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S2E3 - 'Duel of Two Women' · Dished at Birth

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DANI: How was the homecoming game?
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KARA: I barely watched the football game, but I did see some
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friends who are at Gallaudet now for the interpreting program.
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DANI: Cool.
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KARA: So we hung out.
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There's a bunch of booths there, so you can go, like, buy things.
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DANI: Mm-hmm.
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KARA: And we walked around, and then-
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DANI: What's the Gallaudet mascot?
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KARA: The Bison.
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DANI: Is it cute?
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KARA: He's cute.
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He also signs.
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He has, like, little gloves and he signs.
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DANI: Aw.
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KARA: Yeah, I enjoyed that.
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And then-
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DANI: Ca- Hmm.
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KARA: What?
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DANI: You would think maybe it would be something with opposable thumbs.
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KARA: Like what?
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DANI: Monkey.
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KARA: The Gallaudet Monkeys.
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Are bison native to DC?
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Not to my knowledge.
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DANI: It is kind of a common mascot.
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KARA: Bison?
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: Oh, maybe.
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Yeah, I guess.
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DANI: Or like, I guess I'm thinking of Buffalo, and I… There's a difference?
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KARA: Oh, God, I don't think there is.
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DANI: Gun to my head, the gun would go off.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I'm so sorry.
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KARA: You and I are so coastal elite, it's crazy.
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DANI: But I, I think about mascots a lot because as a surface level bandwagon
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fan, if there is a mascot, I'm more inclined to be involved with it.
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KARA: Did your high school have a mascot?
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DANI: We were the Panthers.
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KARA: Okay, good.
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DANI: Which is like pretty basic, but like solid.
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But our colors were kinda ugly.
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KARA: What were they?
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DANI: Well, they were purple and black, but it was like not a good purple.
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KARA: Oh.
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Mine was the Colts, like the horses.
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DANI: That's really good, I think.
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KARA: That's good.
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I enjoyed it.
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DANI: I feel like there's a lot of stuff there.
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KARA: Yeah.
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I love a horse.
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Ours were, our colors were like red and white mostly.
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Mm. Which is fine.
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What else did I do at Gallaudet?
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I also saw the campus, which is pretty cool.
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It's true what they say about the hallways being really big, and
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the buildings are very accessible.
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And all the doors have little windows that you can poke through
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so you don't have to knock.
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DANI: That's really nice.
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KARA: I went to the pep rally also, and it was cool to see the chants 'cause
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it's not a typical rah rah chant.
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It's usually a drum and then the people signing along with the drum.
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And it's usually like, "Go Bisons, fight, win," whatever, but-
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DANI: Sure.
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Classic.
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KARA: It's like to the tune of the drums.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: So yeah, it was just cool to see all the differences.
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I don't know.
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I never went to any sports games in my college, so I do feel really old-
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DANI: Totally…
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KARA: watching these 19-year-olds dance and cheer for this, uh, team.
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And I was like, wow, I haven't been to a pep rally since I was in high school.
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DANI: Aw.
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I was also made to feel old this weekend.
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At my party that you missed 'cause you were at Gallaudet.
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KARA: 'Cause I was at Gallaudet.
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Also, another thing I noticed with Gallaudet is that it's so small.
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DANI: Mm.
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KARA: And then you-
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DANI: How many students, do you know?
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KARA: Only 1,000 total.
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DANI: Oh, wow.
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KARA: Undergrad and grad.
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DANI: Whoa.
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KARA: It's tiny.
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DANI: That is small.
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KARA: Tiny.
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So I think like all of us fit, fit in the gym.
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And I was reading about how the enrollment has been declining steadily.
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I think it's dropped by like 30% since 2009.
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DANI: Oh, interesting.
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KARA: Yeah.
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And that goes across like all Deaf schools, but especially Gallaudet.
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There's a few reasons.
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One is the passing of the ADA in the '90s-
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DANI: Mm.
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KARA: Where disabled people are now entitled to a good
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education in the public schools.
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DANI: Yes.
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KARA: And they have to provide an interpreter or some sort of access.
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Cochlear implants, and also vaccinations, because a lot of the older Deaf people
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became deaf as children from childhood diseases like meningitis and rubella.
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So that's one reason, and then also rising tuition and things like that.
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So I think that's just why Gallaudet hasn't been doing so well.
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And you can kinda feel it.
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Also, a lot of the programs have been shut down in recent years.
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Math, history, art, media and design were shut down, and this year they
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just, this week they just announced that they're closing the psychology program.
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DANI: Genuinely, what is left?
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KARA: ASL.
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Interpreting.
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DANI: Wait, so then it's like Deaf people aren't gonna go.
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KARA: Right.
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It's so sad, because
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DANI: I- Wait, that's, that is l- so relevant to this episode.
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That's crazy.
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KARA: I know.
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That's why I was thinking about it, 'cause Gallaudet originally was meant
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to be for any Deaf person to go.
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You take any class in ASL, and you can do anything that you want, and
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you can take math, you can do history.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: But the classes are just gonna be in ASL.
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And now that's not the case.
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It's more education-focused.
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I think most graduates end up working in education or social services.
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DANI: Mm-hmm.
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KARA: Which is why closing the psychology program is crazy to me.
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But most work in education, or they do ASL interpreting, or they do audiology or SLP.
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So it just feels very, feels like Gallaudet's just becoming more,
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I don't know, what's the word?
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Like, Deaf-focused, I guess, rather than academic-focused.
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DANI: Mm-hmm.
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KARA: I don't know.
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And I can kinda feel that, just from the lack of people there.
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DANI: Right, from the lack of people, and then I imagine there's more hearing people
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there, if one of the main programs still standing is the interpretation program?
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KARA: To my knowledge, the, most of the undergrads are Deaf.
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DANI: Okay.
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KARA: But then a lot of the-
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DANI: Graduate.
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KARA: Grad students are hearing, 'cause they come in mainly to
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become an interpreter or to become an SLP or an audiologist.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: And by going to Gallaudet, you are gonna get some, some
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exposure, but you also don't have to.
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You can just go to class and go home.
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DANI: Right.
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KARA: Yeah.
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But, um, my friends going there are all studying to be interpreters or have become
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interpreters through the program, and you, you can kind of make of it what you will.
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So I don't know.
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It was just interesting.
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Should we do the episode?
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DANI: Yeah, we should get to the episode, 'cause we have
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to meet your wife for dinner.
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KARA: We do.
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And I don't wanna leave her waiting.
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Episode three, Duel Between Two Women, aired January 21st, 2013.
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It's called that because Natalie and Bay are fighting.
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That's kind of it.
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DANI: You don't really have to think too hard on that one, do you?
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KARA: No, you really don't.
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It's a 1636 painting if you wanna look it up by-
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DANI: Is it cool?
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KARA: It is.
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It's two women fighting.
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DANI: Oh.
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KARA: They're like gladiators.
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DANI: Ooh, love that.
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KARA: Yeah, I liked it.
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DANI: Okay.
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KARA: By Jusepe de Ribera.
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DANI: Oh.
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Man.
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KARA: Oh, man.
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I think that the context is they are fighting over a man.
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DANI: Oh.
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KARA: I know.
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DANI: I'm less interested.
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KARA: I know, me too.
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DANI: I started laughing so hard.
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The, the opening shot of Bay in this episode, 'cause at one point I didn't
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text you back and you sent me a screenshot of Bay standing in front of
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her locker that says, "Hearie Bitch."
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KARA: It starts off at Carlton, and Bay's at school with Emmett, and she is
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continuing to simcom in this Deaf school.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: She is… She pisses me off this whole episode.
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DANI: She's gonna do it forever.
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KARA: She's simcomming about The Scarlet Letter.
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She said, "Well, I looked up the words that are relevant to The Scarlet
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Letter, like hypocrite, so that's good.
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I'm catching up, and I didn't slow down the class once, so yay me."
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And then she goes to her locker, and she sees, "Hearie Bitch" written
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in Sharpie on her blue locker.
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It's kind of funny.
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DANI: It's a, it's a beautiful still.
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I don't wanna advocate for bullying, but it's pretty funny.
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KARA: It's kinda funny.
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And then she grabs a Sharpie and then starts coloring over it.
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DANI: I would leave it.
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I get confused when th- every time this happens in, like, teen media
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where someone, like, writes something mean on their locker and then they're,
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like, embarrassed and they're like, "I gotta cover this up." It's like,
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it's not like people are gonna think you wrote that on your own locker.
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KARA: No.
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And also-
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DANI: Also-
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… KARA: 'Cause Melody comes up later and is like-
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DANI: Yeah…
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KARA: "Why are you defacing property?"
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DANI: Like, immediately.
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It, it makes Bay look so bad, and she doesn't even say the context.
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Melody knows you better than that.
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It's not, like, a random teacher.
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Melody's gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.
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Although-
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KARA: She will.
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DANI: Bay does have some reasonable Melody trauma, and I do get that.
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KARA: That's fair.
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DANI: So, still.
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KARA: I think she just doesn't wanna stir any drama.
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She's just… But she is.
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DANI: It's The Scarlet Letter.
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Leave it for all to see.
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KARA: Exactly.
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That's the A.
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DANI: Yeah, that's her A.
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KARA: Hearie Bitch's A. We meet a new character in this scene also.
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This is the first time we meet him, right?
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DANI: Yes.
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Okay, so I have to apologize, 'cause I was like, "Teo."
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KARA: You got him confused with Noah?
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DANI: Yeah.
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And I think Teo's gone, by the way.
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KARA: Oh, bye, Teo.
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DANI: I don't, I don't think they bring him back.
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Like, I think they just swap him in with Noah and think we won't remember.
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I don't know.
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And you know what?
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It worked, 'cause I was fully, like, combining them in my brain.
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But I forgot I love Noah.
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KARA: Me too.
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DANI: He's so… He's got those, like, expressive eyes.
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He's r- I don't, I was really compelled by him this whole episode.
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KARA: Me too.
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Me too.
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DANI: Especially 'cause he's not being an asshole.
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KARA: He's not.
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DANI: He's not good, but he's trying.
