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- 0:00S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl
- 0:06S1: and crew. Come as you are an experienced guide, overcome
- 0:10S1: what seems impossible and live as you never imagined delivering
- 0:16S1: the truth daily.
- 0:17S2: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available.
- 0:21S2: And you're forfeiting your soul. There's no amount of gain
- 0:25S2: that would make it worth it.
- 0:26S3: Our own way never ever works. Because it's apart from
- 0:29S3: the life source, which is God.
- 0:32S4: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
- 0:36S4: be taken from you. Christ's love can't. And he went
- 0:39S4: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
- 0:44S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
- 0:48S1: and crew. You can't talk too much about it, young Thunder.
- 0:51S1: I'm just giving you a forewarning right now.
- 0:54S3: I know I can't.
- 0:54S1: I don't want to hear you prattle on about it.
- 0:56S3: I won't, I won't, I'll be careful.
- 0:58S1: You don't even know what I'm talking about.
- 1:00S3: I know exactly what you're talking about.
- 1:01S1: Well, I didn't know until I just read some local
- 1:04S1: news here that the cubbies came when I went to bed.
- 1:07S1: They were down by two runs.
- 1:09S3: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:09S1: So they had to tie it up and then go ahead.
- 1:11S1: Now pardon us. I know you live in Florida and
- 1:14S1: you're like, come on, let's talk about something somewhere else. Yeah.
- 1:18S1: So the topic is and I can make this fit
- 1:21S1: into our show. Okay. Nothing like a comeback spiritually, people.
- 1:24S3: Ain't nothing like a comeback.
- 1:25S1: Nothing like a comeback, baby.
- 1:28S2: But didn't they beat the Sox?
- 1:30S3: Yes they did.
- 1:30S2: Yeah. Okay, so some of us aren't.
- 1:32S1: I know, I know. So you got socks. You got
- 1:36S1: Sox colors on, right?
- 1:37S3: Yeah you.
- 1:37S4: Do.
- 1:38S2: Come on. We're definitely a city divided. There are Cubs
- 1:41S2: and Sox fans.
- 1:42S3: Well, that's true. That's true.
- 1:43S2: Don't you know? And then some cards thrown in there are.
- 1:46S1: And we're praying for those Sox fans.
- 1:49S3: That's right. That's right. Absolutely. Wow. That was a great game.
- 1:52S1: Yeah. It's a rough morning. And Natalie is sporting the
- 1:55S1: Sox colors this morning.
- 1:56S2: Not intentionally. To full disclosure, I'm full disclosure. Not a
- 2:00S2: big baseball fan, but if I had to pick, I'm
- 2:02S2: going with the Sox.
- 2:03S3: Okay.
- 2:04S1: Yeah. I mean, they got a good ball club.
- 2:06S3: Yeah, they're better than they were expected to be this year,
- 2:08S3: by far. Very positive.
- 2:09S1: They stunk it up so bad you could smell them
- 2:12S1: in the middle of the Mississippi.
- 2:13S3: Wow.
- 2:15S1: No, I mean, even Sox fans say that.
- 2:17S3: Oh, sure. I mean, yeah, no.
- 2:18S1: One's arguing that point. They were setting records for first
- 2:23S1: half losses or something. Crazy. First half of the season.
- 2:26S3: Mhm. And I mean it's the well they had a
- 2:29S3: I think they they had the season record a couple
- 2:31S3: years ago for most losses in a season.
- 2:33S1: Uh oh.
- 2:34S3: That's right. That was.
- 2:34S1: Two years.
- 2:35S3: Ago.
- 2:35S1: Yeah. So we had a couple of years of stinketh.
- 2:37S3: Yeah. But they're doing really good now. But last night. Okay,
- 2:40S3: this is the only thing I'll say about it because
- 2:42S3: it's really cool.
- 2:43S1: Why? I had to do a preemptive strike and this
- 2:45S1: guy could rattle on forever.
- 2:47S3: I wasn't going to say anything, but go ahead. But
- 2:49S3: Pete Crow-armstrong, who is one of the front runners for
- 2:53S3: the MVP of the National League, I'll just say that, uh,
- 2:57S3: he had a, he had a first pitch of the
- 3:01S3: game home run.
- 3:02S1: Oh.
- 3:02S3: Did he. And he had the walk off home run.
- 3:05S1: Oh.
- 3:05S3: Did he. He is the seventh player in MLB history
- 3:08S3: to start the game with a home run and end
- 3:11S3: the game with a home run.
- 3:12S2: Whose random stats.
- 3:14S1: Well hold it now if we're going to talk crazy stats.
- 3:18S1: Ali would love this one.
- 3:19S2: Okay.
- 3:20S1: Say it. There's a kid named Baez who just came up.
- 3:25S3: To the Cardinals. Yeah.
- 3:26S1: To the Cardinals. I know his first at bat home run. Oh, wow.
- 3:31S1: Second at bat, home run. That's right. His third at bat.
- 3:36S1: Home run!
- 3:37S3: No way. That was in the Cubs. Yeah. Three home
- 3:39S3: run game in his first MLB game ever.
- 3:42S2: First three at bats.
- 3:43S3: First three at bats ever against the Cubs at Wrigley Field.
- 3:47S3: Three home run game. Yeah.
- 3:49S2: That's awesome.
- 3:50S3: No it's not. It was Saint Louis Cardinals. It was
- 3:52S3: not awesome.
- 3:53S1: It is.
- 3:54S3: Awesome.
- 3:54S1: I'm with Ali, I'm with Ali.
- 3:56S3: I know, it is awesome.
- 3:58S1: It's it's one of those things I. The kid was
- 4:01S1: beside himself. What's crazy is he didn't look shocked. It
- 4:05S1: looked like he's trotting around going, yeah, I knew I
- 4:07S1: had this image.
- 4:09S3: He is a very good prospect coming up. But I mean,
- 4:11S3: three home runs in a game is not expected for
- 4:15S3: a very veteran player, let alone a kid in his
- 4:17S3: first game.
- 4:18S4: Just walks up and goes, hello?
- 4:20S3: I mean, I'm here now.
- 4:22S1: Now it's it's he's sobered up. I think he's now
- 4:25S1: hitting like 261 or something.
- 4:28S2: That's almost a tough way to start just because it
- 4:31S2: sets the bar. So you.
- 4:32S1: Are not.
- 4:33S3: Kidding.
- 4:33S2: Absolutely right. And you're like okay.
- 4:36S3: People think, oh, the next Barry Bonds is here for
- 4:38S3: one game. And then it's like, well, no, I'm a
- 4:40S3: normal person.
- 4:41S1: But here's the cool thing about it. He had 30
- 4:44S1: family in the stands.
- 4:45S3: Oh that's cool. Okay, fine. I can.
- 4:48S4: Imagine.
- 4:48S1: Crazy. And so I didn't. Don't cry for me, Argentina.
- 4:53S1: I was happy for this guy. I wasn't. I was
- 4:56S1: really happy for him. I know it was the Cubs
- 4:59S1: and that stinks. Oh, sure. Club a man. And they
- 5:02S1: were deep, deep, deep. I mean, they were they were
- 5:05S1: no no brainers. They were going I just isn't it
- 5:08S1: cool when kids do. Well.
- 5:10S2: Yes. And I think in sports, even if you're cheering,
- 5:14S2: you have like a vested interest in who wins. I
- 5:16S2: think there's something cool about knowing you're watching something historical happen, something.
- 5:21S2: That's when, you know, when Kobe goes off for 81
- 5:24S2: or when you know, just those moments in sports where
- 5:27S2: you're watching somebody do something very special, very great. And
- 5:31S2: you know, people are going to be talking about it
- 5:33S2: for years. I want to be in the building for that,
- 5:35S2: no matter who I'm cheering for.
- 5:36S3: I will say that is usually the case. If there's
- 5:39S3: 30 teams, that's the case for 29 other teams. You
- 5:43S3: never want to be the team where history happens again.
- 5:45S2: I'm talking about from a fan perspective, I'm I'm not
- 5:48S2: talking from.
- 5:48S1: A purely fan perspective.
- 5:50S3: From a purely fan of the game perspective.
- 5:52S2: Yes. If you're on the other team, you're not like, oh, wow,
- 5:54S2: history is being made.
- 5:56S3: I'm so happy that my team is getting frustrated.
- 5:59S4: Yeah, we'll be in the books.
- 6:00S2: As a fan. As a fan?
- 6:02S3: Yeah. Oh, man.
- 6:04S1: Excuse me.
- 6:04S2: How's that coffee?
- 6:05S3: Yeah. Just stop.
- 6:07S1: You guys were going for it. So I thought, man,
- 6:09S1: hang on, hang on, everybody. This is so good.
- 6:12S2: Real relaxed here this morning.
- 6:14S1: I am kind of chill. Get some dark roast going.
- 6:18S2: Don't mind us.
- 6:19S4: What's your mug say there? It says.
- 6:21S1: Sorry about that. I did get caught on that one.
- 6:23S4: I'm trying to read your mug, though. I'm trying to
- 6:24S4: read your mug. What does it say? Blessed.
- 6:26S1: It says blessed. It says blessed.
- 6:31S3: Do you feel blessed today?
- 6:31S1: I feel blessed, I feel blessed, dude.
- 6:36S4: I knew that I would.
- 6:40S3: That's a good song.
- 6:41S1: All right, coming up, we got a question for you.
- 6:43S1: And it's all related to the unstoppable gospel. You know,
- 6:47S1: I'm going to ask it now. So yesterday. Oh, Ali
- 6:50S1: was out. Ali, we got a good news to report.
