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EP 46 - HOW TO RECOGNISE A BAD MAN? · Relatables

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  Speaker 1: This person, this poor woman thought that it was weird
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  Speaker 1: to talk about a period because who she was with
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: said it's weird to talk about a period. Look, this
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  Speaker 1: is like the last, this is only three days and
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  Speaker 1: there's like 15 poos on there. Fuck, you track every shit.
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  Speaker 1: I've been tracking every shit. I just want to track
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  Speaker 1: how often I'm going and like what they're looking like.
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  Speaker 1: So I've written here, ready? On the 17th of the 10th,
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  Speaker 1: 2026 at 5.50am, I did a floater. Like why, why
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  Speaker 1: do you have to put up with family's bullshit just
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  Speaker 1: because they're family?
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  Speaker 2: Jake and Artie, the Relatable Party.
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  Speaker 1: Relatable.
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  Speaker 2: The Relatables podcast is hosted by myself, Artie Clark, a.k.a.
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  Speaker 1: My man.
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  Speaker 2: And my partner in crime, Mr. Jake Craig, a.k.a. Daddy Dingle.
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  Speaker 1: That's me, Daddy Dingle, full through and through. I've just
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  Speaker 1: owned it.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't see it, then the baddies came up with
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  Speaker 2: a good name for me.
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  Speaker 1: Really? What is it?
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  Speaker 2: Mummy Marketplace.
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  Speaker 1: That's hectic. that's actually hectic mummy marketplace is really good
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  Speaker 1: so we.
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  Speaker 2: Got daddy dingle and mummy marketplace and i'm like i
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  Speaker 2: saw it whoever commented sorry i didn't get your name
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  Speaker 2: that's a good name for me to.
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  Speaker 1: Be that is i'm a winner.
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  Speaker 2: I've got an addiction i'm gonna own it holy shit
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  Speaker 2: um i guess mm for short yeah and you're a
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  Speaker 2: dd mm dd Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just call me Double Ds. We'll do that in
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  Speaker 1: a live show.
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  Speaker 2: But today we wanted to start with kicking things off
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  Speaker 2: hot with the IG question of the week, which was,
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  Speaker 2: what's something you thought was normal because you dated someone toxic?
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  Speaker 2: Before we get into it, Jake, have you got anything
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  Speaker 2: that you thought was normal in your past relationships, realizing
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, I think one that I was
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  Speaker 1: convincing myself of is that love is hard.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a good one.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I used to think like, you know, love is hard.
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  Speaker 1: Cause I, I would question myself. I'm probably thinking back
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  Speaker 1: to probably my first relationship here and, and like near
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  Speaker 1: the end of my second where it's like, I just
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  Speaker 1: remember thinking, why is it so hard? Cause I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to give up. I thought love supposed to be hard.
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  Speaker 1: It's supposed to be, it's supposed to be hard, but
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  Speaker 1: it's just, it's just not guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I remember thinking that as well, actually. And it's like,
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  Speaker 2: it was hard work, but it really, really isn't now
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  Speaker 2: that we're properly in love.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's the thing. It's weird. Like, maybe it can be, like,
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  Speaker 1: it's not easy. Like, that's actually wrong. Like, it is
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  Speaker 1: actually quite easy. I don't know. I feel like when
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  Speaker 1: you really are in love, you don't think to yourself, like, fuck,
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  Speaker 1: this is grueling.
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  Speaker 2: I think there can be hard times and I hope
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  Speaker 2: there isn't, but I could see problems arising in the
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  Speaker 2: future that make things hard. But I think at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day, love should always prevail and be
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  Speaker 2: easy on the other side. Or you should always see
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  Speaker 2: the light at the end of the tunnel way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: All right, you want me to kick things off?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So what's something you thought was normal because you dated
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  Speaker 2: someone toxic? Not kissing goodbye or hello. He told me
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  Speaker 2: not to even when I tried.
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  Speaker 1: That's so weird.
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  Speaker 2: I remember being in a relationship, like the first relationship,
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  Speaker 2: and basically you thought anything goes because you didn't have
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  Speaker 2: anything to like go off.
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  Speaker 1: Especially if you date someone that's been in a relationship
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  Speaker 1: before you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you're on unfair terms, eh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's your first relationship and the person you're
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  Speaker 1: dating is their second or third, you're just like so
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  Speaker 1: susceptible to anything they say. You'll do anything they say.
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  Speaker 1: That's so, I feel like, I hope I would have
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  Speaker 1: noticed that's a red flag if that happened to me
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  Speaker 1: in the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: The feeling of rejection too? Far out.
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  Speaker 1: That's such a... Anyway, that's crazy. So what's something you
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  Speaker 1: thought was normal because you dated someone toxic? I thought
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  Speaker 1: I was asexual until I started dating my current partner. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: how does that work? She probably was with someone that
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  Speaker 1: she didn't want to have sex with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, shit. That one's heavy as fuck.
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  Speaker 1: Asexual means you don't like.
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  Speaker 2: You're not attracted to anything.
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  Speaker 1: You just don't want to have sex, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: I think so. Maybe you don't want to have sex
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  Speaker 2: with anyone. That might be what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like you don't... have any you just don't want
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  Speaker 1: to have sex you're asexual you don't like.
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  Speaker 2: Men or women you're a lone wolf in it hopefully
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  Speaker 2: some people can take it imagine anyone's listening and being
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  Speaker 2: like oh shit that's in my relationship and now.
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  Speaker 1: I know that's not normal someone's dating someone and they're
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  Speaker 1: like oh fuck i thought i was asexual too they've
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  Speaker 1: come out as asexual and this person they're dating is
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  Speaker 1: like just super understanding and and then you're thinking like
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  Speaker 1: oh wait those fantasies i have about people in the
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  Speaker 1: street those that means i'm not asexual interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine that that's fucked that's crazy not asking me to
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  Speaker 2: be their girlfriend just kind of assuming after a while
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  Speaker 2: yes very toxic very good i hate that one very
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  Speaker 2: good for noticing that one that is yeah here we
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  Speaker 2: go he would rip ass in front of my family
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  Speaker 2: to make them laugh it was not funny that is
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  Speaker 2: crazy imagine that I feel like it is kind of funny.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what's wrong with that.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that's actually not a bad one, but
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  Speaker 2: imagine being in a family setting and your boyfriend's just
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  Speaker 2: ripping ass.