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KARA: He r- he is trying.
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He has good intentions the whole episode.
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DANI: And he's working through some shit.
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So I respect his struggle.
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KARA: Yeah.
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He's played by Max Lloyd-Jones, and when he came on screen,
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my wife said, "Oh, he's cute."
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: And that's really something.
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DANI: It is something.
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And I don't like blonde men, so.
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KARA: Yeah.
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Exactly.
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He's really glowed up too.
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I looked up a re- a recent picture of him.
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He looks really good.
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DANI: What is he doing now?
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KARA: I have no idea.
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DANI: Anything?
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Okay.
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We'll keep-
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KARA: He's British.
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DANI: What?
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KARA: Yeah.
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DANI: Oh my God, it just keeps getting better and better.
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Wow.
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This is huge.
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He's 35 years old?
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KARA: That's nearly our age.
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DANI: I, I know.
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I, I kind of thought he would be younger.
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I don't know why.
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This show came out so long ago.
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I don't know.
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I guess 'cause, um, on my screen he was just 17.
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KARA: Right.
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DANI: He's on, he's in War for the Planet of the Apes.
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Okay, awesome.
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KARA: Okay, Noah.
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Anyway, we meet him for the first time.
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He just walks on screen and goes, "Hey, someone put a note in my locker too."
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DANI: It's not just Bay being targeted.
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KARA: No, it seems like it's all the hearing people in the
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pilot program are being targeted.
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But yeah, Melody comes up while she sees Bay scribbling on the
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locker, and she's like, "So what's that about?" And Bay lies.
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She's like, "Oh, just doodling."
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DANI: What do you think Noah's note said?
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Like, do you think his also said, "Hearie bitch"?
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KARA: Oh, God.
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Dumb blonde.
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And I'm gonna say that because this whole scene, he's speaking only.
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DANI: 'Cause he cannot sign for shit.
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KARA: No.
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DANI: No.
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KARA: And this goes to my theory, again, that straight men can't sign.
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I was at a restaurant in DC yesterday for brunch, and I had my implants off,
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and we were all signing, the four of us.
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And the manager came up and was like, "How do you sign, How is
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everything?" And we tried to show him, and his hands would not move.
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He just had two thumbs up and would not move to do the sign for how.
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He was just, like, standing still, dumbfounded.
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I was like, "It's okay. Just follow along."
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DANI: Wow.
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KARA: Anyway, Bay goes to clean out the locker, and that's the end of that scene.
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Daphne is at home in the guest house with Regina.
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DANI: I'm sorry, that's not the end of that scene.
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KARA: Oh, go on.
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DANI: He says, "Where's a volleyball when you need one?" And Bay, like,
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laughs and is like, "Ha, ha, you heard about that?" And it's like, yeah,
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that's why you were being bullied, 'cause you were literally violent.
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KARA: 'Cause you were bullying someone else.
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DANI: Yeah.
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So it's fine.
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It's not fine, but we do have to move on from it, 'cause I
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actually can't get into it again.
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KARA: We are now at the guest house with Daphne, and she
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is with Regina and Adrianna.
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And Daphne's explaining that some of the Deaf kids don't like the pilot program.
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And Regina's like, "Okay, cool, cool, cool. I need to talk to
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both of you about something."
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DANI: She kind of has the worst timing this whole episode.
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That would not be the moment I chose.
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KARA: I don't like her this episode, nor Bay, so like
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mother like daughter, I guess.
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DANI: I guess so.
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KARA: Yeah.
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Not, not a fan.
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But she's like, "It's about Angelo. He's gonna be a dad again."
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And Daphne pr- assumes that Regina's pregnant?
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DANI: Crazy.
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I guess not.
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KARA: Is it that crazy?
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DANI: I guess just from an age perspective.
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KARA: Sure.
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DANI: But actually, we don't know how old Regina is.
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KARA: 40s?
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Really?
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DANI: Like, may- like, I would assume, but we don't know.
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KARA: No.
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Constance Marie looks great.
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DANI: Yeah.
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KARA: So.
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DANI: She could've been a younger mom, I guess.
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KARA: Yeah, it's really never said.
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By the… But Regina's like, "No, he got someone else pregnant."
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DANI: But they were definitely sleeping together, so it's not that out there.
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KARA: No.
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And Adrianna the whole time is like, "Yeah, that sounds right. Typical Angelo."
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DANI: It was fun that she was like, "I'm gonna go watch my telenovela,"
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and Regina was like, "No, no, no, I have one for you right here."
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KARA: Barely any signing here.
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One, because Regina still has that wrist brace on, which we'll talk
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about the rest of the episode, but Adrianna's barely signing too.
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Poor Daphne.
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DANI: She has never been one to do more than a couple of words, I feel.
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KARA: That's true.
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DANI: But I do feel really, like, yeah, poor fucking Daphne.
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KARA: Yeah.
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DANI: She's being isolated in her home.
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KARA: Usually it's a poor Bay episode, but this one is a poor Daphne episode.
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Regina does say at one point about Angelo, like, "I don't know, I thought
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he changed." Why'd you think that?
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DANI: And, and what-
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KARA: And what proof?
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DANI: Made you think that?
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The half a million dollars?
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KARA: Half a million?
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DANI: Five million?
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KARA: Yeah, five million.
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DANI: Well, it's probably-
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KARA: Which is now half a million now.
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DANI: He's probably down to half a mil.
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The house, the eco-pool.
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What, at what point- Like, what behavior- … did you say,
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"I'm back on this guy's side"?
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KARA: What behavior did he do to make you think that he has grown and matured?
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Nothing.
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Okay.
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But Daphne's like, "I'm gonna be a parentified child. You and I, let's
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go to a day spa this weekend, on me."
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DANI: Her framing it, too, as she's like, "And Angelo can pay for it,
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'cause I'm gonna pay for it with the money that I made through my hard
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work at the food truck he bought me."
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KARA: You worked for that money.
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You worked-
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DANI: That's your money … that's your money.
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KARA: That's not Angelo's.
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DANI: And in fact, you should
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bill it to Angelo, for real.
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KARA: Literally.
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DANI: Anyway, she's so Rory Gilmore.
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Poor Daphne.
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KARA: Ugh.
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We were like, "Why is she taking care of Regina? Stop
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that." Regina doesn't even work.
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She can book the spa.
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DANI: I know.
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It did make me want to go to a day spa, though.
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It's like, I was like, "We should have an Angelo-free day."
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KARA: I'm going to Bathhouse on Halloween.
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DANI: Nice.
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Just like-
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KARA: Which I just realized is w- warmed by Bitcoin.
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DANI: What?
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KARA: Like, um, the-
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DANI: No, don't tell me some information that's about to piss me off.
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I like it there.
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No, what?
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KARA: The heat is generated by Bitcoin.
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DANI: How is that possible?
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KARA: I don't know, but look it up.
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DANI: No, you're a person in STEM.
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How is that possible?
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Explain it to me.
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KARA: I truly don't get it, and I've watched so many YouTube videos
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and I've read so many articles, and that's how they advertise it,
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like the heat in the sauna, and-
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DANI: Like a sustainable thing?
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KARA: It's a sustainability thing but it's not really that sustainable.
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DANI: We're repurposing heat that would otherwise be generated?
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KARA: I guess, but then they also make a profit from the
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Bitcoin, so it's very confusing.
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But we're going to b- the Bitcoin spa.
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DANI: The Bitcoin bathhouse?
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KARA: The Bitcoin bathhouse.
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DANI: Okay.
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Okay.
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Moving on.
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KARA: Now we're at the Kennish house with John and Kathryn.
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They're with some guy named Ivan, who I think is probably the PR guy?
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DANI: I think he's, like, his campaign manager.
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KARA: Yeah, something like that.
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DANI: Or whatever, yeah.
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KARA: Yeah.
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DANI: I don't really care about John's campaign yet.
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I know that they wanted to give him a little storyline.
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There was enough else going on in this episode that I was like, yeah, we get it,
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Kathryn's about to go too woke for you.
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You guys are gonna fight.
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Whatever.
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KARA: We can actually do this whole plot now.
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DANI: Yeah, let's wrap it up, 'cause they don't interact with anyone else.
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KARA: No, it's just the two of them.
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DANI: And they should be interacting with other people.
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All three of their kids are in bad situations this episode.
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KARA: No, really-
15:23
DANI: They should be checking in folks.
15:23
KARA: When Bay is like, "I have to do the retreat," they're
15:25
like, "Nothing's going on?
15:27
All right."
15:28
DANI: Sounds good.
15:28
We believe you.
15:29
Okay.
15:30
KARA: Yeah, that was strange.
15:32
But anyway, they're talking about John is going on a radio show.
15:35
DANI: Yeah.
15:36
KARA: John and Kathryn.
15:37
They're gonna talk on a radio show.
15:39
DANI: And the Kathryn portion is just share a recipe.
15:42
KARA: 'Cause she's a Repub-
15:43
DANI: Because she's a wife.
15:44
KARA: She's a Republican housewife.
15:45
DANI: Right.
15:46
KARA: Yeah, tradwife.
15:47
DANI: Yeah, they, they do a lot of, "We are proud members of the GOP."
15:52
KARA: Yeah
15:52
… DANI: this episode.
15:54
KARA: So they're talking about the radio show, and John's like,
15:57
"I don't know, I wanna talk about something more of substance."
15:59
And Ivan's like, "No, just talk about how good you are at baseball."
16:04
DANI: Yeah.
16:04
KARA: "Republicans love baseball."
16:06
DANI: Yeah.
16:06
KARA: "Just do baseball."
16:08
DANI: He's like, "You're famous. You do nothing problematic, and you win."
16:12
KARA: Yeah.
16:13
"Just get elected. That's all that matters." And Kathryn's like, "Well,
16:16
that sucks. Okay." Mid-conversation, Toby comes up to ask to borrow the car
16:21
because his car is at the auto shop.
16:23
And this is something we need to know for later.
16:24
DANI: Mm-hmm.
16:25
KARA: Great.
16:26
Okay.
16:26
Then the radio show happens.
16:28
Kathryn is giving the radio show host pork chops.
