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Dying, Coming Back, and Discovering What Cannot Be Destroyed 💥 Meet The Double Phoenix Kristin Dwan · Awakening with Natalie Namaste

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: I could hear the surgery and them talking about me and blood pressure and this and that.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I just remember there being a decision made of like, no, you're not ready.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_01: You're not ready.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_01: You need to be down there.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_01: And there was part of me that was like, no.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_01: Because I knew what was down there.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_01: I knew the pain that was down there.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_01: I knew the struggle that was happening.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: But I got put back in my body.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't look at any of this as like, oh, fire ruined me because it did not.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_01: I am a double phoenix.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have so much more strength than I ever would have if fire never came into my life.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you would have told me I'd lose everything to fire twice in one lifetime, I'd be like, what?
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: What are you talking about?
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_01: Who does that?
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_01: And then my mom passed away two months after the fire.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: So 2025 was like hitting me emotionally.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_02: Instead of focusing on the burn and the pain and everything, you discovered what cannot burn.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_01: The one thing that didn't burn is my connection to Reiki, to my ancestors, and to the elements.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_01: And that's all I needed and breath to live.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_02: I'm so excited for this conversation.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've been sitting here today thinking, oh wow, this one's going to be so deep and very supportive because we are human and we experience physical pain, emotional pain, spiritual pain, um, mental pain, and we grow and learn so much through it, and there's such blessings inside, like huge expansion and quantum leaping happens when we go through things.
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  SPEAKER_02: So my guest today is Kristen Dwan, and she's just someone who is has gone through it and come out the other end as a massive teacher and inspirer, and we're gonna go deep.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_02: And so um I also want to share that Kristen and I are writing the Way of the Initiate book, which we're there's a few of us um writing this book together, which is gonna be available on the 23rd of September.
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  SPEAKER_02: So please keep a lookout on my YouTube channel or my emails that I send out or Instagram because I'll make sure that it's everywhere so that you know where to get your copy.
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  SPEAKER_02: And Kristen, thank you for coming and spending this time with us to enlighten us and um give us some deep tools.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for having me.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: I really appreciate it.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's wonderful.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you've got quite an incredible journey um, dying and coming back to life, and um not just one incredible experience, but it's a multiple.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I would I I know what happens to my viewers and listeners when they hear of what a human being goes through and how powerful we are.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_02: So please share your your journey with us.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, so um the near-death experience happened in 1998.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: I fell asleep with a candle burning.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_01: Learn from me, do not ever do that, or have it like in a very safe space.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you know, I I fell asleep, and the next thing I know, I wake up and my whole room is in complete flames.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_01: I had to run through a wall of flames barefoot to save my life, and ended up in a burn ward for a month with their degree burns over 30% of my body.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: And before that happened, I I had a good spiritual way about myself, but I didn't have a practice.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_01: And and there was a lot of like, I felt very stuck.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: So actually, what started the the fire was a road opening candle that I burnt.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_01: So you have to be very careful with your intentions, not only just the fire part of the candles, but the intentions that you set too, because I didn't really set the intentions in a way of like, it will be in grace and ease.
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  SPEAKER_01: I just said I'm done with how my life is.
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  SPEAKER_01: I need, I need to move forward.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: So I did move forward.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_01: 100% moved forward.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it was through a lot of pain, it was through a lot of agony.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I will say it's all worth it because in that burn ward is when what what I later found to be Reiki, I didn't know what Reiki was in the 90s, but um, this energy came in and helped me with my third-degree burns, helped my um my skin grafting surgeries, you know, um heal more.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_01: And and what what ended up happening was the I had multiple skin grafting surgeries.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: The first one, whatever they put me under with, my heart stopped.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_01: So that was the near-death, like literal near-death experience where they had to resuscitate me.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_01: And after that, when I came back into my body, like I I could hear the surgery and them talking about me and blood pressure and this and that.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I just remember there being a decision made of like, no, you're not ready.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_01: You're not ready, you need to be down there.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_01: And there was part of me that was like, no, because I knew what was down there.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_01: I knew the pain that was down there, I knew the struggle that was happening, but I got put back in my body, and I remember feeling like the the hit of my body, like like being back in the body.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_01: And it was very different, like emotionally.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: I was excited to get, you know, to heal.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_01: I was excited to write my first book, Baptism by Flame.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_01: I was excited to start a band, like I was excited to live.
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  SPEAKER_01: Whereas before I felt so stuck and like I almost just wanted life to end, you know what I mean?
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_01: And it took losing my life and and and almost battling to come back, you know, for me to really realize what a gift this life is in in all areas, right?
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's not just about when I do this, my life will be a gift.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's like even when I have nothing, even when I'm struggling, my life is a gift, and I and I have a purpose for being here.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_02: When you were like in the near-death experience, a lot of people who have NDEs, like I I had one and I went to the a higher frequency realm with the angels, and I learned how to work with color and frequency and light to heal the body.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_02: And do you have any like memories or um yeah, memories of of being out of the the third dimension and being in another realm?
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't get a lot of visuals.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: It sounds like you had some beautiful visuals, that's amazing.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: Mine were more energetic and feelings and and hearing.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_01: And and there was definitely like a light.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_01: I do remember a light, and that was where the decision was made of like, nope, you're not, you're not coming here.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_01: You're not ready.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_01: We're in you all the time, but you're going back down to earth, you know.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I do remember that, you know, but I didn't see like angel.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_01: I I wish that would have been amazing.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_01: But mine was more like feelings, right?
