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Ep. 991: Foundations - How We Can All Ensure a Better Future for the Next Generation of Whitetail Hunters · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
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  Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,
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  Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.
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  Speaker 1: First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host
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  Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast,
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  Speaker 2: which is brought to you by first Light. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 2: Tony Peterson, and today's episode is a little thought experiment
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  Speaker 2: on what the future of deer hunting could look like
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  Speaker 2: and what we can do as individuals to usher it
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  Speaker 2: in a direction we believe is best. I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 2: honest with you. I'm pretty stressed out at life, at
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  Speaker 2: this job, at a lot of stuff. And one of
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  Speaker 2: the things that has always helped me level myself off
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  Speaker 2: is hunting. But hunting has me worried too, and I
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  Speaker 2: hate that part. It's not good when our escape suddenly
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  Speaker 2: become a source of major stress for us. I'm guessing
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  Speaker 2: you can relate, and I'm guessing you might feel like
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  Speaker 2: you don't have any agency over the future of hunting.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you don't, maybe we all really don't, and maybe
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  Speaker 2: that's not true. Either way, It's what I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about right now, what is going on with people.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's a joke sort of to talk about
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  Speaker 2: how COVID kind of broke us as a society, but
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  Speaker 2: it seems like things have been pretty rough since then.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure if we could go back in time to
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  Speaker 2: the pre COVID days, there was plenty of stuff to
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  Speaker 2: bitch about then too. Who knows, But what I do
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  Speaker 2: know is that I have more conversations now than I
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  Speaker 2: ever have with people who just seemed to be stressed
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  Speaker 2: to the gills and who are wondering what to do
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  Speaker 2: with their lives to find a better baseline. This is
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  Speaker 2: something we just kind of accept in our jobs and
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  Speaker 2: often in our relationships, because neither are all that easy
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  Speaker 2: just to give up or change. Although that brings up
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  Speaker 2: the point of hard stuff being worth it. Maybe I'll
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  Speaker 2: dive into that shit some other times. But we used
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  Speaker 2: to have coping mechanisms for the stuff. We'd walk into
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  Speaker 2: the woods and we'd haunt deer or pull the old
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  Speaker 2: lab out of crate and go try to find some
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  Speaker 2: roosters to flush something in the outdoors. Something that narrowed
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  Speaker 2: down our aperture down to us, you know, like a
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  Speaker 2: single pursuit and allowed us to give ourselves to something
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  Speaker 2: immersive for a few hours, where we could eventually surface
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  Speaker 2: on the other side, tired and content recharged, so we
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  Speaker 2: could go wade through the shit of everyday life. Now
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  Speaker 2: a lot of us are finding that hunting isn't really
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  Speaker 2: the escape it once was, and that is messing with us.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a trusted dog that suddenly snaps at you.
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  Speaker 2: Your brain knows what once was, you know what was
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  Speaker 2: comfortable and predictable, and then suddenly it becomes something that
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  Speaker 2: will never be the same. There's always going to be
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  Speaker 2: a little doubt there, a little hesitancy. Even if it
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  Speaker 2: truly was a one off event, you won't know that
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  Speaker 2: and your brain won't let you forget it. With deer hunting,
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  Speaker 2: it should just be fun, you know what. Scratch that.
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  Speaker 2: Deer hunting should be something that is worth doing always.
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  Speaker 2: It should be something that when you do it, you
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  Speaker 2: are unsuccessful a lot, and you're okay with that. But
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  Speaker 2: it can easily not be that. And when we slip
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  Speaker 2: into that territory, it's like that family dog growling and
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  Speaker 2: lashing out at us. There are a lot of telltale
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  Speaker 2: signs of someone who has been bit by the deer
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  Speaker 2: hunting dog. So to speak, all of us have either
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  Speaker 2: talked to someone who shot a buck they regret because
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  Speaker 2: it's too small, or we've been that person. I've done both,
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  Speaker 2: and now I just don't care. If I see a
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  Speaker 2: deer and I want to shoot it, I just shoot it.
