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Episode 542: Sierra Degroff – USATF 100 Mile & 24 Hour Champion Heading to Badwater 135 · I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein Podcast

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This is a Sandy Boy productions podcast.
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Hey everybody. Welcome to All have another podcast
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with Lindsay He. I'm your host Lindsay. Thanks
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so much for joining me today. Today on
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the podcast, we have Sierra D on the
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show,
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introducing you to another ultra runner.
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I'm am excited to share her story with
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you. She's actually
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competing in bad water 01:35
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next week. So make sure you go follow
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her on Instagram, and you can check out
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how she's doing over there. Her Instagram is
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s Dig, DEGR0FF.
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Sierra is a
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hundred mile Etf champion, as well as a
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24 hour
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Usa champion.
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She started running Ultra in 20 15, and
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she's really excel at the hundred mile distance.
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She... For sure has a shot. To win
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bad water next week, so it's gonna be
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really exciting to see what she does.
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She's run bad water before and did not
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have the greatest experience, but she's coming back
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to
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give it another go. She's run over a
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dozen hundred mile,
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She lives right outside of Las Vegas, Nevada,
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and also has a full time
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9 to 5 job. She's gonna share about
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all things running working and training for bad
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water in this episode. If you are enjoying
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Please enjoy my conversation with Sierra D.
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Hey, everybody.
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To stay on the podcast. We have Sierra
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D g on the show. Welcome to the
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show, Sierra.
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Hello.
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How are you?
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I'm good. Just got home from work, just
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hanging out.
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Nice and hot in Vegas, like, a hundred
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and 10 out right now. So
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What is the hot there? Like, is that...
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It is it a humid hot or, like,
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a dry hot? What is it? Dry.
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Okay... We've had, like, a little bit of
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humidity, like... Leave, but I mean, hot for
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Vegas can get up to, like, 01:15
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or so. So it's it's about there right
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now.
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Leave So... This might be a really broad
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basic question, but what is it like living
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in Las Vegas?
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Well, I've been here about 8 years now.
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So it's been a little bit. I'm from
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Michigan originally, and I went to school in
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Ohio. So
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Midwest,
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now you know, born and raised and then
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moved out here. I live in Summer, which
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is actually, like, a suburb of Las Vegas.
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I mean, by, like, my mailing address in
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Las Vegas, but over by, like, Red Rock
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and stuff,
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it's
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it's totally normal. I mean, I've lived downtown
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like, I've lived off of Las Vegas Boulevard
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to and that's probably the true
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experience of whatever everybody thinks of.
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But, yeah. Like, more recently, I've got a
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condo over in Summer couple years ago. So
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it's... You know, it's just casual, suburb verbiage.
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I mean, you got your homeless people and
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you know, all that stuff, But,
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not that crazy. Like, I'm barely ever on
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the strip. So, you know, it's, like, close
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enough if you want it, but it's far
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enough but
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really deal with it if you don't want
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to. So... Yeah. Can feel like a world
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away.
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Do you ever miss the Midwest?
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I, I... Sometimes, yeah. Like, there's definitely things
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we don't get here that are, like, the
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Great Lake. Like, I'm from Michigan and my
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parents have a house. I'm, like, Michigan and
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all that. And that's definitely the place to
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be in the summertime. So it's seriously. You
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know,
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Taking a change for the desert and super
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hot temps and all that out here. So
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there's some trade off that's for sure, but
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we don't have bugs. We don't have humidity.
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And
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yeah. There's a lot of other things. Like,
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anywhere that's desirable is like, a 5 hour
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drive, I feel like, in the Midwest or
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you're hopping on a plane and going
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2 times zones over. So
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just this is a lot more accessible out
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here for a lot of stuff. So I
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don't know.
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But I do miss. My family it's all
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there. And everything. So gonna try to get
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back pretty soon here. Yeah. You gotta schedule
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that in the summertime, but you've got a
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lot going on. I saw you got back
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into bad water. And Mh. Yeah. So that's
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that's the main focus right now is training
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and
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getting places to train for that. Like, we're
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in Saint. George last. Weekend, and this weekend,
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I'm headed out to Lone Pine. Gonna do
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a big climbing run. I already did the
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portal fine. So we're gonna do a different
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1 this week again, but and then we're
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in Colorado next weekend for another race to
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tune up. So we'll we'll see after all
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this fun in July, we'll
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right to head up to Michigan, maybe end
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of July or August or something. So... What
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do your parents think about what you do?
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With your running. Well,
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you know, my dad's always been a little
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more,
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interested and involved, I guess, if you will.
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He actually went out to bad water last
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year. So that was... Yeah.
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He really wanted to go. So I was
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like, well, you really picked a a big
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Alt to do your first 1 at had.
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So I don't know. That was it was
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cool. Like, my friend came out, and he
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was you know, he's got to us in
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lone pine and at the finish to take
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some pictures because he's a professional photographer, and
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he kinda just, like, tag going with my
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dad and they hung out. For the week
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and that was cool, so we didn't have
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to just be by himself because... And you
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might dad thinks. I'm really tough
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for have you probably a little crazy too
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with how much I run, but I feel
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like, you know, I've done a runner for
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so long? Just not ultra runner that
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I don't wanna say I'll blame it on
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him, but, you know, the whole cross country
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thing in high school that wasn't in.
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My doing that was, like, my coach and
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my parents. That were like, come on. You
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gotta do this, and it's, like, alright, I
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guess.
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So fault I got hooked.
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Yeah. Exactly. But no regrets. I love it.
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So they're I'm I'm happy.
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Well, that's interesting that he
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came to bad water for his first ultra
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of years to to witness.
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Because also you got really sick.
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Yeah. And So I think that I would
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be scary as a parent to see. Like,
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oh my gosh. I think I just be
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like, come just come getting the car. Come
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on.
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Yeah. No.
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I definitely... I've had some rough hundreds. I've
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done, like, 16 at this point, and that
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1 was definitely 1 of the top stuff
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or fast, I'd say, I mean, everything was
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going right until it wasn't, You know, I
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was with the lead pack for the first
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40 miles with Harvey and Ashley and Simon,
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and You know, I wasn't cooling properly. I
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mean, now I can look back at all
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the mistakes that were made that we're not
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gonna make this year, but
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yeah, When things got bad, It was just
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worse. And then it got a little better,
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and then I lost, like, almost 20 pounds
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out there from throwing thrown up. So that
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was pretty bad. But
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Wow.
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Did you... I mean, in 20 pounds that,
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like, your body probably can't really afford to
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lose. Like, did you have to go to
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the hospital after that?
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Didn't go to the hospital. No. I mean,
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some people might have, but
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you know, I mean, you do enough of
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these. You're, like, okay. As long as I'm
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better, like, a a day or 2, like,
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I shouldn't need, you know, I mean, the
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day of, in the day after it's kind
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of hard to judge, but everything kinda of
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subsided after that. And... No. I mean, the
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few stopped and, they will start eating again
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and drinking, so that's the important thing.
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You know, if I was in danger, I
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feel like I would have but you got
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your crew with you and you're... You're not,
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like, off the grid. So I mean, I
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needed medical attention and it was there. You
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know? Yeah. So
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what about
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bad water... Like,
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how do you wanna go back
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to a place where you suffered so severely.
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And I know you said, like, Oh, we're
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gonna fix all the things that Mh. We
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didn't do right. But does it scare you
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a little bit to know that that suffering
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is out there?
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I mean, of course. Like, I've... Like I
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said, this isn't my first rodeo. Like I've
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had a couple suffer fast at this point.
