will duct tape.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He brought two varieties today, Ana, if you want to
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  Speaker 1: show them off. Two varieties today, black and white tape.
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  Speaker 1: One's a little thicker, one's a little more pliable.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, Okay, we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, for the Loser Home Depot sponsorship coming up next month.
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  Speaker 1: But we've got a sponsor to hit and we have
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  Speaker 1: a series to hit. We did a postgame show last
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  Speaker 1: night on the Blue Jays losing again to the Mariners.
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  Speaker 1: Miners looking great heading back to Seattle. So we did
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  Speaker 1: nice thirty minutes on that. We're going to talk more
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  Speaker 1: about that series coming up, but we are going to
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  Speaker 1: start with the NLCS. Let's charge the man presented by
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  Speaker 1: lids charge whoa what happened in Game one A lot?
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  Speaker 1: But I think we should start Blake snow You faced
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  Speaker 1: Blake's now right.
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  Speaker 4: Never liked facing him. He's eight innings, ten ks.
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  Speaker 1: Some people didn't want to see him out.
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  Speaker 2: Of the game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah no, And you know what, I think back to
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  Speaker 4: that time where they took him out when he was
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  Speaker 4: with the Rais, when they took him out, I forget
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  Speaker 4: what ending, fifth, sixth inning, whatever it was, and he
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  Speaker 4: was cruising, man, and you let this guy eat. I
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  Speaker 4: think he had one hundred and thirteen pitches. He was
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  Speaker 4: dominant this whole time. And he's a guy that now
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden review the Dodgers you can lean on,
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  Speaker 4: and that is huge. There's been a lot of moving
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  Speaker 4: parts with this Dodger team. You know, seems like they
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  Speaker 4: have a new closer now in Suzaki. It seems like
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  Speaker 4: they're clicking on all cylinders. There's a mistake on the field.
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  Speaker 4: They had bases loaded, and we'll get into that, and
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  Speaker 4: they didn't score a run and now all of a
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  Speaker 4: sudden they win a two to one ball game. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it was absolutely amazing performance by him. He's like a
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  Speaker 4: fine wine. I'm telling you right now, you just want
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  Speaker 4: to sip on for forty years to come.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It just one of those moments where you look at
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  Speaker 4: a veteran pitcher now a veteran guy they call him,
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  Speaker 4: and he goes out there and crushes makes us veteran
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  Speaker 4: ex players feel pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's efficient, He's much more efficient now and
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  Speaker 1: he knows he's got the stuff to pull this off.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, just for the history context, and I
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  Speaker 1: know most of you know about this, but twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: five and a third scoreless dominant innings in Game six
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  Speaker 1: of the World Series, Kevin Cash to the mound doesn't
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  Speaker 1: want him to see Mookie Betts again. Is now current teammate,
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  Speaker 1: and the rest is history in the Dodgers favor. This
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  Speaker 1: time they have him on their side, crats And still,
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  Speaker 1: despite all of that, Milwaukee could have.
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  Speaker 2: Won this game.
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  Speaker 1: Bryce to red take one for the team. If that
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  Speaker 1: pitch is coming at you, what do you do me?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not hitting forth, I'm not the team's not relying
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  Speaker 3: on me to swing the bat and drive those runs in.
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  Speaker 3: That John's hit me right in the back knee and
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  Speaker 3: I'm limping all the way to first base as soon
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  Speaker 3: as I got two strikes on me. Anything close, I
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  Speaker 3: am one. If it's anything close away from me, I'm swinging.
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  Speaker 3: Is anything close to me that John's hitting me, I'm
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  Speaker 3: taking it. But look, it's got to be a reaction
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  Speaker 3: in the moment, like you can't you can't fault him.
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  Speaker 3: And it only would have tied the game, It wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: have it wouldn't have won them the game.
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  Speaker 4: I still I want to go back to that point
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  Speaker 4: that Jimmy Rollins right right done posted Jimmy Rowins post
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  Speaker 4: game was about Bryce ter Ran getting out of the
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  Speaker 4: way of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Could have been a potential tying game.
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  Speaker 4: The end quotes, I played with a guy that definitely
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  Speaker 4: would have for sure let that hit him. End quotes
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  Speaker 4: from Jimmy Rollins. I mean, listen, it is I think
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  Speaker 4: you're spot on cratzy. It's an instinctual reaction. It was
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  Speaker 4: a breaking pitch that went down and then you're first
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  Speaker 4: looking out over the plate and you get your foot down.
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  Speaker 4: Next thing you know it's coming at you. Your first
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  Speaker 4: instinct is to get out of the way. There's then
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  Speaker 4: there is there's a couple guys. I mean, Brandon Geyer.
