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Vikings Tailgate: Cy Amundson and Chad Daniels Are Shocked At The Chaos Of The Current NFL - WAS - Ep 66 · The Vikings Tailgate

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome into another episode of the Tailgate, brought
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Speaker 1: to you by Ticketmaster. I'm your host, Siaminson, across from me,
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Speaker 1: your co host, the great Chad Daniels and Chatty Daddy.
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Speaker 1: Not an awesome time to be a Viking fan?
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Speaker 4: Disagree?
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's always a good time, but it's
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Speaker 1: it is so I think having this show the last
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Speaker 1: few years.
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Speaker 2: And I don't mind this at all.
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Speaker 1: I like this, but a lot of fans who listen
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Speaker 1: to our other show and this show, who are also
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Speaker 1: Viking fans, you just wind up in a lot of conversations. Sure,
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Speaker 1: you become a bouncing point for people's thoughts and ideas,
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Speaker 1: and when the team scores zero points for the first
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Speaker 1: time since two thousand and seven, people start throwing stuff
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Speaker 1: your direction. They start going, this is what's happening. This
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Speaker 1: is what's happening. And so you know, I think I
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Speaker 1: don't think anybody thought we would be here right right.
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Speaker 1: But what I told a bunch of people in the DMS,
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Speaker 1: as the kids say, what I told a bunch of
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Speaker 1: people is the thing that I and I'm not trying
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Speaker 1: to be sunnyside up, is I just here's the thing.
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Speaker 1: Sports are an escape for me. They're a place for joy,
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Speaker 1: and when they become not joy filled from a winning standpoint,
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Speaker 1: I still have to frame them that way because I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to be somebody who walks around miserable because
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Speaker 1: a sports team is losing.
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do that.
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Speaker 4: That's not wow. Then I'd like to know what is
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Speaker 4: making you miserable, but so.
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Speaker 2: Much other stuff.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there must be let the sports, Yeah, there
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Speaker 3: must be. I think, listen, nobody ever wants to play
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Speaker 3: the game as long as you should. Everybody ups the annie,
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Speaker 3: everybody makes it more crazy than it needs to be.
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Speaker 3: And I still think this team has a lot of positives.
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Speaker 1: Well and to me, you know, and I don't even
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Speaker 1: need to be mister positive guy.
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Speaker 2: I just like, here's my big.
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Speaker 1: Takeaway because I've been lucky enough to be a part
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Speaker 1: of the organization for a while now. Like, and I
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Speaker 1: told people this in the DMS. When you at the
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Speaker 1: end of the season, they release these organizational grades and
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Speaker 1: and there, how do you do from a player rehabilitation standpoint?
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Speaker 2: What's your food like?
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Speaker 1: Like? And the vikings every aspect of the organization, all
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Speaker 1: these things you never think about as a fan. The
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Speaker 1: Vikings are always right at the top.
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Speaker 2: They're one or two in all the grades.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's why they attract high end coaches
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Speaker 1: like Flores Josh McCown. I think that's why, you know,
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Speaker 1: assistant coaches. I think that's why it was such a
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Speaker 1: coveted head coaching position. It's just a really well run group.
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Speaker 1: And so to me, when you get in a moment
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Speaker 1: like this, whereas I think with other teams you might
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Speaker 1: like and other sports, like, sometimes it can feel destitute,
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Speaker 1: right or hopeless if I used words I don't understand.
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Speaker 4: Correctly, and you always do.
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Speaker 1: I'm just not going to at me from trying, right.
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Speaker 1: But I continue to believe that the number one thing
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Speaker 1: in sports is ownership and organizational structure, especially in the NFL,
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Speaker 1: where it's a true salary cap sport, there is real parody.
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Speaker 1: Look at what's happening in the NFL right now, Like
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Speaker 1: jur producer said this before the show, there's a real
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Speaker 1: scenario where the Ravens, the Bills, and the Chiefs all
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Speaker 1: missed the playoffs. Yeah, the the Bears.
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Speaker 2: Are that tied for the number one seed.
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Speaker 3: I know so they are, and we gave them hell
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Speaker 3: both games.
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Speaker 4: Dude, think of how we were so close on the
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Speaker 4: second game.
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Speaker 1: Do you think of how like how short of a
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Speaker 1: distance it is between right now and when that debacle
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Speaker 1: happened on Thanksgiving, like and and now they're the number
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Speaker 1: one seed, right and so in these moments like I
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Speaker 1: can't tell you to not be upset. I think the
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Speaker 1: people who are the mos host upset. Are the people
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Speaker 1: actually participating.
