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Nikki Hart: nutritionist on WeightWatchers filing for bankruptcy · Best of Business

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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Weight Watchers is filing for bankruptcy in the US. The
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  Speaker 3: weight loss service has run for more than sixty years,
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  Speaker 3: but recently ran into a little bit of trouble. According
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  Speaker 3: to brand tracking platform Tracksuit, awareness of the weight Watchers
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  Speaker 3: brand in New Zealand has dropped by twenty two percent
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  Speaker 3: in just the last two and a half years, which
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  Speaker 3: is stunning. I would have thought nickiy Hart is a
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  Speaker 3: nutritionist and with this now, Hey Nikki, Hey Helen, what
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  Speaker 3: went wrong for them?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Look, I think it's multi factorial. I mean, if
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  Speaker 2: you look back sixty years ago, the messaging around weight
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  Speaker 2: loss was really simple, eat less, do more. But we
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  Speaker 2: know it's more complicated than that now. And I wonder
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  Speaker 2: if if I look at maybe and it was predominantly
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  Speaker 2: women who were using it way back in the day,
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  Speaker 2: I think we've matured. We're coming up the other end,
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  Speaker 2: going actually, I'm not buying into this now and I
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  Speaker 2: need to look after my nutrition. Are there other ways
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  Speaker 2: that I can look after my health well being in
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  Speaker 2: my weight and maybe it's not way watchus but.
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  Speaker 3: Nicky, I thought it was always just I still think
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  Speaker 3: it's about maths, isn't it. It's calories and have to
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  Speaker 3: be fewer than calories out.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, I know, because when you look at all the
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  Speaker 2: environmental factors and stuff at play now, and you've got
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  Speaker 2: to look at genetics and other things as well, So
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  Speaker 2: I think there's more to it. I think there's also
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  Speaker 2: with the advent of injectibles, the gel cal antagonists, I
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  Speaker 2: think that's playing a role in this as well.
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  Speaker 3: So we found a shortcut, isn't that The truth, Nicky,
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  Speaker 3: is that we've found that you can give yourself a
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  Speaker 3: little injection in the butt, like ozen pic and it's
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  Speaker 3: much easier than cutting down your calories.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's expensive, Heather, you know, like you're looking
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  Speaker 2: at at least five hundred dollars a month to be
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  Speaker 2: able to do this. So I don't actually think it's
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  Speaker 2: about as simple as an injectible either. I think I
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  Speaker 2: think there's the shift now that that whole input output
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  Speaker 2: thing we now know that's say, for example, increasing your
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  Speaker 2: protein gives you greater satiation, so you don't tend to
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  Speaker 2: want as much food. So there's a lot of women
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  Speaker 2: now who are doing a higher protein level in their diet,
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  Speaker 2: realizing they don't need to restrict their calate calories and
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  Speaker 2: eat rice cakes and bean sprouts and so feel that
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  Speaker 2: they can lose weight without.
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  Speaker 3: Doing Niki, what are you telling me that if I
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  Speaker 3: eat myself a gigantic piece of sta what a satiation?
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  Speaker 3: So that's satisfied.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you can feel fuller on the type of food
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  Speaker 2: that you're eating, but though.
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  Speaker 3: Still calories and calories outgo. I feel like we're getting distracted,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm loving it. Isn't it still the same? Because
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  Speaker 3: if I eat a gigantic piece of steak that maybe
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  Speaker 3: two hundred grams is four hundred calories, then I'm not
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  Speaker 3: going to want to have all the chocolates and the
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  Speaker 3: cakes and stuff, right, so it keeps me full of
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  Speaker 3: for longer. Therefore I still am taking in fewer calories.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, but the craving. So that's what ozenpic and stuff
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  Speaker 2: does is that they block you wanting sweet, refined cover
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  Speaker 2: hydrant especially and so therefore you're not getting those refined
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  Speaker 2: calate calories. But we still can't afford you to be malnourished.
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  Speaker 2: We still can't afford you who become micronutrient deficient because
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  Speaker 2: you're eating too low in total calories. We want the
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  Speaker 2: calories you do consume. Yeah, totally, yeah, I hear. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so is that for me?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: So, Nikki, what the planning to do at weight watches
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  Speaker 3: now is to do Tellyhealth? Is that going to work?
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  Speaker 3: Because it sounded to me like the Teally Health is
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  Speaker 3: basically going to be a teallyhealth service that helps you
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  Speaker 3: to get a prescription for the things like ozmpic, can
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  Speaker 3: we go v and so on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think I personally think that you shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: You shouldn't need that either. I believe that if you
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  Speaker 2: are under the guidance of your GP or healthcare professional.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know where they're place is for weight watches,
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  Speaker 2: But back in the day, like weight watches, we used
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  Speaker 2: to have our lovely John Burtbeck who was their medical
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  Speaker 2: advisor here in New Zealand, and it was based on
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  Speaker 2: our food and nutrition guidelines, Heather, That's what it was originally,
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  Speaker 2: and then it kind of morphed into this whole kind
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  Speaker 2: of points system, and I think women were like saving
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  Speaker 2: all their points up and eating pizza, you know, because
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  Speaker 2: they could safely points up and do it that way,
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  Speaker 2: and that wasn't good nutrition. Whereas I think with the
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  Speaker 2: advent of social media and all these GLP one things,
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  Speaker 2: women especially are sourcing their information a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: crudibly and going well, actually, what do I need for
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  Speaker 2: my health and well being, not just for white loss
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  Speaker 2: but for everything else and long jubid.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, that's fascinating. I really appreciate it. Nicky Hart, Nutritionist.
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