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  Speaker 1: What if everyone laughs, though?
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  Speaker 2: I guess you've got to read the room, but also
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  Speaker 2: show a bit of respect. I don't think this is
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  Speaker 2: that bad. So you'd rip ass in front of best
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  Speaker 2: family at the dinner table?
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  Speaker 1: No, not at the dinner table. I'd do it in
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  Speaker 1: front of her family, though. Really? Especially if I did
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  Speaker 1: it once and they thought it was funny. If I
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  Speaker 1: did it once and they thought it was funny, I'd
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  Speaker 1: be like, oh, free fucking, let's go. Fuck, you and
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  Speaker 1: I are different breeds then, eh? I would never do that. So, like,
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  Speaker 1: if one slipped out in front of Cass's family and
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  Speaker 1: then they laughed, right? They think it's hilarious. You're telling
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  Speaker 1: me you wouldn't do it again?
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  Speaker 2: You're like a little three-year-old child who does something funny
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  Speaker 2: and is like, yeah, I'll do it again.
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  Speaker 1: No, I feel like it's bit disgusting this came across
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  Speaker 1: to me as if like they laugh they think it's
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  Speaker 1: funny farts are funny farts are hilarious bro i don't
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  Speaker 1: think that's toxic i reckon comment.
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  Speaker 2: Below baddies hey do you want your partner to be
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  Speaker 2: fart in front of your family if they think it's funny.
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  Speaker 1: But if they don't think it's funny then that is
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  Speaker 1: obviously like well no that's.
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  Speaker 2: Fucking crazy i feel like they might fart to make
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  Speaker 2: you feel better though laugh or fart what do you
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  Speaker 2: mean So imagine, I meant laugh.
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  Speaker 1: They answer with a fart.
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  Speaker 2: So make Jake feel normal.
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  Speaker 1: Just fart. No, fuck. If they think it's not funny,
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  Speaker 1: then like I would literally never fart again in front
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  Speaker 1: of them. But if they thought it was funny, I
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  Speaker 1: would fart in front of them. And if like Beth
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  Speaker 1: was like, that's gross. Probably make me want to do
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  Speaker 1: it more. I can see it though.
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  Speaker 2: I understand where you're coming from.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: What's something you thought was normal because you dated someone toxic?
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  Speaker 2: Paying everything 50-50 no matter the occasion or our incomes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Fuck. I just feel like it's such an effort
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  Speaker 1: to even go through and be like, okay, what do
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  Speaker 1: you owe me at the moment?
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  Speaker 2: It definitely should be like sort of even, but like dates.
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  Speaker 2: Just show a little bit of initiative and pay here
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  Speaker 2: and there. Don't ask for anything back or... Vice versa.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think it's weird to be
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  Speaker 1: going out on a date. Let's say he goes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's go on a date this Saturday. And then when
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  Speaker 1: you get there and the bill comes, maybe he pays it,
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  Speaker 1: but then he goes, oh, you owe me like $ 55.
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  Speaker 1: So icky, eh? Like what? You asked me on a date,
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  Speaker 1: you fucking weirdo. I hate it with friends too. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to lie to you. Actually, something funny I
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  Speaker 1: noticed the other day. You must have spent on the
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: Relatables bank account, like $ 16 on something. And because you
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  Speaker 1: transferred me, you transferred me money and it was half
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  Speaker 1: and it was eight bucks. And so whenever I get
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  Speaker 1: something from you and it says half, I know that
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  Speaker 1: you've just spent it on Relatables bank account so we
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  Speaker 1: can claim it, of course. And I saw it was
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  Speaker 1: eight bucks because I actually get excited whenever you do it.
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  Speaker 1: Because the notification comes up, I get excited because quite
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  Speaker 1: often it's about a hundred bucks. So I get like
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  Speaker 1: maybe 50 or maybe I'll be getting a hundred from
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  Speaker 1: you or whatever. Well, And so I get excited and
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  Speaker 1: I went on and it was $ 8. And I was like, fuck,
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe he went through the effort of even
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  Speaker 1: fucking transferring it.
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  Speaker 4: To me.
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  Speaker 2: Good to know. What's the threshold then?
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  Speaker 1: Mate, honestly, I reckon we actually should agree on a threshold.
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  Speaker 1: Anything $ 50 and under, I think we should not worry
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 1: Unless you've been taking the piss for a while and
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  Speaker 1: it's like you've had five $ 50 transactions in a row,
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  Speaker 1: then you can do a little lump sum if you want.
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  Speaker 1: But I just think if you're doing a one-off $ 16 thing, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe your card declined at Coles and
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  Speaker 1: you had to pay for your fucking $ 16 little bit
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  Speaker 1: of groceries you had to get. Like, don't transfer me $ 8, eh?
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  Speaker 2: I honestly think, I'm pretty sure that's what it was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just your card didn't work.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, there's money in our Westpac account.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I'll just pay that quickly. I would say.
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  Speaker 2: Avoid wasting any more time.
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  Speaker 1: And also, you know I'm not looking at statements, so
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  Speaker 1: I'll never find out. Yeah, shit.
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  Speaker 2: I feel, I have too much guilt though too. Oh
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  Speaker 2: my gosh, I have to transfer him like just to like,
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  Speaker 2: so it's off my mind.
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  Speaker 1: That's fair. To be honest, like I do it as well. And,
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  Speaker 1: but I can't think of a time when I've done
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  Speaker 1: maybe like as low as a $ 10 one on the business.
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: It is funny how we're like two friends and we
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: have a joint bank account and it does work quite well.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't had any quarrels about it ever.
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  Speaker 1: Nah, I mean, as far as I know, it's just
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  Speaker 1: fucking 50-50. Like, yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: What's something you thought was normal because you dated someone toxic?
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  Speaker 1: Them knowing my every move as well as knowing who
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  Speaker 1: I am around because I had to tell him.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I hate that. i that boils my blood it's
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  Speaker 2: just like so controlling yeah he's like a fucking stalker
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  Speaker 2: like let me live let me be my own person
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't you feel i would feel so weird.
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  Speaker 1: Constantly just checking beth's location.
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  Speaker 2: Oh 100 yeah i'd feel like but also it comes
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  Speaker 2: down to like the male insecurity and like he's not
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  Speaker 2: secure in himself that he's like scared that attractive man's
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  Speaker 2: gonna come along and then she's gonna take the bait
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  Speaker 2: because he's like ugly and insecure.
