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This is what happens when you talk to the dead · Crime and Horror

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Speaker 1: Today, I'm going to tell you three very spooky stories
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Speaker 1: Into today's stories. One morning in the summer of eighteen
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Speaker 1: seventy six, a doctor named Lewis Allard.
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Speaker 2: Walked down the hallway up a hospital.
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Speaker 1: In Pepete, Tahiti. Tahiti is an island east of Australia.
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Speaker 1: Lewis was just about to step into his office when
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Speaker 1: he heard the hospital doors open, and he looked over
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Speaker 1: to see a few policemen walking in carrying this unconscious
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Speaker 1: man on a stretcher. Just from the looks of the
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Speaker 1: way this guy was dressed, doctor Allard could tell he
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Speaker 1: was a sailor. So a lot of doctor Allard's patients
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Speaker 1: were sailors because Papete was a port town, so if
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Speaker 1: people got sick or injured at sea and then docked
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Speaker 1: in Pepete, they would come to the.
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Speaker 2: Hospital right there. So doctor Allard walked over.
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Speaker 1: To the police and asked them what was going on
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Speaker 1: with the sailor, and the officers explained that this man's
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Speaker 1: friends had found him unresponsive that morning, apparently after a
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Speaker 1: very long night of drinking. Doctor Allard nodded and then
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Speaker 1: motioned for the police to follow him and bring this
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Speaker 1: guy with him, and he led them over to an
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Speaker 1: exam room where he had them lay out the sailor
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Speaker 1: on a table so that doctor Allard could look him over.
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Speaker 1: The sailor appeared to be pretty young, he was in
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Speaker 1: his twenties maybe, and he appeared very healthy and strong.
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Speaker 1: But when the doctor checked for a pulse, there was none,
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Speaker 1: and so after checking a couple more times to make
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Speaker 1: sure it wasn't just a very weak pulse, the doctor
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Speaker 1: ultimately concluded that, you know, this sailor was not just unresponsive.
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Speaker 2: The sailor was.
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Speaker 1: Dead, and if doctor Allard had to guess, he very
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Speaker 1: likely died from alcohol poisoning, given his friend said, you know,
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Speaker 1: the night before, this guy had had a really heavy
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Speaker 1: night of drinking, and here he was so alcohol poisoning.
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Speaker 1: So this hospital had a policy for how to handle
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Speaker 1: the death of foreign sailors in Tahiti. Basically, the doctor
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Speaker 1: who pronounced the sailor dead would then arrange for them
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Speaker 1: to be buried in a public cemetery. And in fact,
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Speaker 1: the hospital kept these cheap wooden coffins in the hospital
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Speaker 1: morgue for this exact purpose.
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Speaker 2: And so doctor Allard followed protocol.
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Speaker 1: And asked the police to go inform the sailor's friends
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Speaker 1: of his death, and then the doctor went to the
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Speaker 1: hospital's morgue to arrange for a coffin. A few hours later,
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Speaker 1: doctor Allard was back in his office when he heard
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Speaker 1: a knock at his door.
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Speaker 2: He told whoever it was.
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Speaker 1: To come in, But when the door swung open, the
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Speaker 1: doctor was surprised that who we saw there It was
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Speaker 1: the four local grave diggers who he had called earlier
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Speaker 1: to bury that sailor who had just died. Now generally speaking,
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Speaker 1: doctor Allard had virtually no interactions with the grave diggers
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Speaker 1: after he hired them. He would tell them to bury
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Speaker 1: the body, and they would do that and go on
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Speaker 1: their separate way, like there was no reason for the
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Speaker 1: grave diggers to come back and check in with the doctor.
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Speaker 1: But as the doctor is looking at these four guys
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what was going on here, he
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Speaker 1: quickly assessed that, you know, these guys weren't here just
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Speaker 1: to chat. They were here because they look spooped. And
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Speaker 1: before doctor Allard could ask any questions about, you know,
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Speaker 1: what was going on here, one of these grave diggers
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Speaker 1: began to speak, and in sort of a rapid and
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Speaker 1: sort of anxious tone, he said, you know, as we
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Speaker 1: were carrying the coffin over to the grave site, it
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Speaker 1: began to shake, like the person inside the coffin was alive.
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Speaker 1: And then we heard all these moaning sounds coming from
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Speaker 1: inside of this nailed shut coffin, and we all got
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Speaker 1: so panicked that we just dropped the coffin and we
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Speaker 1: ran here to tell you. Now, al was pretty surprised
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Speaker 1: by what he was hearing, but he's also thinking that,
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Speaker 1: you know, when he hired these four Grave diggers.
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Speaker 2: They were at a local.
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Speaker 1: Pub and they were drinking, and so he's thinking to himself,
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe something strange happened, you know, with this coffin,
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Speaker 1: or much more likely, these four guys are drunk, and
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Speaker 1: that what they've sort of said here is just some
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Speaker 1: figment of their imagination that they're not professional. They're just
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Speaker 1: drunk guys who were coming here screwing up my day.
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Speaker 1: And so, sort of annoyed, doctor Allard's like, hey, I'm
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Speaker 1: telling you that guy is dead. Okay, this isn't a
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Speaker 1: ghost scenario, but if you're so worried about it, why
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Speaker 1: don't you go get a police officer, have them come
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Speaker 1: over and inspect the coffin, you know, make sure the
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Speaker 1: person is really dead in there, and then once they
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Speaker 1: confirm that, please do your job.
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Speaker 2: And bury this guy.
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Speaker 1: And so the grave Diggers they kind of, you know,
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Speaker 1: look down sort of awkwardly, and they're like, okay, you know,
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Speaker 1: we'll go do that. Then they turned and they left,
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Speaker 1: and then doctor Allard got back to work. And then
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Speaker 1: a few hours later, doctor Allard heard another knock on
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Speaker 1: his door, and this time when the door opened, it
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Speaker 1: was a police officer and It was actually the officer
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Speaker 1: that the four grave diggers had gone and found at
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Speaker 1: doctor Allard's suggestion, and he had gone over checked the coffin,
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Speaker 1: and you know, the coffin wasn't moving, it wasn't making
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Speaker 1: any weird sounds, it was sealed shut. There was nothing
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Speaker 1: going on, and so the officer eventually instructed the grave diggers,
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Speaker 1: you know, to go ahead and bury it.
