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Instant Reaction: Kyle McCord Officially Named Ohio State's Starting Quarterback · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Yeah, welcome to a very very special live edition of Buckeye Tomorrow Morning for
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Wednesday, September thirteenth. I'm your host Sam Moore. The Western Kentucky game
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in three days, the game he gets Michigan in seventy three days, joined
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by Tony Gerdeman. Just got a chance to talk to Ryan Day Jim Knowles
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about a whole bunch of stuff. Unlike in the press conference, though,
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We've got to start with the big news of the day, and that is,
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hey, Tony, Shockingly, Ohio State has a starting quarterback and you're
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not gonna believe it, but it's the guy we've kind of all been expecting
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for weeks two months now. Yeah, Ryan Day said that Commiccord is now
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the official starting quarterback for the twenty twenty three season. So that is done
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and it is settled. The plan is still to play Devin Brown like you
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would play any backup quarterback, because initially later had to clarify that, but
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it's like, yeah, the plan they still want to play Devon and just
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like they want to play everybody. But it's Colm Accord and he will be
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getting the more of the first team reps in practice and all of the meaningful
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snaps throughout the games at this point. And this is something that is going
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to impact the on field product for sure, because I think coming out of
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the last couple of games, I felt like yo yoing the quarterbacks a little
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bit. They haven't done it a ton, but it just it feels like
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you maybe get a little bit out of the rhythm of the game. But
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this is also going to have an impact on practice, and that's where maybe
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you're going to see the bigger impact and the bigger opportunity for commic Chord to
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sort of ramp up his production and ramp up what he's able to do on
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during the games, because now it sounds like he's not getting every single one
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of the snaps are the ones, But you know, after being fifty fifty,
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it sounds like that split's going to be significantly further on the commic chord
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side of things. Yeah, it'll just allow him to get gain more and
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more and more consistency. And he's already been the most consistent of the quarterbacks.
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That is what Ryan days kind of kind of what won him the job
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doing the routine things routinely, and that consistency in the act racy and all
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that and this is only going to help that. And that was one of
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the things I asked right day about, you know, where your third down
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issues a portion there wasn't a product of the quarterback maneuvering, and you know,
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he's like, I kind of wishy washing, but it certainly doesn't help
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the efficiency on offense third down issues just pulling guys now, and you knew
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it wasn't going to help. But this is not something you do to make
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the offense better or else everybody would do it. This is something that has
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to be done when you're looking for a quarterback, and it is not going
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to help the offense, but it has to be done. And so now
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it's done, and now that they can move forward, and this is sort
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of the timeline that when they announced they were going to go into the season
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with it, it was kind of like, Okay, this is probably about
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when you'd make a decision because you want him to have the full week heading
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into Western Kentucky, because you want that full week heading into the full week
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of Notre Dame. That's really, you know what the real deciding factor.
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I think he's here. Day was asked specifically about the timing. You know,
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when the schedule said, yeah, you know, it's not They felt
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like they had seen enough so it wasn't necessarily driven by that Notre Dame that
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game looming, but boy, it probably feels like that's a factor. And
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he said he knew it after the game, after what he knew it,
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but he didn't want to announce it then before he saw the film. But
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he came out of that game just like I think everybody came out of that
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game saying that Kvalcord was your starting quarterback. And you know, I think
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we the way he answered that question after the game, I think we both
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kind of went okay, yeah, yeah, you could. You could just
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kind of tell the way he was talking about it. One thing that that
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was really interesting was the deciding factors you mentioned consistency leader, right, they
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mentioned the word consistency. It felt like about eight to ten times. That's
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what they're looking for. You don't have to be the single greatest, You
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don't have to have the Joe Milton arm. You just have to be able
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to keep the offense on schedule, make the routine plays routinely, stay efficient,
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be able to hit the explosives, and all of that stuff seems like
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they feel like Commic coord is the guy to do it, and that Commic
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Cord is only going to get better in all those areas now that he's getting
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more of the practice reps, more staying in rhythm with the offenser in the
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games, and not to belabor the clock rolls, but with each possession being
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more important, each third down being more important, the more consistent your quarterback
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is the better. And I like that he admitted regarding Devin Brown's like you
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all saw it, that was one of those kinments, Like you saw that.
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The consistency isn't there yet. He can make every throw, he can
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do everything you need, but it's just doing it on a repeatable basis that
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is the issue right now, and he'll continue to work towards that. Obviously
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he doesn't want to. Nobody wants to be the backup when you're battling for
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the starter. But as was mentioned, you look at what happened with Aaron
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Rodgers Monday Night football. You are one play away and it doesn't matter what
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level. And this was something that Karmic Cord was happy about. Devin Brown
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is probably bummed, but you can't let that change what you're doing now.
