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MOCK DRAFT 5.0: Post-NFL Combine Edition - Cleveland Browns Podcast for 3/6/26 · The Dawgs - A Cleveland Browns Podcast

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[SPEAKER_05]: Welcome to the Dog's Podcast, with your hosts, Lake Renaker, Justin Charles, and Josh All.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's up, Browns Band, welcome back to another episode of the Dog's Podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Josh, all your hosts today, happy Friday, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope your week has gone well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're ready for the weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know where you guys are at in the country or in the world listening to this, but I know here in Ohio, where I'm at, it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Rainy and dreary, but I got to tell you I don't mind that much because it's warm It is upper 50s 60s get rid of that 20s and below the single digit bullcraft that we've been going through It's feeling more and more like spring and with spring
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[SPEAKER_01]: Spring, as Browns fans and football fans, we know what is coming our way, and it's the NFL draft that's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Today is mock draft 5.0.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My fifth mock draft released this pre-draft season, and today we are going to take into account things from the NFL combine that have come out rumors and all that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's the post NFL combine pre-free agency mock draft will be the last one I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: before the brown start making moves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In free agency, we get a little bit more clarity on how this roster is going to look, heading into April for the actual draft coming our way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to dive into that today, and then after the draft, as always, we're going to hit it into your voicemails and messages that you guys have sent in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And those, I mean, the the signups for that will open up here in June, which again, we're rolling into spring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I really don't have any news or information to go through today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just want to go right into the mock draft and for today's mock draft purposes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want you guys to understand, I am still very, very much an advocate for Carnell Tate at number six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Browns have got to get a locked-in surefire go to wide receiver target for this team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: wide receiver ready to come into an NFL offense and be the guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I believe I've believed at this entire time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And absolutely nothing through the pre-drive process has changed my opinion on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But coming out of Indianapolis and the NFL combine, a lot of smoke, buzz, hype, whatever you want to call it, around the Browns really focusing in on tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So today, I want to do a mock draft,
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[SPEAKER_01]: where we go offensive tackle first and see how the rest of the draft then might be able to play out if the Browns were to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you remember like the last mock draft, it was the whole sure the Browns take Caleb down's at number six on this kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I did a mock draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're okay if they go Caleb down's at six here's how the rest could play out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Same kind of concept today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If we go offensive tackle first, how's the rest of the draft potentially going to go for the Browns?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So real quick, before we start, after the tightest Howard trade earlier this week, the Browns have nine picks in the upcoming draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have picks six, 24, 39, and picks 70 in the top 100.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those ones are locked into place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Six, 24, 39, and 70 now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: after the top 100, the picks are subject to change slightly based on the compensatory picks that the NFL will be awarding to other teams and things like that ahead of us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, as it projects the rest of the picks for the Browns are 107, 145, 205, and 2048.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So those are the picks we will be making today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to kick off, mock draft 5.0, the Cleveland Browns at Pick 6, again, no trades, projected in this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to do some trades here in the first round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I might dive into that on the next mock, but for today's purposes we're sticking at 6.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're actually going to go Monroe Freeling the offensive tackle, the left tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: out of Georgia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Freeling is 6.7, 315 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This dude, I'm not going to get into combine performances for everybody, but for Freeling here with the 6-pick, I want to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He ran a 49340.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a 171 10-yard split.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 33 and a half inch vertical and a 9-foot 7-braud jump.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is athletic as hell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He rocked an 85.1 passblock grade per PFF, allowed just
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pressures, yes, single digit, six pressures, and only two sacks all season in the SEC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was his first year starting at left tackle for the Bulldog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for a one year starter, I know that's kind of the.
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[SPEAKER_01]: hang up with him and some draft circles as well, the longevity of experience isn't really there with freeling, but man for the one year that he did start at left tackle, he held down that spot and performed extremely well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like I said, that was at left tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this isn't a kid that we draft and then we have to force him over to the opposite side of the ball where he played in college and make him play right tackle or make him a right tackle and change him over
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[SPEAKER_01]: NFL draft profile freeling offers coveted length and athleticism at left tackle with only 16 career starts filling out his frame and improving his technique should be early priorities.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His quickness brings first phase positioning advantages, but he needs more play strength to carry that over to block sustain and finish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lunging and deadening feet post-punch must be coached out of his muscle memory in past protection, so his athleticism and his length can do their jobs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Independent hand usage and a reliable snatch-and-trap could instantly bolster his success rate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is some buyer beware on tape, but if it's smoothed out, he has the sealant of a quality NFL starter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, this is from his NFL draft profile, long-limbed with a frame that can add mass, possesses plus athletic ability for the position, has the initial quickness to make all the moves or all the move blocks asked of them, continues pressing forward to stay connected longer to his blocks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Protection improved noticeably as the season progressed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good fluidity when switching off and mirroring twisters,
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[SPEAKER_01]: redirects his feet quickly to meet inside moves at the B-gap and he runs like a tight-end as a lead blocker in to spring slip screens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you guys have seen any highlight videos, reels anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Jake Burns has posted some good stuff on X.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go check that out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Monroe Freeling is a freaking athletic dog at left tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a situation where as we were doing mock drafts a month ago, a month and a half ago, you know, we could get Monroe Freeling and I based again everything I do off mock draft day to base the aggregate of the industry mock drafts where these guys are on average projected to go, month and a half ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: he was a guy we were looking at at like pic 39 most recently it's like okay the Browns could probably you know we could take him at pic 24 he's kind of projected you know early second round late first round range nope right now he has already skyrocketed up draft boards right now on mock draft database projected to go 17th
