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A Coffee with Terry Evans: Local Broadcasting Legend! · Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam

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Hi, I'm Terry Evans and you're listening to Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam.
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Well, good morning, everybody, and welcome to another edition of Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam.
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And we are coming to you live from the Wall, the Wall, the Wall Coffee Roasters, in the heart of beautiful downtown Acheson.
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And so if you hear some noise in the background, people talking, kids screaming, oh yeah, there's one, there's a little baby today.
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Coffee machines whirring in the background, it's because we're live at the coffee shop, Jennifer. Kinda awesome! And if you haven't been to the Wall Coffee roasters, you need to come.
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Absolutely.
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Check out their specials, their new drinks, all that kind of stuff.
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And it is spring, so they say.
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Well, that is spring in Alberta.
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Can you believe it?
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Like it's spring and we're going to get like 5 cm of snow today, 2 cm of snow tomorrow, but it's spring.
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So that's the good news.
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I'm very excited about our guest today because he's a legend.
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He is a legend.
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Anytime we have legends on the podcast makes me very happy.
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I'm very excited.
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And so, Jennifer, let's get started because I think this is going to be a good one.
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Cam, this individual has one of the most recognizable voices, I would say, in the city of Edmonton.
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Absolutely.
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So let's kick it off with none other than Mr.
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Terry Evans.
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Terry, welcome.
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Good morning.
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Good to have you.
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I'm very excited to be here.
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I'm also assuming that this coffee mug is for me.
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It is. Coffee In The Park With Jennifer And Cam If you notice on the bottom, we give these to all our guests.
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We sign them because we believe that in 10 years on Kijiji or whatever those market place, they'll be worth like a buck 50.
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So you'll be able to hock it at your next garage sale or something like that.
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Or they'll be at a thrift store and they'll say, oh, we'll look at it and say who scribbled on the bottom.
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If you're ever going through Goodwill or something like that, and you see our Coffee In The Park mugs, it's because our guests just chucked them.
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So yeah, but anyway, that's for you.
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So when you get up, we'll send you, are you a coffee drinker?
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I am.
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Okay.
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When you leave today, we'll send you home with some wall coffee, and you can drink wall coffee in your mug.
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In my Jennifer and Cam mug.
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That's right.
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Anyway, this is so awesome.
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It really is.
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We're going to get to the legend part in just a second.
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But we always start out here.
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So Jennifer, start where we always start.
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Okay.
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Terry, tell us, where did you grow up?
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Where were you born?
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Are you in Albertan or are you a transplant?
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I'm a BC boy.
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I was born in Victoria and then moved to the Kootenays.
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Well, actually, first to the Nakusp area and then to the Kootenays.
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Spent a lot of time growing up in Creston, BC, a little bit of time, three years in Vancouver, then back to Creston, then Prince George, then back to Creston, and then after I graduated from high school, I was Alberta bound.
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Right, so you finished high school and came to Alberta?
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Lethbridge.
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Lethbridge, you landed in Lethbridge.
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I did.
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I went to Lethbridge to go to Lethbridge Community College and take the Radio Arts program, but I had already worked at a radio station in Creston, BC when I was 15, so I got a job pretty quickly in Lethbridge and then didn't finish school.
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Well, I hung around for first year for the party, but I don't have a certificate or anything framed on my wall saying that I achieved scholastic greatness.
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Yeah, but you got the important courses in, so that's what counts.
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But you moved around in BC a lot.
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What did your parents do?
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My dad was a school teacher.
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My parents got divorced when I was young.
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I was four, my sister was one, so my mom and my sister and I were off to live with Uncle Louie and Auntie Jean in Windle, BC, and then Creston, just outside of Creston.
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Then my dad stuck around in the Kusp and that area around the Arrow Lakes.
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Then he was up to Prince George, remarried.
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My mom remarried and all kinds of, the life of a vagabond.
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Right.
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So you ended up in Lethbridge doing radio art.
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What do they call that?
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Communications, radio arts?
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Communications program.
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Yeah.
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Lethbridge.
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I was only there for three weeks before I got a job.
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Right.
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So thus the legend began in Lethbridge.
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In Lethbridge, I suppose, in 1983, 1982, but I started in 1980 in Creston.
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Did you always want to do radio?
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Did you always, was that something you always wanted to be into or?
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Well, when I was in grade 10 in Creston, BC, I figured, well, I'm going to graduate in a year and a half.
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I better figure out what I'm going to do when I get out of school.
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So I just walked up to the radio station in my hometown there in Creston, asked to talk to the owner and told them that I wanted to be a radio guy.
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And a month later, I was doing evenings at 15 years.
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That's awesome.
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That's really awesome.
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Yeah.
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And so you were doing the late night show or the overnight show or the...
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6 to 11.
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6 to 11.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's pretty good in Creston.
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Yeah.
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That's awesome.
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Before I had my driver's license, I was on the radio.
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Right on.
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That's great.
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And you went to Lethbridge, so you graduated.
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No.
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No.
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He left.
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That's right.
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You left for the party thing.
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Did you get a job offer right away?
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Did you?
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Yeah.
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Three weeks into university or into college, I got a job offer.
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So I was working.
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I was working four days a week at LA 107 in Lethbridge and still going to school.
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And then eventually I just quit school because I was.
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Because you were doing great.
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I was learning more at the radio station than at the college.
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Yeah.