- 6:52S1: We were sharing the gospel in a couple of blocks
- 6:55S1: and really answering the question. You were baptized but weren't
- 6:58S1: born again. The amount of calls we got in proves
- 7:00S1: that we've got a it's a real thing.
- 7:03S2: Yeah.
- 7:04S1: I mean, it is the amount of calls that we
- 7:07S1: got in tells me where we are in step with
- 7:11S1: the spirit on this topic that we've been hammering, and
- 7:15S1: we can't stop anytime soon. We really can't. And Joseph
- 7:19S1: and then Joseph calls in. So here's the cool story.
- 7:23S1: Boom crew and Ali, everybody listen in. This is so cool.
- 7:26S1: So we're we're going after this storyline. And then somewhere
- 7:30S1: I popped in the gospel. Well, about that time, the
- 7:32S1: Holy Spirit had this guy Joseph. Where was he? What
- 7:34S1: state is he in?
- 7:35S3: He was in Florida.
- 7:36S1: Florida. So he's driving down the road and he gets
- 7:40S1: on something. Told him to go to this to a channel. Anyway,
- 7:44S1: he lands on us. His life is a wreck. He
- 7:47S1: was baptized as a kid. He's been far from God.
- 7:50S1: He was never born again. And he starts hearing about
- 7:53S1: this and he calls in and he says, I was back.
- 7:57S1: So he calls in with the story, says, I was baptized,
- 8:00S1: but I am nowhere, basically with God.
- 8:03S2: Wow.
- 8:03S1: And we got to watch the Spirit of God change
- 8:07S1: his soul right here on air.
- 8:08S2: Oh, man.
- 8:09S1: And it was really cool. So Joseph, uh, Jonathan got
- 8:14S1: him hooked up with everything he needs for a new
- 8:16S1: follower of Jesus. And it's, it's cool. And then we
- 8:18S1: had scores of people surrender to Christ yesterday to day.
- 8:22S3: Yeah. It was really awesome.
- 8:22S1: It was, it was awesome. Also got to get one
- 8:26S1: other thing in here. Oh my goodness. We got the
- 8:30S1: best tool from Doctor Drew Dickens ever in the links
- 8:34S1: just poured out of here.
- 8:36S3: So oh that was really cool.
- 8:38S1: So this is really cool. Everybody's sitting here going, oh great,
- 8:42S1: I missed yesterday. No you didn't. Because especially this Drew
- 8:45S1: Dickens piece. No joking. He created an AI. What did
- 8:52S1: he create?
- 8:53S3: What is it he created? Basically, it's a it's an
- 8:56S3: AI evangelism training tool. Yeah. So so the AI will
- 9:01S3: create a, a person, a character, if you will, from from.
- 9:07S1: Any world religion.
- 9:08S3: Yeah.
- 9:08S1: Of 12 world religions.
- 9:09S3: The top 12 world religions. And you can have a
- 9:12S3: conversation with this person to practice evangelizing to someone of
- 9:17S3: that religion. And at the end, it's like sitting down
- 9:19S3: and having a coffee shop conversation. You can kind of
- 9:22S3: rate the intensity of their religion and their beliefs. And
- 9:27S3: I want someone who's very Muslim, or I want someone
- 9:30S3: who's kind of culturally Muslim, and I want to talk
- 9:33S3: with them about this. And then at the end of
- 9:34S3: the conversation, the AI will kind of grade you almost
- 9:37S3: telling you what you can improve on, what you did
- 9:39S3: really well and how you can grow and practice for
- 9:42S3: real conversations.
- 9:43S4: Wow, you're.
- 9:44S1: An apologetics girl. This, this is going to sharpen people's
- 9:48S1: swords with regard to wielding the Word of God so
- 9:52S1: that we can know, okay, these are the. Because a
- 9:55S1: lot of people look at Hinduism. What do we really
- 9:58S1: know and believe about that than we had J. Warner
- 10:00S1: Wallace on. And he said, the interesting thing about Jesus
- 10:03S1: is he's in every world religion, but only one. Is
- 10:06S1: he the atoning sacrifice. That's another. I digress, but what
- 10:10S1: drew did was he he built this through prompts. You
- 10:14S1: know how long it took him ten minutes to build
- 10:16S1: this platform?
- 10:17S3: That's crazy.
- 10:18S4: And he built it for us, for the.
- 10:19S3: For the specifically for the.
- 10:21S4: For us.
- 10:22S2: You're out one day.
- 10:23S3: I know you missed a lot.
- 10:26S4: Rally one day.
- 10:27S1: It was a.
- 10:28S4: Great.
- 10:28S1: Day. It was such a good day. We're shutting down
- 10:30S1: the rest of.
- 10:31S2: The days off.
- 10:31S4: Maybe that's.
- 10:32S2: No no no no.
- 10:33S1: No no no no. But but in all seriousness, boom crew,
- 10:37S1: you've got to get this tool from Drew Dickens. And
- 10:41S1: the way to do it is to grab the show cast.
- 10:43S1: Go back yesterday, take a listen to it, I mean,
- 10:48S1: I was gobsmacked. I'm like, wow, wow, what a tool.
- 10:52S3: It was a week's worth in one day, that's for sure.
- 10:55S2: Absolutely. Was there a key word at the risk of
- 10:57S2: doing some live on air stuff?
- 10:59S1: Yeah, you can go. You you can go to drew. Yeah.
- 11:02S1: You can keyword drew to 805, five, five, 78, 98.
- 11:07S1: Or you can get the show cast and list, or
- 11:10S1: you can get the show cast and listen to the
- 11:12S1: whole interview if you'd like that. So you can text
- 11:15S1: the word show to 805 five, five, 78, 98. Boy,
- 11:19S1: we've been all around Macready's barn here, man.
- 11:22S3: Worth it.
- 11:23S1: Oh my goodness, Ali, you will love this little thing.
- 11:27S2: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna check it out. I'm looking at
- 11:30S2: the link now, so I'm definitely going to get caught up.
- 11:34S1: Well, well, I was talking with him. I thought, oh,
- 11:36S1: Ali kiddo is gonna dig this one big time.
- 11:39S2: Oh, boy. Okay. I'm looking forward to it.
- 11:41S1: Yeah. Okay. All right. Uh, we're moving on here. Oh,
- 11:45S1: I said I had a question. Is this too much?
- 11:48S3: Uh, no.
- 11:48S1: Oh, yeah. So? So here's the deal. The whole theme
- 11:51S1: this week is the unstoppable gospel. And. One of the
- 11:58S1: coolest things that we find in Scripture. Second Corinthians 517. Um,
- 12:05S1: I'm a new creation. The old has passed away. The
- 12:08S1: new has come. So we're going to take your calls
- 12:11S1: right now about a simple like on the nose question,
- 12:18S1: what passed away and what became new. Now think about
- 12:23S1: that a second. So when you're a new creation in Jesus,
- 12:29S1: the old has passed away. All things have become new.
- 12:33S1: As a matter of fact. But we're just asking you
- 12:37S1: what passed away, what died, and what became new in
- 12:40S1: your life when you were radically transformed by the grace
- 12:43S1: of God, I want you to call in right now
- 12:47S1: 805 557898. Give us a call. What passed away? What
- 12:53S1: became new? Let's go. Light em up. Be bold with
- 12:57S1: the gospel here today. What did God do in you?
- 12:59S1: 805 five, five, 78, 98.
- 13:04S5: You're listening to Carl and Crew on Moody Radio.
- 13:08S1: Who am I to deny what the Lord can do?
- 13:10S1: And he can. We're talking the unstoppable gospel all week long.
- 13:13S1: Check this out. This is this is interesting. I'm going
- 13:17S1: to get into this a little bit later today. Therefore,
- 13:19S1: if anyone is in Christ, he's a new creation. The
- 13:21S1: old has passed away. Behold, the new has come. Uh,
- 13:25S1: let me get into it right now. Okay. This is
- 13:27S1: one of my heartaches that we get here from time
- 13:29S1: to time. Uh, often is people lack assurance of salvation, right?
- 13:35S2: Yes.
- 13:36S1: Big time. Now, there's two things going on. Some people
- 13:40S1: lack assurance of salvation because they aren't saved. straight up.
- 13:44S1: That's a very real present danger in the West today.
- 13:49S1: Full stop.
- 13:50S3: Sure. I have assurance of salvation. What's that? I said
- 13:53S3: I didn't have assurance of salvation. Uh, 6 or 7
- 13:56S3: years ago. It's because I wasn't saved.
- 13:58S1: You weren't born again. And. And some of the things
- 14:02S1: that you grapple for, for assurance of salvation are very
- 14:05S1: skin deep. It's like attendance and involvement and it's religious activity. Okay.
- 14:11S1: That's Matthew seven. And many on that day will appeal
- 14:15S1: to religious activity. And I don't blame you for kind
- 14:19S1: of leaning back on that, because that's a common Western
- 14:22S1: metric for am I a Christian? Right?
- 14:25S2: Yes. AM I doing a Christian things? Things. Yeah.
- 14:30S1: Yeah. So therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he's a
- 14:35S1: new creation. The old has passed away. The new has come.
- 14:38S1: This is a great passage of a spiritual reality that
- 14:43S1: is going to bring forth change. Some of the old
- 14:49S1: stuff is going to die. If you can't look at
- 14:53S1: stuff that has died in your relationship with Christ and
- 14:57S1: new stuff that's come in. It could be God's dinner
- 15:01S1: bell that you're not born again. Fair enough.
- 15:03S3: Fair enough, fair enough.
- 15:05S1: So you go to Romans 813. Is it 813? Yes.
