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The Tale of Half-Hangit Maggie | Maggie Dickson · Beheaded

0:04
SPEAKER_00: Hello and welcome to Beheaded.
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SPEAKER_00: This is season two, episode ten.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm Megan Moore, and I'm Elizabeth Black.
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SPEAKER_00: We've got a fishy episode.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh.
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SPEAKER_00: Yum.
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SPEAKER_00: No?
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SPEAKER_00: No, that's good.
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SPEAKER_00: That's a good way to kick it off.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh yes, very fishy.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, even though our podcast is called Beheaded.
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SPEAKER_00: Perhaps this person maybe escapes death.
0:27
SPEAKER_00: Is that too early to say that?
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's too early to talk about it.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, too soon, too soon.
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SPEAKER_00: Similar to like our Betty episode where this is an executed related uh story.
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SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_00: This is also execution related, but maybe she lives.
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SPEAKER_00: Mmm, that's a good little clip finger.
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SPEAKER_00: I was talking more about how I'm so full of muscles right now.
0:51
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you're fishy.
0:52
SPEAKER_00: I am saying I'm fishy.
0:54
SPEAKER_00: You smell fishy.
0:55
SPEAKER_00: Thanks.
0:56
SPEAKER_00: And like garlic and onions.
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SPEAKER_00: You kind of stink like garlic too, though.
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SPEAKER_00: I know, and we're both breathing heavily.
1:00
SPEAKER_00: We're like really really close.
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SPEAKER_00: Really close to each other.
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SPEAKER_00: I personally love the smell of garlic.
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SPEAKER_00: I have never made muscles like that before.
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SPEAKER_00: It was fun.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: So uh not to not to reveal too much about our execution-e today.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, but they live in a fisherman's wharf town.
1:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh so we thought it was fitting.
1:19
SPEAKER_00: We had some like mussels with like French baguette, and we made this like extra delicious, garlicky, creamy white wine.
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SPEAKER_00: Sauce.
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SPEAKER_00: Sauce.
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SPEAKER_00: With like Italian parsley drizzled on the top.
1:32
SPEAKER_00: We'll post you a beautiful picture.
1:34
SPEAKER_00: I'm jump- I'm just jumping straight into the food and the wine because it was really good.
1:38
SPEAKER_00: So you guys know that we've been kind of bad about our food and wine in the last few episodes, but today we were like, no, we're taking a stand, we're doing it right, we're doing it well.
1:46
SPEAKER_00: And so Megan, it was Megan's idea to do the muscles, and then everything else just followed.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, we'll post a picture for you.
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SPEAKER_00: And also in this picture, we should probably mention before they see it that you'll notice a little Easter egg in the background.
1:58
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
2:01
SPEAKER_00: So a lot of you know that I moved into a new home.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: And I convinced my husband to be I don't know how, but to be okay with this giant painting.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a replica of a painting, it's not the real one.
2:15
SPEAKER_00: You should just say it's the real one.
2:16
SPEAKER_00: I should just say it's the real one.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty sure people would question it.
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SPEAKER_00: Probably, but go with it.
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SPEAKER_00: There is an artist who I really have grown to like, and his name is Marcus Stone, and he painted this in 1870, and it's called Henry the Eighth and Anne Boleyn Observed by Queen Catherine.
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SPEAKER_00: It's literally that.
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SPEAKER_00: Everything in that in that statement of what it's called is what it is.
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SPEAKER_00: It's it's exactly what it what you get when you look at it.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like this beautiful room, and it's not just them two, it's like It's god-awful tacky.
2:48
SPEAKER_00: It's probably and what we were trying to figure out.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll actually give you an update.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not tacky, actually.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not beautiful.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
2:54
SPEAKER_00: It's beautiful art.
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SPEAKER_00: I signed off on it as your designer, as your decorator.
2:57
SPEAKER_00: I signed off.
2:58
SPEAKER_00: Um, Megan texted to me and she's like, How dumb is this?
3:00
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, It's genius.
3:02
SPEAKER_00: It's genius.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: It's and it's like canvas and it's like let me describe what's in the scene.
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SPEAKER_00: But um, so it is it is King Henry VIII, is obviously like the focal point.
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SPEAKER_00: And Anne Boleyn, who's like, he's like standing in his you know, strong, powerful pose, and she's sitting and she has like a lute in her hand, and she's like looking very flirtatiously up at King Henry VIII, and they were just surrounded by members of the court.
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SPEAKER_00: So we think, we don't know, we're gonna look it up, but we think there's like Thomas Boleyn and maybe Lady Rogford with them.
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SPEAKER_00: George Boleyn.
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SPEAKER_00: Probably George Boleyn, the uncle.
3:33
SPEAKER_00: Charles Brandon's probably in there.
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SPEAKER_00: Wolseley's in the background looking like super pompous.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: And the reason why it's called Observed by Catherine is because she's in the very background in a hallway, and she's kind of peeking her head in, like, as she's walking by.
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SPEAKER_00: It's clear she's in.
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SPEAKER_00: I love it.
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SPEAKER_00: She's not stalking them, she just happened to walk by and come up across the scene where everyone's married.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like Henry is hanging out with his new girl Anne Boleyn, and the whole court is like just like kind of gossiping and drinking wine and chattering and also how big now how big is this place?
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SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, it's like 60 inches wide.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, it takes up the whole world.
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SPEAKER_00: It's it's large, probably bigger than your TV.
4:07
SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's so perfect.
4:08
SPEAKER_00: And that's why I think it's a little tacky.
4:10
SPEAKER_00: No, I think it's beautiful.
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SPEAKER_00: It ties in the room very well.
4:14
SPEAKER_00: You know, we got the well, uh, Megan got this new rug.
4:17
SPEAKER_00: It looks wonderful.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've been like home design crazy lately.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, it doesn't help that I like we both work for a company that focuses on interior design and furnishing, so it's like, God, it's like I'm around it all day.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And I swear, I say it's tacky.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not, it's not like obnoxious.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not obnoxious.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a lot of things.
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SPEAKER_00: And I did say, I did say when she's not subtle's a bad word.
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SPEAKER_00: That's subtle.
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SPEAKER_00: Subtle's the wrong word.
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SPEAKER_00: But I did say, I was like, okay, now that you have you got it out of your system and you have this King Henry VIII painting above your table in your dining room, I was like, now you can't do anything else King Henry VIII related.
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SPEAKER_00: I do have I have a knight in the room.
4:55
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you do?
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SPEAKER_00: The black knight.
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SPEAKER_00: I have a black knight.
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SPEAKER_00: Probably what?
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SPEAKER_00: It's like 18 inches.
5:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like almost two foot tall.
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SPEAKER_00: He he has a dual purpose.
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SPEAKER_00: He's um like a a fireplace poker set.
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SPEAKER_00: Poker set.
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SPEAKER_00: Is that what you call those?
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SPEAKER_00: Like fireplaces.
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SPEAKER_00: So it has like the duster and the dust pen.
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SPEAKER_00: Poker.
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SPEAKER_00: Poker, little tongs to get the firewood.
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SPEAKER_00: That one has a real fireplace.
5:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that one's practical.
5:18
SPEAKER_00: We have to have the night.
5:19
SPEAKER_00: It was actually a gift to Jake that you got.
5:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I thanked him for building our has we spoke last week, how um he's been just building it.
5:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I got him that.
5:28
SPEAKER_00: But no, we've been busy.
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SPEAKER_00: I will post that picture and you can see.
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SPEAKER_00: And if you guys vote, you tell me if it's tacky or not.
5:34
SPEAKER_00: It's not gonna make a difference.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm still gonna keep it up regardless.
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SPEAKER_00: But I want to know if it's tacky.
5:38
SPEAKER_00: Everyone gives you bad feedback, you're like, I don't care.
5:40
SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
5:40
SPEAKER_00: I have so far, you're the only one who's approved besides Jake.
5:45
SPEAKER_00: I had to sell him a little bit.
5:46
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I was gonna say, I was like, has anyone seen it yet?
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SPEAKER_00: But no, no one no guests have seen it.
5:50
SPEAKER_00: No, I haven't really had a lot of people over besides you.
5:53
SPEAKER_00: Alright, well, I approve it.
5:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, so also big news we, you and I, are not staying in Arizona for much not.
6:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, that sounds like we're moving.
6:06
SPEAKER_00: We're not moving, but we finally planned a trip.
6:09
SPEAKER_00: We told you guys last time we were thinking about different trips and where we'd go, and we officially literally the day I think of the last episode, we just got like fed up and we're like, we're just booking it.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
6:19
SPEAKER_00: You heard it in our voices.
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SPEAKER_00: We were like ready, a little down, and then I was like, uh, really up, and then really down again.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: There's a condition.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it's diagnosed as something.
6:29
SPEAKER_00: Uh, where are we going, Megan?
6:31
SPEAKER_00: We're going to Disney World.
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SPEAKER_00: We're going to Disney World.
6:34
SPEAKER_00: We're just gonna do it.
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SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
6:36
SPEAKER_00: We literally, after we finished recording, we were just looking up like tickets and prices, and then it was one of those things I went, oh well, I bought it.
6:45
SPEAKER_00: So just just you just gotta do it sometimes.
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SPEAKER_00: And again, we said on the last episode, we're not gonna be morons, like we're gonna be safe, and Disney World has a lot of precautions.