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like, like when when they resuscitated me when I woke up, yeah, my body felt like I mean, skin grafting is insane, you know.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's so I felt a lot of pain.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna say like I felt amazing yet energetically, emotionally, like I was excited for life.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: Whereas, you know, the whole 23 years before that, not so excited with life because a lot of stuff happened in the in this lifetime to kind of like you know beat me down a bit, you know.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: So that was where the the decision came to burn that candle because I was done with how life was.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't realize I was gonna burn a house down with the candle and end up in a burn ward, but here we are.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, I mean, that's powerful.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_02: The intention behind lighting a candle.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's interesting.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_02: I don't light candles for every podcast episode, and I didn't actually I know like we had spoken about our different experiences when we met in the group, but I wasn't thinking that.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_02: I just I was just a guided today.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, light the candle and keep it lit throughout today.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_02: So that's fascinating as well.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_02: That energy is here.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_01: Fire is an amazing teacher.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, that that tea that that that fire, that class, taught me, you know, that life is a gift.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_01: And it it also showed me that energy is a huge healer.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, the the first I'd say week after the initial skin grafts, the skin grafts weren't taking.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_01: So I had to keep getting skin graft, you know, surgeries and they they hurt, you know.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like to my doctor, like, what's happening?
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why won't this heal?
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: And he's like, well, you know, first they had to, they they tried using cadaver skin on me, so skin from another, you know, person put on my wounds, and that didn't work.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_01: So then they had to take autografting, which is where they took good skin from my legs and put it on my feet and on my arms and everywhere that that I was burnt.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: That was even more pain, right?
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's not just the burns you're dealing with, it's it's where they peel your skin off, basically, right?
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: So there's a lot of like physical pain happening.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I I there was this one point where he said, We're gonna need to do one more.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: This would have been would have been the third.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I I had a dark night of the soul within the dark night of the soul, right?
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: Of like, why did I choose to come back if it's just this like torture, you know, it just felt like torture with all these graphs.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_01: And so I asked what what I believe to be the universe, you know, help.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I know I'm strong.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: I know that I came back for a reason, but you gotta help me here, because this this sucks, you know.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: And at that point, I felt this energy come come into my room and and lift me up out of my body again.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_01: And this time it it it was I was very aware, I wasn't seeing other things other than the hospital room, but I was I felt, I was feeling so much love.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_01: I was feeling like I was being held by the universe.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_01: The pain was gone because I was out of my body and I was like floating.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: And then it started, and I don't know how long.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: It could have been five seconds, it could have been five hours, like time just went away at that point.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: And I do remember at one at one point, you know, starting to come back to the body, and there was a little bit of fear because I was like, I know what's down there, I don't want that again.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: But I ended up, you know, hitting my body again.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm not even kidding, like 90% of the pain was gone.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: Now I'm talking like my feet were burnt, the bottoms of my feet, my hands were gnarled and and I couldn't write, you know, like it was just so much, and plus the the grafting donor sites, they call them, where they took my good skin from my thighs, like you know, half my body had pain.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: And I was able to get up, walk on those burnt feet, and go to the the little bathroom I had there.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: And when you're in a burn ward, you don't get to like take a shower and do the normal thing.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_01: So, like my hair was like a rat's nest, obviously, no makeup, you know, nothing.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: I was just fighting for life, you know.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: And yet, even though I looked a mess, I could see the fire in my eyes when I looked in the little, you know, uh mirror.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_01: And it was the first time I had ever felt like love for myself, you know, because in your 20s, it's we don't find that, or I don't know, I didn't find that until this happened and I had to kind of fight for my self-love.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you're kind of looking at yourself, oh, this is bad and that's bad, and you know.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_01: So there was 23 years of that after this like out-of-body experience, you know, and this this energy.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: I had love for myself.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was even more excited for life.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_01: And physically the pain was gone.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: And two days later, the surgeon came in, the the one who told me, like, we're gonna have to do another one because you know the graphs aren't taking.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_01: And he looked at my skin and he's like, wow, you're really turning a corner.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: You're you're gonna be out of here this week, right?
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: So, whatever that energy was that came in really helped, you know.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: I needed the medical procedures too.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not the person who's like, oh, just reiki your stuff away.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: You know, no.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_01: But the having the the energetic force of of the universe with you, you know, helping you East meets West equals best, right?
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like Eastern medicine, universal medicine, and and western medicine, you know, putting those all together, that is, I believe, what got me out of the burn ward in half the time, you know, that that the doctor was saying.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, like I said, I didn't know what Reiki was, so I didn't call it Reiki at that point.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: This was the 90s.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_01: This was before Google and before, you know, all of that stuff was so easy to find.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: You had to really go on a journey to find those kind of things.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_01: And so I went to um my local uh, you know, metaphysical bookstores and spiritual bookstores, and Google was like a wall of flyers where you would just like read the flyers and write down the numbers.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_01: This is even before phones, right?
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: And so I wrote down all the different energy practitioners I found, you know, like angel energy and then Reiki.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's the first time I read the word Reiki, and I was like, what's that?