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[SPEAKER_01]: to the Detroit Lions, so if the Browns want him and they're not able to trade back to like 10 or 12 or something like that and try to recoup some other draft capital or future assets and then still get Monroe Freeling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If they're stuck picking at six, they're going to have to take him at six otherwise he will not be there at pick 24.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Segway, moving into pick 24.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So since we bypassed WiderCero, we did not go car and L-Tate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting because I do think there might be a possibility, obviously, we have pro days and everything coming up in March here and all that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So things are going to change the mock draft database draft board, consensus board, it's going to move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Players are going to keep moving around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A guy like Jordan Tyson could end up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: falling to the later part of the first round, maybe even to that pick 24, where the Browns are picking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, that's not where he's projected to go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it picked 24.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still want a wider seever, and I'm going to take one of my favorite wider severs to come in the last mock, so you guys are familiar with the name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's
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[SPEAKER_01]: Omar Cooper Jr. the wide receiver out of Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is six feet, 200 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He ran a 4-4-2-40 at the combine, a 1.55-10 yard split, and a 37-inch vertical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He posted 69 receptions, 900, and 5-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1
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[SPEAKER_01]: 37 yards 13 touchdowns in 2025 actually had 14, one of them was a rushing touchdown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 494 of his yards came after the catch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a 7.2 yards after catch per reception.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one of the highest in this draft class and he had a 2.55 yards per outrun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great number, a great spot that I like to see for these receivers and he had just three drops all season long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: his contested catch rate could be better caught just 7 to 14 contested catch passes for 50% rate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the number I love and I believe this is the highest among this entire draft class that I've seen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 27 missed tackles for the dude catches the ball breaks tackles makes guys miss and he is a
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[SPEAKER_01]: freaking demon in the open field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love Omar Cooper Jr. Lance Zirline at NFL.com.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Comps them to Debo Samuel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Play style in the NFL is NFL draft profile.
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[SPEAKER_01]: big, strong target whose two-year rise is bolstered by translatable tape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: While he was a full-time slot receiver in 2025 Cooper has played outside as well, he can stem and drive past press with his strength he has potent early acceleration to climb past nickelbacks into top position to challenge deep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His routes lack polish and he has averaged in and out quickness at breakpoints, but he has ruggeded once the ball is in his hands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His ability to add yards after catch could earn Cooper more carries than we saw from him at Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fighting for catch space and blocking for the running game our areas where he needs improvement, Cooper is an ascending slot bully with day to value and I'm telling you guys by the time it's all said and done, I will not be surprised to see Omar Cooper
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[SPEAKER_01]: Junior sneak into the back end of the first round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he could be a first round pick for sure and right here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're taking him in the first round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because again, like Monroe Freeland Cooper, a guy, I just don't think that he'll be available at the next pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Freeland would be available 24.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you got to take him earlier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Cooper will be available at 39.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think you got to take him here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So some other things about Omar Cooper real quick, he posted 20 touchdown catches since the start of 2024.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is a touchdown machine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He welcomes physical play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wins through contact.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a versatile enough to be more than just a slot option.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you hear people say, ah, he's a slot only player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's not just a slot only player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can be moved around the formation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is a great trait.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for these players, for these wider severs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He creates a lateral separation when being pressed, digs hard through drive phase before snapping his head around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First and second acceleration catches defenders off guard, explosive leaper who can pluck high throws at their apex, remember the freaking catch of the season of the college football season was Omar Cooper Jr. in the back of the end zone on that touchdown pass from Fernando Mendoza to beat Penn State.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go, just if you didn't see the catch, which I can't, I don't know how anybody didn't at this point, but go watch it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go YouTube, the highlight catch from Omar Cooper Jr. where he, I don't know, how he caught the ball and got both feet and about like it was insane, insane, but he's a rugged runner who can break free from multiple tacklers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been higher on Omar Cooper Jr. throughout this process, but now the draft boards are really catching up to this and I think I would be totally great if the Browns grabbed him here at Pick 24.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what we're doing in today's mock draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, pick 39 moving into the second round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go back into the trenches for the Cleveland Browns, the offensive line that desperately needs to continue this overhaul to get young, just dog style players back on that offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: pick 39 is going to be Chase Besontis, offensive guard out of Texas A&M.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Browns add more help and youth to this offensive line Besontis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is 6 foot 5, 315 pounds, NFL draft profile says Besontis is a tough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well-schooled guard, he lacks ideal length, but he brings heavy hands, good footwork, and plus core strength to the table.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He plays with ideal strain and stickiness to sustained blocks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has plenty of nasty when he needs it too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love hearing that about my offensive lineman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's consistent as a move slash zone blocker and when working downhill, he can be outraged, stacked, and shed when his hands aren't first while he provides poison good technique as a run blocker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are slight levels of anxiety slash hurry in his past protection, with his lack of length a contributing factor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In general, his protection meets the mark and pairs nicely with his run blocking basantes