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You have to. You have to just sort of keep working because you are
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always one lay away if you're the backup. The quarterback was obviously the big
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story of the day. I still don't think, and we've talked about this,
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I don't think the quarterback doesn't necessarily the biggest deciding factor and what this
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team does and end up doesn't end up being this season, that might be
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the offensive line and the offensive line, you know, I mean, Ryan
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Day very much still in uh. You know, we talked about this in
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our rewatch episode of Buckeye Weekly that has gone up or we'll go up shortly.
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We recorded before we did the Ryan Day thing. We talked about how
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this is just it's not there yet. It might get there, but it's
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definitely not there yet. And Ryan Day very much, you know, he
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does not seem like he is comfortable or thrilled with where things are right now.
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Well, he was asked directly, did you see the kind of improvement
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you wanted to in the running game from offensive line from week one to week
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two? And he was gonna be diplomatic, and then I think, no,
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yeah, yeah, I didn't. Yeah, all right, we got
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a super Ryan. If you had to pick one dB to have a great
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game against Western Kentucky, who would it be? And why? If you
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had to pick one defensive back to have a great game against Western Kentucky,
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who would it be? And why? I feel like, you know,
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this is going to go back to something else we talked about on the episode
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of Buckeye Weekly. I kind of want to see the adjuster because the adjuster
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is the spot where it feels like it's the biggest question right now, and
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that's one of the really crucial positions on this team, and right now,
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if Josh Procter is healthy, it sounds like he's going to be Josh Procter
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on Saturday. But they're not. You know, they weren't. No one
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said, oh yeah, he'll be fine, like he's definitely gonna play.
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But to me, that's the place where, you know, the biggest question
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mark. That's the spot where you would want to have the like at least
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period, if not an exclamation point. Yeah, I would agree completely with
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that because even with there are three different nickels that they will run, I
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think you feel pretty good about what Jordan Hancock would do there. So yeah,
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the adjuster of the answer for me as well, and not knowing if
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that is Josh Proctor or Jehad Carter, Malike Hartford who was pulled because things
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didn't go well for him on that first drive, But if Procter, I'll
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be interested to see if he practices to Tuesday, because Tuesday is the hardest,
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you know, bloody Tuesday. I don't know if that's something they want
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to involve him in right now. I'm not sure that he was even out
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there further Sunday type of practice because it sounds like it's going to come down
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to practice time, and if that's still a question on Tuesday, then that
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is going to be a question throughout the week. Yeah, and you've got
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to I mean, you know, you're less worried about him getting the practice
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reps than like a Malik Hartford or even a Johad Carter who's a veteran,
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but not a veteran at Ohio State. Procter's been here since, you know,
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the Truman administration. I still think he needs he needs. Consistency has
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also been one of his issues, and so I don't think you can have
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him go out there after just maybe a practice and then deal with a West
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Western Kentucky passing aim that's gonna throw the ball all over the place east,
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west, east, west, north, then necessarily south unless they're going that
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direction. But they're gonna challenge everybody in a secondary, including the deep guy,
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and so it would be a tough ask for him to not get a
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as much of a full week of practice as possible and then throw him out
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there at the start. Now, things may not go well for whoever starts,
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and then you go to the next guy like they did last week.
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Yeah, this is gonna be a little bit of a unique challenge, and
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that was something Jim Nols talked a bunch about. This is not necessarily like
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the pure uncut Columbian Mike raid, but it's air raid adjacent enough that you
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kind of know what you're expecting. And you know, Noel's talked about the
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fact that they're gonna try and get you to go sideline to sideline and tire
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your defensive line out, and they're gonna take the shots down the field,
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and you know you've got to just He talked about eye discipline the way right,
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they talked about the need of for consistency, but the quarterback position,
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Noel's talked about eye discipline, and you know, that's just they had.
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You asked a great question about using leverage more last week, and it feels
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like that and some of the factors that led into that last week are going
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to play into keeping Western Kentucky from hitting big plays and staying on the field
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this week. It was interesting because they didn't lose leverage almost at all against
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Indiana because they were seeing something new and so they had to the triple option.
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They weren't prepared for it, so they had to really hyper focus on
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it. And then the next week when they see an offense that they were
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prepared for, it's like they get a little bit of loosey goosey. They
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get a little wild with the driving, you know, like I know the
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curves, I know how to I know where I'm going, I know the
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curves here, I can do this. Tunes is the starting safety. And
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then you kind of get under the berm or the shoulder there and it's like,
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you know, you could just stay between the lines if you wanted to
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do it that way. You don't have to go crazy when you're driving the
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country roads on the way home. Not that I've ever done any of that,
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but the kind of defense that the offense that they see, it's it's
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what they expect if they would just get back to focusing on my part.