16:31
I think it's crazy that she's eating on microphone, but okay.
16:34
DANI: Yeah, it's, it's a no, very 2013 again, it's no cameras, audio only.
16:40
Kind of like us, aw.
16:41
KARA: Yeah.
16:41
DANI: But what we're doing is brave in 2026.
16:44
KARA: It's true.
16:45
DANI: And the thing that she served was pork chops-
16:48
KARA: With a salsa, a corn
16:50
DANI: salsa … black bean-
16:51
KARA: Yeah
16:51
… DANI: black beans and salsa.
16:52
KARA: Yeah.
16:53
And the host is like, "Mm, mm, delicious."
16:55
DANI: Yeah.
16:55
KARA: "Where'd you get this recipe?" And Kathryn's like, "Well,
16:59
I got it from John's coworker who is a Guatemalan immigrant."
17:04
DANI: I think she's lying.
17:05
KARA: Oh.
17:07
DANI: Not that it matters, like, I truly don't, I don't think we'll ever come
17:09
back to it, but she, like, you watch her be like, "Where did I get this recipe?"
17:14
And then be like, "You know what?
17:16
I'm gonna say this." I don't know.
17:19
KARA: I don't think she's lying, but I think she got the country wrong.
17:21
DANI: Yeah.
17:22
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised about that either.
17:24
Yeah.
17:24
She, 'cause she said, "I think." She was like, "I think it's, I think it's
17:28
a Guatemalan ins- " I think she says Guatemalan-inspired or something.
17:32
KARA: I don't know.
17:33
DANI: It was odd.
17:33
KARA: Yeah.
17:34
DANI: The fram- the framing of it was odd.
17:36
KARA: But anyway, after that she goes, "And he came from Guatemala, and he
17:40
worked his way up. And, um, we love legal immigration, and we should find ways for
17:46
everyone to come to the country legally because that's what America is for."
17:50
DANI: Yeah.
17:50
KARA: And then the host is like, "Okay." Cool.
17:53
And then after she gets reprimanded by John.
17:55
DANI: Yeah, John comes in and he says that Ivan told him he needs
17:59
to, quote, "Rein in his wife."
18:01
KARA: Yeah, which Kathryn-
18:02
DANI: Which, let's… John, do some filtering.
18:05
You don't need to say verbatim-
18:06
KARA: No.
18:07
DANI: What the shitty PR guy said.
18:08
KARA: You don't.
18:09
DANI: I think that Kathryn's attempts at politicizing the silly
18:13
radio show were clunky at best.
18:16
Like, I think she needs to be better about it-
18:18
KARA: She just needs some practice
18:19
… DANI: if she's gonna do it.
18:20
KARA: Yeah.
18:21
DANI: But yeah.
18:22
I don't know.
18:23
I just, like, don't care.
18:24
KARA: Me neither.
18:25
And that was the end of that plot.
18:26
DANI: Yeah, that's their whole plot.
18:27
Meanwhile-
18:28
KARA: Meanwhile, we're back at Carlton.
18:30
DANI: Yeah.
18:31
KARA: Bay is so embarrassing, because she's sitting outside with Emmett,
18:35
and she's like, "I'm so sick of being bullied for being hearing.
18:38
It's the same as having brown hair and brown eyes. I can't help it."
18:41
DANI: You could help speaking with your voice, like that.
18:45
KARA: Yeah.
18:45
DANI: At this moment in the episode, Paolo walked through the room and
18:48
went, "Why is that girl being so annoying? Is she always like that?"
18:52
KARA: Did you see the sticker she made?
18:54
It says, "We hear, and we're here."
18:57
DANI: Oof.
18:59
KARA: Yeah.
18:59
And she says-
18:59
DANI: Bet she was real proud of herself for that one.
19:01
KARA: No, she was like, "Natalie thinks she can get me with graffiti?
19:05
She doesn't realize she's messing with the wrong girl." And Emmett rightfully
19:09
says, "I don't know if that's gonna help," and he's right, 'cause it looks stupid.
19:13
DANI: Yeah.
19:13
KARA: "We hear and we're here." And then he, he's also like, "I don't know, Bay.
19:18
Like, the last two art classes are getting cut because the school needs to pay for
19:22
an interpreter for you hearing people."
19:24
DANI: Yeah, and then she's sad for, like, one second, and then instead of
19:28
being like, "Hey, maybe I should ask my rich parents to throw a fundraiser
19:32
like they always were doing for Buckner-
19:33
KARA: Literally
19:34
… DANI: so that we can keep our art classes and have interpreters," she's just
19:37
like, "Well, we didn't ask for that." And it's like, well, you kind of did.
19:42
Like, your presence asks for it.
19:44
KARA: You met Teo and Noah.
19:46
DANI: Your struggling in class asks for it.
19:48
KARA: Yes.
19:49
'Cause the school wants to provide you guys with a good
19:51
education like everyone else.
19:53
So they feel like they need to hire an interpreter.
19:55
DANI: I feel like a thing missing from this is also just that we have no
20:00
clarifying info about the pilot program.
20:02
KARA: No, we don't.
20:03
DANI: Like, they still haven't told us why the fuck it exists.
20:06
KARA: They'll go into it later, I think.
20:07
DANI: Yeah.
20:08
KARA: But no, not at the moment, they haven't.
20:10
But it's been hinted that Carlton is struggling, so this is a way to get
20:14
some more money for the school, I think.
20:16
DANI: It seems like-
20:16
KARA: Or more funding
20:17
… DANI: not a choice.
20:18
Let's have some hearing kids go here and pay for their interpreters, and then what?
20:22
KARA: Right, right.
20:22
DANI: You think they'll have more money?
20:24
'Cause Bay's not doing shit.
20:25
KARA: More funding.
20:26
DANI: It's not, this plan isn't working very well.
20:28
KARA: No, it's not.
20:29
Emmett also notices this plan isn't working.
20:32
He goes to his mom and says, "S- there's some bullying going on."
20:37
They're writing notes in the hearing kids' lockers, and Melody is like,
20:40
"That sucks. I hate the pilot program, but I'm not thrilled about this."
20:43
DANI: Yeah.
20:44
I do like that she admits that she's like, "Well, I kind of knew that was
20:47
going on, but I thought if I ignored it, it would just, like, work itself out."
20:50
KARA: Great guidance counselor.
20:52
DANI: She's so me, actually.
20:53
KARA: Yeah.
20:54
And she's like, "Ugh, I gotta do something about this?"
20:57
DANI: Yeah, but then her solution is kind of insane, okay?
21:01
I, I understand that it's television, and so they're like, "Well, this needs
21:04
to happen ASAP," but can you imagine…
21:06
KARA: I'd be furious.
21:08
DANI: It's like midweek, and they're like, "By the way, this weekend,
21:11
cancel your plans. You're coming on an overnight retreat." Again, so-
21:16
KARA: Student tolerance retreat.
21:17
DANI: The school doesn't have money, so I don't know what
21:21
the thought process is here.
21:22
And they post the… It's not everyone going.
21:26
It's not like the whole school.
21:27
They post-
21:28
KARA: It's like 10 or 15 kids.
21:29
DANI: Yeah, they post the list of the names up like it's the
21:32
cast list for the spring musical.
21:34
KARA: No, but instead it's you being required to go.
21:38
It's all the hearing kids.
21:39
DANI: It's the list of shame.
21:41
KARA: The list of shame.
21:42
Literally, it's all the hearing kids plus some of the Deaf kids.
21:45
DANI: Yeah.
21:46
KARA: And Melody later is gonna say, "You were invited because
21:49
you're either a role model for Carlton, or you're a trouble maker."
21:53
DANI: Which literally just Daphne.
21:54
KARA: Yeah, just Daphne's the role model.
21:55
They sh-
21:56
DANI: I guess Emmett.
21:57
KARA: I guess?
21:58
DANI: I guess Melody was like, "Well, you're my kid, so you're coming".
22:00
I don't know.
22:01
KARA: Someone's gotta watch you.
22:02
DANI: Yeah, someone's gotta.
22:04
Lord knows it won't be his dad.
22:06
KARA: Oh, God.
22:06
Yeah, we haven't seen him.
22:08
Yeah.
22:08
Natalie sees the post and, and is like, "Ugh, thanks a lot."
22:11
She signs cry baby to her.
22:13
DANI: Which Bay doesn't get, which I was like, I don't know,
22:15
that looked pretty obvious.
22:16
KARA: Yeah, it's tears in front of your face.
22:18
DANI: Yeah.
22:18
KARA: Very dramatic.
22:19
DANI: And Bay's like, "What?" And Emmett has to finger spell it so slow.
22:23
KARA: So slow.
22:24
DANI: Right in front of Natalie.
22:25
I'm like, yeah, I- you're just proving her point again and again and again.
22:29
KARA: I know.
22:30
Yeah.
22:31
It's the next morning.
22:32
I feel like they posted this on Friday, and now it's Saturday.
22:35
DANI: Yeah.
22:35
KARA: And they have to go.
22:36
But Bay's packing a bag, and John and Kathryn are like, "So you're
22:39
telling me everything's okay at school, and yet you have to go to
22:42
a student tolerance retreat?" And Bay's like, "Yep, everything's cool.
22:46
Everything's great." And they're like, "Okay."
22:48
DANI: "Okay." Her braids looked really good.
22:51
KARA: They, they were cute.
22:51
DANI: Yeah, they were really good.
22:52
KARA: Braids are a good idea for camping-
22:54
DANI: Yeah
22:54
… KARA: if you can't shower.
22:55
Daphne and Bay are packing the car.
22:57
Daphne's pissed, 'cause she was supposed to go to the day spa with her mom.
23:00
DANI: Yeah.
23:01
KARA: And understandably, I'd be pissed too.
23:03
DANI: Yeah, I feel like, I don't know, I feel like it's good that
23:07
Daphne got out of having to take care of Regina for the weekend.
23:10
KARA: No, that, that is true.
23:12
She's also mad at Bay, though, 'cause she's like-
23:14
DANI: Yeah, she's like, "You're being an asshole."
23:16
KARA: "But also, you didn't tell me about Angelo.