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SPEAKER_00: They already have a lot of protocols in place, so it's like I know people are anxious to get back to you know life pre-pandemic, and life's never gonna be quite normal again.
7:02
SPEAKER_00: But I think we're just ready to be out in the world and like they're only like 40% capacity.
7:08
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_00: Everyone's six feet apart.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, but um I mean vaccines are out there, and I feel like we are the last in line.
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SPEAKER_00: I know, I know we are, I know we are, but we're going to Disney World in Florida, and I do feel like um, hold on, I had a train of thought, and then I lost my warmer and it doesn't exist there.
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SPEAKER_00: I know I was gonna say something, and then I totally forgot what I was gonna say.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, Florida and Disney World, I forget.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, while you're thinking about that, we're in the process of figuring out our outfits, and like we probably are gonna Disney bound on a day or two.
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SPEAKER_00: So if you guys have any ideas for us to Disney bound, let us know.
7:43
SPEAKER_00: Do they know what Disney bounding is?
7:44
SPEAKER_00: Everyone should know what Disneyland is.
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SPEAKER_00: We've talked about it before, I think.
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SPEAKER_00: Basically, you dress up, you don't go full costume because we're not freaking out.
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SPEAKER_00: No one goes full costume.
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SPEAKER_00: We're not that weird.
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SPEAKER_00: No, but we are if I could.
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SPEAKER_00: Um but Disneyland doesn't or Disney World, both of them, don't allow you to like dress up as characters to go to the park.
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SPEAKER_00: So people found a way around that.
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SPEAKER_00: As adults, to be clear.
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SPEAKER_00: Children can.
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SPEAKER_00: Stupid rule.
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SPEAKER_00: Dumb roll.
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SPEAKER_00: Who made that?
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SPEAKER_00: Um, so but you can go to the park as like a Disney-inspired character.
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SPEAKER_00: So, for example, if I wanted to look like, say, Snow White at a Disney park, like I wouldn't wear a snow white gown, but what I would do is I'd wear like a little like navy skirt and a yellow top and maybe a red bow in my hair.
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SPEAKER_00: Like apple earrings.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, apple earrings.
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SPEAKER_00: It's all about the accessories too, like little things.
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SPEAKER_00: And Disney bounders are fun because they can get really specific on characters.
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SPEAKER_00: So we're at the obscure.
8:33
SPEAKER_00: Who are we going?
8:34
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, we wanted to go as um we're gonna go to Animal Kingdom.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow, we have it all planned.
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SPEAKER_00: We're gonna be uh Don't tell them this.
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SPEAKER_00: Iago.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, guess which one of us is gonna be Iago?
8:45
SPEAKER_00: Because we're African themed, so it's like, even though I know they're not in Africa, but like it's animals.
8:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not Africa.
8:51
SPEAKER_00: So Raja the tiger from Aladdin would be me, would be Elizabeth, and then I'm gonna be the stupid, annoying parrot Iago.
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SPEAKER_00: Parrot Iago.
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SPEAKER_00: So perfect for me.
9:03
SPEAKER_00: Uh we were talking about it.
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SPEAKER_00: And she's like, I've always wanted to been a you know, be a bird.
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SPEAKER_00: And I was like, just be Iago.
9:09
SPEAKER_00: And she's like, well, will you be Jafar?
9:10
SPEAKER_00: I was like, no, I'm just gonna be Raja.
9:12
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna be like that ass type.
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SPEAKER_00: That's cute for Animal Kingdom.
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SPEAKER_00: It's cute, I think.
9:15
SPEAKER_00: Um so stay tuned.
9:16
SPEAKER_00: We don't know for sure if we're gonna do that.
9:18
SPEAKER_00: We have to see how much time and money and all that we're gonna do.
9:21
SPEAKER_00: Wait, Lent's not still going on by then, right?
9:24
SPEAKER_00: Oh, thank God.
9:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you said that.
9:26
SPEAKER_00: I so I am again very Catholic.
9:28
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if I've mentioned this before.
9:29
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you are.
9:30
SPEAKER_03: I'm very Catholic.
9:31
SPEAKER_00: Um, and my mother, even though I haven't lived in Colorado in quite some years, will make sure that I observe Lent to a tea.
9:40
SPEAKER_00: So she'll text me on Fridays and be like, remember, no meat today, like only fish.
9:44
SPEAKER_00: Did we eat meat on Friday?
9:45
SPEAKER_00: Last Friday?
9:46
SPEAKER_00: I accidentally ate a little chicken and I didn't mean to, and I'm so sorry.
9:49
SPEAKER_00: I'm so sorry.
9:50
SPEAKER_00: I say we like I'm a part of this.
9:52
SPEAKER_00: I know.
9:52
SPEAKER_00: I was like, what did you do?
9:53
SPEAKER_00: What do you mean we?
9:54
SPEAKER_00: For moral support.
9:56
SPEAKER_00: So anyway, so if you don't know what Lent is, I don't know if it's just a Catholic thing or I think it is.
10:01
SPEAKER_00: Maybe Episcopalian stuff.
10:02
SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say, maybe Episcopalian Lutherans, do they do Catholic?
10:04
SPEAKER_00: Or I mean Catholic.
10:05
SPEAKER_00: Do they do Catholic?
10:06
SPEAKER_00: Do they do Catholic?
10:07
SPEAKER_00: Do I do Catholic?
10:08
SPEAKER_00: Do you do Catholic sometimes?
10:09
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
10:10
SPEAKER_00: Tell me, tell me if you do Catholic.
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SPEAKER_00: Lent, it's a 40 days.
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SPEAKER_00: It starts um on Mardi Gras, Fat Tuesday, the day before Ash Wednesday.
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SPEAKER_00: Um so that's the whole point of Mardi Gras, if you didn't know that.
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SPEAKER_00: It's that they have one last day of like being frivolous and eating whatever they want and drinking, and then Ash Wednesday, the next day, is when you're supposed to like crack down and you're like, okay, I'm fasting today.
10:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm usually we say giving up something, meaning you're restricting yourself of something.
10:37
SPEAKER_00: Some Catholics do something different where you're like, instead of giving something up, I want to give something back to the community.
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SPEAKER_00: Whatever it is to make you feel better, to feel like you're cleansing yourself and you're struggling a bit, like it's about the sacrifice, I guess, that you take.
10:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, so it ends on Easter.
10:51
SPEAKER_00: But when I whenever I have not a good idea, I just give up sweets because that's easy.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: So I've done some years that are actually tough.
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SPEAKER_00: Like one year I gave up shopping for myself, which I'm not like a crazy shopper, but when you think about it, like it's really hard to not buy yourself something.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean, I let my obviously I bought myself groceries, you know, but I mean I wasn't allowed to, like, if I had to buy something for work, like, oh, I need new, I don't know.
11:14
SPEAKER_00: Shoes.
11:15
SPEAKER_00: Shoes.
11:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I guess shoes for work or something.
11:17
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
11:18
SPEAKER_00: But you know, something practical that you don't see as like a uh frivolous spend, I couldn't do that.
11:24
SPEAKER_00: Like that was a hard year.
11:25
SPEAKER_00: That's hard.
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SPEAKER_00: So I've I've given up dairy, I've given up gluten, I gave up snacking one year.
11:30
SPEAKER_00: That was hard.
11:30
SPEAKER_00: God, I don't know how you live this life, but um luckily for us.
11:34
SPEAKER_00: Catholic guilt, man.
11:36
SPEAKER_00: I um I make up enough sitting for the both of us, so we don't have to worry about that.
11:41
SPEAKER_00: But this year, because I couldn't think of anything super great and it's been COVID, and I feel like I've already suffered a whole year as everyone has on this planet, I feel like I I gave up sweets and that was easy for me.
11:51
SPEAKER_00: So anyway, but yes.
11:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you say easy, and every night you talk about eating chocolate and ice cream.
11:55
SPEAKER_00: No, that's what I told Megan.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm really not a person that like has a sweet tooth or craves chocolate or ice cream or whatever, but whenever I give it up, oh man, it's all you think about.
12:03
SPEAKER_00: But that's actually a psychological thing, you know?
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SPEAKER_00: It is the more you deprive yourself, the more your mind fixed Yeah, you're fixated on the thing you can't have.
12:11
SPEAKER_00: They've done experiments.
12:11
SPEAKER_00: I believe that's I believe it.
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SPEAKER_00: So I always believe in everything in moderation.
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SPEAKER_00: Don't ever like fully deprive yourself because that's literally all you'll think about to the point where you can't function or focus on other things.
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SPEAKER_00: So anyway, that's my mindset right now.
12:23
SPEAKER_00: But by Disney World, I can have sweets.
12:26
SPEAKER_00: Good.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank goodness.
12:28
SPEAKER_00: Don't worry.
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SPEAKER_00: I can't wait to get all those Disney snacks.
12:31
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Megan's already started a spreadsheet.
12:33
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I have spreadsheets on spreadsheets.
12:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, of like food and drink and restaurants.
12:38
SPEAKER_00: Rides.
12:38
SPEAKER_00: I've rated all the rides from like my um fear factor level because I'm kind of a wimp.
12:43
SPEAKER_00: We've told you, we told you this before, but Megan's a bit of a wimp, so she's I call it my wimp level.