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That's sometimes we're the best edu- hands on.
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That's how you learn.
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That's what it is.
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School is good.
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Not saying school is not good, but hands on is the best education you ever have.
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How long were you in Lethbridge?
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I left Lethbridge, 83 to 86 in Lethbridge, and then I came to Edmonton in 1986.
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All right.
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And did you join K-97?
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Was that the K-97?
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I came from Lethbridge where I was making $800 a month to K-97 in Edmonton where I was making $1200 a month.
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That's a huge job.
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You hit the jackpot.
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I didn't know what I was going to do with all that money.
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That's fantastic.
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$1200 a month in 1986.
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I know, right?
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I was pretty flushed.
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Any kids listening to this or young people listening to this are like, that's all?
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Though let me tell you, that was a lot of money.
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That was a good deal.
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Yeah.
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These days you can maybe fill your truck up with gas.
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Yeah, if you're lucky.
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That's right.
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So you came to K-97 and thus that is really, folks, where the legend began because you were, how many years, if you were?
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Four decades.
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Four decades, 40 years?
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So January of this year, 2026, was 40 years since I moved to Edmonton.
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Man, that's got to be some kind of record, I would think, in the Edmonton market for sure.
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Who would be, is there, with?
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I don't know anything.
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I mean, Jackie Rae was pretty close before she retired at CFCW.
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Yeah, yeah.
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She was 35.
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Right.
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Bryan Hall, of course.
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Yeah, Bryan Hall, yeah.
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He had the original morning show with Moses and it was Bryan Hall.
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Got the 10 commandments.
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It was breaking news.
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Moses in the morning with Bryan Hall in sports.
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So, Bryan Hall was, but yeah, you've got some other really notarized.
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I mean, names like Bruce Bowie.
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Well, yeah.
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But you would certainly be up there for sure.
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You would be in that.
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I'm going to call it the Hall of Fame because that's the Edmonton Hall of Fame.
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Thank you.
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Because that's pretty amazing.
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And you were loved and are well liked still.
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I mean, I'm not saying were because people still love you.
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Forty years at a radio station, that's cool.
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So when you came to K-97, where did you start out?
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Were you morning right away?
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Were you drive home?
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I was, I did, back then there was a time when radio stations had a full staff, like, you know, 12 to 14 announcers and you had swing announcers, weekend announcers, overnight announcers.
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I came first in 1986 to do 2 a.m.
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to 6 a.m.
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2 a.m.
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to 6 a.m.
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Yeah, and then I got a little bit of a promotion.
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I did 10 p.m.
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to 2 a.m.
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You know, I was doing 2 a.m.
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to 6 a.m., but I would stick around and I would write for the morning show.
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I would write stuff for Phillips and Allen.
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Oh, okay, write coffee and stuff.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And after about 3 months, Brad Phillips jumped ship and went over to Ched.
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So Robin Allen was there by himself and Neil Edwards, our program director at the time, said, hey, we'll try out for a week in the mornings and see how it goes.
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That lasted 3 months.
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I got some great experience before they brought in a guy.
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And I went back to evening 6 to 10 p.m.
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So for everyone who's listening, and we know a lot of our listeners are here in Alberta, the Edmonton area, but we have listeners all over the world.
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So K97 was, I would say, for many years, sort of the premier rock station in Edmonton.
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I would say it is, absolutely.
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And 630 Ched, they were also very prominent.
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They were a music station before.
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Then AM, FM kind of separated a little bit in terms of music and talk and all of those kinds of things.
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But K97 stayed as, in my opinion anyway, the premier rock station.
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Yeah, but it's the heritage.
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Yeah, the heritage, yeah.
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So that early morning shift, that all-nighter shift, like that's, I find that you need A, how did you stay awake and B, unique listeners that early in the morning or that throughout the night.
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I would think.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you just shift your hours.
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Anybody who works eight, you know, eight to five.
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Yeah.
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That's your day.
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So you get up at six, you go to work for eight, you're home at five, you go to bed at nine thirty, eleven o'clock, whatever it is.
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It's just, you know, if you're working two in the morning till six, then, you know, I'm there two hours early, so that's midnight, and I'm there two hours later, that's eight.
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Right.
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So that's my eight hours, and just my day was backwards.
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Where was the original K-97 studio?
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It wasn't always in the mall, was it?
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No, there was, when I came in 1986, it was located on 102nd Avenue and 108th Street.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah.
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Downtown.
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Yeah.
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And then you moved to?
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Then it was through a number of different ownership companies.
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It ended up down at 99th Street and 51st Avenue.
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And then when that happened, I was actually, so I was at K-97 from 1986 to 1992.
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Okay.
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And then I left and I was part of the team that signed on The Bear.
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So I was at The Bear from 1992 to 1997, five years.
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The Bear, I remember, yeah.
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Also a rock station in Edmonton.
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Okay.
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And then in 1997, when I got fired, I got rehired at K-97.
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Do you want to talk about the fire?
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Yeah, I want to know why.
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Well, it's just, you know, some people, it's no different than, you know, a coach of an NHL hockey team.
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He likes to bring in his own assistant coaches and stuff.
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And we had a new program director and we, you know, his direction didn't align with my direction.
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Right, sure.
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And he had a hard time dealing with me, so.
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That's always, we've had a lot of media people on and they've always talked about that, the changes, when they kind of walked in and said, you're done.
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They're doing great, they're doing really good.