- 15:10S1: The Spirit of God agrees. If we're born of God,
- 15:13S1: the Spirit of God agrees with our spirit that we
- 15:16S1: are children of God. The Holy Spirit will speak into
- 15:20S1: our spirit. Little s big s little s will speak
- 15:24S1: into our souls that we are children of God. There
- 15:27S1: will be a connection at a spirit level with the
- 15:33S1: Holy Spirit saying, you're my kid. And I would say.
- 15:39S1: You are one of the one of the greatest things
- 15:42S1: that you can do is begin to look at the
- 15:45S1: word and go, okay, what is true of genuine followers
- 15:49S1: of Jesus? I just gave you two, three things. Actually,
- 15:52S1: old stuff dies, new stuff comes and the Holy Spirit
- 15:59S1: speaks into our spirit. We're children of God now we're
- 16:04S1: getting into meat and potatoes stuff here. You know what
- 16:06S1: I mean?
- 16:07S2: Yeah, I mean, and okay, so someone's listening and going,
- 16:10S2: so I'm supposed to hear this voice that says, you're
- 16:14S2: my kid. Like, what is that? What does that look like?
- 16:17S1: It it is as simple as that. Now it's going
- 16:20S1: to feel really obtuse and elusive for lost people, but
- 16:25S1: I can I was kind of pressure testing this yesterday
- 16:28S1: when we were talking about this on my own self.
- 16:32S1: I have definitely when I listen to the Lord, I
- 16:37S1: hear a couple of things from the Holy Spirit. I
- 16:39S1: hear a lot of conviction of where I've got to change.
- 16:42S1: I hear a lot of conviction. This morning I got
- 16:46S1: up early and I. And I was reading Proverbs and
- 16:49S1: I read about 30 of them. And I'm like, oh,
- 16:51S1: for crying out loud. No joking. I'm like, you gotta
- 16:57S1: be kidding me. Carl, you are a piece of work
- 16:59S1: in the Holy Spirit said to me, yeah, and he did. Look,
- 17:03S1: you're a piece of work. We're going to constantly change.
- 17:06S1: You're constantly becoming what I'm turning you into. But you're
- 17:13S1: my kid, and I'm absolutely convinced that there is a
- 17:19S1: spiritual conversation just because the the word says it, the
- 17:24S1: Holy Spirit will agree with your spirit that you are
- 17:27S1: children of God.
- 17:29S2: Romans 8161616.
- 17:32S3: Yeah, I've seen that in my own life too. I
- 17:34S3: had that, I don't know, a couple months ago where
- 17:37S3: sometimes Satan tries to come at me. I mean, my
- 17:40S3: whole thing was the illusion of salvation. And sometimes Satan
- 17:43S3: will come at me saying, how do you know you're
- 17:44S3: not still there? You know, and he throws things at
- 17:46S3: me and where I'm not perfect because obviously life's not
- 17:49S3: being about being perfect. But Satan would like to make
- 17:52S3: you think it is. And I had just read that passage,
- 17:55S3: I think, the night before. And so I was like, okay, God,
- 17:58S3: say you say it that the spirit will will testify
- 18:02S3: with my spirit that I am a child of God.
- 18:04S3: I said, I said, just testify with me. I was like,
- 18:06S3: shut Satan's voice up and just talk. And he did.
- 18:10S3: And he said, you're my kid, I got you, I
- 18:13S3: love you. And I said, okay, cool. I was like,
- 18:15S3: I'll continue to grow with you, but I'm not gonna
- 18:18S3: let that voice be the one talking.
- 18:20S1: Isn't that great? Yeah. You know, we had 3 or
- 18:23S1: 4 callers come in here and we lost them all,
- 18:26S1: which is probably I'm taking this as from the Lord
- 18:29S1: because I'm going to linger here for a moment. But
- 18:32S1: we had somebody call in goes drug addiction, new life.
- 18:36S1: Somebody said from pride began to die in humility came alive.
- 18:41S1: And somebody said they got off cocaine. And there was
- 18:45S1: now a love for Jesus Christ. And by the way,
- 18:48S1: it's it's that real. So something passed away and something
- 18:54S1: became new. This assurance of salvation thing. Do you do
- 18:58S1: you guys remember the name Kay? Arthur?
- 19:00S4: Yes. Yeah. Okay. Of course.
- 19:02S1: Okay. Kay went on to be with the Lord, but
- 19:04S1: Janine and I got close to her and her husband
- 19:07S1: Jack for a season. It was so cool. So we're
- 19:10S1: sitting on a dock over Lake Burton in Northern. Uh,
- 19:16S1: it's a couple hours north of Atlanta, and we're. We
- 19:21S1: were just talking the Lord man talking the Lord. And
- 19:25S1: we were just going at it. And Kay came to
- 19:29S1: the point where she said, there's someone dear in my
- 19:31S1: life that has Prayed prayers. Been baptized. Went on and
- 19:38S1: on about all the religious activity. She goes and he's
- 19:42S1: not born again. I said, what's your greatest evidence of that?
- 19:46S1: And she said, there's no hunger for the word of God.
- 19:48S1: And she went through the scriptures and said, there is
- 19:52S1: going to be. Doesn't mean that you are always in
- 19:56S1: it perfectly. That's not what Kay Arthur was saying. But
- 20:00S1: she said, my sheep hear my voice, and they follow me.
- 20:06S1: And there is. There is something brand new in you
- 20:12S1: that when we're when we're regenerated, our allegiances change, guys.
- 20:21S1: And there's a hunger for the word. And you know
- 20:23S1: what God's hit me with right now? There's some of
- 20:27S1: you listening right now that you've been stuck in cultural
- 20:30S1: Christianity for so long, you don't even know it. I
- 20:35S1: know we're behind. I'll get caught up here. And I
- 20:40S1: want you to know unequivocally that the gospel is not
- 20:45S1: raising your hand to get some fire insurance from hell
- 20:49S1: when no one's looking, by the way. That's the added
- 20:51S1: little stickler there. It's not walking down an aisle, but
- 20:55S1: never following Jesus Christ. The gospel is a gospel of repentance.
- 21:02S1: That's what Jesus sent his disciples out to speak of repentance.
- 21:07S1: Now this is a change of mind of your perspective
- 21:13S1: of Jesus. He he becomes Lord, authority, ruler of every
- 21:17S1: square inch of who you are and all that you have.
- 21:23S1: One of the coolest things, the coolest discoveries I've had
- 21:27S1: is Matthew 25, the parable of the talents. A lot
- 21:31S1: of people preach that saying, oh, you got to move
- 21:33S1: from a one talent person to a 2 or 5
- 21:35S1: talent person because the two and five talent guys, they reinvest,
- 21:40S1: they gave all representing all that they are, they they
- 21:44S1: reinvested that. And the one talent person out of fear
- 21:50S1: of God is what that parable is talking about. Buried it.
- 21:56S1: And here's what's true. When you are brand new in Christ,
- 22:00S1: you become a 2 or 5 talent person. Nothing is
- 22:06S1: withheld from God. Is that perfection? Nope. Are there going
- 22:09S1: to be battles along the way? Yep. But everything inside
- 22:12S1: your spiritual DNA says the grace of God is so powerful. Time, talent, treasure.
- 22:20S1: Everything I have is yours, God. It's all yours, God.
- 22:26S1: And so I just want to ask you. If nothing
- 22:31S1: passed away and nothing became new other than more religious activity.
- 22:39S1: And if you've never heard the voice of the Holy
- 22:41S1: Spirit speaking into your spirit, you're my kid. Could it
- 22:48S1: be that you've never come into faith with Jesus Christ
- 22:52S1: and you are a cultural Christian? And right now, the
- 22:57S1: Holy Spirit's revealing to you, that's that's me, that's me.
- 23:03S1: And this is awesome. This isn't bad. This is this
- 23:07S1: is great, isn't it, Ali?
- 23:09S2: It is because the awareness of that means there's possibility
- 23:14S2: for change.
- 23:16S1: Like in now.
- 23:17S2: That's that's the gift is that when he allows you
- 23:19S2: to see it, he does something about it.
- 23:25S1: So here's what I know. The wisest among us in
- 23:30S1: this moment. Right now. Look in the mirror of your
- 23:32S1: soul and go, whoa! My biggest problem in life is me.
- 23:38S1: Because all have sinned and fall short of the glory
- 23:41S1: of God. All we like sheep have gone astray, each
- 23:45S1: to his own way. You can go to church and
- 23:49S1: still be going your own way. Trust me, I did
- 23:52S1: it for years and many millions of people are doing
- 23:57S1: it today. In this moment, I want you to cry
- 24:05S1: out to God and go, I'm a sinner. I need
- 24:07S1: a Savior. Because the Spirit of God is illuminating for
- 24:10S1: you what life in Jesus is, and he wants to
- 24:14S1: free you from you. First and foremost. And those are
- 24:22S1: more than words. That's a cry of the soul. And
- 24:25S1: right now, in this moment, repentance means turning from the
- 24:29S1: broad path, turning onto the narrow path, and on that
- 24:32S1: narrow path you will know that you've been born again
- 24:38S1: because you've got open hands right now. Your heart is
- 24:42S1: so tender before God. Your time, your talent, your treasure,
- 24:46S1: your future, your hopes, your dreams. They're all at the
- 24:49S1: disposal of God. You're a 2 or 5 talent person,
- 24:52S1: and before today, you are a one talent person. Very
- 24:55S1: religious possibly, but living with the scarcity mindset, you were bound,
- 25:01S1: chained to earth with all of its systems. And today
- 25:04S1: everything's changed. If that's you, just text the word new
- 25:07S1: right now, right now, wherever you are. If God is
- 25:10S1: transforming your soul in this moment and you know it,
- 25:15S1: and it's never, ever happened like this right now, surrender
- 25:21S1: all you are to Jesus. Get to the side of
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- 25:29S1: to get a Bible sent. You're going to have an opportunity.