12:48
SPEAKER_00: It's a one through four scale.
12:49
SPEAKER_00: Actually, no, one through ten.
12:50
SPEAKER_00: I take that back because I have some things that are ranked seven.
12:53
SPEAKER_00: Like for me, Tower of Terror is ranked number ten.
12:56
SPEAKER_00: Like, I won't go on it.
12:57
SPEAKER_00: That's not the scariest thing ever.
12:59
SPEAKER_00: I won't go on it.
13:00
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
13:01
SPEAKER_00: That's it.
13:02
SPEAKER_00: Putting my foot down.
13:03
SPEAKER_00: So there's a one meaning you will go on it and one's like it's a small world.
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SPEAKER_00: Ten is no, I'm not doing it.
13:09
SPEAKER_00: I'll go on anything up to a seven.
13:11
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
13:12
SPEAKER_00: What's a seven in your book?
13:14
SPEAKER_00: Like Space Mountain.
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SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
13:16
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
13:17
SPEAKER_00: Why?
13:18
SPEAKER_00: What?
13:18
SPEAKER_00: What's Splash Mountain?
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's like a nine.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: I don't like Splash Mountain.
13:22
SPEAKER_00: But you might be open to it because it's not a ten, right?
13:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I've done Splash Mountain and it's just that one drop.
13:28
SPEAKER_00: But I hate I hate it.
13:30
SPEAKER_00: Well, Elizabeth Black is a daredevil, crazy personal adrenaline junkie who likes to go on a lot of these things.
13:37
SPEAKER_00: So you might have to watch the snacks for like a hot minute while I go do single rounds.
13:42
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'll do.
13:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm really good at that.
13:44
SPEAKER_00: Like, I never want anybody else to not have a good time when they go to the amusement parks.
13:48
SPEAKER_00: I am such a pro at getting a snack and sitting on the curve and just watching people.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: I love watching people and judging them.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: Good.
13:57
SPEAKER_00: And making up lives and stories about all of them.
14:00
SPEAKER_00: We should write it all down.
14:01
SPEAKER_00: You can tell us a bit about it.
14:03
SPEAKER_00: Um last week, uh we this is a really terrible transition.
14:08
SPEAKER_00: There's no way to transition transition into this.
14:10
SPEAKER_00: Oh we had a little oopsies last week.
14:13
SPEAKER_00: Oh boy.
14:14
SPEAKER_00: I forgot.
14:15
SPEAKER_00: I had to mention it.
14:15
SPEAKER_00: I know you said don't mention it, but I feel like I have to.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: There was probably between 50 and 100 of you that downloaded our original version that shouldn't have been released.
14:24
SPEAKER_00: You heard the real and raw version of us.
14:27
SPEAKER_00: It was totally my fault.
14:30
SPEAKER_00: I replaced the wrong file.
14:31
SPEAKER_00: But you know what?
14:32
SPEAKER_00: We're all human.
14:33
SPEAKER_00: No apologies.
14:34
SPEAKER_00: You got lucky because you and actually I thought that was there wasn't a lot edited out, but there was like no music, and there was a few things like I would be rambling, like, man, let's get rid of that.
14:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's a few parts of Begin's like, I don't I don't know what I'm saying.
14:45
SPEAKER_00: Cut that, just cut.
14:46
SPEAKER_00: Or like we were trying to like do a calculation at one point, and you're like, cut this, like we gotta start over.
14:51
SPEAKER_00: So you heard us raw and real, but you know what?
14:53
SPEAKER_00: You were very lucky and it was a it's lost audio now, you're never gonna go back and listen to it.
14:58
SPEAKER_00: It got quickly replaced.
14:59
SPEAKER_00: So if you listened to it and you were extremely confused, that is what happened.
15:03
SPEAKER_00: No luck.
15:04
SPEAKER_00: Are they just whispering and rambling and telling them to do small things in the background?
15:08
SPEAKER_00: That's why.
15:09
SPEAKER_00: Oh, and you when you noticed it too.
15:11
SPEAKER_00: Because we didn't.
15:12
SPEAKER_00: Well, usually I don't listen to the episode for a week or two.
15:15
SPEAKER_00: Well, no, I I listen because you edit, so you that's when you listen.
15:18
SPEAKER_00: But I usually listen to it on a run.
15:21
SPEAKER_00: I like to usually when I run, listen to it.
15:24
SPEAKER_00: But weirdly, for this episode, I caught it like the next day I was listening.
15:27
SPEAKER_00: I was like, uh yeah, Megan.
15:29
SPEAKER_00: Don't think.
15:30
SPEAKER_00: And you weren't even sure at first.
15:32
SPEAKER_00: I was like, yeah, no, you're right.
15:33
SPEAKER_00: I I F that one.
15:34
SPEAKER_00: I hope we didn't give away anyone identities because we talked about friends on that episode.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: Anyway.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes we just ramble.
15:40
SPEAKER_00: Let's not dwell on all of that person.
15:41
SPEAKER_00: No, we don't, but you know who we should dwell on?
15:44
SPEAKER_00: The Lady of the Day.
15:45
SPEAKER_00: From Musselburgh.
15:47
SPEAKER_00: From Musselburgh.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: Borough.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: Borough.
15:49
SPEAKER_00: So it's Beltberg, but they say borough.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: Like Edinburgh.
15:54
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
15:55
SPEAKER_00: So Lady of the Day.
15:56
SPEAKER_00: Oh, my foot's asleep.
15:57
SPEAKER_00: Oh, big sad.
15:58
SPEAKER_00: Oh, want me to massage it for you?
16:00
SPEAKER_00: Oh, no, thanks.
16:01
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
16:01
SPEAKER_00: Good transition.
16:03
SPEAKER_00: Um, so our lady of the day, execution executione of the day, is half-hangit Maggie.
16:11
SPEAKER_00: Half hang it Maggie.
16:12
SPEAKER_00: If you've never heard of her, her name is Margaret Dixon, aka Maggie, aka Half Hang It Maggie.
16:18
SPEAKER_00: Um half hanged half hanging.
16:20
SPEAKER_00: Depending on where you're from in the in the world, but we'll say half-hang it.
16:23
SPEAKER_00: We'll be true to the I like it.
16:24
SPEAKER_00: Half hang it is the like it's H A N G I T.
16:28
SPEAKER_01: Hang it.
16:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, so she is a lady from Edinburgh, Scotland.
16:33
SPEAKER_00: And as we teased at the beginning, yes, this is an execution story, but there's more to the tale than just like trial sentence execution.
16:42
SPEAKER_00: So uh we'll go ahead and start with her early life as we always do, and then uh tell you why this isn't quite an execution story.
16:50
SPEAKER_00: So, um, in terms of timeline, we think based on all the sources that we had, that she was born in around 1702 um in Scotland.
16:59
SPEAKER_00: We think in Musselboro is where she's actually.
17:03
SPEAKER_00: Get it?
17:04
SPEAKER_00: Did that on purpose.
17:05
SPEAKER_00: How clever.
17:06
SPEAKER_00: We're so smart.
17:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, so Musselboro, uh, Scotland, uh, in 1702.
17:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, and again, like anyone who's not famous or not royalty, we don't know a whole lot about their early life, but we do know that around the age of 20, um, she was separated from her husband.
17:25
SPEAKER_00: And we think that he was a local fisherman, and he left for either one of two reasons.
17:30
SPEAKER_00: So, one, he either left for work, you know, fisherman work in another town, um, or he left to join the naval service.
17:38
SPEAKER_00: So, either way, he just kind of up and left, you know, abandoned might be a strong word, but he did leave her to like kind of make do for herself.
17:47
SPEAKER_00: Um, so she at this point needed employment.
17:50
SPEAKER_00: She did have, we think, two children.
17:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
17:52
SPEAKER_00: Which is odd.
17:52
SPEAKER_00: She's young, very young, like again, about 20.
17:56
SPEAKER_00: Which is odd that she had two children because these children are literally never mentioned again, ever, in any of the stories that we have.
18:02
SPEAKER_00: Well, she's not really known as Mother of the Year.
18:05
SPEAKER_00: So we'll get into that.
18:07
SPEAKER_00: So uh she she needs employment, may or may not have these two kids, no husband.
18:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, and so what does she do?
18:14
SPEAKER_00: You go to work.
18:15
SPEAKER_00: So one of the only jobs available in the area was to essentially be a housekeeper at the inn.
18:21
SPEAKER_00: Um so she starts working at the local inn, and lo and behold, she kind of has eyes for the innkeeper's son.
18:30
SPEAKER_00: So we won't say fall in love, but fall in lust, maybe, is a more appropriate term.
18:34
SPEAKER_00: Or maybe fall in love.
18:35
SPEAKER_00: We don't know.
18:36
SPEAKER_00: We don't know.
18:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, we don't know for sure his name, but we've heard sources say that his name was William Bell.
18:42
SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh, I do no, I don't believe that source.
18:45
SPEAKER_00: We heard weird one source say that, and she was.
18:47
SPEAKER_00: Someone proved to me that was his name.
18:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
18:50
SPEAKER_00: This woman also, we won't say her name to embarrass this author, but she wrote like kind of a fan fiction author of like Fifty Shades of Grey or something like that.
19:00
SPEAKER_00: It was very felt Fifty Shades of Grey.