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  Speaker 4: It was one guy that I could think of that
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  Speaker 4: would just not move. But again, this isn't a fastball.
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  Speaker 4: This isn't a fastball, Scott. This is it's a breaking pitch.
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  Speaker 4: So your eyes are going to tell you a different story.
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  Speaker 2: When you see it.
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  Speaker 4: It looks like it maybe it looked like a heater
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  Speaker 4: to him when it came at him, You're like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: let me get out of the way. It's an instinctual reaction.
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  Speaker 4: And you know you can't blame him. Would if you're
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  Speaker 4: a Brewers player or teammate. Honestly, you wanted to hit him,
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  Speaker 4: But at the same token, you know it's a reaction.
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  Speaker 4: You can't blame the guy for getting out of the way.
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  Speaker 4: You wish he didn't, though, do.
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  Speaker 1: You remember Martin Maldonado did this where he would basically
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  Speaker 1: stand on home plate and take a happy Gilmore hit
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  Speaker 1: see the body. He did it in the postseason. He's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I can't hit any more. I'm in the nine spot,
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  Speaker 1: so if this thing hits me, then great. So do
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  Speaker 1: you think Bryce Terrang feels bad or this is just
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  Speaker 1: what a major league player does instinct wise, you're not
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  Speaker 1: thinking you're up at the plate, biggest moment of your career.
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  Speaker 3: If you come.
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  Speaker 1: Through, What do I do if the pitch is about
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  Speaker 1: hit me?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: No, I I if they're thinking about that right now
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  Speaker 4: because they lost the game. Because of that, they got
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  Speaker 4: they got bigger problems, so no chance. I think he
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  Speaker 4: woke up fine this morning, probably upset they didn't get
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  Speaker 4: the job done. He didn't get the job done. But
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  Speaker 4: other than that move on.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think he thought about it right afterwards.
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  Speaker 3: You saw he saw the pitch him get out of
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  Speaker 3: the way of it, which, by the way, he only
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  Speaker 3: has two hip by pitches this year, so he's not
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  Speaker 3: a dude that hangs in there and is like okay,
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  Speaker 3: like some guys just never moved. But he saw him.
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  Speaker 3: He was like and he kind of like as he
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  Speaker 3: stepped out, he's like, oh yeah, okay, and maybe it affected.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, hey, I gotta get this job done. I
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  Speaker 3: am not letting this ball get by me because he
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  Speaker 3: swung at one that was well out of the zone.
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  Speaker 3: Right absolutely why. That's why Dave Roberts was thinking, it's
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  Speaker 3: fifty to fifty. I'm sending Blake Snell out with one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and three pitches. I'll be honest. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: why he didn't. I know Dave Roberts said, hey, you
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  Speaker 3: know Rokie's been good. Uh, you know, we do need
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  Speaker 3: be on regular rest. Blake Snell. I've said this for years.
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  Speaker 3: Look at the numbers for Blake Snell. The third time
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  Speaker 3: through means nothing to him. He actually was getting better
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  Speaker 3: in his career. He gets better, and that's because he
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  Speaker 3: has confidence to be able to throw all of his
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  Speaker 3: pitches for strikes. For him to have no walks last
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  Speaker 3: night shows me that I would have continued to go
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  Speaker 3: at him. I know if it was one it was
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  Speaker 3: one nothing game. No, I don't put him back out
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  Speaker 3: there because I think Roki has better stuff to nothing. Sorry,
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  Speaker 3: they haven't put any good at bats together. The only
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  Speaker 3: balls they put in play were like two strikeouts. You're like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, at least I got I didn't strike out
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  Speaker 3: like that was a that was a plus. When guys
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  Speaker 3: would weekly put it in play, it's like, well, at
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  Speaker 3: least it's not punch out. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Often it would come early in an ab which is
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  Speaker 1: why he got to the ninth inning with what was
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  Speaker 1: the final pitch con for him, one O three.
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  Speaker 2: No, I was off by ten.
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  Speaker 1: One O three. So that's my thing is if you're
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  Speaker 1: managing the Dodgers, as long as Blake says he feels okay,
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  Speaker 1: which I'm sure he did, let him go keep eating, right,
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  Speaker 1: this is the time where you build up to this
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  Speaker 1: to this point, and he signed with you for years,
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  Speaker 1: like there's nothing to worry about here, go eat.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, I was on a plane flying home
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  Speaker 4: when that was going. I felt like it was one
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  Speaker 4: in the morning from Vegas back home. So sorry about
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  Speaker 4: the one O three is the one thirteenth, and let
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  Speaker 4: me let him eat. Man, let him go out.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people think one O three is one
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  Speaker 1: thirteen in Vegas.
