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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, this is Angie.
- 0:01Speaker 2: And this is Riley, your favorite OK Storytime host. And
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- 0:11Speaker 1: I watched a wedding disaster in real time. I think
- 0:13Speaker 1: they'll be divorced in a year.
- 0:15Speaker 4: That's actually not a bad marriage.
- 0:16Speaker 1: I went to a wedding where the maid of honor
- 0:18Speaker 1: speech was about 10 minutes of her talking about how
- 0:21Speaker 1: many times the couple broke up and got back together. No.
- 0:24Speaker 1: And how much she hated him when she first met
- 0:27Speaker 1: him and grew to hate him more and more every
- 0:30Speaker 1: time he broke up with the bride. That's like the
- 0:33Speaker 1: type of speech where you're like, okay, when does it?
- 0:36Speaker 4: Where is this leading to?
- 0:37Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 0:38Speaker 1: She's like, I hated him so much. She talked about
- 0:41Speaker 1: a night she and the bride stayed up all night
- 0:43Speaker 1: consoling her through yet another breakup with the groom. Of course,
- 0:47Speaker 1: she made sure to include the story of how she
- 0:49Speaker 1: and the bride actually stopped talking for a chunk of
- 0:52Speaker 1: time because of him. I forgot that this is the
- 0:55Speaker 1: maid of honor who's making this speech. Yikes.
- 0:59Speaker 4: That's good context to have.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. This is not the bride saying, oh, yeah,
- 1:02Speaker 1: we broke up a bunch of times.
- 1:04Speaker 4: That is what I thought it was. And I was like,
- 1:05Speaker 4: how are they? How did they even get married?
- 1:07Speaker 1: How are they still together? Yeah, yeah.
- 1:08Speaker 5: No, it's.
- 1:09Speaker 4: Well, they're not. It's been a year probably.
- 1:10Speaker 1: It's only a year. This was like a 200-person wedding,
- 1:13Speaker 1: and the entire ballroom kept looking around, staring at each
- 1:16Speaker 1: other in disbelief. Thankfully, the best man went after her
- 1:19Speaker 1: and nailed it. No one forgot the maid of honor speech,
- 1:22Speaker 1: but it definitely softened the blow. You can't forget that.
- 1:25Speaker 1: You go home and tell everyone you know about that speech.
- 1:27Speaker 4: Yeah, someone probably livestreamed it, honestly.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, chat, what do you think about this
- 1:32Speaker 1: maid of honor speech? Top 10 maid of honor fails.
- 1:36Speaker 1: It's WatchMojo, actually. Our friend's dad owned the venue, so
- 1:39Speaker 1: when the servers started coming out, we reserved our food
- 1:42Speaker 1: before the bride and groom. Our friend was mortified and
- 1:46Speaker 1: apologized profusely to the whole table. And she wasn't BSing.
- 1:49Speaker 1: She looked like she was on the verge of tears.
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- 2:00Speaker 5: What up?
- 2:01Speaker 4: I'm Aaron. I'm a comic sometimes for some reason. I
- 2:04Speaker 4: also do data analytics for IHOP.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. Aaron's going to
- 2:07Speaker 1: help us read.
- 2:08Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 2:09Speaker 1: He can do it.
- 2:10Speaker 4: I can read. I really learned how. And I can
- 2:13Speaker 4: prove it, but she won't let me.
- 2:14Speaker 1: I won't let him. Opie says, thankfully, I don't think
- 2:18Speaker 1: the wedding party realized. But what then you thinks that's
- 2:21Speaker 1: the right decision? Anyway, the bride and groom did their
- 2:24Speaker 1: first dance, mother, son, father, daughter, etc. And then we're
- 2:27Speaker 1: off taking pictures, I guess. Maybe a quickie.
- 2:32Speaker 5: What?
- 2:32Speaker 4: Crazy.
- 2:32Speaker 3: Crazy.
- 2:33Speaker 5: At the wedding?
- 2:33Speaker 4: I don't think so.
- 2:34Speaker 1: I don't think so.
- 2:35Speaker 4: Probably just taking pictures.
- 2:36Speaker 1: Probably normal wedding stuff.
- 2:39Speaker 4: I think the person who wrote this might be a freak.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, maybe it was a quickie.
- 2:43Speaker 4: Maybe it was a quickie, and that's what.
- 2:46Speaker 1: I was hoping for. And dinner was long over, and
- 2:50Speaker 1: we were all just awkwardly sitting at our tables waiting
- 2:52Speaker 1: for the dance floor to open up. One of the
- 2:54Speaker 1: bridesmaids caught on to how bored everyone was, so she
- 2:57Speaker 1: took it upon herself to get the DJ going and
- 2:59Speaker 1: started the dancing. And everyone finally started having fun. That
- 3:03Speaker 1: fun came to a halt when the bride came back
- 3:05Speaker 1: and got mad at the bridesmaid for doing this. Yelling
- 3:08Speaker 1: at her saying, she wanted to be the one who
- 3:10Speaker 1: started the dancing. The DJ also didn't let a single
- 3:13Speaker 1: song play all the way through without some random transition
- 3:16Speaker 1: into the next song. Or just getting on the microphone
- 3:19Speaker 1: to yell some random sentences trying to be a very
- 3:21Speaker 1: bad hype man. Have you been to a lot of weddings?
- 3:25Speaker 6: Uh.
- 3:25Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been to a good amount.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been to a lot of family weddings, and
- 3:30Speaker 1: every so often there's a bad DJ.
- 3:33Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the best wedding I've been to had
- 3:36Speaker 4: a very good DJ and made all the difference.
- 3:38Speaker 1: I thought you were going to be like, the best
- 3:39Speaker 1: wedding had a terrible DJ. Yeah, the DJ really counts.
- 3:43Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like the DJ just wasn't doing his job.
- 3:47Speaker 1: At the end of the night, the DJ made an
- 3:48Speaker 1: announcement that they had a special guest. And out came
- 3:52Speaker 1: the groom's college mascot. Maybe this would be fun if
- 3:56Speaker 1: it was a big party school or a school with
- 3:58Speaker 1: a ton of school spirit. But like everyone who went there,
- 4:01Speaker 1: my fiance included, hated it. Got out of there as
- 4:04Speaker 1: soon as possible. They didn't even have a football team.
- 4:08Speaker 1: The mascots presence also came as a shock to the
- 4:10Speaker 1: bride who wasn't told about this idea. And we could
- 4:14Speaker 1: see them in the back of the room bickering about it.
- 4:17Speaker 1: I mean, sort of fair, but keep it under wraps
- 4:19Speaker 1: until y'all get home. The bride and groom invited everyone
- 4:22Speaker 1: out to the bars after, and literally all of our
- 4:25Speaker 1: friends except those in the wedding party chose to go
- 4:27Speaker 1: home because at that point, all we wanted was our
- 4:30Speaker 1: beds and not in a fun way. We got updates
- 4:34Speaker 1: from our wedding party friends in the group chat. Bride
- 4:37Speaker 1: was again yelling at that one bridesmaid who was now crying.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Groomsmen blacked out. Someone lost their credit card. The bride
- 4:44Speaker 1: and groom were still bickering about the mascot. Bride later
- 4:47Speaker 1: threw up on her dress. Girl. There's a little bit
- 4:51Speaker 1: left of this story. Do you have any final thoughts?
- 4:54Speaker 4: Honestly, I just, I have no final thoughts. I have
- 4:57Speaker 4: a lot of questions.
- 4:58Speaker 1: I don't know if I can answer them, but ask away.
- 5:00Speaker 4: Like, so one, the maid of honor, she wrote this, right?
- 5:05Speaker 1: I think OP is just like a person attending the wedding, yeah.
- 5:08Speaker 4: Wedding attendee.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Yeah, she's just a regular gal.
- 5:12Speaker 4: I guess final thoughts are that one year might be
- 5:15Speaker 4: a little ambitious, honestly.
- 5:16Speaker 1: Yeah, for this wedding. I'm impressed if they could get
- 5:20Speaker 1: to that.
- 5:21Speaker 4: I'm honestly impressed that they didn't divorce before OP wrote
- 5:24Speaker 4: this story.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Then about a week after the wedding, anyone who didn't
- 5:27Speaker 1: give a gift or cash, the groom reached out to
- 5:29Speaker 1: them via text asking if their credit cards weren't working
- 5:33Speaker 1: on the registry website. I have my opinions on no gifters,
- 5:36Speaker 1: but regardless, I had the hardest time choosing between flares. OMG,
- 5:41Speaker 1: it was a nightmare. And edit to add, when the
- 5:43Speaker 1: couple got engaged, the groom's best friend sat him down
- 5:46Speaker 1: and told him no one really likes his fiancee. and
- 5:49Speaker 1: asks him if he actually wanted to go through with it,
- 5:52Speaker 1: they'll be divorced in a year. Yikes.
- 5:56Speaker 4: Can we go back to the him hounding guests for gifts?
- 6:01Speaker 4: That's crazy, right?
- 6:02Speaker 1: That is insane. It is a little bit bad for
- 6:05Speaker 1: a person to not give a wedding gift, but you're
- 6:08Speaker 1: just like, oh, that person kind of, you know, they're
- 6:10Speaker 1: not who I thought they were, but you keep that
- 6:12Speaker 1: to yourself.
- 6:12Speaker 4: Yeah, like, you know when someone hits you with the
- 6:15Speaker 4: Venmo reminder? This feels like that, but more personal.
- 6:18Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 6:18Speaker 1: It's like if someone texted you and was like, hey,
- 6:22Speaker 1: they had a birthday party and they're like, where's my gift?
- 6:25Speaker 4: Where's my gift? This is paid, right? How much am
- 6:27Speaker 4: I getting for this?
- 6:28Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Your issues. Venmo reminder. I hated my wedding and I
- 6:34Speaker 1: want a remake.
- 6:35Speaker 4: Lucky for you, 50% of marriages end in divorce.
- 6:38Speaker 1: I hated my wedding on the day I was happy
- 6:41Speaker 1: because I can honestly say I married my best friend.
- 6:43Speaker 1: But looking back, I'm filled with regret and outright sadness
- 6:47Speaker 1: over the event itself. We had an extremely small wedding
- 6:50Speaker 1: with only 14 people, but it was still pricey and
- 6:53Speaker 1: involved a lot of planning.
- 6:55Speaker 4: How much planning do you really need for a 14-person wedding?
- 6:58Speaker 4: That's a dinner.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Yeah, you could do that on a school night.
- 7:03Speaker 5: That's not a wedding.
- 7:03Speaker 4: That's like a small gathering.
- 7:06Speaker 1: We got married at the courthouse, then had a cocktail
- 7:08Speaker 1: hour in a private room in a fancy restaurant, followed
- 7:11Speaker 1: by a sit-down multi-course meal, a dessert hour, food was delicious,
- 7:14Speaker 1: I'll say that, and wrapped up the night at a
- 7:17Speaker 1: bar where the tab was covered as well. I had
- 7:19Speaker 1: planned things meticulously despite the small size. Still, so many
- 7:24Speaker 1: things went wrong that day.
- 7:26Speaker 4: How many things can go wrong at a 14-person wedding?
- 7:29Speaker 4: Do you just marry the wrong person?
- 7:30Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the wrong thing. Oh, he's like, well, 13
- 7:33Speaker 1: people showed up. So already we're off to a bad start.
- 7:36Speaker 4: It's unlucky.
- 7:37Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just unlucky. Yeah, someone has to leave or
- 7:40Speaker 1: someone has to come.
- 7:41Speaker 4: Also, I do want to say, I like how she
- 7:42Speaker 4: was like, the tab was covered by, it's a wedding.
- 7:45Speaker 4: I would hope that the bar tab is covered.
- 7:47Speaker 1: For starters, the professional bridal hair company I'd hired just
- 7:50Speaker 1: flat out didn't show up. I cannot say who it was,
- 7:53Speaker 1: as they literally made me sign a non-disclosure to get
- 7:56Speaker 1: my money back. It was a nightmare. Due to this,
- 7:59Speaker 1: we were very late for photos. By the way, this
- 8:02Speaker 1: comes from YayDeno, and if you want to submit your
- 8:04Speaker 1: own stories, go to the r slash showcase story time subreddit.