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And because what Jim Noll said is they tried to do too much. Individual
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guys are trying to do too much. And then it's not like they lost
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leverage a bunch, but it was a bunch compared to the week before when
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it was noticeable how little they did it. And so when they do it
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some and it may have only been like four or five plays, but it
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was there, and four or five plays against Youngstown State could be eight to
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fifteen against Western Kentucky with better athletes and a more diverse scheme that is trying
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to create issues like that. So I think they need to go back and
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look at how well they were, how focused they were against Indiana, and
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say, we need to be that focused in this game. Regardless of how
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well prepared you are, you shouldn't preparing you better for something should not make
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you worse at it. So like you need to rely on that preparation and
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just focus on your thing. And because I'm tight, yeah, it's to
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take you. You're driving analogy there, you know, It's it's like you're
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driving in a blizzard and you've got your hands at ten and two and you're
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hunched over the wheel and you're staring out the thing and you're not blinking,
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and you're paying super close attention because you know that that was Ohio State against
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Indiana, Like, oh crap, we haven't practiced for any of this.
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We got a really And then you know, if you're playing an FBS an
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FCS team and it's you're good, You're getting the offense you're expected, like
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oh, you know, hey, I've got one hand on the wheel,
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I'm reaching down from my chips and I've got you know, hey, the
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radio's one of those things where like you get hold of me, like I
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don't even remember driving. You're there. Yeah, you start stop paying attention
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and facing an offense. It's a little bit different from what they've faced before.
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You know, this is this is not Noel's has talked to talk you
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know, asked about like teams in the Big Ten that sort of remind him
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of Western Kentucky's outfense. It's like, well, you know, Indiana when
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Michael Pennox was there, threw it around a lot, and you know,
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maybe Purdue last year, but you know, they really don't face that type
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of offense. You wonder that might keep the focus a little more, keep
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the car between the lines a little bit more. This week we'll find out.
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But you know, the coverage in the secondary, there was a lot
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of conversation. But the coverage in the secondary and how that ties into the
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pass rush, and the pass rush is you know, I mean, he's
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certainly a concern among Ohio State fans, and I'm not I'm not going to
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say irrationally a concern about of Ohio State fans. They talked about the fact
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that this is, you know, partly driven by the offenses they're facing,
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and so you don't have a ton of pass dropbacks, you don't have a
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ton of pass rush opportunities. But this is a week when you are going
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to have a lot of dropbacks and they're going to try and get the ball
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out. But this is gonna be this is going to be a test and
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maybe a little bit of a barometer week for Okay, is the pass rush
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really a concern or is it sort of a situational thing the first two weeks?
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Yeah. Absolutely, Vin won't play scared anymore. I do you think
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Tom McCord has played scared. I think Kyle McCord has looked like he's been
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playing with a significantly and steadily increasing level of confidence as he's gone along.
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Yeah, I wouldn't, but McCord as a quarterback who is looking like he's
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playing thinking about something else, you know, worried about something else. And
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he played better from the second half of the in the end of game than
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he did against in the first half of that game, and and built on
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that and has played better and has looked more comfortable and more confident. And
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Ryan Day expects that to continue. Yeah, I'm expecting another solid I mean,
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this is not a great This is going to be a better test for
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the Ohio State defense this week than the Ohi State offense Western Kentucky's not.
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I don't I really don't want to oversell this. This is not you know,
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the nineteen ninety one Houston Oilers coming in, but it's it's a team
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that is going to stress Ohio State in a way that Ohio State has not
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been stressed yet. So that's going to make it an interesting thing. And
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I do think you're going to give up some points, but you know,
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offensively for Ohio State. Pimaccord is not the thing that I think people should
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be watching nervously to see is it better this week or not. No,
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I expect him to throw for about three hundred and fifty yards this week,
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just because you know, Western Kentucky's past defense is not good, and he'll
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be out there for the majority of the game assuming things aren't going great,
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you know, like saying they're not they haven't scored sixty two points and three
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quarters or something like that. The super chant, the last one in butterfly.
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Is there a real chance we could lose this game? Is there a
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real chance or High State can lose this game? I don't. I mean,
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what's the line? Is it six twenty six or seven? Yeah?
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I mean not really. I you would have to have a lot of turnovers,
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or Western Kentucky would have to you know, you're kicking a ton of
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field goals in the red zone and boy, the defense can't get off the
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field, and I mean it's possible. I just this is not one.
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I think this is going to be a game where this is going to be
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an annoying game. This is not going to be a stressful game necessarily.
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This is going to be an annoying game where Ohio State wins thirty five twenty
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and everyone freaks out because this is Western Kentucky. You've going to Notre Dame
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next week, and if you can only beat them by fifteen points, boy,
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have you seen what Notre Dames? I'm doing the bad competition and they're
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gonna lose by seventeen points next week in South That's gonna be. That's That's
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what I'm fully expecting the postgame show. Yeah, I think they're gonna Western
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Kentucky's gonna fur the ball around. They may also throw for three hundred and
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fifty yards just because they do it so much. Kevin, didn't they give
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up like three hundred yards rushing last week US Week one? Yeah? And
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you know, and if you look at Austin Reid's game log from last year
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when in Indiana he put up three hundreds and passing yards throw a pick.