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  Speaker 2: And if people want to judge me for that, great,
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  Speaker 2: I truly believe that says more about them than me.
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  Speaker 2: The mental gymnastics we play on that front are often gross,
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  Speaker 2: and this happens a lot. What is there that says
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  Speaker 2: you are supposed to only shoot mature bucks? Who cares?
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, that mature buck thing is kind
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  Speaker 2: of bullshit because we can't age deer the way we
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  Speaker 2: think we can. And if we truly cared about shooting
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  Speaker 2: mature bucks so they can pass on their jeans, we'd
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  Speaker 2: let them go until they were ten and not shoot
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  Speaker 2: them when they are five and coincidentally have their big
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  Speaker 2: set of antlers. That's just trophy hunting in a slightly
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  Speaker 2: more palatable package, which was the point all along. The
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  Speaker 2: people pushing that message recognized how ugly trophy hunting is
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  Speaker 2: in a peer form to the masses, so they rebranded
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  Speaker 2: it very successfully. Now that's how an awful lot of
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  Speaker 2: people talk about their hunting and how they set their goals.
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  Speaker 2: But there are a hell of a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: out there who probably should find a different path because
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  Speaker 2: that type of trophy hunting is largely unavailable to them
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  Speaker 2: or secretly unappealing. And listen again, I don't care what
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  Speaker 2: you do if you want to grow and name bucks
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  Speaker 2: and farm deer and emulate the biggest names in the
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  Speaker 2: deer game donuts for donuts, but understand that a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people will never get there, and a hell of
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  Speaker 2: a lot of other people don't want to turn their
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  Speaker 2: deer hunting into that type of game. And honestly, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of those people will kill smaller bucks than the
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  Speaker 2: name the buck crowd, but they will become better deer
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  Speaker 2: hunters for it. What I worry about with this is
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  Speaker 2: that the messaging around a lot of deer hunting and
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  Speaker 2: a hell of a lot of trophy hunting is shaping
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  Speaker 2: the future generations of hunters. I've been thinking about that
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  Speaker 2: a lot lately with my daughters. In a recent conversation
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  Speaker 2: with the dude at the gym sort of buried the
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  Speaker 2: blade right up to the handle. For me, I hadn't
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  Speaker 2: seen him all fall, but when I did, he strolled
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  Speaker 2: right up to me to talk about deer hunting. We've
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  Speaker 2: chatted in the past about hunting quite a bit, and
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  Speaker 2: I truly believe he's just a hardcore outdoorsman who's raising
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  Speaker 2: a few daughters himself and just loves the outdoors. So
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  Speaker 2: when I asked him how his season went, he said
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  Speaker 2: it was almost non existent. He had a lot of
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  Speaker 2: work this fall, and he did a lot of work
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  Speaker 2: on a cabin they bought, and his daughters are at
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  Speaker 2: the age where, at least if you live in the suburbs,
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  Speaker 2: they'll be in endless activities. He then said he did
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  Speaker 2: get to hunt a friend's place in Wisconsin, where he
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  Speaker 2: was told that he couldn't shoot any bucks unless they
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  Speaker 2: were one fifty plus. He said the landowner invested huge
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  Speaker 2: money into having someone create and plant food plots and
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  Speaker 2: put out tower blinds and essentially said there were too
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  Speaker 2: deer on the property that could be shot this year.
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  Speaker 2: So this guy said it sucked, But that's that's the
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  Speaker 2: deal when you hunt someone else's property. And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: blaming the landowner for setting his own rules. You make
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  Speaker 2: the money, you buy the land, you call the shots.