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- 25:37S1: that's going to show you how to find a church
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- 25:43S1: your relationship with God. Just text the word new right now,
- 25:45S1: wherever you are. Today is your day of salvation to 805, five, five, 78,
- 25:52S1: 981 word new 800 555, 7898. God loves you so much.
- 26:02S1: He changed where we were going here in this half
- 26:05S1: hour for you. That's how much he loves you. Just
- 26:09S1: text the word new when you get a chance to 805, five, five, 78, 98,
- 26:15S1: we're going to help you in your first steps with Jesus.
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- 26:56S1: here in a moment, I sat down with J. Warner.
- 26:58S1: Wallace who? Baby, I gotta tell you, it is time
- 27:03S1: for us to really get serious about the unstoppable gospel.
- 27:07S1: And there's a reason that Jesus is changing everything. Hang on.
- 27:13S5: Walking closer to Jesus every day. You're listening to Carl
- 27:17S5: and crew.
- 27:18S1: This whole week we're talking the unstoppable gospel. And I
- 27:22S1: had a crazy thought here just two days ago. And
- 27:26S1: I thought, all right, let's look at world religions. How
- 27:30S1: many have penetrated and cross cultural divides and reach people
- 27:34S1: from multiple language groups? J Warner Wallace. It ain't even close.
- 27:39S1: Christianity is. I mean, it ain't even close. Is one
- 27:42S1: of the greatest evidences of the historicity and deity of Jesus.
- 27:48S1: The way the message of the gospel has transcended time, culture, space, matter.
- 27:55S1: Is that part of it?
- 27:56S6: Absolutely. Look, we always say this, right? Because it's true
- 27:59S6: that all the power is in the gospel. And when
- 28:02S6: I say the power is in the gospel, I mean
- 28:04S6: this idea that God would descend into his creation and
- 28:07S6: take the form of a human to pay the price
- 28:09S6: for our moral imperfection, so we don't have to pay
- 28:11S6: it ourselves, because there's no way we could ever attain
- 28:14S6: moral perfection. And if there's a God that's holy enough
- 28:17S6: to create everything from nothing, he certainly has the power
- 28:19S6: to eliminate his own moral imperfection. Yes. So we're dealing
- 28:23S6: with a morally perfect God. The only way to be
- 28:25S6: reconciled to that God is, is to take on the
- 28:28S6: perfection of something, of somebody we couldn't be. Our perfection
- 28:30S6: has to be somebody else's. But here's the difference, is
- 28:33S6: that it turns out that that kind of God, with
- 28:35S6: that kind of power could easily have just made it
- 28:38S6: so that at, you know, at birth, every one of
- 28:40S6: us understood the gospel innately. Or at our 10th birthday,
- 28:45S6: we would have a dream and we would hear the gospel.
- 28:49S6: That kind of God could do that, right? Instead, what
- 28:51S6: does that God do? He descends into earth and has eyewitnesses,
- 28:55S6: right the accounts and establish him in history.
- 28:59S1: Yes.
- 29:00S6: Why? Why would why would you take this evidential approach
- 29:03S6: when clearly, if there is a God of this nature,
- 29:05S6: he could bypass all of that. Well, because he wants
- 29:08S6: us to have the level of certainty that comes with
- 29:11S6: with the evidence that show me Jesus said it all
- 29:14S6: the time. You don't have to believe what I'm telling you.
- 29:16S6: You can believe on the eyewitnesses. You could believe on
- 29:19S6: John the Baptist direct evidence, or you could believe on
- 29:21S6: the miracles I've worked in front of you. Indirect evidence.
- 29:24S6: So I've given you forms of evidence that you could
- 29:27S6: use to determine that I am who I say I am. Now,
- 29:30S6: why does God take that approach? I think he understands
- 29:33S6: our fallen nature. Yes. And it is our fallen nature
- 29:36S6: that requires that causes us to be so skeptical to
- 29:39S6: begin with. There is no other theistic worldview that does
- 29:44S6: this the way that Christianity does. In other words, if
- 29:46S6: I was a Buddhist, how would I know that the
- 29:48S6: teaching of Buddhism is true? I could say I like it.
- 29:52S6: It makes sense. It works for me. But there's nothing
- 29:55S6: about Buddhism that makes a claim about history. We could test. Yeah.
- 30:00S6: It's just a series of proverbial statements. Now, Christianity is
- 30:04S6: very different. It makes a claim not only that Jesus
- 30:06S6: said some pretty cool things or some important things that
- 30:09S6: would help us to flourish as humans. It's that he
- 30:11S6: also did something in the course of human history that
- 30:14S6: we could test. Evidentially.
- 30:16S1: Yes.
- 30:17S6: That's a very different kind of theistic claim. This difference
- 30:20S6: is important because it's going to give me confidence. Look,
- 30:23S6: I tell a story in this cold case, Christianity, where
- 30:25S6: there was a guy who was got in a gunfight
- 30:27S6: and because he knew he was wearing his bulletproof vest
- 30:29S6: and he had seen that vest stop bullets in the range,
- 30:33S6: he had the calm to just trust his vest. He
- 30:36S6: knew he was going to take the first couple of rounds,
- 30:38S6: but he had a vest and he knew Evidentially based
- 30:41S6: on what he saw on the range, that it could
- 30:43S6: stop bullets. And he stood calmly in the gunfight because
- 30:48S6: he had good reason to trust the vest. I think
- 30:51S6: God wants us to have the same kind of good reasons.
- 30:53S1: Yeah. For sure. J Warner Wallace, my guest right now,
- 30:56S1: he is a Dateline featured cold case homicide detective for years,
- 31:01S1: popular national speaker, podcast host, bestselling author. And he's got
- 31:04S1: some of the best goods on apologetics you can imagine.
- 31:08S1: So let's just break it down. It seems to me
- 31:13S1: if you're looking for anecdotal evidence of a Messiah That
- 31:19S1: for people in Iran right now to fully and joyfully
- 31:26S1: share what Jesus has done in in them at risk
- 31:29S1: of losing life and limb. And many are. And in
- 31:32S1: Afghanistan and in India, under the new regime there. It
- 31:36S1: is not in vogue to be a Christian. Very dangerous.
- 31:40S1: There are so many evidences, but J. Warner, I don't
- 31:43S1: want to move past that. That is huge, isn't it
- 31:46S1: right there?
- 31:47S6: Well it is here's why I say that. Look, it's
- 31:49S6: not as though these other systems haven't already embraced Jesus
- 31:53S6: in one form or another. This is a crazy impact
- 31:56S6: of Jesus on culture, so much so that no one
- 31:58S6: is impacted literature, art, music, education, world religions, science more
- 32:04S6: than Jesus and his followers. Here's what I mean. If
- 32:07S6: you're a Buddhist, the teachers of Buddhism today will acknowledge
- 32:10S6: Jesus as a Buddha vista, as somebody who is in
- 32:13S6: within their system certainly makes sense within their system. Often
- 32:17S6: they will quote the statements of Jesus, these leaders. They
- 32:20S6: will quote the life of Jesus as it's recorded in
- 32:23S6: the Gospels. If you're a Baha'i, you've already included Jesus
- 32:27S6: as one of the manifestations of God. If you're a Muslim,
- 32:30S6: he's in the Quran. Jesus penetrates other world religions in
- 32:34S6: a way that he does not allow. So there's no Buddha,
- 32:38S6: obviously pre-existed Jesus on earth, yet Jesus makes no room
- 32:42S6: for Buddha. Within Christianity, Buddhism makes room for Jesus within Buddhism,
- 32:47S6: but Jesus makes no room in the other direction. So
- 32:50S6: what we would say is you probably already have. You
- 32:52S6: could assemble the rough outline of Jesus's life just from
- 32:56S6: the teachers and scriptures of Baha'i and Islam and Hinduism
- 33:01S6: and Buddhism. Because these teachers and systems acknowledge Jesus in
- 33:05S6: a way that Jesus does not do in return. So
- 33:08S6: there's a sense in which you ought to know something
- 33:11S6: about Jesus, even if you're in a culture that is not,
- 33:14S6: you know, culturally Christian. And that speaks to me about
- 33:17S6: the power of the gospel, the power of Jesus. No
- 33:20S6: single human in the history of humans has had this
- 33:23S6: kind of impact, not just on the West, globally, in
- 33:27S6: the history of humans. You know, the first century was
- 33:30S6: not the first century of human history. There were centuries
- 33:33S6: before the first century. We are calling this the common era.
- 33:36S6: We call that the first century, because it turns out
- 33:39S6: something amazing happened, and it's grounded in the birth, life, ministry, death,
- 33:45S6: resurrection of Jesus.
- 33:46S1: Yeah, they've even changed those letters in iterations because they
- 33:50S1: want to veer clear of before Christ. And yeah, but.
- 33:53S6: What makes this the common era in which we all
- 33:55S6: decide commonly to embrace the same dating system?
- 33:58S1: Jesus is the hinge point.
- 34:00S6: First century.
- 34:01S1: It's Jesus. I mean, he's the endpoint. Okay, J Warner,
- 34:05S1: you've given us phenomenal stuff over the years. Amazing stuff.
- 34:09S1: We're going to give you a link to one of
- 34:11S1: the best sites going for apologetics. I mean, whether it's
- 34:16S1: the 500 people that Paul referred to that were testimony
- 34:20S1: to the resurrection of Jesus, and how that couldn't have
- 34:23S1: been without them having that in them and so many
- 34:27S1: other things. J. Warner What is the one singular? I
- 34:31S1: don't know how you're going to do this. What's the
- 34:33S1: single best evidence that demands someone to grapple with the
- 34:42S1: deity and the salvific nature of Jesus Christ?