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Speaker 2: There's nothing going on here.
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Speaker 1: And so the grave diggers had at that point buried
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Speaker 1: the coffin, and that had been that, and so the
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Speaker 1: officer was here just to tell doctor Allard that, hey,
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Speaker 1: it's all good.
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Speaker 2: You know, he's buried. We can move on.
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Speaker 1: About a week later, doctor Allard had basically forgotten about
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Speaker 1: this whole snaffoo around the coffin and whatever.
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Speaker 2: Was going on with it.
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Speaker 1: He was sort of on to the next thing, and
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Speaker 1: he was out like he normally was at night, to
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Speaker 1: go for a walk. And the area that he liked
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Speaker 1: to walk in the most was actually the cemetery, not
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Speaker 1: because he had some sort of morbid obsession, but because
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Speaker 1: you know, it was often you know, vacant, there was
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Speaker 1: nobody there, and so it was a peaceful place to
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Speaker 1: go walking. And so, you know, he's strolling through the
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Speaker 1: cemetery like usual, and he's not seeing anybody like usual.
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Speaker 1: But as it began to get dark, he was walking
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Speaker 1: down this one row of headstones and he looked up ahead,
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Speaker 1: and he could have sworn he saw somebody standing behind
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Speaker 1: a tree with their body sort of half out of
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Speaker 1: the tree, half behind the tree, sort of half obscured.
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Speaker 2: And he stopped and he's.
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Speaker 1: Looking, and the whole thing just sort of felt off,
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Speaker 1: like what is this person doing? Is that a person?
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Speaker 1: Like what's going on here? And so he's staring and
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Speaker 1: as he's looking, sure enough, this dark silhouette steps out
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Speaker 1: from behind this tree. And the way they stepped out,
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Speaker 1: it was like they stepped out turned and faced doctor
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Speaker 1: Allard and just stood there, clearly looking right at doctor Allard.
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Speaker 1: But they're pretty far away from doctor Alert, like there's
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Speaker 1: a good distance between them. But immediately doctor Allard felt
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Speaker 1: threatened by this person or whatever it was. He didn't
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Speaker 1: even know if it was a person. He couldn't tell
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Speaker 1: if it was his mind playing tricks on him or not.
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Speaker 1: He's just staring at this thing that looked like it
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Speaker 1: was looking at him, and so doctor Allard instinctively, who's
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Speaker 1: now feeling a little bit frightened, turned and just started
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Speaker 1: walking away, like he was done walking in the cemetery
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Speaker 1: for the night. And so he turns and he starts walking.
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Speaker 1: But then it's like the hairs in the back of
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Speaker 1: his neck stood up. He just felt like this person,
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Speaker 1: whoever it is, they're still watching me. And so he
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Speaker 1: stopped after just a couple of steps, and he turned
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Speaker 1: back around. And now this figure is clearly marching directly
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Speaker 1: towards doctor Allard. They're almost running, They're walking real fast
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Speaker 1: right towards doctor Allard. And so now doctor Allard's terrified.
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Speaker 1: He knows there's something happening here. Why would this person
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Speaker 1: be doing this, Like is it a person? Like what's
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Speaker 1: happening here? And so doctor Allard he turns and starts
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Speaker 1: to run, and as he's running, he hears this horrible,
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Speaker 1: high pitched scream echo across the entire cemetery. And then
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Speaker 1: he looks back one last time and he sees the
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Speaker 1: face of this figure, this person charging towards him, and
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Speaker 1: it's the same guy who died a week ago, the
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Speaker 1: same sailor that he buried, the one who presumably was
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Speaker 1: moving around in the coffin the grape diggers were so
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Speaker 1: scared of it was him, and he jumped on doctor
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Speaker 1: Allard and began throttling him. And doctor Allard's on the
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Speaker 1: ground staring at this ghastly face.
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Speaker 2: The scream is coming out of him.
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Speaker 1: He had no idea what was going on, and then
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Speaker 1: doctor Allard just blacked out. A few minutes later, doctor
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Speaker 1: Allard came to and he sat up suddenly, and he's
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Speaker 1: looking around and there's nobody there. It's just a dark,
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Speaker 1: vacant cemetery, no sign of the dead sailor's ghost or whatever,
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Speaker 1: or whoever it was.
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Speaker 2: They're gone. And doctor Alard's just sitting there.
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Speaker 1: His heart's racing still, and he's he's telling himself, like
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Speaker 1: did that even just happen?
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Speaker 2: Like it felt so real.
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Speaker 1: His neck was sore from you know, what he felt
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Speaker 1: was this guy, this thing attacking him. But at the
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Speaker 1: same time, he was so sure that the face that
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Speaker 1: he had seen on this person was the dead sailor's face.
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Speaker 1: But how could that be. He's dead, he's buried, how
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Speaker 1: could that be? And so ultimately doctor Allard he got
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Speaker 1: up and he hustled back to his house, but over
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Speaker 1: the coming weeks, doctor Allard sort of spiraled into madness
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Speaker 1: because it was like, every day, all the time, he
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Speaker 1: would see out of the corner of his eye for
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Speaker 1: a second, like a glimpse of this dead sailor's ghost.
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Speaker 1: And it was always that face, that ghastly face, that
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Speaker 1: shrieking face, looking right at him, and he'd turn and
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Speaker 1: you know, the face would disappear. But doctor Allard, he
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Speaker 1: just felt like he was almost being haunted, that something
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Speaker 1: had happened, you know, like that attack in the cemetery.
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Speaker 1: It had felt so real. He felt like, now now
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Speaker 1: this ghost was literally haunting him. But he couldn't tell anyone.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a doctor. What's he gonna do tell
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Speaker 1: people that a ghost is haunting him.
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Speaker 2: He didn't know what to do.