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  Speaker 2: I have no problem with that, But what bothered me
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  Speaker 2: was my gym buddy said that he took the landowner's
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  Speaker 2: thirteen year old son out two Now. I said, was
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  Speaker 2: he restricted to one fifties as well? And he said
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  Speaker 2: not by his dad? But the kid was even more
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  Speaker 2: into trophy hunting than his dad. And I said, well,
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  Speaker 2: how the hell can that be? And he said, he
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  Speaker 2: watches a couple of guys on YouTube who kill multiple
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  Speaker 2: giants every year, like one eighty to two hundred inch
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  Speaker 2: types of giants, big money deer, if you get my drift.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought, that kid is never going to learn
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  Speaker 2: how to hunt, and he's probably never going to learn
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  Speaker 2: how to enjoy hunting, because the minute a giant isn't
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  Speaker 2: available to hunt, then the hunt is off. And what
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  Speaker 2: does that mean? I don't know, but I'm worried about
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  Speaker 2: the deer hunting landscape that my generation is leaving for
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  Speaker 2: the next. I'm filling in the blanks right now because
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that kid at all, but I think
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  Speaker 2: I can make a few predictions. He's going to always
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  Speaker 2: have an amazing spot to hunt because his family has money.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to focus on, you know, trophies pretty tightly
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  Speaker 2: above everything else, which probably means he might not be
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  Speaker 2: overly generous with his opportunities. If he sticks with it.
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  Speaker 2: He might not, though I don't know, because even on
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  Speaker 2: super good ground, the neighbors can kill your buck, and
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  Speaker 2: a whole year of trail camera work and planning can
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  Speaker 2: go up and smoke the minute someone else sends an
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  Speaker 2: arrow or a bullet or across bow bolt flying not.
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  Speaker 2: If there aren't any deer that someone views as worthy
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  Speaker 2: to hunt, then there isn't a reason to hunt, which,
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  Speaker 2: if you look at it that way, seems insane to
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  Speaker 2: someone like me, but is very very common. If that
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  Speaker 2: happens enough, then it's not crazy to think that kid
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  Speaker 2: could eventually just decide hunting isn't worth it anymore. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to sound like I'm picking on that kid.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of view that like I view you know,
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  Speaker 2: the dog that bit me on the ass a couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks ago in the hotel. It wasn't the dog's fault,
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  Speaker 2: if you get my drift, And that's where a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the responsibility lie. I think we are the ones
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  Speaker 2: who are creating the deer hunting culture and the broader
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  Speaker 2: hunting culture which we are handing off to the next generation.
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  Speaker 2: What are we doing with that responsibility. I recently had
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  Speaker 2: a conversation with one of our other forward facing personalities
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  Speaker 2: who is having trouble with the sales east side of
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  Speaker 2: our business. I said I didn't have an answer for them,
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  Speaker 2: but for me, I figured out a long time ago
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  Speaker 2: that I have to hunt and portray hunting in a
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  Speaker 2: way that feels right and real to me. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how to put that any other way, but I
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  Speaker 2: know when I do a hard public land hunt, it
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  Speaker 2: makes me feel less gross to do the other parts
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  Speaker 2: of this job. But that's not just the job. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know why this is, but there are certain parts
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  Speaker 2: of hunting that I think are just important. I think
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  Speaker 2: you should burn some calories to kill an animal, because
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  Speaker 2: even though it doesn't make a difference to that animal,
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  Speaker 2: for some reason, I think it should make a difference
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  Speaker 2: to us. I think that if you have the means
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  Speaker 2: in the time, which most of us do, then butchering
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  Speaker 2: our own animals just kind of closes the loop in
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  Speaker 2: an important way. Here's the thing, though, what I think
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  Speaker 2: doesn't really matter. I can pass on those things to
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  Speaker 2: my daughters and the folks I hunt with and their
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  Speaker 2: kids and my audience, and I hope that's the right thing.