- 8:07Speaker 1: I'm Sophia.
- 8:09Speaker 4: I'm YayDeno underscore one.
- 8:11Speaker 3: What?
- 8:12Speaker 1: This is your story?
- 8:13Speaker 4: No, it's just a weird coincidence.
- 8:14Speaker 7: That's Aaron. Hey, I'm Aaron.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Opie says, my parents went to City Hall and not
- 8:19Speaker 1: the courthouse and almost missed our time slot. and proceeded
- 8:23Speaker 1: to scream at me despite the text instructions I'd sent
- 8:26Speaker 1: being very clearly accurate. The cake was objectively disgusting and
- 8:30Speaker 1: flat-out ugly. I was actually embarrassed. We had who we
- 8:34Speaker 1: thought was a close friend choose to go on a
- 8:36Speaker 1: cruise that same weekend. They let it slip one night
- 8:39Speaker 1: that this was not an accident, and they knew about
- 8:41Speaker 1: our day. Could have chosen another time.
- 8:44Speaker 4: It was almost a 15-person wedding.
- 8:45Speaker 5: Now that's a party.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Yeah, if you went over 14, everything before then, again,
- 8:50Speaker 1: a gathering.
- 8:51Speaker 4: A gathering.
- 8:51Speaker 1: But 15.
- 8:52Speaker 4: Now that's a wedding.
- 8:53Speaker 5: Now we're at a wedding, yeah.
- 8:54Speaker 1: We have no idea what we did to this friend
- 8:56Speaker 1: to make them do that. We got the hint, though, regardless,
- 8:59Speaker 1: and stopped communicating with them. We've got a little bit
- 9:02Speaker 1: left to this story. How do you, what does OP
- 9:07Speaker 1: do in this situation where everything's going wrong?
- 9:09Speaker 4: So I'm not going to lie. Initially, I was like,
- 9:11Speaker 4: why would you throw another wedding? But now I'm like, honestly,
- 9:14Speaker 4: you never even threw a wedding.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't. You didn't have 15 people there. You
- 9:18Speaker 1: could just add one more person and then.
- 9:20Speaker 4: You, yeah. Because obviously the other person is probably going
- 9:23Speaker 4: to go. I just keep switching. I'm just going to
- 9:25Speaker 4: keep switching back and forth and give someone a seizure.
- 9:27Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
- 9:28Speaker 1: That's what we want.
- 9:30Speaker 4: So, yeah, I mean, the friend who went on a cruise,
- 9:33Speaker 4: do you think they still get the invite for the
- 9:34Speaker 4: next one or no?
- 9:35Speaker 1: No, I think they're done. They're cut off?
- 9:38Speaker 4: They should do the next wedding on a cruise, same cruise,
- 9:41Speaker 4: and not invite them. And then it's a statement.
- 9:43Speaker 1: We had another friend blurt out at dinner, is this free?
- 9:46Speaker 1: I want to keep drinking. Yes, it was free to her.
- 9:49Speaker 1: We paid. Then she proceeded to order the most expensive
- 9:52Speaker 1: whiskey they had. She literally asked the waitress what the
- 9:55Speaker 1: most expensive one was, as if it was owed to
- 9:58Speaker 1: her because she showed up.
- 9:59Speaker 5: No comment.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Or nothing from her gift-wise after that behavior, too.
- 10:02Speaker 5: Wow.
- 10:03Speaker 1: You have bad friends. I think we just should start
- 10:06Speaker 1: over because you have bad friends.
- 10:07Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, at this point, she could throw another wedding
- 10:10Speaker 4: and just all new people. It's like you never even
- 10:13Speaker 4: had a wedding in the first place.
- 10:14Speaker 1: And another friend showed up in completely dirty clothing from
- 10:17Speaker 1: biking all day. No, I'm not kidding. He's an avid
- 10:20Speaker 1: bicyclist and straight up showed up like that. Then I
- 10:24Speaker 1: got an earful from my parents for weeks about how
- 10:26Speaker 1: stupid it was that we had a honeymoon fund on
- 10:29Speaker 1: the cake table in the corner of the room, despite
- 10:32Speaker 1: not having a registry or bridal shower or bachelorette or
- 10:35Speaker 1: bachelor parties and all expenses being covered by us. And
- 10:39Speaker 1: each thought we never mentioned it or anything at all.
- 10:42Speaker 1: Is it crazy that I want to redo?
- 10:44Speaker 4: Honestly, not crazy.
- 10:45Speaker 1: Not crazy. If you were saying, I had a 100-person
- 10:49Speaker 1: wedding in, I don't know, like Italy, and I want
- 10:53Speaker 1: to do a redo of that, I'd be like, that's silly.
- 10:55Speaker 1: You don't need all that.
- 10:56Speaker 4: I think run it back.
- 10:57Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you could do it again.
- 10:59Speaker 4: Run it back. You have to invite us.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Yeah, you can hire us. You have to pay us.
- 11:05Speaker 4: We're going to bike there, though. We care about the environment.
- 11:07Speaker 1: We do, we do. We don't want to, you know.
- 11:09Speaker 1: Use gas or anything. But we'll be at your wedding
- 11:12Speaker 1: and it'll be way better. Yeah.
- 11:13Speaker 4: You're welcome.
- 11:15Speaker 3: And that's the end of the story. We're going to
- 11:16Speaker 3: go on to the next one.
- 11:18Speaker 1: The bridezilla banned her bridesmaids from getting pregnant, so they quit.
- 11:22Speaker 7: If we can't get impregnated, we're done here.
- 11:26Speaker 1: One of my sister-in-laws is a psychologist who has the
- 11:29Speaker 1: unfortunate pleasure of working with an atrociously self-centered me-me-me type.
- 11:35Speaker 1: And my sister-in-law actually knows what she's talking about, who's
- 11:38Speaker 1: getting married later this year. The private clinic where they
- 11:40Speaker 1: work has a number of these types because the practice
- 11:43Speaker 1: actively goes after rich, high-profile clients, offering them a fancy
- 11:48Speaker 1: Hilton of healthcare experience. The management is even more toxic,
- 11:53Speaker 1: and everything is about pandering to wealthy clients, even when
- 11:55Speaker 1: it puts proper care at risk. My sister-in-law stays because
- 11:59Speaker 1: the hours are flexible and she can charge high fees,
- 12:02Speaker 1: so her student debt is vanishing fast. and they'll be
- 12:05Speaker 1: able to put down a sizable deposit for a place
- 12:07Speaker 1: in a nice area. Anyway, I get to hear about
- 12:10Speaker 1: a lot of the goings-on because a lot of the
- 12:12Speaker 1: staff come to her to vent, since she's such a
- 12:14Speaker 1: sweetheart and is seen as a neutral ground. So Melissa,
- 12:18Speaker 1: not her real name, is particularly the bane of everyone's
- 12:21Speaker 1: existence because she's the daughter of the clinic's owners. Ah, nepotism!
- 12:26Speaker 1: Melissa was placed into a management role straight out of university,
- 12:30Speaker 1: a job usually reserved for people with years of real experience.
- 12:33Speaker 1: She has no management skills, qualifications, or experience. She knows
- 12:38Speaker 1: it and knows the only reason she has the job
- 12:41Speaker 1: is because her parents own the place. She also knows
- 12:44Speaker 1: she's stuck there because if anything happened to the clinic,
- 12:46Speaker 1: she'd be unemployable elsewhere since it's not a huge industry
- 12:50Speaker 1: and everyone knows everyone. By the way, this comes from
- 12:53Speaker 1: Speedy Pete's. And if you want to submit your own stories,
- 12:56Speaker 1: go to the r slash showcase story time subreddit. I'm Sophia.
- 12:59Speaker 7: I'm Dakota.
- 13:00Speaker 1: And we're here to give good advice goofily, but we
- 13:01Speaker 1: don't have all the answers. So if you've got answers,
- 13:03Speaker 1: put them down below. And Opie says she likes to
- 13:06Speaker 1: bully staff who can't defend themselves and is the biggest
- 13:09Speaker 1: suck up to anyone she thinks she can use or
- 13:13Speaker 1: who's a famous or wealthy client. Toxic 101, basically. She
- 13:16Speaker 1: makes everyone's daily life about her and whatever wannabe IG
- 13:20Speaker 1: famous thing she dreams up. Yes, Melissa also thinks she's
- 13:24Speaker 1: an influencer of some status and trendsetter. Except almost everything
- 13:29Speaker 1: she does is a painful copy of the million others
- 13:31Speaker 1: who've already done the same thing. Honestly, though, that's how
- 13:35Speaker 1: you do it.
- 13:36Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sensing.
- 13:37Speaker 6: A little bit of a tilt on OP's perspective here.
- 13:42Speaker 1: It doesn't even feel like OP actually knows this person.
- 13:44Speaker 1: It's just through the eyes of her cousin. Her cousin?
- 13:48Speaker 7: Sister-in-law.
- 13:49Speaker 1: A sister-in-law who hates Melissa.
- 13:52Speaker 7: And like, yeah, Nepo baby.
- 13:53Speaker 1: Yeah, Melissa comes home and she's like, let me tell
- 13:56Speaker 1: you about this Nepo baby Instagram wannabe, freaking terrible at
- 14:02Speaker 1: her job. And Opie's like, wow, let me tell, and
- 14:05Speaker 1: then she comes to Reddit, let me tell you about
- 14:07Speaker 1: my sister-in-laws.
- 14:08Speaker 7: Yeah, let me tell you about Melissa.
- 14:10Speaker 1: Including her upcoming wedding to some minor sporting star. Every
- 14:14Speaker 1: morning team meeting, they're given an update on Melissa's wedding
- 14:17Speaker 1: progress in excruciating detail.
- 14:19Speaker 7: In the team meeting?
- 14:20Speaker 1: Yes, in the team meeting. They're like, okay, so we're
- 14:22Speaker 1: going to have some new clients coming in and also
- 14:24Speaker 1: Melissa's wedding. Don't forget everyone. She wants you to look
- 14:28Speaker 1: at the wedding registry.
- 14:29Speaker 6: Imagine we had a team meeting and it was like
- 14:31Speaker 6: a chunk of it was dedicated to all of us
- 14:33Speaker 6: updating everyone on our relationships.
- 14:35Speaker 1: Are we single dating? What's happening? She's been planning this
- 14:39Speaker 1: for over a year already, and woe betide anyone who
- 14:42Speaker 1: dares to point out they need to get on with
- 14:44Speaker 1: actual work during her updates. There's no conversation anyone can
- 14:48Speaker 1: have that she won't insert herself and her wedding into constantly.
- 14:53Speaker 1: It seems like she's desperately trying to outdo her future
- 14:56Speaker 1: sister-in-law's wedding. The sister of Melissa's fiancé, who's apparently a
- 14:59Speaker 1: lovely down-to-earth guy, as is his sister. That sister-in-law is
- 15:03Speaker 1: married to a major professional sportsman and is one of
- 15:07Speaker 1: the local celebrity wives. So far, the wedding planning madness
- 15:10Speaker 1: has included six weeks of barely doing any actual work
- 15:13Speaker 1: while she contacted venues, a destination wedding, of course, during
- 15:17Speaker 1: work hours trying to find something flashier that would be
- 15:20Speaker 1: the right aesthetic for us. Yet part of that aesthetic
- 15:23Speaker 1: is having the most bland, predictable menu, think nuggets and chips,
- 15:27Speaker 1: that she's already drawn up, including how it would be
- 15:30Speaker 1: prepared and served on the day. Melissa presented those demands
- 15:33Speaker 1: as non-negotiable to the venues because of her supposed life-risking allergies,
- 15:39Speaker 1: which conveniently aren't trouble when she wants to eat something
- 15:43Speaker 1: someone brought in for their own lunch at work. These
- 15:45Speaker 1: are venues known for their world-class chefs and creative food,
- 15:49Speaker 1: so she was most surprised... read furious when turned down
- 15:53Speaker 1: by most.