23:18
I had to find out from my mom, like, weeks later."
23:21
DANI: I think Bay was fine to do that, I've decided.
23:24
KARA: Oh, really?
23:25
DANI: I don't think it was her place.
23:26
Why did Regina wait so long to tell Daphne?
23:28
KARA: That's true.
23:29
DANI: Once again, Daphne is misdirecting her anger.
23:32
She needs to be more, uh, mad at her mother.
23:34
KARA: That is true.
23:35
She's not even mad at her mom this episode, too.
23:37
DANI: No.
23:37
KARA: She's just more sad.
23:38
DANI: Yeah.
23:39
KARA: It's… Yeah.
23:40
DANI: And she says, like, it… She tell, to Regina, when Regina's like, "Are you
23:44
okay?" She's like, "It doesn't affect me." And then she turns around and says to Bay,
23:48
"I can't believe you wouldn't tell me."
23:49
KARA: Yeah.
23:50
DANI: Which is, which is it?
23:51
KARA: Right.
23:52
She's trying to figure out her feelings.
23:54
Regina says goodbye to Daphne and Bay, and she's like, "Have fun.
23:57
I'm gonna watch Breaking Bad."
23:59
DANI: That was weird.
24:00
KARA: It's 2013.
24:01
DANI: I guess so.
24:02
KARA: Yeah.
24:02
DANI: What channel did Breaking Bad air on?
24:04
KARA: But Daphne's like, "Screw Breaking Bad.
24:06
Come join me, and you can hang, hang out with Melody." And Regina's like, "Sure, I
24:11
have a doctor's appointment for my wrist."
24:13
DANI: Dun, dun, dun.
24:14
KARA: Dun, dun, dun.
24:15
"But after that, I will come join you."
24:17
Great.
24:18
Now, we're at the auto shop.
24:20
Toby is there, I guess, because he had to get his brake pads replaced or something.
24:24
DANI: Okay.
24:25
Sure, he's there.
24:26
KARA: That would suck if he was in a car accident prior
24:28
and then gets into another one.
24:30
The insurance is gonna be so high.
24:32
DANI: I know, and that's a teen boy.
24:34
Yeah, so he's there, and guess who else is there?
24:36
Angelo's baby mama?
24:39
I don't know what to call her.
24:40
KARA: Yeah.
24:40
Lana.
24:41
DANI: I forget her name.
24:41
Lana.
24:42
KARA: Lana.
24:42
DANI: Lana's her name.
24:43
God, she's so beautiful.
24:44
KARA: It's funny 'cause Daphne, in this episode, also is like, "Uh, is she als-
24:48
is she African-American and gorgeous?"
24:50
DANI: Yeah.
24:50
KARA: The same thing Bay said.
24:52
DANI: Yeah.
24:53
Just, like, stunning, stunning girl.
24:54
KARA: No, she's beautiful.
24:56
Lana's car is also not working, and the mechanic is like, "Just walk to the
25:01
bus stop. It'll be good for the baby."
25:03
DANI: "It's so good for pregnant ladies to do that." God.
25:06
Poor Lana.
25:06
KARA: I know.
25:07
DANI: And Toby's like, "Hey."
25:09
KARA: "Hey."
25:10
DANI: "Remember me?"
25:11
KARA: "I don't know if you remember me, but, um- I'm the guy that saw
25:14
you f- fight with Angelo. But, um, I can give you a ride, and I can
25:19
drive you back tomorrow for the car."
25:22
DANI: I feel like at the start of the show, I was like, poor
25:24
Toby's always getting caught in the middle of situations.
25:27
I'm actually seeing now that I feel he's inserting himself.
25:31
KARA: He really didn't have to.
25:32
DANI: He didn't have to do that.
25:33
KARA: Especially at the end, he really didn't have to do that.
25:35
DANI: No.
25:36
KARA: We'll talk about it.
25:37
DANI: Well, I think we should do him, too, 'cause he's separate.
25:40
KARA: Let's do it.
25:41
DANI: So Toby, it, goes on a whole journey this episode.
25:44
KARA: Yeah.
25:45
He drives Lana to where she needs to go.
25:47
DANI: Him and Lana, they, they are, like, this now.
25:49
They are bonded.
25:50
KARA: Bonded for life.
25:51
Trauma bonded for life.
25:52
DANI: Trauma.
25:52
Literally trauma bonded.
25:54
KARA: They're talking in the car about Angelo.
25:56
She's very pregnant.
25:57
That ba- that baby is about to pop.
25:59
DANI: Yeah.
26:00
And she is like… Toby's like, "Ha ha, you're not gonna have that baby
26:03
now, right?" And she's like, "No." But she's doing, like, deep, she's
26:06
going like, "Whoo, whoo, whoo."
26:08
And he is freaked out.
26:10
KARA: And he gets so distracted that he gets into a fender bender.
26:14
DANI: Yeah.
26:14
KARA: He rear-ends another car.
26:15
DANI: I, they were very ABC Family dramatic about the shot of the
26:20
crash 'cause for a second I was like, oh, my God, is this about
26:22
to be a really serious accident?
26:23
KARA: I thought, like-
26:24
DANI: Like, the way they filmed it.
26:25
KARA: I thought it may look like they lost the baby or something.
26:27
DANI: Yeah.
26:28
It made it look crazy.
26:29
KARA: But no, they cut to it, and-
26:31
DANI: It,
26:31
KARA: Just the taillight's broken.
26:32
DANI: Yeah, just the, and the guy's bumper is a little messed up.
26:35
Toby's car is, like, fine.
26:36
No airbags were deployed.
26:38
KARA: Yeah, not a scratch on Toby and Lana.
26:39
DANI: Yeah.
26:40
KARA: Great.
26:40
DANI: She's sitting on the curb, and then they're like, "Let's go
26:43
to the hospital just to be safe."
26:45
KARA: 'Cause she is like, "Ooh, contraction. Ow. Oof."
26:49
DANI: Yeah.
26:50
Which as someone who watches a lot of media featuring pregnant women, everybody
26:53
knows that's just Braxton-Hicks.
26:55
It's a plot, it's a plot device, guys.
26:57
KARA: So- But also, something stressful could-
26:59
DANI: Sure.
26:59
KARA: Induce labor.
27:00
DANI: Sure.
27:01
It's- But not in this case.
27:02
In this case, they go to the hospital.
27:04
KARA: They do.
27:05
They go to the hospital.
27:06
She's gonna get an ultrasound.
27:07
DANI: And she keeps being like, "You don't have to stay," but
27:11
then it's like he's too in it now.
27:13
KARA: But then she also says, "I have no support system.
27:16
I'm far away from my family."
27:17
DANI: Yeah.
27:17
KARA: "Everyone's in Boston, and I haven't told anyone that I'm pregnant."
27:20
DANI: Yeah.
27:20
KARA: "I ha- don't have a single friend."
27:22
DANI: Yeah.
27:22
Apparently, no, no med school friends.
27:24
Nothing.
27:25
And then they're like, "Okay, we're gonna do an ultrasound to be safe." And
27:29
so Toby's like, "I'm gonna give you some privacy 'cause you're pulling off your-"
27:33
KARA: her shirt, yeah.
27:34
DANI: Your stomach's out.
27:34
I don't know.
27:35
Let's, I'm gonna be polite.
27:36
This is an 18-year-old boy.
27:38
And oh, also, they think he's the dad.
27:40
KARA: Right.
27:41
DANI: And both of them are so awkward about saying no.
27:45
KARA: Toby's like, "I, I've-"
27:46
DANI: "I'm, I'm, I don't, I, I ju- we d- we've never…" And she's like, "We're
27:50
friends." That's a weird thing to say.
27:53
I feel like there's, like, a weird tension between Lucas Grabeel and
27:57
every single one of these women.
27:59
And I think, I don't think it's his fault.
28:01
Like, I think he's doing a good job acting, and it's just,
28:03
like, there's weird subtext.
28:04
I don't know.
28:05
I don't know.
28:06
That they keep trying to be, like, Toby's got chemistry with everybody.
28:09
I don't know what it is.
28:11
But-
28:11
KARA: And he doesn't.
28:12
DANI: Just say, like, this is an 18-year-old boy.
28:15
You don't have to be like, "Oh, here's the context." Just be like, no, he's family.
28:20
KARA: Just say no.
28:21
DANI: He's family.
28:22
Whatever.
28:23
KARA: Eh, yeah.
28:23
DANI: He drove me here.
28:24
They don't need anything more than that.
28:26
But anyway, he's trying to leave.
28:28
He's trying to give her space.
28:29
And she's like, "You can stay if you want."
28:31
KARA: Yeah.
28:31
DANI: Girl, why would you say that?
28:33
KARA: And he's like, "Okay."
28:34
DANI: Right.
28:34
And then it's like, now it's weird if he leaves, even though he clearly wants to.
28:38
KARA: Yeah.
28:38
DANI: So he stays, and he's looking.
28:41
And the ultrasound tech cannot fucking read a room.
28:44
She's like, "Wow, would you look at that? How amazing," when you
28:48
know this guy's not the dad and just was trying to leave the room.
28:51
And then Lana fully turned away, her face turned away, looking the other way.
28:55
KARA: She doesn't want to look.
28:56
DANI: Maybe if we read some context, we see a pregnant woman who's, like,
29:00
not super visibly relieved when they say the baby's probably fine, is
29:04
not super excited to get an extra peek at the fetus she's carrying.
29:09
Maybe we say, huh, okay, maybe there's an added layer here.
29:12
Maybe I don't have to lay on the whole… Like-
29:15
KARA: Yeah
29:15
… DANI: if a pregnant person is like, wants to do the whole, wow, that's
29:19
amazing, that's a beautiful thing, trust that they're gonna do it on their own.
29:22
You don't have to do it for them.
29:23
KARA: I agree.
29:24
DANI: And so then Toby's like, "What's up with that?"
29:27
And she's like, "Well, I don't look at the screen 'cause it makes it harder, 'cause
29:30
I'm gonna give her up for adoption."
29:32
KARA: And Toby is like, "Oh, great. Now I'm saddled with more information
29:35
that I don't need to know."