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  Speaker 2: But I also have to recognize that everyone draws their
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  Speaker 2: own lines in the sand. If you don't want to
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  Speaker 2: butcher your own deer, who am I to say that
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  Speaker 2: you should? Just like? It would be crazy for me
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  Speaker 2: to force someone to listen to the kind of music
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  Speaker 2: I like or eat the kind of food that I like. Whatever,
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  Speaker 2: it's none of my business, and that's a good thing
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  Speaker 2: to recognize. What I think is a better approach is
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  Speaker 2: to ask all of us to consider what we have
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  Speaker 2: influence on and what that means for our interactions, and
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  Speaker 2: what could stick that either should or shouldn't. There are
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  Speaker 2: hunting methods we can pass along, strategies, tactics, ethics, standards,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of esoteric things we just kind of
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  Speaker 2: pull from the cosmos and decide to deserve a thumbs
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  Speaker 2: up or a thumbs down. There are things we are
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  Speaker 2: largely mobilized together that we all generally accept as good
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  Speaker 2: or bad, but those aren't so simple either. The non
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  Speaker 2: resident hate thing is the one thing that I harp
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  Speaker 2: on all the time, and it fits nicely right here.
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  Speaker 2: We can justify lobbying to shut down non resident opportunities
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  Speaker 2: and are well within our legal rights to do so.
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  Speaker 2: We can cloak those arguments in many things and convince
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  Speaker 2: ourselves that we are for the resource and that's that.
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  Speaker 2: But you're also actively removing hunting on opportunities from your
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  Speaker 2: fellow hunters. Sugar coated all you want, but if you
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  Speaker 2: advocate for that, you're pretty much doing the same thing
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  Speaker 2: that the anti hunters want to do. We just happen
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  Speaker 2: to be way more successful at it, to be honest,
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  Speaker 2: and while you might get easier hunting when the rat
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  Speaker 2: bastard hunters who live in a different state get booted out,
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  Speaker 2: there will come a time when you will need them
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  Speaker 2: and they won't be there for you. That will create
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  Speaker 2: a net loss of opportunities for future generations. Should we
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  Speaker 2: never consider tightening things up or changing our management structure
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  Speaker 2: while standing on the throats of other hunters. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying that, but I'm also not comfortable knowing that when
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  Speaker 2: we take away opportunities from each other, they don't come back,
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  Speaker 2: and that thing we lobby to take away will never
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  Speaker 2: be there for some kid just learning to hunt now
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  Speaker 2: in a different state. If you don't want hunting to
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  Speaker 2: truly become a rich man's sport, then don't remove affordable opportunities,
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  Speaker 2: because the well healed will always find a way to
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  Speaker 2: do what they want. They'll just lease the land you
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  Speaker 2: used to hunt, buy outfitter tags, whatever. I've bitched about
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  Speaker 2: this stuff enough and I think it's time to go
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  Speaker 2: a different route for the rest of the show. How
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  Speaker 2: can we try to hand off this thing we love
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  Speaker 2: to new generations of people who might just love it
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  Speaker 2: and nurture it the way we would want them to. Well,
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  Speaker 2: let's start with ourselves. If we handle ourselves the right
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  Speaker 2: way and accept some personal responsibility, that goes pretty far.
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  Speaker 2: I saw a comment recently on an article at the
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  Speaker 2: Mediat's site about taking an out of state trip, and
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  Speaker 2: the comment are essentially spent a paragraph bitching about how
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  Speaker 2: South Dakota has been mismanaged so poorly that there are
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  Speaker 2: no mature bucks there anymore. First off, if you can't
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  Speaker 2: find a mature buck in South Dakota, look inward first. Secondly,
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  Speaker 2: instead of bitching, what are your options? How many buck
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  Speaker 2: taggs do you get per year or use in that state,
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  Speaker 2: in particular, the residents aren't shy about going after non residents,
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  Speaker 2: and I get it, But guess who is next when
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  Speaker 2: you boot the non residence out and the hunting still
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  Speaker 2: is an Iowa quality, Say goodbye to your opportunities because
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  Speaker 2: there will be enough residents who have some money and
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  Speaker 2: power who can lobby to keep you from their critters.