- 34:47S6: I'm going to give you something weird. Okay? Because to me,
- 34:50S6: I'm a cumulative case guy. All my cold cases are
- 34:52S6: built cumulatively on, you know, a death by a thousand
- 34:55S6: paper cuts. So I think the case for Christianity is
- 34:57S6: very similar. It's death by a thousand paper cuts. But
- 34:59S6: there's one weird piece of evidence that I would like
- 35:02S6: you to consider, and it's something no one ever talks about. Okay.
- 35:04S6: It turns out all secular studies show that if you
- 35:07S6: will simply embrace this one attitude, you will flourish at
- 35:10S6: the highest levels. It's a weird attribute that seems hidden,
- 35:14S6: but if you will simply embrace it, you will make
- 35:16S6: more money, have better physical health, mental health, deeper relationships.
- 35:19S6: Every way we measure human better achievements, better leadership, be
- 35:23S6: a better person to be led. All those things.
- 35:26S1: I'm dying to know. I would say it's humility.
- 35:28S6: Yes, it is humility. And it's the secular studies show this.
- 35:31S6: But think about it. There's only one worldview that develops humility.
- 35:35S6: All doing worldviews just develop pride because you're comparing yourself
- 35:40S6: to somebody else and saying, I'm doing more. Secularism is
- 35:44S6: a doing worldview. Do do, do do get the degree.
- 35:46S6: Do do do do, get the job, get the girl,
- 35:48S6: get the promotion, whatever it is you got to do
- 35:50S6: to get it. This is also true, though, of every
- 35:53S6: other theistic worldview. You're right to do the Ten Commandments.
- 35:56S6: Got to do the the noble truths. You got it.
- 35:58S6: Whatever it is, every system is built on. If you
- 36:01S6: do these things, you get the highest reward that our
- 36:04S6: God is offering in order to develop a system that
- 36:07S6: would actually give you incentivize humility. The one thing that
- 36:11S6: causes humans to flourish at the highest level. You'd have
- 36:14S6: to design a worldview that is not a doing worldview.
- 36:17S6: It's a done worldview. There's only one of those. It's
- 36:21S6: called Christianity, where nothing you do can actually give you
- 36:24S6: the highest reward. It's what's been done for you. Why,
- 36:28S6: says Paul, so that nobody can boast. So I can
- 36:31S6: take all of the pride out. And when you develop
- 36:33S6: this kind of humility, you flourish. Now, it could be
- 36:36S6: an accident. It could be coincidental that the one thing
- 36:39S6: that causes humans to flourish, humility is best and only
- 36:42S6: represented by the one done worldview. Christianity. Jesus did it.
- 36:47S6: I don't have to do it. That could be a coincidence.
- 36:50S6: Or it could just be that this is an evidence
- 36:52S6: that this is worldview of your designer. Who knows how
- 36:55S6: you've been designed and what's best for you. I actually
- 36:58S6: think humility is one of those weird, hidden kind of
- 37:02S6: evidences for the truth of Christianity.
- 37:04S1: J. Warner That is one of the greatest evidences so
- 37:10S1: clearly articulated. That is mind boggling right there. Have you
- 37:14S1: utilized that with people before?
- 37:17S6: Well, we do a lot with cops because I spend
- 37:19S6: a lot of time in the summer doing marriage resiliency
- 37:22S6: for police officers who have been involved in critical incidents,
- 37:24S6: and now they're injured. They're not quite sure who they are.
- 37:26S6: They can't work anymore. It's like the whole life feels
- 37:29S6: like it's over. And a lot of it is because
- 37:31S6: we put our pride and our achievements in our job.
- 37:34S6: And it turns out that you can give people tools
- 37:36S6: for their marriage. But until they know the tool maker,
- 37:39S6: it's kind of a waste of time. I can give
- 37:41S6: you guidance, but until you know the guide, it's kind
- 37:43S6: of a waste of time. Totally. So what I have
- 37:45S6: to do is help young people who are younger than me,
- 37:47S6: who will just kind of bend their knee in humility
- 37:50S6: and say, yeah, there is a God and I'm not him.
- 37:53S6: That's the first step toward the Christian worldview. And of course,
- 37:57S6: it's the one thing that Christianity offers that no other
- 37:59S6: worldview can really offer. Humility.
- 38:02S1: Oh my goodness. J. Warner. Wallace. Everybody. Um, okay. Somebody says,
- 38:09S1: all right, I'm going to text in a key word
- 38:11S1: and I'll give it to you in a moment. If
- 38:13S1: you could guide people through your website, what do you
- 38:15S1: want them to see? What do you want them to learn?
- 38:17S1: What do you want them to do?
- 38:19S6: Well, here's the thing. Most of us, when we ask ourselves,
- 38:22S6: why are we a Christian? And I've asked that question
- 38:24S6: across the country for years, and this is something I
- 38:27S6: wrote about in forensic faith. But I think it's important
- 38:29S6: because people will typically say the number one response is,
- 38:32S6: I was raised this way. That's why this is true
- 38:35S6: for everyone. Globally, you typically hold the worldview, most likely
- 38:38S6: hold the worldview that your parents held before you. That's
- 38:41S6: why some systems, like Islam, grow on the basis of
- 38:44S6: birth rate. Because the higher the birth rate, the more
- 38:46S6: likely you are to have people who will agree with
- 38:48S6: their parents. Now, the other view that people will say, well,
- 38:51S6: I'm a Christian, because I had an experience that demonstrated
- 38:53S6: for me that Christianity was true. I totally get it.
- 38:56S6: Those are two good reasons to be a Christian, but
- 38:58S6: they aren't sufficient because those are also the two reasons
- 39:00S6: that my LDS family will tell me that they're LDS.
- 39:04S1: In the bosom.
- 39:05S6: Yeah, right. They've had an experience that demonstrated that Joseph
- 39:07S6: Smith is a prophet of God, and the Book of
- 39:08S6: Mormon is true, and they were raised this way. Okay.
- 39:12S6: The fact those two things can be true for you,
- 39:14S6: but that doesn't mean that the system you're in is true.
- 39:17S6: We have to ask ourselves, was that experience actually grounded
- 39:20S6: in something evidential? Do I have good reason to believe
- 39:22S6: that this is the God of the universe that caused
- 39:24S6: that experience for me? That's why holding an evidential view.
- 39:27S6: It's not just that it will lead you to the truth.
- 39:29S6: It can also protect you from error. Because when I
- 39:32S6: first tested the Book of Mormon, because my family, they're
- 39:34S6: all atheists, but my stepmother and six kids over there
- 39:38S6: are LDS. I wanted to know, is that true? I
- 39:41S6: didn't know what was true. I was 35, but I
- 39:43S6: did have an investigative template, so I simply tested the
- 39:46S6: Gospels and I tested the Book of Mormon. I always
- 39:48S6: tell people I became a Christian the same day I
- 39:50S6: became a non-Mormon. That's because I knew that one system
- 39:53S6: was verified by the evidence. The other system was falsified
- 39:58S6: by the evidence. And so I needed to know which
- 40:00S6: is true. It turns out this kind of an approach
- 40:02S6: can not only lead you to truth, it can protect
- 40:04S6: you from error. And that's why it's important for us
- 40:06S6: to have a more forensic view of this. And all
- 40:08S6: the word forensic means is that you can make the
- 40:10S6: case publicly that it comes from a Latin word, forensics,
- 40:13S6: which just says basically to make public, to make known publicly.
- 40:17S6: And if you want to share your faith, how about
- 40:20S6: we take it a uniquely Christian way of sharing it?
- 40:23S6: Because every worldview says that I had an experience and
- 40:26S6: I was raised this way. You could do better than that.
- 40:28S6: You could actually have the experience and have been raised
- 40:31S6: that way, but also know that it's evidentially true. Let's
- 40:34S6: try adding that to the equation.
- 40:36S1: And you know, I believe practically you talk about Holy
- 40:40S1: Spirit filling and we're called to be filled with the spirit.
- 40:43S1: Nothing fills us with the spirit more than the assimilation
- 40:48S1: of bedrock truth. Whenever I have a truth internalized, I
- 40:54S1: overflow simultaneously with that. I'm not wrong on that one,
- 40:57S1: am I? J. Warner.
- 40:58S6: Well, no, because we're called to worship God with all
- 41:00S6: of our mind as part of the way we worship.
- 41:02S6: You can worship by singing worship. You can worship through
- 41:04S6: your service. You can worship by the devotion of your life.
- 41:07S6: The question is, you can also worship by saying, hey,
- 41:10S6: I can make a case for this. Look, there are
- 41:12S6: people right now who can make a case for why
- 41:14S6: their team is going to do well in the NFL
- 41:16S6: this year. They've seen a couple of preseason games. They
- 41:19S6: know what the draft is. They can tell you all
- 41:20S6: the minutiae related to the draft and related to the
- 41:23S6: preseason games, but they can't do the same thing when
- 41:25S6: it comes to the scriptures. Well, you kind of know
- 41:27S6: what their God is, and it's whatever it is you're
- 41:30S6: most geeked out about. That's where your gods lie now.