19:03
SPEAKER_00: She was like, and she locked eyes with the innkeeper's son, and they both knew.
19:07
SPEAKER_00: I was like, this is a lot of information.
19:08
SPEAKER_00: You know, how did you know?
19:09
SPEAKER_00: How did you know any of this?
19:10
SPEAKER_00: How did you know his name was William Bell, but not one other source said that.
19:14
SPEAKER_00: The part but the part I really laughed at, and I pointed out to Megan, I was like, she said something to the effect of, and Maggie's father was a raging alcoholic, and her mother was basically delusional.
19:24
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, okay, now you're just pulling up shit.
19:27
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
19:32
SPEAKER_00: There wasn't.
19:33
SPEAKER_00: So sorry.
19:34
SPEAKER_00: Maybe or maybe not.
19:35
SPEAKER_00: His name was William Bell.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't retaining though.
19:38
SPEAKER_00: It was it was hey, great, great, uh, you know, very lusty.
19:41
SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say great lustful text.
19:43
SPEAKER_00: Flowery, flowery text.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: So uh she she has this liaison rendezvous, whatever you want to call it, um, with the innkeeper son.
19:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, and she in fact becomes pregnant with the bastard child of this innkeeper son.
20:01
SPEAKER_00: So obviously she's a little nervous to disclose this pregnancy because she has a good job.
20:07
SPEAKER_00: She's finally providing for herself and perhaps her two children that may or may not exist.
20:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, but she, you know, she has a source of income and she obviously has this romantic relationship with this guy.
20:17
SPEAKER_00: So she doesn't tell anyone.
20:18
SPEAKER_00: She completely conceals this pregnancy and she keeps her keeps her job because she knows if she were to disclose to her employer, like, hey, by the way, I'm pregnant and I think it's the innkeeper's son.
20:28
SPEAKER_00: Well, not only that immediately fired.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: At this time in Scotland, there was actually a law called the Concealment of the Pregnancy Act.
20:36
SPEAKER_00: Convenient.
20:37
SPEAKER_00: Where they women were held legally accountable and could be arrested if they hid a pregnancy.
20:45
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
20:45
SPEAKER_00: What the actual Well, okay.
20:47
SPEAKER_00: So if you're pregnant and you're employed, you can't tell your employer because you'll be fired for being pregnant on the job, but you also can't hide it because that's illegal.
20:56
SPEAKER_00: Well, also, the point of this too is like for s situations like Maggie, when everybody knows that she's uh has an estranged husband or they're widowed or whatever, just not married, yes, they can't be pregnant, they can't hide it.
21:10
SPEAKER_00: And of course it's all on the women.
21:11
SPEAKER_00: The woman, right?
21:12
SPEAKER_00: Like it's not his fault, it's just her fault.
21:14
SPEAKER_00: Oh, totally.
21:15
SPEAKER_00: Always the woman.
21:16
SPEAKER_00: 1700 is for women Harlot.
21:19
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
21:19
SPEAKER_00: But it it's funny too, because again, even if she was a single woman, this still wouldn't be okay.
21:24
SPEAKER_00: Because even if she didn't have this husband who went off to do whatever, or a mother, you know, even if she was just single, they're like, Oh, you're, you know, a um seductress or you're Oh, it's all her fault.
21:35
SPEAKER_00: You know, you're someone who's talking about boys.
21:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like men will be men, but you can't do this with men.
21:41
SPEAKER_00: Um and they even actually had something at church called the seat of shame.
21:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh gosh.
21:46
SPEAKER_00: So essentially, if you were a woman who, again, was pregnant when you weren't supposed to be, or was known to have romantic liaisons when you shouldn't be.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: Basically, if you did anything as a woman, um, you would be put on this literal seat in church and Sunday after Sunday, they would point at you and use you as an example of like, and you never want to end up like this sinner, and just stare at you in the face.
22:08
SPEAKER_00: Literally just an excuse for everybody to judge and point fingers.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: Right.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: But only to women, not men.
22:13
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: I doubt, well, maybe if men were ever put in there, it'd be for something far worse, like murder.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: How dare you have eyes at this person?
22:22
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
22:23
SPEAKER_00: They were like, you were kissing in the public square.
22:26
SPEAKER_00: You wench.
22:27
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, um, so she again she knows all of the um the issues with telling people, so she discloses it, even though that's illegal.
22:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, but she eventually gets to a point where she has to have the baby now.
22:39
SPEAKER_00: And so there's a few trains of thought on this situation.
22:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, one, people think that she gave birth to a stillborn.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: Two, some people think that uh she gave birth, but it was to a pretty weak child.
22:52
SPEAKER_00: So maybe the child survived a day or two, but ultimately didn't make it.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: Three, and probably the saddest of routes is that she had the child and obviously had no way of really providing for it because she was barely providing for herself or her other children and was just lost in the world, and she decided to take its life.
23:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and she was trying to potentially hide him.
23:11
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
23:12
SPEAKER_00: So either way, whether you believe in one, two, or three, the child ends up dead.
23:17
SPEAKER_00: So she doesn't know what to do with the body of this small child.
23:20
SPEAKER_00: So what she does is she goes and she puts him in the river Tweed, which is really close to wherever this inn is.
23:26
SPEAKER_00: And you're quite right when you say put him in.
23:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I yeah, and I think that this actually like helps her case.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: Right.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: Because it was very clearly that he wasn't just like tossed or thrown in a fit of rage.
23:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was very like nicely placed, and someone came across him like very unscathed, you know?
23:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, a lot like Moses.
23:47
SPEAKER_00: That's kind of what I was picturing too.
23:49
SPEAKER_00: And I think that kind of helps her case, but really not so much because everyone's convinced that she murdered her baby.
23:56
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, the police started going around and questioning, and it was a neighbor who called her out and was like, I know Maggie was pregnant, she was trying to hide it, it's kind of obvious.
24:05
SPEAKER_00: I know she's not pregnant, and now we got this.
24:07
SPEAKER_00: And now there's no baby.
24:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, so Maggie got arrested.
24:10
SPEAKER_00: Right.
24:11
SPEAKER_00: At first, her charge was for violating the concealment act of pregnancy.
24:16
SPEAKER_00: Right.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: But they had a surgeon actually like do an autopsy on the baby.
24:23
SPEAKER_00: And it was actually, I think, quite clever.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: But his theory was if the lungs floated, it meant that there was some type of breath of air.
24:32
SPEAKER_00: Like at one point.
24:33
SPEAKER_00: At one point, yeah, the baby took a breath of air and there was air in the lungs and it could float.
24:37
SPEAKER_00: Right.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how true or not that would be.
24:39
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if that's actually would work.
24:41
SPEAKER_00: In my area, it sounds like I'm not a scientist, but sure, it could make sense.
24:45
SPEAKER_00: Does the air leave the lungs?
24:48
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
24:48
SPEAKER_00: Sounds good to me.
24:50
SPEAKER_00: Do you want to test it with penny?
24:52
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, my dog.
24:56
SPEAKER_00: I mean, she's kind of getting on my nerves, so I don't mind.
24:59
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but not so great for Maggie's case.
25:03
SPEAKER_00: Um, they do find her guilty of homicide.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: Infasize.
25:07
SPEAKER_00: Infasized.
25:08
SPEAKER_00: So they upped her charge pretty pretty steep.
25:10
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
25:11
SPEAKER_00: Um, they took her to Edinburgh to the tool boat, sorry, toll booth jail.
25:16
SPEAKER_00: Ooh, gow.
25:17
SPEAKER_00: Jail.
25:18
SPEAKER_00: Gal.
25:18
SPEAKER_00: I have to laugh at ourselves.
25:20
unknown: I know.
25:21
SPEAKER_00: I think we mentioned this on the Black Petty episode, but we came up again in this episode.
25:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, where we read the word jail, which is in English, proper English, Queen's English, is G-A-O-L.
25:35
SPEAKER_00: Never knew that before.
25:36
SPEAKER_00: Gowl.
25:37
SPEAKER_00: In my 31 years of existence.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: And I kept coming across them, like, in my mind, I'm reading it like gal, gailer.
25:43
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know.
25:47
SPEAKER_00: And then I was reading uh Hilary Mansell's Bring Up the Bodies, and she also spells it as the Gowl.
25:53
SPEAKER_00: Until I realized, oh my gosh, this is jail.
25:56
SPEAKER_00: And then I go back and like re-write.
25:58
SPEAKER_00: Right.
25:59
SPEAKER_00: I think you found out because we like searched it online and we're like, how do you pronounce this?
26:03
SPEAKER_00: And it was like Jail.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: Jail.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: We're like, oh jail.
26:07
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna make t-shirts.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we should make t-shirts.
26:10
SPEAKER_00: What was it gonna say?
26:11
SPEAKER_00: Like, take me to the gowl.
26:12
SPEAKER_00: Take me to the gowel.
26:13
SPEAKER_00: Or like throw me in the drunk gal in the Thames River.
26:16
SPEAKER_00: Thames River.
26:17
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, please forgive us.
26:19
SPEAKER_00: We do try.
26:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, so she's taken a the jail.
26:23
SPEAKER_00: The gowl.
26:24
SPEAKER_00: Edinburgh.
26:25
SPEAKER_00: In Edinburgh.
26:27
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm being serious.