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: And so I went to shamans, I went to all of these different crystal healers, and it was my first Reiki session that felt the most similar to that energy that happened to me in the burn ward.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: And that was when I decided, you know, in 1998, like it is I I'm gonna become a Reiki master, I'm gonna learn it, I'm gonna share it, I'm gonna write a book about it.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what got me started on my path on the healing woods of helping people with with energy work and and just continuing the help I was doing before with like tarot and doing readings and things like that.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: But Reiki gave me a practice, right?
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: It it took me from this like, oh, willy-nilly, I'm just doing a bunch of spiritual stuff and lighting candles, to okay, now I've got a practice.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna I'm gonna learn something, I'm gonna get more grounded within it.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_02: And so for me, I um through my near-death experience, I agree about like the East meets west because I thank you to all the doctors and nurses.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like they they really helped my physical body while I was learning how to use the energy to heal my body, and I worked with color and frequency and light, so the two together were incredible.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then uh also what you like they I I want to go into like pain because recently someone in my community they asked me a question, they said um something like it's that they find it easy to kind of be able to observe thoughts and dissolve thoughts, but they find it challenging to be to remain equanimous, to remain balanced or centered, and and just be able to witness pain and and transform it.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_02: So I would love for you to share like the different ways in which you um teach or tools that you use to help anyone who might be suffering right now with physical pain.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: I will say definitely, I'm gonna say again the East Meast West, right?
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like I never tell somebody I'm gonna Reiki away your pain or Reiki away your cancer, right?
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like I also went on cancer journey.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: I ended up doing, you know, surgeries that I needed to do for that, as well as the Reiki, as well as the hypnotherapy, like getting the mind, you know, um focused on what you want instead of what you're going through, right?
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: That's a big part of it too.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I would say the the the pillars, the two pillars that got me through the the physical pain of you know learning how to walk again on burnt feet and you know, um getting through the cancer journey and coming out stronger, you know, all of these things, it was energy, mindset.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: And so Reiki, hypnotherapy.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: And those, those, you know, just working with your mind.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like even when you're in pain, even when you're in physical pain, and I know it's hard.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've had times where my back went completely out.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: And when your back is out, everything might as well be out because you can't function physically.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: But I would go within and go and use the mind and to and you know, um, the tools I have is self-hypnosis, and I can help people in hypnosis as well.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: But when it's me, it's it's self-hypnosis or self-reiki.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I use those two tools to do Reiki on myself as I'm listening to, you know, hypnosis or doing NLP visualizations in my head.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I will say, you know, once I started bringing in the subconscious work, you know, the Reiki started in the late 90s.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_01: So I've been doing that, you know, can't even do math now, 20 something years.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the hypnosis came in later.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: It came in about 10 years later.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: And so putting the two together for me was what really helped started helping the physical stuff.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: That the energetic work helped me be more grounded within whatever was happening.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: And it would lessen it, I will say, it will, it would lessen it.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: But when you've got like a slipped disc or you know, something like really physical happening, it's it's also telling your body, you know, your brain, your subconscious, tells your body what to do.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: As far as even feeling pain or or healing something that's that's you know needs to be shifted, or or just getting getting yourself into a space of of rest and release and and healing instead of fire or flight.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like those things are so important to even allow this body systems to do what it's built to do to make you feel good and and limber and and you know not in pain.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_01: So um, I feel like that was a very long answer, but I will I will say energy work mixed in with with the subconscious work.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: Those those are my tools.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're they're such good tools because Reiki rays universal and key is energy, yeah, and it brings in the highest frequency light into the body.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and what makes it unique, because of course anyone can channel light because we are light, but Reiki is um it's an ancient practice that was rediscovered in Japan um by Dr.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: Mikau Yosui, and you receive an attunement which opens your channel even more so you can bring in more light.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like I teach Reiki, I love Reiki.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: It's like I'm like, oh my gosh, this is the biggest tool for anyone because you can lay your hands on your body, and this powerful light flows and brings energy to that area and diffuses and clears deep patterns.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's powerful.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_02: And then you also talk about hypnotherapy.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, I don't teach or practice hypnotherapy, but I deeply understand the mind, I know how powerful it is, and um to be able to work with the mind.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_02: So sometimes you've got mind-meeting mind, but you don't believe in what you're saying.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_02: So, for example, you could have like you're in absolute pain, and then you're like, Oh, I'm just gonna say an affirmation, I am happy, I am feeling good, but you don't believe it.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_02: So it doesn't work, it doesn't work, but when you go to deeper parts of working with the mind, so you instead of resisting and trying to like put a band-aid over a gushing wound, you you go, okay, hold on.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_02: I'm in pain, I'm gonna go into that pain, I'm gonna stop labeling it as pain, I'm gonna label it as my body communicating, and I'm gonna go into it.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_02: So you go into that area in your body, you become very present, conscious, and that's where the subconscious, like the deeper patterns start to dissolve.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: And and you often talk about like the importance of working with the subconscious mind, and like so why is subconscious healing such such a big and important part of transformation?
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: And like what starts to happen when we dissolve it at this layer, at this level.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: So your subconscious mind is 95% of your brain power, right?
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: So the I am safe, I am abundant, you know, saying those things, that's using 5% of your brain power.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: And it feels good, it sounds good, it's like, yay, I'm doing a thing, you know, like like, but when we've got 95% of your mind, aka your inner child, because it's created between the years of zero and eight years old.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: You know, what were you taught about love?