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But I think that's how you get better
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at these hundreds. I mean, it's not, like,
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the shorter stuff where it's all calculated, and,
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you know, you can be like while I
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did this on this training run and this
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on that. Like, you do all that. But
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with the hundred Mile, there's just so many
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other factors and how do you, like, deal
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with the... While challenges and stuff.
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I mean it makes me want it even
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more, and... I'd love to win. I mean,
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that's, like, my goal would be to win
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the race and, you know, 24 to 28
9:16
hour would be my Able. But, and, the
9:19
everything has to go right for that, you
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know. So
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Yeah. I mean, I really wanna do it
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right this time. So I don't have to
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go back for a little bit. But
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and then who is your crew gonna be
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this time? Is it some of the same
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people, all of the same people?
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Yeah. So, like, 50 percent will be coming
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back? So my boyfriend Joe, and my John
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Will,
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we've actually... We've ran, like, 80 miles and
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a hundred before together. So, like, before he
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ever accrued me, he was, like, a really
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good, you know, running buddy,
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and then my friend Maya will be a
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new 1, and she's done she's been running
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under Mile for over 10 years now. She's
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been doing it forever. And then
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my friend Megan Ec. I don't know if
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you know who that is. She just had
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a phenomenal
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performance at 6 days in the dome. She
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ran, like, 526
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miles, so she's, like, next up behind camille,
10:14
I think for the world's
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record. Yeah. Like I'm friends with Camille too,
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but I'm like, dang, Megan, like, you know,
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she's a teacher, like, not a full time
10:23
runner. I mean, I'm not a full time
10:24
runner either, but I'm like, you're just amazing.
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You know. So,
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yeah. Meghan and Maya will be new and
10:32
the other 2 are veterans, but Meghan's has
10:35
been out there before. So Maya is really
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the only, like, bad water virgin, if you
10:40
will that hasn't crew paste or ran the
10:42
race or anything. So,
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Yeah. We should be good. I mean, I'm
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I'm not too nervous about it. Like, I'm
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fortunate enough. I have tons of friends that
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either live nearby or do it. So it
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wasn't a big deal to fill the slots.
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Okay. That race you mentioned that your friend
11:01
Megan did, and she's... Because you said she
11:03
did what 5 2520
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miles? Think, 526
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and Camille was, like, what, like, 05:60.
11:10
I it, like, 5... What with a 60
11:12
crazy. I think I I don't know. That...
11:15
Like don't quote on this. No. Pretty it
11:17
was 40 or 60 because I... Yeah. I
11:20
just talked to interviewed her.
11:23
Well, the the reason I followed up on
11:25
that is because I'm, like, you know, with
11:27
the camille thing, they had so... Much P
11:29
because of the Lulu lim further project. And
11:32
when you mentioned this race, I'm like, I
11:34
don't remember saying anything about that. And, like,
11:35
that's a big deal. Much It is a
11:38
big deal. I mean, like, Megan Ted's and
11:40
very
11:41
standout performances. I mean, I... You know, I've...
11:44
I'm her friend, So, obviously, I follow, but,
11:46
like, She's doing big this year too. I
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mean, she... She she is. Yeah. She ran,
11:51
like, 2 70 miles at the last man
11:54
standing earlier this year and beat guy or
11:58
something... You know, like, she's done some really
12:01
high mileage,
12:04
55 or, you know, like, multi day force
12:07
things where... In this, you know, I'm not
12:10
surprised that she did so well at the
12:12
dome,
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And it's a Us Atf, race and stuff.
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So I mean, it's in... I think it's
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in Milwaukee. So it's
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I don't know where we're in the Midwest.
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Right? I I was for a long time.
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I'm in grocery right now, but I'm from
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Indiana. Okay. Yeah. So, I mean, I don't
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know.
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In a track for 6 days inside. That's
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just terrible to me. You. I've done a
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track race outside, but indoors and that was
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for
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hundred miles, which is funny. So
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wow.
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That's Wild.
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So
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you know, you mentioned cross country as as
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as a high school or and your dad
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and your coach kinda getting you into it.
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Mh. But I looked up your ultra.
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Sign up results and everything, and I saw
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you run your first ultra in 20 15
13:00
at 24.
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Is that... That's the first on ultra sign
13:03
up that I saw. Is there anything before
13:05
that? That's accurate. No. That's accurate. Yeah.
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So that's pretty young 24 to do your
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first ultra.
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What was the impetus for that? How did
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you get into Ultra?
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Yeah. So,
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I... Like I said, I grew up in
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Michigan. I went to school at University at
13:26
Toledo. So in college, I worked at Dates
13:28
running shop. Which has a pretty big presence
13:31
in, like, Ohio. They had like, 4 running
13:33
stores and they put on the Glass City
13:35
marathon.
13:35
So I was working there, and I was
13:38
on their race, team
13:40
because they had, like, a door race team,
13:42
and I don't know. I mean, I... I
13:45
was looking at... I think it was Woodstock.
13:47
It's my first and then it was looking
13:49
at that, and it wasn't gonna be a
13:51
e queue. And at the time, like, all
13:53
I realized, like, her about was marathons, and
13:55
I was, like... And couple more dollars to
13:57
do the 50 k. It's Like oh. You
13:59
know, Let's let's try something new. Like, it's
14:02
a trail raise or whatever. So, yeah. I
14:04
went and did a
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It was okay. Like, at the time, I
14:07
wasn't, like, sold on Alt because it wasn't...
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People were as into it, especially back then
14:14
and in Midwest. Is, like, nobody really did
14:16
that stuff. Like, it was just, like marathons
14:19
or half marathons. So...
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Yeah. That that wasn't really what sparked it
14:25
for me.
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It... Because if you look, it took a
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little bit to, like, you know, raise the
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distance and mh, really get in do it.
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Like, couple years. So moving out here definitely
14:35
helped,
14:37
grow that passion for sure. So 16 hundreds.
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Yes. Do that I've completed. I've attempted 18.
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I've finished 16.
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Okay. Let's dissect those a little bit. What
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was the hardest?
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Oh,
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ma'am,
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I mean trailer road.
14:56
What do you like better trailer road? I
14:58
mean, I'm better at road. I I kinda
15:01
like the road better because that's, like, you
15:03
know, my background,
15:05
but I I do have, like, a soft
15:07
spot for trails. I mean, they're super pretty.
15:10
Like, the places that I've been on some
15:12
of these trails and these hundreds. They're just
15:15
phenomenal. I mean, like, cascade crest, 100. For...
15:18
Okay. So for trails,
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that was probably...
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Let's say that was probably the hardest.
15:24
Trail. Cascade hundred.
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Cass Crest in Washington.
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Yeah. Okay.
15:30
And I don't know if that's because it
15:31
was, like, the first of, like, 3 that
15:33
I did the summer of 20 22. I
15:35
had, like, a 2 week gap and between
15:38
Cascade Crest Angels Crest and lead bill. So
15:42
That was a little wild.
15:44
But Washington's
15:45
trails are just so rugged. Like, and you
15:47
wouldn't think that and the births not that
15:50
high, but
15:51
Yeah. The terrain just super techie. At least
15:54
from what I'm used to. I mean, we're
15:56
kind of technical in Nevada, but there's some
15:59
run stuff too. You, so
16:01
It's a that for trail, and then for
16:04
road.