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[SPEAKER_01]: on my offensive line here in the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Chase Pesantus, one of my favorite interior offensive lineman in this draft class, and here we're taking him at 39.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, balance and core strength provide longer connection to the block.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He settles his feet, strikes with inside hands and unlocks his hips into his target.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's able to gather, adjust, and land against moving targets in space.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His initial quickness to climb and seal or make backside cutoff blocks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He pairs his technique with churning feet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for optimal double-team displacement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keeps his feet active and sliding to stay mirrored to movement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Use his downward chops to wipe out rushers long arm push, displays the ability to redirect an edge rush off the track, and he can bounce and drop a shadow anchor when needed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is a great fit for the Browns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are now really working on this offensive line, so we got Titus Howard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Projected at right tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just took Monroe Freeling was going to start a left tackle and now we've got our other starter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember we talked about this in previous episodes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably going to need three veterans that we need to sign or trade for on this offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to want to start more than probably two rookies on your own lines.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Chase Pissantes at one of the guard spots becomes that other rookie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that the Browns are going to go with here in the draft at pick 39.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, moving on now, pick 70.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Browns are going to take their first defensive player today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Keonti Scott, corner back out of Miami, 511-193 and 2025.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At Miami, Keonti Scott had 64 tackles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two four swumbles, two fumble recoveries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This kid had five sacks, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are edge rusters in this draft class who didn't have five sacks all last season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keonti Scott also had two picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 110 interception return yards because both of them were pick sixes to the house he had five pass breakups to go along with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lance Zirline comes him to Elijah molded in the NFL his NFL draft profile says that Scott's play
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[SPEAKER_01]: or his play style and tackle production resemble that of a will linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's edgy and urgent near the line with an ability to slip or play off of blocks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can snuff out run plays before they get started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Scott lacks ball production due to inconsistent break anticipation and rouse squeeze, but he can twitch and trigger to close windows, rapid finish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He keeps yards after contact to a minimum.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Scott's blitz talent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The five sacks off the edge makes him a value added rusher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's an older prospect and he needs to play in a skiing that allows him to keep his eyes forward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Scott's football character should make him a team favorite as a starting nickel back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: he brings culture changing mentality and leadership.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that note about him posted again 64 tackles during the 2025 season 13 TFLs in college football last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He plays with nimble feet and sudden change of direction in space, twitchy trigger and burst from a standstill, rushes in, wraps and finishes before yards are added after the catch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right or displays rare strength and intensity to fight off bigger blockers lower lowers his mistackle rate by closing tight before igniting the tackle and he blisters off the edge with plenty of heat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am just very excited about what a guy like Yanty Scott could do here in Cleveland now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, he's already 24 years old, so he might be beyond the age guardrails for Andrew Barry though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have seen Andrew Barry stretch those guardrails, those boundaries a little more in recent drafts where in the past he'd been pretty strict to those age guardrails earlier in his GM tenure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But here at Pick 70, the Browns grab a solid corner to add to the backfield with Denzel Ward and Tyson Campbell on the outside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Scott can come into the slot to the nickel backroll and be effective in that role.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really want to see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: what this kid could do, what he could be with Mike Routenberg, who's specialty is the secondary and developing those players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like the idea of drafting Kiyanti Scott here at Pick 70.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then moving to Pick 107, we're sticking with defense because again, I know we want all these offense of players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: guys, if you watched the roster breakdown episode that I did a week or two ago, we need players at every single position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we got to get guys and this is a spot we definitely need players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So at 107 we're taking Harold Perkins Jr., the line-backer out of LSU.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now this is a spot according to current mock draft database projections.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Browns could possibly explore a trade back, a little bit a few spots here and still be able to take Harold Perkins but for the sake of this mock draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just going to take our outside linebacker right here at 107.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Harold Perkins, 21 years old, six but one, 223 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So kind of picture, JOK size when you're thinking about Harold Perkins as a linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, draft profile here, slightly undersized off-ball linebacker with solid, 225 production.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But less in-game impact than he showed in 222 and 223 before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: he tore his ACL in 2024.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Perkins is decisive against the run and nice into the backfield when lanes open.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's adequate and blocked take-ons and finishes tackles near the line with good physicality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can still run but lacks his previous explosiveness and close-outs and pursuits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His instincts in space are average and he can get lost in coverage, but he has the athletic ability coverage requires.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Perkins is at his best when deployed in a scheme that allows him to play free and attack the line as often as possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now listen to this, Harold Perkins Jr. posted 35 and a half, I guess they do haves in college, 35 and a half tackles for loss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 17, Sachs and eight four spumbles over his four seasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he missed a lot of time with that torn ACL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of that production was in his first two seasons as a freshman and a sophomore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He reads run and scrapes to the line to compress the front, lands a crisp two hand punch to stay clean against blocks, adequate burst in short spaces to close on lane development, sifts through route development to locate zone landmarks, triggers a well time blitz to harass the pocket, accelerates through contact to finish tackles near the line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, let's get guys on the ground, please.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love guys who can tackle was a special team's demon, his freshman season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, his production was legit as a freshman and a sophomore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, Torres ACL and 2024, so it makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wouldn't be back to 100% form in 2025, but here we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going into 2026.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna be
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[SPEAKER_01]: two years removed from that injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is what we like to see the two years removed from the injury plus he is super young.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, just 21 years old so that injury at this stage in his career makes me confident that the injury is fully behind him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like the idea of adding Harold Perkins Jr. to the line-backing unit alongside Carson Swesinger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we'll pick up the pace here a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pick 145.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going back to the offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Oscar Delp tight end out of Georgia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Browns add another Georgia Bulldog to the dog pound along with teammate Monroe Freeling Delp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has six foot five, 245 pounds at the NFL Combine Oscar Delp talked about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: his time at Georgia when Todd Munkin was the O.C.
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[SPEAKER_01]: there and how he would love to play for Todd Munkin in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His draft profile says that Delpe is a fluid athlete with the forward lean, short area quickness and pure speed to beat line backers on intermediate routes.