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  Speaker 1: You know it is really it's actually really i mean
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  Speaker 1: yeah if a guy needs to know your location or
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  Speaker 1: if he's like jealous that you've gone on a night
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  Speaker 1: out because there's gonna be and you know how people
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: always say the excuse of like i'm not i'm not
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  Speaker 1: worried about what you're gonna do i'm worried about like
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: other men yeah fuck off the only thing you should
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  Speaker 1: be worried about with other men is if they're gonna
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: fucking like literally sexually assault your girlfriend which would then
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: just be illegal and she had zero control over right
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: but if you because they're always like because they're like
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  Speaker 1: i trust you i trust you i just don't trust
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  Speaker 1: other guys and it's like well if you trust her
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  Speaker 1: if another guy comes up to her just trust she's
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  Speaker 1: gonna say nah sorry bruh like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah like at least turn away if he goes to
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  Speaker 2: like shove his tongue down her throat or something crazy
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  Speaker 2: literally even.
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  Speaker 1: If like if beth said to me some guy swooped
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  Speaker 1: up behind me and just kissed me i'd be like
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: are you gonna call the police like fuck that's insane
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: it was my fault for feeling sad which made him
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  Speaker 1: feel sad so I was in.
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  Speaker 2: The wrong oh that'd be way too common eh.
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  Speaker 1: I think that is common and I think I I
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  Speaker 1: used to have a version of this I used to
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  Speaker 1: be really like anxious attachment maybe or like just like
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  Speaker 1: yeah I think it's a type it's a way of
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  Speaker 1: loving or whatever anxious attachment where it would be like
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  Speaker 1: if the person I love is upset I would get
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  Speaker 1: anxious and have to fix it, which would then make
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: them feel like, well, if me getting, if me getting upset,
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  Speaker 1: it's just going to upset him. Why would I, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just not going to get upset. I'll just like hold
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  Speaker 1: it in, which is not healthy. No, it's not healthy
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  Speaker 1: at all.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I've done that in the past too.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's kind of like trying to force a solution.
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  Speaker 2: So you feel better.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A hundred percent. Yeah. It's like, I don't even care
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  Speaker 1: about you feeling better. It's like I do, but I'm
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: not going to feel better until you feel better, which
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: is even worse.
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  Speaker 2: So, let's just hop, skip and a jump to the
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  Speaker 2: solution without actually solving anything.
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  Speaker 1: So, like, let me fucking do something. Let me just,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, tell you it's going to be okay
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: and then it'll be okay. How dare you feel sad?
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: I know. All right.
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: I've got three back-to-back-to-back crazy ones, eh?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, go. Ready?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. What's something you thought was normal because you dated
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: someone toxic? Asking permission to wear a bikini.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fucked.
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  Speaker 2: No kissing outside of sex.
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: That's so weird. That's so weird. Imagine that. That's so weird.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: And then the worst one is that it's weird to
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: talk about your period.
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  Speaker 4: That's so fucking weird.
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  Speaker 1: He said to you that it's weird to talk. So wait,
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  Speaker 1: so you, this person, this, this poor woman thought that
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  Speaker 1: it was weird to talk about a period because who
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: she was with. said it's weird to talk about your period.
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  Speaker 2: I can see this scenario exactly happening. She's like, oh,
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: it's my time of the month.
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  Speaker 1: Like, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 2: My stomach's like really low. I'm on my period.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, yuck, blah. Like, what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: That's weird, eh? That's weird.
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  Speaker 2: Wait till that guy finds out you can have sex
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  Speaker 2: on your period.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, that's... Where does that come from? Like, the people...
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  Speaker 1: Because I actually... I would say there's a time in
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  Speaker 1: my life where I was like easily... super easy, influenceable,
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: but also in the way of like misogyny, right? But
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: even when I was in peak of what I would
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: consider myself as my most misogynistic, right? Yeah. Purely just
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  Speaker 1: because I wanted to fucking fit in. Yeah. I never
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  Speaker 1: once thought periods were gross. Because to be fair, I
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: always tried to be very, I did always try to
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  Speaker 1: be very respectful to my girlfriends and stuff, obviously. Like
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't, I think I just made myself out to
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  Speaker 1: be fucked. I wasn't fucked.
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  Speaker 2: But I've just never given a fuck about that. I
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  Speaker 2: think I haven't really given a fuck. I would say
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  Speaker 2: maybe in my, how do you phrase that? My most misogynistic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, your most misogynistic time.
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  Speaker 2: Phase of my life. I would say it was taboo
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  Speaker 2: to talk about periods. I never shamed anyone for having them.
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  Speaker 2: I think it comes from a place of not knowing
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  Speaker 2: anything about women's anatomy that they'd rather not talk about
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  Speaker 2: it or it's gross, I don't want to know about
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  Speaker 2: that than just understand how a woman's body works and
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: that's where it stems from.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's valid. I think that would be valid. What
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: is something you thought was normal because you dated someone toxic?
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: Being in constant fear of being broken up with.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, that would be relatable, hey? And you kind of
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: get addicted to like, it's almost a feeling of love.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: You're like, I want to keep hold of this love,
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  Speaker 2: this relationship that I've got, but I can't.
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  Speaker 1: Let it go. Buying my partner something to justify buying
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  Speaker 1: myself something. Ooh, that one's techie. That is very techie.
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  Speaker 1: So they make you feel guilty about, you know, what's
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: spoiling yourself. Trying to think. I don't think I do that.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: We do that in our relationship because we share the
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: same bank account.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: We do it the opposite though.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: If I buy something for $ 300, you get the equivalent
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: in cash. You're like, oh, I'll buy a pair of
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: shoes then.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: That's so true. We're just like fucking here on this
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: toxic shit. That was my last one. The last thing
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: I've got in, because I screenshotted those answers, the last
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: thing I've got in here is actually a screenshot of
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: the Bristol stool chart. You know what that is? No.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: I've been tracking my poops lately because I'm going to
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: do it for my naturopath. And the Bristol stool chart
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: is your poops can be either one to a seven.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: One and two is constipated. Three and four is healthy stool.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: And then five to seven is diarrhea. And what are
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: you on?
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: I haven't.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: I've always been five to seven. The last three days
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: at least, I've been anywhere from a five to a six.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I haven't been a seven yet, but I'm always a
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: five and a six.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Funnily enough, I saw the same naturopath and I found
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: out that if your poo sinks, it means you've got
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: good fiber. And she goes, what do you think yours are?