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  Speaker 4: Let him go out and give him another out if
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't get the first guy out. Then we start
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  Speaker 4: talking a little bit, you know, but it's out of
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  Speaker 4: the order.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. True.
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  Speaker 3: And and if you do that, you keep Jake Bowers
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  Speaker 3: on the bench. Jake Bowers has hit some big postseason
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  Speaker 3: clutch hits. Homer last year. Now this year he had
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  Speaker 3: a double. Like, you keep that same lineup in. They're
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  Speaker 3: not pinch hitting anybody that wasn't already in the lineup.
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  Speaker 3: They have their lineup out there. And like Todd said,
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  Speaker 3: one guy gets on. Okay, appreciate your night. Now we
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  Speaker 3: still got Rokie Cratty.
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask you this. That double he hit the
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  Speaker 4: center field right in the last ny.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember m yeah, over over.
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  Speaker 4: What Why weren't they playing no doubles there? Like, why
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  Speaker 4: wasn't he further back?
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  Speaker 3: Zero idea?
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  Speaker 4: All right, That's why I thought I wanted to make
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  Speaker 4: sure I wasn't losing it. I was watching on the
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  Speaker 4: plane and I'm watching it was going kind of buffering
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  Speaker 4: in and out, and I see the ball drop and
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god. I mean, if you're playing
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  Speaker 4: no doubles, it's a running catch going into the wall
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  Speaker 4: in my opinion, right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean not even going I think he stops before
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  Speaker 3: because I think it landed at the edge of the
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  Speaker 3: warning track. I'd have to go see it again because
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  Speaker 3: it bounced over like that's the matter.
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  Speaker 2: Huge.
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  Speaker 3: It seemed weird to me. It seemed weird to me
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  Speaker 3: because it was like they were playing him shallow pool
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  Speaker 3: and in that case, you already have a run around first.
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  Speaker 3: That run means nothing. Keep everything in front. I don't
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  Speaker 3: care if that go first to home on a single
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  Speaker 3: to center because you're so deep. Let him score like
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  Speaker 3: you keep him at first base.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Mookie Betts to the rescue is another
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  Speaker 1: RBI walk that gives them the insurance run. We're talking
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  Speaker 1: about things that went wrong. Oh, we should have let
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  Speaker 1: Snell pitch another inning, bullpen showed a crack pahes should
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  Speaker 1: have been playing further back, and yet they won the game. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: there's one other issue too, the craziest double play in
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  Speaker 1: postseason history.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't see it live, so I'm like so upset
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  Speaker 4: about I just remember getting some links on my phone,
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  Speaker 4: you know, going in and out of service, and I
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  Speaker 4: couldn't there. But oh my god, I have never seen
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  Speaker 4: somebody not score from dead center field against the wall,
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  Speaker 4: bounce off the wall to catch and the runner at
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  Speaker 4: third didn't score? Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: My god? And who was a ta oscar at third base?
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  Speaker 4: Listen at the end of the day, great player, he's
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  Speaker 4: jogged out a couple of balls that we've seen. He's
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  Speaker 4: jogged to a couple of balls in the outfield like
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  Speaker 4: these got it? In these type of games, you gotta
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  Speaker 4: be better. I mean, that could have been huge a
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  Speaker 4: double play.
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  Speaker 2: What was it?
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  Speaker 4: An eight six two one assisted Cratzy as you said
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  Speaker 4: earlier in our meetings today, eight six two one assisted.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that's probably ever happened in baseball. I
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  Speaker 4: would love to call alias up and see, but to
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  Speaker 4: not score from that, and you're a fast runner like
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  Speaker 4: I could see CRATSI er eye not making it there.
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  Speaker 2: But you gotta know the rules, Scott.
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  Speaker 4: Once it hits the glove and you already go tag
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  Speaker 4: up and go even if he catches it.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I I feel like he was cooking.
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  Speaker 1: Home average ish. But it doesn't matter. I mean, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: any big leaguer get home he was.
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  Speaker 2: He was cooking home. He looked like he was going
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  Speaker 2: one hundred miles an hour.
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  Speaker 3: He was running for his life. That's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what the funny thing about the whole
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  Speaker 2: thing was, who was the on duck batter?
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, after monthsy k, he's kei K. He's
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  Speaker 4: yelling to the dugout it's a home run. It's a
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  Speaker 4: home run.
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  Speaker 2: He saying the review.
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  Speaker 4: He had no clue either, So everybody was it was
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  Speaker 4: just a pile of craziness.