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: His soft hands and smooth catch skills show up on the move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Though his short arms and inconsistent finish through contact do limit his reliability, he has enough toughness and technique to help in the run game, as he continues to improve his strength.
23:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Delta projects as a day three prospect with three down potential and untapped upside.
23:57
[SPEAKER_01]: As a past catcher, that is the kind of profile I'm looking for at a tight end in this range of the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Oscar Delta would be an excellent addition to the roster at tight end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Harold Fan and Junior continues to be that
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[SPEAKER_01]: move tight and the wild card player on offense, who can just line up all over the field, just a pure weapon on offense, and Oscar Delp can contribute in multiple tight-ends sets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can play in line to help with blocking and can also get out in space and make plays in the passing game when needed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really high on Oscar Delp, so we're going to reunite him right here with Todd Munkin in Cleveland at Pick 144.
24:36
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, pick 148, more trench time for the Browns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're taking Pat Cougan, the center from Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Six foot five, three hundred and eleven pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His profile says that Cougan is a veteran center with good size intelligence, communication skills, and leadership that will appeal to offensive line coaches in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is technically sound and is consistent in centering opponents while latching in with grip strength.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to increase stickiness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's best in a gap scheme and inside zone, but his effectiveness can fade when the job stretch is beyond the A gaps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In protection, he lands well-timed punches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Utilizes instinctive hand receipts to regain positioning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, forward lean and shorter arms will invite counters.
25:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Kuchen has the potential to become a starter in the NFL, but there are limitations in his game that make scheme fit and protection help importance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, they say he dips his hips, drives through down block targets, keeps his hands tight, providing added control at the point, stays square with his eyes to the linebacker on workup blocks, he slides his hips into place to secure on ace blocks, uses independent hands with good timing and pop he gets to his resets quickly and helps regain his positioning and his base with never changes when mirroring his defender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if the browns are able, or I'm sorry if the browns are unable,
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[SPEAKER_01]: to land a guy like Tyler Lindermom in free agency at center.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a guy like Pat Cougan would be a very good target for them in the draft to develop and hope that he turns into that eventual starting center for this offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Browns could then, you know, we can so sign a veteran starter in free agency at the at the center of position, maybe a one,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe two year cheaper deal with Pat Cougan waiting in the wings to be that next man up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So here we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pick 148 is Pat Cougan the center from Indiana.
26:37
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, two picks left and this is 205.
26:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to spend a whole lot of time on these last two picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These picks are very likely going to be dealt either before or during the draft.
26:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a good chance the Browns won't even make these picks at 205 and what's last
26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... yeah up to a five and two forty eight
26:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's 205, if we do keep the pick, this is where if you want to swing at a quarter back in this draft, then just go ahead and swing because again, a lot of these picks from 205 to the end of the draft might not even make your roster if you do pick them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're probably trading these picks for future assets, compiling your priority undrafted free agent list during this part of the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're really not even worrying about who you're going to draft, you're more thinking
27:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy
27:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And what's funny about it is last September, he was being mocked to the Browns at number one overall in the entire draft.
27:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're gonna take Cade Club Nick, the quarterback from Clemson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Six, two, two, seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His profile says much was expected of Club Nick after a strong showing in 2024.
28:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But his play and production declined in 2025.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's undersized, but athletic shows an ability to attack zone windows with adequate velocity over the first two levels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Club Nick can make some timing throws with the anticipation when he's in rhythm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, when the first read isn't there, his field vision becomes average and he's not good enough off-platform slash out of structure to succeed at a high enough rate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The accuracy numbers to most areas of the field fall below the mark, but tape studies shows a high drop count by his receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that does add to that completion percentage number.
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[SPEAKER_01]: While his design run production fell off in 2025, he remains pocket-mobile, avoiding sacks and exploiting rushing lanes, maintaining poison mechanics are essential so finding a short passing attack with a competent run game feels like a must for Kate Klubnik.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They said his ball comes out with a quick compact release, he has good anticipation and rhythm on his timing throws, he can dart passes into zone windows when sitting down on his throws,
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[SPEAKER_01]: He allows big receivers a chance to make a play over smaller corners, floats deep sideline throws with better accuracy than his stats might suggest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Production and completion percentage were hurt by excessive drops.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Show's ability to manage and manipulate the rush with his feet, and he has quick acceleration to escape closing rush and go get yards on the ground.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In 2025, he had a 65.6 completion rate, 2,943 yards, 16 touchdowns to 6 interceptors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 2 is 2024 campaign in which he posted a 63.4 completion rate, but he had 3,639 yards, 36 touchdowns, 20 more touchdowns, and 2024 than what he posted in 2025 and again just six interception.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Am I sitting here pounding the table for the Browns to draft a quarter back in this draft in April new?