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I couldn't tell you. I've never thought
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: She said the same thing to me, right? Shout out
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Adore Naturopathy, Caitlin. She lives in Brisbane. You can do
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: it online if you want. But the... Look, this is
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: like the last, this is only three days and there's
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: like 15 poos on there. Fuck, you track every shit.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I've been tracking every shit. I just want to track
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: how often I'm going and like what they're looking like.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: So I've written here, ready? On the 17th of the 10th,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: 2026 at 5.50 AM, I did a floater and it
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: was a number six on the Bristol stool chart. Is
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: this on your notes? Yeah.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: All right, mate, business idea. I know we're not talking
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: about the bed divider today. You know how- Shouldn't use
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: this as an example because I think they're going corrupt
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: for selling everyone's information. You know the app Flow, how
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: women track their periods?
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: We should make an app that tracks your shits.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Genuinely thought about this and I went and looked up
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: apps and they exist. Not good though. But none of
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: them just straight off, you know, let's just talk, let's
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: just say thumbnail, right? Off the first look of each
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: one on the app store, none of them tickled my fancy.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: So I was like, fuck it. I'm going to go
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: in my notes. I just want it to be super easy.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go notes and then I'll probably chuck
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: it into maybe AI or something and just be like, oh,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: can you organize this for my naturopath, please?
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: To be fair, I'm 100% behind notes over different apps sometimes.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Is this the simplicity of it and dealing with it
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: later or forgetting about it?
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: So, so much easier. Look, I wrote here. Oh my God. Wait,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: on the 17th. One, two, three, four, five. On the 17th. Shit.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: And then I wrote, The fifth one was at 2.12 p.m.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: The other four were between 5.50 and 9 a.m.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: So, quick. Anyway, the last one was at 2.12 p.m. Wrote,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: thought that I needed to poop, but I did a
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: fart that had a bit extra coming along with it.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, mate, you should write a book about this stuff, hey?
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'd get a good gig about that.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, this is fucking... And then, like, sometimes I
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: forgot to check for the floaters or sinkers, so I
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: just wrote, didn't check, didn't check. Anyway. Yeah. Last few days, though.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I've had sinkers. I've had sinkers the last few days.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: My fiber's up, brother. Do you notice anything different about
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: us today, Baddies? If you're only listening. Yeah. I feel
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: like I look a little bit taller, maybe. That's what
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: it is. Oi. Our friend, Jai, right? Yeah. Did a
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: photo dump on Instagram.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: You need to stop out angling everyone you take photos with, eh?
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: This guy. So, you and I are at his house
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: going to visit him, his girlfriend, and their baby. And so,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: we all went. Beth and Cassie were there too. And so,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: then you, myself, and Jai take a photo with Arlo.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: And then Jai posted a part of this photo dump.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I look two inches taller than you, and I look
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: like a foot taller than Jai.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Gaffy looked tiny between us too, Jai.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: He looked so small.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I know that was so funny I remember we watched
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: a vlog back too though plug and I saw my
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: height comes out in video though.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: So I was like yes a bit more in video
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: it was a fisheye lens whoever took the photo of
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: us and I was kind of at the front I
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: did the same thing with Luke Bateman we were next
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you and I were both he was in between us
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: and we took a photo from a bit of a
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: lower angle we both look way taller than him fuck
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: we need to keep doing that eh we also look
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: we also look broader than him which we aren't Well,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: he played in the NRL. That's a good point. And
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: he told me the other day he swims like three
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: times a week.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't picture that.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I was like, mate, you're getting shoulders up, mate. But
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: all right, baddies. Sorry, you didn't even get a time
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: to answer our question. Do you notice anything different about us?
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: We're in different countries. Hell fucking yes, we are. So,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Odi's in Bali.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I'm in my favorite place, correct, in a brand new set.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: And hopefully you didn't notice at the start. But it's
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: actually a great set. It's all the same gear that
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: we have where Jake is. He's in Bali as well.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Hired it for, I'm here for about two and a half,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: three more weeks. So we've got a couple episodes virtually.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Hopefully it's nice and fun. And I think it should
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: be because the content and what we're doing in our
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: lives is so different. So it should just be a
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: bit loosey-goosey, something different for you. Funnily enough, you brought
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: up our friend at the start, Joy. I was chatting
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: to him the other day as well. And made me
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: have a bit of an epiphany. So he's just had
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: a child. And a lot of our old friends, I
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: wouldn't call them our friends anymore, haven't made the effort
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: to go see... Maybe I shouldn't... Should I use their names?
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Do you reckon it matters?
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can bleep them.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Let's talk shit about some blue.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: You can bleep them. So, yes.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: So, our friends just had a kid and our friends
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: haven't gone to go see them and make the effort
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: to see their child, right?
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: And he was voice messaging me about it. And he
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: was struggling to basically realize that they were shit blokes.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Because they're nice guys.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: So, all of our old friends are like really like,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: you could argue they're really nice people. Yeah. But then
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: a lot of their actions, which I think depicts a
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: lot of men as well, really make them, they don't
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: put any effort in. They're terrible at communicating. They don't
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: do anything. Make them shit blokes. But making that distinct
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: difference is hard for anyone because they're actually nice people.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Like just with surface level shit. Does that make sense?