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And then they just tell them, you're done.
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And that's like you say, it's like a hockey coach or a player, you might be doing fine, but you're done.
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That's it, on to the next.
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But K-97 hired you back.
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So you went back to K-97?
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Yes.
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So K-97, 86 to 92, the Bear 92 to 97, back to K-97 from 97 to 06.
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Then I started up a transport company in 06 and did that.
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Spent a lot of time in Acheson, North American.
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Really?
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Transport meaning?
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Yeah, I had a couple of trucks and trailers and a big...
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Really?
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Yeah, I did all kinds of oil field hauling and whatnot.
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Really?
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And then in 2007, K-97 phoned me and hired me again.
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So I was there from 2007 until this year, so another 19 years.
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I had no idea you were a truck driver, owner, guy.
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Yeah, that's pretty cool.
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And so why that switch?
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What was it? Were you just done with radio at that point?
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There was a combination of things that just we decided to start up a transport company.
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And have your own business, have a little more control of what you deal with and whatnot.
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But that's quite a switch from radio to trucks.
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You listen to the radio in the trucks, but yeah, and you did that for a couple of years?
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From September of 2006 to September of 2007, and then I carried on with the company, had other drivers driving for me until eventually it just became to much.
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That's pretty cool.
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I can hardly wait to tell all our truck driver friends about this, because I think that's really cool.
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Well, there will be a lot of people, there might be a lot of people listening who remember or know from...
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Tamara?
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Do you know what's going on?
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It's possible.
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Yeah.
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You probably know Tamara's dad.
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Probably.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's cool.
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All right.
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So you're back.
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Now you're back at you're back at K-97 and you wanted to go back or they wanted you back.
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You wanted to go back.
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And did you think this is it?
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This is long term.
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This is till the end.
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Or how does that work?
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Well, I mean, yeah, it was 2007.
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So yeah, it was long term.
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Yeah, it wasn't really any defined end in sight.
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But in January of this year was decided that it was time to split.
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When you went back, were you on mornings or yeah, you're back in the morning.
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Well, let me see.
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2000.
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Yeah.
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In 97, when I got hired back, I started out in afternoons and then went to mornings.
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But when I got in 07, yeah, I went straight back into mornings.
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Right.
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So I think that's cool.
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That's really cool.
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It is.
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So as a DJ in the city of Edmonton, as one of the premier music stations, rock stations in the city, you've probably met some unbelievable people.
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You've probably met them all.
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Who all of you had chance to sit down and interview or talk with or meet or who left the biggest impression on you?
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Like who was the?
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Maybe who left the worst impression.
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Yeah, who left the worst impression on you.
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There's got to be somebody.
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Well, maybe you don't want to say that.
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Yeah, you run into unique and varying personalities and individuals.
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Well, musicians are unique people.
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Yes, they are.
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Artists are artists.
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All around, kind of, just yeah.
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Trying to remember all of the people that I've met.
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I made the mistake of never taking pictures.
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I have very few pictures of some of the people that I met, you know, like Eddie Van Halen.
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Right.
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And, you know, I've got a picture of me in a group of people with David Bowie, which is really something that I thought, wow, I can't believe I actually still have that.
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No kidding.
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But the other nice thing is some of the friendships that I've been able to develop and maintain over the course of the years with some of these people whose music I've been playing since it was new and now that it's.
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But you know, going back to the picture thing for a minute, because I like you, I've had the opportunity to meet some pretty incredible people in my life, but it was all pre iPhone, pre, you know, where you could just nowadays, we just snap a picture and that's what it was.
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And sometimes it just wasn't either a lot of photographers around or it took a little extra to get the camera out, take the picture, get the picture developed and put it up.
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So you miss out on some of those.
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But but still, nonetheless, you have the chance to meet them.
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And and then along come social media and you're able to do that a little bit more, which is really cool.
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So yeah, you meet the David Bowies of this world and those people.
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But the very fact that you met him is pretty cool and that you've developed relationships with some of those people.
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That's even better.
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Yeah.
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So yeah.
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Who is, who is the, who is the most frustrating?
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Who is the most?
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Well, you don't have to say it, I guess.
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But who who is the one that you just thought, oh, boy.
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Well, there's one, there's one that kind of sticks out.
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It's just because I asked him a question and he didn't really think it was.
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It was actually it was a guy who was just recently playing live here.
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He's still out touring and he had an opportunity.
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I'm not going to say his name, but he had an opportunity to play professional baseball.
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So I just asked him, I said, yeah, you know, what would have happened?
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What do you think it would have been like if you'd have taken a left turn at Albuquerque and started, you know, if it went down the baseball road as opposed to your guitar and your band and that sort of thing.
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And I don't know why that question rubbed him the wrong way.
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He just didn't like it.
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Didn't like it, eh?
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So it was just a little bizarre.
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We ended up cutting that interview a little shorter, seven or eight minutes because either I was- The tension was in the room was a little much.
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Yeah.
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Thanks for taking the time.
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Either I was asking stupid questions or he was just being non-receptive.
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But pretty cool.
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And I would say for most people who don't know, Edmontonians know, Edmonton is a hot music center.
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We get all the big names here for the most part.
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We get, I mean, Edmonton is a happening place musically.
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Well, aside from having big names come here, and part of the reason is because of the infrastructure that they've got, with Roger's Place, it's more receptive to some of the gearing, some of the stuff that happens with the touring bands and whatnot.