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[SPEAKER_01]: New?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am pretty stout against using one of those mid-range picks on a quarter back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go get some fricking players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if it's just depth players for this roster because God knows, we need him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We do not need more backup quarterbacks, but like I said here, pick 205.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a picture probably not going to have any way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if K club nicks on the board and they want to take this swing, I mean, he's an athletic quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's mobile.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can do things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, the 20, 24 stats were good enough in his play and everything that he did on the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That people were in my industry, mocks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're putting him to the Browns number one overall on the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so yes, things fell off the table in 2025 for K clubbing, but it might still be worth it here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, what these late, late picks in the draft, why the hell not?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was projected, like I said, as a first round pick a year ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At this time, so, you know, the juice is worth the squeeze for me here at 205 to see if anything might come of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's wrap this thing up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The final pick, 248, we're going with Devon Eastern defensive tackle out of Minnesota.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go to the trenches now, but on the other side of the ball, 6 foot 5, 315 pounds Eastern was a three year starter with a long wingspan, but in consistencies in his game in the lack of standout production.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Eastern Stays, arms are Eastern Plays, with loose upper body movement that helps him slip blocks and find gaps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He uses his length effectively to disengage when he times it right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, his high-cut frame and below average pad level create persistent issues, anchoring and maintaining gap integrity, especially against zone blocks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He ends up on the ground too often and hasn't proven he can create consistent pressure as a rusher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Eastern size and length might be best utilized in a wider alignment as an odd front end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a three-year starter with long arms, technique to sink low and corkscrew lowers against double teams, slips off blocks and end-of-gaps using loose upper body, gets into centers quickly with good first step forward, uses length to disengage and shove free from the blocks of the browns,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just we add a guy late in the draft on the defensive line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, no guarantee that these light picks will even end up making the roster, especially when we've got so many young guys and undrafted free agents and things like that coming in anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, don't get too worked up over these picks because we likely won't even have them when the time rolls around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there you go, guys, that's your mock draft.
32:39
[SPEAKER_01]: 5.0 here for the Cleveland Browns to recap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At pick six in the first round, we go Monroe Freeling, left tackle out of Georgia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pick 24 is Omar Cooper, Jr., the wide receiver out of Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pick 39 back to the O line, Chase Pesantis, offensive guard out of Texas, A&M, and then we move on to pick 70, we get Keonti Scott, corner back out of Miami, some help for that defensive backfield.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pick 107,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Back with the defense, Harold Perkins, Jr. Linebacker, out of L.S.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You pick 145 on the offensive side of the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We get some tight end help, Oscar Delp, tight end out of Georgia.
33:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I swear I'm not doing these rhymes on purpose, guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just kind of coming out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pick 148, Pat Cougan, the center from Indiana, and then with Pick 205, we're swinging at quarterback Cade club Nick out of Clemson, and then the rapid up 248 is Devon Eastern, the defensive tackle out of Minnesota.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me know what you guys think in the comments, how did this mock draft go?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you like it if these were the results?
33:52
[SPEAKER_01]: If the Browns were to go offensive tackle first in the draft weather, it's a Francis Maui Noah, or they go with Caleb Blommer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it wouldn't be low mode, be Spencer Fanna, although I'm seeing a lot in the mock drafts and everything we're now Spencer Fanna, who was projected as maybe one of those the top one or two tackles in the class.
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[SPEAKER_01]: he's falling down the board a little bit and I think it had something to do with his measurables at the combine and the fact that he might end up having to move into guard which we have also seen that speculation about Maui Noah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, if you're going to use pick six on an offensive lineman, you want it to be a tackle, and at that high in the draft, you don't want it to be a guy who's going to play guard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got to be pretty sure, at least in my opinion, that if you're taking Fano or Maui Noah, which for me it would be probably order Maui Noah and then Fano.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You better be pretty sure that they can play tackle for you on your offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you want a true, pure, left tackle in this draft, you're going to take Monroe Freeling in the first round and again, while some of those other guys like Fano start to slip down the board.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Monroe Freeling is skyrocketing up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what we did today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Started off with offensive tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me know how you guys feel the rest of the draft went.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you, would you go, Monroe Freeling or one of the other offensive linemen at pick six or would you rather do what I want to do and stay with Cardinal Tate or one of the other top receivers at six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let me know what you guys think in the draft.
35:31
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's time to hear what you guys have to say right now this week about the Brown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the first one here is a message from Jordan on the website again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Type up a message like Jordan did here and send it in and what Jordan said.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Huge fan of the show and a long time listener.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate that Jordan.
37:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, I am personally rooting for one of the big three-wide receivers at number six and an offensive tackle at Pick 24.
37:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Worst case scenario to me is Ty Simpson with an early pick and he sends a puking emoji.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, you guys should check out the website stick to the model.com.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's similar to Moctrath Day to Baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you can do a full offseason rebuild and everything is pretty accurate.
37:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It would be a cool idea for an episode to do a full offseason rebuild.
37:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've looked at stick to the model just and I've even thought about that too, Jordan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that suggestion of doing a full episode where we just go through and do a full offseason rebuild.
38:07
[SPEAKER_01]: The problem with doing that is now free agency already opens up on Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So things are already going to get rolling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Browns are going to be signing
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the problem is when I was looking into doing it again, I lost like two and a half weeks of my life here in February, be being sick and then moving to the new house and trying to get everything set up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just been, it has been a nightmare.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So stick to the model.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That might be something we look into doing next year, a few times on the show, doing some episodes where we do a full-off season rebuild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and I think that would be a lot of fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So great suggestion there.
38:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And you agree with me apparently here that you're rooting for one of the big three-wide receivers at six for me.
38:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Carl Altate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he goes at pick four or five to one of the teams in front of us, the Titans or the Giants or somebody, I'd be okay with Mackay Lemmon.
38:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I know he had that like sneaky cobra, weird interview stuff at the NFL Combine, but the dude is just a freaking
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[SPEAKER_01]: menace on the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jordan Tyson, I'm just I struggle.
39:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I am struggling with Jordan Tyson because I know that like if he didn't have the injury and the medicals, all those concerns and stuff, I think Jordan Tyson would probably be the locked in number one receiver in this draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just, he's probably the most complete receiver, the most dynamic receiver, but there's just
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's just some things I think was like the yards after catch just weren't as impressive and actually here I could probably bring this up real fast for you guys because I got all this data.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jordan Tyson 6200.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This past season 61 catches 711 yards eight touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He definitely showed that scheme versatility, the alignment versatility 25% in the slot 75% out wide.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The yac was definitely low.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 263, a 4.3 yards after catch per reception.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 237, 2.37 yards per route run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's in the range where I like to see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you know, your car and I'll take was over three at 3.02.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My Kylemmon was over three at 3.13.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then even guys like Denzel Boston and KC conception were 2.44 and 2.46 right after him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in this draft, and of course like Omar Cooper was 2.55.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jordan Tyson's A dot was 11.7.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not one of the higher ones in the class, but it's not one of the lower ones either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He only had one drop, so that's good to see that he doesn't seem to be plagued by drops.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His contested catch rate was low.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 7 out of 16 for a 43.8.
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[SPEAKER_01]: percent rate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, Cardinal T8 85.7 percent contested catch rate the highest in this draft class.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mackay Lem and 66.7, like he's one of the higher ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Jordan Tyson only six missed tackles for us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the same as Cardinal T8.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mackay Lemman was at 21.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just talked about Omar Cooper at 27.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's just things about Jordan Tyson's game that keep him
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[SPEAKER_01]: not on the same level for me as Carnell Tate and McCuy Lemon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then when you throw the injuries in there, you got a guy who's definitely third on my list.
41:20
[SPEAKER_01]: But Jordan, thank you for the message, and I hope to hear from you again soon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, over to the voice, Melos.
41:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, first one today is from our boy Justin.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Asked friendly browns fan out here in Jersey, what's the definition of insane beer?
41:35
[SPEAKER_04]: I do in the same thing over and over and over and over again, but expecting a different result.
41:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, let's see the talk here about all this trading around, doing what they always do.
41:46
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, they might trade, get a bunch of second round picks, all they might do this, they might do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, if you can do the same thing, year after year after year after year, and the good teams keep their picks and take the good players.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Then why are you going to keep doing that?
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[SPEAKER_04]: They literally are the brown Cleveland Browns are the actual definition of insanity.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's it's just going to the websters.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't trade up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Please go get Tyson or TAT at six.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Really believe one of them is going to be available at pick six and go get your offensive linemen.
42:17
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, fam, my order is still as fanno, freeling, and then proctor.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we just got the Texans guy, we got, you know, two big assets to the offensive line that can start right away.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got a huge receiver that you're also has to prove himself before you go give them a large amount of money, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: If we go get Harrison or Lava, they're going to want these big contracts.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, let's get a guy that probably's going to be good, but has to prove himself before we sign up to a big contract, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, we'll see what happens, go Browns.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Woohoo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Justin, I feel you, man, the tradeback stuff with the Browns, it's always very touchy with Browns fans, because we have truly done that over and over and over my entire life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just always seem to tradeback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's good players on the draft board and we're just like, yeah, we don't need those elite level players, we'll just tradeback, recoups and draft capital and then draft guys who won't be on the roster in three years anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that does tend to be the trend for the Browns,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Devils advocate to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've been talking with some people about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the type of draft where, and again, we are picking six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So are there elite difference makers for an NFL roster within those first six picks?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What if I got like RVL Reese does slip to number six?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you really going to pass on him?
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[SPEAKER_01]: David Bailey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know Rubin Bain has the small arms or whatever, but I still think he's a good player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maui Noah at Tackle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb Downs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Jeremiah love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some people say he might be the best football player in this draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know we just took Quinshawn Judkins, but could you add an elite weapon to your offense like Jeremiah love?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You sunny styles is coming into that conversation now as one of these elite prospects.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But once you get out of that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Once you get away from those top six picks or, you know, these handful, I should say, this handful of blue chip, elite cornerstone pieces for an off end, for a roster in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The rest of your first round,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's okay, but I see why there is enticing nature here to maybe get some other second round picks because if you just go and I'm just looking at who's projected in the second round, I mean you could end up with a guy like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Emmanuel McNiel Warren safety out of Toledo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you probably don't want to take a defensive player that, you know, early in the draft, but we could use that type of player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a TJ Parker, the Ed rush out of Clemson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have multiple second round picks, maybe you want to bolster your interior defensive line, take Caden McDonald out of Ohio State Colton Hood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, I think he'll probably end up being a first round pick, but he's currently projected
45:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Blake Miller, the offensive tackle out of Clemson, Zion Young, edged Russia out of Missouri, Lee Hunter, the D-line men out of Texas Tech, Max I, not sure the offensive tackle out of Arizona State, Emmanuel Pregnant, the guard out of Oregon, there's Chris Johnson, the corner back out of San Diego State, that Barry Schuckler, like, these are all second up at Chase Pissantes, who I just took in the mock, Chris Brasal, Chris Bell, Malachi feels D-Ly Stowers, Jderian Price, which, I mean, we wouldn't be taking a running back, but I think he'll definitely be going in this range.
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[SPEAKER_01]: DeAngelo Ponds, Cornerback, Jacob Rodriguez, the Linebacker, Jennings Dunker, the offensive lineman out of Iowa.
45:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone talks about Jake Golday, the Linebacker out of Cincinnati.
45:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I am listing off all of these second round players that I mean, if you wanted to recoup and the thing with trading back and trying to get more second round picks.