- 41:33S6: You're where you're spending your thought life, wherever you're spending
- 41:36S6: your discretionary income, whatever it is. I can't question because
- 41:39S6: if I do, you'll get upset. Whatever it is that
- 41:41S6: you can't wait to do that. These are the things
- 41:43S6: that give us indicators of what we worship. And but
- 41:46S6: make no mistake about it, you will put your identity
- 41:49S6: in whatever it is you're devoted to. If you spend
- 41:52S6: a lot of time practicing your golf swing, spending money
- 41:54S6: on clubs, all of that stuff, you're going to a party.
- 41:57S6: You say, what? What do you do? Oh, I golf. Oh, okay.
- 42:00S6: You see what's happening? You put your identity in the
- 42:03S6: things you worship. Yeah. And it turns out we need
- 42:05S6: to put our identity in Christ. You know, Paul says this.
- 42:08S6: It doesn't call Christians Christians. He calls Christians those who
- 42:11S6: are in Christ. Yeah. So it turns out we probably
- 42:15S6: ought to think about that a little more seriously and
- 42:17S6: put our identity where it belongs.
- 42:18S1: Blow your metal in here today. And this is really good.
- 42:21S1: All right. Text the word case right now. Get to
- 42:24S1: this website. Boom crew. Listen to me. This is going
- 42:27S1: to put fuel in your belly because of the truth.
- 42:30S1: That will rattle around in your mind. And it will
- 42:33S1: now I. This is what I'm convinced of. I think
- 42:36S1: you will begin to redirect what you geek out about.
- 42:40S1: And I truly believe this. I think out of the
- 42:43S1: void of information, we are more concerned about how the
- 42:47S1: bears are going to do in football this year. But
- 42:49S1: you get a little taste and you begin to experience God.
- 42:53S1: Look out. Text the word case to 800 555, 7898.
- 42:58S1: Get there guys. Share this site. This is profound stuff.
- 43:02S1: Text case to 805 557898.
- 43:08S5: Celebrating the unstoppable gospel.
- 43:11S3: It's not that I've got to fill in these check boxes,
- 43:13S3: so he's okay with me, but it's that I get
- 43:15S3: to stand close to him so that I can experience
- 43:18S3: the life that he has for me.
- 43:20S5: You're listening to cast and Crew.
- 43:22S1: I want you to think about this right now. What
- 43:25S1: is it that passed away in what became new? My goodness.
- 43:29S1: It's and it's probably hard to pin it down to
- 43:33S1: 1 or 2 things, right?
- 43:34S2: Well, if it's true that everything about us becomes new.
- 43:38S4: But there's always something that floats to the top. It's like, boom,
- 43:41S4: that's it.
- 43:42S1: That's.
- 43:42S4: It, that's it.
- 43:43S1: What was it for you? Super day.
- 43:44S4: Oh, revenge. I revenge died for me.
- 43:47S1: Yeah. That is.
- 43:49S4: Okay. I mean, that's one of the most powerful things
- 43:51S4: going to the top for me. Yeah. Revenge died. Yeah,
- 43:56S4: I was snarky, I was. Yeah. Don't cross me.
- 44:00S1: Don't cross.
- 44:01S4: Super di. Do not cross me. Yeah.
- 44:06S1: What became new? What became new?
- 44:08S4: I mean.
- 44:09S1: Really?
- 44:10S4: Yeah. Love for people. Seeing them through God's eyes. You
- 44:14S4: think they're loved?
- 44:15S1: You didn't come born that way.
- 44:18S4: No, no, no, I did not.
- 44:20S1: I became born again. That way.
- 44:22S4: I became born again. Yeah. I came born with revenge.
- 44:25S4: But then I became born again. God's love. And I
- 44:30S4: want people to know that and feel it and live it.
- 44:37S1: You're a good kid.
- 44:38S4: Trying. I'm perfectly imperfect, but I'm trying.
- 44:43S1: Yeah. My buddy calls him beautiful mess.
- 44:45S4: Yeah.
- 44:46S1: He says every. Everyone on this side of glory that's
- 44:48S1: born again is a beautiful mess.
- 44:50S4: That's true.
- 44:51S1: I love that. And this is a wise dude, man.
- 44:54S1: He's pastored a ton of people. When he said that,
- 44:56S1: I go, I'm, I'm, I'm right there. This is why
- 44:59S1: you got to look at the progression of the Apostle Paul.
- 45:02S1: Quick nanosecond here. Um, when he was born again, he
- 45:07S1: called himself the chief of the sinners as compared to
- 45:11S1: the apostles. Then he called him. Let's see, what's the progression? Yeah. Chief.
- 45:17S1: Chief of sinners with regard, not chief of sinners. I'm.
- 45:20S1: I'm the least of all the apostles. Then he goes,
- 45:23S1: I'm the least of all saints. Then at the end
- 45:26S1: of his life, he goes, I'm the chief of all sinners,
- 45:30S1: which which reveals what?
- 45:33S3: The humility he's recognizing that he's not perfect. And he's
- 45:37S3: saying like, yeah, look at me. If I'm the chief
- 45:40S3: of sinners and what God does in me, I think
- 45:43S3: it just gives us hope for like, okay, we're all
- 45:45S3: in the same boat here together. There's not one that
- 45:48S3: is better than another. We don't we shouldn't be walking
- 45:51S3: around with pride saying, oh, look how great I am
- 45:53S3: and look at all the good things I'm doing. If
- 45:56S3: Paul says he's the chief of sinners, what do I
- 45:58S3: have to say about what I've done with my life.
- 46:00S4: Yeah. What what.
- 46:02S1: What do.
- 46:02S4: We do?
- 46:03S1: Especially Ali. We're in the world.
- 46:06S4: You know.
- 46:07S2: Hey, I'll take it.
- 46:08S1: Okay. Coming up here, I. I just can't stand what
- 46:14S1: is not happening in Iran. I can't stand it that
- 46:18S1: the ayatollahs are there. And the the oppressive government has
- 46:24S1: just got its foot on the neck of the gospel
- 46:26S1: and freedom for everyone. Uh, but let's get an update
- 46:30S1: from Lana Silk. Hang on.
- 46:32S5: Tune in whenever you like. Check out the Cast and
- 46:35S5: Crew podcast wherever you like to stream.
- 46:38S1: Lana Silk. I'm. It drives me absolutely crazy. I want
- 46:43S1: so badly for this brutal regime to be toppled in Iran.
- 46:47S1: And if I got passion for that, sister, you've got
- 46:50S1: it squared. It's heartbreaking, isn't it?
- 46:53S7: It is heartbreaking. And I am so blessed by the
- 46:56S7: fact that you care so much about it. Carl, it
- 46:59S7: really is encouraging for us to hear that.
- 47:01S1: It breaks my heart because how many people? 90 million.
- 47:06S1: How many people in Iran? I forget the number.
- 47:08S7: Yeah, about 90. There are no accurate numbers. 88 to 93.
- 47:12S7: Anything to that?
- 47:13S1: Okay. And 90% of those want out from under this
- 47:18S1: brutal regime. I mean, if they aren't somehow getting money
- 47:21S1: from the regime via directly or indirectly Republican Guard or
- 47:26S1: family that works with that regime, somehow they want out
- 47:29S1: from under it. And it just it feels like we've
- 47:34S1: got brothers and sisters, millions that are going to toil
- 47:38S1: underneath this thing. And yet they are not they they
- 47:42S1: have to have moments of discouragement, but they're not dissuaded
- 47:45S1: from the gospel, are they, Lana.
- 47:47S7: Exactly right. It is. It is discouraging. It is very hard.
- 47:51S7: It's also practically difficult because we're talking about people who
- 47:54S7: are struggling to make ends meet, you know, get food
- 47:57S7: on the table, pay rent. So there's a day to
- 48:00S7: day struggle. But their courage and their faith is wonderfully inspiring.
- 48:06S7: And they are still visiting people, sharing the gospel, seeing
- 48:10S7: people saved. It's wonderful.
- 48:12S2: Lana Silk, our guest this morning, president and chief executive
- 48:15S2: officer with the ministry, called Transform Iran six months, nearly
- 48:19S2: six months now into this war. Give us some of
- 48:22S2: the latest updates from your perspective.
- 48:24S7: We've been through cycles, Ali. You know, people having audacity
- 48:28S7: and courage to stand up and protest and fight through
- 48:31S7: to a submission and an under the pressure of it all.
- 48:36S7: Last week I was sent videos of people who are
- 48:39S7: going through hunger strikes now in prisons. Literally watch them.
- 48:43S7: Video of a man having his lips sewn together in
- 48:46S7: protest over what the government is doing to his people.
- 48:49S7: These are not believers. These are regular people who are
- 48:52S7: being squashed by the government, silenced by the government. Just
- 48:56S7: a week or so ago, a 22 year old boy
- 48:59S7: was executed because he nursed people after the protest, not
- 49:05S7: because he protested, but because he helped those who had
- 49:08S7: been injured in the protests. He was a medical student
- 49:11S7: and he was executed. So, you know, this is the
- 49:13S7: kind of thing that the people in Iran are dealing with,
- 49:15S7: and we go through waves of courage in fighting against it,
- 49:18S7: and then the government slams them down again.
- 49:21S1: So there's economic pressure being put on them. Here's here's
- 49:26S1: my concern. I'm not sure that the regime, they're always
- 49:30S1: going to have enough food on the table. This is
- 49:32S1: going to trickle down to the people. So what do
- 49:36S1: you do as a team outside Iran to help encourage
- 49:41S1: and equip those inside Iran, brothers and sisters in Christ?
- 49:44S1: And by the way, have you got a story of
- 49:46S1: how the gospel still marching on since the last time
- 49:49S1: we spoke with you?
- 49:50S7: I do have a story for you, Carl. Would you
- 49:52S7: like me to share it?
- 49:53S1: Oh, yeah. Let's go.