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: It's just hard to accept.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: And then he's like, oh yeah, I don't know what
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: to do. I was like, bro, say something to him.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Like one of them like organized to hang out and
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: see his kid and then he just didn't reply to
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: him till the time.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, sorry, bro.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I can come in like an hour. I was like, mate,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: you got a fucking child. Go see your best, old
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: best mate.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Dude, it's actually, that is a tough one. I guess
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: it's like, so if our particular friend, so if our
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: friend that wants, that's struggling to maybe accept or something
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: that they're being shitty friends, if he wants to stay
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: friends with them, then I think that he has to
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: say something. He has to say like, That makes me
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: feel like shit.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: And then balls in their court.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: But those guys wouldn't do anything with that anyway. But
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: it's also, I feel like that's a massive depiction of
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of women in relationships. Like, surface level, these
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: guys are probably okay.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: They're nice. They mean well.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: But then when they get deepened down to the shit
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: that actually matters with, like, talking about their feelings, being there,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: being there emotionally to support their partner.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: They're just, like, not there, but making that distinct difference of, like,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: that is hard because they're sort of nice.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Fuck, bro. That's actually such a good point. Dang, I
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: feel bad for our friend.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, so do I. And I feel like predominantly like
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: most men fall into that category.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I wonder how he's feeling. I wouldn't mind actually asking him.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind talking to him about it because like
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I've been reading this book where it talks a lot
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: about patriarchy and stuff and it talks about how. And
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: we've spoken about this a bunch, right? Men literally can't
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: even begin to understand their feelings all that well. Yeah.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Unless it's, of course, silence or anger. We're just like
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: really good at them. And so he probably feels very
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: angry about it because like, that's just where, that's just
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: where it goes. Like I would be the same thinking
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: about it. Right. I feel angry for him.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: But like, I don't have to feel angry about that. It's,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: it's a valid thing to maybe feel angry about, but,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: but it's also like, you're just sad about it.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: And he's gone silent.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Which is, and I was talking, his partner was in
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: the background saying, I would say something, mate. Like, you've
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: got to say something. Like, that's not on. And I
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: told Cassie and she said, yeah, I'd say something too. Like,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: that wouldn't be on for my friends. And I think
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: you and I, like, our, I don't know, the versions
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: of ourselves we are now has been accelerated because of
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: this podcast and the exposure of the women behind us.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: And I think, like, because I was like, I'd fucking
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: say something. I was like, I'll say something in the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: group chat, but then they'll know you're talking shit to me. So,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a good thing to do.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: He was just going, so he's like, oh, I'll just
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: see what happens. And I was like, fair enough. Like,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: no one's going to force you to not talk to
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: someone if you don't want to.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: But no, at least you said you should say, like
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you said to him that he should say something. Like,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: here's the thing as well, right? So like, if like,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I would be the same as him toward those friends.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: True.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? If it was you, I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: would say something. Because I know that if I say something,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: our friendship's not over. Yes, exactly. But if it's them,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: there's about a 99% chance that if you say like,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: You guys have been shit blokes. And it makes me
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: feel like shit that you didn't, you know, no one
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: has even made the effort to come see my child.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: The first person in our friend group to have a child, right? Yeah.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Which is just such a valid thing to feel shit about.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I can guarantee you they would either not reply or
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: they would just give him an empty apology and still
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: not go see them. You know what I mean? I know.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: And then because they wouldn't be able to take like
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: what they would be taking that. Like, I don't even
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: know how to explain that. Well, basically the friendship would
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: be over is what I'm saying. It's because it's so
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: surface level. You know, if you said to someone that
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you don't know that well, I think you're being a
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: shit person, then they're going to be upset and take
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: offense to it. Instead of me saying to you, Odi,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I think you've been a shit person right now. You've
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: been a shit friend. You would be like, oh, fuck. Like, oh.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, they're not going to
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: take that and reflect on it and be like, oh,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I have been a shit friend. They're going to be like,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: they're going to double down and probably just ignore it. Yeah, 100%.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Because it is so surface level. They don't give a
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: fuck if they're friends or not with him. Let's be
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: so for real.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: And the way I've started to look at like the
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: friendships in my life and you just said like who
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I would say something to is if I wouldn't invite
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: them to my wedding, I probably I'm not going to
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: say anything, eh?
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: No, that's so, I think that's so bad.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Because I was talking to the same friend. I was like,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: all of them, they're not coming to my wedding. I
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: don't give a single fuck now.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I have zero reason to invite them to my wedding. Yeah, no. Same.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Even if I got married tomorrow. It's a bit sad.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: It's very sad to think of. But I was talking...
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Did I talk... I spoke about this with... I had
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: dinner with Luke the other day, right? I've said this
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: a couple of times. Just didn't even have to add Bateman.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Everyone just knows they're friends of Luke Bateman anyway. Yeah.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: But so I think I was telling you about it. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I saw you put like $ 500 on the card for
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: an apartment, a little hotel room after the dinner, after
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: your dinner with Luke Bateman.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Mate, that was my Uber home from Brizzy all the
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: way to Galway. Oh, right. And a few drinks.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: The amount you name dropped to Luke Bateman.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: That was my Uber home, right? The Uber was actually...
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Yuba was only a hundred bucks from Brisbane to Gold Coast,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: but he ended up charging me a hundred bucks every
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: time I mentioned Luke Bateman. Oh, fair value. No, no, sorry.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: He was charging me a dollar every time I mentioned
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Luke Bates. No, but he was talking about, so he
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: used to be engaged. Yes. And the woman he was
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: engaged to, they were planning the wedding, of course. She
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: had like six bridesmaids or something like that. And he goes,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: he said he just had to start asking people. He
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: just would never ask. I just don't have... Because when
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: you've got, you know, the bridesmaids and the groomsmen, they
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: walk down the aisle together. You know, they feed off.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: He did six as well, eh? So then you need...
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: So I was thinking, God, I hope Beth only has three.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: Because I'm fucking using Oddie.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I might have to call my dad up from the
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: old bench. And both my brothers are going to get
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: a call up from the bench. And also, I'll be
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: like this. You're not getting Joanna, Beth. Joanna's coming with me.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: She's going to be a groomsman. Well, I didn't think
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: about that.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I think me and Cassie are lucky enough that we're both...
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: We both don't have massive friendship groups.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Mate, I'll be happy. I'll go one each side. Yeah, 100%. Easy.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I'll be calling Henry up. Henry and Darcy, they'll be... Yeah,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: just do Henry and Darcy either side. My brother did
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Big Zero. I almost think it's a good idea to
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: do Big Zero, but here's the thing, right? Does your
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: brother have like a best friend?
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Tom Muller, head singer of the Moving Stills, mate.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Name dropping again over here, this guy. But I was
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: going to say, I feel like if I said, I'm
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: not going to do groomsmen and Beth's not going to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: do bridesmaids, it's just going to be us. I feel
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: as though it would be offensive to you. We've got
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: to do at least one each side just because we've
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: got to at least get them involved in the wedding.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: True.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to, I feel like we're going to
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: have so much pressure on ourselves for like the best
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: man speech too.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Cause like, Oh, these guys talk for a living. It's
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: going to be so good. Jesus Christ. Also, you know,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: it's so funny. Okay. When it's going to be harder
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: for me to do yours than for you to do mine.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Why is that? Because my family is all pretty close, right?