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He put up I think three hundreds of passing yards against Auburn when they played
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Auburn. He threw two picks in that game. He's you know, Jim
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Knowles talked about how well he takes care of the ball, and I went
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and looked at his game, like he threw eleven picks last year forty touchdowns,
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eleven interceptions, but it was two picks against Auburn and one pick and
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pretty much every other game. So you're probably getting one, but you know,
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not two. And he's six touchdowns no interceptions so far this year.
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I was just gonna say, do you know who was a wide receiver for
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Western Kentucky. I'm sure they have Smith? Oh, the Christian Blue Smith?
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How about that? So he went, he did Ohio State, Cincinnati,
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Western Kentucky. Was there any stop in the So this is his sixth
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year. I believe he was a class of twenty eighteen. He think it
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was an eighteen. Yeah. Yeah, we're talking to him right out there
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about his commitment to Ohio State. Boy, that's so interesting. This is
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two two weeks in a row. You've had a real blast in the past.
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Name last week it was Marcus Hooker. Yeah, yeah, and then
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any former Buckeyes on on the Irish other than their head coach Javonte Joan Baptist
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uh Al Washington. M hmm, it's a yeah, you got got got
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a few in there. Travian Henderson looked really good. I mean week one,
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everyone was everyone was talking about how Chip Trainham looking incredible, and they
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needed to give Travon Henderson fewer touches and more to chip train him. Week
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two, Travy and Henderson looked incredible or looked at least very very good,
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but he only had what five six carries. You know, that's that's going
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to just sort of be a challenge this year for Ohio State with only so
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many snaps. You've got all these wide receivers, You've got all these guys
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who want to get the ball too, You've got five talented running backs,
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I mean Ryan, They was asked about that, and you know, how
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do you how do you balance that and how do you do you are you
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trying to get him more touches every week? Well, and he said,
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you look at how many touches he had. He wanted They want him,
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right, they want Strabon Anderson to have more touches. But then he else
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said, you know, I want everybody to have more touches. But at
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some point you can there's only so many to go around, especially now with
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you know, sixty sixty plays or whatever, And so if they won't do
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what's they will continue to do what's best for the offense and the team.
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Overall, so they're not going to force the ball to people. But it
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was interesting to listen to him talk about how they put in the game plan
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and then they see, like who is that play designed for? And if
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it's skewed one way too far for somebody, they can adjust it. But
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this is you also have to get the ball to the guys who make the
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most plays. And I remember Irban mey are talking about you put your ten
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best playmakers on the list and say how we're going to get these guys the
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ball. We've got to get them the ball, and whether that's throwing the
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ball to Travian or you know him running at this point, based on what
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we saw last week against FCS defense, yes I know, and based on
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what we're going to see this week against a team that has trouble stopping a
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run. Like the more he gets I think the better for the offense,
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the efficiency the third downs. But maybe maybe not his stretch to the boundary.
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Maybe not real quick we have a super chat before we get to that,
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though. I did want to quickly mentioned speaking of Chip train them that
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right day said for the second week in a row, they got feedback from
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the Conference officiating offices, is bree from Bill Corollo, the director officiating,
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presumably that yeah, the holding penalty and chip training and the wiped out a
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touchdown probably should not have been a holding penalty. That's a second week in
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a row that they've had a call that wiped out a touchdown that the league
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office kind of like, yeah, maybe not, but you know, this
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is that one I think was a dry where they ended up scoring the touchdown
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like a play or two later, so didn't end up effecting the the final
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score, but just thought that was thought that was interesting. I think that
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one did affect that No. That's the one, the one against a Mecca
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Abuca that was a really bad no call took a touchdown off the board or
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took it, you know, killed that drive. I think the one where
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the past interference potentially against Marvin Harrison in the end zone, that one I
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think was a driver where they didn't end up scoring. But the one where
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it was a Trevi and Henderson run they got wiped out by the holding call,
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but then I think one or two plays later he ended up That was
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the one where he scored the touchdown. They ruled it a fumble on the
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field and they overturned it on reply. Pretty sure that's right, Kevin,
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Yeahvin win a cur super check Tony. I asked in an earlier shot earlier
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show for your record prediction, you said eleven and one, and I would
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have to donate more to know what game? What game were you thinking?
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This is pretty embarrassing, but it was Youngstown State? No, I don't
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know that you can really just well, I do think I still prior to
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seeing Wisconsin against Washington State, it was probably Wisconsin. But also I until
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they beat Michigan, I think that's going to be the answer. You just
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just go ahead and check that one until you're proven wrong. And if you're
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proven wrong, feel free to tell me and super chat what an idiot I
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am, or just do it personally like everybody else I done. Yeah,
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it feels like that's the most dangerous you're gonna pick them to lose one.