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: What were you taught about yourself?
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: Did you see your parents struggling with money or arguing or saying that money doesn't grow on trees?
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: Even though you say you're abundant and want to make a million dollars in your 40s, 50s, 60s, that little five-year-old is like, but wait, money doesn't grow on trees.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: And dad was really stressed out at work.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: I never got to see him.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: That money thing sucks.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want it, right?
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: So we create these like these beliefs, these, these, these life-driving beliefs in childhood about ourselves, love.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: How are we?
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: We, you know, did we feel that we could like shine and and be as loud as we wanted to and speak our mind, or were we told children should, you know, what's the saying, be seen and not heard, right?
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's like parents that they try their best, and I and I know that they do their best.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like if they realize How much of the inner belief system is created between zero and eight, they would be a lot more careful with what they teach their children.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: Because I am working with people who are in their 50s, 60s, 70s and were unraveling things that they learned when they were five that they've carried around all those decades, right?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: And once you get the subconscious mind on board with the belief that it's safe to have that money, it's safe to be seen and heard.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that not even just about deserving, it's about safety.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_01: Because the subconscious mind is not just sitting there to get in the way of things.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's not like it's being mean.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's making sure that you're alive.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's making sure that your heart's beating, that you're breathing, that your blood is pumping through your veins, that your eyes are blinking.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like you're not thinking of those things consciously, but the brain is in charge of that.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: And so if the brain hears you have a thought of, like, oh, I want to make more money, or I want to write this book and be heard, right?
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like you and I just did, then that's when it's like the 5%'s like, yay, that sounds really great.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: But then the 95% is like, yeah, but what about when you were eight and like you tripped in front of the class and everybody laughed at you and you tried to like read a sentence?
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: You know, then it's like, no, we can't, we can't be seen, we can't be heard, right?
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: So it's about reparenting and reworking that part of your brain to be 100% on board with the the things that you're consciously deciding for yourself.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: That's when the shifts happen, that's when like all the doors open.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_02: And how do you get it on board?
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: Well, uh the hypnosis, you know, and here's the thing a lot of people think, like, oh, I don't know if it'll work on me.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_01: We all get hypnotized every single day, literally every single day.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: Have you ever been driving and you get to your destination, especially home?
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: Because we kind of go into hypnosis during driving, especially on a route that we know really well, and you're like, I don't remember stopping, I don't remember turning, you know, you just you're you're at your destination.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: Or have you ever just been driving on the freeway and and you're just an autopilot in hypnosis and you miss your exit?
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, oh my gosh, gotta get off and go back, right?
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_01: Then you become conscious about it.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: Also, scrolling, right?
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like, just have you ever picked up your phone and then you know, half an hour later, it's like, oh my God, it felt like two minutes, right?
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: These are all ways in which we are being hypnotized.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: And so why not use that state of the brain that that we go in and out of all day to actually plant intentions and learn how to access that area so you can put in the seeds that you want, not just the things that are randomly happening around you.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and also in that state, it's like the the theta brain waves, it's like it's deeper brain waves, and you you open and it is, you know.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_02: I see it like this: there's an iceberg at the tip of the iceberg is the 5% of the mind that thinks, and then underneath is all of the rest of the mind.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's why it's like subconscious, it's like deep, and then it's layered.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_02: So, like for me, I use um like meditation or awareness to to dissolve the deeper patterns.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm just constantly aware.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: So, if my mind brings in uh a fear or a worry, I'm me, consciousness, I'm aware of it straight away, and I'm like, ah, okay, that's come from deep down up to the surface.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: I recognize you, but I don't believe you, so I don't feed the light of my awareness to these patterns, and those patterns just dissolve, dissolve, dissolve, and then there's more spaciousness in in the mind, and you feel so free.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_02: So um, it's really worthwhile doing this work, like being aware and um being conscious, living consciously, so that you're not acting or responding from your thinking mind.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_02: You're not identifying and attaching to just 5% of you.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_02: There's so much more to us.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_02: We are we are this infinite light, this beautiful consciousness.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_02: We're we're the creator of our reality.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_02: Why are we only creating with 5%?
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_02: There's the rest of us we can create with, and so yeah, it's worth going deeper and um and and and I actually find that when I have pain in the body or like a pulsing or pressure.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_02: In the past, I'd be oh no, what's this?
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_02: Now I'm like, oh, opportunity for me to be present, and I bring all awareness, including that thinking mind that would normally like to think.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_02: I say, come on.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_02: And we go into that area of the body and we dive into it, and I have the most hugest transformations happening.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, I I really recommend this for everyone because we're not here to suffer, but we can't, but when we do suffer, it's an opportunity.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's a it's like the biggest opportunity to dissolve patterns that have been with us from zero to eight, like patterns that we might not even realize because we're so identified with them.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_02: And also past lives, like some of the bigger, deeper pains that we go through our past lives coming up to the surface and clearing out as well.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_02: You with the fire, you must have been dissolving.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I feel like multiple past lives were healing and dissolving from that time.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I had two fires, right?
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_01: So that was just the beginning.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_01: 1998 was just the beginning.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I also do Akashic Records work, and so I did a lot of deep dives into, you know, fire for myself, obviously.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: My this lifetime, my first word was hot because I got burnt, right?