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  Speaker 3: There's so there's so much to unpack with this play.
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  Speaker 3: Also the fact that if they had gone back and
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  Speaker 3: reviewed it, Max Munsey could have been called out for
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  Speaker 3: passing the runner at first, because if you watched the
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  Speaker 3: end of the play, Max has gone around first, and
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  Speaker 3: then as I'm not sure who was coming back to first,
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  Speaker 3: maybe Freddy because Will Smith went back to second. I
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  Speaker 3: doubt it was Freddy, but whoever it was was coming
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  Speaker 3: back to first, and Max was still in fair territory.
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  Speaker 3: So as soon as Freddy hits first as a live runner, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Batter's out for passing passing the runner in front. So
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  Speaker 3: technically there could have been a third out that would
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  Speaker 3: have negated everything. But there's like nobody will ever get
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  Speaker 3: thrown out from from center field, tagging up like that's
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  Speaker 3: just an auto easy tag up. You joked about it
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  Speaker 3: like I today wouldn't get thrown out if they started
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  Speaker 3: with the ball at the same spot as south Freelick
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  Speaker 3: and he throws it. As soon as he throws it,
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  Speaker 3: I start running safe. There's no way. But because ta
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  Speaker 3: Oscar went two steps off after he saw the juggle
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  Speaker 3: and he thought he needed to go back, his momentum stopped,
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  Speaker 3: went back to the bag, stopped again. And the biggest
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  Speaker 3: thing for me credit to William Contreras. As much as
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  Speaker 3: like some people could be like, oh, William's kind of
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  Speaker 3: out there for himself, he's kind of flashy, emotional. He
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  Speaker 3: knew this play was a force out. If he goes
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  Speaker 3: to tag him at home safe, most guys are like
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: even KEK, KEYK thought no, no, no, no, you got
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: checked that, you got checked that it wasn't a catch.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: You're right, Keyk. It wasn't a catch. That ball was
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: That ball's a force out at home And so good
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: for William Contraras to stretch like it's a force out.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I want to make a big explanation about defense.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: First off, this isn't a play you work on in
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: the offseason. You work on double cuts, you work on
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: throwing a basis that guys are leading towards. You think
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: about Freelick, first off, he gets the ball quickly, doesn't hesitate.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: If there's a slight hesitation, better safe, throws it in
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: firm throw. Perfect throw as a shortstop, Ortiz as a shortstop.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: Once you see that happen, you're you're moving, You're looking.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: Let me see where the runners are because that ball
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: is already in motion. Once you see the ball in motion,
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: knowing all right, that ball gonna come to me, give
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: a quick peek boom, catch throw. It's everything that happened
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: there and and not and the force out at home.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: You got to give the defense credit there. I mean,
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: that was absolutely phenomenal play. It worked out in their favor.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: They still lost the game, but imagine they ended up winning,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: losing three to two there and.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: They came back.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: You know, it's just the game within the game, Cratzy,
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: and you can follow up on this, but every moment
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: of that play was meticulous and was perfection be an athlete.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: That's what I tell my kids.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: And what you said about like a lot of kids,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: is the kids listening to this. What Todd was saying
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: is perfect when you're the cutoff man or girl. It's
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: so you don't have to just stand there like, throw
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: me the ball, throw it to me. Here we go. Yes,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: you have to get your feet in the right position,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: but you can look away from the play to see
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: where the runner is and then catch the ball to
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: throw it like. There's so many aspects of it that
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: or Joey Ortiz did an incredible job and made a
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: pinpoint throw. He didn't try to bounce it. He made
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: the throw all the way in the air. It was
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: it was just an It was an awesome play. And
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I'm seeing too many of these things happen to the Dodgers,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: which also shows me how freaking talented they are, because
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: they're coughing some things up. They're not doing some great things.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: There's some questionable, you know, questionable manager moves. They have
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: holes in their team, and yet they're up one to
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: zero and yet another National League Championship Series.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: There's no way Joey Ortiz did not look to see
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: where the runners are, because if you're a shortstop, you're
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: coming up when you catch that ball, you're assuming the
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: run around third scored already. If you're not assuming that,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: you are some sort of spectacular ball player. He did
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: not assume he had to have taken a peek back
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: just to make sure and see where the runners were.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: He caught it on a nose and through it. You
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: can't say enough about the defensive play. What is going
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: to make you get to the championship in the World Series?
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Plays like that?
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: How come Tao didn't listen to his third base coach?
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Do you know hard to hear for one?
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, no, that's not the third base coaches called it all.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: No, I mean no, but he's telling them like if
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: you're confused and you're looking at him. Dino also knew
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: what he was doing. He's like, go, what are you doing?