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Speaker 4: You can see it on their faces.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're they're upset. So I like to remind
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Speaker 1: people that I think we do have a really strong organization,
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Speaker 1: and I don't think they're gonna go a long direction
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Speaker 1: away from turning the right corner. I don't know when,
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Speaker 1: I don't know how, but I but I that's kind
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Speaker 1: of where I put all my positivity in moments like this,
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Speaker 1: because I remember what it was like when we didn't
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Speaker 1: have an organization.
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Speaker 4: Like that, right.
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Speaker 3: And I also want to say here regarding the quarterback situation,
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Speaker 3: Sam Darnold was a great quarterback before he got here, right,
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Speaker 3: he was good with the jet. He didn't have an offense,
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Speaker 3: and then he sat behind guys and so he he
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Speaker 3: was good. He went in the first round. He gets here,
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Speaker 3: he's got a great offense, and he performs right. It's
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Speaker 3: not like the air in Minnesota pumped his right arm.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we have to remember that the two people
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Speaker 3: were talking about here, JJ McCarthy and Max Brosmer is
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Speaker 3: like they're young kids. And I've said this before on
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Speaker 3: the show. They're gonna struggle. There's gonna be growing pains
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Speaker 3: and there's gonna be problems. But I don't think giving
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Speaker 3: up on him. I mean, you know, I wonder if
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Speaker 3: if all the all the people having trouble with this
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Speaker 3: listening right now, when they're when their children weren't walking
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Speaker 3: by the time they were four months old, they.
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Speaker 4: Thought, well, that's it. I guess we just buy him
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Speaker 4: a chair.
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Speaker 2: I guess we drag him for twenty years.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess we just give him a lazy boy.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: The other question I've gotten a lot from people is
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Speaker 1: how you know, Oh no, Justin. Justin Jefferson is the
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Speaker 1: guy I'm the least concerned about in the history of
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Speaker 1: you know this, This is a fan base like fairness
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Speaker 1: to this city. They have lost sports loves right. KG
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Speaker 1: goes to Boston, wins titles. Urtees goes to Boston, wins titles.
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Speaker 1: Randy ma gone, like Steph Marberry breaks up the original
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Speaker 1: power duo.
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Speaker 3: They're like, you know who never left? I'm just gonna
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Speaker 3: throw out you know who never left? Joe Mauer. Even
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Speaker 3: when Alex Rodriguez was knocking his championship ring on a
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Speaker 3: table when they were all together, he still said, no chance.
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Speaker 2: It's a great story. I always forget about that.
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Speaker 1: You know, one thing I wish that we could change
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Speaker 1: as Minnesota fans that I'm kind of tired of. And
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go at the fans here a little bit
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Speaker 1: so you can reel me back in. We're actually not
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Speaker 1: that special. We act like we're like we have a
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Speaker 1: really long championship drought.
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Speaker 2: That is true for the four major sports. It's absurd.
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Speaker 1: But we like, we're not the only organization to miss
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Speaker 1: a kick. We're not the only like, go look at
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Speaker 1: all we talked about the Browns earlier year. There's a
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Speaker 1: lot of like almost every organization has a series of
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Speaker 1: plays where they go the interception, the kick.
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Speaker 2: Like things that have screwed them.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's it's it's the the something. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So I don't I don't think you need to sit around.
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Speaker 1: And I think justin Jefferson is this high team character
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Speaker 1: related of a guy. And I like that he's upset,
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Speaker 1: you know you want your or he appears upset.
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Speaker 2: I would say frustrated. It's the better word.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you want that. Now, what I will tell you,
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Speaker 1: Chad is did I am I? In Paul Charchion's.
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Speaker 2: Official Guillotine League League.
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Speaker 1: Like the one with the Paul with the Paul himself,
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Speaker 1: And did I play it so exceptionally this year where
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Speaker 1: I had the most money, And did I get a
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Speaker 1: chance at Justin Jefferson oh before the Lions game or so,
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Speaker 1: and take a swing and spend a lot of my
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Speaker 1: free agency dollars?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: And am I worried as I head into the playoffs
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Speaker 1: with my first chance ever at a title that that decision?
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Speaker 1: So do do I have a Listen? I'm heavily invested,
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Speaker 1: sure in Justin Jefferson's performance, and even I not worried
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Speaker 1: about the dude at all.