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That's the one where it's on the road. It's a team they haven't matched
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up with great so far in the last couple of years. It's it's a
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team that's looked. You know, Michigan has not been perfect, but Michigan
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also feels like they're improving in some areas. Where they were a little bit
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lacking last year, especially in the passing game. Defense has looked pretty darn
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good against against not great competition. But you know that that feels like that's
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the biggest danger spot right now. That's the only game they'll be underdog in,
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So that makes sense that you would choose that one. Although I will
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be interested to see what the Notre Dame line is next week when when it
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finally drops, because would you be shocked. I guess we'll have to see
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how things go this week. But if the game was this week Danny Sheridan,
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Yeah, well, the last time I saw Ohio State was favored by
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like seven or seven and a half, but that was a couple of weeks
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ago. Notre Dame has put up more impressive performances in Ohio State has so
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far. It feels like Notre Dame should be favored in that it does.
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But that's that would be a big line move from seven and a half,
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you know, I mean, it's two weeks of football is all we've seen,
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So that's you know, that's what you're based on. Yeah, I
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and I think, I mean, they're both public teams, but I think
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Ohio State, you know, there's a certain segment of the population, and
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I will kind of raise my hand and say, yeah, I'm kind of
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still in that bucket a little bit. Like, I know, I recognize
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that this Notre Dame team has pretty good skill talent a quarterback of the been
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having the past, I still kind of need to see Notre Dame do this
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against a you know, a team that is of the caliber that they you
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know, they have not matched up well against the Ohio States and Clemsons and
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Georgias and Alabamas of the world for a lot of the same reasons over and
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over and over again. I you know, I kind of want to see
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it before I actually buy in. But but I mean I get it.
22:22
Yeah, okay, chuckig call me a doomer, but I have a very
22:29
bad feeling about this team. I think this is a three plus lost team,
22:33
and I don't see any fire on the team or approaching staff. It
22:36
seems like a lot of apathy about just getting by, you know, I
22:41
mean, as far as apathy goes, it was you know, it's Youngstown
22:45
State and we called it basically a glorified spring game, which it kind of
22:48
was. I you know, I wouldn't judge any you know, the fire
22:56
of the team until you have an actual game that's supposed to be kind of
23:00
petitive, which we'll see that in a couple of weeks. I you know,
23:04
file Ohio State loses three games in a season in the same bucket as
23:08
Notre Dame. Uh, you know, Notre Dame suddenly has the skill talent
23:14
outside to match up with Ohio State. You know, I would have to
23:18
kind of see it before I believe it. You know, they have losable
23:22
games with this guy. They could lose it Notre Dame, they could lose
23:23
it Wisconsin, they could lose depend State, they could lose to lose at
23:26
Michigan. The Purdue game. Who the heck knows what the what the deal
23:30
is with Purdue, But that's the case always with Purdue, and they've lost
23:33
games at Purdue before. So I mean, yeah, it's it's possible,
23:37
but I don't I mean, I don't necessarily think that I'm in that same
23:41
group right now. And also I would question if after waiting nine months for
23:48
college football season to start, if you really want to be that miserable about
23:53
a team that's two and oh and you know, yeah still has still has
23:57
the every all of its goals ahead. I would also ask you to be
24:02
as critical of of the three teams that you think Ohio State is going to
24:07
lose as you are of Ohio State. I bet you're going to see some
24:10
faults there as well. Like if if you think Wisconsin is going to be
24:12
one of those teams, you know, like like I was talking about,
24:15
Wisconsin went to Washington State and lost. I mean, is it is it
24:18
just Notre Dame, Penn State and Michigan. You know, we will see,
24:22
but you know, you get you get one of those guys at home,
24:26
perhaps the most talented of those teams, Penn State at home. So
24:29
obviously it's a Those are three difficult games. But to lose all three of
24:33
those games, I'm not I'm not there yet yet. I think the over
24:37
under there on Ohio State losses between those two is between those three games is
24:41
one and a half. And you know, maybe maybe that's eleven and one,
24:44
maybe that's ten and two. I don't think it's super likely they go
24:48
twelve and ozho, But how many times have I said that over the years,
24:51
And they don't have to go twelve and off, they go eleven and
24:52
one, and they beat. You know, two of those three teams,
24:56
that's probably a pretty darn good playoff resume. Philip looks like a much more
25:02
confident and complete player. I'm excited to see him challenge Hardman in two weeks.
25:06
Iggy looks good too, But Burke number one, Yeah, Denzel Burke.
25:11
Bryant looks obviously more complete, more confident than then he did last year,
25:15
which you know is an up and down year. Ryan Day or Jim
25:18
Mils talked about how the professional approach and you saw that in the spring,
25:22
and it takes it's difficult for everybody to for anybody to self examine and see
25:29
where you need to change. And he's and he said, especially for a
25:32
kid in college who has had success, and so for him to do that,
25:36
give him a ton of credit. But yeah, he's been outstanding.