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Things are able to hang from the roof, but they can't hang from the roof and from the ceiling in Calgary because of the saddle dome.
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But that's all going to change with the new building going in there.
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But I think the most, the more important thing to talk about is, yeah, you get the big groups, big names coming through.
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ACDC will play the Commonwealth Stadium, Pink Floyd and U2 and Metallica and all that.
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But I think the most important thing is the fact that Edmonton has got an incredibly vibrant live music scene for local musicians, which is so supportive and I've been so lucky to be a part of it and closely connected to it for so many years.
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I was listening to your 40th anniversary show.
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I listened to that.
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What came out on that, that really impressed me was your involvement with young musicians, getting young musicians engaged.
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Let's talk about that because that's so important.
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When they're young, where do they go?
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Where's their outlet to be involved?
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I thought what you're doing there was pretty cool.
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It started with Greg Pretty, who has a couple of kids, Luke and Tess, who are incredible musicians.
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I carried on with Carson Cole with his kids, who he had his sons in his band for the longest time.
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And then my son is professional drummer as well.
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The thing about it is there was a time where kids, young kids could go in who were trying to learn music.
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They could go into a AAA class, a bar, and go up on stage and go to jams, perform and what not.
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Well, there was some government mishegoss that happened where finally the government, the provincial government said okay, because somebody complained.
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There was a young kid that was up on stage and then there was somebody who was a busboy or bussing tables or something.
22:31
And there was some talk of underage workers.
22:37
So there was an accusation of taking advantage of that situation.
22:42
The government at the time said okay, that's it, nobody underage in a bar, nothing.
22:47
So what that did was that prevented underage performers from going in, sharing the experiences and sharing the experience of older musicians who were willing to share the stage time at jams and that sort of thing.
23:01
Because I honestly think if you can get 15 or 30 minutes on stage in front of people, that's worth three months of playing in your garage.
23:10
That's education right there, yeah, you're right.
23:12
So they changed the law so that there was no underage performers allowed in any bars.
23:19
And what that did was that took away the vocation, the profession of some underage performers that were already plying their trade.
23:29
So, Greg Pretty started it, rest in peace, Greg, we lost Greg just last year.
23:36
Carson Cole carried it on and then as his kids got older and got, you know, over the age of 18, and then I kind of took it over and started working with government, David Shepard and the NDP government and the conservative governments at the time to try and get things changed so that underage kids could go in there.
23:55
And it's not like kids were gonna go in and sit at a table and start drinking or anything like that. They were just there to perform.
24:00
And they were with an adult, they were with an adult.
24:01
They go in with their parents, they wait for their turn, they go up on stage, they perform their three songs, they get their experience, they get the shared experience from the older musicians and then away they're gone.
24:13
And it ended up helping my son.
24:16
Mind you, I was the father of the year, I smuggled my son into so many bars when he was, from the age of 14 to 18, I can't tell you how many times he had.
24:26
Bring him in the back door, eh?
24:27
Like sneak him up on stage.
24:29
Well, he's a drummer, sitting on his throne, he'd look taller if he needed to look taller. You'd never know.
24:35
Well, that's, and I would say, just get up on stage and sit down behind your drum kit and don't say anything.
24:40
Yeah.
24:41
So, that's really great.
24:44
And good for you, I mean, just more so even to be active in trying to change government and regulation on that, because sometimes government makes, we all know some pretty stupid rules, and that was just a stupid rule.
24:57
And so, yeah, so that was changed.
25:00
Now, they can do that, and that'd be okay to do now.
25:02
It's...
25:03
Yeah.
25:03
And by the time it had changed, my son had already turned 18, so he was off.
25:07
So it was the better part of six years that we were working on that, and the previous years with Greg and Carson before that.
25:14
But then there were still so many young musicians that were being able to...
25:21
Haley Benedict is a perfect example, and so many other younger musicians.
25:26
But the problem about it was, was the kids...
25:30
I could take my son to Lloydminster, and we could go on the Saskatchewan site.
25:34
He could sit in a bar and play music all day.
25:36
But not here.
25:36
But not in Alberta.
25:38
I could take him to Valemont in BC.
25:40
My kid could go into a sit-in-a-bar and wait for his turn and sit there and then play drums all day during a Sunday or Saturday afternoon jam, but in Alberta they couldn't.
25:49
Yeah, that's why I say some rules are just stupid.
25:51
They make no sense whatsoever and they're reactionary laws that were made out of stupidity more than anything else, but good on you for doing that.
25:59
And it probably changed a lot of lives, but more than that gave a lot of kids an opportunity.
26:06
Yeah, because where else do they get to play?
26:08
In their basement.
26:08
In their basement.
26:09
The garage, the basement, maybe at a high school dance every now and then, but these are the venues that teach them, along with adults and people, and that's where they gain experience.
26:19
The very supportive scene.
26:20
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
26:22
So that's still going today, you're still working with those or?
26:27
There's nothing I like more than going out and watching live music and seeing people do their thing.
26:32
Yeah, I think that's cool.
26:34
And again, I think Edmonton is a good live music scene.
26:37
It's hot.
26:39
Best places to watch live music in Edmonton are?
26:43
Wherever they have a stage and have live music, honestly, you can't, I mean, you know, obviously it depends on what kind of music you like, but there are places, everything from Cook County Saloon to Temple at the Starlight Room, where you're going to see a wide variety of different styles and genres.