29:37
DANI: Also, do we think Angelo knows this?
29:40
KARA: No.
29:41
DANI: She says it so matter of fact.
29:43
I wonder, I don't know.
29:45
I- I'm like, is that a manipulation tactic?
29:47
Like, why would you say, I, it, I don't- I just- If he doesn't know,
29:50
don't say that to the 18-year-old boy.
29:52
And if he does know.
29:54
I don't know.
29:55
KARA: But in the car she was like, "I don't want to burden Angelo
29:58
with anything." So I just feel like he doesn't know anything.
30:00
DANI: I'm sure we'll find out next episode, guys, but-
30:03
KARA: The baby's fine.
30:03
DANI: Baby's fine.
30:04
KARA: That scene is over, and then it's the next day.
30:06
DANI: Yeah.
30:07
KARA: He drives her back to the auto shop so she can get the car, get her car.
30:11
DANI: Yeah.
30:11
He's still involved.
30:12
He's getting deeper and deeper.
30:14
KARA: Yeah.
30:14
DANI: And he can't help himself.
30:15
He says, "Hey, she does have a family."
30:19
KARA: The baby.
30:19
DANI: The baby that you're thinking of giving up for adoption,
30:22
'cause she has my sister, Bay.
30:24
Do we think he talked to Bay about this?
30:26
No.
30:26
KARA: No.
30:27
DANI: Maybe check with Bay before, you know.
30:30
He's like, "She has Bay."
30:32
KARA: Talk to an adult.
30:33
DANI: "And my parents also." Maybe they should all meet her
30:36
before you decide anything.
30:38
I don't know.
30:39
Let's leave this poor woman alone.
30:41
KARA: You're not the one who's pregnant.
30:42
Stay out of it.
30:44
DANI: Both the child and the woman, I want them in separate spaces,
30:47
separate safe spaces by themselves.
30:49
Away from this situation.
30:51
Yeah.
30:52
KARA: That's a lot to handle.
30:54
DANI: And that's the end- that's what Toby's up to this whole episode.
30:56
Toby's getting deeper and deeper involved in this Lana situation.
30:59
KARA: In like the Angelo and Lana situation.
31:01
DANI: Yeah.
31:01
He's very invested in the fate of this baby for some reason.
31:05
Back to our core two, our girls.
31:07
KARA: Our girls.
31:08
We're at the retreat.
31:09
It's retreat time.
31:10
We're going to camp.
31:12
Emmett is with Daphne.
31:13
They're walking and he's like, "Hey, can you cover for me if Bay and I walk
31:18
away?" And Daphne's like, "Okay, sure.
31:21
Have fun."
31:22
DANI: So she's like, "Oh, so you get some time together." But what she signs is-
31:27
KARA: Is like making love.
31:28
DANI: Yeah.
31:29
KARA: Ew.
31:30
That's your sister.
31:30
DANI: She signs making love time, I think, right?
31:32
I was like, whoa, those, those captions are real tame compared-
31:36
KARA: Yeah
31:36
… DANI: to what she said.
31:37
I know, that's your sister.
31:38
Icky.
31:39
KARA: I know.
31:40
DANI: But yeah.
31:41
KARA: All right.
31:41
Whatever.
31:42
Um, Noah is walking with Bay, and then all of a sudden he takes such
31:45
a dramatic fall to the ground.
31:47
DANI: It is quite dramatic.
31:48
KARA: Yeah.
31:49
And Bay's like, "Oh, no, what's wrong?" And he goes, "I have Ménière's disease."
31:52
DANI: Yeah.
31:53
KARA: Which is what Katie Leclerc has in real life.
31:55
DANI: Yeah.
31:56
KARA: Yeah.
31:57
And it's a condition where you have a lot of dizzy spells, you lose your hearing,
32:01
um, you have balance issues, and actually Max Lloyd-Jones has this in real life.
32:06
DANI: Oh, I didn't know that.
32:07
KARA: I know.
32:08
Awesome.
32:08
DANI: Yeah.
32:09
KARA: That they actually hired someone who has it.
32:10
DANI: Representation.
32:11
KARA: "And that's why I'm here at Carlton, 'cause I'm losing my hearing, and my
32:14
parents thought it'd be a good idea to get a head start on the whole hand thing."
32:19
DANI: So what bums me out about this is that he then goes on, Bay says, "I
32:23
thought you were here 'cause you had Deaf relatives," and he goes on to say-
32:26
KARA: I do.
32:26
DANI: "Yes. My, my uncle also has Ménière's disease and he is Deaf."
32:30
So w- is there, has there just been like no effort for the uncle?
32:34
KARA: M- yeah.
32:35
My question was, so does the family sign for your uncle and you,
32:38
maybe you just didn't learn yet?
32:40
DANI: I think the answer is no.
32:42
KARA: Right.
32:43
Maybe they were like, "Well, perhaps the uncle is struggling and maybe the
32:46
hand thing would be good for you."
32:48
I don't know.
32:49
DANI: Yeah.
32:50
KARA: But Bay's like, "You should tell people. Maybe there'll be more
32:52
understanding about why you're here, and you're not just some hearing guy."
32:56
DANI: Yeah.
32:57
KARA: You're hard of hearing.
32:58
And he's like, "No, no, I don't wanna."
33:00
DANI: Yeah, that's so true, 'cause he discloses that he's already lost
33:03
60% of his hearing in his right ear.
33:05
KARA: He's hard of hearing now.
33:07
DANI: He's a hard of hearing individual.
33:07
KARA: Hard of hearing king.
33:08
DANI: Yeah.
33:09
But you know, denial is-
33:11
KARA: Yeah
33:11
… DANI: strong.
33:12
KARA: And then yeah, Noah's like, "I'm okay.
33:14
I don't really wanna talk about it." And Bay's like, "Well,
33:17
actually, let's make this about me."
33:18
DANI: I, yeah, was torn between being like… 'Cause he's
33:22
like, "It's just so hard.
33:23
I mean, one day you're fine and then the next day your life changes." And
33:26
she's like, "Boy, do I know about that.
33:29
Let me talk about me for a second." But then at the same time, I'm like, I don't
33:33
know, he di- he clearly was done talking.
33:35
KARA: It seems like he liked the distraction, but also it was a
33:38
little crazy, 'cause that's such a s- you can't one-up that story.
33:42
DANI: Yeah, those are two, yeah, very different things.
33:44
Let's not, let's not compare.
33:46
KARA: And again, the two of them are chatting, talking only.
33:49
This should be a signing only weekend.
33:51
Melody should have a gun to all their heads.
33:53
Emmett does see them chatting from afar, and he makes a little jealous face.
33:56
DANI: He's feeling sensitive.
33:58
KARA: Now they have to do an activity.
34:00
Melody has them assigned an activity for them.
34:02
There's an object under the tarp that's made of like sticks and rocks, and they
34:06
have to somehow communicate to the other half of their team what's under the rocks,
34:11
and then they have to build it themselves.
34:13
It's all about communication and team building.
34:15
DANI: Sure.
34:15
KARA: Whatever.
34:16
Thanks, Melody.
34:17
And she does emphasize they only, they can only sign.
34:21
DANI: Mm-hmm.
34:22
KARA: Thank you.
34:22
So we'll see what happens with that.
34:24
DANI: Bay's breaking the rules.
34:26
KARA: Simcomming!
34:27
DANI: Not fucking following the rules, and I just feel like it's
34:32
m- irresponsible to s- throw… Noah's been thrown to the sharks.
34:37
He couldn't have… I don't know, send him to like an intensive crash
34:41
course for beginners in sign language before you send him to the Deaf school.
34:45
KARA: Where he gets bullied.
34:46
DANI: 'Cause he has no base.
34:49
KARA: Nothing.
34:50
DANI: Nothing.
34:51
KARA: I know.
34:52
DANI: Like, I feel bad for him.
34:53
KARA: Me too.
34:54
DANI: But I don't feel bad for Bay.
34:55
Get it together, Bay.
34:56
KARA: Me too.
34:57
While this is happening, Regina's at the doctor for her wrist, and she's like,
35:01
"Ugh, I can't wait to take off this wrist brace finally." And the doctor's
35:05
like, "Yeah, that's not happening 'cause you have osteonecrosis in your wrist."
35:10
DANI: Necrosis is, was a crazy word to hear.
35:12
KARA: Yeah.
35:13
I was like, oh, death, okay.
35:15
DANI: Yeah.
35:15
KARA: You can't sign, paint, or cut hair ever again at
35:18
the risk of damaging it more.
35:21
And I know they're doing this because Constance Marie, the
35:23
character, could not do any of that-
35:26
DANI: Yeah
35:26
… KARA: because she had severe tendonitis in her wrist, but that is, that's wild.
35:30
DANI: It's a really intense storyline to go with.
35:33
KARA: You can't sign ever again with your Deaf daughter?
35:36
All right.
35:36
We'll get to this later.
35:38
DANI: Yeah.
35:38
KARA: 'Cause Daphne and Melody are gonna find out, but oh my God.
35:41
It's just- I, I, I hate it.
35:43
DANI: Yeah.
35:44
I'm gonna cut it, but I almo- I almost feel like they should've
35:46
recast Constance when this came up.
35:49
KARA: Is there a way where she could have just someone else's hand and sign?
35:54
So she-
35:54
DANI: Like, kind of, yeah.
35:56
I don't know.
35:57
Genuinely, I don't know.
35:59
KARA: Like, she can have her head, but you don't need to see the elbow.
36:02
You just need to see a hand.
36:03
DANI: Just a hand.
36:04
I mean, with the way that Switched at Birth loves to use all kinds of
36:07
funny angles with signing anyway, I feel like they could have doctored it.
36:11
KARA: I really think they could have.
36:13
DANI: Yeah.
36:13
It just does, it does so much, it shapes so much of Regina's further downfall as
36:20
a mother figure, I feel, in the show.
36:23
KARA: Yeah.
36:24
DANI: Because she doesn't address it very well in this episode.
36:28
KARA: No.