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: So fire as an element and a teacher, it's not like I don't look at any of this as like, oh, fire ruined me because it did not.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: I am a double phoenix.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: I have so much more strength than I ever would have if fire never, you know, came into my life.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: So, so 1998 was the fire we just talked about.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: So then last year, 2025.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: If you would have told me I'd lose everything to fire twice in one lifetime, I'd be like, what?
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: What are you talking about?
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: Who does that?
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_01: But 2025, January.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_01: This is what's interesting too.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: I I I had a ritual candle burning very safely in my in my fireplace, right?
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: And so I started it.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_01: It was a seven-day candle.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_01: I started it and you know, bringing in abundance, bringing in, you know, all the things I wanted, you know.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: That that's a ritual I do.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like I put, I have a theme of the year instead of giving myself this list of things to do, like, you know, New Year's resolutions, I just put a theme.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_01: And so the theme of 2025 was release and peace.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_01: And so my release and peace candle was burning in my hearth very, very safely.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_01: And on the seventh day, January 7th, there was a huge wildfire in Altadena, which was the town that I lived in.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_01: And it started up in the hills, and there were 100 mile-an-hour winds, and those 100 mile-an-hour winds took that that wildfire all the way through the the town.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: And like I think 9,000 buildings were were burnt, you know, that one night.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: So my building was one of those.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, again, I didn't have any physical pain.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't get burnt.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: I got out, I got my cats out, I got all my important paperwork out.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like, because I think of the lesson I learned with the first fire, I'm like, I'm not gonna learn that again.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like, like I already know, I'm getting out of here.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: And so within like half an hour of the fire, I just knew.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_01: I just knew something was telling me, go, you know, and so I went.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: And so I was safe as far as physical pain goes.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: But it's like losing a whole community.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: Lose, like, like, you know, there's there's something about, you know, moving is one thing, you're no longer in the community, but at least you could visit the community or see the old houses that you used to live in or hang out in, or the trails you used to walk on, right?
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like for me, nature is a big thing.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's why I called my practice the healing woods, because I heal when I'm in nature.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I had these beautiful trails that I loved up in the hills, and it's all gone, it's all burnt.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: And so that for me was just the loss of a whole community.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't about my stuff.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I know how to like rise from the ashes of losing stuff.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care about stuff, like I really don't.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's the the the community that the safe spaces that I had created for 30 years of living in Altadena.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: Here's the other interesting thing.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: The fire, you know, the first fire happened in '98.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: I moved into Altadena, and then I left because of fire.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_01: So my whole time living in that space was like bookended by these these two fires, you know.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_01: And then my mom passed away two months after the fire.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_01: So 2025 was like hitting me emotionally, like the pain.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: And as you know, when we have you know emotional pain, it starts to hit us physically, right?
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I had like physical issues going on, emotional issues, just like grief, you know, like all of these things piled on on one on top of each other for basically all of 2025.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_01: And the only thing that really got me through, again, were my pillars, right?
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: I did a lot of self-hypnosis, I did a lot of Reiki, I also received a lot.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's one thing to do it for yourself, but when you're in that much grief and like you're that, like, like you just need to receive.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm strong, but it's it's stronger when I receive when I'm at at that level, right?
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_01: And so um I did that plus ritual.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_01: And that was like my whole, I I I swear, people are like, why are you not in a mental ward with all of that happening at once?
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_01: And it's because I I hooked into something bigger than than the little human that I am on this on this planet.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like I hooked into my ancestors, I hooked into the universe, I hooked into universal light energy, like anything that I could that was bigger than me, and also doing little things on the earthly realm, like like planting a little garden of hope, you know, or being with animals, you know, like like these little rituals that that you can do for free outside your house, or finding little things inside your house.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: And the the the habit, like ritual becomes a habit.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: And when you're doing a habit instead of worrying or doubting yourself or you know, just laying in bed crying.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I did a lot of laying in bed crying, I'm not gonna lie, but I did Reiki while I was crying.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: So I always like put in some of the light even in the dark places.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but ritual was really what like gave me the the the fire to the spark to to get up and go and and get my life back on on track because it's a lot to lose a parent, a whole community, and all your stuff, and feel like just talk about ego death.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: It was like a life death again without having to be resuscitated.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_01: I had to resuscitate myself using ritual, you know.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_02: Oh wow, yeah, that's so different to the physical.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_02: This was the this was the emotional, like the deep emotions of the heart.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_02: And you said something about fire, like it being the element in which you're learning through here on earth, and I find that fascinating because because each one of us has one or maybe two elements that are stronger in their system, which we're learning through.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_02: So we've got fire, earth, water, and air, and then space, but space is is is the oneness, is the ether, is is is the all, it's with everyone all the time.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: So I call it spirit, yeah.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's spirit, and so uh but but the other are those elements, so like fire is is your element in which you're learning during this lifetime, and like there's so much that fire can do, it can transform, burn, clear, also it can ignite the spark, the creativity.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like what else, what else does fire bring?