27:01
I was at Temple Room last week, and I was at the Cook County Saloon not long ago.
27:07
And you're like, you know, you just go and see who you're going to see.
27:10
Let me ask you this because, and I'll get a roundabout in this, the school system itself, because of budgets and budget cuts and all of those kinds of things, a lot of schools don't even have music programs anymore.
27:22
Kids, they pick up a guitar or sit at a drum kit here and there.
27:26
Are you finding kids today not as active or involved in music, or is there still that desire in kids?
27:35
They want to be in a band, they want to play guitar, they want to play drums, they like...
27:40
Well, my kids are now 28 and 25.
27:43
I guess my daughter is going to be 26 this year.
27:46
So I'm kind of away from seeing what happens in schools.
27:52
I don't have that proximity to it because I don't have kids that are of that age.
27:56
So, I mean, it would be weird if I still hung out in high schools.
28:02
Well, I guess I don't keep up on the curriculum of what's going on at different schools, whether it's Catholic or public or private or whatever.
28:13
I just think like when I was a kid, I was a drummer and I had band in school and played drums.
28:18
But nowadays, I don't know.
28:21
I don't know if it makes me sad that maybe more and more kids aren't getting involved in music, aren't playing guitar, aren't playing drums, aren't getting into a band, aren't doing that kind of stuff.
28:33
Their attention is other places, but I think it stems from school promoting music and things like that, and getting kids going.
28:40
I think we're losing out if that's happening.
28:42
Yeah.
28:44
You look at the kids that are involved.
28:46
I mean, when I was going to school, high school and graduating in 1982, anybody who was in band, they're kind of dorky, dweeby, and everybody kind of, didn't make fun of them, but they were band kids.
29:02
Yeah, they were the band kids.
29:05
That didn't change right up until my son when he graduated in 2015.
29:10
But the thing is, all of the so-called cool kids when they were in school, because they were sports stars or whatever, my son's played Coachella, and my son's played Lollapalooza India.
29:22
Really?
29:22
My son has played drums in front of 70,000 people.
29:25
Come on.
29:26
I don't know where these football jocks.
29:29
Yeah, they're sitting behind a desk downtown somewhere.
29:32
They're a CPA.
29:33
Yeah, I've got the question then.
29:36
Your son played these amazing venues, these amazing outdoor festivals.
29:41
Obviously, you went.
29:43
Did you watch?
29:44
I didn't go to Coachella or Lollapalooza India, but I saw my son play at the Saddle Dome in Calgary.
29:51
I've seen him play in all kinds of...
29:54
I've seen him play from everywhere from quonsets, just out in between St.
30:00
Albert and Villeneuve.
30:02
He's played at quonsets, all the way up to the Coca-Cola Arena in Dubai.
30:09
So what band is he with, then?
30:12
He plays drums for a Punjabi hip-hop superstar named AP Dhillon.
30:18
He's one of the top.
30:20
You've got Diljit Dossange, AP Dhillon.
30:23
He's been here, right?
30:25
AP?
30:25
AP.
30:26
Diljit has been here.
30:27
AP has not been in Edmonton.
30:29
Oh, okay.
30:29
But he's played Calgary, Vancouver.
30:33
I think my Facebook ads popped up somewhere about that.
30:36
That's really cool.
30:38
So is he living here still, your son?
30:40
My son lives in Edmonton.
30:41
Lives in Edmonton, yeah.
30:42
That's amazing.
30:43
So I think I'd be pretty proud of that if my son did that.
30:46
I don't have a son, but if they did that, and I'd be proud of them whatever they did, but that's cool.
30:51
That's really cool.
30:52
Yeah, I think he's, what is it today?
30:53
I think he's going to, he plays this weekend in India.
30:58
He's off to India tomorrow.
30:59
Wow.
31:00
That's amazing.
31:01
See, that's the stuff I just, yeah.
31:03
There's segments of our society that because of technology and all those kinds of things, we've moved away from some other areas.
31:10
Music to me, I heard somebody say it last night.
31:12
I was watching a show that music is really still needs to be the fiber and backbone of our society.
31:19
Because all kinds of music, no matter what it is, it really is the thing that really moves people, stirs people, brings them together, gives them purpose.
31:27
It really is key.
31:28
The one thing that everyone on the planet has in common is a heartbeat.
31:33
Yeah.
31:35
And it doesn't matter if you live in Nepal or Los Angeles or Stony Plain or wherever, Rio De Janeiro.
31:46
Yeah.
31:46
Everybody on the planet has a heartbeat.
31:49
Yeah.
31:49
And when a heartbeat is rhythm, and rhythm starts with a kick drum, and from there it can go anywhere.
31:57
Music is a universal language.
31:58
Any style of music.
31:59
It's a universal language.
32:01
It doesn't matter what the spoken word language is, but the rhythm is there, and if it hits something, that's a reason.
32:08
It's universal.
32:09
It really is.
32:10
And it's amazing because, and I know this is going to sound real cheesy.
32:13
This is going to be a cheesy podcast statement, but nations have put down arms over music.
32:20
Music has allowed nations to put down arms.
32:23
Then the music stops and they go back to fighting, but there's a lesson in that, and I think that's why I think it's really important that kids, it disturbs me when I hear our school budgets are taking away band, class and those kinds of things, because they may not go on to play in a band.