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Speaker 1: And so what he ended up doing after several weeks
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Speaker 1: is he just began staying home and laying in bed,
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Speaker 1: basically feigning illness to avoid leaving the house. And he
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Speaker 1: would just lay there with his eyes closed basically all
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Speaker 1: day because as soon as he opened his eyes, he
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Speaker 1: would see this dead sailor's face.
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Speaker 2: He really was losing his mind.
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Speaker 1: And then eventually, when doctor Allard knew he had to
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Speaker 1: stop basically staying in bed all day and go back
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Speaker 1: to the hospital and sort of function in society again,
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Speaker 1: go back to work, you know. Otherwise people were going
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Speaker 1: to start asking questions here, like what's going on with you?
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Speaker 1: And he didn't have an answer.
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Speaker 2: You know. When that time came and he knew it.
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Speaker 1: Was sort of like, okay, go back to normal or
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Speaker 1: tell people about this. Well, what doctor Allard ultimately did
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Speaker 1: is he decided to walk up to the roof of
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Speaker 1: his house and throw himself off. He literally couldn't live
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Speaker 1: with what he believed was this ghost haunting him.
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Speaker 2: Twenty four to seven.
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Speaker 1: When the doctor's close friends found out that the doctor
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Speaker 1: had taken his own life, they immediately went to the
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Speaker 1: police and said, hey, wait a minute, like, we think
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Speaker 1: this has something to do with what he was dealing
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Speaker 1: with over the past several weeks. So the doctor, despite
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Speaker 1: not wanting to tell anybody about, you know, his haunting,
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Speaker 1: he did sort of begin to tell a.
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Speaker 2: Couple of his close friends.
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Speaker 1: Now, he was sort of subtle about it, but he
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Speaker 1: began telling people that He's like, yeah, I just I
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Speaker 1: keep seeing that dead.
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Speaker 2: Sailor's face everywhere I go.
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Speaker 1: I just keep seeing him Now, he didn't highlight the
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Speaker 1: fact that he was basically losing his mind over it
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Speaker 1: and thought it was literally a ghost. But a couple
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Speaker 1: of his close friends were aware that it almost seemed like,
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Speaker 1: you know, doctor Allard was effectively having a mental breakdown
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Speaker 1: over this dead sailor, and they did sort of connect
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Speaker 1: that doctor Allard sort of felt haunted by this dead sailor,
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Speaker 1: and so said close friends ultimately went to the police
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Speaker 1: and said, hey, I know this is a stretch, but
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Speaker 1: the doctor kind of thought he was being haunted by
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Speaker 1: this dead sailor before he died.
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Speaker 2: We think that has to do with why he took
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Speaker 2: his own life.
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Speaker 1: And sort of amazingly, the police, the way they responded
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Speaker 1: to this was Okay, we're going to look into this.
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Speaker 1: We're going to investigate the haunting, so to speak. And
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Speaker 1: what they did is they exhumed the coffin of that
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Speaker 1: dead sailor. They didn't know what else to do, they
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Speaker 1: just decided they would do that, and so they raised
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Speaker 1: the coffin out of the ground and they open it
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Speaker 1: up and they cannot believe what they see. So it
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Speaker 1: would turn out those four grave diggers had been totally
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Speaker 1: justified in being scared about what they thought they heard
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Speaker 1: and felt in that coffin when they were going to
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Speaker 1: bury it, because the sailor was not dead. He was
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Speaker 1: just so drunk that it felt like he was dead.
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Speaker 1: They couldn't feel his pulse. Doctor Allard had been wrong.
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Speaker 1: The sailor was not dead. He was totally alive. And
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Speaker 1: so as he was being carried over to the grave
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Speaker 1: site to be buried, he really was moving around inside
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Speaker 1: the coffin and moaning because he was horribly hungover, but
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Speaker 1: totally alive, and you know, grappling with the fact that
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Speaker 1: he's now you know, confined inside of this coffin. He
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Speaker 1: likely had no idea what was going on, so you
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Speaker 1: can imagine the types of sounds and things he might
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Speaker 1: be doing. And so the grave diggers they were right
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Speaker 1: to be scared. They did get a police officer. The
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Speaker 1: police officer came over and for whatever reason, when he
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Speaker 1: inspected the coffin, you know, he saw it was sealed.
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Speaker 2: There was no movement inside the coffin.
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Speaker 1: It was totally quiet, so, you know, the sailor inside
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Speaker 1: he just wasn't moving or making any sound, and so
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Speaker 1: the police officer greenlit burying him. So the living sailor
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Speaker 1: inside the coffin is buried underground by these grave diggers
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Speaker 1: and they go their set separate ways afterwards. But then
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Speaker 1: that sailor wakes up again, you know, he begins thrashing
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Speaker 1: around after being buried in the ground, and he actually
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Speaker 1: managed to break out of the coffin and climb out
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Speaker 1: of the ground. He saved himself. He literally, you know,
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Speaker 1: survived being buried alive. But he was furious at the
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Speaker 1: doctor who so cavalierly just decided he was dead and
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Speaker 1: now I go bury him. And so he decided he
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Speaker 1: would play a prank on the doctor to get back
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Speaker 1: at him. So what he did is he filled his
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Speaker 1: coffin up with rocks, and he sealed it back up
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Speaker 1: and he reburied it so nobody would know anything. And
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Speaker 1: then for the next week or so, he just kind
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Speaker 1: of hid out and didn't let anybody know that he was.
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Speaker 2: Actually still alive.
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Speaker 1: And then after about a week he knew the doctor
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Speaker 1: took his walks in that cemetery, and so he hid
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Speaker 1: behind a tree in the cemetery and waited for the
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Speaker 1: doctor to be alone making his walk, and when he
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Speaker 1: saw him, it was the sailor fully alive in the flesh,
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Speaker 1: stepping out from behind the tree looking at the doctor.
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Speaker 2: That was him.