- 15:53Speaker 6: Of them we're we're not doing dino nuggies at the
- 15:57Speaker 6: three star michelin deconstruction restaurant.
- 16:01Speaker 1: They deconstruct the nuggets it's yeah.
- 16:03Speaker 7: It's just a whole baby chicken that's alive.
- 16:06Speaker 1: Dang i think that's illegal in most.
- 16:08Speaker 7: Places the meal is that you have to take it
- 16:10Speaker 7: home and raise.
- 16:10Speaker 1: It oh interesting and then you have to you have
- 16:13Speaker 1: to unalive it yourself.
- 16:15Speaker 6: Yeah, you actually, you set two reservations at the restaurant,
- 16:18Speaker 6: one for when you pick up the chicken and then
- 16:20Speaker 6: you have the second reservation to bring it in and
- 16:22Speaker 6: it gets slaughtered and turned into your food.
- 16:24Speaker 1: One place eventually agreed to do her menu, but at
- 16:26Speaker 1: a massive premium per head. A month-long saga about invitations.
- 16:31Speaker 1: I never thought choosing a font and envelope size could
- 16:34Speaker 1: be so fraught. She also posted on her socials every time,
- 16:37Speaker 1: another batch flying with love, when invitations were put in
- 16:41Speaker 1: a postbox. A month of drama posted online with her
- 16:44Speaker 1: over-the-top teary reaction videos asking each of her 11 bridesmaids,
- 16:48Speaker 1: 10 maids, one maid of honor, will you be my bridesmaid?
- 16:53Speaker 1: They said yes. Done over a month because she took
- 16:55Speaker 1: them each out to dinner, complete with personalized cakes, asking
- 16:59Speaker 1: the question at ridiculously expensive restaurants. Once they had agreed,
- 17:03Speaker 1: the poor things were given a contract to sign, which
- 17:05Speaker 1: was live-streamed to some kind of Zoom meeting with the
- 17:09Speaker 1: bride and groom's family watching. It included task lists, rules,
- 17:13Speaker 1: and financial obligations, with immense pressure to sign right there
- 17:16Speaker 1: during the meeting. Looks like those poor women are going
- 17:19Speaker 1: to be funding a lot of things because, of course,
- 17:21Speaker 1: the bride does not pay for her special day. I mean, like, famously, yes,
- 17:25Speaker 1: they do.
- 17:26Speaker 7: Yeah, that's kind of how it works, you know? Like, yeah.
- 17:29Speaker 1: And if you can't afford that, You can't have a wedding.
- 17:33Speaker 6: The contract is crazy work. I'd be like, oh, sorry, no,
- 17:37Speaker 6: this is weird.
- 17:39Speaker 1: There are multiple week-long destination events that bridesmaids are expected
- 17:43Speaker 1: to attend and fund. Bridal showers, yes, plural, a destination
- 17:48Speaker 1: week-long bachelorette, and some kind of bridecation, the week of
- 17:51Speaker 1: the weddings that the bridesmaids are expected to fund but
- 17:54Speaker 1: cannot attend. They're also paying for their own dresses, hair, makeup, artists, accommodation, flights,
- 18:00Speaker 1: and a gift for the bride. Any pushback has been
- 18:03Speaker 1: met with bullying from Melissa until they give in. She's
- 18:05Speaker 1: most recently decided that no one but the videographer and
- 18:08Speaker 1: photographer her future sister-in-law used is suitable, so she's using
- 18:12Speaker 1: them along with the same bakery and wanting the same DJ.
- 18:16Speaker 1: That caused issues because the DJ... is a longtime friend
- 18:19Speaker 1: of the sister-in-law's father. And when Melissa started demanding they
- 18:22Speaker 1: DJ the wedding, he quite rightly told her to foxtrot Oscar.
- 18:27Speaker 1: She was also discussing having an additional ceremony coordinator on
- 18:30Speaker 1: top of her wedding coordinator and venue coordinators. She's also
- 18:34Speaker 1: hiring someone just to make social media content for her
- 18:37Speaker 1: so she can have more time to focus on herself
- 18:39Speaker 1: during this emotional process. The amount of money being spent
- 18:43Speaker 1: must be over the 100k mark. My sister-in-law isn't even
- 18:47Speaker 1: sure if the groom's been asked about anything he wants,
- 18:50Speaker 1: as Melissa vetoed who he could have as groomsmen, what
- 18:53Speaker 1: they can wear, and even what he can do for
- 18:55Speaker 1: his stag weekend. The drama today was more of the same.
- 18:58Speaker 1: In the middle of all this, two other employees had
- 19:01Speaker 1: the nerve to independently announce they're getting married. two different people,
- 19:06Speaker 1: and Melissa lost it at them very publicly during the meeting.
- 19:09Speaker 1: She's apparently putting in a formal complaint about their unprofessional
- 19:12Speaker 1: behavior during a staff meeting and wanting them publicly disciplined.
- 19:16Speaker 1: That is so hypocritical. Dang. Dang. We're going to be like,
- 19:21Speaker 1: I can't believe they would talk about their weddings during
- 19:24Speaker 1: our work meeting. Only I can do that. Ridiculous.
- 19:28Speaker 7: Like, what does she think is going to happen?
- 19:31Speaker 6: She thinks she's fully bulletproof, but like, Now she's starting
- 19:35Speaker 6: something that's going to end with it being like, yeah, actually,
- 19:38Speaker 6: this is all your fault for making that environment in
- 19:42Speaker 6: the first place.
- 19:43Speaker 1: They're fairly new staff and had no idea no one
- 19:46Speaker 1: else is allowed to have a life or a wedding.
- 19:48Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see the outcome. because i think
- 19:50Speaker 1: they'd have a good case against her and we do
- 19:53Speaker 1: have an update and we'll just keep.
- 19:55Speaker 6: Going yeah i hope they get fired so they can
- 19:58Speaker 6: get a wrongful termination lawsuit.
- 20:00Speaker 1: So the dress has finally been decided according to those
- 20:04Speaker 1: who've done this before melissa has cut it extremely close
- 20:07Speaker 1: with less than a year to the wedding particularly having
- 20:10Speaker 1: it customized quite a bit. It's some exclusive Australian designer gown,
- 20:14Speaker 1: tweaked into a backless, strapless, deeply plunging, thigh-high slit, extremely figure-hugging, swarf-ski,
- 20:21Speaker 1: of course, encrusted floor-length number with a built-in train that
- 20:25Speaker 1: extends a meter or so behind her. In super bright white,
- 20:28Speaker 1: of course, and from the pictures, it's quite sheer between
- 20:30Speaker 1: the crystal design areas. It looks like one of those
- 20:33Speaker 1: gowns where you look amazing standing up or walking down
- 20:36Speaker 1: the aisle, but doing anything else is going to be
- 20:39Speaker 1: uncomfortable and you need several people to help you go
- 20:42Speaker 1: to the bathroom. Someone asked how Melissa was going to
- 20:44Speaker 1: dance at the reception as they're doing some complex choreographed
- 20:48Speaker 1: bridal dance involving all the bridesmaids and groomsmen. This is
- 20:51Speaker 1: when she revealed she'll be wearing a different dress for
- 20:54Speaker 1: the reception with more stretch in rose gold. Her theme
- 20:57Speaker 1: colors are rose gold, apricot, and dark navy blue. which
- 21:01Speaker 1: actually seems quite lovely. So I wonder if they're the
- 21:03Speaker 1: same as her future sister-in-law's wedding colors, whom she copies slavishly.
- 21:08Speaker 1: The mothers and grandmothers are restricted to apricot outfits. The
- 21:12Speaker 1: bridesmaids will be in dark navy and something figure-hugging. That
- 21:15Speaker 1: leads into the recent bridesmaid drama. As part of the
- 21:18Speaker 1: agreement they all signed, Melissa included clauses about none of
- 21:22Speaker 1: them being allowed to get publicly engaged, married, or change
- 21:26Speaker 1: their appearance significantly. That last part is decided at the
- 21:29Speaker 1: discretion of Melissa, because she's obviously dictated a certain look
- 21:32Speaker 1: they all must have and chosen the bridesmaids accordingly. Melissa
- 21:36Speaker 1: is in her mid-30s and the bridesmaids are of similar age.
- 21:39Speaker 1: This is where the problem rose. A couple of the
- 21:42Speaker 1: bridesmaids had been very quietly going through IVF, and although
- 21:45Speaker 1: not currently pregnant, Melissa found out and demanded they cease
- 21:49Speaker 1: trying until after the wedding, reminding them they agreed not
- 21:53Speaker 1: to make significant appearance changes. Quite rightly, they told her
- 21:56Speaker 1: she was out of her mind and they wouldn't be stopping.
- 21:58Speaker 1: Because any disruption to their plans could mean the difference
- 22:01Speaker 1: between never or ever having children. So they got told
- 22:06Speaker 1: they were no longer in the bridal party. Well, dang, dang,
- 22:11Speaker 1: oh man, I can't be in the bridal party where
- 22:13Speaker 1: I have to pay thousands of dollars.
- 22:16Speaker 6: I'm sure that's not going to start the dominoes of
- 22:20Speaker 6: all of your bridesmaids pulling out because they're not going
- 22:23Speaker 6: to foot the $ 20, 000 bill you're trying to give them.
- 22:26Speaker 1: My sister-in-law says Melissa has been going on and on
- 22:29Speaker 1: about how dare they ruin their wedding and has been
- 22:32Speaker 1: very ostentatiously in contact with her parents' lawyers because she's
- 22:36Speaker 1: having trouble getting others to take their place. Maybe news
- 22:39Speaker 1: traveled fast about the outrageous demand. I presume she thinks
- 22:43Speaker 1: her ridiculous contract can actually be enforced. Personally, I think
- 22:46Speaker 1: they might end up being the lucky ones getting f * * *
- 22:48Speaker 1: ed out before they did end up expecting and Melissa
- 22:52Speaker 1: detrimentally affecting the pregnancy. Another update! I'm just really curious
- 22:58Speaker 1: what Melissa is telling OP's sister-in-law. Because it seems like
- 23:02Speaker 1: OP's sister-in-law has kind of somehow intuited what the bridesmaids
- 23:07Speaker 1: are feeling. She's intuited the bad stuff underneath what Melissa
- 23:11Speaker 1: is telling. And I need to know how she did
- 23:13Speaker 1: that and what Melissa is saying.
- 23:15Speaker 6: I'm sure everyone around the office is talking about the
- 23:19Speaker 6: insane contracts.
- 23:22Speaker 7: I'm sure.
- 23:23Speaker 1: They're probably like, oh, can we see those contracts? Just
- 23:26Speaker 1: say more. I feel like everyone is, you know what
- 23:29Speaker 1: I think is happening? I think Melissa is both telling
- 23:31Speaker 1: everyone things, but everyone is so invested in this insane
- 23:34Speaker 1: story that they're not asking her questions.
- 23:36Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 23:37Speaker 6: They're just rolling with, they're like, I'd like to see
- 23:39Speaker 6: how this plays out. And she's got like a clause
- 23:41Speaker 6: in the contract. It's like, and also I, I'm forever
- 23:45Speaker 6: like the prettiest princess and no one will, none of
- 23:47Speaker 6: you will ever be prettier than me.
- 23:49Speaker 7: And that's a rule.
- 23:50Speaker 1: My magic mirror told me that I'm the prettiest princess
- 23:52Speaker 1: in the world.
- 23:54Speaker 6: Yes, I have to be the prettiest princess or my
- 23:56Speaker 6: magic mirror will suck your soul out and you'll live
- 23:58Speaker 6: in my magic mirror.
- 23:59Speaker 1: Update two. There was more drama, of course. And yes,
- 24:03Speaker 1: the wedding did go ahead in the end. I'm not
- 24:05Speaker 1: normally a betting person, but I'd have put good money
- 24:09Speaker 1: on it not happening. So I'm glad I didn't. So
- 24:11Speaker 1: 11 bridesmaids ended up being six, five maids and a
- 24:16Speaker 1: new maid of honor. The original two who were fired
- 24:19Speaker 1: for daring to want babies were possibly sent letters by
- 24:22Speaker 1: solicitors or not. The posturing went on a while longer
- 24:26Speaker 1: and then stopped. The best guess of sister-in-law and her
- 24:29Speaker 1: colleagues is that she probably did attempt to make it happen.