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Or quite close. And then they're also, they're all like,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: you know, senses of humor, but not that your family
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't have sense of humor, but, Like, it's just going
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: to be a bit more people. And so when you're
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: up there, they're just like, they're going to think you're hilarious, right?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: If you're trying to be funny, I don't know if
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: you will or not. It's always something that groomsmen seem
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: to do. But just because there's going to be so
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: much people, I think it's going to be easier for you.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: When I'm at yours, I know your mom, your dad,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: your brother. And I think I've maybe met Cassie's parents once.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Other than that, bro, I'm going to be talking to
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: people I've never met in my life. And also, you
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: barely talk to anyone that's probably going to get invited
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: to your wedding because they're only going to invite them
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: because they're close, close relatives that you don't hang out with.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Whereas I hang out with... I am close with my
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: extended family, so they're going to get inside jokes. They're
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: going to think it's funny. Whereas I'm going to say
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: something that you did back in the day and they're
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: just going to be like, oh, that's weird.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: The only thing that's working in your favor right now
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: is me and Cassie still want to do a Bali
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: wedding at this point.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Ah, yeah.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: So, it's going to cut a lot of those people
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: out just because they don't want to travel to Bali.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Dude, that's valid. That's valid. I honestly reckon.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: There'd be like 30 people at our wedding, eh?
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: No, that's good. I think that would be good, nice
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: and small. And on the topic of weddings, I was
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: actually not going to do this this episode. I just
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: saw it because I wanted to save it for an episode.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: But I have an M.I. the asshole that's to do
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: with weddings.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I love M.I.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: The assholes, eh?
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Alright. So, this is from our dilemmas thing. Like, this
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: is from one of the baddies. Oh, okay. Yeah, fully
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: from one of the baddies. Help. My older brother's wedding
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: is coming up in less than two months. Initially, I
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: RSVP'd that I would attend, although I've been having second thoughts.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: My older brother and I have a strained relationship. We
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: really only see each other at family gatherings or on birthdays.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I recently told my therapist that I was nervous about
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: attending because my estranged father... whom I haven't spoken to
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: in 11 years, will be there. I'm also concerned that
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: my brother, who is the only one of my siblings
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: who still has a relationship with my father, would expect
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: me to engage with him or potentially call me out
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: if I didn't speak to him or sit near him.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I recently messaged my brother and his fiance to confirm
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: that my boundaries regarding my father would be respected. His
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: fiance responded to me separately and said that it was fine.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: but my brother didn't respond. Instead, he sent out a
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: group wedding message saying that no family drama would be tolerated.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I messaged them back two and a half weeks later
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: saying that given the circumstances, I think it's best that
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I don't attend because I don't want to compromise my
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: comfort or add any stress to what should be a
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: happy occasion for them. I also apologize for changing my RSVP.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: So am I the asshole? Was I being unreasonable by
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: deciding not to attend or am I justified in protecting
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: my boundaries given the history with my father and my
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: concerns about how my brother might handle the situation.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Fuck.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards the side of like, protect your peace.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're a big asshole. I think everyone's
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: an asshole in this scenario, to be honest.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: A little bit, yeah.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I think everyone. So your brother for that message is
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: an asshole. Obviously, your stepfather or whatever is a fucking asshole.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: And then.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Just a tiny little bit of me thinks that like,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: because it's your brother. Hopefully, he's never going to get
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: married again. You should just swore that little bit of
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: discomfort for an hour, go to the ceremony and then leave.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: And say you've been there. Like that's... And then that
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: for me, not doing that makes you a tiny little
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: bit of an asshole. But then also, I do understand
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: where you're coming from. Protecting your peace. I.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: So, I actually get what you're saying. And I'm with
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: you on that. But recently, I saw something, right? I
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: don't know if it was... May have been you that
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: told me. May have been Beth that told me. I
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: can't even remember. Anywho. Like... So she's got, she has
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: no relationship with her father and she has practically no
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: relationship with her brother apart from family gatherings, right?
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: So she clearly doesn't get along with either of them.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: And if she didn't go to a family gathering, she'd
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: never see her brother. So it's like, you don't really
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: have a relationship with him either. My question is, why
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: is it that, let's just say you and I have
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: a massive falling out and we're currently best friends, but
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: we have a huge falling out. We could, it wouldn't
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: be easy, but like, We could never see each other
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: again and get along with our lives, right? Why is
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: it that you can't cut off a family member that
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: you just don't get along with? Just because they're blood.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Because like, let's just say I change. Like if I
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: change completely and I just turn into like this fucking
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: shit bloke, you're not just going to fucking be friends
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: with me still, especially after maybe trying to get me
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to go back to the way I was.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: It's a good hot take to be fair.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Like why do you have to put up with family's
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: bullshit just because they're family? I don't get that.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think my answer comes from a place
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: where like my family like has always shown love towards
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: me and I guess I've never not experienced love from
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: a sibling or my parents and like I really value,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: even though I probably don't say it enough, just having...
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: my family near me or that little bit of connection
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: and there's no other relationship you can compare to the
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: love you have with your family.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: It's unconditional.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've never had like an absolute shit sibling
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: or like a fucking, I don't know, something a really
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: bad mother or someone who like left me when I
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: was a child or something like that. I've never had
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: that and I could understand that cutting. It is weird
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: though because like you said, if a friend did something
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: terrible to you, like unforgivable, you could easily be like,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not fucking going to talk to Jake anymore. And
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: everyone would be like, what are you doing? And then
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: they'd be like, oh, that's so valid. But then if
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I said like, I'm never going to talk to my
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: brother again, he did this X, Y, and Z, I'd
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: be like, oh, I would second guess saying that to someone.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, why are we so forgiving to family members
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: that are such objectively bad people? When if we weren't
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: family with them, we would never, ever see them again.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: It's so weird, bro. Like, I'm trying to think of
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: people in my life... Like, and you get called selfish
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: or something like that. So, okay, random. Okay, I have
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: an uncle that is pretty racist, right?
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: And he like will repost racist things on Facebook.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: What?