- 49:55S7: So we'll call this man Hassan. He is a fairly
- 49:59S7: young believer, but growing in his faith. And we've been
- 50:02S7: training him. So one of the things we do you
- 50:04S7: were asking the question is train people, give them resources,
- 50:07S7: give them mentoring and pastoring so that they can be
- 50:10S7: effective witnesses for Christ. And Hassan is on the program,
- 50:14S7: and he was making arrangements for a few pastors from
- 50:18S7: his region to come and visit with him and minister
- 50:21S7: to him. And at the same time, he had a
- 50:23S7: couple family birthdays, his son and his uncle. And he
- 50:25S7: was trying to separate these two events just for everyone's safety.
- 50:29S7: And for whatever reason, we believe God. It was proving impossible.
- 50:33S7: And it so happened in the end that the birthday
- 50:35S7: party with the whole extended family end up being on
- 50:38S7: the same day that people were visiting with him from
- 50:41S7: the church. And as the as the pastors gathered in
- 50:45S7: his big extended family birthday gathering, one of them decided
- 50:49S7: to begin to worship. So he started worshiping and leading
- 50:53S7: the whole gathering in worship. And when I was sharing
- 50:56S7: the story, he said the atmosphere in the house completely changed.
- 50:59S7: They could just feel God's presence in the room. And
- 51:02S7: one by one, members of his family, his uncle, his aunt,
- 51:05S7: his mother, people in his family began committing their lives
- 51:08S7: to follow Jesus. And what was a birthday celebration ended
- 51:11S7: up being a birthday celebration. Drew, you were just talking
- 51:15S7: about being born again. A true birthday celebration.
- 51:19S2: Wow. Lana, you hear a story like that and it's
- 51:23S2: there's a glimmer of hope. And, you know, I can
- 51:26S2: imagine for people who are living under this, it feels hopeless.
- 51:30S2: You said even non-believers who have don't have a Christian worldview,
- 51:35S2: but who see what's happening, the oppressing of people and go,
- 51:37S2: this cannot continue. What? How do we pray? You know,
- 51:42S2: you hear news updates and it's hard to even know
- 51:45S2: based on what mainstream media is telling us. What do
- 51:48S2: we even pray for? We pray for peace. But is
- 51:51S2: that What is that the objective?
- 51:53S8: Yeah. Yeah.
- 51:54S7: That's an excellent question, Ali. I mean, we do want
- 51:56S7: to pray according to God's purposes. And we can see
- 51:59S7: there's so much biblical precedence for when God used truly
- 52:02S7: tragic circumstances to wake people up to the truth of,
- 52:06S7: you know, who he was. And I believe God is
- 52:08S7: doing that in Iran. If Iran was living in full comfort,
- 52:11S7: we may not be seeing the kind of harvest that
- 52:13S7: we're seeing today. So we pray that God, God's kingdom,
- 52:17S7: comes whatever way that needs to happen, we are for it.
- 52:21S7: Then God, we do pray for peace, but we pray
- 52:23S7: for salvation over peace. We pray for spiritual freedom over
- 52:27S7: earthly freedom. We pray for the Iranian leaders to have
- 52:31S7: an awakening, for God, to visit with them in their dreams,
- 52:34S7: to appear to them in visions, and to give them
- 52:38S7: Damascus Road experiences and have them turn around and repent
- 52:41S7: and make right where they have caused so much pain
- 52:43S7: and suffering. And keep praying for courage for the church
- 52:46S7: as well, that they would continue to be a light
- 52:49S7: in this darkness.
- 52:50S1: Yeah. You know what? You bring up a good point, Lana,
- 52:53S1: because I look at the Republican Guard and what they're
- 52:56S1: doing to people, but there's among the Republican Guard. We
- 53:00S1: got to get our mind around this one. There are genuine,
- 53:03S1: God fearing people that do not like what they're doing,
- 53:08S1: but haven't had a fair shot at the gospel yet.
- 53:10S1: We have to have a posture of compassion to even
- 53:14S1: those that are the enemy of the cross of Christ
- 53:16S1: in ways that are just disgusting and heartbreaking. Are we
- 53:19S1: getting stories of miraculous visions where guys that are so
- 53:24S1: far from God, some of these fighters are just dropping
- 53:27S1: to their knees. We hear that from time to time.
- 53:31S9: Yeah, we have in the past, not recently.
- 53:33S7: I believe God is doing some really deep work in
- 53:37S7: the hearts in the GC. Those testimonies haven't reached me
- 53:40S7: in recent weeks, but we do pray for that. And
- 53:43S7: I believe God is doing that. And God will continue
- 53:45S7: to do that as he as the light gets brighter
- 53:48S7: in Iran, which it is.
- 53:49S1: You know, something that's hitting me here, Ali. The power
- 53:52S1: of worship. I'm going back to that birthday party. Yeah.
- 53:55S1: I mean, here's a guy. He probably knew the potential
- 53:59S1: cost because the potential cost is they run out and
- 54:02S1: they go find a Republican Guard and go, hey, we
- 54:04S1: got a guy in here worshiping God through Jesus Christ, right?
- 54:07S1: I mean, that's the real risk. But God worked through this.
- 54:13S1: You find worship evangelism even in the West. But when
- 54:17S1: you see it in a context like that, who you
- 54:21S1: can't even get. There's no place to put that, is there, Lana?
- 54:24S7: No. Exactly. And that's where the church in Iran is
- 54:28S7: such an example to us in the way they lean
- 54:30S7: into God's presence, God's leadership, God being enough, God sustaining them. Uh,
- 54:37S7: you know, that's, that's how we should all be living.
- 54:39S7: But that doesn't really get tested unless we're in really
- 54:42S7: difficult circumstances. And it is wonderful to be reminded of
- 54:45S7: the power of just putting God's name above all other
- 54:49S7: names in that space and allowing him to do what
- 54:51S7: only he can do.
- 54:52S2: Powerful reminder. Lana Silk, president and Chief executive Officer of
- 54:56S2: Transform Iran. Text transform to 805 557898. Just one word
- 55:03S2: transform 805, five, five, 78, 98.
- 55:08S1: And father, we just bow our heart before the King
- 55:12S1: of kings and say, O God, comfort our brothers and
- 55:14S1: sisters and keep that gospel going. God do miracles, signs
- 55:20S1: and wonders, we pray.
- 55:22S5: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
- 55:26S1: It's Carl and crew. This whole week, the Unstoppable gospel.
- 55:29S1: And yesterday we were talking. The boy very practically. Have
- 55:33S1: you been baptized? But you were not born again in
- 55:37S1: the past. And then you were born again. The amount
- 55:40S1: of responses were awesome. And so we're kind of taking
- 55:46S1: the other end of the continuum here today. And we're
- 55:48S1: looking at this, the gospel changes everything aspect of the
- 55:53S1: unstoppable gospel, and this is what we find. Second Corinthians
- 55:56S1: chapter five, verse 17. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ,
- 56:03S1: he's a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold,
- 56:09S1: the new has come. Wow. That's like a promise, a reality,
- 56:18S1: a living hope. Um. Put a stake in the ground.
- 56:21S1: Get your feet on the rock. Fill your life with joy.
- 56:25S1: Kind of a promise, isn't it, Ali?
- 56:27S2: Well, the idea that we can be a new creation.
- 56:31S2: I mean, think about that just as a promise. Yeah.
- 56:34S2: The first part of that, then anyone, if anyone is
- 56:37S2: in Christ. So it's everybody's eligible. It's not like you
- 56:40S2: have to clear certain hurdles when you are in Christ.
- 56:43S2: You are a new creation. This is your new identity
- 56:47S2: that the old has passed away. Behold, the new has
- 56:49S2: come before you've done a single thing that's true of
- 56:53S2: you spiritually.
- 56:54S1: Boom. So here's a quick question. What passed away? What
- 56:59S1: died and what became new? What came alive? Just we're
- 57:03S1: just asking for you to call in and just answer
- 57:05S1: that question. What passed away in what became new? Would
- 57:11S1: you give us a call right now? Let's light em up. Boom. Crew,
- 57:14S1: this is your show. 805. 5578, 98. What? Passed away
- 57:20S1: in what became new. 805. Five. 578. 98.
- 57:26S5: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
- 57:30S1: It's, uh, Carl and crew. Yep. Asking you what passed
- 57:33S1: away and what became new comes right out of second
- 57:36S1: Corinthians 517. What a cool promise. Assurance in Ali. Spiked it. Man,
- 57:42S1: we're new create.
- 57:45S2: Yes. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a
- 57:47S2: new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new
- 57:51S2: has come.
- 57:52S1: Okay, let's get your stories. Thanks for holding on, guys. Crystal.
- 57:55S1: First time caller. Murfreesboro, Tennessee. What do you say, sister?
- 58:00S10: Yeah. So what died in me was everything that I
- 58:04S10: learned from my family. The sinful nature and what came
- 58:07S10: alive in me was all the promises from the Word
- 58:10S10: of God.
- 58:12S1: That's awesome.
- 58:13S2: Spot on.
- 58:15S1: That's like.
- 58:16S2: Crystal.
- 58:16S1: Crystal. That's awesome. So everything that my family taught me
- 58:20S1: began to die. And everything the Word of God taught
- 58:23S1: me began to live.
- 58:24S3: Amen.
- 58:25S1: Okay, that's that's awesome.
- 58:27S2: That's a whole sermon in 60s Crystal. First time, first
- 58:31S2: time caller. That was pretty amazing.
- 58:33S1: How did you do that so quickly? Crystal? How'd you
- 58:36S1: button that up?
- 58:38S10: Oh, it wasn't quickly. It's been a long time coming, but.