25:40
He's been everything that you thought he would be. As you know, a
25:44
guy who ends up starting as a true freshman, you're like, well,
25:45
imagine what this guy's going to be as a junior. And right now he's
25:48
doing that and talking about Iggba Nolson Davison, Nickba Nolson, how Jim Nelson
25:55
he doesn't want him to change anything he's doing aggressively if penalties, penalties will
25:59
come. You know, you try to technique that out of him, but
26:02
you don't want to change his mentality, his physicality, any of that.
26:04
You just want that to continue as is because it's working what he's doing,
26:08
and honestly, what they're doing with these big corners are working all right.
26:14
With any other super chats questions for twenty six minutes, we'll try and go
26:18
through these. They're pretty quickly, Billy Tuesday before it will be fine.
26:22
I'm worried about the trenches. Yeah, I think that's I think that's fair.
26:26
I think the offensive line would be my biggest question mark right now for
26:30
this team, and you know, we'll see how it looks this weekend.
26:33
They they're facing a team that has given up a lot of yards on the
26:37
ground and so this is a week where you should be able to run the
26:41
ball. If you can't run the ball now, then that really becomes a
26:44
concern that this is like a twenty eighteen county team where they just you get
26:48
real, real pass happy because you can't trust, you can't move them all
26:52
in the ground, so you get real one dimensional and that's when you put
26:56
up you know, you Dwayne Haskins says, all sorts of school passing records
26:59
in a game they lose is by three cutdowns, and you're never really at
27:03
a certain point. Fans picked up on Tom's Cocaine Reference Market X Tom's new
27:08
show lines, O lines and D lines. I missed that one, I
27:15
said, pure uncut areas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah,
27:18
I mean yeah, it's a there is a there is a certain uh.
27:22
Mike Leach was always known for not changing things at all, like this
27:27
is my system, this is why. Yeah, And and that was good
27:33
because they wrapped them so many times they got really good at them. But
27:36
also when you played them all the time. Washington used to just stomp those
27:40
Mike Leatons Wazoo teams every year because they knew it was coming and it was
27:44
just like all right, like blow the dust off the game plan from last
27:47
year. And when you know, you gave up sixteen points to them and
27:49
then run it, run it back again. Yeah, and when you're only
27:55
like eight or nine wins. Is always really need to keep up people happy,
27:57
and that only needs to app three out of every four years, so
28:00
you know you can do the same thing over and over again at certain programs
28:04
and people will be happy enough. Well, and you go Texas Tech to
28:07
Wazoo to Mississippi State, It's like, what are those three programs having come?
28:11
And they're all like it wins. That's why I thought Illinois was gonna
28:15
be a great fit for him at one point before going to like in there
28:19
somewhere, I thought Illinois would be a good spot. But of course the
28:22
weather there, why would you. I'm not worried about to fits a tackle.
28:30
It's defense them instead of underperformed defensive ends being a concern. It was
28:34
interesting Jim Knowles asked, are you getting the pass rush from your defensive ends?
28:38
You know, are you happy with that? And he's like, yeah,
28:41
we're getting it. We're getting what we need from them. And what
28:44
he said was we're not facing a bunch of pass attempts right now. Another
28:48
thing was that teams are running more on third down to you know, maybe
28:52
keep the clock moving. I'll be interested to go back and see like how
28:55
much our team's running up the third down because that is happening as well.
28:59
We're seeing that all over college football, where you're running more against a nickel
29:03
and a dime look on passing downs and trying to get a seven yard play
29:06
up in the middle, just catch a defense off guard like that is definitely
29:08
happening. I'm wondering if it's happening more against Ohio State than it has in
29:12
the past. We'll go back and do a study and look at that.
29:15
But uh, yeah, this is you might see that this weekend. I
29:22
mean, that's that was one of the things that Mike Leach would sometimes do.
29:25
Like does Mike Leach running backs would always average like nine yards of carry.
29:27
It's because as well, you're you're always defending the pass and so you'll
29:32
hit, you'll you know, you're not gonna run a lot. But it's
29:33
like the inverse of the surface Academy teams that average sixteen yards of pass completion
29:38
like or a pass attempt, they're not doing it, so you're never expecting
29:42
it. So therefore you kind of get the curveball and then bam. So
29:45
yeah, that's that's And real quick on Davis Nagnolson, because you've mentioned him
29:49
real quickly, Jim Knowles has asked about you know, do you like him
29:53
playing physical and and and you know his physical abilities both in past coverage and
30:00
run coverage, and he's a yet, because teams will look at a corner
30:03
and design runs to get to a corner. When you have a guy who
30:04
is a willing tackler and miss physical, as Davis nick noson, maybe you're
30:08
not going to do that. Ryan Johns got about Garrett Wilson's catch last night.