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Speaker 1: It really was the sailor, and he really did run forward, shrieking,
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Speaker 1: pretending to be a ghost, and he attacked doctor Allard,
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Speaker 1: basically giving him the impression that his angry ghost was
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Speaker 1: attacking him. And then after doctor Allard passed out on
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Speaker 1: the ground, the sailor ran off. But for doctor Allard,
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Speaker 1: who fully believed that sailor was dead. Can you imagine
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Speaker 1: what he thought when he saw, you know, the sailor
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Speaker 1: attacking him and shrieking in the middle of the cemetery.
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Speaker 2: He fully believed that was the.
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Speaker 1: Sailor's ghost, and he had this totally real experience getting
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Speaker 1: attacked by the ghost. And so even though he survived
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Speaker 1: the encounter, it drove him mad. He began seeing the
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Speaker 1: dead sailor the ghost everywhere he went, and it eventually
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Speaker 1: drove him to kill himself. And so when the police
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Speaker 1: opened up that coffin, all they saw were all the
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Speaker 1: rocks the sailor had left behind. But following the doctor's suicide,
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Speaker 1: that sailor apparently skipped down It was never seen again.
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Speaker 1: eighteen ninety two, a twenty year old man named Benjamin
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Speaker 1: precursor to the US Coast Guard, and he was currently
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Speaker 1: working overnight as a surfman, which was basically like a lifeguard,
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Speaker 1: staying awake inside the station in case somebody came looking
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Speaker 1: patrol which had been pretty uneventful, but at the same
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Speaker 1: now that he was back at the station, he had
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Speaker 1: a little bit of time where he could basically take
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Speaker 1: a nap, and so he set his alarm for four
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Speaker 1: hours later, which is when he would need to be
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Speaker 1: awake in the station to take on another shift, And
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Speaker 1: then he told his fellow surfman that he was going
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Speaker 1: to close his eyes for a minute, and then he
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Speaker 1: climbed into bed and fell asleep. A few hours later, though,
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Speaker 1: ben shot up in bed and began frantically looking around
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Speaker 1: the room. He was covered in sweat, his heart was racing,
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Speaker 1: and after a second he realized that okay, like he's okay,
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Speaker 1: he's the he's in this, he's safe, and what had
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Speaker 1: just happened to him was just a dream he had had,
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Speaker 1: like a terrifying nightmare, but it had felt so real
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Speaker 1: that it really took him a second to, you know,
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Speaker 1: understand that that's all, it had been, just a dream.
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Speaker 2: In this dream, Benjamin was walking along the.
17:15
Speaker 1: Coast of Lake Superior, like he did during his nightly
17:17
Speaker 1: beach patrol, and it was dark out, and there was
17:20
Speaker 1: this awful thunderstorm and the rain was coming down so
17:23
Speaker 1: hard that Benjamin could barely see, and in fact, he
17:26
Speaker 1: almost felt like the impacts of the individual rain drops
17:29
Speaker 1: almost hurt his skin, like they were acids striking his skin.
17:33
Speaker 1: Then suddenly, through this wall of rain right in front
17:36
Speaker 1: of him, this man who ben didn't recognize, kind of
17:40
Speaker 1: stumbled into view. And this man was wearing very nice clothing,
17:43
Speaker 1: like he was on his way to a party or something.
17:45
Speaker 1: But you know, they're down at the coast of this
17:47
Speaker 1: lake and it's storming out like it didn't make any sense,
17:50
Speaker 1: but Benjamin, he just stared at the sky and didn't
17:52
Speaker 1: say anything, and the guy looked right back at Benjamin,
17:56
Speaker 1: and without saying a word, he just reached out and
17:59
Speaker 1: really aggressively shook Benjamin's hand. And then as Benjamin is
18:03
Speaker 1: watching his hand be shaken around by this guy, this
18:06
Speaker 1: guy with wild eyes turns and he points out to
18:10
Speaker 1: the lake that's right next to them, and even though
18:12
Speaker 1: he didn't say anything, he pointed with this level of urgency,
18:15
Speaker 1: like there's something out there, something bad, and you need
18:19
Speaker 1: to pay attention to.
18:20
Speaker 2: Whatever it is.
18:21
Speaker 1: And so Benjamin he turned and his hand still being
18:23
Speaker 1: shaken by the sky, and he looks out but it's
18:26
Speaker 1: just a wall of water. He can't even see the lake,
18:28
Speaker 1: and he has no idea what this guy is trying
18:31
Speaker 1: to tell him. And it was at that point that,
18:34
Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin sat up and he was awake again. Now, objectively,
18:37
Speaker 1: Benjamin understood that while this dream definitely was creepy, it
18:41
Speaker 1: wasn't really terrifying.
18:43
Speaker 2: You know.
18:43
Speaker 1: It's you know, it was raining and storming, and a
18:45
Speaker 1: random guy came up and shook his hand and pointed
18:48
Speaker 1: at the lake like that's that's not terrifying. But for
18:51
Speaker 1: some reason, for Benjamin, it just felt so real that
18:55
Speaker 1: that was the thing that made it so unsettling. It
18:57
Speaker 1: felt like he really had been out there and really
19:00
Speaker 1: had this interaction. Now, Benjamin was not the type of
19:03
Speaker 1: guy that would, you know, find meaning in dreams. He
19:07
Speaker 1: basically chalked dreams up as just that, just dreams. But
19:10
Speaker 1: there was something different about this dream. He felt, almost intuitively,
19:14
Speaker 1: like what had just happened in his dream was a
19:17
Speaker 1: warning that that man, whoever he was, was telling Benjamin
19:22
Speaker 1: something and it had to do with the lake.
19:24
Speaker 2: But he didn't know what it was.