36:28
DANI: And yeah, I mean, obviously that's a terrible thing for the
36:32
character to be experiencing.
36:34
KARA: Yes.
36:35
DANI: But it makes me feel like I'm in my hater bag for real, but…
36:39
And I am sorry to Constance.
36:41
Yeah, I like your idea.
36:42
They should have hired hands to come in and be her hands.
36:45
KARA: Y- yeah.
36:46
Every time Regina signs, just-
36:48
DANI: Just, just-
36:49
… KARA: show hands
36:49
… DANI: she wa- it's not like she was doing that much-
36:52
KARA: No
36:52
… DANI: before.
36:53
It's tough.
36:53
KARA: We're at the retreat.
36:55
Uh, Emmett has to describe the thing on the ground to Bay and Natalie,
36:59
and then Bay and Natalie have to build whatever Emmett is describing.
37:03
DANI: Yes.
37:03
KARA: Um, but Bay is distracted because Noah's in the distance looking sickly.
37:07
DANI: Bay, now that she knows his, like, secret, is like,
37:10
"Well, I'm your caretaker," which I think would piss me off.
37:15
KARA: Yeah.
37:16
M- like, leave me alone.
37:17
DANI: Yeah.
37:18
I'm good.
37:18
KARA: I can take care of myself.
37:19
DANI: Noah doesn't seem that bothered by it, but I don't know.
37:22
I was kind of like, Bay, okay.
37:24
I- Yeah.
37:25
It was, it was sort of giving, like, when you're in middle school and your
37:28
friend, like, something happened to your friend, and so they're crying, and
37:31
you're, like, the only one who knows.
37:33
And then someone else is like, "What's wrong with them?" And
37:35
you're like, "Only I know about it, and you can't ask about it."
37:38
KARA: Yeah.
37:39
DANI: Like, she's having a really hard day.
37:40
It's private.
37:41
That was kind of what Bay was giving.
37:43
KARA: And you feel kind of prideful that you're the only one who knows.
37:45
DANI: Exactly.
37:46
KARA: Yeah.
37:47
DANI: That's sort of how she was being with Emmett, and it's like, to Emmett?
37:50
Come on.
37:51
KARA: Yeah, 'cause Emmett asks, "Why are you so obsessed with
37:54
her, Em- obsessed with him?"
37:55
And Bay's like, "You can't know. Only I know."
37:58
DANI: Yeah.
37:59
She's like, "He's having a really hard day.
38:01
He's not feeling well." And Emmett's like, "Then he should tell my mom." And
38:05
she's like, "No, it's not like that."
38:07
KARA: You wouldn't get it.
38:07
DANI: "You wouldn't understand." Oh my God.
38:09
I don't know.
38:10
Like, also later on, he's gonna be like, "What is your deal?"
38:14
And it's like, yeah, Bay, I don't know, you transferred into his school.
38:16
You caused all kinds of drama.
38:18
You made all of his friends have beef with you, and then you made him have to
38:22
navigate between you and your friends.
38:24
KARA: Yeah.
38:25
DANI: And then you're like, okay, now this random hearing guy, you actually can't
38:28
know about what's going on with that.
38:30
Sorry.
38:31
KARA: And I clearly like him.
38:32
DANI: Yeah.
38:33
And look, who wouldn't?
38:34
He's got dreamy eyes just like Emmett.
38:36
KARA: He's cute.
38:37
DANI: Yeah.
38:37
KARA: Yeah.
38:37
I wrote "Bay stop speaking challenge: impossible."
38:40
DANI: Yeah.
38:41
KARA: She's simcomming the whole time during this exchange.
38:43
DANI: Even with Emmett.
38:44
Shut up, girl.
38:47
KARA: He can't-
38:47
DANI: Shut up.
38:47
KARA: He can't hear you.
38:48
DANI: No.
38:49
KARA: Natalie can't hear you.
38:50
Daphne can't- Melody.
38:52
I…
38:52
DANI: Yeah.
38:53
KARA: Shut up.
38:54
We're still at the retreat, it's nighttime.
38:56
Melody checks in with the kids and is like, "So, how did the day go?"
39:00
DANI: Bad.
39:01
KARA: Yeah, everyone's like, "Bad." Natalie's like, "Fine, if
39:04
you're okay with crappy signing."
39:06
DANI: Tea.
39:06
KARA: Yeah.
39:07
And Bay's like, "May-" This was a crazy line.
39:10
She says, "Maybe try speaking and see how good you are at that."
39:14
DANI: Dude, I almost had to turn it off.
39:17
KARA: I know.
39:18
DANI: That was so fucking crazy.
39:19
KARA: That was awful.
39:20
DANI: That is, like, not the s- It's so frustrating that they're doing,
39:23
like, a reverse racism plot line.
39:25
KARA: Literally.
39:26
DANI: And what's more frustrating is, spoiler alert, they're gonna do
39:28
that in a couple of seasons, too.
39:30
KARA: Yeah.
39:30
DANI: But, like, it is so…
39:32
What do you mean?
39:33
What do you mean try speak- Those aren't the same thing.
39:36
KARA: No.
39:36
DANI: Being a shitty signer is a failure on your part-
39:40
KARA: Yes
39:40
… DANI: to not be trying and working harder.
39:42
Like.
39:43
Yeah.
39:44
KARA: That was an insane thing to say.
39:46
And I wish Melody kicked her out.
39:48
DANI: Once again, yeah, I just feel like Bay's behavior really warrants them
39:52
being like, "Actually get the fuck out."
39:54
KARA: I know.
39:55
But instead Melody hands out notepads and is like, "I want you to partner up
40:00
and make a list of all the things you think you know about your partner."
40:03
DANI: Yeah.
40:03
KARA: "And when you're done, you need to share it, and it can't be anything
40:05
related to them being deaf or hearing."
40:07
DANI: Yes, and she partners up Noah with Matthew.
40:10
Is this the first time that we see-
40:11
KARA: Is Daniel Durant Matthew?
40:13
DANI: Yeah.
40:13
KARA: Okay, I think it's the first time, then.
40:15
DANI: So he has no lines.
40:16
KARA: No, he's just sitting on the side grumbling.
40:18
DANI: Yeah.
40:18
KARA: Like, "Oh, wah, wah, wah, wah."
40:19
DANI: Yeah, he has, like, no discernible, like, uh, we only
40:22
know his name from the captions.
40:24
But yeah, Daniel Durant, hi, welcome.
40:26
KARA: Hi.
40:27
DANI: Love him.
40:28
KARA: He's so young there.
40:29
DANI: I know.
40:29
KARA: It's crazy.
40:30
Bay and Natalie are paired up, and they made their list.
40:32
They come up, and this was a, this was kind of a bad idea on
40:36
Melody's part, but whatever.
40:37
DANI: It was, but then it worked at the end, and it did get me.
40:40
I was like, aw, the power of, like, common ground, gosh, I love it.
40:43
KARA: I know.
40:44
DANI: But it does not go well to start.
40:45
KARA: Yeah, 'cause Bay's like, "Natalie's a bully." Natalie says, "Bay's a
40:48
poser." And then Bay says, "Natalie's a bigot." And then Natalie rightfully
40:53
says, "You don't know anything about discrimination." And then Melody's like,
40:56
"Okay, let's stop." How about we say something positive about one another?
41:01
And then Bay's like, "Proud." Natalie goes, "Passionate." They say proud,
41:06
tough, honest, passionate, strong, and they also agree that they're both honest.
41:11
DANI: Yeah.
41:12
It's a good-
41:13
KARA: Yeah.
41:13
And Melody's thrilled.
41:14
DANI: It's good.
41:15
KARA: And then she's like, "Okay, good night. Yay!."
41:18
DANI: "Let's end on a high. Everybody get a s'more."
41:21
KARA: Yay.
41:22
DANI: I don't know how much common ground was actually achieved,
41:26
but they didn't kill each other.
41:28
KARA: No, I think she's like, "Great, then they're fine."
41:30
DANI: Yeah.
41:31
Melody's maybe not a good guidance counselor.
41:33
KARA: No, I don't think she is.
41:35
DANI: I'm also thinking about, like, where's Travis?
41:38
KARA: Where is Travis?
41:39
DANI: Where the fuck is Travis?
41:40
He should be at this retreat.
41:42
Also, as a guidance counselor, I feel like she should be more worried about
41:45
him, like keeping closer tabs on him.
41:48
KARA: I know.
41:48
He's gonna be homeless soon.
41:50
Regina arrives at the retreat.
41:51
It's, like, 8:00 PM.
41:52
It's dark.
41:53
DANI: Yeah, which is kind of, she was like, "I'll be there right after my
41:57
doctor's appointment this afternoon."
41:58
So now she's just showing up at night.
41:59
KARA: At this point, just don't go.
42:00
DANI: I know.
42:01
KARA: You missed everything.
42:01
DANI: Yeah.
42:02
KARA: You missed all the action.
42:03
DANI: Yeah.
42:03
KARA: But she arrives at the retreat.
42:05
And Daphne's like, "I see you don't have your brace anymore. Yay."
42:08
DANI: Yeah.
42:09
KARA: "You're, you're healed. Yay."
42:11
DANI: If I was Regina, I would say, "We're still waiting to hear back
42:15
from some tests. We'll talk about it on Monday." Don't tell her now.
42:19
Like, she literally walks up and is like, "I have bad news."
42:22
What's up with her timing?
42:23
KARA: Yeah, I, I don't know.
42:25
I agree.
42:26
She- Melody and Daphne are like, "Oh, you look disappointed. What's
42:29
wrong?" And she goes, "The damage is irreparable. I can't sign anymore."
42:33
DANI: But she doesn't even say that.
42:35
She says the damage is irreparable, and then she says, "I can't
42:39
cut hair or paint anymore."
42:40
KARA: Oh, yeah.
42:41
DANI: Which doesn't even acknowledge the sign language part.
42:43
And maybe-
42:44
KARA: They have to ask.
42:44
DANI: She's too scared, but Daphne has to go, "What about signing?" And Regina
42:48
goes, "I'm…" I, I don't even think she outright says, "I can't anymore."
42:53
Like, she's, like, kind of, like, dodging the question.