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but you if you're I'll try and dumbste like,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: you have to know what to do in that situation.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: You can't rely on somebody's voice, you know what I mean?
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Even if there's it's like him and I had him
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: coaching a high school game.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna hear dog get back run. Yeah, you're
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: gonna hear that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: But your mind is telling you one thing and your
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: mind's listening to another. Like it's you're you're racing. It's
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: it's hard but you should know what you're doing.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just from the fan perspective, I'm like, did he
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: get instructed differently? Like what happened?
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Why is it so confusing? Like regardless of what the
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: result of the play is either way, Like if you're
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: not knowing, just on the damn bag and then.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Run home not understand?
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah what just trying to get his wheels were his
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: legs were moving and his brains were telling him something else,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, we.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Saw it last serious, That's how the Dodgers won. Oryan
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Kirkeran knows that ball doesn't go home there, he knows
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: he needs to throw it the first he had a
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: brain fart. I hope Tao knows that he doesn't need
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: to retag up after a bobbled ball. But sometimes your
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: brain's like, oh wait what And just that little got
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: the out at the plate.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Right, the moment caught him. So after all of that, right,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers still won the game two to one. Oh
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: and shoe O Tani is not out of his slump now.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: He had some Yeah, I mean he had a key
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: intentional walk right. His presence alone is big, and I
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: do think that his first a b crats set a tempo,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: he worked a nice walk, nice plate appearance there, so
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the Phillies had dominant left hand pitch to handle him.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Same thing with Freddie Freeman. I think sixteen out of
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the twenty a b's for Freeman in the last round.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: We're against left handed pitching, and oh, look at Freddy
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: coming through with a home run that's still in the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: air hang time wise against the right handed pitchers. So, man,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: this team looks really good despite what we're talking about.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Right Like, things did not go their way and they
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: still want a two to one game.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: It seems like every team Cratty's played four in the
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: playoffs and now is not finding the way to win
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: games anymore.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: They don't want any teams in the chest Yankees Brewers.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna have I'm gonna have one in the I'm
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: gonna have one in the Championship. So that's it. We
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: have one in the World Series. Who Mariners?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Oh you played for the Mariners. I mean, I know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I didn't know. I didn't know. I don't know.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: He's been in their org.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Fred's and Freddy. I know, we got to go Freddy's
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: home run first RBI. So they've gotten through these two
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: series with already having one RBI and show hey being
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: non existent.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: That's that's really good for them.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a problem for a good world exactly. Hey,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Andy mcalin talked about this. Adamccalvey, who covers The Brewis,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: talks about this all the time too. Pat Murphy declines
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: to shake player hands during pregame introductions in the playoffs,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: so now some of the players smack him in the chest.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I saw others that just ignore him. He is a hoot,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: He's hilarious.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: I'm like going off and something different. I've always thought
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: like after like the series, they should all shake hands,
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: like afterwards, like hockey.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, what after the series or after
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: each game?
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: No, not after not after each game, but after the series,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: after the series. Hey, you know you boys, tell you
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: what a series? You know what I mean, great job,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: good luck, and then move on.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: To me, I feel like that's a little maybe if much,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man Like maybe it's backlash, But I
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: feel like I'd love what they're doing with Pat though.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: That's pretty cool. He seems like a happy, gold lucky
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: deal with everything he does. But yeah, after the series,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: give some love, man, it's a hard fought battle.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Man. We'll see you next year.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Good luck, go get him and handshakes. Crafts for the
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: umpires too.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Just not the pod trase just right right?