19:25
Speaker 1: But As Benjamin thought about this, he knew how sort
19:28
Speaker 1: of crazy that sounded, and he figured that maybe he
19:31
Speaker 1: was just kind of caught up in the immediacy of
19:33
Speaker 1: having just had this dream that really the only reason
19:36
Speaker 1: he felt like it had weight is because it just happened,
19:39
Speaker 1: and so maybe if he just went outside and got
19:41
Speaker 1: some fresh air and let some time pass, that he would,
19:43
Speaker 1: you know, let this dream fade into the ether and
19:46
Speaker 1: he'd go back to normal life. And sure enough, when
19:48
Speaker 1: he got outside and got some fresh air, he did
19:51
Speaker 1: feel better, but he did still feel like that dream
19:54
Speaker 1: meant something, and so he just walked down to the
19:56
Speaker 1: coast of Lake Superior where he was in his dream
19:59
Speaker 1: to the other surfmen who were down there doing their
20:01
Speaker 1: own patrol, and there, you know, there was nothing unusual
20:04
Speaker 1: happening a lake. It was so calm, and Benjamin he
20:07
Speaker 1: went up to one of the surfmen and just kind
20:09
Speaker 1: of told him about the stream, and he was almost
20:12
Speaker 1: joking about it. He's like, yeah, you know, it felt
20:14
Speaker 1: so real that like I almost feel like it was
20:16
Speaker 1: a warning of some kind, but yeah, it's just a dream.
20:19
Speaker 1: And the other surfmen who were listening just for like
20:21
Speaker 1: h that's crazy, crazy dream, huh, And that was it.
20:24
Speaker 1: Following day, around noon, Benjamin and his fellow surfmen were
20:28
Speaker 1: hanging out inside the life saving station when all of
20:31
Speaker 1: a sudden, this guy comes stumbling into the station and
20:35
Speaker 1: he looked awful. He was soaking wet, he was covered
20:38
Speaker 1: in all these cuts and bruises, and he was visibly
20:41
Speaker 1: shaking so much that it almost looked like he was
20:44
Speaker 1: about to collapse right there onto the floor. Benjamin immediately
20:47
Speaker 1: asked the guy, like, Hey, what's going on, what's brought
20:49
Speaker 1: you here?
20:50
Speaker 2: What's happening?
20:50
Speaker 1: And the man, who clearly was struggling to just breathe
20:53
Speaker 1: at this point, sort of composed himself and just said,
20:56
Speaker 1: I was out on the lake last night on a
20:58
Speaker 1: ship that sunk. And as soon as he said that,
21:01
Speaker 1: Benjamin was like in total disbelief, because if a ship
21:05
Speaker 1: sunk on Lake Superior, the life saving service that Benjamin
21:09
Speaker 1: was a part of was supposed to know because they
21:12
Speaker 1: patrolled the lake and tracked the vessels out on the water,
21:16
Speaker 1: So it seemed sort of impossible that a ship could
21:19
Speaker 1: sink and his crew, the surfman would somehow not even
21:22
Speaker 1: know about it. And then at the same time Benjamin
21:25
Speaker 1: is thinking this, he couldn't help but go back to
21:28
Speaker 1: that dream he had had. It had happened last night,
21:31
Speaker 1: and it just seemed like this guy was warning Benjamin
21:35
Speaker 1: about something out on the lake.
21:37
Speaker 2: It just seemed way.
21:39
Speaker 1: Too coincidental that this guy's here the next day talking
21:42
Speaker 1: about a shipwreck out on the lake around the same timeframe.
21:45
Speaker 1: The survivor of the shipwreck explained that the ship had
21:49
Speaker 1: been really far out on the lake, probably too far
21:52
Speaker 1: away from shore for.
21:53
Speaker 2: Them to even see.
21:54
Speaker 1: And he said that he and several other people had
21:56
Speaker 1: made it onto a lifeboat, but the boat had capsized,
21:59
Speaker 1: and he spent hours and hours swimming to shore, and
22:03
Speaker 1: he had just gotten here and that's why he'd come in.
22:05
Speaker 1: And he was soaking wet and so tired because he
22:07
Speaker 1: had just swam all night.
22:08
Speaker 2: And he said he didn't.
22:09
Speaker 1: Know about any of the other survivors, or if there
22:11
Speaker 1: were any other survivors. All he knew was that he
22:14
Speaker 1: was here, and he has no idea what else happened.
22:16
Speaker 1: And so Benjamin and the other surfmen immediately gave this
22:19
Speaker 1: man a blanket and some food and some water, and
22:21
Speaker 1: then they quickly sent out a fleet of boats to
22:23
Speaker 1: go search the lake to hopefully find other victims of
22:27
Speaker 1: the shipwreck. That evening and all through the night, Benjamin
22:30
Speaker 1: and his coworkers sailed rescue boats back and forth all
22:33
Speaker 1: across Lake Superior looking for survivors.
22:36
Speaker 2: But all they could find were four dead bodies.
22:39
Speaker 1: But the man who had swammed to shore and told
22:42
Speaker 1: them about this shipwreck said there had to be more
22:45
Speaker 1: people out there. He said there had been twenty seven
22:47
Speaker 1: people on this ship, including him when it had sunk,
22:50
Speaker 1: which meant a lot of people were still definitely unaccounted for.
22:53
Speaker 1: So while some of the surfmen continued to search out
22:56
Speaker 1: on the water, Benjamin and a small team decided they
22:59
Speaker 1: would actually search the coastline itself and see if anybody
23:03
Speaker 1: washed up on shore. And so early on the morning
23:05
Speaker 1: of September one, so now the surf men have been
23:09
Speaker 1: out searching for people for over twenty four hours. At
23:11
Speaker 1: this point, Benjamin and his team were walking down the
23:14
Speaker 1: coastline and they looked up ahead and they saw what
23:17
Speaker 1: appeared to be two people laying on the sand, and
23:20
Speaker 1: so of course they ran up to them, and unfortunately
23:23
Speaker 1: they discovered that, you know, it was a man and
23:25
Speaker 1: a woman who were lying face down in the sand,
23:28
Speaker 1: and they were not breathing.
23:29
Speaker 2: They were dead.
23:30
Speaker 1: And so Ben he knelt down next to the man
23:33
Speaker 1: and he began rolling.
23:35
Speaker 2: His body over to get a look at him. And
23:36
Speaker 2: when he did that, two things happened.
23:39
Speaker 1: When he rolled him over and actually got a look
23:41
Speaker 1: at this guy's face, he saw immediately that it was
23:44
Speaker 1: the exact same guy from his dream, the guy who
23:48
Speaker 1: had shaken his hand and pointed out at the lake.