16:05
I mean, bad water, of course. So the
16:07
loop stuff's kinda hard too, though. I mean,
16:10
because you really gotta
16:11
have a different, like,
16:13
mental game with that, because, you know, you're
16:16
just doing, like, the track race. It did,
16:18
like, over 400 loops around the track. I
16:20
mean, you can't
16:21
Yeah. There's no, like, even keeping track at
16:24
that point, you know? So,
16:28
I don't know. I think a 24 hour.
16:30
If I
16:32
completed a 24 hour on a track because
16:34
it sol this, I pulled the plug at
16:36
a hundred miles because I had just done
16:38
fat box like weeks prior. And as just
16:40
like, I'm trash. Like, I can't I can't
16:43
imagine another extra. However, many hours around this
16:46
track,
16:47
I think that would be really tough. Like,
16:48
a 24 hour around a track. Just haven't
16:51
done the whole time yet. So
16:54
But, you, if you hadn't have just done
16:56
the Fat 24 hours.
16:59
I'm sure you would have completed. Yeah. Yeah.
17:01
It wasn't a matter of, like, can I
17:03
do this? It was just like, I had
17:05
won the hundred, and I got my buckle
17:07
and everything, And I mean, I I don't
17:09
wanna sound like, a baby but I'm like,
17:12
I wanna go to bed, but I wanna
17:14
lose sleep because I didn't, you know, I
17:16
didn't take extra time off work or anything
17:18
either. We just, like, drove down the Phoenix
17:20
after work on a Friday and had to
17:21
go back on... I don't know why to
17:23
do that.
17:24
I don't know how you do that? So
17:26
you work full time. You have a normal
17:28
8 to 5 job. What do you do?
17:31
I'm an account manager for sales. So
17:34
yeah. I sell electrical
17:37
distribution equipment
17:38
for vital electric supplies. So,
17:41
yeah. It's it's fun. I'm, like, 8 to
17:44
04:30, Monday through Friday and
17:47
when I'm not working, I'm usually running or
17:49
at the gym or
17:51
doing something of that nature. So This is
17:54
why we're recording this, 08:30,
17:56
eastern time, 05:30,
17:58
Pacific time.
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Yeah.
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Would you normally be running right now though?
18:03
Like, did you carve it out? Or are
18:04
you gonna go run after this?
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No.
18:07
I was supposed to do a double today,
18:09
but I did a double. Yes. Screwed instead.
18:11
So I I planned ahead when I got
18:12
your email. I was like, we'll just do
18:14
it I mean, I can flip flop. It's
18:16
it's not big deal. As long as the
18:18
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18:20
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You know, I I basically bought a plan
19:41
from those guys, so it wasn't, like, a
19:43
very, like, 1 on 1 sort of thing.
19:46
So
19:46
I I don't know I Maybe didn't from
19:49
Connor. Yeah. And, I mean, I a degree
19:51
in exercise science, and I don't really have
19:54
an accountability problem. Like, I, you know, I've
19:57
been training myself for years, and I I
19:59
will do the workouts. Like, I will do
20:01
the miles. It's just
20:03
I don't know. I I kind of, like,
20:05
needed somebody more to talk to, I guess,
20:07
if you will, and it's nothing against them,
20:10
and I probably... Like I said, I just
20:11
bought the wrong plan.
20:14
So I actually...
20:16
I I met Anna,
20:18
my current coach back at H
20:21
last... Year, because she was coaching Ryan at
20:25
the time, Montgomery,
20:26
and I was
20:28
kind of in the same tent as those
20:30
guys because I was Korean pacing Rachel North
20:33
fleet,
20:34
and that's 1 of Ryan's like best friends.
20:36
So anyways, I like got
20:38
in the mix with her, you know, like,
20:40
watching her coach him and, like, how, you
20:42
know, speak with him and everything, and we
20:45
became friends at that point also and, you
20:47
know,
20:48
it just...
20:49
It seems like it was gonna be a
20:50
good fit, I guess, just with
20:52
my...
20:53
I don't... I don't know. Like, my
20:56
experience
20:57
seeing her and Ryan and, like, how she
20:59
is with him and just as a coach.
21:02
And, you know, I had no problem, like,
21:04
talking to her on, like, a friendship level
21:06
and everything too. So
21:08
I had just hit her up and was
21:09
like, hey, You know, I I think we
21:10
could... Try this, and this would be good
21:12
for us or whatever. And so I... I've
21:14
been working with her. You seem... Like you
21:17
said, you don't have a struggle with motivation.
21:19
Like, you're gonna get done what needs... To
21:20
get done?
21:21
And you know what you're doing?
21:23
So, like, how do you... How does that
21:26
work with a coaching relationship when like, like
21:28
You were just sailing, I just did my
21:30
double yesterday and instead, Like, you know what
21:32
to do.
21:33
So how do you handle that relationship?
21:37
So, yeah. I just...
21:39
I think that's kind of why I made
21:41
the switch also. I needed something that was
21:43
more personalized and, like, tailored to, like, in
21:46
the moment. Like, what I got with the
21:48
other guys was, like, okay. Here's your plan.
21:51
This is gonna go, like, 2 months out.
21:53
This is your week to week, whatever.
21:55
And it was just almost more stressful for
21:57
me to, like, not have that person to
22:00
kinda, like you know...
22:02
I guess, go
22:04
text or whatever the week before and be
22:06
like, hey. By the way, like, I forgot,
22:07
like, I wanna do this race as the
22:09
training runner.
22:10
I have this other goofy thing that I
22:12
need to do, You know, like, and with
22:14
her, it's, like, I just text her and
22:17
tell her and she'll... U kinda work around
22:19
it because I'm getting it week by week,
22:21
You know? So it's not,
22:23
like, I have to, like,
22:25
you know, worry about that stuff, and she's
22:27
been very flexible. Like,
22:30
I mean,
22:31
it's it's, like, I don't wanna call it
22:33
a part. It is a partnership. You know,
22:35
like, it's not
22:36
just like, this is what you're doing, and
22:38
I don't care what you wanna do. Like,
22:41
it's like, no, like, let's work around what's
22:43
important to you and, you know, and we've
22:46
had
22:47
good,
22:47
you know, results with that. Like, I... I'm
22:50
happy with it, and I'm happy working with
22:52
her, and you know, I can just text
22:54
or collar or whatever, and that's more so
22:56
what I, like, needed. I don't know that
22:59
I needed somebody to just do the programming,
23:01
you know. So... Totally.
23:03
Will she be will she be a bath
23:05
water?
23:06
She won't know. Because she's a runner too.
23:09
So she's scattered stuff, and she's in Colorado.
23:12
So unfortunately, no. But maybe have Lena. We'll
23:15
see. I I don't know yet. She's not
23:17
running it. I I don't know if she's
23:19
running it yet. So maybe look to race
23:21
each other.
23:22
That would be funny.
23:24
So... That would be so funny if you're
23:26
racing your coach. So
23:28
Yeah.
23:29
I mean, it's fine. Like, I'm sure it
23:31
it be a little but, yeah, Like, you
23:34
know, it's just like anything else like,
23:36
I raised other friends. I I'm too, and
23:39
it's just friendly
23:40
competition.
23:42
Yeah.
23:43
So you... I saw you jumped into a
23:45
half and ran, like, 01:21,
23:48
and
23:49
I'm so curious. Like...
23:52
You run hundred mile plus distances.
23:55
And I know obviously, you weren't training for
23:58
that 01:21. Just like, okay. What can I
24:00
do here?
24:01
What does that, like,
24:04
pain feel like? And what does that even,
24:06
like, how does a race like that even
24:08
feel? It's such a small...
24:10
Blip for what... From what you're used to.