26:28
SPEAKER_00: Um, they said while she was in jail, she was very sorrowful, very remorseful.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: I thought this was interesting.
26:35
SPEAKER_00: She did admit that she was guilty of fornication, which makes sense because she was pregnant.
26:40
SPEAKER_00: With child.
26:41
SPEAKER_00: She was with child.
26:42
SPEAKER_00: However, she always denied murdering that baby.
26:46
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
26:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, they were interrogating her, and she even said, like, I would I gave birth by myself.
26:52
SPEAKER_00: And they're like, Well, why didn't you tell anyone?
26:55
SPEAKER_00: She's like, it happened so quickly.
26:57
SPEAKER_00: It's illegal.
26:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:58
SPEAKER_00: Well, she was like, I didn't even have time, and like I couldn't even move, I couldn't get the help.
27:02
SPEAKER_00: She was like, but it was such a traumatic experience.
27:04
SPEAKER_00: Like, to be quite frank, I was insensible by by the end.
27:07
SPEAKER_00: And she's like, I don't know what happened.
27:10
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if he was born, you know, deceased.
27:13
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if he died shortly after.
27:15
SPEAKER_00: Well, and that could be like postpartum depression, right?
27:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's like something that happens to women when you have birth, is it's such a traumatic experience that you have these strange, like manic depressive moods and thoughts and whatever, and sometimes action.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: So again, she might have blacked out in terms of her memory, or she might have taken her thoughts, you know, and inflicted pain on this child.
27:36
SPEAKER_00: Like, who knows?
27:36
SPEAKER_00: But that was kind of her argument.
27:38
SPEAKER_00: Is like, I I'm not not sure.
27:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but all along she was very firm in saying, but I know I did not intentionally murder this baby, right?
27:46
SPEAKER_00: Like with malicious intent, kind of thing.
27:49
SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately, it didn't help.
27:50
SPEAKER_00: It was an all-male jury.
27:52
SPEAKER_00: Shocking.
27:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, shocking.
27:55
SPEAKER_00: And of course, she's a terrible human being.
27:57
SPEAKER_00: So she was sentenced to death.
27:59
SPEAKER_00: Again, she's only about 22 or 23 years old.
28:02
SPEAKER_00: Right.
28:02
SPEAKER_00: Pretty sad.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: No idea what happened to her kids or the rest of the family.
28:05
SPEAKER_00: Or like her lover.
28:06
SPEAKER_00: Lovers like peace.
28:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, peace out.
28:08
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, take some blame on that, but whatever.
28:11
SPEAKER_00: Men.
28:12
SPEAKER_00: Um September 2nd, 9.
28:15
SPEAKER_00: Whoa, not 19.
28:16
SPEAKER_00: No.
28:17
SPEAKER_00: 1945.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: September 2nd, 1724 was the day of her hanging.
28:24
SPEAKER_00: Hanging.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: Whoa.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: Hanging Maggie was getting hung up and strung up on September 7th.
28:30
SPEAKER_00: We're just blurring a lot of accents together.
28:33
SPEAKER_00: Um, it was in the Grass market district.
28:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:37
SPEAKER_00: Which is a really cool little part of town we found out in Edinburgh.
28:42
SPEAKER_00: Edinburgh.
28:43
SPEAKER_00: So when we were looking um up, because I we usually mention this, but we always try to watch different documentaries for part of our research.
28:50
SPEAKER_00: And we couldn't find anything that was like, you know, from the History Channel or anything like too scholarly.
28:56
SPEAKER_00: We found a ton of videos from probably like Edinburgh residents.
29:00
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
29:01
SPEAKER_00: Edinburgh, damn it.
29:02
SPEAKER_00: Residents.
29:02
SPEAKER_00: I I rubbed off on you because I keep it.
29:06
SPEAKER_00: Edinburgh.
29:06
SPEAKER_00: Edinburgh! Edinburgh! Okay, yes.
29:08
SPEAKER_00: Say it three times, you'll get it.
29:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, but we we watched a lot of videos from like uh you know Edinburgh residents where they were showing you parts of town and they take you through this cute old town area where there's street performers and all these pubs, and they describe all the different bars.
29:23
SPEAKER_00: Oh definitely.
29:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're like, we're gonna add that to our map of landmarks we're gonna visit whenever we take our trip, you know, across the pond.
29:31
SPEAKER_00: Um but it was it was really cool to see it from that perspective because it was people again that were born and raised in those areas with those legends of these people, and um there was essentially this really nice uh, I guess like circle, literally like an actual circle in the middle of Grass Market where they held the executions.
29:49
SPEAKER_00: So if you go there, it was funny because one one of the guys we were watching, he was like, Oh, if you see behind me, there's this circle in the middle of the square.
29:55
SPEAKER_00: And he's like, Are you Australian?
29:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
29:58
SPEAKER_00: He was definitely Australian.
29:59
SPEAKER_00: That's my Scottish accent.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: Oh no, but um, so there's these like little girls playing on it, and it's like this execution site.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: They're like, oh yeah, right there was where Maggie Dixon was hanging.
30:08
SPEAKER_00: They're like ribbon dancing on it.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, it was kind of disgraceful.
30:12
SPEAKER_00: Um but we would go there and we would like leave bow tokens of yeah, we would bow, we would leave tokens.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: And say prayers, have a drink of wine.
30:20
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
30:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, so very similar to how she behaved in the and the gal in the jail, but she was very sorrowful.
30:28
SPEAKER_00: She still denied everything, and she just was like very, you know, sorry, I think for where she ended up in her life.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: Um, they hanged her.
30:39
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: And they did hang her.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna emphasize they hanged her.
30:44
SPEAKER_00: And you might be wondering, hmm, we're only 30 minutes in and we just got to the hanging.
30:48
SPEAKER_00: I wonder why.
30:49
SPEAKER_00: They hanged her.
30:50
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
30:51
SPEAKER_00: Her family started fighting with some medical scholars who showed up because fun fact, in the words of Elizabeth, fun fact.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: At this time in Scotland, it was really like a big rise in the enlightenment of medical research.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: Research.
31:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: And however, medical students could only dissect the bodies of executed like people, victims, I'm gonna call them executiones, right?
31:17
SPEAKER_00: Our favorite word.
31:17
SPEAKER_00: Because a lot of it's made up.
31:19
SPEAKER_00: You know, they didn't have family, they were seen as kind of the scum of society, so why wouldn't you just use their bodies for deserve a burial?
31:26
SPEAKER_00: Right.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so they used them for medical purposes, and they're all kind of like surrounding around like vultures, I feel like, just like weighing the scoop up the body when I imagine.
31:35
SPEAKER_00: They're just in their lab coats, like literally circling.
31:38
SPEAKER_00: Oh, we got a lady, got some lady parts to dissect.
31:42
SPEAKER_00: Her whimsical, weird.
31:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm just picturing some like Disney version of vultures.
31:46
SPEAKER_00: Brain.
31:47
SPEAKER_00: Um, but her family was there and they got into a full embrawl in the middle of Grass Market Circle because they wanted to keep her body and they wanted to do a proper burial in her hometown.
31:57
SPEAKER_00: And they were like, no, science and medical, medical purposes.
32:00
SPEAKER_00: And they were like, no.
32:01
SPEAKER_00: Her family was like, she has a home parish, you know, back in Musselboro, and we're gonna take her there, and that's where she's gonna properly be buried.
32:08
SPEAKER_00: And that was about six miles away from Edinburgh.
32:11
SPEAKER_00: The family won, right?
32:12
SPEAKER_00: The family won.
32:13
SPEAKER_00: The family did win, yeah.
32:14
SPEAKER_00: And they got to keep her body.
32:15
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
32:16
SPEAKER_00: What a time.
32:17
SPEAKER_00: What a time.
32:18
SPEAKER_00: They put her in a coffin, a very cheap wooden coffin.
32:22
SPEAKER_00: That's important.
32:23
SPEAKER_00: It is important.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: Very cheap wooden coffin.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then they're on their way back home with sweet little Maggie in the coffin.
32:34
SPEAKER_00: Right.
32:34
SPEAKER_00: And what do you naturally do?
32:36
SPEAKER_00: Recently hanged.
32:37
SPEAKER_00: What do we do?
32:39
SPEAKER_00: We stop at a pub.
32:40
SPEAKER_00: We go drink.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:42
SPEAKER_00: They probably were either like kind of decompressing from the day.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I see a pub, I'm like, great idea.
32:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, most likely.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's the pallbearers of this cheap coffin, and they say, okay, six miles away, we gotta take this all the way.
32:59
SPEAKER_00: There's no cars, there's no trains.
33:01
SPEAKER_00: Maybe there's a horse and carriage, who knows?
33:04
SPEAKER_00: But maybe they just have to carry this for six miles.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: I swear we're good getting somewhere with this story.
33:08
SPEAKER_00: Like, who cares?
33:10
SPEAKER_00: So they so there's the family is now drinking in the pub.
33:13
SPEAKER_00: Right.
33:14
SPEAKER_00: And they start to notice something.
33:16
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
33:17
SPEAKER_00: So at some point, and we're not sure if someone inside the pub saw this happen on the street, or if a passerby on the street saw it happen, but at some point, someone says, I think someone's trying to get out of your box.
33:32
SPEAKER_00: Your coffin.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: I think the coffin is moving.
33:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think the lid is shifting, and they're like, I'm sorry, what?
33:40
SPEAKER_00: And they're probably, I don't know, I mean, guess what?
33:43
SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say three pints in at this point, like, oh, I think y'all seeing things, now I'm doing other than that.
33:50
SPEAKER_00: I didn't practice before this.
33:52
SPEAKER_00: I swear I swear I can do accents, just not when I'm not, you know, practicing.
33:56
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
33:57
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so eventually they're like, oh my god, this the casket is moving.
34:02
SPEAKER_00: This flimsy wooden box that's sitting on the Maggie that's on the car is now moving.
34:08
SPEAKER_00: Um and so they go out, and sure enough, Maggie emerges.
34:13
SPEAKER_00: Pops up pops up, but Maggie fully comes out of the cockpit.
34:17
SPEAKER_00: Guys are not playing with you.
34:18
SPEAKER_00: This is a real story.
34:20
SPEAKER_00: And then her first word, her first word was, oh my god.
34:25
SPEAKER_00: Is this heaven?
34:26
SPEAKER_00: This looks just like Edinburgh.
34:28
SPEAKER_00: Wow, heaven has a lot of beer.
34:31
SPEAKER_00: Heaven looks just like my favorite pub.
34:33
SPEAKER_00: Which would be my heaven.
34:35
SPEAKER_00: This is a real story.
34:36
SPEAKER_00: The bitch survived! She wakes up, legit wakes up, and at this point, everyone is freaked out.
34:43
SPEAKER_00: Because this is the 1700s.
34:44
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, I would be freaked out now.
34:47
SPEAKER_00: They have seen her hanged, they pronounced her dead, they argued over her body, and here she is.
34:52
SPEAKER_00: Put her in a coffin.
34:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like lailing her down, coming out of her own coffin, which, by the way, we mentioned that it's a cheap wooden coffin because people think that because it wasn't just a sealed coffin where you have no air, that obviously that's what contributed to her staying alive.
35:08
SPEAKER_00: So it's a cheap, cheaply made coffin, she's breathing, and she finally wakes up from her uh strangled stupor, should we say?
35:16
SPEAKER_00: A little uh a little crick in the neck later.
35:19
SPEAKER_00: A little crick in the neck, a little tender.
35:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, a little you know, she's like, why does my neck hurt?
35:23
SPEAKER_00: Where am I?
35:23
SPEAKER_00: Uh it would be so discombobulated.
35:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'd be like, You're in a box, you're confined.
35:29
SPEAKER_00: Right.
35:30
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
35:30
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what you do.
35:31
SPEAKER_00: And who knows what at what point she woke up?
35:33
SPEAKER_00: Like, was she up for an hour before she started pressing on the top of her box?
35:37
SPEAKER_00: Like, who knows what her I'm thinking like a kill bill situation where you just wake up and you're like, oh crap, like I'm underground.
35:43
SPEAKER_00: But she wasn't underground, thank God.
35:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, but so she she finally wakes up, and it's like at this point, people are like, Whoa, a, this is a miracle, like this is some sort of divine intervention.
35:56
SPEAKER_00: So this is an act of God.
35:57
SPEAKER_00: Like she was meant to live.
35:59
SPEAKER_00: Was meant to live because she woke up from death, like she literally has arisen from the dead.
36:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, so people were first of all in awe, but then once they considered the situation, and some people thought, well, I mean, she's technically a murderess, or you know, at least she conceals her pregnancy, whatever the crime might be, like we we have to kill her again.
36:19
SPEAKER_00: But they were looking into you know the Scots law at the time, and they decided, you know, she carried out her sentence.
36:26
SPEAKER_00: Technically, it got carried out.
36:28
SPEAKER_00: She got hanged was that she was to be hanged.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: And was she hanged?
36:31
SPEAKER_00: She got hanged.
36:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:33
SPEAKER_00: She was hanged.
36:34
SPEAKER_00: So they said, well, you can't uh under again Scottish law, you couldn't tr like try someone a second time for the same crime.
36:41
SPEAKER_00: You couldn't say, hey, you're gonna be executed again, exactly the way you were for the exact same crime.
36:47
SPEAKER_00: It's like double jeopardy.
36:48
SPEAKER_00: Not until 1790.
36:50
SPEAKER_00: Right.
36:51
SPEAKER_00: In 1790, probably because of part of this, right, they actually changed the legal vocabulary when someone was sentenced to being hanged.
36:59
SPEAKER_00: They went from being hanged until hanged until dead.
37:02
SPEAKER_00: They had to say that.
37:03
SPEAKER_00: And that's why, and when you're like watching movies and whatnot, they say hanging till the hanging by the neck until dead.
37:10
SPEAKER_00: Right.
37:10
SPEAKER_00: Those last two words, until dead, are so important because of Maggie.
37:15
SPEAKER_00: Maggie, they they came down to saying, well, she followed through on her sentence.
37:20
SPEAKER_00: We can't execute her twice.
37:22
SPEAKER_00: Right.
37:23
SPEAKER_00: So it's bizarre.
37:25
SPEAKER_00: It's so bizarre.
37:26
SPEAKER_00: I love this story.
37:28
SPEAKER_00: It's really bizarre.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: This is better than Black Betty, who became the executioner.
37:32
SPEAKER_00: Don't say Black Betty.
37:33
SPEAKER_00: No, let's not compare the two.
37:35
SPEAKER_00: We keep referencing her in this, but I think it's very relatable.
37:38
SPEAKER_00: Both of them are very similar.
37:40
SPEAKER_00: Kind of like Joan and Zoya.
37:41
SPEAKER_00: This is like a Black Betty, uh, you know, versus Margaret Dixon.
37:45
SPEAKER_00: Um, anyway, but so so she again is alive and well.
37:49
SPEAKER_00: People think might maybe this is an act of God.
37:52
SPEAKER_00: People think, hey, based on the rules of Scottish law and double jeopardy, you cannot actually execute her again.
37:57
SPEAKER_00: So all of her crimes were pardoned.
37:59
SPEAKER_00: Every she she followed through on all her senses.
38:02
SPEAKER_00: Just got off.
38:02
SPEAKER_00: That's also to mention, so alive and well, they say that she recovered at the pub within the hour and walked her way back home.
38:11
SPEAKER_00: Had a drink.
38:12
SPEAKER_00: She had a shot of whiskey, and she was.
38:14
SPEAKER_00: I'm good, you guys.
38:15
SPEAKER_00: I'm good.
38:15
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
38:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, so she did have some neck problems.
38:20
SPEAKER_00: I imagine.
38:21
unknown: Exactly.
38:21
SPEAKER_00: She might have had her ears.
38:23
SPEAKER_00: Some some soreness in her neck.
38:25
SPEAKER_00: We think she actually broke one of her vertebrates, but she was overall fine.
38:28
SPEAKER_00: Which is the point of it hanging, is that you crack your vertebrae or you know, again, you strengthen it.
38:32
SPEAKER_00: She had um some neck issues, some needed a chiropractor.
38:35
SPEAKER_00: But get this too.
38:36
SPEAKER_00: Remember we mentioned her fisherman deadbeat husband who left her at the beginning?
38:40
SPEAKER_00: This guy.
38:41
SPEAKER_00: He comes back, they rekindle their relationship within days.
38:45
SPEAKER_00: And this is funny that they have to remarry because she was technically dead.
38:49
SPEAKER_00: She was pronounced dead to the point they had to redo everything.
38:53
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, the whole lyric, like till death do us part.
38:55
SPEAKER_00: Well, death parted them.
38:56
SPEAKER_00: Death parted them, and then he comes back.
38:58
SPEAKER_00: And then he comes back, he's like, Oh, she's dead.
39:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm back in town.
39:01
SPEAKER_00: Oh shit, she's alive.
39:02
SPEAKER_00: It's a fresh new marriage at this point.
39:04
SPEAKER_00: I guess we're just gonna get married again because I'm trying to be a nice guy here.
39:07
SPEAKER_00: So they get married again, they have several more children.
39:11
SPEAKER_00: She lives for 40 more years, and they live happily ever after.
39:15
SPEAKER_00: She died naturally in 1765.
39:18
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
39:19
SPEAKER_00: Became famous.
39:20
SPEAKER_00: People recognized her, people knew her as half hang it maggie.
39:25
SPEAKER_00: I do a maggie.
39:26
SPEAKER_00: She was the half hangit.
39:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll say it, half hang it.
39:30
SPEAKER_00: Hang it.
39:30
SPEAKER_00: What you doing tonight?
39:32
SPEAKER_00: She's like, Yeah, I'm getting a little neck massage still.
39:35
SPEAKER_00: She's like, ooh, you know, tonight's not a neck night.
39:38
SPEAKER_00: I feel bad she didn't know what a chiropractor was back then.
39:41
SPEAKER_00: You know?
39:41
SPEAKER_00: Oh man.
39:42
SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's why being a chiropractor was born.
39:46
SPEAKER_00: I know it's like short, sweet, not awkward.
39:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, very straightforward, but man, I never knew about this before.
39:54
SPEAKER_00: And as I as we did both of us mentioned, but but uh as both of us mentioned, you know, all these YouTube videos and different documentaries all take place on like pub crawls uh in Edinburgh.