23:50
Speaker 1: It was him, definitely. And as he's having this revelation
23:54
Speaker 1: and he's sort of kneeling there in shock, the man's body,
23:57
Speaker 1: he's sort of rolling it over, and as it complete
24:00
Speaker 1: eat the rollover, the man's limp hand falls directly onto
24:05
Speaker 1: Ben's hand like a handshake. Ben would later learn that
24:09
Speaker 1: the ship that sunk out on Lake Superior the night
24:12
Speaker 1: before was called the Western Reserve, and apparently it had
24:16
Speaker 1: sunk during the exact same time that Ben had that nightmare.
24:21
Speaker 1: And the man that Ben saw in his dream, the
24:24
Speaker 1: man that had been pointing out at the lake and
24:26
Speaker 1: shaking his hand in the dream, and then Ben found
24:29
Speaker 1: on the shore dead, who then in his death flopped
24:32
Speaker 1: over and put his hand in his hand. All over
24:34
Speaker 1: again was a guy named Robert Minch, and he was
24:37
Speaker 1: part owner of the Western Reserve ship for the rest
24:40
Speaker 1: of Benjamin's life. He believed that Robert's spirit had actually
24:44
Speaker 1: visited him in that nightmare to warn him about the
24:48
Speaker 1: shipwreck that was literally happening right then and there.
24:52
Speaker 2: That he was shaking his hand and pointing out at.
24:54
Speaker 1: The lake, like, hey, go out there right now, there's
24:57
Speaker 1: something horrible happening. A ship is sinking. People need did
25:00
Speaker 1: your help. But when Benjamin woke up, despite really feeling
25:04
Speaker 1: like this meant something, this dream was a warning, he
25:07
Speaker 1: didn't actually go out and search the lake, and so
25:10
Speaker 1: as a result, the ship sank. In fact, of the
25:13
Speaker 1: twenty seven people who were on board that ship that sank,
25:16
Speaker 1: twenty six died, including Robert the owner. The only survivor
25:22
Speaker 1: was that man who swammed ashore and told them after
25:25
Speaker 1: the shipwreck.
25:25
Speaker 2: Had already happened.
25:39
Speaker 1: On the afternoon of September twentieth, nineteen eighty nine, a
25:42
Speaker 1: seventy year old man named Jim Moore and his wife
25:45
Speaker 1: Clara walked along the beach on a tiny island.
25:48
Speaker 2: Off the coast of South Carolina.
25:49
Speaker 1: It was called Polly's island, and it was less than
25:51
Speaker 1: four miles long and only wide enough to fit one
25:54
Speaker 1: main road, with beachfront houses on either side.
25:57
Speaker 2: Jim and Clara lived in one of.
25:58
Speaker 1: Those beachfront houses, and every afternoon they would go out
26:02
Speaker 1: and walk the beach together. That particular day, as they walked,
26:06
Speaker 1: Jim could see some clouds gathering off in the distance,
26:08
Speaker 1: right above the ocean, and he'd actually seen a weather
26:10
Speaker 1: report recently about this big storm called Hurricane Hugo that
26:14
Speaker 1: was supposed to be heading their way in the next
26:16
Speaker 1: couple of days. Living on an island, Jim and Clara
26:18
Speaker 1: were pretty used to getting warnings like that. I mean,
26:21
Speaker 1: storms were sort of a big deal on an island
26:23
Speaker 1: because you're pretty isolated, and they were just planning to
26:25
Speaker 1: evacuate if the weather, you know, got pretty bad.
26:28
Speaker 2: But for now, it did seem like the weather wasn't
26:30
Speaker 2: too bad, so they were sticking it out.
26:32
Speaker 1: However, it did sort of seem like basically everybody else
26:36
Speaker 1: on Polly's Island had taken the storm a little bit
26:38
Speaker 1: more seriously, and most of them had already evacuated. And
26:42
Speaker 1: in fact, as Jim and Clara are walking, I mean,
26:44
Speaker 1: normally they would see lots of people out doing what
26:46
Speaker 1: they were doing walking the beach, but today there was
26:49
Speaker 1: just one person really far down the beach, just this
26:52
Speaker 1: one guy walking towards them.
26:53
Speaker 2: But that was it. The rest of the beach was
26:55
Speaker 2: basically deserted.
26:56
Speaker 1: But Jim and Clara were you know, veterans of Polly's
26:59
Speaker 1: Island and certainly veterans of other storms that they had
27:02
Speaker 1: weathered in the past, and so they weren't worried yet
27:05
Speaker 1: and they just continued to, you know, walk down the
27:07
Speaker 1: beach and chat and just kind of stare out at
27:10
Speaker 1: these growing clouds and just have a normal day. But
27:13
Speaker 1: as they're walking, Jim was sort of keeping an eye
27:15
Speaker 1: on this guy, this one other guy on the beach
27:18
Speaker 1: that was walking towards them. Now he wasn't literally walking
27:21
Speaker 1: towards them, he was just sort of walking in the
27:23
Speaker 1: other direction. And so inevitably, both Jim and Clara and
27:27
Speaker 1: this guy were going to pass each other. And as
27:29
Speaker 1: Jim got closer to this guy, he realized he actually
27:32
Speaker 1: didn't recognize him. And realistically, Polly's Island was so small
27:36
Speaker 1: that Jim and Clara basically knew everybody, or at least
27:40
Speaker 1: could recognize everybody, but this guy who was wearing this
27:43
Speaker 1: long gray coat and this wide brimmed hat and he
27:47
Speaker 1: kind of had his head down. Jim didn't recognize and
27:50
Speaker 1: he told Clara like, hey, who is this guy? As
27:52
Speaker 1: they're walking closer and closer, and she's like, I don't know,
27:54
Speaker 1: I've never seen him before. But you know, there was
27:56
Speaker 1: no cause for alarm here. You know, it's broad daylight,
27:59
Speaker 1: and who cares if they're a stranger on the island.
28:01
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, people that live here have guests
28:04
Speaker 1: all the time, Like this is probably just somebody visiting
28:07
Speaker 1: somebody who lives here.