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_02: And then let's chat about the other elements as well, because then everyone is listening and watching, you can um start to realize which elements or elements, because there might be two, that are more dominant in your life and which you're learning through.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, fire for me.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's it's the light in the dark too.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's like finding that spark within you in the deepest, darkest times, and just knowing that it's there, trusting that it's there, and and and helping to ignite, I help people ignite theirs and and and fan it for them when they're like, I don't know, I don't even know what I want, or you know, people get in that that space of like not even knowing what's possible for themselves.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: They they can't even like dream, you know.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_01: And so that's part of what I love to do.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, I call myself a shadow worker because I'm working within within the subconscious, I'm working, you know, um in the deep depths with people.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: And yes, I'm light too, but but I I feel like I'm I'm okay.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: I I'm not afraid to go to the shadow because I lived there for so long.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: And and that's just where I'm where I'm drawn.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like our our shadow has so much power.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: And the light is is wonderfully amazing power.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: But when we really like like just hug and hold on to those parts of ourselves, you know, um, the shadow parts, that's when the real like just power starts coming in, you know.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so so yeah, fire.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_01: And then, you know, with with earth, you know, obviously earth is a big thing for me, the healing woods.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_01: So I'd say if I had to choose two, it'd be fire first and then earth.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: And really what I did with earth, redwood trees are are huge for me.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like I spend a month in the redwoods.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna be heading out there in September.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_01: I cannot wait to just immerse myself in the woods and just being with those trees, like hugging them, taking naps inside of the holes, the huge holes that they have inside of them.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but when I can't have the redwood forest, I have my backyard, right?
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_01: And so I would take seeds and and and just like set an intention with the seeds, like hold the seeds in my hand, maybe blow on them, blow my intention into them of like, you know, my body is strong, I am happy, I am capable, whatever, whatever your intention is.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, as these seeds grow, so does that thing money, love, whatever it is.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, in grief, like like dragging myself out there to like do this ritual, you know, I planted these seeds in like like grief and just feeling like overwhelmed and like not having any strength, or even questioning at times, like, is there even any magic left in me?
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was going through some of that stuff, like especially after my mom died, right?
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's just like what universe, you know.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_01: But even though I, you know, I planted those in in that dark place, you know, now a year later I go out into my garden.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, it's erupted in so much beauty.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_01: And and I actually love this garden that I've created more than any garden I created in strength, because this is the grief.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_01: This is a grief, you know, alchemizing into something beautiful, you know.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_01: So that's that's an easy way you can do some earth magic is just like planting intentions with seeds, or even if you're not a gardener and you feel like you have a black thumb, even just picking up a rock from outside and and you know, stating the purpose of that rock, like this is my rock to ground myself, or this is my rock to protect me.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you could go get a crystal if you want, but I'm my thing that I want to like teach people because losing everything I have, you know, two times in life, sometimes you don't have all your crystals.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes, you know, maybe there's not going to be anything around you, but the earth is always there for you.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_01: You could pick up a stick, you could pick up a rock, right?
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_01: And and use these as your healing tools just with that intention and putting that energy into them.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, water, I see that beautiful water painting that you have behind you, right?
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: The ocean is my my go-to.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm lucky enough to live, you know, um an hour drive from the ocean.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_01: If you don't have the ocean next to you, you could it could be a river, it could be a lake, you know, but bodies of water are so good, like like to purify, to cleanse, emotional healing, emotional work, releasing, right?
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_01: Releasing things into the water, um, breath, you know, that the breath work, just remembering to breathe.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: As humans, we can't live too long without breath, right?
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_01: And so just I would do a lot of breath work while I was doing Reiki on myself, just breathing in, you know, the strength and breathing out regret, breathing out, you know, whatever I was I was feeling that day.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_01: And spirit, oh my gosh.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Reiki, I feel is a big, a big spirit connection for me, right?
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's a huge portal of spirit.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, also my ancestors.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: I did a lot of work with my ancestors during that time, especially when my mom was on hospice and like wanting to release, but like not, you know what I mean.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_01: And like I worked with my ancestors, and I actually this was, you know, probably my my mom died of dementia, and it's a long, just horrible way to die, you know.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_01: And so the last month, she was just begging for death, you know, and and I told her, Mom, I can't, I can't help you with that, but we're gonna we're gonna talk to Grammy and Grandpa.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: Those were her her parents, you know, uh my ancestors.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_01: And so I did Reiki on my mom and I said, just talk to Grammy, talk to her like she's in the room.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_01: And and my mom asked to be released and take me home, you know, that whatever came to her.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_01: I said, talk to God, you know, let talk to Mary, Mother Mary, whoever, you know, just let's let's you can't ask me for it.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_01: You need to ask spirit.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_01: And within 48 hours, she she had finally passed, you know.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_01: So as you know, Reiki helps with with you know letting go as well.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, just deep.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: 2025 was so it was dark, it was deep, it was full of shadow.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_01: And now that I'm out the other side of it, like I'm not like, oh, I wish that wouldn't happen.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like, no, like like that is part of my strength.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_01: That so many lessons were were learned in that darkness.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like our roots are are are planted in the darkness because not everything can be out in the light, right?
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_01: Things need to like roots hold us to the earth, they can't be out in the sun, right?
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_01: So I look at 2025 as as my rooting system to grow into the new me.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm sprouting.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm definitely like this year feels so much different than last year, and I'm holding on to all those lessons and that strength that I got from feeling so weak.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for sharing so deeply with us.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_02: So I love that about the roots in the shadow, in the dark, underneath.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because so many times we're like, oh, I've got to be light, I've always got to be happy, positive.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_02: What we gotta do is accept the present moment and whatever arises from it.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_02: Acceptance is the key, not this happiness, because it's a false happiness.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_02: True happiness is contentment and peace with whatever arises.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_02: That really brings real happiness, and so yeah, I feel like everyone is listening and watching um with the elements, you can become aware of what elements you you're more drawn to.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like when you realize you're out of balance, what do you do?