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Speaker 3: Two things, I'm in a different league with you, and
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Speaker 3: I see where your standings are, and I'm not worried
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Speaker 3: about you having to be worried about anything because you're
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Speaker 3: not good at it.
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Speaker 4: And secondly, you.
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Speaker 3: Get you get so many people talking about we haven't
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Speaker 3: had a title in forever, and you go what about
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Speaker 3: eighty seven? What about ninety one with the twins? And
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Speaker 3: then you get kids going like, oh, I wasn't born.
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Speaker 3: Then it's like, well, you should have tried harder to
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Speaker 3: be born back when born in this state.
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Speaker 2: I've said that for years.
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Speaker 1: Is it time I've thought about, like, do we have
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Speaker 1: enough the Guillotine leagues?
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Speaker 2: Have you played Guillotine League before?
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Speaker 4: I have yet?
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Speaker 1: Are you still in the are you still in the
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Speaker 1: Tim Harmsten absolutely friend of the show. I can't do
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Speaker 1: regular fantasy because.
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Speaker 4: Regular fantasy can't do you.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't I don't need that. I don't feel like
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of skill in it. It's just whoever,
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Speaker 1: whoever drafted Jonathan Taylor in the fourth round this year
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Speaker 1: because nobody thought.
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Speaker 2: He was gonna be good.
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Speaker 1: Guess what, that's who's probably gonna win your league.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't play one guy. You play two
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Speaker 3: running backs, a quarterback, two receivers, a tight end, a
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Speaker 3: defensive kicker, and the swing.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm right, it's called the flex i like
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Speaker 1: the Guillotine League for those who aren't familiar.
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Speaker 2: Because everybody Vante Adams.
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Speaker 4: I took DeVante Adams And you're gonna tell me that's lucky,
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Speaker 4: that's skill, dude.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I watched him in receiver. I like his atagudes and
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Speaker 3: I love that he has a taco bell in his house.
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Speaker 3: So I took him thinking like that nutrition plus the
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Speaker 3: new Rams offense boo yah, and guess what I am winning, winning, winning.
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Speaker 2: Do you like the Guillotine League?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, for those who aren't familiar, everybody you get
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Speaker 1: like sixteen or seventeen guys.
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Speaker 2: Everybody plays. Everybody the lowest scorachweek is kicked out.
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Speaker 1: You have a certain amount of free agency dollars all
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Speaker 1: year to spend, and you blindly bid on the players
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Speaker 1: of the guy who got kicked out each week. It
10:45
Speaker 1: is if everybody is heavily invested in the way the
10:48
Speaker 1: game is played, it's the most fun fantasy game I've
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Speaker 1: ever played. If not everybody is, somebody gets like Saquon
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Speaker 1: Barkley for a dollar and the whole league is pointless.
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Speaker 1: But if everybody's invested, I'm obst asked with it. Do
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Speaker 1: you think I've been I've been waiting on this because
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Speaker 1: you don't like to get involved. You and I are
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Speaker 1: two tangled, right. I think I think we're involved in
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Speaker 1: too many things together.
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Speaker 4: Oh, there's no question your son or other podcast, dude.
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Speaker 1: Our other other podcasts that hasn't come out yet, size
11:20
Speaker 1: Gray's Anatomy, a Gray's Anatomy review podcast where I tell
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Speaker 1: you about each episode as I watch.
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Speaker 4: It, and then I just reply that your son is
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Speaker 4: my son.
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Speaker 1: The But I do think we should intertwine deeper, and
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Speaker 1: I think we should start a comedian's guillotine league.
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Speaker 4: Nobody will take it serious, here's the problem with it.
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Speaker 2: But then do we do a non comedian's guillotine.
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Speaker 3: We have to we have to find some people that
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Speaker 3: really care about winning. Yeah, because comedians, comedians especially now,
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Speaker 3: comedians are like, I don't want to win. I just
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Speaker 3: want to have fun, and I want to make sure
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Speaker 3: everyone else has fun. Comedians right now are great grandmas.
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Speaker 3: I just want everybody to tie.
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about why losing matters.
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Speaker 2: I want to talk about why losing is good for you? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: why is that? Who is who are we doing? I
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Speaker 2: know we're doing mic.
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Speaker 4: Croning very specific micron.
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Speaker 1: Very specifically, Mike Cronin. That's a shot that not everybody
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Speaker 1: in the audience is going to understand. But your Minnesota
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Speaker 1: Vikings are playing Washington this week. I'm I'm gonna remain
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Speaker 1: curious as we go forward. That's where I'm gonna say,
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Speaker 1: let's go to commercial. I want to talk a little
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Speaker 1: bit about because I will unwind if I focus.