24:13
Oh, man. That 1 that I did that
24:16
you're talking about the rock and roll. That
24:18
was, like, not even a week before Jackpot
24:21
20 23.
24:23
And, honestly,
24:24
I didn't have a coach at that point,
24:26
and it was funny because, like, I didn't
24:28
really think it through. I was like, oh,
24:30
you know, it's, like, just the speed out.
24:32
We're gonna do on Sunday night and they
24:34
were... Gonna run a hundred miles on Friday,
24:36
and, you know, it wasn't really well planned.
24:38
I he was executed, but, like,
24:41
I was pretty gonna sore and struggling. For,
24:45
like, a day or 2 after that race.
24:46
And because I heard like
24:48
the best half for me. That was a
24:50
P. So
24:52
the turnover.
24:54
Yeah.
24:55
So I don't know. It it worked out.
24:57
Like, I had APR at the hundred and
24:58
2, so that was great. But
25:01
this year, we tried it again, and it
25:03
was, like, the opposite. It was the hundred
25:06
had moved up a week.
25:07
So I did jackpot, and then I did
25:10
the half
25:11
a week later, and I think my time
25:13
was, like, a 01:28.
25:15
And I tell like of you. Oh,
25:18
it was bad. Like, I feel like I
25:20
totally screw myself on recovery. Just... From Jack.
25:24
That I didn't give myself a recovery. So
25:26
we're never doing that again. That's... We're gonna
25:28
pick a half. That's just not a week
25:31
apart.
25:33
So So
25:35
before a week after...
25:36
Like, for me, running a half is no
25:39
big deal. It's, like, well, I just have
25:41
to work hard for, like, less than an
25:43
hour and a half. It's not like, okay.
25:45
You gotta work hard for, like, 16 hours,
25:48
Do you know? So
25:49
full different.
25:51
It hurts different too that it does hurt.
25:53
Mh. Yeah. Yeah. Propensity of pat that hour
25:57
and a half or hour half or whatever.
25:59
It's like... I don't love. That's for sure.
26:02
Yeah.
26:03
How do you decide
26:05
which
26:07
races to do in this ultra space.
26:10
The last 2 years, I've been more focusing
26:13
on, like, what I'm... The best at, not
26:16
so much what I'm gonna have the most
26:18
fun at or, you know, whatever.
26:22
Because I found the loop courses in the
26:24
road stuff. I'm
26:25
far more competitive than, you know, I've won
26:29
some trail. Like I'm not gonna say I'm,
26:31
like, garbage on the trails because I'm not,
26:33
But I'm definitely stronger suited on the road
26:35
stuff because that's just my background.
26:37
And I'm clumsy, like,
26:39
you know? So
26:42
yeah. The last 2 years, My... I mean,
26:44
bad water's, like, the chip on my shoulder
26:46
where it's like that. Was, like, the goal
26:48
race of the year. I mean, I would
26:50
have loved to have P at Jackpot, but
26:52
that's behind us. You know,
26:55
it and now we're just really focusing on
26:57
that. And
26:59
H,
27:00
that's another 1. I need a redemption race
27:03
at because I didn't do so great at
27:04
a hundred k a couple years ago, I
27:06
got sick at that 1 too. So I'm
27:08
gonna try to go big at that 1
27:11
also. But
27:12
I don't know. I mean you have got
27:14
in October.
27:15
Mh. Yeah. I mean, Try to go for...
27:18
I am doing the hundred. Yeah.
27:20
I'd love to try to be in contention
27:22
for a ticket, like, a golden ticket, that'd
27:24
be awesome. But like I said, the day
27:26
just has to kinda, you know, has go
27:29
well and
27:31
yeah. I don't know. I mean,
27:33
I'm not trying to put too much on
27:36
the calendar because I have, like, this thought
27:38
of maybe sliding 1 more in, but it's
27:41
like, no. Like, we're just gonna,
27:43
you know, scale back a little bit because
27:46
last year, I just felt the fatigue big
27:48
time at the end of the year, so
27:51
I kinda wanna respect these races a little
27:54
more.
27:55
And
27:56
I'm sure, probably at least 50 percent, maybe
27:59
80 percent of the people listening know what
28:00
you mean when you say golden ticket, but
28:02
you're talking about Western states.
28:04
Yeah.
28:05
Yeah.
28:06
Well, I'm like, in case you, you know?
28:08
Because, like, I do lean towards marathon. No.
28:10
I know. Under sorry.
28:12
No. Don't be sorry. I'm just like, I
28:14
should clarify in case someone's
28:16
new to, like, the ultra scene.
28:18
Because I was gonna ask you that too,
28:19
though, like, is Western states. On your bucket
28:22
list.
28:23
Yeah.
28:25
I think it is on my list.
28:28
Hard rock is also on my bucket list
28:30
but maybe a little higher than Western states,
28:33
but I think it's more like, the ticket
28:36
chase would be more of a...
28:38
Accomplishment it, obviously, in my opinion, like, you
28:41
know, I I obviously, being at Western would
28:43
be amazing, but
28:46
Otherwise, it's just gonna take me, like, 6
28:47
years, like, everyone else, you know.
28:51
You're... Yeah. You're saying to get in with
28:53
the ticket. Like, getting that... With the ticket
28:55
you get in sooner. Yeah. Without, I'm just
28:58
gonna have to keep running these hundred cool...
29:00
Or, like, the ticket qualifying races, which
29:04
Yeah.
29:05
This year, mine would be.
29:07
I mean, I've I've been trying to qualify
29:10
since maybe 29.
29:13
18. I I remember at this point.
29:16
So but the golden ticket races,
29:20
you
29:21
corrects me if I'm wrong. You have to
29:22
get top 2 at these golden ticket races?
29:25
It varies.
29:26
So have had stop 2. Okay. Some of
29:29
them though 3 deep. So, like, I think
29:31
Black Canyon goes 3 deep. But it's cool
29:33
because Ara has 2 of those races, and
29:36
I'm actually on the Air race team also.
29:38
So that's exciting.
29:41
Mh.
29:42
Are you gonna be paying attention there with
29:44
western states this weekend?
29:46
Yeah. Yeah. I know I have a couple
29:48
friends that are running it, so I was
29:50
text them all today and I was like,
29:51
oh, I'm rooting for you. Blah blah. Like,
29:54
I sent Emily H text and Ryan Montgomery
29:57
and them,
29:59
Emily so nice. I love Emily. And she
30:01
goes... She's been top time a couple years
30:03
now, so she's a phenomenal runner. I met
30:05
her at I am tough. Back in 20
30:08
20.
30:09
She crushed that race, and she'd beat, like,
30:13
a lot of the boys too. It was
30:14
funny. Because she was, like, in front for
30:16
a while and the guys were like, who
30:17
is this? And, like, what are they doing?
30:20
So
30:22
she's super cool. But
30:24
Yeah. I'll I'll be following. I'll get my
30:26
work workout in, and then I'll be able
30:27
to focus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got time.
30:31
Will, this episode will obviously come out. After
30:33
Western states. But
30:36
I have a... We have a new podcast
30:37
in my network called the Trail Network podcast
30:39
and so Rachel Drake and Leah Ying lane
30:42
are both hosts on that podcast and they're
30:45
running this weekend. So I'm gonna be excited
30:47
to to track them. Yeah.
30:49
They're great.
30:50
Yeah. Be fun.
30:52
Okay. So we'll probably air this. I guess
30:54
it'll be closer to when you're going to
30:57
bad water. I mean, where you're, like, a
30:58
month away.
31:00
Mh.