30:14
How about Garrett Wilson's catch last night? That was as amazing and unsurprising
30:19
at catch as I've ever seen from somebody that was I was not watching the
30:22
game, unsurprisingly, but I happen to have my Twitter timeline open, and
30:27
it was just every single person I know just typing Garrett Wilson in all caps
30:32
with like four exclamation points. I was like, well, I assume that's
30:36
good. Something happened. Yeah, that the video was a little little tip
30:41
drill to himself. Worked out, worked out just fine. So it looked
30:44
like an adult playing against children. That's that's the kind of thing you do
30:47
with with that, you're just messing around with people like at that point,
30:51
and he's messing around with some NFL dudes. It's just too bad that I
30:53
wanted to see what he could do with Aaron Rodgers to see it. You
30:56
know, is this a fifteen hundred yard guy. You know now, is
31:00
this a seven hundred and fifty yard guy? Wait till it. Get Tom
31:03
Brady in there. We'll find out together. What's pretty five doing. We
31:10
need our d ends to have Saturday to feel good? How many sacks do
31:14
you need to have the dns have to feel good. I don't know that
31:17
there's a number I'd put on it, because Western Kentucky is a team where
31:22
they're going to spend a lot of time. Just get the ball out,
31:25
Get the ball out. But you know where you don't have. You're getting
31:26
the ball out in one and a half seconds or whatever it is, and
31:29
that doesn't give you time. So it's more can the defensive ends impact the
31:33
passing and can they get their hands up in the in the throwing lanes?
31:37
Because one of the things Knowles talked about was the defensive ends and the defensive
31:42
backs, you know, the pass rush and the coverage working together. Where
31:48
if the defensive ends, if if the coverage is good, that forces the
31:52
quarterback to hold the ball longer, which gives the defensive run line and the
31:55
pass rush more time to get there. And if the pass rush gets there,
31:59
that helps the defense. It helps the coverage, not have to cover
32:00
as long. It's a very very symbiotic relationship. And so you know,
32:07
I'm not expecting huge sack numbers this weekend. Probably neither in mind, just
32:14
because whenever we see teams face Ohio State, they try to get rid of
32:17
the ball as quickly responsible to these passing teams, and so you know,
32:21
it's like, why aren't they getting to the quarterback, and it's because the
32:23
ball is coming out. Now. When they do hold the ball and they're
32:27
trying to dial something up deep, you know, they do need to affect
32:30
the situation there, although at those times there may be extra protection to keep
32:35
that from happening. But in terms of looking at a number of sacks,
32:37
remember some of these sacks could be forced by a defensive en chasing the quarterback
32:43
up into the pocket into a defensive tackle, or a linebacker cleans it up
32:46
like that. So I don't think you can just look at the stat sheet
32:50
for to see how well they played. But Jim Knowles did seem confident,
32:53
that's or you know, I don't even know it was confident, but he's
32:57
like we'll find out this week in terms of how well they're rushing the pastor
33:00
because they're gonna get plenty of opportunities. And it's one of those things where
33:04
you do you we've seen before where because they're getting rid of the ball so
33:07
quickly, the effort kind of lags because it's like, what's the point,
33:10
I'm not gonna get there. I'm just gonna stay back and try to knock
33:13
it down something like that. Yeah, and then those are the ones where
33:15
you dial it up. You're like, shoot, I should have should have
33:17
gone all out well, and Knowles talked about the fact that you have to
33:22
look at you know, in terms of dialing up pressure, you have to
33:25
look at what you've done in the past, and then you're trying to mix
33:29
it up because you don't want to be predictable and you don't want to you
33:30
know, hey, we always blitz on third and seven or whatever. You
33:35
have to be look at what you've done in the past, and you have
33:37
to throw pressure at guys, and that a lot of times this is sort
33:39
of in the context of like bringing an extra rush or bring bring a guy
33:43
off the corner, bringing a lineback or whatever, doing it at a time
33:46
when they're not expecting it. You don't want to do it in the obvious
33:50
situation, because then that's when you've got extra guys and you want to be
33:52
the team that has you know, when they're in max protect, you're rushing
33:57
three and you've got you know, eight guys dropped, and when they are
34:00
trying to do something where they aren't feeling they need extra protection, that's when
34:05
you bring the you know, bring the guy in the extra pressure. Last
34:08
three questions are all kind of the same topic, just to approach it from
34:12
different ways. So we're going to hit all three of them and you can
34:15
just talk on it and then we'll call it. Darren talks Paul. This
34:17
is exactly what they needed to do. Dragging this further talking about the quarterback
34:22
decision into the season was only going to diminish McCord's confidence. Mozart's ghost comes
34:27
in, says I still think Brown showed us some of his potential. Kyle's
34:30
further along on his track right now, and Amos Automotive Paint in restoration said
34:36
McCord will play subpar against Sutter Dame and get bitched Devin Brown. I mean,
34:42
okay, so in order, Yes, this was the time that they
34:45
needed to make this move, because you need to give you need to give
34:49
coliccord some time. You know, I think I don't think anyone in the
34:52
building is giving up on Devin Brown. Devin Brown was, Devin Brown just
34:57
has not been as consistent as kylemiccord. And there's lots of for that.