- 24:32Speaker 1: They paid a lot of money consulting the family lawyers,
- 24:35Speaker 1: only to be told, diplomatically, that she was out of
- 24:38Speaker 1: her mind and no court would uphold her contracts, particularly
- 24:42Speaker 1: with evidence of pressure on various meeting recordings.
- 24:45Speaker 7: That's so funny. I know that lawyer was just like, oh,
- 24:48Speaker 7: free money.
- 24:50Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:50Speaker 6: Oh, you want me to enforce your bridesmaid contract legally?
- 24:54Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll see what I can do about that.
- 24:57Speaker 7: Let me bill you for 70 hours.
- 24:59Speaker 1: Another two bridesmaids bowed out along the way, probably realizing
- 25:02Speaker 1: the depth of the insanity and cutting their losses. Her
- 25:06Speaker 1: maid of honor apparently got lucky, claimed pregnancy and resigned
- 25:09Speaker 1: the position. Finding replacements proved impossible. Surprising, I know. So
- 25:14Speaker 1: Melissa eventually had to reduce her number. She was obviously
- 25:16Speaker 1: getting desperate, having no luck threatening or cajoling anyone into
- 25:20Speaker 1: saying yes. So most likely was told by her family
- 25:23Speaker 1: to suck it up and ask her younger and possibly
- 25:26Speaker 1: more attractive sister, who was then drafted in as maid
- 25:29Speaker 1: of honor.
- 25:29Speaker 6: Dang, you know that one stings, the hotter sister.
- 25:33Speaker 1: Melissa and her sister don't get along, so she wasn't
- 25:36Speaker 1: the original choice for any position. This meant Melissa pressured
- 25:39Speaker 1: the groom to downsize his groomsmen to match her new,
- 25:42Speaker 1: best-ever-brands-made team. This was after initially pressuring him to choose
- 25:46Speaker 1: 11 people from her pre-vetted list, because 11 was their
- 25:49Speaker 1: lucky number. Obviously, some of those gentlemen did not meet
- 25:53Speaker 1: Melissa's exacting appearance standards, or were just famous enough to
- 25:57Speaker 1: take attention away from her, so they couldn't possibly have
- 26:00Speaker 1: been accidentally caught in a photograph. He still did not
- 26:03Speaker 1: walk away from this terrible wedding. Melissa had to settle
- 26:07Speaker 1: for someone else to DJ, as no amount of tantrums
- 26:10Speaker 1: were changing the original person's mind. That became a trash
- 26:13Speaker 1: fest at one staff meeting about how the original DJ
- 26:16Speaker 1: choice was a loser and a second rate and missing
- 26:19Speaker 1: out on exposure opportunities as this wedding will be in
- 26:23Speaker 1: all the social pages.
- 26:24Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sure it's going to be all across town.
- 26:29Speaker 5: It's sweeping the nation.
- 26:31Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about Melissa's wedding.
- 26:34Speaker 7: And also, you owe her $ 50.
- 26:38Speaker 1: Everyone who read this post owes Melissa money.
- 26:41Speaker 5: Yes.
- 26:42Speaker 1: I'm sure whoever DJed on the day wished they could
- 26:45Speaker 1: tell her to F off too. So I hope they
- 26:47Speaker 1: charged well. The bakery must be used to outlandish demands.
- 26:50Speaker 1: So apart from her complaining about how much the cake cost...
- 26:53Speaker 1: was relatively drama-free. Most of the pre-wedding events went as
- 26:57Speaker 1: well as you'd expect, basically trying to squeeze people for
- 27:00Speaker 1: money to fund her fantasy lifestyle. She eventually had to
- 27:03Speaker 1: scale back some things because the remaining bridal party simply
- 27:07Speaker 1: could not afford all her demands, and she couldn't push
- 27:09Speaker 1: them too hard or risk them quitting too. Instead, she
- 27:13Speaker 1: hit her parents up to fund some things because daddy
- 27:15Speaker 1: never says no to his friends. Daddy funded her bridecation
- 27:19Speaker 1: week in full, which I'm surprised more people didn't chip
- 27:23Speaker 1: in for to get rid of Melissa for a week.
- 27:26Speaker 1: Nothing was mentioned about the groom's stag weekend. I don't
- 27:29Speaker 1: think he gets one.
- 27:30Speaker 7: Yeah, they just went to, like, Chili's.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, whatever, I don't even care. Once Melissa
- 27:36Speaker 1: and Mr. Melissa returned from her month-long honeymoon, sorry, their honeymoon,
- 27:41Speaker 1: more tea was spilled. A sister-in-law and several co-workers obviously
- 27:46Speaker 1: don't believe everything Melissa said went wrong, but found it
- 27:49Speaker 1: entertaining enough to have a good laugh about it. According
- 27:52Speaker 1: to Melissa, she clearly stated this was to be a
- 27:54Speaker 1: completely child-free wedding. No children under any circumstances.
- 27:59Speaker 7: That's why she didn't want the pregnancy.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Yeah, no children under any circumstances, even if they're in
- 28:05Speaker 1: your belly.
- 28:06Speaker 7: Even if they're not cooked all the way yet.
- 28:08Speaker 1: Even the ring bearer and flower girls, the children of
- 28:10Speaker 1: Melissa's older sister, were supposed to be brought in just
- 28:13Speaker 1: before the ceremony. Then the older sister and family were
- 28:16Speaker 1: to leave immediately and not attend the reception. Even the sister?
- 28:20Speaker 1: The sister and the adult family members had to leave? Well,
- 28:24Speaker 1: that did not go to plan, as some guests brought
- 28:26Speaker 1: their own young children without warning. That's kind of messed up, though.
- 28:30Speaker 1: Like to be told it's a child-free wedding and then
- 28:32Speaker 1: bring your kids?
- 28:33Speaker 7: I mean, I would do it just for fun at
- 28:35Speaker 7: this point.
- 28:36Speaker 1: The older sister and husband also refused to leave after
- 28:39Speaker 1: the ceremony. So about a dozen small children ended up attending.
- 28:43Speaker 1: That caused Melissa an epic meltdown only fixed by the
- 28:46Speaker 1: venue graciously offering seating the families in a smaller function
- 28:51Speaker 1: room so she did not have to look at them.
- 28:53Speaker 1: And daddy agreed to pay the extra. Guess that basic
- 28:56Speaker 1: menu food came in handy after all. Then the photographer
- 28:59Speaker 1: and videographer ruined everything by having the nerve to actually
- 29:03Speaker 1: take pictures of guests, the groom, and the rest of
- 29:05Speaker 1: the bridal party, rather than slavishly following only Melissa around
- 29:09Speaker 1: all day. There were other things sister-in-law mentioned Melissa allegedly did,
- 29:13Speaker 1: but they seemed so unbelievable they discounted them as fabrications.
- 29:18Speaker 1: Conspiracies about the parents-in-law sabotaging her wedding by encouraging people
- 29:22Speaker 1: to ignore her seating plans, and her younger sister deliberately
- 29:26Speaker 1: engineering the other bridesmaids to quit so she had to
- 29:29Speaker 1: be included. Just out of madness.
- 29:31Speaker 7: For sure not what happened. You're just way... The sister
- 29:35Speaker 7: had nothing to do with that.
- 29:37Speaker 1: Sister probably didn't even want to be maid of honor.
- 29:39Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 29:40Speaker 7: She wasn't even involved in the wedding.
- 29:42Speaker 6: So they just had another room where they just put
- 29:45Speaker 6: people in there and they couldn't see anything.
- 29:47Speaker 7: They were just somewhere else with their kids eating nuggets. Okay.
- 29:51Speaker 7: When you go back, what did it say? It said
- 29:55Speaker 7: something back there. Scroll back a little bit.
- 29:58Speaker 1: I can't remember, but Yeah, the fact that they took
- 30:00Speaker 1: pictures of anyone else at the wedding.
- 30:02Speaker 6: And she's like, they're ruining everything. It's like, she's going
- 30:05Speaker 6: to get all her pictures back. And then she's going
- 30:07Speaker 6: to send back notes on all the pictures and be like,
- 30:10Speaker 6: can you Photoshop all those other people out? And then
- 30:13Speaker 6: just put me there. And put me in their place.
- 30:15Speaker 6: Can you Photoshop my face onto everyone else?
- 30:18Speaker 1: Please, can I just be all of the people? Maybe
- 30:21Speaker 1: she was only me at my wedding.
- 30:22Speaker 5: She's crazy.
- 30:23Speaker 1: By the time they got back from the honeymoon, all
- 30:26Speaker 1: was not well. and there were already signs of strain
- 30:29Speaker 1: that everything had not gone to plan there either. She
- 30:31Speaker 1: was overheard hissing down the phone one day, Well, you
- 30:34Speaker 1: have to have spicy sleep to get pregnant, and he's
- 30:36Speaker 1: refusing to come near me since the first week. Yeah,
- 30:39Speaker 1: I don't think he likes you.
- 30:40Speaker 5: I wouldn't like you anymore.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Maybe there's hope for him. To end on a more
- 30:45Speaker 1: positive note, I have some other news. My beautiful sister-in-law
- 30:48Speaker 1: found out she's expecting and is due mid-year. A girl. Luckily,
- 30:52Speaker 1: all the wedding drama was over before she'd have to
- 30:55Speaker 1: say anything at work. This gives her the perfect way
- 30:57Speaker 1: out of the clinic if she decides to take it.
- 31:00Speaker 1: Management stupidly hasn't been looking for someone to cover her
- 31:02Speaker 1: maternity leave. My sister-in-law offered to train the person up
- 31:06Speaker 1: to speed, but they were lukewarm at best, so she's
- 31:09Speaker 1: expecting this to bite them hard if they leave it
- 31:11Speaker 1: until she's already on leave, because she said she won't
- 31:14Speaker 1: be putting herself.
- 31:15Speaker 7: Out for them.
- 31:17Speaker 5: No, sir.
- 31:18Speaker 1: No, sirree.
- 31:19Speaker 5: Wow. Um, yeah.
- 31:21Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad that your sister-in-law has gotten all the
- 31:23Speaker 1: money that she needs and is going to have her
- 31:25Speaker 1: baby and be done. Yeah.
- 31:27Speaker 6: It's so funny that the manager who is that Melissa
- 31:31Speaker 6: is just like, no, you baby, you're still working.
- 31:34Speaker 7: What do you mean?
- 31:35Speaker 6: You'll probably give birth to the baby here and then
- 31:37Speaker 6: the baby will start working and then you can.
- 31:39Speaker 7: Take a break.
- 31:40Speaker 1: Yeah. Thank you. Sorry. It's my world.
- 31:43Speaker 4: I am.
- 31:43Speaker 1: I'm I'm put my face on every person in the world.
- 31:46Speaker 6: As was clearly stated in my contract, any child you
- 31:49Speaker 6: have immediately works for me.
- 31:52Speaker 3: And that's the end of the story. We're going to
- 31:54Speaker 3: go on to the next one.
- 31:55Speaker 2: Hey, it's Smiley Riley here from OK Storytime. We're going
- 31:58Speaker 2: to get back to these stories, but here's three minutes
- 32:00Speaker 2: worth of ads from our sponsors.
- 32:03Speaker 1: I flew to a wedding for my friend, but the
- 32:05Speaker 1: bride's family wanted me gone.
- 32:07Speaker 4: Groom's family pretty chill, though.
- 32:08Speaker 1: Backstory. I, 26 female, have known the groom, 26 male,
- 32:13Speaker 1: since we were in elementary school. He and I were
- 32:15Speaker 1: in a very close-knit friend group for years.
- 32:18Speaker 4: Sorry, can I interject?
- 32:19Speaker 5: Yes.
- 32:19Speaker 4: I think I know where this is going.
- 32:20Speaker 1: He and I were in a very close-knit friend group
- 32:23Speaker 1: for years, and his sister is one of my best friends.