31:01
Yeah. No. It's coming up. Most of us
31:03
marathon, like, we do, like, a typical 2
31:05
week, maybe 3 week tape, Like, what does
31:07
your life look like? The 3 weeks leading
31:09
up to a bad water? And, like, what
31:11
are you entering those 3 weeks at as
31:13
far as like, how many miles a week
31:15
are you running and whatnot?
31:18
Well, I mean, I can't really tell you
31:19
that far out. So I don't have my
31:21
schedule yet, but,
31:23
typically,
31:24
like, this Sunday, for example, will be...
31:27
I mean, at this point, what's the date
31:29
today? Today, but it's at the end of
31:31
the month. So we're less than a month
31:33
out. Is start of the 20 second... Yeah.
31:36
So, like, for example, this weekend, I have,
31:38
like, speed work, probably, like, 15, 60 miles
31:41
on Saturday, and then I have 30 Mile
31:43
on Sunday,
31:44
and then next week, and I'll probably have
31:46
a hundred miles for the week and the
31:48
next week, I'll probably have another hundred mile
31:50
week, and I have a 50 k on
31:52
Saturday.
31:53
I have no idea what I'm gonna do
31:54
on Sunday But, I mean, I would think
31:57
maybe after that, we might...
32:00
I don't know if she'll have me taper
32:01
a week or too early. It depends. Like,
32:04
definitely the week of, but, like,
32:06
maybe for me tapering, though would be maybe,
32:09
like, a 80 mile week,
32:12
Mh 2 weeks out? Is that still, like,
32:14
a lot less volume than what I'm used
32:16
to doing, but I get, like, restless. I
32:19
don't know. I was Wondering.
32:21
You get a little antsy.
32:22
Yeah. I mean, I just feel like I'm
32:24
not doing enough. You know? You're like, no
32:26
I do with all this free time on
32:27
my hands like...
32:29
What do you do?
32:31
Other than Run and eat and sleep things
32:34
it'll work.
32:35
You know, I
32:37
I like to hike. I like to do
32:38
anything outdoors. Really, you know,
32:41
I like to... Well, in the summertime in
32:43
Vegas, I like to go the pool, so
32:45
I like to do that.
32:48
You know, we usually just relax the for
32:50
not running, we'll, like, lay down, watch a
32:53
movie or something.
32:55
And yeah, I'm really not that exciting.
32:59
What does your boyfriend run a lot? Is
33:00
he, like an ultra runner as well?
33:02
Yeah. He did Western states last year, actually.
33:06
He got him... It was his... Oh, Jeez.
33:09
Wasn't his second hunter mile. Was his second...
33:11
Under me. He got in. Like, right away.
33:14
Yeah. But did we get in with a
33:16
plan ticket, how did he get in? No.
33:19
He he had ran hurt 100 was his
33:21
first hundred, which is, like, a really hard
33:23
1, and then he did Castle peek, so
33:26
he had done 2 qualifier.
33:28
And then he got in
33:30
with, like, yeah, Like, 2 years of tickets.
33:34
And because, like... Okay. They still call at
33:37
tickets. Because I have Golden it, like, your
33:39
just watery tickets.
33:43
So... Yeah. He got in... And he's doing
33:44
Lead bill this year. So we'll be out
33:47
at that
33:48
get like, August,
33:50
level bill 100. So it's a good 1.
33:52
I did that 1 in 20 22.
33:54
It's the fun. So what kind of advice
33:56
are you giving him for that?
33:59
Well, I'm just always given them hard time
34:01
because we have different coaches, and, like, sometimes
34:04
we'll have... Almost the same workout, but it's,
34:07
like, different pace of the week. So, like,
34:09
this week, I'm like, doing hills on Wednesday.
34:11
And I go, why aren't are you doing
34:13
Hills? Like, you're ready to let Bill, The
34:14
whole back half. Is that uphill. Like, I
34:16
don't know what you're doing. And he's like,
34:18
no. Like, I gotta go to the mountain
34:20
and I have speed. So I don't know.
34:22
I'm not his coach. I don't think he'd
34:24
let me coach him. So
34:26
that's fine. I used to coach actually. I
34:29
I coach Cross country.
34:31
When I was college, so that was fun.
34:33
Mh.
34:34
Like, high school kids?
34:36
Yeah. I posted at Not dame Academy
34:39
in Toledo, Ohio. So... Okay. Mh. What was
34:43
your favorite part about doing that?
34:47
I he just really, like, rewarding, you know?
34:49
I mean, all these girls like, look up
34:51
to you. We have, like, a team of,
34:52
like, 40 girls, and You know, some days,
34:55
I was, like, the only 1 in charge.
34:57
And for me, it's, like, I'm not a
34:59
school teacher. So, you know, it's a little
35:01
scary at times. So
35:04
so people.
35:05
Yeah. It even, like their parents. Like, their
35:08
parents were just so, like, thankful for, you
35:11
know, like, experience that you're, like, offering their
35:13
kids, and they just... You know, it's just
35:16
a really good bang.
35:18
And then you're just helping them I mean,
35:21
I was... I think it was, like, 21
35:23
at the time. So it wasn't fat much
35:24
older than they were. Like, sometimes I go
35:26
to, like, the school. So we'd be like,
35:28
oh what what great are you in? And
35:30
they're like, no. No. No.
35:32
So...
35:33
Yeah. It is fun. I mean, if work
35:35
allowed for something like that. And be more
35:38
willing to do it, I'll, but it's just
35:40
like,
35:41
I don't know. And I'm... I'm so hyper
35:43
focused on my own running career at this
35:45
0, you don't have time.
35:47
It's a sacrifice.
35:48
Like on Saturdays. When you're going to those
35:50
meats, you're not getting the long run it.
35:52
Like, your long long run is... Go over
35:54
the be and chasing people around all day.
35:57
So, yeah. It it was it was good.
36:00
And the lady I coach with we're still
36:02
really close to. So she was
36:04
really, we can't to work with. So mh
36:07
Yeah. You'll have to revisit that when you're
36:09
not doing hundreds anymore. I mean, I just
36:11
when I retire.
36:14
Yeah. Yeah.
36:16
Just... I mean, honestly, because it just...
36:19
The amount that you work and such a
36:23
regular schedule.
36:24
You know what I mean? Because a lot
36:25
of people
36:28
do this, like, balance with work and and
36:30
running lots of miles, but you have, like,
36:32
hours you have to be.
36:34
There, which I think would be really difficult.
36:37
Like, you can't just be like, okay. I'm
36:39
gonna work a little bit from, like, 5AM
36:41
to 9. And then I'm gonna go for
36:43
my run, and then... You know what I
36:44
mean? Like, sounds like you a pretty
36:47
regiment
36:48
work time.
36:50
Yeah. And, I mean, I've had it that
36:52
way for years now. You know? I mean,
36:54
it's better now than ever. I used to
36:56
work for Tesla, and
36:58
they would just change my schedule all the
37:00
time. And when I say all the time,
37:01
it was, like, you got 5 eights and
37:04
then, like, a month later or you got
37:05
4 tens, and it's these random days. So,
37:08
like, we're gonna change your workday days completely.
37:11
And then there was, like, some years where
37:13
it was, like, a different time a day
37:15
every day of the week, different each week,
37:18
and it was just, like, oh my gosh.
37:20
Like, how does anybody have a normal,
37:22
life or running schedule or anything with these
37:25
things. So now I'm like, super thankful that
37:28
I'm back to, like, regular
37:30
at least it's like, I know what to
37:32
expect. I mean...