42:55
KARA: She's kind of just like, "If I could, I would."
42:58
DANI: Yeah.
42:59
KARA: But she doesn't say, "I can't sign anymore," which
43:02
would be a painful thing to say.
43:03
DANI: It is a painful thing to say, but I do feel like she
43:05
needs to be more forthcoming.
43:07
'Cause the way she frames it, and Melody picks up on this, is,
43:10
like, she frames it like it's the least important of the three.
43:13
KARA: Hmm.
43:14
DANI: At least that's, was my sort of read on it.
43:16
It- I don't think that's how she feels.
43:18
KARA: No, not at all.
43:19
DANI: But I think she's just doing, like, a bad job communicating about it.
43:22
KARA: Right.
43:23
DANI: Her feelings about it.
43:24
KARA: Well, Daphne catches on.
43:25
And she walks off.
43:26
DANI: Yeah.
43:27
She's so upset.
43:29
Of course.
43:29
KARA: Understandably.
43:30
And Melody's also furious.
43:31
DANI: Yeah, and then Melody kind of serves as a stand-in for our feelings.
43:35
KARA: Yeah, she goes, "You're joking."
43:37
DANI: She's like, "I've just never heard of this happening
43:40
to literally anybody else."
43:42
KARA: Yeah.
43:43
Have you, why don't you just use your other hand?
43:45
DANI: Yeah.
43:46
KARA: Great question.
43:47
DANI: And then she's like, "Why would I fake this?" And Melody's like, "I don't
43:50
know, your life's been pretty hard lately.
43:52
Maybe you're looking for some sympathy." And it's like, yeah, I-
43:55
KARA: She says, "Maybe you want sympathy or attention."
43:58
DANI: I just feel like, I don't know.
44:02
I'm thinking of the Regina who did not teach Daphne sign language
44:07
until, what, she was eight?
44:09
KARA: Yeah.
44:09
DANI: I'm thinking of the dark years.
44:11
Like, I'm just thinking, yeah, I don't know.
44:13
KARA: Yeah, and Regina goes, "I would never do something
44:16
like that." I don't know, girl.
44:17
DANI: It's like, yeah, this choice by the show to handle it
44:20
in this way is sort of character assassination for Regina, I think.
44:24
KARA: It's, yeah.
44:24
DANI: Even if it's, like, true, I mean, it is true, obviously
44:27
in the show, like, we know-
44:29
KARA: We know the actor can't sign.
44:30
DANI: We know the, no, we know the actor can't sign, but we also know that
44:33
Regina's not faking it for attention.
44:35
KARA: Yes.
44:36
DANI: But I just feel like it does such a disservice to her character.
44:42
KARA: I agree.
44:43
DANI: And she wasn't really signing that much before.
44:45
KARA: No.
44:46
DANI: And it- Melody's like, "You can't even sign a little?"
44:50
And, like, that's where I agree.
44:51
There are a lot of signs that require very little hand motion.
44:57
KARA: Or specifically wrist motion.
44:58
DANI: Yeah.
44:59
KARA: You can move the elbow but not the wrist.
45:00
DANI: Exactly.
45:02
KARA: I'm confused.
45:03
Can you have the wrist brace on and sign?
45:05
DANI: Yeah.
45:06
KARA: Can you ice after?
45:07
I don't… Anyone listening, if you have osteonecrosis in your wrist, let me know.
45:12
Tell me if you can sign.
45:13
DANI: Yeah.
45:14
KARA: Do you have it in both wrists at the same time?
45:16
I looked it up, and apparently it's extremely rare to have it
45:19
in both wrists at the same time.
45:21
DANI: Okay.
45:22
KARA: So you can use one, one hand.
45:24
DANI: Yeah.
45:25
I wonder if the tendonitis was in both, so they were like-
45:28
KARA: That's my guess.
45:29
DANI: We gotta just say both.
45:30
KARA: But usually it's your dominant hand.
45:33
That's the one that does the most movement.
45:35
Your dominant hand is usually the one that does the most movement when you sign.
45:39
I just really don't know what to do with this plot.
45:41
I d- I don't know what to do with this storyline.
45:44
Like, yeah, it sucks, and what are we gonna do about it?
45:47
DANI: I guess part of my frustration too is, if my memory serves me,
45:51
and you know, perhaps it doesn't.
45:53
I don't feel like they do anything meaningful with this.
45:57
I don't think that there's a larger conversation that's gonna happen
46:01
about how to deepen communication between Regina and Daphne.
46:06
KARA: No.
46:06
DANI: I think they just leave it at, like, wow, this really sucks.
46:08
I think they just stop making it, like, a thing to even talk about.
46:12
KARA: Yeah.
46:13
It's kind of just like, "I can't sign," and that's the end of that.
46:15
DANI: Yeah.
46:16
So that's what's disappointing to me, is I think there could've
46:19
been a larger effort made.
46:21
But at least in this episode, what happens is she tells Daphne very
46:25
poorly, and Daphne is teary-eyed.
46:28
Katie Leclerc is doing some great cry acting in this episode.
46:31
KARA: She's a good cry actor.
46:32
DANI: I was really feeling for her.
46:34
And she runs off, and Melody yells at her, and Regina's like, "If you think
46:38
I'm faking this, you are not my friend." But I don't know that we've seen Regina
46:42
and Melody be friends in a little while.
46:44
KARA: No, not in a while.
46:45
DANI: So that sort of tracks, actually.
46:47
KARA: Yeah.
46:47
DANI: And then Katie Leclerc- Daphne is sitting in a field.
46:53
Field?
46:53
KARA: She's sitting on a bench.
46:54
DANI: She's sitting on a bench.
46:55
They're, I don't know, they're at some, like, indiscernible camp situation.
46:58
Noah approaches from behind and scares her because he's not
47:03
good yet, but he is apologetic.
47:04
He said, "I haven't figured that one out yet." Once again, have you
47:07
spent no time around your uncle?
47:09
That's very interesting to me.
47:11
But they, he wants to help.
47:13
He likes Daphne.
47:15
KARA: He does.
47:15
DANI: He likes Daphne.
47:16
He doesn't like Bay.
47:17
Bay likes him, he likes Daphne.
47:19
KARA: Mm.
47:19
DANI: So we're really returning to our season one roots here.
47:22
KARA: Love triangle.
47:22
DANI: Yeah.
47:23
They said the girls are getting along too well.
47:26
Let's- let's throw a random man in there.
47:29
KARA: Two women dueling over a man.
47:31
DANI: Literally.
47:31
So he's, like, very poorly signing can I help.
47:35
Uh, Daphne finds this so charming 'cause we're also back to Daphne's roots,
47:38
which is that she loves a hearing man.
47:40
KARA: She does.
47:41
DANI: And she doesn't know yet that this is a hard of hearing individual.
47:44
KARA: Maybe the second she finds out-
47:45
DANI: She's unable to get the ick so far.
47:48
But trust me, it will probably be coming, just because of the way she tends to feel.
47:52
KARA: It's true.
47:53
She does tell him about Regina not being able to sign, and
47:57
she goes, "You don't get it.
47:58
You're not Deaf." And Noah's like, "Well, I'm imagining."
48:02
DANI: Yeah.
48:02
It's this really powerful scene, I think, because he doesn't do what Bay did.
48:07
He doesn't make it about himself.
48:08
KARA: No, he doesn't.
48:09
DANI: And I was kind of waiting for him to be like, "I'm gonna open up about my
48:14
struggles," but he just is there to listen to her, which I think is really lovely.
48:17
Like, she's like, "Can you imagine, imagine your parents never being able to
48:22
speak to you with their voice ever again?" And, like, he does some great acting.
48:27
He's just like, "Yeah, I'm imagining it," and, like, he looks really
48:30
pained, but he doesn't say anything.
48:32
KARA: Yeah.
48:33
DANI: And then he gives some great advice back, which is just, you
48:38
know, it probably is way more painful for her than it is for you.
48:43
Don't know if that's really true in Regina's case, 'cause I
48:45
don't really feel that from her.
48:47
KARA: But it's a nice thing to say.
48:48
DANI: It's a nice thing to say, and I think it really helps Daphne.
48:51
KARA: Yeah.
48:52
That was a sweet scene.
48:53
DANI: Yeah.
48:53
KARA: And then Noah goes off and lays on the grass.
48:56
DANI: Sorry, it kind of had me missing Wilke.
48:58
KARA: Oh, yeah.
48:59
DANI: I miss my other blue-eyed blonde-
49:01
KARA: So maybe you do like-
49:02
DANI: hearing boy…
49:02
KARA: maybe you do like blonde men.
49:04
DANI: Just in the Switched at Birth universe, I guess.
49:06
KARA: Okay.
49:06
Sure.
49:07
Noah then goes off.
49:08
He's thinking, I guess since he's thinking about his hearing loss again-
49:11
DANI: Yeah
49:12
… KARA: he goes to lie down in the grass.
49:14
DANI: Yeah.
49:14
KARA: And he puts his earbuds in, and he sings off-key to some
49:17
music he has on his playlist.
49:18
DANI: Bay finds him, and he's like, "How'd you find me?" And she's
49:21
like, "Well, I can hear you, so-
49:22
KARA: "I'm the only one he- that can hear here.
49:24
Hear, here.
49:25
DANI: Where we hear and-
49:26
KARA: And we're here.
49:27
Right, exactly.
49:28
And Noah says, "I'm avoiding everyone.
49:31
Emmett's giving me the stink eye.
49:33
Your boyfriend's giving me the stink eye."
49:35
DANI: Yeah.
49:35
KARA: And Bay says, "Well, he's not my boyfriend, so jot that down."
49:38
DANI: "He was."
49:39
KARA: He was.
49:40
DANI: Emphasis on the was.
49:41
She's so interested in him.
49:44
KARA: She is.
49:45
And then they share an earbud and listens to some music together.
49:49
DANI: She does take a moment to tell him that a lot of the deaf
49:52
people she knows like music.
49:54
KARA: Yeah, 'cause he was like, "I wanna listen to this playlist and
49:56
memorize all the songs before I lose my hearing, 'cause I'm not gonna
49:59
have music in my life anymore." And Bay says, "Well, that's not true.