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Speaker 2: Too hard on where we're at.
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Speaker 1: I want to focus a little bit on the insanity
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Speaker 1: that is the rest of the league.
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Speaker 4: Well, let me let me throw this out. Let me
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Speaker 4: throw this out first.
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Speaker 3: I hate to interrupt you, but I do want to
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Speaker 3: use this segment to let people know that are listening
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Speaker 3: that if you have your headphones plugged into your computer
12:47
Speaker 3: and you have slippers on and it's winter, don't drag
12:51
Speaker 3: your feet on the carpet when your headphones are in
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Speaker 3: because an electric bolt will go from one headphone to
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Speaker 3: the other and it will fry your brain. Anyways, I
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Speaker 3: feel great, that hurt.
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Speaker 4: What were you saying.
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Speaker 1: You look like somebody who just got all their pain erase,
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Speaker 1: but also their abilities and memories.
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Speaker 2: That's the look on your face.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm Jim Carrey in The Spotless Sunshine whatever
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Speaker 3: that movie is.
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Speaker 2: Nailed it.
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Speaker 1: All three underdogs win on Thanksgiving. Yeah, Green Bay beats Detroit,
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Speaker 1: Dallas beats Kansas City, Cincinnati beats Baltimore, and we're in
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Speaker 1: just this really weird place. Like we mentioned, the three
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Speaker 1: perennial powerhouses in THEFC could all miss the playoffs. Chicago
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Speaker 1: somehow beats Philly. Like, let me tell you something about
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Speaker 1: our fan base. Our fan base is upset frustrated. But
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what our fan base isn't doing when
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Speaker 1: we are one of the top teams in the NFC
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Speaker 1: and we lose an important game against another top team
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Speaker 1: in the NFC. We're not going out and egging the
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator's house, which is what people in Philly are doing.
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Speaker 3: I mean, and on their way to the house, they're
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Speaker 3: still cop horse crap.
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Speaker 4: They did that when they won the Super Bowl. That
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Speaker 4: they did that when they won.
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Speaker 3: Of course, somebody's getting egged when they lose. You know,
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Speaker 3: A shout out to the Vikes defense against the Bears
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Speaker 3: in that second game. That was unbelievable performance.
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Speaker 1: The Chicago thing is interesting to me because on one hand,
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Speaker 1: you're like, well, you can't deny nine to three. It
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Speaker 1: would be so insane for all of a sudden, like wait,
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Speaker 1: are the Bears are the actual number one seed? But
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Speaker 1: they remind me kind of of us a couple of
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Speaker 1: years ago. You know that Kirkiar kind of some other
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Speaker 1: teams where they are succeeding in end of games at
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Speaker 1: a rate that is pretty rare, and you get a
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Speaker 1: lot of credit for that, and then you also wonder
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Speaker 1: can it hold up? And I gotta tell you, I
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Speaker 1: need it not to hold up. I don't want to
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Speaker 1: wish a whole city a big loser, you know, a
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Speaker 1: big losing moment. But I don't need this universe where
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Speaker 1: the Bears are the best team in art and only
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Speaker 1: because I know how good Green Band Detroit area. I
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Speaker 1: don't like that future. I need some crumbling to happen
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Speaker 1: in Chicago.
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it has to. I think just coordinators need
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Speaker 3: to realize that if you have a fourteen point lead,
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Speaker 3: a last minute touchdown isn't gonna matter, So you just
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Speaker 3: need to take care of that.
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Speaker 4: You need to wrap that up against the Bears.
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Speaker 2: The Niners are.
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Speaker 1: I think they're my pick to go, and I know
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Speaker 1: no one agrees with that, but I think it's just
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Speaker 1: because of the narratives early in the season and the
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Speaker 1: roster turnover, and basically the NFC West is doing what
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Speaker 1: the NFC North did last season. Rams are nine and three,
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Speaker 1: they're technically the two seed, tied record wise. Seahawks are
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Speaker 1: nine and three, technically like they're the five seed. The
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Speaker 1: Niners are nine and four, they're the seven seed. But
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Speaker 1: I think when it's all said and done, you might go, oh,
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Speaker 1: the Niners pulled it together at the exact right time,
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Speaker 1: and oh yeah, we forgot brock Perty and their whole team.
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Speaker 2: They're like really, really, really good at football.