35:00
And you know, I think Devin Brown still has a chance to be a
35:04
starter at Ohio State. He could be very well be the starter this time
35:07
next year. Kyle McCord getting benchhit Notre Dame. I mean, how badly
35:12
would you have to play to get bench shit Notre Dame? After you came
35:15
out of the Fall Camp with Kyle McCord seemingly ahead enough, and then you
35:23
saw the first two games and Kyle McCord was better in both of those games.
35:28
And you know, I'm sure that you'll have people telling you well that
35:30
the Indiana game wasn't a reasonable sample for Devon Brown. So okay, that's
35:32
fine. So only Fall Camp and the one game where you saw both of
35:36
them in an Apple's apple situation, I mean, unless you're throwing five picks,
35:40
I don't know what you're going to do that makes you go, I
35:45
know what's going to fix this? The guy who we didn't view as a
35:46
consistent as Kyle McCord two weeks ago. Yeah, my number was three,
35:51
with the third one coming like out of the gate of the third quarter,
35:53
and it's like, Okay, we can't keep doing this. But it also
35:57
depends on what kind of interceptions they are. Are they bad interceptions or they
36:00
tipped interceptions where you know that doesn't count against a quarterback. So I'm not
36:07
expecting he may not play well. I'm not expecting him to be benched at
36:10
this point. You're you're with him now. And in terms of the impact
36:16
that this has had, I don't. It's only had an impact on what
36:20
they've done the first two games. And they didn't need to know to you
36:24
know, they they were fine getting through Indiana and Youngstown State. Did they
36:29
look outstanding? No? Did they need to? Obviously not. They didn't
36:31
need to. So you found out what you needed to find out, and
36:35
now you move on and this is did you need to know everything by Youngstown
36:39
State? No? Youngstown State was where you could figure answer every last question
36:44
that you needed, or at least you know, this is when we're gonna
36:47
just everything's gonna be set following that answer. That's where they are and now
36:52
you move forward, and they will, and you would expect things to continue
36:54
to tick up. And yeah, the competition is going to be getting better,
36:59
so there's going to be more difficult defenses. So if there's some struggling,
37:04
you know, it's as I say, it's not easy to pick up
37:07
first downs, right, and you know, you're playing pretty good competition.
37:09
You're going on the road to play Notre Dame. And this Notre Dame team
37:13
does look different than previous Notre Dame teams in some ways, just like Texas
37:16
looks a little bit different than previous Texas teams, you know, And on
37:20
the defensive line, for example, it's this, you know, I think
37:25
if they lose the Notre Dame game, it would be super great if everyone
37:29
could not climb up on the roof and threatened to jump off like they have
37:34
lost games early in seasons before. That is a thing that has happened,
37:37
and sometimes those seasons end up pretty okay. They in fact, won a
37:40
national championship during a year when they look like booty cheeks against Notre Dame,
37:45
against Navy and West or Virginia Tech in the first two weeks of the season,
37:50
and then guess what, young teams develop and come together and improve,
37:54
and so one early loss no longer eliminates you from the national champship. Prace,
38:00
So consider, consider the fact that you've just spent nine months desperately waiting
38:06
not you can particularly desperately waiting for college football season. You don't have to
38:10
be You can choose to not be miserable. You can choose to be a
38:14
little bit patient with this stuff because this is college football is and has always
38:17
been a developmental sport. The teams that come out Week one like a house
38:22
of fire are not always the ones that look great in November. If you
38:27
were old enough to remember the nineteen nineties, you remember some teams that came
38:30
out seventy to seven, seventy two to nothing, and in fact one on
38:36
the road at Notre Dame, and then you know, it's not it's not
38:39
where you start, it's where you finish, and they just you know,
38:42
they have to do well enough to stay in the national Championship price. And
38:45
then you see where things are in November. But my advice, Tony would
38:47
be too, perhaps enjoy the ride, because life, I just to quite
38:52
a phrase, life, it's not just about the journey. No, no,
38:55
no, life is about the journey, not the destination. Sorry,
38:59
so I did make that up right there. So that's why workshop. As
39:04
Jim Trustle used to say, September is for pretenders, November is for contenders,
39:09
and October there's no treating because fits for candy. Yeah. I'm with
39:15
your time and like the saying you don't have to get ready. If you
39:19
stay ready, you don't have to get miserable. If you're stay miserable,
39:22
I would not. That's it's not a great way to live. Just enjoy
39:25
college football. You look forward to it and if something bad happens, get
39:29
mad then, like, I don't understand the pre anger. Yeah, it's
39:32
you know, just a little patience, a little like you're allowed, you're
39:36
allowed to enjoy things that are fun. Yeah, this is it's fun and
39:39
bring you joint to your life. We're not saying everything is golden and great
39:43
right now, but there are some decent things going on. But whatever it
39:47
is, it is what it is. Yes, So all right, So
39:51
that will do it for today. We will thank you all for joining us
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