28:08
Speaker 2: And so they're walking getting closer and closer.
28:10
Speaker 1: And then finally, when Jim and Clara were about, you know,
28:13
Speaker 1: ten feet away from the sky, the guy in the
28:15
Speaker 1: big gray coat, Jim, you know, to be polite, just.
28:17
Speaker 2: Said, hey, how you doing.
28:18
Speaker 1: You know, because they're the only people on the beach,
28:20
Speaker 1: you can't just ignore each other. But the guy in
28:22
Speaker 1: the gray coat, he just kept that big hat sort
28:24
Speaker 1: of angled down and just briskly walked right past Jim
28:28
Speaker 1: and Clara and didn't even acknowledge them, which is like,
28:31
Speaker 1: you know.
28:31
Speaker 2: There's nobody else here, what are you doing?
28:33
Speaker 1: It's sort of rude, and so Jim and Clara they
28:35
Speaker 1: look at each other like that's weird. They keep on walking,
28:39
Speaker 1: and then for whatever reason, Jim just turns around and
28:44
Speaker 1: looks towards the sky the guy who had just passed them,
28:46
Speaker 1: the guy in the gray coat. And when he looked,
28:48
Speaker 1: he just stopped because the guy was gone.
28:52
Speaker 2: And there's nowhere to go.
28:54
Speaker 1: There is no you know, shrubs or trees or anything.
28:58
Speaker 1: This is a wide open, flat beach and this guy
29:01
Speaker 1: has just passed Jim and Clara like seconds ago. He
29:06
Speaker 1: can't be anywhere else. He has to be on the beach.
29:08
Speaker 1: There's nowhere to hide. And so Jimmy grabs Claaria and
29:11
Speaker 1: he's like, look, he's gone, and she turns around and
29:13
Speaker 1: she's like, what's going on. That's not possible. And they're
29:16
Speaker 1: looking like did he go in the ocean? But they're
29:18
Speaker 1: looking out in the water and there's no sign of him.
29:20
Speaker 1: The only place, you know, maybe he could have gone
29:24
Speaker 1: is if as soon as he passed by Jim and
29:26
Speaker 1: Clara he hard turned and ran inland and hid, you know,
29:30
Speaker 1: behind one of the houses. But that's pretty far away.
29:33
Speaker 1: It just didn't seem possible. That in that short of
29:35
Speaker 1: an amount of time he could get up there and hide,
29:38
Speaker 1: and also, why would you do that? That's such bizarre behavior.
29:42
Speaker 1: And so Jim and Clara they're just standing there, like
29:44
Speaker 1: trying to come up with some reasonable theory to explain
29:47
Speaker 1: where this guy went.
29:49
Speaker 2: But they just couldn't do it. It was like this
29:51
Speaker 2: guy just disappeared.
29:53
Speaker 1: And so eventually Jim and Clara just had to turn
29:56
Speaker 1: back around and finish their walk and make their way home.
30:00
Speaker 2: And the whole time all they.
30:01
Speaker 1: Could talk about was this disappearing man in the gray coat,
30:05
Speaker 1: because it defied any rational explanation where did he go?
30:10
Speaker 1: When the couple finally got back to their house, by
30:13
Speaker 1: this point, the clouds that had been gathering outside were
30:15
Speaker 1: now very dark, and it really did seem like a
30:18
Speaker 1: serious storm was on the horizon. And then when they
30:20
Speaker 1: turned on the TV, they put on the Weather channel,
30:23
Speaker 1: and there was this bulletin that the South Carolina state
30:26
Speaker 1: government had actually issued an evacuation order to all inhabitants
30:31
Speaker 1: of Polly's Island because apparently Hurricane Hugo was getting bigger
30:35
Speaker 1: and faster and more destructive, and it appeared like Polly's
30:39
Speaker 1: Island was clearly going to be in the path of
30:41
Speaker 1: this hurricane. And so at this point Jim and Clara
30:44
Speaker 1: forgot about the Gray Man and realized, like, hey, we
30:47
Speaker 1: got to pack our stuff up and go. You know,
30:48
Speaker 1: we thought we had maybe a day or two before
30:50
Speaker 1: we'd have to evacuate, but no more.
30:52
Speaker 2: We got to go right now.
30:53
Speaker 1: And fortunately for them, they actually had an adult daughter
30:56
Speaker 1: who lived right on mainland South Carolina, and so they
30:59
Speaker 1: could stay with her on short notice, no problem, and
31:01
Speaker 1: so they quickly packed up, they hopped in their car,
31:04
Speaker 1: and they drove on the one main road until they
31:06
Speaker 1: hit the bridge that went over the ocean. They made
31:09
Speaker 1: their way across the bridge onto mainland South Carolina and
31:12
Speaker 1: over to their daughter's house, and once they got there,
31:14
Speaker 1: their daughter was obviously very happy to see them, happy
31:17
Speaker 1: they were safe, and they would just spend the whole
31:19
Speaker 1: day basically just sitting there with the Weather Channel on
31:22
Speaker 1: watching reports about Hurricane Hugo, and over the course of.
31:25
Speaker 2: The day the news got more and more dire.
31:28
Speaker 1: Hurricane Hugo was poised to be this enormous, destructive storm
31:32
Speaker 1: that was not slowing down at all, and unfortunately, Polly's
31:36
Speaker 1: Island was really looking like one of the main areas
31:39
Speaker 1: that was going to be affected by the storm. In fact,
31:41
Speaker 1: the meteorologist was saying, like, it is not safe to
31:44
Speaker 1: be on the island at this point. I mean, there's
31:46
Speaker 1: a chance that all the structures on the island could
31:49
Speaker 1: be leveled by the end of the storm. So Jim
31:51
Speaker 1: and Clara, they're obviously happy they are safe, you know,
31:53
Speaker 1: on mainland South Carolina with their daughter, but they live
31:57
Speaker 1: on that island, their house, everything they own on that island,
32:01
Speaker 1: and so the idea that they were just helpless and
32:03
Speaker 1: their house is going to be destroyed was sort of
32:06
Speaker 1: just terrible, like what can you even do? You're helpless,
32:09
Speaker 1: And so as they began to sort of spiral into
32:11
Speaker 1: all their anxieties around what's going to happen, you know,
32:14
Speaker 1: eventually one of them said, hey, let's just accept that
32:17
Speaker 1: we're in this position and let's just change the subject.