- 32:26Speaker 1: Four years ago, he expressed he had feelings for me,
- 32:28Speaker 1: and I immediately shut it down. Nothing ever happened after that,
- 32:32Speaker 1: and we went back to being friends normally. Flash forward
- 32:34Speaker 1: to one and a half years ago, he met his bride,
- 32:37Speaker 1: 22 female. The friend group never got to know her
- 32:40Speaker 1: because the groom completely immersed himself into her social circle.
- 32:44Speaker 1: The friend group would invite both the groom and bride
- 32:46Speaker 1: to multiple events, and they'd never reply or show. The
- 32:50Speaker 1: groom's sister told us the bride is very particular about
- 32:53Speaker 1: which women the groom interacts with.
- 32:57Speaker 7: Yikes.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Red flag there.
- 32:58Speaker 4: Red flag. Flag on the play.
- 33:00Speaker 1: Flag on the play. Someone called a referee. The groom
- 33:04Speaker 1: distanced himself from the friend group, but we all still
- 33:06Speaker 1: considered him a friend. And once we got invited to
- 33:09Speaker 1: their destination wedding, my four girlfriends and I RSVP'd yes
- 33:13Speaker 1: and booked our flights. Would you go to a wedding
- 33:17Speaker 1: for like a person that you, I mean, yeah, I'll
- 33:20Speaker 1: still ask this. Would you go to a wedding for
- 33:22Speaker 1: a person you were friends with, but for like the
- 33:24Speaker 1: last couple of years has kind of ignored you and
- 33:27Speaker 1: not come to any events and then they invite you
- 33:31Speaker 1: to their wedding?
- 33:32Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess I think in this case,
- 33:33Speaker 4: I probably would because they were homies back in elementary school.
- 33:35Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. And it's a destination wedding.
- 33:38Speaker 4: Destination wedding.
- 33:39Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes I guess that can go either way.
- 33:41Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 33:41Speaker 4: If it's somewhere cool, then I'm like, you know, I'll
- 33:44Speaker 4: clear my schedule. Yeah.
- 33:45Speaker 1: I guess I'm on vacation.
- 33:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 33:47Speaker 4: Okay.
- 33:47Speaker 3: That's fair.
- 33:48Speaker 1: However, the sister of the groom warned us not to
- 33:51Speaker 1: interact too much with the bride because she supposedly is
- 33:54Speaker 1: not a fan of us. By the way, this comes
- 33:56Speaker 1: from Sarah Livingston, 95. And if you want to submit
- 33:59Speaker 1: your own stories, go to the r slash showcase story
- 34:01Speaker 1: time subreddit. I'm Sophia.
- 34:03Speaker 5: Hey, what up?
- 34:05Speaker 4: I'm, what's my name again?
- 34:06Speaker 5: Aaron. Aaron, sorry.
- 34:08Speaker 1: But Aaron's going to help us read these stories and
- 34:11Speaker 1: is new here. So say hi. Hi.
- 34:14Speaker 3: Good job.
- 34:15Speaker 1: OP says the wedding consisted of three events, two dinners,
- 34:19Speaker 1: and the actual reception. Event one was a dinner at
- 34:22Speaker 1: a restaurant. The bride's mother, who we'd met a few times,
- 34:25Speaker 1: was going around saying hi to everyone. When she came
- 34:28Speaker 1: to our table, she acknowledged my three other friends by name.
- 34:32Speaker 1: And when I put my hand out to shake, she
- 34:34Speaker 1: turned around and walked away. Has she been forewarned of OP?
- 34:39Speaker 4: She has to know something that we don't know yet.
- 34:40Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like, mm, woman. I can't talk to her.
- 34:44Speaker 4: Women, hate them.
- 34:45Speaker 1: Hate them all. Completely caught me off guard, but I
- 34:48Speaker 1: figured it was an accident. That's optimistic. Then at the
- 34:53Speaker 1: end of the night, the sister of the bride was
- 34:54Speaker 1: walking past our table and was staring at me. When
- 34:57Speaker 1: I said hi, she continued to stare and completely ignored me.
- 35:02Speaker 1: This is really weird.
- 35:04Speaker 4: This is toxic. I feel like she... Needs to stop
- 35:07Speaker 4: giving people the benefit of the doubt and maybe pick
- 35:08Speaker 4: up on some weird energy.
- 35:09Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like, hello? Just calm out at this wedding.
- 35:14Speaker 4: Yeah, just be like, I object to the way I've
- 35:16Speaker 4: been treated.
- 35:17Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. The priest is like, does anyone have anything? Like,
- 35:20Speaker 1: I object. I just feel like everyone's been really mean
- 35:23Speaker 1: to me today.
- 35:24Speaker 4: I just feel like I'm getting bullied right now.
- 35:27Speaker 1: I thought that your wedding would be a safe space,
- 35:29Speaker 1: and it's not. I didn't know what to think of
- 35:31Speaker 1: the situation, but I brushed it off. The second event.
- 35:35Speaker 1: took place at a venue. When we walked in, the
- 35:38Speaker 1: bride and groom were already inside, and when we tried
- 35:41Speaker 1: to say hi, the bride grabbed the groom's hand and
- 35:43Speaker 1: walked away. Later, all the guests were watching the couple
- 35:46Speaker 1: take pictures at the front of the room, and the
- 35:48Speaker 1: sister of the bride, 19 female, comes up to me
- 35:51Speaker 1: directly and says, can you guys just give them some privacy?
- 35:55Speaker 1: So my friends and I abided and walked away. When
- 35:58Speaker 1: they were taking pictures? That's... Okay, so they're taking pictures...
- 36:04Speaker 1: Everyone is watching, and they specifically go up to Opie
- 36:07Speaker 1: and the friends.
- 36:08Speaker 4: Like, hey, we just need some privacy in this very
- 36:10Speaker 4: public setting.
- 36:11Speaker 1: Yeah, can you just turn around?
- 36:12Speaker 4: Thank you. Also, why did she even get, how did
- 36:15Speaker 4: she get the invite? That's what I'm, right?
- 36:18Speaker 1: It's so weird to me that the bride, I mean,
- 36:21Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to say let, but it
- 36:23Speaker 1: does feel like she let the groom invite them, but
- 36:26Speaker 1: doesn't want them there at all.
- 36:28Speaker 4: She said, hey, your friend can come, but we're going
- 36:30Speaker 4: to ice her out completely.
- 36:31Speaker 1: If she talks to you. I will. her she's done
- 36:36Speaker 1: she's gone then we all go to the dance floor
- 36:38Speaker 1: and are standing around the couple in a circle but
- 36:40Speaker 1: i'm three rows behind the bride's mother comes directly in
- 36:44Speaker 1: front of me and starts flapping her arms to the
- 36:46Speaker 1: music blocking me off from seeing the.
- 36:49Speaker 4: Cup she's just like.
- 36:52Speaker 1: Don't look at them stop Later on the dance floor,
- 36:57Speaker 1: the older sister of the bride stood directly in front
- 37:00Speaker 1: of me and motioned for her cousin and younger sister
- 37:03Speaker 1: to come stand in front of me as well. Are
- 37:05Speaker 1: these like, what's a sports term? Like linebackers?
- 37:09Speaker 4: Linebackers. It's like they're like setting a screen.
- 37:11Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. They're in front of the goal. They're not
- 37:15Speaker 1: letting you get in.
- 37:15Speaker 4: Actually, you know what it is? Do you watch soccer?
- 37:17Speaker 4: Did you watch the World Cup?
- 37:17Speaker 1: I did watch the World Cup.
- 37:19Speaker 4: When they're setting up for like a freak.
- 37:20Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was thinking. And they're all lined up. Yeah,
- 37:23Speaker 1: that's exactly what's happening. I watched the World Cup for
- 37:26Speaker 1: Jude Bellingham. And this happened at least eight times during
- 37:30Speaker 1: the night. At some point during the night, I was
- 37:32Speaker 1: passing by one of the bride's cousins and she slammed
- 37:35Speaker 1: her shoulder into me, knocking me backwards a few steps.
- 37:38Speaker 1: She continued walking. Damn, she shoulder checked you?
- 37:41Speaker 4: Oh my God.
- 37:43Speaker 1: She continued walking away and didn't bother to turn around
- 37:46Speaker 1: or apologize. So I knew it was on purpose. At
- 37:49Speaker 1: another point during the night, I was standing in the
- 37:51Speaker 1: mother of the bride's direct line of vision and she
- 37:54Speaker 1: rolled her eyes at me.
- 37:56Speaker 4: I feel like at a certain point she should have
- 37:57Speaker 4: just stayed away from the family.
- 37:59Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like, you know what? I know what I'm
- 38:01Speaker 1: not wanted. I'll be in the back. Yeah.
- 38:03Speaker 4: Also, yeah, she might be a linebacker.
- 38:05Speaker 1: She might be. OP or the mother?
- 38:08Speaker 4: Just the whole family. They have a whole football family.
- 38:11Speaker 1: Broad shoulders.
- 38:12Speaker 4: Very broad shoulders. Underneath the wedding dress, she's got.
- 38:16Speaker 1: Yeah, she's the thick padding. She's got a mouth guard.
- 38:20Speaker 5: Sorry.
- 38:22Speaker 1: Do you have any final thoughts on what OP could do,
- 38:26Speaker 1: what OP should have done?
- 38:27Speaker 4: I think OP is honestly justified to attack someone in
- 38:30Speaker 4: the family.
- 38:31Speaker 1: I think the next time someone makes any sort of verbal,
- 38:37Speaker 1: physical eye contact in a negative way, OP can attack.
- 38:41Speaker 4: You can retaliate.
- 38:42Speaker 1: It's the law.
- 38:43Speaker 4: Call them out.
- 38:44Speaker 1: Call them out right now at the wedding.
- 38:46Speaker 4: No, because generally, I think usually I try to like.
- 38:48Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 38:48Speaker 4: I'm usually like, all right, I'll fight fire with kindness.
- 38:51Speaker 4: At a certain point, you got to start fighting back.
- 38:54Speaker 1: You simply must. Pull out the fire extinguisher.
- 38:57Speaker 4: I thought that was a... Pull out that fire extinguisher.
- 39:01Speaker 1: Pull out that fire extinguisher.
- 39:03Speaker 4: Yeah, during the final dance.
- 39:06Speaker 1: During the final dance, the bride's two sisters and her
- 39:08Speaker 1: cousin again came and stood in front of me. And
- 39:12Speaker 1: every time I would move, they would follow me. At
- 39:14Speaker 1: one point during this game of tag, the little sister
- 39:17Speaker 1: of the bride got annoyed and turned around and said,
- 39:20Speaker 1: can you just leave?
- 39:21Speaker 3: They invited her.
- 39:23Speaker 1: They invited Opie.
- 39:25Speaker 4: Well, do you think the boyfriend or the guy was
- 39:27Speaker 4: just really begging? He was like, please, we got to
- 39:30Speaker 4: bring this friend.
- 39:31Speaker 1: This is my close friend.
- 39:32Speaker 4: And she was like, yeah, you can bring her, but
- 39:34Speaker 4: we're just going to bully her.
- 39:35Speaker 1: Yeah, she will be bullied. And that's on you.
- 39:39Speaker 4: And he was like, OK, I can live with that.
- 39:41Speaker 1: I had enough and went and told the groom's sister
- 39:43Speaker 1: who spoke to the groom's father and the bride's father.
- 39:46Speaker 1: As we were walking out of the event, the bride's
- 39:48Speaker 1: little sister looked me up and down and rolled her eyes.
- 39:52Speaker 1: Why is everyone rolling their eyes?
- 39:53Speaker 4: It really runs in the family.
- 39:56Speaker 1: After we got home, I seriously considered not attending the wedding. Oh,
- 39:59Speaker 1: we haven't even got to the wedding.
- 40:00Speaker 4: Wait, this is not the wedding?
- 40:01Speaker 1: I guess there was three events.
- 40:03Speaker 4: Why would she still go to the wedding after?
- 40:04Speaker 1: I wouldn't go to the wedding.
- 40:06Speaker 4: But also, I'm like, she's like, can you just leave?
- 40:08Speaker 4: But it's a destination wedding, so where would she go?