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, too soon for the padres. But now, this is
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: one of the things that I thought when Pat got
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: the job, was he going to have to change as
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: a manager. This is the kind of little stuff he's
• 23:34
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  Speaker 1: joining us right now, covering the Dodgers here during their
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: quest for back to back World Series titles, and they
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: take down the Brewers in Game one of the NLCS,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: So let's spen at forward to game two. Faby On,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, and how do you think the
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Dodgers line up for this game too? Do you like
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the way that Dave Roberts and the front office lined
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: up the rotation for this series or are you on
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the side with some Dodger fans that feel as if
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Ya Momoto has had trouble against the Brewers and they
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: should have gone in a different direction.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: I think ultimately he came down to who you wanted
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: to have start twice this series between Ylmoto and Otani
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: and what that kind of allows everyone else to do. Otani,
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: I think they would have been able to do twice
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: in a series, but that probably would have required him
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: pitching games two in game seven. Yal motor, you can
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: get away with games two in game six, so I
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: think honestly became a math problem at that point. I
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: think Yo Motor makes a lot of sense, and obviously
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: it had to blow up Start Milwaukee this year, but
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: has earned the right to sort of be in the
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: sort of spot with how he pitched this season overall,
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: and I don't think you can really go wrong when
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: he comes to those four guys.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Do you think part of the show Hey thing was
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: him being a visitor and how that changes his warm
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: up routine? You know, and obviously the pitcher has to
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: be in in time before the other before your team's hitting,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: but Shohey needs to be in in extra time. Do
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: you think part of that went into it? Because Doc said, no,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: it has nothing to do with his hitting, which a
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: little I'm a little hesitant to believe that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: I would argue, honestly, that impacts him more when they're
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: at home than on the road, just because he throws
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: that first in. He doesn't get a chance to go
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: into the dugout, catch his breath or anything at all.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: He sort of has to immediately get ready to go hit,
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: at least when he's hitting and the next half inning
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: needs to go pitch. They do give him a little
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: bit more time on the pitch clock. He has a
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: chance to catch his breath a little bit more. And
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: you sort of see that at home especially, but you
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: see that's in both cases at home. On the road,
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: he'll try to end the a bat a little bit
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: sooner offensively when he's pitching, but especially at home when
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: he's sort of you tell there's some fatigue coming off
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: the mound and immediately going in stepping in the batter's box.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: I want to talk a little bit about pitching a
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: little bit. So Zaki came in again. It seems like
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: it's a face to love. I mean, this guy, all
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: of a sudden, it's like the new clubs. He struggled
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: a little bit yesterday, had to get taken out.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: What do you what do you think of him? Like?
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Is this is this like the their guy moving on forward?
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: It seems like this is their closer for the whole
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: rest of the playoffs.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's clearly the guy they trust, and they
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: don't have a lot of those guys right now. But
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: obviously there's still a lot new with this. They're still
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: trying to figure out how he's gonna just all this.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: And he saw that last night, like he had those
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: three innings in the NLDS Game four against the Phillies.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: Obviously he had three days of rest between, but clearly
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: there was some sort of carryover. In fact, the velocity
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: was down, the command was off, and clearly there was
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: it looked like some signs of fatigue. Will Smith even
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: said he looked a little tired out there. Uh, this
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: is all still so new. They're all trying to figure
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: out how this all works. And they can't go through
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: this World Series run if they will repeat, if he's
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: pitching in every single win, like, they have to find
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: other ways to still get through games. He's still the
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: guy they trust the most, but they have to have
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: other guys step up in that bullpen.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Where do you see that happening? Because Vesia has shown
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: in his little in his small outing, and Blake Trynon
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: has shown they're not the guys to get it done.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Are we gonna see Robleski getting a save? Is Emmett.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: She isn't gonna get a save if if Yamamoto goes
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: eight tonight.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think she's the name you sort of look to.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: That's the guy that they see as possibly They saw
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: him as this possible secret weapon in this October run
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: before Rookie Psaki really kind of took advantage of this
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: opportunity and really jumped and took it. But she is
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: still a guy that really high on. Obviously he's given
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: up a few runs over the course of this series,
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: but that's a guy that they really like to bet on.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: If there's another lefty besides Vessia that they trust, I
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: would say it's Jack Dryer actually a little bit before
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: Justin Robleski, just because of how steady he's been all
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: season long. But yeah, I think that it's gonna be
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: either those two guys. It's got to be Alex Vesi
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: at some point. They still do trust him and Blake
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: trying to You saw it. Obviously, it has not been
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: a good season for him. It was a terrible September
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: for him, but Dave Roberts still went him in that
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: spot last night and he came through. So I think
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: they're still gonna keep having him opportunities to kind of
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: show that their faith in him is worth it. But yeah,
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be interesting to see how they managed the
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: ninth and he's going.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Forward, Bobby, And do you feel like if we went
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: back a year, the Dodgers have only won that as
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: people were saying the COVID World Series, they haven't been