32:39
They may not go on to be a professional musician, but it's important.
32:43
I think what it instills in them is really key, really important.
32:47
Do you want to take it one step further?
32:48
Yeah.
32:51
A lot of times when somebody shows an interest, whether they're six, seven, eight, 12 years old, a lot of times when a kid shows an interest in a musical instrument, yeah, and then they get proficient at it, they get good at it.
33:01
Yeah.
33:02
Then parents will say, oh, that's great, you know, Bobby or Sally.
33:06
I know where this is going, yeah.
33:07
I know where this is going.
33:09
By the way, if your daughter has an interest in playing the bass, encourage her because the world needs more bass players who happen to be women.
33:20
Yes.
33:20
But what happens is they get to the age of 14, 15, 16 years old and they're noodling on their guitar, spending a lot of time in their bedroom and whatnot, and then the parents say, well, you better have something to fall back on.
33:34
That's right.
33:36
So what happens is they have a dream of playing guitar or singing or doing whatever, but then they're only allowed or permitted to spend 20 or 25 percent of their time on their dream, and then they have to spend 75 percent of their time on their fall back.
33:54
That's right.
33:55
So what we did with my son, he was 14 years old.
33:59
I said, what do you think and what do you want to do?
34:00
He goes, I want to be a drummer.
34:02
I said, okay, we'll do whatever we can to support you 100 percent.
34:06
I said, but I'm not going to tell you to have something to fall back on.
34:11
Because you're 14 now and you want to be a drummer, we'll support you.
34:15
In 10 years when you're 24, when you are either making it as a musician or you're not and you have to find a job, then it's going to be your decision, not mine.
34:26
You're going to have to figure out what you're doing at 24 because you'll be a man.
34:30
Right now, we will support you 100% on your dream.
34:34
That's a great lesson.
34:35
Instead of 25 and then spending 75% of your time on...
34:39
Yeah, I love that.
34:41
And not just for music, for other aspects, and even sports.
34:44
For sure, just everything.
34:45
The other day I saw a clip of Robin Williams when he won an Oscar and he stood up and his dad had gone on to heaven and he looked up and he said, I want to thank my dad who always told me I needed to fall back and I should be a welder, but told me no, be a comedian first and then go to be a welder.
35:01
And he said, that's what kept me on going to be a comedian because my dad told me, be a comedian first and then that doesn't work out, go be a welder or whatever.
35:08
But I like what you just said.
35:10
Support them, stand behind them.
35:12
Yeah, I think that's cool.
35:13
We need that.
35:14
Get away from the screen, get on to the drums.
35:18
That's what I'm saying.
35:19
I know.
35:20
And so now, Terry, now that you are off the radio, we were talking about it a little bit before we started this.
35:27
This podcast that not only are you doing one podcast, you're doing multiple podcasts.
35:35
So tell us a little bit about this.
35:38
For 12 years, I got a really trusted friend.
35:41
It used to be my general manager when I worked at The Bear, Marty Forbes.
35:44
Marty's been telling me for 12 years that I needed to start doing a podcast.
35:48
Right.
35:49
I said, why?
35:50
I do a morning radio show every day.
35:52
Isn't that the same or better than or why do I need to do a podcast?
35:58
So finally, a year and a half ago, I acquiesced and Marty just talked about how adding the digital aspect of podcasting to radio gives you a two-pronged attack sort of thing.
36:12
So you can have the terrestrial radio thing going, but you can also have a digital impact.
36:18
And when you combine those two, there's an opportunity to generate revenue.
36:22
There's an opportunity to have part of it.
36:26
You can take a five-minute clip and play it on your radio show and then say, hey, if you want to listen to the whole thing, go to whateverpodcast.com and then you can listen to the rest of the thing.
36:36
So finally, in September of 2024, Marty took me for lunch and said, you've got to start a podcast.
36:43
So I started a podcast and I called it Reluctantly because I didn't really want to start a podcast.
36:49
We know that feeling.
36:50
Well, yeah.
36:51
Well, I'll be damned if I started doing it.
36:54
And after doing the first five or six episodes, I was really enjoying it, the long form aspect of it.
37:00
So I've started with people like Mike Plume, David Gogo, Clayton Bellamy from The Road Hammers, Tom Cochran, Brian Johnson from ACDC, Haley Benedict, and doing the things that I knew, interviewing some musicians and artists.
37:16
And then I also have weirdos, wackos, nut bars, TV stars, sports personalities, and all kinds of stuff.
37:22
So it ended up...
37:23
I love it.
37:24
I just love it.
37:26
I was quite enjoying it and learning more and more about it, the technical aspect of it, all the computer business and so on.
37:33
And then all of a sudden, because my daughter is a high-end cocktail bartender, I got interested in distilleries.
37:41
So I went down the distillery discovery sort of thing.
37:43
So I have a quasi-podcast called Distillery Discovery as well.
37:47
Come on! That the Alberta Cocktail Festival, the Spirits and Cocktail Festival kind of helped me with that so I could interview some people, but that's still kind of on the back burner for now.
37:59
Right, yeah.
38:00
But what happened was my Reluctantly podcast eventually turned into a Moving Day podcast as well with Art New from Trestle Creek Golf Course talking about Moving Day on the week, on the Saturdays of the major golf tournaments.
38:15
Right, right.
38:15
So there was a golf podcast, there was a whiskey podcast, there was a thing.