37:33
Yeah. There's no surprises. So
37:37
in Tesla would work you over time a
37:39
ton too at, like, end of quarter. Like,
37:42
I think Jackpot 20 20,
37:44
I... They weren't giving me any extra days
37:46
off. So I had to work till 7
37:49
or 8PM, the night before the race. Oh,
37:51
my goodness. And then
37:53
I had to go home, like, go to
37:54
bed and everything. And then I ran the
37:56
race. Luckily, I got done in, like, under
37:59
16 hours.
38:00
And then I had to do the drug
38:02
tests and everything and go back for awards
38:04
the next day. So I got barely any
38:06
sleep.
38:07
And then I think I had Saturday where
38:09
I just kinda
38:11
hung out and then Sunday, I had to
38:13
go back to work, Like, it was just
38:14
like, no. You don't get an extra day
38:15
off. It's end of quarter. Like, you know,
38:18
Tesla doesn't care if you gotta run a
38:19
hundred mile. So
38:21
Do they... I mean, do you do the
38:23
people you work with, like,
38:24
now and then have, like, any idea what
38:27
you actually do.
38:29
Yeah. I mean, like, my coworkers are supportive
38:32
of it for sure. And, like, my current
38:34
job, like, my boss... Like, posted something to
38:37
Linkedin
38:38
and, like, had of picture of me and
38:40
like, congrats, Sierra, and like, all the stuff,
38:42
like, they're super supportive of it. So
38:45
Yeah. No. They get it.
38:48
It's just when you work for a major
38:50
company like Tesla you're not really like...
38:53
It friends with the boss. Like, I've never
38:55
met Elon. So...
38:57
Yeah.
38:58
And that's probably a good thing.
39:01
Did they give you a tesla?
39:04
No. No way.
39:06
And I don't drive a tesla. I'd I
39:08
drive a subaru roof.
39:10
Oh, my gosh.
39:13
Okay. So you have bad water.
39:16
What do you have before bad water or
39:17
anything? Did you... You said you a 50
39:19
k?
39:20
Oh, yeah. So I'm.
39:23
Silver tin,
39:25
Alpine 50 k, and that's Silver team Colorado.
39:29
Not this weekend but next weekend on Saturday.
39:31
So I think that's the
39:33
sixth. So I6I
39:36
saw Sabrina Stanley is signed up, which is
39:38
funny.
39:39
I don't know if you know who that
39:40
is.
39:42
She's 1 hard rock. And she lives in
39:44
Silver. I was like, what?
39:46
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40:49
How do you do with altitude? And like,
40:51
what's that like where you live?
40:54
Vegas is that, like, 2 to 3 in
40:56
town, and then we actually...
40:59
Like, I can go up to our base
41:02
of our mountain, which is not Charleston and
41:04
run up the road, and it will go
41:05
up to, like, 8 something just on the
41:07
road. So
41:09
I do pretty well else. It is to.
41:11
Like, when I ran lead bill, and I've
41:13
done other, like, high altitude races. I've never
41:15
really struggled with, like, l sickness
41:19
Unless I'm, like, over 14 for very long,
41:22
like, I'm not getting sick or anything like
41:25
What is... The most beautiful mountain you've ever
41:28
peaked.
41:29
Oh, man.
41:32
Tasha has some really cool.
41:35
Peaks, like the Ta mountain range in Utah.
41:38
It's very similar to the San juan, which
41:40
is where we're gonna be running Silver,
41:45
just, like, I'm trying to think,
41:48
Bell map was pretty cool. Was like, super
41:50
rocky.
41:51
I mean, I love Mount wait at me
41:52
too. I mean It's just you know, it's
41:55
so epic.
41:57
Lang is a cool 1 2,
42:00
boundary peak. That's,
42:02
technically, the highest in Nevada, I wanna say,
42:05
but it's on the border, so it's kinda
42:07
argue
42:08
arguably the highest.
42:10
Mh.
42:11
I'd like to do more. I've kinda, like,
42:14
calm them down on the peak bag and
42:16
with all these ultra,
42:18
it's kinda like,
42:19
Okay. Yeah if I gotta run a hundred
42:20
mile and go, you know, climb whole bunch
42:22
of peaks.
42:24
But, yeah. No. It's fun, and I could.
42:28
Yeah. And you have you have time... It's
42:30
like, you have time to focus on that
42:31
in other part times in your life. Like,
42:33
you don't have to do that right now.
42:35
You've you got other focus. Yeah. I'm close
42:37
enough though. Like, this weekend, we'll be out
42:40
by loan Pine. So I'll be able to
42:42
see, like, Whitney and horseshoe meadows is the
42:45
road we're gonna run up, and that's actually
42:47
gonna be the road that takes you the
42:49
base of Lang.
42:50
So Okay. We'll get plenty of good views
42:53
of the peaks.
42:55
So...
42:57
Okay. So 1 of my favorite questions to
42:59
ask.
43:00
Specifically ultra runners? I guess I asked shorter
43:03
distance runners as too, but how do you
43:05
have fun?
43:07
When you're like, hurting so bad? Like, how
43:09
do you marry those 2 things? Because you're
43:11
obviously doing that as well?
43:15
Yeah.
43:16
I mean, I guess,
43:18
it's kind of like... And this is kind
43:20
like the beauty of, like, even, like, why
43:22
do I wanna go back. To bad water
43:24
and, like, you look at some of the
43:25
pictures and me out there and you're like,
43:26
I don't know why this girl wants to
43:28
work. Crazy.
43:30
But to. Yeah. I know. My dad was
43:32
crying at the finish line. Maybe he's like,
43:34
0 you're 1 tough, like, son of a
43:37
whatever, and I'm just, like,
43:39
I mean, like, I don't cry, but, like,
43:41
seeing him cry, like, how worried he was
43:44
is, like, oh my gosh.
43:46
But, no. I think a lot of it's
43:48
just like,
43:49
we're
43:50
lucky that we have the opportunity to, like...
43:55
Experience these kinds of, like, highs and lows
43:58
and, like, a controlled, like, it would say
44:00
safe setting.
44:02
You know, and it's just it is beautiful
44:05
to be able to, like, come out of
44:06
it and be, like, well, look,
44:08
you know, look what I did or look
44:10
what I accomplished. And I didn't give up
44:11
and, like, you know, it may not seem
44:14
like it's all fun in the moment. But,
44:16
like, you know, you go through your highs
44:17
and your lows, then it's...
44:19
Kind of, like, I mean, doing drugs. I
44:22
I don't do drugs, but, like, I would
44:24
imagine, like, with your endorsements and everything too,
44:26
you know? So
44:28
it's addict. It's just... It's really fun, and
44:31
you get to meet great people. Like, you
44:33
know, I've made a lot of friends at
44:35
Alt and just
44:38
ultra runners are all good people. Like, you
44:40
just have a lot of
44:41
unique, like, shared experiences. I, I'm met my
44:44
boyfriend,
44:44
running, Like, at a birthday run, we did
44:47
40 miles at Tahoe. So it's like, you
44:49
know, like,
44:50
stuff comes from that. So
44:54
from Yeah. I mean, that would be my
44:57
answer. It's just like a great way to
45:00
go through the highs and the lows and,
45:02
No. You're gonna be okay. Like, it's it's
45:04
gonna be over eventually. So
45:07
it makes... You can, like, channel that to
45:09
all areas the life too. Right? Like, I
45:11
feel like, I wouldn't be as hard of
45:13
a worker if I wasn't,
45:15
you know, putting myself in those uncomfortable problem
45:18
solving
45:19
situations. Like, in my free time. So...