46:09
[SPEAKER_01]: for this draft is you probably only gonna have a first round grade on 12 guys 15 16 guys maybe max in this draft and after that once you get past say it's 16.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Once you get past 16 guys that you had first round grades on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: everybody after that's going to be a second round grade.
46:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Your next batch of players will be second round grades.
46:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You're really going to take them in the first round.
46:36
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where these teams struggle with positional value and draft value and all that kind of stuff.
46:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of my, and if I didn't explain all that, if I was a bad word salad, I apologize, but I do believe that there are a lot of very good players that could be had in the second round this year.
46:56
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not
46:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is a draft where I do think if they can get some trade partners trade back, maybe get some picks that, you know, in the bank for next year as well, get some added second round picks this year because the Browns have holes everywhere.
47:14
[SPEAKER_01]: We need so many players, so many positions filled.
47:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It's insane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The more second round picks in this draft, I think could actually help the roster.
47:26
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, you got to hit on the picks.
47:28
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to hit on them, and we'll see if Andrew Barry can continue to do that.
47:33
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Justin, again, thanks for the voice mail.
47:34
[SPEAKER_01]: The next one here is from Claude.
47:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey gang, Claude from Erio, it's been a minute.
47:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Just wanted to call in, talk about the QB situation, I guess, a little bit, a couple of comments.
47:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope.
47:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Shoulder gets the QB1 to at least start the season because it's exciting to see what he'll come out of the gate with the off season of full preparation, right?
47:59
[SPEAKER_02]: So excited to see that as for Deshawn, I'm content to never see him in a Brown Junior form again, but in the meantime, like he better be like
48:08
[SPEAKER_02]: passing out gatorades, folding towels, like, you know what I mean?
48:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, pulling is way for the amount of money we're giving them.
48:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And then for the draft, I imagine I'm going wide receiver, oh, I'm wide receiver, oh, I know, or someone in that order.
48:23
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you get Tyson's and I'm not going to complain about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that's really about it.
48:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sorry.
48:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I did want to say congratulations to the men's and women's hockey team.
48:35
[SPEAKER_02]: The U.S. Those were two fantastic hockey games.
48:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Neither game was a barn burner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Both nail biteers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was good, good hockey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Congratulations.
48:47
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you in four years.
48:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Go dogs.
48:52
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Claude, thank you again.
48:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Just with everything that's been going on in my life, like I didn't even realize I haven't watched a second of the Olympics.
49:02
[SPEAKER_01]: this year and I didn't know anything about the hockey, I know Kenny Mack mentioned at the other end of the show.
49:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I don't know Kenny, I didn't even wash hockey, I'm sorry man.
49:10
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's awesome.
49:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Good to know, good to hear.
49:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And then as far as I like to show on Watson, you probably don't want him doing anything with towels, if you know what I'm saying, a quarter, at least allegedly.
49:20
[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll see what ends up happening there.
49:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think.
49:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still on the Shidorah Sanders train like I know I talk about other quarterbacks from time to time, but it's just because that's in the news, that's what's being talked about.
49:32
[SPEAKER_01]: People are
49:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It just seems very likely that the Browns are going to add players, veteran, rookie, whatever the case may be to this room, and what they invest in that player or those players will really dictate how this quarterback competition is going to kick off.
49:51
[SPEAKER_01]: When it happens and when they get on the field, but
49:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I and Shelby Harris just did a podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This past week talking about, right?
50:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And he didn't do the podcast all of them, but had a segment where he was talking about Shador Sanders, they were asking about that.
50:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, I was impressed with the kid.
50:07
[SPEAKER_01]: He said he works as ass off.
50:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Shador Sanders works as ass off.
50:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, you know, there's a lot of stuff, you know, that he just can't control what people say, what people want to do, or people want to make about him.
50:18
[SPEAKER_01]: But like from a long time NFL veteran, a guy who's well respected in the league, Shelby Harris,
50:24
[SPEAKER_01]: was very impressed with Shidorah Sanders as a rookie and for me it just seems like Shidorah Sanders may not be the top of the top like elite quarterback potential and that kind of stuff.
50:41
[SPEAKER_01]: But we've seen those kind of players coming to league and then never do anything.
50:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, it's a lot about what are you willing to put into it, and should or standard about what counts as willing to put in everything, to being the best quarterback he can be in the NFL.
50:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's going to work.
50:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's going to work for the Browns.
51:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's going to work for Shador Sanders.
51:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's some point here whether it's with the Browns or whether we dig around with it too much and don't let him play and whatever and then he ends up going somewhere else in the next few years.
51:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to work.
51:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I think whether it's like a super high level of quarterback play that I'm not willing to predict yet.
51:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think can he play quality NFL starting quarterback for a team and, you know, play off caliber football?
51:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I do think that is definitely within the range of outcomes for Shidorah Sanders.
51:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm with the Amstone, the Shidorah Sanders train.
51:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, got him on a freaking fifth round contract on a rookie deal right now.
51:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what we can do here.
51:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what we can do and go from there.
51:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll start getting some more clarity and some more answers here as free ages the opens up and we get closer and closer to the NFL draft.
51:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Come in in April.
51:54
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Claude, thank you for the voice mail.
51:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Next one here is from Gabriel.
51:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's podcast, it is your friendly bump in your strength, every little back and once again.
52:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, it's been a while since I've sent a voicemail light, I've been really busy with life and college.
52:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to ask a question about the drought, in my mock drought, I had you guys at six taking Spencer Fado and then in pick 24, taking Denzo Boston.
52:18
[SPEAKER_03]: After hearing the Brown roster breakdown video, I did not realize your defense was as depleted as it was.
52:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you still want to go offense offense with picks 6 and picks 24 or do you want to go defense defense?
52:31
[SPEAKER_03]: And also for question for Brad Moneymaker, are you the Sam Brad Moneymaker from the show funding Bigfoot?
52:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Because in the show, the leader of the Bigfoot team is named as Brad Moneymaker.
52:42
[SPEAKER_03]: So I just wanted to ask that question.
52:45
[SPEAKER_03]: And then also, um, I do actually have one Cuban branch jersey.
52:49
[SPEAKER_03]: It is a poema, a tin couch jersey, and I do have a Browns 1999 patch.
52:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm eventually going to put on it.
52:57
[SPEAKER_03]: So one day maybe if I come on the discord, I will wear it and then also a message for Fenty with berating Josh all the time Fenty.
53:07
[SPEAKER_03]: It's getting annoying.
53:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Either that or we will have to settle things I'll have to go Fenty on you Fenty.
53:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyways, that's gonna do it for this the boys male, go brunt and go dog's podcast.
53:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, Gabriel.
53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for having my back here against Venti though.
53:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't gotten a message from him here recently since the last one, but always good to hear from Venti, you know, I obviously I don't know everything and not everything that I say turns out to be right my opinions or just opinions.
53:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't mean that I'm right that I'm wrong and not everybody agrees with me and that is totally A.
53:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, trust me.
53:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I hear it enough.
53:47
[SPEAKER_01]: in the comments on social media and YouTube and everywhere else.
53:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's totally fine.
53:51
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the way it's supposed to be.
53:53
[SPEAKER_01]: We're allowed to have discourse, but appreciate the voice mail.
53:57
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't want to go defense defense in the first round.
54:01
[SPEAKER_01]: If they did that, I think Brown's fans around the world would just completely collapse.
54:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it would be a riot.
54:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Would not be good.
54:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Would not be good.
54:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that we need
54:12
[SPEAKER_01]: We need cornerstone starting pieces on offense.
54:17
[SPEAKER_01]: We need capable starters and depth pieces on defense.
54:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I wouldn't go defense in the first round unless like, oh, I said earlier, if you're sitting at six in the guy like Arvel Reese, falls and nobody before you take some, it's like, man, how do you pass that up?
54:33
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you pass that up?
54:36
[SPEAKER_01]: and it's tough.
54:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It really is, but I do think it's got to be wide receiver tackle, tackle, wide receiver.
54:41
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to figure something out here again.
54:43
[SPEAKER_01]: If now we know a fan of your projecting them to eventually be a guard at the NFL level.
54:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that really worth the six overall pick?
54:54
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot for the Browns to figure out here before April.
54:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So don't let anybody fool you.
54:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And into thinking they have it all put together.
55:01
[SPEAKER_01]: They got a lot of work to do.
55:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously we got top 30 visits starting.
55:04
[SPEAKER_01]: There's gonna be pro days.
55:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Lot of draft stuff coming.
55:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So make sure you guys stay tuned for all of that.
55:11
[SPEAKER_01]: But thank you Gabriel for the voice mail.
55:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I do want to see you in the discord in that Tim Calch shares.
55:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's make that a priority.
55:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's make that happen here soon.
55:19
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so it looks like I got one last voicemail and it is from Claude.
55:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yet again, second voicemail today from our boy Claude.
55:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey gang, Claude from area, uh, I just saw just the fondings.
55:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Got released from the Patriots.
55:35
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about that?
55:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Is I feel like that's something that will be on the Browns radar because he's the type of player.
55:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the Browns kind of go after.
55:47
[SPEAKER_02]: What are your thoughts?
55:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Go Browns, we'll fall.
55:50
[SPEAKER_00]: No, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope
56:07
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't even know what else I say.
56:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just, no, absolutely not, no way in hell, no, no, no.
56:13
[SPEAKER_01]: He's old now and he's got his off-field issues.
56:18
[SPEAKER_01]: He is constantly in like court and with all the stuff on, there's no.
56:23
[SPEAKER_01]: No, not worth dealing with, not the type of
56:27
[SPEAKER_01]: older veteran, we want to add to any room on our roster, let alone the widers see for room.
56:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So, nope, I'm good.
56:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Hard pass on stuff on digs, his career for all intents and purposes is over.
56:40
[SPEAKER_01]: If he plays this, you know, upcoming season, it's going to be on a cheap deal somewhere and he'll probably end up getting cut through training camp or, you know, after the first month of the season, it's just
56:50
[SPEAKER_01]: that that's what we see for these type of players at this stage in their career when they start to get in trouble off the field and that just now.
56:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
56:58
[SPEAKER_01]: You got a super bull team who doesn't have any good wide receivers really.
57:04
[SPEAKER_01]: They definitely don't have like a wide receiver one, or wide receiver two really on their team, and they're cutting him.
57:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we don't need that mess on the Browns and Cleveland.
57:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So thanks for that last four is no claw.
57:19
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a no for me on Stefan Diggs.
57:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess if you guys disagree, if you guys out there listening watching wants to fund Diggs, let me know in the comments, tell me why, but otherwise I think we can find other receivers to help out this unit in 2026.
57:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate you guys tuning in.
57:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, happy Friday.
57:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Enjoy the weekend coming up.
57:40
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be coming back with you guys more episodes next week talking about free agency.
57:45
[SPEAKER_01]: The Browns are going to be finally signing players for this roster.
57:49
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get an idea.
57:50
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57:53
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58:05
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