- 58:42S1: See, that's even better.
- 58:43S3: Yep, that's a good answer.
- 58:44S1: Long time. When I.
- 58:45S2: Shared concisely.
- 58:46S1: Yeah, it was shared concisely, but it's been a long. Yeah.
- 58:49S1: That's beautiful. Okay. Who do we have here? Ali.
- 58:52S2: We have Barbara. First time caller from Wauchula, Florida. I
- 58:56S2: hope I got that right, Barbara, tell us first time
- 58:58S2: caller what passed away and what became new when you
- 59:01S2: were new in Christ passed away.
- 59:05S11: And love came into my heart, the love of God. And, uh,
- 59:10S11: you know, when you, you, you look back at yourself
- 59:13S11: and you see the sin that you used to do,
- 59:17S11: and then you think, oh my gosh, how I've changed
- 59:22S11: because you just, you want to help everybody and tell
- 59:25S11: everybody about the love of Christ.
- 59:28S1: Yeah. And what you just nailed there, Barbara, thank you
- 59:31S1: so much, sister, is you go, oh my goodness. And
- 59:34S1: here's why. Because you know, good and well I didn't
- 59:38S1: do that. That's why you say, oh my goodness. You're
- 59:42S1: astonished at what God has done, which is so cool.
- 59:49S1: This is just spot on. I, I do have to
- 59:53S1: say something here. We get a lot of people who have,
- 59:59S1: they get rattled with regard to assurance of salvation. And
- 1:00:04S1: yesterday we were talking about this passage in Romans. It's 813.
- 1:00:09S1: Is that right? Yeah. 816, 816. I'm getting all messed
- 1:00:13S1: up here. Um. 816 turn there quickly so that I'm
- 1:00:18S1: not just paraphrasing it, but basically it's the Spirit of
- 1:00:20S1: God agrees or confirms with our spirit that we are
- 1:00:26S1: children of God. You got the exact wording.
- 1:00:28S2: You've got it. The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit
- 1:00:31S2: that we are God's children. That's the NIV version.
- 1:00:35S1: Yeah. So here's one of the great evidences that, you know,
- 1:00:38S1: and I'm going to I'm going to shoot it to you.
- 1:00:40S1: Straight boom crew. I'm gonna pour out my heart. There
- 1:00:44S1: is the the reality of the supernatural power of the
- 1:00:49S1: Holy Spirit is that he regenerates us. He adopts us.
- 1:00:56S1: Ephesians one. He convicts us, he comforts us, and he
- 1:01:02S1: speaks into our spirit. So the Holy Spirit speaks into
- 1:01:07S1: our spirit. Capital S little s saying, you're my kid, Jonathan.
- 1:01:11S1: You were just hearing this earlier today, man. You had
- 1:01:14S1: that happen a couple of weeks ago, didn't you?
- 1:01:15S3: I used that verse. I, I was getting hit by
- 1:01:18S3: Satan and saying, nah, you know, you had an illusion
- 1:01:21S3: way back when do you think you still got that?
- 1:01:23S3: Now your life ain't perfect. And and I was brutal.
- 1:01:27S3: Oh yeah. He's horrible. I don't like that guy. Uh,
- 1:01:30S3: and and so I talked with God instead of sitting
- 1:01:33S3: in it and freaking out. And I said, God, because
- 1:01:35S3: I just read this verse. I said, God, you say
- 1:01:37S3: that your spirit testifies with mine that I am a
- 1:01:39S3: child of God. And I said, so I want to
- 1:01:41S3: hear your voice. And I said, tell me one way
- 1:01:44S3: or the other. And his spirit testified with my spirit.
- 1:01:47S3: And I felt it. Not an audible voice, but it
- 1:01:50S3: might as well have been him saying, hey, you're my kid,
- 1:01:53S3: I got you.
- 1:01:54S1: Okay, that's an evidence. And then you look in second
- 1:01:58S1: Corinthians 517 and we could go all over the scripture.
- 1:02:01S1: Therefore you're a new creation. Here's the evidence. Old has
- 1:02:04S1: passed away. Behold, new has come. See, in Churchianity and
- 1:02:09S1: this deluded gospel message that we have across the West,
- 1:02:13S1: and it is diluted, friend, you can slip a hand
- 1:02:17S1: in the air when no one's looking. You can walk
- 1:02:19S1: down an aisle and never follow Christ. And what changes
- 1:02:24S1: is okay, I'm a go to more small groups. I,
- 1:02:31S1: you know, whatever it is at the surface level, here's
- 1:02:34S1: what you need to know. There is assurance of knowing
- 1:02:37S1: that you know that you are God's kid. I was
- 1:02:42S1: sitting on a dock with Kay Arthur and her husband. Jack,
- 1:02:45S1: and me and my bride were talking with them, and
- 1:02:47S1: we were having this. Kay Arthur was one of what
- 1:02:50S1: did she have precepts. Right. Yeah. Precept ministries. And she
- 1:02:53S1: would go through the Word of God. And she was
- 1:02:56S1: a phenomenal teacher. And we're sitting there talking with them
- 1:02:58S1: on this dock two hours north of Atlanta, Lake Burton.
- 1:03:02S1: And she's saying, you know, we're talking about evidence of
- 1:03:07S1: being born again. She said there is undeniable evidence everywhere.
- 1:03:11S1: And she began to just go through the scriptures, as
- 1:03:14S1: only Kay Arthur could, that when you are created new
- 1:03:19S1: in Christ Jesus, there is going to be a hunger,
- 1:03:22S1: not that it won't fade or that you're in a
- 1:03:25S1: spiritual battle. All those things are real. We're not talking perfection.
- 1:03:28S1: We're talking regeneration. When a soul is regenerated, you. Absolutely. You.
- 1:03:36S1: absolutely will have new allegiances, new appetites, new hungers. Those
- 1:03:45S1: things are going to be real. There's going to be
- 1:03:48S1: old things that die. There's going to be new things
- 1:03:52S1: that come. My sheep hear my voice and they follow me.
- 1:03:57S1: The Spirit of God is confirming in my spirit that
- 1:04:01S1: I'm a child of God and friend. Here's the reality.
- 1:04:04S1: Cultural Christianity is such an epidemic. 2000 years ago, Jesus said,
- 1:04:11S1: many are going to say, Lord, Lord, and he's going
- 1:04:13S1: to say, I never knew you. And they're going to say,
- 1:04:15S1: I was religiously busy and did mighty works. I cast
- 1:04:18S1: out demons, I proclaimed Jesus. He's going to say, I
- 1:04:22S1: never knew you. So here's the deal. I want you
- 1:04:27S1: to know that you know that you're in Jesus Christ.
- 1:04:31S1: And there's some of you saying those are things that
- 1:04:36S1: are not part of me that you've just cited there,
- 1:04:40S1: but they can be. And here's how the good news
- 1:04:43S1: is the good news of repentance. Not walking down an aisle.
- 1:04:47S1: It's following Jesus, not lifting a hand in the air
- 1:04:50S1: when no one's looking. It's about lifting hands in the air, saying,
- 1:04:53S1: all that I've got is yours. Everything I am is you. Now,
- 1:05:00S1: is that perfected? No. I still glom on to stuff
- 1:05:03S1: as a brand new follower of Jesus. But when push
- 1:05:05S1: comes to shove and you ask me, do I want
- 1:05:07S1: to give Jesus everything that's in my life? Absolutely full stop.
- 1:05:11S1: He owns it all. Absolutely. And if you've not yet
- 1:05:17S1: known that, Jesus, you can right now. And this is
- 1:05:21S1: all I'm clear about in Scripture, the gospel is the
- 1:05:25S1: gospel of repentance. It's a metanoia moment. It's changing your mind,
- 1:05:30S1: your heart, your, the, and the direction of your feet.
- 1:05:35S1: You're no longer walk in a broad path. You're walking
- 1:05:37S1: a narrow path that leads to life. And you know
- 1:05:41S1: how it begins. By you agreeing with God. I'm the problem.
- 1:05:50S1: Save me from me. Jesus, thank you for dying on
- 1:05:54S1: the cross for my sins. This is not just a
- 1:05:58S1: belief that demons are monotheistic guys. This is a heart
- 1:06:05S1: rending emptying of self saying, you've got all of me.
- 1:06:10S1: Save me from me. You aren't saved into a void.
- 1:06:15S1: You're saved into the arms of God. And God wants
- 1:06:20S1: to do that in you. And if the cry of
- 1:06:22S1: your soul this morning is, God, save me for me.
- 1:06:27S1: And you've never you've never had this heart rending moment
- 1:06:30S1: before in your life. This is something brand new. That's
- 1:06:33S1: because God's doing a new thing today. And turn around. Repent.
- 1:06:44S1: God's changing your mind, your heart, your direction, everything about you.
- 1:06:48S1: And if this is you right now, I mean it.
- 1:06:50S1: This is you right now. Today is your day of salvation.
- 1:06:53S1: If this is the cry of your soul, you're saying,
- 1:06:55S1: I'm done. I'm the problem. Jesus saved me. Text the
- 1:06:59S1: word new. We're going to help you. And the Spirit
- 1:07:02S1: of God is on the move, working in you right now.
- 1:07:05S1: We're going to help you in your first steps with Jesus.
- 1:07:07S1: Just text the word new right now, wherever you are,
- 1:07:10S1: to 805, five, five, 78, 98. Just one word, new.
- 1:07:16S1: Get to the side of the road. Get somewhere safe.
- 1:07:18S1: Text new to 805 557898. And he who begins this
- 1:07:27S1: work in you, he's going to carry it on to
- 1:07:29S1: completion until the day of Christ Jesus.