50:02
Emmett plays the drums, and he's in my brother's band.
50:05
He has music in his life.
50:06
Plenty of Deaf people do."
50:08
DANI: Yeah.
50:09
KARA: And this seems to comfort him.
50:10
DANI: Yeah.
50:10
Again, this poor boy.
50:12
KARA: I know.
50:13
DANI: Where-
50:13
KARA: Where's the support system?
50:14
DANI: I guess now he's getting a support system, but, like, where has it been?
50:18
KARA: Yeah.
50:19
DANI: It's really sad, so.
50:20
KARA: Tough time.
50:21
DANI: Happy for him now.
50:22
KARA: Yeah.
50:23
The retreat's done.
50:24
We're back at Carlton.
50:26
Uh, Bay and Natalie are itching each other, 'cause
50:28
they both got- Not each other.
50:31
Bay.
50:31
Can you imagine?
50:32
DANI: Do you remember, did you watch Hannah Montana as a kid?
50:35
KARA: Yeah.
50:35
DANI: Do you remember the scene where they all got poison oak from something?
50:39
They also had to, like, go camping, and then they all had poison oak afterwards,
50:43
and they were, like, rubbing their backs-
50:44
KARA: That's right
50:45
… DANI: up against each other.
50:46
That's what I just pictured when you said itching each other.
50:48
KARA: No, they're both itching-
50:50
DANI: Yeah
50:50
… KARA: themselves.
50:52
DANI: Nobody's touching anybody else.
50:53
Everyone's-
50:54
KARA: They're both itchy.
50:55
But Bay offers some, um-
50:57
DANI: Calamine
50:57
… KARA: calamine lotion to Natalie, and she's like, "This will help." And Natalie
51:00
says, "Thanks." And they call a truce.
51:01
DANI: Yeah.
51:02
She says, "We should lead by example."
51:04
KARA: Yeah.
51:05
DANI: And Natalie says, "Fine. I don't wanna go on any more retreats," so.
51:08
KARA: And they agree on that.
51:09
Great, that's done.
51:10
DANI: Yay.
51:11
KARA: Daphne goes to the guest house, where she s- sees
51:13
Regina writing with her wrist.
51:15
DANI: Yeah, so, I… This is ah-
51:18
KARA: Use voice-to-text.
51:19
DANI: Literally, and then, I wonder if that didn't exist in 2013.
51:22
KARA: Probably.
51:23
DANI: And then she's like, "I've made a list of things that I could potentially
51:27
do as a career now that I can't be a stylist anymore, a hair stylist." And-
51:32
KARA: I wrote this down.
51:33
DANI: The first one is phlebotomist.
51:36
Famously something you need to be really good with your hands to do.
51:40
KARA: And very steady with your hands.
51:41
DANI: Very steady, and it's going to be repetitive motion.
51:45
KARA: And Regina goes, "I hate needles and blood, but might be good." She
51:49
just says to Daphne basically, like, "I'm sad I can't sign, and I need to
51:53
figure out a new life for myself."
51:55
DANI: She's like, yeah, she's like, "I've been a hair stylist since I was 19."
51:59
KARA: 19.
52:00
DANI: But you know how much the signing means to me.
52:04
That's all she says.
52:05
Isn't that fucked?
52:06
Say nice words to your daughter.
52:08
Stop with this, "You get what it means to me."
52:11
KARA: "You know how good of a mother I am. You know how hard I've worked."
52:14
DANI: You need to say, "This is going to gut me forever."
52:18
KARA: That's what Daphne needs to hear.
52:19
DANI: Yeah.
52:20
I just feel like, once again, it ends with Daphne comforting Regina.
52:24
KARA: Parentifying her.
52:25
DANI: It's always Daphne.
52:26
It's always on Daphne.
52:28
KARA: No, she's like, "There, there, it's okay that you can't
52:30
sign to me in the language that I use and need for access." Okay.
52:34
Love you, Mom.
52:35
Like, what are we supposed to do with that?
52:36
I hate it.
52:38
DANI: I really like your idea of a hand double.
52:40
I'm really mad that they didn't just do that.
52:42
It would've been hard
52:44
KARA: Just get someone who kind of looks like Constance, has similar skin
52:47
coloring and throw their hand in there.
52:49
DANI: Yeah.
52:50
Even a body double from behind.
52:52
KARA: Yeah.
52:53
DANI: It would've been fine.
52:54
I- It would've been better than this
52:56
… KARA: and maybe it was someone who's Deaf, and maybe they sh- Regina
52:59
got really good, like overnight.
53:01
DANI: Oh.
53:02
KARA: Damn, she's been practicing.
53:03
DANI: Damn.
53:04
Yeah.
53:05
The time in the wrist brace paid off.
53:07
KARA: Woo.
53:08
DANI: Woo.
53:08
All right.
53:09
KARA: Okay.
53:09
Last scene.
53:10
We're at Carlton.
53:12
Bay runs up to Emmett, and she's like, "Great news.
53:14
Natalie and I called a truce, and we don't hate each other.
53:17
Aren't you proud of me?" And he's like, "Yeah.
53:20
What's going on with us?"
53:21
And she's like, "Well, if you're talking about Noah, we're just
53:25
friends." And he's like, "Sure, great, but I hate being jealous, and I, I
53:31
don't know why we're not together.
53:32
Like, is it about Simone?
53:34
I thought you came to Carlton for me."
53:36
DANI: Mm-hmm.
53:37
KARA: And she goes, "Well, no, I didn't." And-
53:40
DANI: Kinda did, dude … she…
53:43
KARA: I think he was partly the reason.
53:44
DANI: At least partially.
53:44
Yeah.
53:45
KARA: Partially.
53:47
Yeah.
53:47
But then she was like, "I can't.
53:49
I can't do a relationship.
53:50
I just started a new school.
53:51
I'm really struggling.
53:53
I'm underwater.
53:54
I, I can't do a relationship." I think that's quite mature of her.
53:57
DANI: I think it is, but I think the underlying thing is she likes Noah.
54:03
KARA: Yeah.
54:03
And then she says to Emmett, "Can you just help me as a friend?"
54:06
And then Emmett says, "I don't wanna be your friend." And then he walks away,
54:11
and as he walks away, Bay y- shouts his name, "Emmett." Why would you do that?
54:16
What- It was so s-
54:17
DANI: What made you do that?
54:18
KARA: You've known him for over a year now.
54:21
What?
54:21
And then, like, sad music plays 'cause then she realizes he
54:24
can't hear as he's walking away.
54:26
What?
54:26
DANI: She's never gonna learn, not fully.
54:29
KARA: That was such a dramatic ending.
54:30
That was unnecessary.
54:32
And that's the end of the episode.
54:33
Wow.
54:34
Well, hopefully Bay's attendance at Carlton will be a little bit
54:37
more pleasant from here on out.
54:39
DANI: Yeah.
54:40
KARA: Maybe she gets a newfound respect for Natalie.
54:42
Toby and Lana, wow.
54:44
Wow.
54:45
Interesting.
54:46
Don't really care about John's, uh, campaign.
54:48
DANI: No.
54:49
KARA: What else is happening.
54:50
I'm really annoyed at Regina.
54:52
I'm on Daphne's side here this episode.
54:54
DANI: What's so frustrating is there's not even sides 'cause she's-
54:57
KARA: No
54:57
… DANI: not even mad.
54:58
She doesn't even know that she can be mad.
55:01
KARA: No, she's just like, "Oh, well, this is my life now."
55:04
DANI: Yeah.
55:04
KARA: Like a sad puppy.
55:05
DANI: She just, like, accepts it.
55:07
God.
55:07
Also, where is Angelo?
55:09
I love that Switched at Birth can only afford to have, like,
55:12
two guest actors an episode.
55:14
It's- And so they're like, it can't be Angelo or Nikki.
55:16
KARA: It's because Gilles Marini was in Dancing With the Stars.
55:19
DANI: Wow.
55:20
That's-
55:21
KARA: I looked it up.
55:21
DANI: So relevant 'cause I'm vaguely invested in Dancing
55:26
With the Stars this season.
55:26
KARA: He had to do filming.
55:29
He had to do filming for his All Star season of Dancing With the Stars.
55:31
That's why-
55:32
DANI: All stars?
55:32
KARA: He was in one season, then he was in, in the All Star season.
55:36
DANI: Wow.
55:36
KARA: Which tracks 'cause he, I think he's a great dancer.
55:38
DANI: We should find clips of that and post them.
55:40
KARA: I know.
55:41
We should.
55:42
DANI: Oh, he was in our DMs the other day.
55:44
KARA: Oh, was he?
55:45
What'd he say?
55:45
DANI: Well, I was in his DMs.
55:47
KARA: Yeah.
55:48
DANI: So I DM'd him.
55:49
So shout out.
55:50
KARA: He does comment on our posts.
55:51
Thank you, Gilles.
55:52
DANI: Yeah.
55:52
Thank you.
55:53
We're huge fans.
55:54
KARA: We're really big fans of your work.
55:56
DANI: I'm your biggest fan.
55:58
So thank you very much.
55:59
KARA: Yeah.
55:59
And I hope maybe you listen, and if you don't, maybe you should.
56:02
DANI: Maybe you should.
56:04
KARA: Yeah.
56:04
DANI: 'Cause we have mostly nice things to say about you.
56:07
KARA: About him, the, the actor as a person, yes.
56:09
DANI: Yeah.
56:10
Well, not Angelo, but he needs-
56:11
KARA: A- not Angelo, but you can't help that.
56:13
DANI: Yeah.
56:13
KARA: You play the character.
56:14
DANI: That's not your fault.
56:14
KARA: But you personally, you- you sound great.
56:17
DANI: You played him so well.
56:18
KARA: And you're beautiful.
56:19
DANI: Yeah, so beautiful.
56:20
KARA: I'm so excited for dinner.
56:22
DANI: Me too.
56:22
Okay.
56:23
KARA: Dinner time.
56:24
Bye, guys.
56:25
DANI: Bye.