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Speaker 3: Did you did you have the Rams picked as your
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Speaker 3: favorite there before the Panther game?
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Speaker 1: I had the Rams picked as a potential like one
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Speaker 1: of the teams that I thought was most likely to
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Speaker 1: come out in the preseason. Okay, I just think they
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Speaker 1: they are so well coached, and that when we lost
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Speaker 1: to them in the playoffs last year, that defense, you
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Speaker 1: you found out how old some of those guys were,
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Speaker 1: and you went, oh, this it felt like you remember
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Speaker 1: when the OKC thunder had Harden Durant and Russ Westbrook
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Speaker 1: all like on early contracts, Like, well, this will probably
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Speaker 1: be some version of a problem going forward.
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Speaker 4: Yeah you go, oh, man, I had their shoes in college.
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Speaker 4: This isn't going to go great.
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Speaker 1: You had their shoes, you weren't you in your you
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Speaker 1: went to college in your fifties?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, non tradition. You ever heard of it?
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Speaker 2: Non trad you're back to school, mom.
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Speaker 4: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: On the bubble, Detroit, Dallas and Carolina. I didn't see
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Speaker 1: Carolina being there. I certainly didn't see Detroit down here.
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Speaker 1: If there's a universe where Detroit Buffalo the Bengals, which
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Speaker 1: will put them on the outskirts because they haven't a
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Speaker 1: good season because Joe Burrow is hurt. But the Bengals,
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and the Ravens all don't make it. What
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Speaker 1: a it's kind of what I'm saying, what a bizarro universe?
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Speaker 1: And it's this feels like the best version of the
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Speaker 1: NFL since Tom Brady retired. This one year where you go,
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Speaker 1: I actually don't know. Yeah, every year you felt like
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Speaker 1: it'll probably be the Chiefs.
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Speaker 2: If not, it's the Bills.
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Speaker 1: Right now, I don't know in the AFC, and I
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Speaker 1: for sure don't know in the NFC. It feels more
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Speaker 1: like a real we're coming up on a real tournament.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's gonna be good. And I love
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Speaker 3: fresh blood. Right, you get sick of going, oh, it's
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Speaker 3: these two again. I can't even when it's the same
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Speaker 3: two in the final four.
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Speaker 4: It bothers me. I want fresh blood.
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Speaker 3: And you want to talk about the Patriots, Dude, Drake
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Speaker 3: may is leading that team.
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Speaker 4: It's unbelievable, dude, watching those guys.
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Speaker 1: And Denver's defense is so good. And Sean pa That's
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Speaker 1: the thing. When you have an offensive coach that good
18:21
Speaker 1: and a defense that good, it's just gonna be weird.
18:23
Speaker 2: You just look at.
18:24
Speaker 1: Standings and you go New England, Denver, Jacksonville. And I
18:27
Speaker 1: love me some Jacksonville. Yeah, big fan of Jacksonville. But
18:32
Speaker 1: I just think it's gonna be fun. I think I
18:35
Speaker 1: need one of two things. I either need a villain
18:38
Speaker 1: that I'm rooting against, which I like Patrick Mahomes. It's
18:40
Speaker 1: not fun to have the chiefs of a villain, or
18:44
Speaker 1: I need this like, oh my god, I don't really
18:47
Speaker 1: know these teams. Any of them could take it. Like
18:50
Speaker 1: I know, it's crazy to say. I could find myself
18:52
Speaker 1: rooting for New England in the game because they had
18:54
Speaker 1: all that success for years. But I like Rabel and
18:56
Speaker 1: I really like watching Drake May.
18:59
Speaker 3: Yeah he's so solid quarterback. And I think when you
19:02
Speaker 3: get fresh blood, it's like watching the March madness when
19:06
Speaker 3: a team hasn't been in ever before, and so all
19:08
Speaker 3: they do is run stories on all the coaches and
19:11
Speaker 3: all the players. And you're four games into this tournament
19:14
Speaker 3: and they keep winning as the underdog, and before the
19:17
Speaker 3: game you're like having to have a box of tissues
19:19
Speaker 3: there because you're weeping about one of the stories.
19:22
Speaker 4: That's the kind of stuff I like.
19:24
Speaker 3: Man, if my team's not in it, teach me something
19:26
Speaker 3: and let me watch something awesome.
19:28
Speaker 1: Well, And and then you look at the games going
19:30
Speaker 1: into week fourteen, and they're nuts. Given who's around the bubble.