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_02: Do you go outside to be in nature?
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_02: Do you take a shower or go to the ocean?
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_02: Or um, do you use breathing techniques and tools?
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_02: And um, or do you light a candle?
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_02: Like just noticing because it already exists in your field, you're already connected and tuned into the elements or elements that are um the ones in which you're learning through more stronger.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_02: So lean into them and use those tools that Kristen has suggested because um I feel like yeah, ritual, practice, presence can help us to move out of these like programmings that we have and help us to to like blossom into our soul essence, and yeah, the elements are a way for us to connect with like our soul, our soul purpose.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what are we here to experience?
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_02: Well, what what elements do you work with?
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_02: What elements do you love more?
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_02: And so feed into those, bring awareness into those because that's your soul purpose, that's what you're connected to.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_01: And that, I mean, that is what's gonna get you through the chaos of the world right now, right?
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's uh every client I work with is just like I'm doom scrolling, I can't get to sleep, you know.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_01: It it's there's so much happening, you know, like like on a a earth level, you know, like like the fires and the earthquakes and all the stuff, you know, and then there's like the the The the politics and you know just everything.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just time is just so fast now.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody's just like, like, just there's chaos happening, right?
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_01: And you can choose.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_01: Chaos is a choice, right?
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's all going on out there.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_01: What's going on in here, right?
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like, like what are you focused on?
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_01: You can turn off the news, you can turn off the TV, you know, put your phone in another room and go to sleep to like a hypnosis recording or some you know binaural beats or just something that's gonna bring you back into yourself, or go outside and hug a tree, or go, you know, take a ritual bath, you know, with salt and and some crystals, right?
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like we have a choice what we give our intention or our attention to.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_01: And why not put it our attention into our intentions, right?
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like, do we intend to be chaotic and and just, you know, we have to be aware.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying like just ignore the world.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: And you can find balance, you know, like, okay, I know what's going on, so now I know what I need to focus on for myself, right?
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like knowing what's out there, but not like living it and not like like putting all your energy to it.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, if everybody just focused on on a connection to spirit, whatever that spirit is for them, and and grounding, like the chaos would, I think, start to like slow down, right?
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_01: Because people are just like, they're not gonna feed into it anymore, you know.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_01: And if no one's feeding into it, it's gotta stop, right?
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, that's how I feel.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like if if I bring my attention towards it and I my mind keeps focusing on, I'm sending energy towards it and I'm keeping it alive.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_02: But if I bring awareness to being in being in the presence with the magnificence of presence, where all the deep light and um consciousness is, then I'm feeding awareness into that and that develops and that grows.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_02: And like like what what you did, you you you realized you actually focus instead of focusing on the burn and the pain and everything, you discovered what cannot burn.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_01: And that that's my whole premise is you know, with ritual is medicine, is is what the name of my chapter is in the book we're doing.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_01: And it's it it was medicine for me.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's no medicine for grief.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_01: There isn't, right?
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_01: Ritual became my medicine to get me through those those deep places of losing everything, losing my mother, losing my home.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, the one thing that didn't burn is my connection to to Reiki, to my ancestors, and to the elements, and that's all I needed and breath to live.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_02: And it's always here in the present moment.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_02: So you you offer different types of experience like around ritual.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_02: Could you share?
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like you've mentioned a few of them, but could you share um a few more and like what it would be like for someone to work with you and through ritual and like what what would they what could they experience?
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, definitely.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_01: So I do have a couple different offerings around ritual.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, one is ritual as medicine, and that's the name of the offering.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_01: And it's me taking, it's a five-week journey with me, and I take everything that I offer, all the different modalities that I offer at the Healing Woods, and we do it focused on one thing, right?
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_01: Because a lot of times people are like, I want this, I want that, right?
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like imagine a garden hose and you're trying to water this one plant, but then there's all these like holes in the hose, so the water's kind of going everywhere, and so you just get like a little trickle where you're actually trying to get the intention or the energy or the water.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_01: So I have them pick one thing, and we start with the Akashic Records, like because you know, the thing that you're thinking might be in the way of this may not even be something that happened in this lifetime, right?
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: It could be some old soul contract from like 15 lives ago, like who knows, right?
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_01: So we do Akashic Records to kind of see what happened in the way, way, way past.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_01: Then we do Reiki and we start to plant the seeds for the intention, maybe do some cord cutting to things that are getting in the way.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_01: Then we do um coaching with tarot, right?
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_01: I believe tarot is such a beautiful way to talk soul to soul with somebody, right?
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like I've been doing readings for 35 years and I've made friends in all sorts of different ways over these these beautiful cards.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_01: And the way that I read is not about like, oh, the future.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's more about like, all right, what do we need to know to get you where you want to be?
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like I it's a very grounded way in which I which I read.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then we do hypnosis because then it's like, okay, you're you're focused on what you want, you know what you want.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_01: We've we've cut you energetically and karmically from the things that might be standing in the way.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_01: Now let's get 100% of your mind on board.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_01: So we do the hypnosis around it.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_01: And then the last week we meet and we do ritual.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like I guide you on a ritual on bringing bringing this in even more deeply using spirit.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_01: So that's that's the ritual is medicine um premise.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_01: And and I love that.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's a beautiful like set space, right?