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: able to get it done. In the length of the series.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: There was a lot of like, I don't know, it's
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: a good team, but are they able to do it
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: to now where we are they're one to zero in
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: the NLCS, like this is the best team. They're just unbelievable.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Everything they do, they're so good. Do you think our
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: view of them right now is jaded or are they
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: really this good and pretty much unstoppable.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't say they're unstoppable because we talked about the bullpen,
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: like that's obviously something that's gonna come kind of be
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: an issue throughout here. But I do think that there
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: is something to what they were able to tap into
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: last October, the fact that this is a lot of
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: the same group. They understood what it takes and I
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: think they kind of knew, especially if you get out
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: of the short series. Once these series gets stretched out,
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: it comes down to, like, who's the more talented team.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: I think more often than not, it's gonna be the Dodgers,
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: and I think they kind of understand that they can
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: sort of break down teams over the course of a
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: longer series, and there's a confidence that comes with that.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: Like they I think they are playing with a lot
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: of confidence that came from winning the World Series last year.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: In the way that they did it. I think there
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: was something too in twenty one they ran out of
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: gas twenty two, twenty three, you start to hear like, oh,
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: they can't really finish it off in a full season.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: You start to.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: Believe that or buying into that a little bit, and
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: that gets in your head a little bit. I think
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: they are past that point now and there's a confidence
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: that there's start playing with October knowing that they've done
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: it before and that they know what it takes to
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: sort of do.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: That, knowing what they've done before.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Freddy Peralta has faced this Dodger team four and two
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: three point twenty nine era in his last and his
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: career starts against the Dodgers. How do you think he
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: fares tonight. I think this is a big opportunity for
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: the Brewers to come through. This is their number one guy.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: How do you think the Dodgers step up against the
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: guy like Freddy Parolta.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think obviously the numbers the par Alta has
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: against the Dodgers are pretty good. I will say that
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: I feel like they see him pretty well. I think
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: even yesterday they only scored the two runs, they probably
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: should have scored six if that ball goes over the
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: fence with Max Muncie earlier in the game. But like
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: they saw the Brewers pretty well, They saw all their
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: top arms pretty well. They hit the ball hard, they
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: had traffick on the bases all but two innings of
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: the nine.
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  Speaker 1: UH.
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  Speaker 5: I think the back quality has been was good yesterday
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: and it was as a chance to be good tonight.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: But Paroltz is obviously a tough guy. If he has UH,
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: if he hasn't an outnywhere he's on me very difficult
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  Speaker 5: for the Dodgers. But I do think that this is
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: a guy that I wouldn't be surprised if the Dodgers
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: how to get out in tonight.
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  Speaker 1: What was your take on the insane double play and
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I know, you get to watch ta Oscar Hernandez all
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: year long. I love him as a person. He's a
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: great interview, he's super clutch. Dodger fans love him to death,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: but he does make these mental gafs somewhat frequently.
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  Speaker 5: Would you agree, Yeah, I think that's something that even
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: within the Dodgers has been a thing that they've kind
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: of talked about, and that's why they sat him for
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: a couple of games in September where they just needed
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: to kind of lock in. And I don't know if
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: even Yesterda it was necessarily a lock in situation. I
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: think he was one of those. It was such a
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: weird play. It wasn't clear to me in the press
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: box that like he had caught it or that it
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: hit off the wall. I can only imagine for ta
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: Oscar at third base. But I will say, like the
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: Dodgers ran into this sort of similar play in May
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: against the Mets, where I think Hayron Taylor was colliding
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: with Juan Soto. He bobbled the ball, but they knew
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: that as soon as the ball hits glove, you can
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: go that situation where Tayoscar Andaz did go tag up
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: and immediately break when Glove made contact, but clearly he
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: had some sort of brain fart there in that spot,
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: goes back to try to tag up again at third base,
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: and that hesitation really is what cost the Dodgers to run. Obviously,
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: there still would be a double player in that play
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: just because the other guys that were treated to the bases,
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: But the Dodgers definitely should have come out of that spot.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: But at least one run.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: And all that happens and they still win the game,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: many thanks to Blake Snell. And everyone thinks it's unfair
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: what the Dodgers do, but they're not the only team
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: that could have signed Blake Snell. First off, any team
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: can sign a pitcher for what in the mid hundreds,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: what's his current deal? And I know there's a lot
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: of deferrals in there too, but in the middle of
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: five years, five years, one two with deferrals that I
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: think makes it more like in the one fifties or
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: one sixties. First off, any team can do one fifties
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: one sixties on a long term contract. But there are
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: other starters that were signed, and it seems like the
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Dodgers made the right call on this one, even though
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: he did miss time during the season. He looks like
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: one of the best pitchers on the planet frequently. I
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: mean he's won two cy Young Awards and in big moments.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Now in the postseason, he looks like someone who is
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: more efficient, not walking guys and just showing off his stuff.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: What are you seeing from him? And do you feel
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: like the Dodgers will take on too much of the Oh,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: they can just buy everyone if they end up winning