45:21
I love that you met your boyfriend at
45:23
a 40 mile run,
45:25
like, group run.
45:27
In
45:28
Yeah. He didn't... For the record, he didn't
45:31
do the whole 40 miles, but he he
45:34
had a different race that morning.
45:36
And then he showed up halfway through within
45:39
and out for everyone. So everybody was like,
45:42
okay guy. This guy cool.
45:44
We'll let him hang out along.
45:47
He's feeding us.
45:48
Yeah. We were all starving at that point.
45:50
I think we're, like, 20 miles in, and
45:52
it was it was in Tahoe in November
45:55
and a snowstorm was, like, coming that night.
45:58
So it's just... I was miserable because I
46:00
hate the cold. I was, like, this is
46:02
bad.
46:03
But... No. It's was better to have, like,
46:05
good companies. So...
46:07
You live in the right place then. So
46:09
wait, did so does see live in Vegas
46:10
too?
46:11
Mh.
46:12
Okay. Was he already there or did he
46:14
move there to be with you? No. He
46:16
lived in reno.
46:18
So he to leave
46:20
the north
46:21
I'm down
46:22
So what are your biggest
46:24
goals from here on out? Like, obviously, the
46:27
short term goal right now is, like, said
46:28
you wanna win bad? You wanna have a
46:30
good race there, But, like, what are your
46:31
long term goals with the sport?
46:34
Yeah.
46:35
So You definitely, I... You know, I'd love
46:38
to
46:39
redeem myself at bad water and potentially pull
46:41
off a win at that. And then,
46:44
you know, the golden ticket thing. That seems
46:47
like that maybe the next
46:49
thing to chase in the immediate future.
46:53
And then,
46:54
yeah. I mean, I'm definitely not satisfied with
46:56
900 mile p. Either... Look, I think we
46:59
can do some work on that. And
47:03
I'd like to get closer to break in
47:05
15 and more in that range and just
47:07
see what's possible, you know? And, yeah. Just
47:10
continue to grow in the sport. I mean,
47:13
I feel like I've already came a long
47:15
way since my first 1 back in 20
47:17
19 and
47:19
you know, you just gotta see what works
47:21
for you and takes a lot of trial
47:23
and error to figure it all out. So
47:26
Yeah. 5 years, and the grand scheme of
47:28
things like, it is a lot of years,
47:30
but it's really not that many years. Of
47:33
hundred mile. I mean, in those 5 years,
47:35
you've packed in quite a bit, though. Mh.
47:38
Yeah.
47:39
It's taking it more seriously, I guess, if
47:41
you will, because there living a year I
47:43
did, like, 6 in a year, and that's
47:45
just, like, no elites are doing that. Like...
47:47
Yeah. And, you know,
47:49
the increase in my performance shows when I
47:52
kinda scale back on the whole. Like, we're
47:54
not gonna do 3 in a month. Like,
47:56
that's just crazy. Like, it seemed it was
47:58
fun, but, like, I'm not being, like, super
48:01
competitive at any of those 3. I'm just
48:03
surviving at that point. You know. So
48:06
What do you think you got out of
48:07
that though? Like,
48:09
why did you... Why do you think you
48:10
did that many so often and then, like,
48:12
what what did you gain from it?
48:15
So the real reason why I did all
48:17
3
48:18
the long answer was because, you know, these...
48:21
All these races now. They all have, like,
48:23
lotte.
48:24
Like, waitlist list, and it's just like, it's
48:26
not like, how it used to be where
48:28
you can just go do whatever race you
48:30
want. And, like, you know, everybody has there
48:32
they're, like, bucket list, races and, Cafe Crest,
48:35
Angels Stressed, and Lead bill were all on
48:38
the list. And then
48:40
I just they all do them at different
48:43
times too, like, when you have to, like,
48:45
enter the lottery or find out. So you
48:47
can't really, like,
48:48
totally strategically plan your whole seasons. It's all,
48:52
you know, at the mercy of whatever the
48:54
lottery decides. So
48:56
that year,
48:57
I entered Lead with friends,
48:59
like, as a group lottery, and that was
49:01
my third year doing it, but first year
49:04
as a group. And I never got in
49:06
the other 2. So I was, like, not
49:08
really counting on getting in, and I got
49:10
in. So I found that out over, like...
49:12
I think it was, like New Year's Eve.
49:14
And at that point,
49:15
I think this was a year after 20
49:17
20 and 20 21. There was a lot
49:19
of cancellations.
49:21
I had been...
49:22
On the Cascade crest waitlist list
49:25
rolled over twice or something, and totally forgot.
49:29
And then I was on the A waitlist
49:31
list,
49:32
got the email about that,
49:34
needed a hard rock qualifier, so I accepted.
49:37
Because I'm like, well, you know,
49:40
I might as well.
49:41
And then after that, I got up off
49:44
the waitlist list for Cascade.
49:46
And then I'm, like,
49:48
who knows when I'm gonna be able to
49:49
do these again?
49:51
And
49:52
everybody had these, like, grand slam or, like,
49:54
you know, the Sally did her, like, she's
49:57
was strong or, you know, like, all these,
49:59
like, crazy
50:01
whatever. So I'm like, what, why not just
50:03
do this thing? I'm gonna call it to
50:04
Seriously. I'm like, I'm gonna do all 3.
50:07
It's gonna be in the summer of 20
50:09
22 and
50:10
So I did it, and it was fun.
50:13
I mean, I I had a good time
50:14
with it. And I don't have any regrets.
50:16
I mean, I'd like to go back and
50:18
run a fast time at Led bill. I
50:19
think I could do that. And I'd like
50:21
to do the actual Ac course because it
50:23
was the out and back here, so that.
50:25
Was a little unfortunate, but your No. It
50:28
taught me a lot
50:30
you know, about sticking
50:32
through the tough times because, I mean,
50:35
you know, it's not really easy to ask
50:37
your body to do that
50:39
2 weeks out from each 1. And...
50:43
Yeah.
50:44
That was that was a fun summer.
50:47
I had some, like, help stuff going on
50:49
at that point too. So my mind wasn't,
50:51
like, a hundred percent where it needed to
50:53
be, but
50:54
good distraction, I guess, at the Alt. So...
50:59
And you got through whatever that was okay,
51:01
and everything's fine.
51:02
Yep. Yep. No. It's just women's health type
51:06
stuff fun fun stuff where you're,
51:09
you know, I don't know. It's just...
51:11
Your girls spun sometimes.
51:13
0I0I
51:15
hear you. I've I've gotten all the parts
51:17
removed at this point. So I feel it.
51:21
Yeah.
51:21
Okay. That's why I lost the crew member.
51:24
1 of them has that surgery for that
51:26
reason as well, and it's... From last year,
51:29
you know, and it's just, like, such a
51:31
bummer. I mean, as happened with me, I'd
51:33
have part of my Ce removed.
51:35
And I had found out about it, like,
51:37
right before 1 of the hundreds. And then
51:39
Yeah. I had to wait, like, 6 months
51:40
to do it. So that was that was
51:42
cool. But
51:44
anyway, That was good.
51:46
Yeah. It's
51:48
it's can be emotional too.
51:50
It is, and it's scary because, like, you
51:53
know, they just call you, and they tell
51:55
you, like, your test results, and they're just,
51:57
like, the person who's calling you doesn't really
52:00
know what they're talking about. They don't really
52:02
care,
52:03
they just drop this bomb on you, and
52:05
then they're like, oh, we'll have to call
52:07
you back to schedule your procedure blah blah
52:09
Blah. You're like, am I dying? Like, what's...