32:19
Speaker 1: You know, we're safe here, don't worry about what the
32:21
Speaker 1: storm's going to do. Let's just change the subject. And
32:24
Speaker 1: the first subject that was raised was Jim and Clara's
32:27
Speaker 1: encounter with that strange disappearing man in the gray cloak.
32:31
Speaker 2: And so Jim and Clara they told the story to
32:33
Speaker 2: their daughter.
32:34
Speaker 1: About this weird guy they saw on how he just
32:36
Speaker 1: kind of vanished, and their daughter was like really interested
32:38
Speaker 1: listening to the story, And when they were done telling it,
32:41
Speaker 1: she looked at her.
32:42
Speaker 2: Parents and was like, I think you might have seen
32:44
Speaker 2: the Gray Man. Now.
32:46
Speaker 1: Jim and Clara had lived on Polly's Island long enough
32:48
Speaker 1: to know about the legend.
32:50
Speaker 2: Of the Gray Man.
32:50
Speaker 1: As the story goes, one hundred and fifty years earlier,
32:53
Speaker 1: there was this sailor who was making his way to
32:56
Speaker 1: Polly's Island to see his fiance who was there, And
32:59
Speaker 1: when he got to the island, he unfortunately basically fell
33:02
Speaker 1: into quicksand and died, And so the fiance is totally heartbroken.
33:07
Speaker 1: She's basically losing her mind over the sudden loss of
33:09
Speaker 1: her love. But a couple of days after her fiance
33:13
Speaker 1: the sailor had died, she saw him walking on the
33:16
Speaker 1: beach on Polly's Island, and he was wearing this long
33:20
Speaker 1: gray coat and this big, wide brimmed hat, and he
33:24
Speaker 1: was walking towards her, and she was so overjoyed. She
33:27
Speaker 1: knows it doesn't make any sense, but she runs to
33:29
Speaker 1: her beloved sailor and right as she reaches him, he disappears.
33:34
Speaker 1: Now Jim and Clara they couldn't help but see the
33:36
Speaker 1: overlap here. I mean, they saw, you know, a guy
33:39
Speaker 1: wearing a long gray coat with a big, wide brimmed hat,
33:42
Speaker 1: who you know, was walking on the beach, who then disappeared.
33:45
Speaker 2: It did sort of seem like the legend of the Gray.
33:48
Speaker 1: Man, But neither Jim nor Clara really felt like that
33:51
Speaker 1: actually was the explanation here. But at the same time,
33:54
Speaker 1: Jim did feel like, man, that is a weird coincidence.
33:58
Speaker 1: Over the next couple of days, Hurricane and Hugo made
34:00
Speaker 1: landfall and it was absolutely vicious. And then finally when
34:04
Speaker 1: it passed and it was safe to go back to
34:06
Speaker 1: Paully's Island, Jim and Clara.
34:08
Speaker 2: Loaded up their car.
34:09
Speaker 1: They said by to their daughter, and they made the
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Speaker 1: drive out there. And as they were crossing the bridge
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Speaker 1: to get out to Paully's Island, along with all the
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Speaker 1: other inhabitants that were going back, they immediately could tell
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Speaker 1: that Polly's Island really had been leveled. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: roads themselves were badly damaged. There were street signs and
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Speaker 1: trees everywhere, And as they're getting closer they can see
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Speaker 1: that basically their whole community has been leveled.
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Speaker 2: All the buildings are destroyed. I mean, it's like a
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Speaker 2: war zone. Now.
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Speaker 1: Jim and Clara had sort of braced themselves for this
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Speaker 1: because they had heard on the news that sure enough,
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Speaker 1: this hurricane had been as bad as expected and Paully's
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Speaker 1: Island had taken a direct hit. And so they drove
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Speaker 1: across the island until they reached their property, and when
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Speaker 1: they got to their property, they could not believe what
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Speaker 1: they saw. So there's actually one more part to the
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Speaker 1: legend of the gray Man Ghost. That is, when the
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Speaker 1: woman saw who she believed was her dead fiance walking
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Speaker 1: up the beach with its gray coat and his big
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Speaker 1: brimmed hat, and she runs up and he disappears, and
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Speaker 1: it's so tragic. That's not the end of the story,
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Speaker 1: because the woman was so upset by seeing what she
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Speaker 1: thought was her fiance again he's back from the dead,
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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, and then he vanishes. It's like she
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Speaker 1: had to experience his death a second time, and it
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Speaker 1: made her go crazy. It was like so much grief,
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Speaker 1: it was so overwhelming that she couldn't live with it.
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Speaker 1: And in fact, quickly after seeing, you know, his ghost disappear.
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Speaker 1: She was sent off the island to a hospital. She
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Speaker 1: was basically institutionalized.
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Speaker 2: And while she was off the island.
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Speaker 1: Immediately after she left the island, this huge storm rolled
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Speaker 1: through and leveled Polly's Island and only one building survived.
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Speaker 2: It was her house.
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Speaker 1: Inexplicably, her house was untouched, completely untouched.
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Speaker 2: Everybody else is ruined.
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Speaker 1: Keep that in mind because when Jim and Clara returned
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Speaker 1: to Paully's Island following Hurricane Hugo, whose house was the
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Speaker 1: only house left standing, theirs utterly untouched, their neighbors' houses,
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Speaker 1: all the local businesses, everything gone, their house untouched. And
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Speaker 1: just so you know, the legend of the Gray Man,
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Speaker 1: people believe if you see the Gray Man, he's warning
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Speaker 1: you to leave the island in advance of a storm,
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Speaker 1: like he apparently did for his fiance. He warned her
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Speaker 1: get off the island, and if you heed his warning,
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Speaker 1: the legend goes your house will be spared, and people
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Speaker 1: believe that's exactly what happened to Jim and Clara.
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