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: this series and getting to another World Series. I'll just
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: use the example like Max Frida a great year for
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the Yankees, but get a clunker in that Toronto series.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: We haven't seen that from Blake Snell. So Dodgers made
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: the right call so far in the postseason.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think it was Snell specifically, Like this
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: past offseason he did say he knew right away he
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: kind of wanted to be in LA But that doesn't
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: excuse the previous offseason when he was around and didn't
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: signed to the spring training and he didn't sign with
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: the Dodgers and every team could have signed him and they didn't.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I think what we're seeing out of Snell
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: is like this is the guy that he always thought
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: he was where he has four incredible pitches that he
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: knows how to use, that he can locate where he
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: wants to. And yes, he has had a history of
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: walking guys. He has had a history of nibbling, and
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: that's part of why he's so successful, his ability to
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: kind of avoid the big swing, and he's really good
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: at that. He's really good at locating pitches an inch
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: or two off the plate and getting guys to swing
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: at them. I think what he's learned and talked about
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: with maturity is all the different ways, all the different
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: hacks he can find to do that and remain efficient.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: And I think you saw that yesterday where yeah, he
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: was racking up the strikeouts, but he's still I think
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: he was at seventy seven pitches after seven, like after
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: seven innings, actually at six innings, ninety one pitches after
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: seven innings, one hundred and three pitches after eight, Like
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: his pitch count was low enough for Dave Roberts even
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: consider him in the ninth inn And this is a
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: situation where this is the guy who had only pitched
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: into the eighth inning. This was the sixth time that
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: he's crazed on that. But obviously he's clearly shown that
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: development over the course of this season, knowing how to
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: get quick outs when he needs to, and honestly, a
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: team like the Brewers where they make so much contact
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: that kind of played into his favor where he was
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: a little deeper into a start and understand like, I
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: get soft contact if I keep throwing change ups here,
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: and that's basically his recipe to success last night.
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  Speaker 3: Can you evaluate how Doc Roberts has managed these games,
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: and then I'll and I have a follow up based
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: on what you say.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: I think he's doesn't know what he has back in
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: the bullpen. I think that is influencing a lot. But
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: also he's trying to cling to what he can in
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: that bullpen in hopes that he could find enough pieces
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: to make this group come together. I think he has
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: the developed enough trusts that quickly in Rookie Sasaki that
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: he thought Rookie Staki was the best option than ninth Inning,
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: which you can quibble with that yes or no. But
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: and you could argue that yes, you want Blake Snell
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: to go batter to better at that point, but then
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: that might take Rookie Saki off the table because they've
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: been really cautious. They want him to only come into
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: clean innings, or at least he's only done that so far,
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: so all of a sudden that you're changing your options
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: in case Snell doesn't have it, the ninth inning change
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: a little bit. So I think having a lack of
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: reliable alternatives has kind of forced him into situations that
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: I don't know if he makes these same calls last October.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: I mean he definitely doesn't if he has last year's bullpen.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: So you're seeing a different strategy for how he's managed
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: a pitching staff definitely compared to where it was last year.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: So Charlie Manuel used to always say, you know, anytime
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: he get his thousands win or five hundred winning, well,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: he's a it's because I got good players. Do you
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: feel like he has enough good players in that bullpen
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: that he really isn't gonna make a bad choice and
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: yet he continues to go with the guys that got
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: him the ring that he had before or do you
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: feel like he is able to view what is working
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: and get them out of there soon enough like last
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: night with Rokie.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I do think there's like a balance there. I
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: think one thing he talked a lot about last October
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: going into the last October he's like he's learned that
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: he's gonna go with the guys he trusts, and I
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: think that became very clear last October who he trusted,
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: and Blake Trianon was the top of that list. I
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: think there's something too that where he's going to keep
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: trusting trying in the hottest of spots just because he
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: knows that whether he gets hit or not, like it's
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: not gonna because the moment speeds up on him. But
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: also I think do you think that his ability to
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: trust Roki Saki so quickly is kind of a testament
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: not just like the like where the bullpen is at
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: right now, but also his ability to kind of adapt
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: and just sort of see what is working and what
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: is not and understanding that so that if in cases
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: or maybe like you're trying to you're trying to scramble
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: at some certain points, especially with the three batter minimum,
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: where even if a guy doesn't have it, you're kind
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: of stuck with him in that spot for at least
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: a couple of hitters, especially if you're trying to get
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: someone up, and if it's someone like broke you sock
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: you needs a little bit more time, then all of
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: a sudden. You have made that decision a little bit sooner,
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: so it's definitely a balancing app for him.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Hey, great insight, and we appreciate the time during busy
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: time for you covering this series, Bobby, And thanks for
• 40:37
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• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Game two? All right, thanks guys, go ahead say it,
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  Speaker 3: The show went so fast. The show went so fast.
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  Speaker 3: There was a lot of good a lot of good chatter.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's because Todd was Todd was under.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, lids, we see.
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  Speaker 4: I think I got my lids hats the other day.
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