52:11
Going on, you know, I'd like here. So
52:15
I don't know. I mean, for me, it
52:16
was, like, I didn't have cancer, but it
52:18
was, like, what's 1 step away from having
52:21
cancer. So was pretty scary, like, being
52:24
30... Like, early thirties and being, like, what
52:26
the heck. And then you're at the
52:28
lady doctor and all these people are happy
52:30
that are, like, having babies and stuff. And
52:32
you're like, I'm just sad. Like,
52:35
I'm not here for something happy. You,
52:38
So
52:39
anyway... Can we think about that at the
52:41
Ob g way, like,
52:43
the range of...
52:45
Patients that are in that... Emotions?
52:48
Yeah. You've got like people having miscarriage, people
52:51
about to give birth, people who might have
52:53
a lump in their breasts or, you know,
52:55
like all these different
52:57
situations just sitting in that waiting room, and
52:58
you have no idea what anybody else is
53:00
there for unless, of course, they're like super
53:02
pregnant.
53:03
The right.
53:04
You know, But but you didn't even know,
53:06
like what the status of that is, you
53:08
know, it's like, it's such a wild
53:10
really a wild place to be.
53:13
That's pretty wild to me that you were
53:15
going through all that
53:17
amidst
53:18
running all those hundreds. Like,
53:20
I know you said good distraction, but sometimes
53:22
when I'm in those, like, fearful moments with
53:24
health. I like can't pull myself up to
53:27
do anything and the fact that you were,
53:29
like, just carrying on and continuing to run
53:31
is really
53:33
impressive. I don't know if that's the right
53:34
word.
53:35
Well,
53:37
for the record,
53:38
the first 1 was Angels crest, and I
53:41
was a mess. Like, I was like, crying
53:43
the whole way. To 2 right wood just
53:46
because I was like, you know, I don't
53:48
know. The conclusion I had the night before
53:50
that... Well, I had
53:52
Had drank the day before the race tubes.
53:54
I was pretty upset, But Yeah. The night
53:56
before I'm like, you know what? I'm not
53:57
scared of running a hundred mile, but I
53:59
am scared of dying. So
54:01
Yeah.
54:02
I think that was just tough for me.
54:06
But, yeah. I mean,
54:08
I dealt with that up until...
54:10
I had just more clearer
54:12
answers, and, yeah. It's hard. It's hard to
54:14
get in your head. And, I mean, getting
54:16
through these hundreds is not hard. Because you,
54:19
like, do it so much. You know you're
54:21
gonna be okay most time, but, like, you
54:23
know,
54:24
help the scary. Because this just, like, this
54:26
is out of my control. Like, this is
54:28
not something I have any power over, and
54:30
it makes you feel very
54:32
powerless,
54:33
I guess. So
54:35
yeah. It was tough. This is tough. This
54:37
time for sure. Yeah.
54:40
Alright. What is something professionally or personally you
54:42
would like to do? Well, we've kinda covered
54:44
this, but... This can be outside of running
54:46
to, but
54:47
I always wrap up with this question. What
54:49
is something
54:50
professionally or personally you'd like to do that
54:52
you haven't done yet. And, definitely, I'd like
54:54
to travel more. I mean, I feel like
54:56
20 20 kinda, like, put a damper on
54:59
everything with that. Like, I've
55:01
you know, and not just with racing and
55:04
running either. Like, I used to kinda go
55:06
out of the country every year in, like,
55:07
see new places, but,
55:09
my passport
55:11
is now expired. And I need to renew
55:13
it.
55:14
Yeah. So just see more things then
55:17
I need to probably to focus on getting
55:19
home more too, like, now that I have
55:21
more of a regular
55:22
schedule just because, you know, my parents are
55:24
getting older and everything.
55:27
Yeah. And I've I mean,
55:29
other than trying to just
55:31
improve my running and
55:34
probably advance in my career too. Like, I
55:37
actually... You know, I'm like, happy with what
55:39
I'm doing at this point, and I feel
55:40
like there's opportunity for growth and with Tesla
55:44
I just didn't feel that way. It I
55:45
was very, like, stagnant. So,
55:48
yeah. I'm excited. I'm excited for what's to
55:51
come. So
55:52
will your dad come back to bad water?
55:55
Oh,
55:56
he can't this year because actually, he's...
56:00
Been diagnosed with cancer, so he's gonna be
56:02
going through
56:04
radiation, I think right around the same time.
56:06
So
56:07
he would, if he could, but I don't
56:10
think you're spirit. I don't think he can.
56:11
Yeah. I know as a bummer because I
56:14
think he really wanted to go, but I
56:16
like no. You gotta focus on this and
56:18
being in a hundred and 20 degree. He
56:20
is not gonna no for you right now.
56:22
So
56:23
you can tell them you're gonna feel and
56:25
look a lot better than you did last
56:26
year.
56:28
We'll have to get lots of photos and
56:29
give lots of updates. Yeah. You know? Look,
56:32
this is actually fun dad. Look, I don't
56:34
look dead.
56:37
No. Everybody at the finish was like, oh
56:39
my god. I'm like, I know. I feel
56:41
like that. Like, you don't need to tell
56:42
me. Like, I I know with that I
56:44
feel or then I looked that way. So
56:46
I think it's gonna go so much better.
56:48
I'm excited to... Follow and see how you
56:50
do. Thanks. Yeah. I'm excited to get it
56:53
get it going
56:54
Doing right around the corner. So...
56:57
Do you have a best most recent book
56:59
you've read? I can't imagine you have much
57:01
time to read?
57:04
I
57:05
haven't been reading too much. I did get
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that book by,
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I'm forgetting the name, but it's Tommy Ribs
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wife. Do you know what book I'm talking
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about? Yeah. Is it stuff?
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I...
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You know a book I'm talking about. So
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I started that book. And I did think
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it was very good, and I need to
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finish it. I just got lazy. And maybe
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during day for a week. I'll pick it
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up. Book I'll, continue. But, no. I was
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a huge Tommy Rogue fan, and I, like,
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following her too. So when I saw that
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come out and had to get it.
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Yeah. Her book is called
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everything all at once.
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Yes. There you go That's it. Yeah. It
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movie called that too not related. But Yeah
57:49
related
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It wasn't related to her book, but I
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I... That's... I don't know. I couldn't think
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of it. Is something I wanted to face
57:56
stars but, like, no. It's at the underneath
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of it. So, yeah. You're right. You're right.
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Yeah. She's a beautiful writer. She's really, really
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good at that.
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Think what's your last message to leave with
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our audience?
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I guess I would just say, like, you
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know,
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and mean, I'm assuming it's primarily runners. There
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listening.
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Yeah. If you have goals, just keep chasing
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after your goals.
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I mean, you gotta start somewhere. And, I
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mean, that's the only way I've gotten better
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is, like, believing in yourself and, you know,
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setting the bar higher and
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just...
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Keep keep at it. Keep it up, and
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I don't know. Stay strong.
58:35
Thanks so much for being here. Everybody. Thanks
58:37
Sierra for coming on the podcast.
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You all can find Sierra on Instagram. She
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is s D over there. I'm Lindsay Hi
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626.
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I'd love to connect with you. As well,
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you can learn more about this podcast and
58:52
all the shows our network, including the pretty
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brand new podcast, the trail network podcast hosted
58:59
by 4 amazing than ultra runners themselves. They've
59:02
got some great Western states content that they've
59:05
been putting out. So go check them out
59:06
They're called the trail Network podcast.
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Thanks for being here, and we'll see you
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next week, on I'll have another.