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  Speaker 2: And that shit is coming. Where are the solutions? I
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  Speaker 2: get the desire for a good bitch session, hell I
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  Speaker 2: get paid to bitch, But we have to look for
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  Speaker 2: solutions to this stuff. Does it involve a season structure
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  Speaker 2: change we can advocate for, or maybe a license price
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  Speaker 2: increase that goes directly to opening up more private land
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  Speaker 2: to the public. How about a better system to monitor
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  Speaker 2: that land so we aren't giving landowners a big tax
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  Speaker 2: break or a payment for land that is essentially unreachable
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  Speaker 2: or unusable to the hunting public. There's plenty of shit
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  Speaker 2: like that out there, and it sucks to see. But
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  Speaker 2: maybe it's simpler than all of this though. Maybe it's
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  Speaker 2: about us learning to do more for ourselves, like but
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  Speaker 2: you our own deer, and then passing along that knowledge
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  Speaker 2: to other hunters who might learn to appreciate that process.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's about looking hard for all the deer we hit,
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  Speaker 2: not just the big bucks, and then spending some time
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  Speaker 2: pondering why we made a bad shot and how we
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  Speaker 2: can do better next time. I'm in that stage right
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  Speaker 2: now with shooting on film, and it pisses me off
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  Speaker 2: because I feel like I'm going through something I went
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  Speaker 2: through a long time ago and was hoping wouldn't rear
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  Speaker 2: its ugly head again. But life doesn't work that way.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get my daughters to understand why and
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  Speaker 2: when bad shots happen, and how to follow through the
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  Speaker 2: best way possible. Sometimes it's as simple as thinking about
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  Speaker 2: how we talk about this stuff. I remember hunting in
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  Speaker 2: Texas one time, and a guide there referred to every
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  Speaker 2: buck that wasn't a shooter for the ranch as a
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  Speaker 2: shit buck. Not If that dude has kids, do you
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  Speaker 2: think they'll be the kinds of hunters we want representing
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  Speaker 2: us in rear the next generation. I don't know, man,
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: but you might think, well, we are surrounded by assholes,
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  Speaker 2: and sometimes we are the assholes and that will never change,
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  Speaker 2: and you'd be right. But that's kind of like deciding
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  Speaker 2: that a whole state doesn't have the kind of dear
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  Speaker 2: you deem worthy to hunt and then throwing your hands
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  Speaker 2: in the air and saying, well, it's beyond my control.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how about lowering your standards or raising
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  Speaker 2: your game to the point where those bucks become in
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  Speaker 2: play because they do live out there. How we do
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  Speaker 2: this stuff, how we speak about it, the messaging we
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  Speaker 2: send out in the world is shaping the future of hunting.
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  Speaker 2: Whether we take responsibility for that or not. It's happening
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  Speaker 2: regardless of our consent. That doesn't mean we have to
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  Speaker 2: accept the responsibility. But I'm willing to bet most of
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  Speaker 2: the folks who listen to this podcast and who consume
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: quite a bit of what Mediator puts out, feel something
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  Speaker 2: in the direction of trying to do better when we
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  Speaker 2: can look. I hate that this sounds so preachy, Probably
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  Speaker 2: not as much as you do. I just keep bumping
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  Speaker 2: into this world that we've created and realizing once again
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  Speaker 2: that we are real freaking lucky to have deer to
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  Speaker 2: hunt it all, and the chance to slip into the
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  Speaker 2: woods and experience something that most of the population will
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  Speaker 2: never get to experience. That's their loss. Let's not make
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  Speaker 2: it everyone else's loss if we can help it. Let's
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  Speaker 2: think about the white tail world, the hunting world that
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  Speaker 2: we are passing along to the next generation, and try
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  Speaker 2: to shape it into something that will mean to them
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  Speaker 2: what it either used to mean to us or still does,
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  Speaker 2: or what we wish it meant to us. Okay, that's
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  Speaker 2: my ted talk. I'll get off my soadbox now. I'll
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: get back into something lighter and more strategy friendly next week.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe something on late season hunting and trying to wring
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: the last hunts out of the year, get something done,
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  Speaker 2: makes something happen, something like that. It'll be lighter than
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  Speaker 2: this one. I promise you that that's it for this week.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Tony Peterson. This has been the Wire to Hunt
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