- 40:10Speaker 1: She just has to leave.
- 40:11Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 40:12Speaker 1: Like, at the bars?
- 40:13Speaker 4: She's voted off the island.
- 40:15Speaker 1: But the sister and father of the groom reassured me
- 40:17Speaker 1: that I was wanted and should attend. I don't believe you.
- 40:20Speaker 4: That's no way. There's no way that she was wanted.
- 40:23Speaker 5: I don't.
- 40:24Speaker 1: Like, that's like if you're in school and you're being
- 40:26Speaker 1: relentlessly bullied and then the principal's like, no, no, no.
- 40:29Speaker 1: We don't believe in bullying at this school.
- 40:31Speaker 4: They're extreme gaslighters and eye rollers.
- 40:34Speaker 1: They're rolling their eyes. The wedding itself was fine, and
- 40:37Speaker 1: the bride's family didn't bother me at all. At the
- 40:40Speaker 1: end of the night, the groom came up to my
- 40:42Speaker 1: friends and I and apologized for his in-law's behavior.
- 40:44Speaker 4: Oh, okay, it's fine then.
- 40:46Speaker 1: Oh, we're fine.
- 40:46Speaker 5: Yeah, we're all is.
- 40:48Speaker 4: Water under the bridge.
- 40:49Speaker 1: I'm now wondering if I overstepped by attending, even though
- 40:53Speaker 1: I was invited. Uh, yeah. That's the question. I'm now
- 40:57Speaker 1: wondering if I overstepped. What's your answer?
- 41:00Speaker 4: Yeah, she's definitely the a-hole.
- 41:02Speaker 1: Yeah, never go to an event that you're invited to.
- 41:06Speaker 1: Rule number one.
- 41:07Speaker 4: Never go outside.
- 41:08Speaker 1: Just don't leave your house.
- 41:10Speaker 5: And that's on you. No, Pete, that's ridiculous.
- 41:13Speaker 1: But also, I don't think.
- 41:14Speaker 4: You should go to the wedding. Yeah, well, oh wait,
- 41:17Speaker 4: so when she posted this, the wedding hadn't happened? No,
- 41:19Speaker 4: the wedding happened.
- 41:20Speaker 1: Oh, you're right.
- 41:21Speaker 4: She did go to the wedding.
- 41:22Speaker 1: You said the wedding, yeah. Okay, she said it was fine.
- 41:24Speaker 4: But it's weird that they were mean at the dinner.
- 41:26Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 41:26Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 41:27Speaker 4: I guess they're like, we got to get it out
- 41:28Speaker 4: of our system.
- 41:28Speaker 1: I think maybe they were trying to bully her to
- 41:31Speaker 1: a point where she wouldn't want to go to the wedding.
- 41:33Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see that.
- 41:34Speaker 1: Because they were like, oh, we can't do this at
- 41:35Speaker 1: the wedding because it'll be more obvious. But if we
- 41:38Speaker 1: just bully her so much that she just doesn't want
- 41:41Speaker 1: to come.
- 41:42Speaker 4: Do you think in a weird way they almost respected
- 41:45Speaker 4: her for sticking it out? Yeah.
- 41:48Speaker 1: Instead of an eye roll at the wedding, they're just like,
- 41:50Speaker 1: I admire you. Get spunked, kid.
- 41:53Speaker 3: And that's the end of this story. We're going to
- 41:54Speaker 3: go on to the next one.
- 41:56Speaker 5: My father refuses to acknowledge my boyfriend, so we're planning
- 41:59Speaker 5: to secretly get married.
- 42:00Speaker 1: We're married!
- 42:01Speaker 5: My boyfriend, male 26, and I, female 24, are planning
- 42:04Speaker 5: to get married soon. We met in graduate school. We
- 42:07Speaker 5: have been dating for two years and living together for
- 42:09Speaker 5: a few months, and it's great! We feel that it's right.
- 42:13Speaker 5: My boyfriend is not an American citizen. We work in
- 42:16Speaker 5: the arts, so a work visa is extremely difficult to
- 42:18Speaker 5: come by, especially in our particular field. We spent a
- 42:22Speaker 5: lot of time this year discussing how we're going to
- 42:24Speaker 5: arrange for him to stay in the country after his
- 42:26Speaker 5: year-long OPT is up. One of the options is investing
- 42:29Speaker 5: about half a million dollars in the U.S. and getting
- 42:32Speaker 5: a visa based on that. This option is a huge
- 42:35Speaker 5: hassle and obviously very expensive. The easiest option is marriage.
- 42:42Speaker 5: We both see our relationship heading towards marriage anyway. We
- 42:45Speaker 5: are perfect for each other. By the way, this comes
- 42:47Speaker 5: from user ToBePerfectlyHonest. And if you want to submit your
- 42:50Speaker 5: own stories, go to the r slash OKStoryTime subreddit. I'm Kion.
- 42:53Speaker 1: I'm Sophia. And I'm Savannah.
- 42:55Speaker 5: And we're here to give good advice goofily. We don't
- 42:57Speaker 5: have all the answers, guys. We only know what we do.
- 42:59Speaker 5: So let us know what you do in the comments
- 43:00Speaker 5: down below, pretty please. As OP says, we love each other.
- 43:04Speaker 5: We're very attracted to each other. We're good at communicating clearly.
- 43:08Speaker 5: We're mutually supportive. And we even collaborate artistically. We're also
- 43:11Speaker 5: both very grounded. and we know that marriage is not
- 43:14Speaker 5: a fairy tale. We think of ourselves as very lucky
- 43:17Speaker 5: to have found each other, and it would devastate both
- 43:20Speaker 5: of us if he had to leave the country. If
- 43:22Speaker 5: he were a US citizen, we would probably wait a
- 43:24Speaker 5: few more years to get married so we could pay
- 43:26Speaker 5: for a wedding and avoid judgment from our families for
- 43:29Speaker 5: getting married relatively young. But that's not the situation we have.
- 43:34Speaker 5: We have discussed our situation at length and have come
- 43:37Speaker 5: up with a plan. The plan is, we want to
- 43:39Speaker 5: get married at City Hall by the end of this year,
- 43:42Speaker 5: and then have a wedding two to three years from now.
- 43:44Speaker 5: My boyfriend has told his parents about the plan, and
- 43:46Speaker 5: I've told my mother. They're all fine with this. My
- 43:49Speaker 5: mother is excited, even. She loves my boyfriend. His parents
- 43:52Speaker 5: love me. My mom loves his parents, and his parents
- 43:55Speaker 5: love my mom.
- 43:56Speaker 1: Everyone's happy.
- 43:57Speaker 5: It's all great, right? Yeah. Right, Sophia?
- 44:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 44:00Speaker 6: Nope.
- 44:01Speaker 4: No.
- 44:01Speaker 5: Nope, it's not.
- 44:02Speaker 1: Oh, you're kidding me.
- 44:03Speaker 5: The issue is this. It's my dad, male 56. Overall...
- 44:07Speaker 5: I have a very good relationship with my dad. In
- 44:09Speaker 5: many ways, we're similar. We can talk for hours on
- 44:13Speaker 5: any subject, except for my relationships. My whole life, my
- 44:18Speaker 5: dad has refused to acknowledge my relationships. He just pretends
- 44:22Speaker 5: they don't exist. I haven't had that many boyfriends, only
- 44:26Speaker 5: one other serious relationship, and he acted the same way
- 44:28Speaker 5: towards that boyfriend. Right now, my dad barely even acknowledges
- 44:32Speaker 5: that I'm dating someone, much less living with someone. He
- 44:35Speaker 5: refuses to acknowledge he exists. And he hates him. He
- 44:40Speaker 5: refuses to use his name. He refuses to talk to him. Okay,
- 44:44Speaker 5: he makes joking threats to me about beating him up.
- 44:47Speaker 5: He doesn't dismiss my boyfriend on any reasonable grounds. He
- 44:50Speaker 5: usually just dismisses him by saying, he's goofy. My boyfriend
- 44:54Speaker 5: is a little goofy, but in a good way. He's
- 44:56Speaker 5: charismatic and very funny. And not afraid to be a
- 44:59Speaker 5: little nerdy. But my dad doesn't mean it in a
- 45:01Speaker 5: good way. He just means he doesn't take my boyfriend seriously.
- 45:05Speaker 5: I've brought my boyfriend to plenty of family events. Everyone
- 45:08Speaker 5: loves him. He's even managed to win my more cantankerous
- 45:11Speaker 5: relatives over. But my dad? My dad completely avoids him.
- 45:15Speaker 5: My dad's usually a talkative, amicable guy, but he completely
- 45:19Speaker 5: goes quiet when my boyfriend is around. If he says anything,
- 45:22Speaker 5: it's usually negative and veiled by a joke. Even my
- 45:25Speaker 5: half-sister on my dad's side, who is eight, feels bad
- 45:28Speaker 5: for my boyfriend because she can tell my dad is
- 45:31Speaker 5: being mean.
- 45:32Speaker 1: Aw, not when the eight-year-old can tell he's going too far.
- 45:35Speaker 5: Well, you know, children just are straight up. They have
- 45:39Speaker 5: no filter. Daddy, I'm being mean.
- 45:40Speaker 4: Stop it.
- 45:41Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 45:41Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'd call him out.
- 45:43Speaker 5: I try to talk to my dad about this issue,
- 45:45Speaker 5: but he completely shuts down every time I try to
- 45:47Speaker 5: address it. Sometimes I feel that he is jealous that
- 45:50Speaker 5: I have a good relationship and he doesn't. I can
- 45:55Speaker 5: tell he sees me as a younger version of him
- 45:58Speaker 5: and lives vicariously through me in a lot of ways.
- 46:01Speaker 5: His relationship with my mother didn't work out. They broke
- 46:04Speaker 5: up when I was in elementary school and his current
- 46:06Speaker 5: marriage is pretty much on the rocks. He's told me
- 46:09Speaker 5: a lot about what he's learned from his failed or
- 46:11Speaker 5: failing relationships and I really pay attention. I don't want
- 46:15Speaker 5: to end up in a marriage like his. My boyfriend
- 46:18Speaker 5: and I want to keep our city hall marriage on
- 46:20Speaker 5: the down low. We're going to tell the world we're engaged,
- 46:23Speaker 5: so it's not confusing when we have a wedding two
- 46:25Speaker 5: years later, but... Those close to us will know the truth.
- 46:29Speaker 5: I want to tell my dad the truth, but I
- 46:31Speaker 5: don't know how to go about it. Every time I
- 46:33Speaker 5: ask him why he refuses to meet my boyfriend, he
- 46:36Speaker 5: berates me, gets very cold, and calls me young and
- 46:38Speaker 5: naive and idiotic. It doesn't help that he's really good
- 46:42Speaker 5: at arguing and talking his way out of situations. He
- 46:45Speaker 5: does it for a living. Lawyer.
- 46:46Speaker 1: Lawyer.
- 46:47Speaker 6: Lawyer.
- 46:48Speaker 1: Lawyer.
- 46:49Speaker 4: Lawyer.
- 46:49Speaker 1: No, I mean, that makes a lot of sense in
- 46:51Speaker 1: terms of his personality. But live your own life, girly pop.
- 46:57Speaker 1: Live your own life.
- 46:58Speaker 5: Truly. He has no say in your life. He doesn't
- 47:01Speaker 5: control you. So live your life. And my dad is
- 47:05Speaker 5: quite good at finding my emotional weak spots and exploiting them.
- 47:08Speaker 5: I've asked many times about arranging dinners or lunches or
- 47:11Speaker 5: even effing coffee. where my dad can sit down and
- 47:13Speaker 5: actually get to know my boyfriend. But no matter how
- 47:16Speaker 5: much I argue that this is important to me, my
- 47:18Speaker 5: dad says that it's not a good time. If I
- 47:21Speaker 5: ask someone else to talk to him because he won't
- 47:23Speaker 5: listen to me, he calls me up and asks, Why
- 47:26Speaker 5: he has to hear about my life from other people.
- 47:28Speaker 5: Everyone who knows about this thinks this is a very
- 47:30Speaker 5: weird reaction. I want him to know that I'm getting married.