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Heinous material. Heinous, bro. I have a cousin, right? That was.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Everyone was invited to a family event once this uncle
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: was going to be there. Right. And I have a
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: cousin that was like, nah, I'm not going. And everyone
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: was kind of like, and the reason she's not going
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: is because she's like, doesn't want to be around this uncle,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: which is like valid as fuck. If you really think
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: about it, like she's not racist. That's obviously terrible. And
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: he is objectively pretty fucking shit. So she's like, ah, no,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not going. And so, um, Yeah. Everyone kind of
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: was like talking a bit of shit about it. And
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I was like, in the end, Beth and I were
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: defending her. Like, wait, what are you guys on about? Like,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: what's the big deal? She doesn't have to like this guy.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: And also she shouldn't have to put herself in a
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: situation where she's around someone she doesn't like just to
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: hang out with family. Like she'll come here if he's
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: not here, but. You know what I mean? I was
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: kind of defending her. I started defending her.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, the only thing I would add to that is
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think you should just air him without saying anything.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I think you should say, I'm not going. I've told
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: so-and-so I think he's racist and I'm not going to
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: associate with that. So he knows what he's doing is wrong,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: not just let him go about his life thinking it's fine.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, true. It's like, say to him... The stuff
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: you repost is racist and I think that's terrible. See
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: what he says. And if he's like, fuck yeah, then
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, cut him off. Don't have a relationship
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: with him at all then.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just so he knows. Because did you see the
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: controversy that's going on with, fuck, that new activewear brand, Kakaiva?
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Kakaiva?
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Kaya Buckley or something her name is?
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, really? No, what's going on?
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: She was on live and her sister came home and said,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: what's up, a racial slur. And she was on live.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: And then this person who has like a massive active wear,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: she was going viral for like the past couple of weeks,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: opening new shops all across Australia or maybe Queensland and
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Sydney or whatever. And then she goes, whatever her name is,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I'm alive. Stop. Kind of like admitting that like that
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: must be a normal thing that they do in their family.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Totally unacceptable. So she didn't say to her like,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: that's the most unacceptable thing I've ever heard. Like, get out.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: She didn't call her out. She just said, wait, I'm
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: on live. Don't say that.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the reaction wasn't like, if you walked into a room,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, what the fuck?
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: What are you doing?
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: You know when it's just a normal reaction? Why the
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: fuck are you saying that? But you could tell it
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: was normalized in their family. And I think that's where
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of people just have those kind of, it's racism,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: but there's underlying sort of racist tones.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: There's just like- And people get away. I remember we
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: had a fucking friend when he got drunk and when
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: we were 89 and I wish I said something more.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: He just thought it was funny.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Wait, dude, no, we said stuff. Yeah. We did say
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: stuff to him and he wouldn't stop. And so I
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: think where we went wrong there was like, so it
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: was like we said stuff. To be fair, we probably
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: said it in a way where we're like, that's fucked,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: don't say that. We probably didn't say it as in like, no,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: that's genuinely uncomfortable. That's just fucking insane. You cannot say that.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: We probably didn't like explain to him why it's racist
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: because he's like, no. Anyway. So, but no, we said
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: stuff and we were all like, you can't fucking say that.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I do remember now.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I think I just hit my head because he kept
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: saying it that like, we just like let him get
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: away with it.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know. Like, I guess in a way
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: we let him get away with it because we stayed
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: friends with him. But fuck me. I remember saying stuff
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: and being like, bro, you got it. Jesus Christ.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there is a big common denominator with
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Australia where it's just this kind of like underlying tone
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: that's always there for some reason, which would make so
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: many people uncomfortable.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Well, think about, bro, remember like it might have been
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: two years ago now, maybe longer. Anyway, do you remember
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: that big, what was it? I don't think it's called
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: a referendum. Maybe it is. Anyway, there was this whole
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: thing we had to vote for where it was either
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: vote yes or vote no for the government to just
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: like run decisions by an Aboriginal representative party and it
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: was like vote yes if you think the government should
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: just include an Aboriginal party in making decisions and Or
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: a vote no if you don't think they should. Right? So, obviously,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: we all go vote yes. I'm thinking, obviously, this is
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: going to be passed. They're wasting money getting us to
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: go vote. Because it costs millions upon millions of dollars
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: to organize this whole thing to get people to vote, right?
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: And so, I'm just thinking, this is such a waste
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: of money. Everyone's going to vote yes. Bro, was I
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: fucking wrong? Comes out, everyone votes no. What year was this?
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: This was like two and a half years ago, bro.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: This is crazy. Like, Australia is so fucking racist. Yeah, shit.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I would even go, like, so is America. It's like
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: why Donald Trump's in office or whatever.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bro. America's racist. Like, oh, America's racist. Canada's racist. Like,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: they're all racist. We all are. We all, our ancestors
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: come in, took the land. Like, wigs me out how,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: you know, like, why are people like, oh, you know,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: we fucking, we give them shit back or whatever. Or
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: why are they still complaining? It's like, what are you
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: talking about? Or people go, I didn't take their land.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: It wasn't me that took it or whatever. And I'm
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: thinking like, yeah, but like, you don't have a brain
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: in your head, obviously. Like, yeah, obviously you don't have
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: a brain in your head to be saying that.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Anyway, just- That like, all these issues that we talk
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: about on the pod, like, The manosphere, like, the patriarchy, racism,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: or anything like that.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: And, like, I don't know how anyone thinks different to us.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? No, no, yeah, I agree.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I think it's... Like you said, like, they don't have
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: a brain between their heads. Like, what actually cognitively goes
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: through their brain? I can understand going for different, like,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: parties in, like, parliament and shit. I understand, like, you
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: could have your own thoughts about that because there's so
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: many different denominators. But when it's a black and white thing, like,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: you're racist or you're not.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Like, what do you mean? It's a great, great, great point.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I would say I'm the same. I'm just like, wait,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about? That's so, like you posted
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: a video about that Shane Gillis thing.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the comedian.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: And there was one comment, right? That fucking, I was like, what?
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: There was a few that I knew. So I posted
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: a TikTok and it was about the comedian saying, who
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: said women who go to the gym now dress like whores.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: And we got centered a fair bit on Relatables and
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: then also on the last episode, or we said it somewhere,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I was struggling to put into like a video that's
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: like informative, a way to like call out these shit men.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: So I did it and I showed Cassie beforehand and
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I said, I just like, I think this is a
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: great video, but I struggle to position myself when posting
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: a video like that. Just because I just, I don't
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: want to seem like I know everything, but I think
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: it needs to be said. So I posted it and then,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: There's like three or four comments like what.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Jake's about to say. There's more now. There's people calling
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: you like a snowflake and stuff. And someone said... Someone
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: comments on your post, bro, no, it was a jokey snowflake.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: And unfortunately, some women do dress like whores at the gym.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: It's not women empowerment for wearing next to nothing. Like...