38:20
And then I messaged my investment advisor and said, hey Patrick, would you like to do a podcast?
38:27
Because I'd love to be a guest on your podcast.
38:29
And I said, no, would you like to do a podcast?
38:33
I said, I'm one of your clients and I only hear from you once every six months.
38:38
How would you like to have more contact with your clients through a podcast?
38:42
You could have a weekly podcast and send it out to everybody who's interested.
38:46
So now I have an investment podcast.
38:51
And then when Jackie Rae retired from CFCW, she does a lot of travel.
38:57
And I've also done some travel with Rick McSwain from Network Travel.
39:00
So I started up the Zone One podcast.
39:03
Now we have a travel podcast.
39:05
So I have reluctantlypodcast.com, zoneonepodcast.com, The Wealth Roundup, Distillery Discovery.
39:15
The Moving Day Golf Podcast is morphing into what I'm going to call this spring, the Alberta Golf Podcast.
39:22
And then I'm working with another company that wants to do a podcast that's basically for her company website, insurance company, that is still in development.
39:34
But basically, me not wanting to do a podcast has turned into a media empire. Multiple.
39:39
Yeah.
39:40
So you haven't retired?
39:42
No, I'm actually busier.
39:44
Yeah.
39:46
That's amazing.
39:47
And then I still have all my...
39:48
See?
39:49
I don't know what to tell you.
39:51
I know.
39:51
Yeah.
39:52
And then I still have all my personal services stuff, Emcee, public speaking.
39:57
So you're busy.
39:58
Voice over and...
39:59
Wow.
39:59
That's incredible.
40:01
So let me ask, the last day on the air for you, that last day.
40:05
Was that obviously a tough day?
40:08
Yeah.
40:09
Yeah.
40:09
It was...
40:10
I mean...
40:12
Did it happen at the right time?
40:13
Did it come sooner than you thought?
40:15
It came a little sooner than I figured.
40:16
But yeah, the thing about it is, is when you're in a market for 40 years, even with going three different stints at K97 and a stint at The Bear.
40:29
The relationship you end up developing with the people in the city, from being out in the community and doing a lot of charity work, and just developing relationships with the sponsors and clients and whatnot.
40:44
It is something...
40:45
You end up hearing from those people.
40:47
It started with the 40th anniversary show on February 4th, and then on March 2nd on my last show, it was just hearing from so many people who have kind of followed for anywhere from 3, 5, 10, 15, 30, 40 years.
41:04
That's cool.
41:06
That's really cool.
41:07
And obviously, you're not forgotten, and you're not going to be forgotten in the city, because you are a legend, a great legend, which I think is really cool.
41:15
But now you got five podcasts going.
41:16
Oh my goodness.
41:17
There may be more.
41:18
That's pretty amazing.
41:19
The way he's going.
41:20
There may be more.
41:21
Yeah, who knows?
41:22
Okay, so here's the big question.
41:26
Where do people find you?
41:27
Like, you have one website, five websites?
41:33
Where do they all get you?
41:34
First of all, you gave me the Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam, so there's my keychain.
41:39
Oh, come on.
41:41
Fantastic.
41:42
That's awesome.
41:43
So I like this.
41:45
Keychains are cool.
41:46
We should maybe rethink the mug.
41:48
No, I like the mugs, but these are really cool.
41:51
So that's really cool.
41:52
That was the first one, reluctantlypodcast.com is where it has all the links to YouTube and Spotify, Apple and all that stuff.
42:02
Then zoneonepodcast.com.
42:04
So when you go flying and you get to the airport and you're sitting with everybody else and you can see the plane out the window, what do you look at to determine when you're going to get on the airplane?
42:17
Yeah, what zone it is that you're in.
42:20
So Zone One is a premium travel experience.
42:24
I'm going to listen to it tomorrow when I'm at the airport.
42:28
I'm like Zone Four all the time because I'm cheap.
42:30
So reluctantlypodcast.com, zoneonepodcast.com, the financial insight is through Patrick Leonard's website, patrickmleonard.com.
42:43
There's going to be albertagolfpodcast.com, there's distillery discovery on YouTube.
42:50
And then there's just...
42:53
And I guess for my other stuff, voiceover and whatnot, is terryevansinc.com.
43:00
So trying to just keep track of all my websites.
43:04
I was going to say...
43:05
It's a lot.
43:06
I know.
43:06
Just Google Terry Evans and it'll take you to all your stuff.
43:10
We'll put the links on our website, because we only have one podcast, so we're easy to find.
43:16
But that's pretty cool.
43:18
That's really cool.
43:20
Amazing actually.
43:22
Man, I just think it's cool.
43:24
It is podcasting is the medium.
43:26
Studies are all showing us that more people are listening to podcasts now than they are listening to radio, younger generation.
43:33
Talk radio.
43:33
Talk radio, yeah.
43:34
So I think that's really cool.
43:35
And so I think yeah, this is what you're doing is amazing.
43:39
It's very diverse and it's very, I gotta start listening to all of these because it's pretty cool.
43:44
So, okay, going back to it.
43:47
We're coming to a close here.
43:48
You've been great.
43:50
I wanna know this.
43:51
And then Jennifer has one last question we ask every guest.
43:55
Best artist or band you ever met or interviewed?
44:00
Best.
44:03
B. B.
44:03
King.
44:04
B. B.
44:04
King?
44:05
No.