40:06
SPEAKER_00: So there's a pub that's dedicated to Maggie, and it's called Maggie Dixon's pub, and it's again in Old Town, like in Grass Market.
40:14
SPEAKER_00: Literally across the execution site.
40:16
SPEAKER_00: You could be drinking a pint and look at her execution site.
40:20
SPEAKER_00: Or be drinking a pint on her execution site and looking at the pub.
40:24
SPEAKER_00: Either way, if that's legal.
40:25
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what the drinking rules are like in Edinburgh.
40:28
SPEAKER_00: Right.
40:28
SPEAKER_00: But we're gonna go there.
40:30
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna go there one day.
40:31
SPEAKER_00: Um it's it looks amazing.
40:34
SPEAKER_00: And it's we're so cool.
40:35
SPEAKER_00: We were randomly coming across like uh we went down a rabbit hole of like Scottish pubs.
40:41
SPEAKER_00: We found this really cool, like I guess they're a Spanish band, but they do like Celtic music.
40:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh, we were talking about that, yeah.
40:46
SPEAKER_00: And they're called Thirteen Krause, because we're like, this is an amazing song.
40:49
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna put it in the credits, and we're like, oh, it's literally all in Spanish.
40:52
SPEAKER_00: But hey, maybe we'll sneak it into it.
40:54
SPEAKER_00: I've never heard of this.
40:55
SPEAKER_00: It's really cool.
40:56
SPEAKER_00: It's it's like my blood.
40:58
SPEAKER_00: Celtic Spanish punk punk.
41:00
SPEAKER_00: Punk.
41:01
SPEAKER_00: A Celtic punk band.
41:03
SPEAKER_00: So it's like kind of like vlogging Molly-ish, but with backpipes and everything.
41:08
SPEAKER_00: Which fucking, yeah.
41:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:09
SPEAKER_00: But all in Spanish, and they're from Spain.
41:11
SPEAKER_00: Kind of hot too.
41:12
SPEAKER_00: They're actually really handsome.
41:13
SPEAKER_00: They have this their song.
41:15
SPEAKER_00: If they're fans of our show, they can come on anytime.
41:18
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they were pretty cute.
41:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, but they have a song about Maggie Dixon.
41:23
SPEAKER_00: Right.
41:23
SPEAKER_00: And they even have a music video of like a reenactment of a girl playing out as Maggie.
41:28
SPEAKER_00: It's cute.
41:28
SPEAKER_00: It's a great idea.
41:29
SPEAKER_00: It's kind of haunting because they show her like in the coffin and everything and like getting hanged.
41:34
SPEAKER_00: My favorite part of that music video is like right before they hang her, they shove a flask in her mouth and give her like her last drink or whatever.
41:41
SPEAKER_00: What's the point of that?
41:42
SPEAKER_00: About to go down.
41:44
SPEAKER_00: I mean, if I'm gonna go down, I'll just try this situation.
41:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, we'd we learned all about Captain Kid.
41:49
SPEAKER_00: You need some loosey goosey neck, even if you can just get it in your last moments.
41:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, but anyway, so so we eventually again want to go to this pub.
41:56
SPEAKER_00: It looks very awesome.
41:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, if you've been there, let us know.
41:59
SPEAKER_00: Post pictures, like send them to us.
42:01
SPEAKER_00: Um, but we'll sit we'll post some pictures of this pub.
42:04
SPEAKER_00: Um, and just a few like last notes, too.
42:07
SPEAKER_00: They said again, for the rest of her life, she was very grateful for the fact that she was alive.
42:11
SPEAKER_00: Apparently, she wasn't very religious before this hanging, and afterwards she dedicated one day a week to like fasting and prayers and making sure that she lived.
42:20
SPEAKER_03: I would too.
42:20
SPEAKER_00: I know, like a nice life.
42:22
SPEAKER_00: She literally got a second chance at life.
42:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
42:25
SPEAKER_00: Some people do think that she might have bribed or did sexual favors to either the guy who made the rope.
42:32
SPEAKER_00: Rumors.
42:32
SPEAKER_00: I know, right?
42:33
SPEAKER_00: Of course.
42:34
SPEAKER_00: Because she's a woman, of course, she would exchange sexual favors for a weak rope.
42:38
SPEAKER_00: But they might have thought maybe she had something to do with the weaker rope, or maybe talk to the executioner about letting her have her hands free so she could loosen it up.
42:47
SPEAKER_00: You know what this reminds me of?
42:49
SPEAKER_00: What?
42:49
SPEAKER_00: Did you ever see on Netflix um, what's it called?
42:52
SPEAKER_00: The ballad of Buster Scrubs?
42:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
42:55
SPEAKER_00: Actually surprised.
42:56
SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's really good.
42:58
SPEAKER_00: Right.
42:58
SPEAKER_00: That it's a weird, you kind of have to be very quirky.
43:01
SPEAKER_00: No, what?
43:02
SPEAKER_00: I didn't say that.
43:03
SPEAKER_00: Not me.
43:04
SPEAKER_00: No, not me either.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: My my friend, half a gummy Megan.
43:08
unknown: Who?
43:08
SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm gonna call it.
43:09
SPEAKER_00: Half a gummy Maggie.
43:10
SPEAKER_00: Instead of half hang it Maggie, you're half a gummy Megan.
43:13
SPEAKER_00: All you ever do is half a gummy.
43:15
SPEAKER_00: That's all you gotta do.
43:15
SPEAKER_00: Half a gummy.
43:17
SPEAKER_00: But uh, what's his face?
43:19
SPEAKER_00: James Franco.
43:20
SPEAKER_00: So it's the the show, if you haven't watched it, I highly recommend.
43:22
SPEAKER_00: It's little short films all to do with like the wild, wild west.
43:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
43:27
SPEAKER_00: Some are really sad, some are just funny, some are graphic.
43:30
SPEAKER_00: Weird, very graphic.
43:32
SPEAKER_00: The one with James Franco, though, I don't want to like give away any endings, but basically, like he got out of his first execution and then he's like getting hanged again again.
43:40
SPEAKER_00: And then he's like standing next to another guy who's like really nervous because she's no, he's about to get hanged, and he just looks at him, smirks, and he just goes, first time.
43:50
SPEAKER_00: Which is so perfect.
43:51
SPEAKER_00: I hope that if I ever, ever in the future get hanged in like a batch of people.
43:56
SPEAKER_00: No, if this happens, I will do this.
43:58
SPEAKER_00: I promise you all, if I'm Getting hanged in a batch of people, I'm gonna look over to the next person and just say first time.
44:05
SPEAKER_00: Just to see their reaction and their fear in their eyes.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because it's not already such a dramatic moment.
44:11
SPEAKER_00: I would love it for someone to do an execution podcast on me later and be like, you know what I'm gonna put the thing.
44:16
SPEAKER_00: You know what she said?
44:17
SPEAKER_00: You know what she said?
44:18
SPEAKER_00: She said the first time.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: Mine's gonna be like the what's his face or us.
44:25
SPEAKER_00: Think of us think of.
44:26
SPEAKER_00: Shut up, you dog.
44:27
SPEAKER_00: Shut up, you dog.
44:28
SPEAKER_00: No, we're gonna be at the same execution scene, and I'm gonna say, you're gonna look at you say the first time, and you're gonna say, Shut up, you dog, and then we both go down.
44:37
SPEAKER_00: We should not even put this out there in the universe.
44:39
SPEAKER_00: If we get in a handmaid's tale situation in the future, we're next to each other, we gotta make it happen.
44:44
SPEAKER_00: We owe it to our listeners.
44:46
SPEAKER_00: Do we though?
44:47
SPEAKER_00: Anyway.
44:48
SPEAKER_00: Um before we go, we're gonna part with a quick segment.
44:52
SPEAKER_00: Um we're looking at our segments to see which one would really fit this episode, and we think it's an escape plan.
44:59
SPEAKER_00: Given that she could have just busted out of the box and ran away.
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SPEAKER_00: We think that would be appropriate.
45:05
SPEAKER_00: Well, here's kind of the question that Elizabeth and I were talking about.
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SPEAKER_00: When she realized that she's alive, right, in the box, in the box, in the coffin.
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SPEAKER_00: In the coffin, the coffin, just a word for a box.
45:19
SPEAKER_00: Like, if I were her, I would be like, okay, if they see me, are they gonna string me up again?
45:24
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
45:25
SPEAKER_00: That I was like that she would just come out of the box and be like, yo! I'm here.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: It's not like this is a frequent occurrence where people know the laws of what happens if you don't die.
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SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
45:36
SPEAKER_00: I don't think she was well versed in the double jeopardy law.
45:40
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, um, the question is again, based on escape plan, our segment, if you were to like wake up in this box, at what moment would you box a coffin, tomato tomato semantics?
45:55
SPEAKER_00: If you were to wake up, what what what point would you think now is the right time for me to burst out of here with a question?
46:03
SPEAKER_00: Last stupid question.
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SPEAKER_00: Last second real question she faced it.
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SPEAKER_00: I I made a list of like well whether out I'm talking about last week's second whatever, never mind.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: I would I'm thinking I would creep them out intentionally.
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SPEAKER_00: Like you would wait until they were about to bury you.
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SPEAKER_00: No.
46:28
SPEAKER_00: I would wait as they were, totally chill, drinking away.