- 47:35Speaker 5: But I also don't want him to make this into
- 47:36Speaker 5: another reason to hate my boyfriend. I don't want him
- 47:39Speaker 5: to think I'm just doing this for a visa. I
- 47:41Speaker 5: don't want him to tell everyone. I also don't want
- 47:43Speaker 5: him to never forgive me if I didn't tell him.
- 47:46Speaker 5: I'm just not sure how to go about this. Should
- 47:49Speaker 5: I just keep trying to arrange a nice meeting between
- 47:51Speaker 5: him and my boyfriend first, hoping he'll come to his
- 47:54Speaker 5: senses and realize that this is ridiculous? Should I trick
- 47:57Speaker 5: him into coming to a dinner with my boyfriend? I'm
- 48:00Speaker 5: sure that wouldn't go down well. Should I just come
- 48:02Speaker 5: out and tell him that I'm getting married and it's
- 48:04Speaker 5: up to him to get to know my future husband
- 48:06Speaker 5: because I'm tired of trying? We have an update.
- 48:10Speaker 1: I think that you should go to your dad and say, hey.
- 48:14Speaker 1: You better freaking get on board or you're not going
- 48:18Speaker 1: to be involved in my life.
- 48:22Speaker 5: That's the problem, Sophia. She can't sit him down because
- 48:26Speaker 5: he never wants to sit down with her.
- 48:28Speaker 1: Judo flip him down. No. Tell him, hey, let's go
- 48:33Speaker 1: on a road trip. Let's go on a road trip, Dad.
- 48:35Speaker 1: He's stuck in the car with you for two hours.
- 48:37Speaker 1: We're going in circles. Yeah, lock the doors. You say, hey, Dad,
- 48:42Speaker 1: I have a boyfriend. You know this. You never want to. Who?
- 48:45Speaker 1: You never want him in your life. Who? My boyfriend. Who?
- 48:48Speaker 1: My boyfriend. Who? And then you go in circles until
- 48:51Speaker 1: he gets over that.
- 48:52Speaker 2: Who?
- 48:52Speaker 5: I'm an owl, honey. I'm training to be an owl. Who?
- 48:54Speaker 4: Oh, shoot.
- 48:55Speaker 1: He's locked in. And then you say, I've got a boyfriend.
- 48:58Speaker 1: And if you don't accept that, you're going to miss
- 49:00Speaker 1: out on the special important parts of my life. And
- 49:03Speaker 1: I want you to be a part of those, but
- 49:04Speaker 1: I will not tell you about them if they happen,
- 49:06Speaker 1: if you cannot get on board.
- 49:07Speaker 5: Very easy.
- 49:08Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 49:08Speaker 5: I know you don't like relationships, dad, but if you
- 49:10Speaker 5: want to continue this relationship with me, he's a part
- 49:12Speaker 5: of that as well.
- 49:13Speaker 1: Yeah, you could even be like, one day I'm gonna
- 49:15Speaker 1: get married and you might not know if you keep
- 49:18Speaker 1: acting like that that's sad yeah you gotta lay down
- 49:21Speaker 1: the law yeah it's kinda guilt tripping but like in
- 49:24Speaker 1: a way that like is good for.
- 49:25Speaker 5: Him we have an update so it's been two months
- 49:29Speaker 5: since I posted here since then I've had several more
- 49:32Speaker 5: talks with my dad I would try to get through
- 49:34Speaker 5: to him I would ask him point blank why he
- 49:36Speaker 5: wouldn't acknowledge my boyfriend and each time He would just
- 49:40Speaker 5: get quiet, then give a snarky response, then find a
- 49:43Speaker 5: way to change the subject. I'd originally asked my significant
- 49:46Speaker 5: other to hold off on the proposal until after he
- 49:49Speaker 5: got a chance to really sit down and get to
- 49:50Speaker 5: know my dad. But with your help, and hopefully our help,
- 49:55Speaker 5: I came to the realization that since we gave my
- 49:57Speaker 5: dad plenty of chances, we shouldn't just put everything off
- 50:00Speaker 5: just to accommodate to him. So I told my significant
- 50:03Speaker 5: other he should propose whenever he wanted to. And he did.
- 50:07Speaker 1: Heck yeah!
- 50:09Speaker 5: He proposed today in the most awesome, hilarious, and wonderful
- 50:12Speaker 5: proposal I could have ever imagined. I may post the video.
- 50:16Speaker 5: It was just amazing.
- 50:18Speaker 1: Please do. You can't just tell us that not.
- 50:21Speaker 5: Yeah, and says, I think Reddit would appreciate it. And
- 50:24Speaker 5: we would.
- 50:24Speaker 1: I would appreciate it. Thank you.
- 50:26Speaker 5: And I immediately called and told my mother, who was
- 50:29Speaker 5: so happy for us. But again, she's always been so supportive.
- 50:33Speaker 5: So this was no surprise. And then, after taking a
- 50:36Speaker 5: few hours to muster up the courage... I told my father.
- 50:40Speaker 1: Oh, boy.
- 50:41Speaker 5: Oh, boy.
- 50:42Speaker 1: Crossing my fingers.
- 50:43Speaker 5: How do we think Papa is going to take this?
- 50:46Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it.
- 50:47Speaker 5: He'd be like, who?
- 50:49Speaker 7: Who?
- 50:50Speaker 1: Who are you talking about? I'm cantankerous.
- 50:52Speaker 5: You can't marry yourself. That's weird. And he took it
- 50:55Speaker 5: better than I ever could have imagined.
- 50:57Speaker 1: Oh, wow. I did not expect that.
- 51:00Speaker 5: Me neither.
- 51:01Speaker 1: Love to see it.
- 51:02Speaker 5: Maybe he was just like pushing you to the like. Yeah.
- 51:05Speaker 1: He just likes being a curmudgeon, but underneath the surface,
- 51:09Speaker 1: he's a really good guy.
- 51:10Speaker 5: Yeah, he was just like, I was just waiting for
- 51:12Speaker 5: you to do the final push, and you did it.
- 51:14Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure he wanted to commit
- 51:16Speaker 1: to you, but now that I know that he's committing
- 51:18Speaker 1: to you, it's fine.
- 51:19Speaker 3: He's a big softy.
- 51:20Speaker 5: A little bit left here. What do we think, Sophia?
- 51:23Speaker 5: Anything else?
- 51:23Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how it went exactly, but
- 51:25Speaker 1: it seems we've got some positive signs on the horizon.
- 51:29Speaker 5: You probably went, I can't stop you.
- 51:31Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, okay, when? He said, who?
- 51:35Speaker 5: Oh, a little bit left here. Let's finish it up.
- 51:38Speaker 5: So my dad was a little upset that I had
- 51:40Speaker 5: told him over the phone. But since he is a
- 51:43Speaker 5: working case and lives kind of far away, I would
- 51:47Speaker 5: have been able to keep it from him without risking
- 51:48Speaker 5: someone else telling him. Since a lot of people were
- 51:51Speaker 5: involved in the planning process, he would have been really
- 51:54Speaker 5: offended if he had found out from someone else. Pick
- 51:57Speaker 5: a lane, dad.
- 51:58Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what you want, dad.
- 52:01Speaker 5: Plus, I was excited and wanted to tell everyone. I
- 52:03Speaker 5: did want to tell him because I do care what
- 52:05Speaker 5: he thinks, even if he is a little difficult to
- 52:08Speaker 5: deal with sometimes. But then we talked for a while.
- 52:11Speaker 5: He told me that he had thought of my significant
- 52:12Speaker 5: other as just some goofy guy who might not stick around.
- 52:15Speaker 1: I knew it. He just wanted to make sure that
- 52:17Speaker 1: your boyfriend was going to be committed.
- 52:19Speaker 5: By not talking to him whatsoever and saying passive aggressive
- 52:23Speaker 5: remarks about him.
- 52:25Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't going to look into it at all.
- 52:28Speaker 5: The math, not mathing, but you know what?
- 52:30Speaker 1: He was right.
- 52:31Speaker 5: We can do this. I think he was very surprised,
- 52:33Speaker 5: but I think the reality of an engagement really brought
- 52:35Speaker 5: things into perspective for him. He said after hearing how
- 52:38Speaker 5: happy and excited I was, and how much thought and
- 52:41Speaker 5: time and effort must have gone into the proposal, he
- 52:43Speaker 5: knew it was time to start taking my now-fiancee seriously.
- 52:47Speaker 1: Heck yeah!
- 52:48Speaker 5: I mean, he's still a goofy guy.
- 52:49Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's a goofy guy who loves you.
- 52:52Speaker 5: Yes.
- 52:53Speaker 1: Be serious about his love.
- 52:55Speaker 5: So my dad congratulated me and seemed genuinely happy for me.
- 52:58Speaker 5: I'm happy. He's happy. I'm so lucky.
- 53:01Speaker 1: Aww.
- 53:02Speaker 5: I'm so lucky I'm a star. I'm glad my dad
- 53:06Speaker 5: came around and made it this far. And that's the
- 53:11Speaker 5: end of that story.
- 53:11Speaker 1: That was really beautiful. Did you just come up with that?
- 53:13Speaker 5: Yeah, my big brain did that.
- 53:15Speaker 1: Wow!
- 53:16Speaker 5: Wow! But yeah, dad came around and said, sure.
- 53:23Speaker 1: What more can a girl ask for? But that's the
- 53:26Speaker 1: end of that story. And we got another one coming
- 53:28Speaker 1: right up.
- 53:29Speaker 6: Yes, we do.
- 53:30Speaker 3: Hey, it's Angie, your favorite Riley's girlfriend host here. We're
- 53:34Speaker 3: going to get back to the stories, but here's three
- 53:36Speaker 3: minutes of ads from our sponsors.
- 53:39Speaker 1: My boyfriend's best friend keeps touching him and she's exactly
- 53:43Speaker 1: his type.
- 53:44Speaker 5: Start touching her.
- 53:45Speaker 1: My boyfriend, Justin, 26 male and I, 23 female, have
- 53:49Speaker 1: been a couple for just over seven months. Let's start
- 53:53Speaker 1: a dating a couple months before that. So in all, I,
- 53:56Speaker 1: 23 female, have known him less than a year and
- 53:59Speaker 1: I'm already head over heels for him. I know it's
- 54:01Speaker 1: still our honeymoon phase, but I've genuinely never felt this
- 54:04Speaker 1: strongly about another guy before and I've never thought as
- 54:07Speaker 1: long term as I'm thinking with him. Justin is confident, charismatic,
- 54:11Speaker 1: passionate and driven, intelligent and emotionally mature, values his family,
- 54:16Speaker 1: is especially kind to children and elderly people, and just
- 54:20Speaker 1: has a presence that lights up the room. Anyway, the
- 54:22Speaker 1: only real problem in our relationship from my point of
- 54:25Speaker 1: view is his friendship with Olivia, 24 female, who he
- 54:30Speaker 1: has known since her first year of university for about
- 54:33Speaker 1: six years. Justin is smart with women, used to attention,
- 54:36Speaker 1: and doesn't cross boundaries with them. The only time he
- 54:39Speaker 1: comes close is with Olivia. And even then, it's mostly
- 54:43Speaker 1: her initiating things. But the way she behaves around him
- 54:46Speaker 1: is honestly the number one source of conflict in our relationship.
- 54:50Speaker 1: I'm quite friendly with Justin's circle of friends now, and
- 54:53Speaker 1: I hang out with them at least once per week.
- 54:55Speaker 1: So things can be pretty uncomfortable for me. By the way,
- 54:59Speaker 1: this comes from Throwaway S-O-S-T-L. And if you want to
- 55:03Speaker 1: submit your own stories, go to the r slash OK
- 55:04Speaker 1: Storytime subreddit. I'm Sophia.
- 55:06Speaker 5: I'm Keon.
- 55:07Speaker 1: And I'm Savannah. And we're here to give good advice goofily.