44:07
Really?
44:08
I mean, my son's name is Riley, John Riley.
44:11
Yeah.
44:12
His name, he's named Riley after B. B.
44:14
King.
44:15
Come on.
44:16
When I told B. B.
44:17
King that, my son had just been born.
44:21
He was only a few months old.
44:23
And then the next time I saw B. B.
44:25
King, Riley was three or four years old.
44:28
And B. B.
44:29
King remembered.
44:29
Yeah.
44:30
When I saw him again, he goes, did you bring your son?
44:32
I said, no.
44:33
The next time, the third time I saw B. B.
44:36
King, I took Riley.
44:37
He was seven, eight years old.
44:38
Yeah.
44:39
And he was standing up at the front of the stage.
44:43
And B. B.
44:44
King took the metal B. B.
44:46
King guitar pin off his lapel and gave it to Riley.
44:50
Riley still has it to this day.
44:52
Come on.
44:53
And he had the spotlight shine on Riley at the Jubilee Auditorium.
44:58
And my son's got like white blonde hair.
45:01
Yeah.
45:01
Yeah.
45:02
So it was like a beacon, this spotlight shining.
45:07
And B. B.
45:07
King said, this is what it's all about, bringing your child to see the blues and stuff.
45:12
But B. B.
45:12
King, before he died, he would come and he would play the Jubilee Auditorium.
45:17
And when he was still well enough to do so, he would go out and he would sit at a table right beside his bus.
45:25
His bus was all ready to go.
45:26
And he would sign autographs at that table until the last person had his signature.
45:32
And he would not get on his bus until there was nobody left in the parking lot.
45:36
Come on.
45:37
And the fact that he remembered on four different occasions that my son was named for him was a huge impact for me, a huge impact for my son.
45:49
And it was just he was so touched that I would name my son for him.
45:59
B. B King's real name is Riley.
46:01
But he was so touched that and he just remembered that.
46:05
He knew every time he came to Edmonton, he was going to be seeing me and meeting my son.
46:10
So that, you know, it's funny you tell that story.
46:13
The other day I was listening, watching a documentary and they were talking about B. B. King.
46:19
And this just helps me now understand what they said.
46:23
Is B. B. King lived down south somewhere and he had a beautiful piece of property with a long driveway, a long driveway.
46:30
And B. B. King would get in his John Deere and he would drive up and down the road of his property.
46:37
Just drive up and down the road all day.
46:39
And when they asked him, why do you do that?
46:41
He said, this is the best thing in the world.
46:44
Just me and my tractor and my road keeps me grounded.
46:47
And then I hear this and I totally, fully understand.
46:51
That's amazing.
46:52
Oh, that's what I wouldn't give to, wow.
46:55
I still keep in touch loosely with one of his daughters.
46:58
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
47:00
Really cool.
47:01
Well, is there a better way to segue into the final question with that?
47:05
I mean, really.
47:06
100%.
47:07
Yeah.
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Terry, what is the best piece of advice you've been given either personally or professionally that you still carry with you to this day?
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It's something that's not a big revelation or groundbreaking or anything like that.
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It's just, well, there's two.
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It's like other people's opinion of me are none of my business.
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I honestly, if you like me, if you get along with me, great.
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If you don't, move on with your day and just don't sit in your basement of your mom's house and write nasty things on social media.
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You got better things to do.
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I swear to God you do.
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But probably my own personal mantra, and this has bit me in the ass a bunch of times, but I do things the way that I do for the people who like it.
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I will not change the way I do things for the people who don't.
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I love it.
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I love it.
48:08
Terry, this has been an absolute pleasure.
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We can't thank you enough for being on this podcast.
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Thank you for the invite.
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Can I just say, and I mean it, you are a legend in our city.
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Our city is lucky to have you.
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Thank you.
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Like honestly, and the fact that you would take the time to come and sit with us here in beautiful downtown Acheson, in this coffee shop, it means the world to us.
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And it means it does because we just like you, we want to tell the story, the real story.
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And today you've given us, I think, an amazing glimpse of Terry and who he is and just I love it.
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I absolutely love it.
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And I listened to you for a lot of years.
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And you know, again, you hear the guy, you hear the voice, you laugh with you, you cheer you on, you do great music.
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But then when you get to know you a little bit, it just, it's, that's better than all of that, all those years of listening.
49:05
Well, thank you.
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So thanks.
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And all the best in all your podcasts.
49:08
Yes, and all your podcasts.
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We'll stay tuned.
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And any guests you don't want, ship them over to us.
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Or any guests you do want, and then want to ship them over to us.
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We'll wait till you air it, and then we'll do it too.
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But that's absolutely fabulous.
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So thanks everybody.
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Today's been a great day.
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A highlight for me.
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I know a highlight for Jennifer.
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Just a great day.
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It's been awesome.
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They'll do an amazing job for you.
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So, hey, listen, make sure you tell everybody about our podcast.
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Tell your friends, tell your neighbors, tell your enemies.
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If you don't have any friends, make one, just so you can tell them specifically about this podcast.
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Matter of fact, if you're sitting all alone at a bar somewhere and you got nobody to talk to, just turn to somebody and say, you got to listen to Terry Evans on Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam.
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And now you got a new friend and it's going to be great.
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Thanks, everybody.
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Really cool.
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Thanks, everybody.
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And we'll see you next week.
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Thanks, everyone.
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See you next week.