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SPEAKER_00: I would walk up to the bartender and like be like, anyone gonna order this drink for me?
46:38
SPEAKER_00: So you'd like sneak out of your box, not make a fuss.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I wouldn't make a fuss.
46:42
SPEAKER_00: I would try and go to go and then just like try to order a drink and see what happens and who has a heart attack first.
46:49
SPEAKER_00: You should also like on your way there.
46:50
SPEAKER_00: And I would pretend like I was dead.
46:51
SPEAKER_00: On your way there, yeah, you should like go and like fix up your makeup so you look more dead.
46:55
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, because I would make more maybe you have makeup in your satchel, but they vary you.
47:00
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
47:02
SPEAKER_00: Hey, this is a fictitious segment.
47:04
SPEAKER_00: You go and you'd like make the wounds in your neck look a little more severe and your eyes a little more black.
47:08
SPEAKER_00: Wait, take all this back.
47:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna wait until they're all in their beds at night and I'm gonna stand over them and talk about it.
47:14
SPEAKER_00: You can't do multiple.
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SPEAKER_00: We talked about this.
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SPEAKER_00: You gotta pick one path.
47:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but my mind runs away from me, and I think of better things as I'm talking.
47:21
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so option A for you is you walk into the pub with them and you order a drink and you say like, and I just sit down and like cat roll.
47:29
SPEAKER_00: Sit down and see who notices you, and then I'll be like, and then I'm gonna look at them and I'll be like from a movie, I'll be like, You look like you just saw a ghost.
47:37
SPEAKER_00: But I'd be Scottish.
47:38
SPEAKER_00: That was my like that was my Western scrub.
47:40
SPEAKER_00: That was my investor scrub.
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SPEAKER_00: Scottish.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you just saw a ghost.
47:45
SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you just saw a ghost, sir.
47:46
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I like that.
47:47
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna erase the other one you said about waiting until they're in their beds.
47:50
SPEAKER_00: But I like that.
47:52
SPEAKER_00: Not if I also upload the unedited version again and everyone can hear that.
47:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if that happens, you know why.
47:59
SPEAKER_00: Now I have to double table check my work now.
48:01
SPEAKER_00: Drinking wine while she's editing.
48:03
SPEAKER_00: Whoops.
48:03
SPEAKER_00: That happens a lot.
48:05
SPEAKER_00: Uh tomorrow is a brandy night.
48:07
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna have brandy for the first time.
48:08
SPEAKER_00: So you're a brain, folks, but it's gonna be accent.
48:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh we'll let you know how that goes.
48:18
SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you why next episode.
48:20
SPEAKER_00: Um anyway, so for me, I actually think I would do it in a very dramatic fashion where I imagine at the point where they're burying me.
48:28
SPEAKER_00: Because if you've ever been to like a funeral, like the family comes, they say their peace to you while you're still in the gift casket in the box.
48:36
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, I've never actually died before.
48:38
SPEAKER_00: You have no first time.
48:42
SPEAKER_00: I knew that was coming.
48:43
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, um, but but at a funeral, if you've never been, um, usually what they do is like they obviously have the funeral, the actual like ceremony for you, and then when they put you in the ground, it's rare that someone actually sees you get lowered and like put all the dirt on you, because that's kind of tragic.
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SPEAKER_00: So maybe you go and put a few drops of dirt or flour or something.
49:04
SPEAKER_00: And you wait automatically.
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SPEAKER_00: I would wait until all of that happens, assuming I'm in this cheaply made box where I can still breathe.
49:12
SPEAKER_00: And I would wait until it's just me and like the two grave diggers.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
49:16
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
49:16
SPEAKER_03: And I would wait.
49:17
SPEAKER_00: And I would wait until I could, like, until I knew I couldn't like last any longer, to where they're like burying me and putting dirt on me.
49:24
SPEAKER_00: And how much dirt?
49:25
SPEAKER_00: At what point?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: I haven't been in the situation, but I'd have to kind of assess on the fly, okay, this is enough dirt for me to bust out of.
49:33
SPEAKER_00: And then I shoot my hand up out of this cheaply made box and I wave it around at the people who are throwing dirt on me, listen to their screams, probably hear them run away.
49:42
SPEAKER_00: I wish y'all could see how animated Elizabeth is.
49:47
SPEAKER_00: The quality of sound is like she's like kind of rambunctious.
49:50
SPEAKER_00: It's because she's like flattering.
49:52
SPEAKER_00: I've ever been excited.
49:53
SPEAKER_00: You're like fleeting your arms around like reenacting this whole thing.
49:56
SPEAKER_00: And I'm sitting here like and I obviously they would run away because they're terrified.
50:02
SPEAKER_00: So I'd wait to hear their little pitter-patter steps kind of go away from the grave.
50:06
SPEAKER_00: And oh my gosh, and then I'd piece out, and I wouldn't tell anyone.
50:12
SPEAKER_00: Like I wouldn't go and you would like start a new identity.
50:15
SPEAKER_00: No! I don't want to go down as a legend.
50:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but you already are a legend because you're the girl that maybe came out of her coffin.
50:23
SPEAKER_00: You know, oh and maybe to make the legend even better, like I'd leave town right away.
50:28
SPEAKER_00: Like I'd leave, go come back ten years later.
50:30
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
50:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
50:30
SPEAKER_00: I would come back every 10 years, like dressed in maybe whatever I wore on execution.
50:35
SPEAKER_00: Okay, you're like really thinking about this deeply.
50:38
SPEAKER_00: You're talking about editing me out?
50:40
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna edit you out.
50:42
SPEAKER_00: You're I don't know where you are at this point.
50:47
SPEAKER_00: You're at the bar getting whiskeys.
50:49
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
50:50
SPEAKER_00: I would I would let you know the secret video.
50:52
SPEAKER_00: But I don't know, you kind of got a big mouth sometimes.
50:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm loyal.
50:57
SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay, you are loyal.
50:58
SPEAKER_00: You're right.
50:59
SPEAKER_00: I would tell you.
51:00
SPEAKER_00: I would tell you, and I'd be like, oh, I'd be like Pirates of the Caribbean, where I'd be like, Megan.
51:06
SPEAKER_00: Megan, every 10 years I'm coming back for you.
51:09
SPEAKER_00: And I we'll we'll have a wonderful day together.
51:15
SPEAKER_00: This is taking me back to the Thomas More episode when it was just like a really bad segment.
51:20
SPEAKER_00: That is a great segment.
51:22
SPEAKER_00: I think it's getting better as we go on.
51:26
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna get on time.
51:27
SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
51:28
SPEAKER_00: That's all, that's all.
51:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying I would I would burst out like in the grave, scare those two people, and then I'd come back every 10 years.
51:34
SPEAKER_00: Every 10 years just to keep my legend alive, and people are like, how is this called?
51:38
SPEAKER_00: I don't think I saw that Elizabeth the Black lady the other day.
51:40
SPEAKER_00: Like, no, she's been dead ten years.
51:41
SPEAKER_00: Like, you're right, she's not here ten years later.
51:44
SPEAKER_00: I saw her again.
51:45
SPEAKER_00: She keeps coming.
51:47
SPEAKER_00: I gotta worry about this.
51:49
SPEAKER_00: Now, okay, if you ever die, and I hope you don't, I'm gonna die.
51:52
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we all die expectedly in the near future.
51:55
SPEAKER_00: Now I'm gonna be afraid of this.
51:58
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
51:59
SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, on that note, really quick before we end this fiasco, um I got that cool um license plate for you.
52:08
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, you did.
52:10
SPEAKER_03: And we had a started with the idea of having merchandise for the code.
52:19
SPEAKER_00: Because some of you have asked for some of our merchandise.
52:22
SPEAKER_00: So maybe if I just like submit one out there and get an idea because I ain't gonna put in all this effort and monies, I ain't gonna put monies into merchandise.
52:33
SPEAKER_00: But uh, anyways, we've been thinking about it.
52:36
SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna test it out.
52:37
SPEAKER_00: And okay, I don't know how vulgar it is.
52:39
SPEAKER_00: Like if you're a license, not vulgar.
52:41
SPEAKER_00: But if it says beheaded.
52:45
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if I'm gonna like get flipped off a lot on the road and people think I'm like a psychopath.
52:49
SPEAKER_00: We'll let you know.
52:50
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
52:51
SPEAKER_00: I'll let you know how to do it.
52:51
SPEAKER_00: I might get one too.
52:53
SPEAKER_00: It's starting with editing cute.
52:55
SPEAKER_00: So maybe they'll see who is editing it, and then they'll be like, oh, she's innocent.
52:59
SPEAKER_00: She's cute and innocent.
53:00
SPEAKER_00: I gotta Google this beheaded podcast.
53:02
SPEAKER_00: And I'll be like, oh I gotta.
53:04
SPEAKER_00: And then maybe people that are already fans in the area will like honk it.
53:08
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, maybe.
53:10
SPEAKER_00: Anywho, um I will post a few things on the gram.
53:14
SPEAKER_00: Okay, like, follow, all the dates, comments, buy merch when we have the merch.
53:22
SPEAKER_00: When we have the merge, buy the merch.
53:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
53:25
SPEAKER_00: And um, any final words?
53:27
SPEAKER_00: See you in ten years.
53:29
SPEAKER_00: Oh god.