19:35
Speaker 1: You have Dallas Detroit where these are two teams right
19:39
Speaker 1: on the edge and whoever loses this one's in it.
19:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, they both need it.
19:43
Speaker 1: They both need it, and they're both so good offensively
19:48
Speaker 1: that that could be an incredible game to watch. You
19:51
Speaker 1: have Indy Jacksonville, Jacksonville trying to hold onto that spot,
19:54
Speaker 1: and Indy's kind of sputtering with two straight losses. That'll
19:58
Speaker 1: be a fun one. And then I don't know how
20:01
Speaker 1: you're not like people right by the way the most
20:05
Speaker 1: and I know it might happen sometimes it's just time.
20:07
Speaker 1: But the most insane take in the NFL right now
20:11
Speaker 1: is Mike Tomlins shouldn't be our coach anymore.
20:14
Speaker 4: Oh that's right. I know.
20:16
Speaker 3: People are booing, they're saying fire Tomlin, get out of here.
20:20
Speaker 4: What are you even watching?
20:22
Speaker 1: It's crazy, it's hus thing. I get the frustration I
20:24
Speaker 1: get not watching a making a playoff game.
20:26
Speaker 2: I just I love our coach.
20:28
Speaker 1: But let's let's make me the head of a brand
20:31
Speaker 1: new fake team and you give me a Mike Tomlin
20:33
Speaker 1: to start an organization. I would be running around high
20:38
Speaker 1: fiving people.
20:39
Speaker 2: And it's just nuts.
20:42
Speaker 1: But that that Baltimore Pittsburgh game, Baltimore is favored by
20:46
Speaker 1: almost a touchdown. It is Uh, that'll be a really
20:50
Speaker 1: intense match given everything that's going on. And then we
20:53
Speaker 1: get to Chicago and Green Bay. Yeah, and it's just
20:58
Speaker 1: an all time bleep you moment for the Bears if
21:02
Speaker 1: they want it right. They never win in Green Bay,
21:05
Speaker 1: they never like the Packers have owned green Bay forever.
21:10
Speaker 1: And you have a chance at nine to three to
21:12
Speaker 1: go in six and a half point underdogs and drop
21:16
Speaker 1: it on their face. Yeah what like Again, I'm not
21:19
Speaker 1: rooting for the Bears. I don't want success for the Bears,
21:22
Speaker 1: but I can understand one of those moments where you
21:26
Speaker 1: get to show everybody up and it's an all time opportunity.
21:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like watching the two kids that used
21:32
Speaker 3: to bully you in elementary school fight. You go, I
21:36
Speaker 3: don't want any of them to win. Somehow, but I
21:39
Speaker 3: certainly don't want big market. I don't want Yeah, I
21:41
Speaker 3: don't want there to even be a tie. I somehow
21:43
Speaker 3: want both of them to lose. I want each team
21:45
Speaker 3: to get penalized so severely that they both have to
21:48
Speaker 3: put a loss on their record.
21:50
Speaker 2: That's all we can hop for.
21:51
Speaker 1: Let's let that be instead of doing a game prediction,
21:55
Speaker 1: let's let that be our Chad and I's prediction for
21:57
Speaker 1: this week is that Green Bay and Chicago will tie,
22:01
Speaker 1: which is essentially an unhelpful blemish on both of their records.
22:06
Speaker 3: You know what I think is interesting is green Bay
22:08
Speaker 3: because they tied, it actually did help them because they
22:13
Speaker 3: have even though they have one less win, they have
22:16
Speaker 3: one less loss, and so they are actually above somebody
22:20
Speaker 3: with one more win.
22:21
Speaker 1: I don't get it, but they need wins right now,
22:23
Speaker 1: and so let's give them. Let's give them each.
22:25
Speaker 2: A half loss. So let's call it a tie, half win,
22:28
Speaker 2: half loss.
22:29
Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us on the tailgate, Chad,
22:32
Speaker 1: I care about you. I hope, I hope deeply that
22:36
Speaker 1: our techt thread is a fun one this weekend.
22:38
Speaker 3: Oh I can't wait, I'm I listen. I watched The
22:42
Speaker 3: Commanders I watched them in their last game, and I'm
22:45
Speaker 3: excited to put Purple against them.
22:48
Speaker 1: Bur you will hear from both of us again next week.
22:54
Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for us on the tailgate. Thanks
22:56
Speaker 2: to Chad. Thanks to all you for listening.
22:58
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Speaker 2: Enjoy the game, everybody
23:12
Speaker 4: No way, I just zapped my ears again