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_01: Of five weeks.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_01: The other way that I work with people, and and this has been very beautiful, is it's called the sacred moon circle.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_01: And it's a way in which you can receive Reiki uh and a card pull on the new moon and the full moon, so almost every two weeks, right?
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_01: And whatever your intention is for the month, I put it into the Reiki grid, and and you know, so for just getting the universal light energy going towards what you want, getting the tarot wisdom, you know, set to you every day or every two weeks.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_01: And there is a level where you can get one-on-one work with me to get Reiki where I'm focused just on you, because you know, the the other levels are it's a collective, which is still very, very powerful.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_01: But when I'm just focused on one person, you get all of it.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_01: So ritual is medicine is is the five-week experience, and then sacred moon circle is the ongoing membership where you get that every every two weeks, every full moon and new moon.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_02: Well, thank you for these offerings to help people because you know, I've been in suffering, I needed help.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_02: I found teachers and healers and facilitators, and it helped me to not do it alone.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, and that that's what we're here for.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_02: We're here to like we've done, we've done it, we're doing it, we're still living it, we're still being human and learning out, and but it's lovely to be of service and support in this way.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_02: And I I'm just wondering, do you have your tarot cards near you?
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_02: I do.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm never too far from them.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_02: My feeling is that would you be able to like pick one and like based off the energies of like what's happening in the world and what's happening with ascension and humanity and awakening, or like or give us some sort of a direction, or what what do you feel?
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let me let me let me yeah, let me pick one card and and just see what spirit wants us to focus on to get through to flow through beautifully everything that's happening.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, this is beautiful.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_01: We have the high priestess.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_01: And so this is definitely like just like that feminine power within, right?
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_01: And and and knowing yourself, know thyself, like like knowing your shadow, knowing what you want, trusting yourself, right?
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's also ritual.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the high priestess is is she creates what she wants in life.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_01: Here's the thing though, you have to be really focused on what you want because when the high priestess focuses on what she's worried about or what she doesn't want to happen, she she can bring that in too, right?
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_01: So just being very focused on like what you want, where you're going.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, sometimes we don't need to know how we get there.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_01: That that's where this high priestess comes in, just knowing it's gonna happen and kind of getting the human out of the way and allowing your higher self to do to do the guiding.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: So I love this for us.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_02: That feels like the exact guidance we need right now.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_02: Surrendering our thinking mind, the ego, and opening up to our higher self, the higher priest or priestess that we are, and just giving the space for our higher self, our soul, to be in our body and to guide through our heart every step of the way.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_02: That is available to every single one of us all of the time.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_02: We just got to change gears and change focus.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_02: If we keep focusing on our ego, on our thinking mind, and its doubts and worries and fears, that runs our system.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_02: We can be more conscious and aware, and we can choose.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_02: Hold on, I don't want to believe in that, I don't want to focus on that.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_02: That's not my truth anymore.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_02: I'm focusing on my higher self, I'm trusting in my soul, guiding the way, and I'm moving when I feel the inspiration through my heart rather than the pressure of control based from fear of the thinking mind.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_02: And the big difference is are you being told by your mind to hurry up, you gotta do this, contract, urgency.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's the fear, that's the ego, that's the patterns.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_02: Or are you being guided with a feeling of expansion, excitement, joy?
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, this is what we want to create next.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_02: Come, let's explore this.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_02: There's a very different feeling when it's intuition, it's expansive, and it feels like inspiring.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_02: When it's the ego with its old patterns, then it is contracting and it is urgent and it feels stressed in the system.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_02: So that's how you can know the difference, and then you can consciously choose to focus on the soul wisdom and choose the path of your soul.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_02: And then what happens is the ego becomes of service to the soul, and instead of the ego running the show, the soul runs this show, and the ego listens, it pays attention, it does what it's needing to do.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_02: So I'd love for you to share you about your gift because you're offering everyone who's listening and watching a special gift.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_01: I am, yeah.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, with all the chaos in the world that we talked about a couple minutes ago, I created a hypnosis recording that brings in feelings of peace through chaotic times.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_01: And this is something that can just help you like become more focused, more present, ground you through something that's that's hard that's going on for you.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_01: So you can become more like this this high priestess or priest, you know, to to really come into your own power.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_01: And so you can just go to thehealingwoods.com.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_01: I think you're gonna put a link up there that'll take them directly to it.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_01: But it's a beautiful, you know, hypnosis recording with with binaural beats in the background to just really just give your mind a rest.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that sounds lovely.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for giving everyone this gift, and of course, you can find it in the show notes.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_02: Everyone, it's right there underneath this recording, this episode.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_02: So go and enjoy it.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_02: And everyone who's been listening and watching, thank you so much for being a part of this community.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_02: And for having me, Kristen, it's been so lovely connecting with you, writing this book, and I'm excited for everyone to receive deeply from the book.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_01: Me too.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like this book is literally the medicine that the world needs right now, and and that all of us came together at just the right time.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_01: So excited for it to come out.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_02: The way of the initiate.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_02: Well, thank you for spending this time with me and my community.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_02: So much love to you.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_01: So much love to you.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_02: Namaste.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_01: Namaste.