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: But here's the one that sent me, right? Someone said...
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: This is fucked. I replied to this comment, by the way.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Someone said... Someone said, what a fucking performative... pussy fart retard.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Like i'm just i'm just reading the comment by the
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: way and then i replied to it do you mean
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: this as an insult question mark and i wanted to
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: see what they had to say but they haven't replied
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: to it yet.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Social media man is the funniest place because i saw
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: them too and i at the start i was thinking
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: about a little bit and i was like no i
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: know what i said was right but you click on
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: their profiles and they're like the most revolting like scariest-looking men,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: all their no-name profiles, and you're just like, this is
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: what happens on the internet, hey?
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: And, like, imagine, like, I'm posting a video about it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Imagine the women who go to the gym and have
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: creepy dudes like that actually fucking staring at them.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I know. It's insane. Actually, here's a funny one. So,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: someone commented, like, just basically disagreeing with you, right? And just, just, they...
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: they just try and insult you. And then we actually,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: we used to go to, we used to be in
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: the same friend group with this guy named Riley Matkovich. Yeah.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Shout out. He replied to this and he said, he said, well,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: you've changed my mind, exclamation point, being sarcastic. Yeah. Oh,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: fuck me.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: And I think like, going back to what I said,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of those comments and like, Luke
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: gets them all the time too. I've seen his comment sections.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: He's like, When you don't have any women in your
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: life or you've been a terrible man and you control
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: the women around you, our thoughts and thinking have been
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: accelerated because of this podcast and stuff. But I just
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: don't see how anyone can think what I'm saying is wrong.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Men do objectify women. They sexualize women. That's all they do.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: They look at them as just things they can have
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: sex with, which is the biggest problem in the whole world.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: They make women feel unsafe for walking on the fucking street.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: And I think what people are trying to say in
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: your comment section is like... What you're saying is that
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Shane Gillis, I don't care where in his joke it
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: was placed. I don't care if it was the punchline
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: or if he was making fun of himself or whatever.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. You're just saying that the fact he
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: needed to say that in his joke is just an
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: example of that. It's an example that men objectify women.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: It's an example of that, right? And they're trying to
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: say like, no, it's not. It's a joke. You fucking
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: pussy fart retard.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I wrote out what I was going to say in
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: that video. And I didn't touch on the fact that like,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I knew people would say it's a joke, take it
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: as a joke, but also like, it also highlights such a,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: such a bigger problem as in this guy is a
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: massive comedian. He hosts like some show in fucking America,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: three nights a week or some shit, some massive show.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: And all these young and impressionable men would look at
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: this guy and be like, he's made it in life. He's,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Hosts a TV show. He does all this. And now
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: he's just degrading women in his jokes. No wonder fucking
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: people in America are fucking raping women and not saying
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: anything about it. And they're doing it all over the world.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Like they look at these people how they depict women.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, people need to start standing up for
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: that shit more.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's like, here's my thinking is number one. Well,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: I've seen a bunch of comedians making videos having to
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: explain the joke, right? It's not a joke, but I
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: don't know. They're like, it was taken out of context.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: It was taken out of context. Or like, it's comedy.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: It's comedy. So number one, if you have to explain
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: a joke, it's not a good joke.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: It needs to be explained. Number two, punching down in
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: comedy is surely considered so lazy. That's just what I'm assuming. Oh, yeah.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: think like, just because something is quote unquote comedy doesn't
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: mean that you need to punch down to a, an
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: oppressed people. Yeah. You know what I mean? Even if
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: it's like a stereotype or, or in this situation, it
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: was calling a woman whores for what they were at
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: the gym. Like, I just think that if you need
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: to punch down, then are you that funny? You know
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: what I mean? I'm sure he is very funny and
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he can put a lot of thought into
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: making jokes about stuff that is actually funny, but, This
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: particular one just obviously didn't land. And everyone goes on
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: to say he was making fun of himself. Like he
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: was making fun of himself. And I haven't even gone
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: and watched the full thing, but it's just like, I
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: don't know. If he made a joke about rape and
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: he was making fun of himself in the end, would
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: you still think it's funny? Yeah, exactly.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: And it's a snowball. It's the start of a massive issue.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: And it's just because it's like just slightly not completely wrong.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: People think it's fine.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Like, fuck off. fuck off no it's it's it's absolutely
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: fucking insane.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: It's time for one of you to sign off the
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: episode and while i'm in bali baddies we're going to
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: do something different and this is your chance if you're
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: an international listener to get called by us on whatsapp
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: so the link will be in the description and we're
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: going to be calling someone from overseas let's do it
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: jake's going to be on the phone call as well
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: so Today, we're going.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: To be calling.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Jake, who are you going to call?
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Jessica. Shit, it's not working. Hello, is that Jessica? Hey,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I can hear you.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: How's it going?
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Good, how are you?
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Really, really good.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: We're having a couple of technical difficulties because I'm in Bali,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Jake's in Australia. Jake, are you there?
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I'm here. Jessica, can you hear me?
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can. Cross-continental phone call here.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: This might not be as good audio-wise, but do you
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: know why we're calling you today?
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: We're calling to see if you could sign off the episode.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: You can do it in any way you want. You
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: can give us a riddle. You can give us a quote,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: anything you live by.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: I had some notes. They're not super well thought out, but.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: There's been so much change happening in my life recently.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: So I've been living by this motto of life.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Is just for fun.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: So you may as well just make the scary decision
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: or do the thing that you've been thinking about doing
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: forever and just follow your heart. And the universe has
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: a plan. So it'll all work out.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: That might be the sweetest way to sign off an episode, Evway.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I absolutely love that. I'm going to start using that
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: in my life.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much for coming. Are you in
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Canada or America?
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: I'm in Canada.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Where in Canada are you?
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: I'm in Victoria.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we always get mixed up with Victoria, Australia.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I've still never been to Victoria.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, you have.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Have we?
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, Melbourne is in Victoria.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Shit, I was thinking... Where was I? I was thinking Adelaide, sorry.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: That's bad for me.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: That's funny.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much for signing off the episode, Jessica,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: and enjoy your night.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Bye.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: All right, baddies, thanks for listening.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: We love you. Stay bad.