- 55:10Speaker 1: But we don't have all the answers. We only know
- 55:12Speaker 1: what we do. So let us know what you would
- 55:14Speaker 1: do in the comments. And Opie says, things that make
- 55:17Speaker 1: me uncomfortable. She is exactly my boyfriend's type. Not really
- 55:22Speaker 1: her fault, I know. I've seen a few girls that
- 55:24Speaker 1: my boyfriend has been with from his social media. And
- 55:27Speaker 1: they all look more or less like Olivia. She's 5'8,
- 55:31Speaker 1: athletically built, has cat eyes, and a pouty mouth. And
- 55:35Speaker 1: just gives off a schmacksy aura. I'm 5'3, in shape,
- 55:39Speaker 1: and have a decent face, but one, it bothers me
- 55:42Speaker 1: that I'm nothing close to Justin's type, and two, that
- 55:45Speaker 1: Olivia is his type. Olivia has always been nice enough
- 55:48Speaker 1: to me, but when I first met her, she gave
- 55:50Speaker 1: me an eyebrows raise, let's see how long you last
- 55:53Speaker 1: kind of look. I admit, I could be overthinking this one.
- 55:55Speaker 1: She's always finding excuses to touch Justin.
- 55:58Speaker 5: In what way?
- 55:59Speaker 1: An example is brushing food off his clothes and face. Hello,
- 56:03Speaker 1: that's my job. Or fixing his shirt collar.
- 56:06Speaker 5: Ugh.
- 56:07Speaker 1: I'm on your side there. She also likes to give
- 56:09Speaker 1: him back hugs. She hugged him from behind and I
- 56:12Speaker 1: overheard her saying, how come you never give me back
- 56:14Speaker 1: hugs anymore? Ew. Okay. And now I'm on your side, OP.
- 56:17Speaker 1: We should have started with this stuff.
- 56:19Speaker 5: Yeah. Why didn't, why did we start with the stuff
- 56:21Speaker 5: that wasn't confirmed?
- 56:23Speaker 1: The way she said it was low and whispery and
- 56:26Speaker 1: rubbed me the wrong way. When I brought it up
- 56:28Speaker 1: to Justin, all he said was, yeah, that was weird.
- 56:31Speaker 1: I guess. Wake up, dude. She has this cute act
- 56:34Speaker 1: that she does for Justin when he doesn't want to
- 56:36Speaker 1: do something for her. Sometimes she'll ask him to buy
- 56:39Speaker 1: her something, like an ice cream. And when he says no,
- 56:43Speaker 1: she'll stand in front of him and pout and make
- 56:45Speaker 1: deer eyes. Or sometimes she just grabs him and pushes
- 56:49Speaker 1: him towards whatever she wants, points to it, and does
- 56:51Speaker 1: the cutesy act. She greets him by saying, hey you,
- 56:55Speaker 1: and winking and pretends shooting him. Justin only listens to Olivia.
- 57:01Speaker 1: He's a pretty stubborn guy and doesn't really follow others,
- 57:04Speaker 1: unless it's Olivia.
- 57:05Speaker 5: That's weird.
- 57:06Speaker 1: That is weird. One incident that bothers me happened in
- 57:09Speaker 1: a club. Justin and I were drinking with his friends
- 57:12Speaker 1: when another group got in an argument with some of
- 57:14Speaker 1: his guy friends. Justin tried to defuse it at first,
- 57:18Speaker 1: but the other guys were extremely disrespectful, and he was
- 57:22Speaker 1: on the verge of fighting three guys at once. I
- 57:24Speaker 1: kept telling him to leave them alone, but he wouldn't
- 57:26Speaker 1: back down, even after the bartender threatened to call the police.
- 57:30Speaker 1: Then Olivia walks over, pulls him by the arm and yells, stop,
- 57:34Speaker 1: you're acting stupid. She dragged him to the bar and
- 57:36Speaker 1: they talked there alone for 15 minutes. One of Justin's
- 57:39Speaker 1: friends noticed me watching and told me, don't feel bad.
- 57:43Speaker 1: It's always been this way with them, which obviously made
- 57:46Speaker 1: me feel worse. This is weird.
- 57:48Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 57:48Speaker 1: I'm calling it out. I'm like, dude, dude, I mean,
- 57:52Speaker 1: I don't even know if you want to date me.
- 57:54Speaker 1: It feels like you want to date Olivia.
- 57:56Speaker 5: Or at least you guys seem like it.
- 57:58Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 57:59Speaker 1: Like, this is what you're doing to make me feel
- 58:02Speaker 1: that way. And, you know, if there's anything there, we
- 58:07Speaker 1: gotta end this. Yesterday, we went to dinner with his friends.
- 58:11Speaker 1: The day was warm, so Justin was only wearing a t-shirt.
- 58:15Speaker 1: But by the time we finished, it was windy and colder.
- 58:17Speaker 1: We decided to take a walk along the riverwalk, and
- 58:20Speaker 1: Olivia suddenly wrapped her cardigan around my boyfriend's shoulders.
- 58:24Speaker 5: That's not her job. That's your job.
- 58:26Speaker 1: I'm taking that off. I'm going, this is yours.
- 58:29Speaker 5: Yeah, that's yours. Here, Justin, wrap me around you.
- 58:33Speaker 1: Yeah. He started joking around and posing like a model
- 58:36Speaker 1: before giving it back. But I kind of wish he
- 58:39Speaker 1: would have just given it back right away. There are
- 58:41Speaker 1: a lot of these kinds of instances where Olivia will
- 58:44Speaker 1: do small, caring things for him. Things that a girlfriend does.
- 58:48Speaker 1: My women's intuition just tells me that Olivia wants more
- 58:52Speaker 1: from Justin than he's giving her. When he's not paying
- 58:55Speaker 1: attention to her, I sometimes catch her stealing glances at him.
- 58:59Speaker 5: You know what this is?
- 58:59Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 59:00Speaker 5: This is where he got friend. No. So Justin's into
- 59:04Speaker 5: Olivia for sure.
- 59:05Speaker 1: Oh, you think Justin's into it?
- 59:07Speaker 5: I think he was. Friend zoned her.
- 59:10Speaker 1: Oh, friend zoned her.
- 59:12Speaker 5: Or no, Olivia friend zoned him or in some way.
- 59:16Speaker 5: And now that you're in the picture, she's like, I'm
- 59:19Speaker 5: going to give more attention to Justin.
- 59:22Speaker 1: See, I was thinking the opposite. I was thinking that
- 59:24Speaker 1: Olivia had feelings.
- 59:26Speaker 5: For Justin.
- 59:27Speaker 1: Yeah, Justin kind of said, hey, not interested. And then
- 59:30Speaker 1: she's still, you know, trying. Because that's, I don't know.
- 59:34Speaker 1: But I think one or the other.
- 59:35Speaker 5: I think one or the other. I mean, makes sense.
- 59:37Speaker 5: But this is all bad.
- 59:40Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like it. Sometimes she
- 59:42Speaker 1: looks smitten. Sometimes lustful. Sometimes sad. I think it's obvious
- 59:47Speaker 1: she has feelings for him. But when I brought it
- 59:49Speaker 1: up with my boyfriend, he told me they were just close.
- 59:51Speaker 5: Okay, well.
- 59:52Speaker 7: Stop.
- 59:53Speaker 5: Don't be close anymore.
- 59:54Speaker 1: Too close.
- 59:55Speaker 4: Too close.
- 59:56Speaker 1: I'll just end with this. I understand some people are
- 59:59Speaker 1: natural flirts, but Olivia doesn't act like this to any
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: other guy in the group. She's sarcastic and relentlessly teases them,
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: but no touching, no cutesy act, none of the small
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: thoughtful stuff, and definitely none of the misty-eyed gazes. Some
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: of the guys even jokingly complained that they're jealous she
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: only acts like a girl to Justin. Yesterday after the
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: cardigan thing, when Justin dropped me off, I asked him
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: to talk because I've been growing more insecure about his
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: friendship with Olivia. We talked for around an hour and
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: didn't really make progress. Basically, he agreed not to meet
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: Olivia alone, but said she was important to him, told
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: me some things they helped each other get through in university,
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: and that he wanted her in his life.
- 1:00:43Speaker 5: Okay, you can still have her in your life, just
- 1:00:45Speaker 5: a little bit further.
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: Yeah, just like say, hey, don't put a cardigan on
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: me when my girlfriend's around. Don't do this.
- 1:00:51Speaker 5: Or why do you always listen to her.
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: And not me? I tried to initiate spicy sleep with
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: him after that, but he said he was tired and left. Oof.
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: I mean, also maybe not the best time after emotional conversation.
- 1:01:02Speaker 5: After a very heavy talk, yeah. Where you're kind of
- 1:01:04Speaker 5: accusing him of.
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: Like, rightfully so, but kind of accusing him of, you know, being,
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: overstepping boundaries with another girl. Maybe not the best time.
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: I cried and called my older sister. She told me
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: that since Justin hadn't done anything to break my trust,
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: I should continue trusting him and that there's a reason
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: he's with me and not Olivia. She also said that
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: if he crosses the line, I need to be strong
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: enough to leave him. I also called my best friend
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: this morning and she, on the other hand, is convinced
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: that Justin and Olivia were or are more than just close.
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: She thinks I need to give him an ultimatum, choose
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: the friendship or the relationship. Basically, I'm at a loss
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: for what to do now. I love Justin and really
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: think we have a future together. But this friendship with
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: Olivia is driving me crazy. Is this just jealousy or
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: my insecurities? Or do I really need to give my
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: boyfriend an ultimatum? And we do have an edit. In
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: reading your comments and my own post and some self-reflecting,
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: I realized that a lot of the issues had to
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: do with my insecurities and fears about what could be
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: happening or what may happen in the future. That said,
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: there are still several things that Olivia does with my
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: boyfriend that I'm personally not okay with. I understand it
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: was wrong of me to even entertain the thought of
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: asking Justin to distance himself from her, but if they
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: really are that close and nothing farther than platonic feelings
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: are being shared... Then one, my boyfriend shouldn't have a
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: problem establishing reasonable boundaries with a female friend whose behavior
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: makes his girlfriend uncomfortable. And two, that female friend should
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: understand and respect those wishes. I think it's within reason
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: for him to ask that she cut out the intimate
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: physical stuff like the back hugs, grabbing his arm, brushing
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: his hair and face, clothes, etc. I'm meeting him later
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: tonight and I will tell him exactly this. I'm not
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: going to ask him to stop being friends with her.
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: I'm also going to ask him to clarify some things,
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: like the extent of their physical relationship, and if there's
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: any romantic history between them that I'm not aware of.
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: Good on you. I think this conversation will help me
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: decide whether a compromise can be made, or if I
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: will have to do the hard thing and walk away,
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: which I really don't want to do, and we do
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: have an update. What do you think Opie's going to do?
- 1:03:19Speaker 5: I mean, obviously going to have that conversation, but... When
- 1:03:22Speaker 5: you asked, oh, is this just like my insecurities or like,
- 1:03:25Speaker 5: should I give that ultimatum back to that previous question?
- 1:03:28Speaker 5: I think it was a mixture of both. Yeah, I agree.
- 1:03:31Speaker 5: And again, 10 months in, you're still trying to establish
- 1:03:34Speaker 5: yourself into the relationship and his friendships and all this stuff.
- 1:03:37Speaker 5: So you're getting used to it. But seeing that does
- 1:03:39Speaker 5: not help. It doesn't make you feel good. No, and
- 1:03:42Speaker 5: he really should.
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: I think, I don't know. It is a little concerning
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: to me that he's not really making any attempt to.
- 1:03:50Speaker 5: Um, compromise or understanding like Opie's like place of like, Hey,
- 1:03:55Speaker 5: I feel uncomfortable about that. And you're like, that's just
- 1:03:57Speaker 5: how it is.
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: Yeah. Cause I feel like it's seven months. I mean,
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: my boyfriend and I have had conflicts and like little things,
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: you know, like you do when you spend a lot
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: of time with someone, uh, platonic or romantic. And we've
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: like found ways to talk to each other and like
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: compromise on things and just communicate.
- 1:04:17Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: And it doesn't seem like there's any of that happening.
- 1:04:20Speaker 5: It's the give and take or take and give kind
- 1:04:22Speaker 5: of thing. And all Justin's doing is taking.
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: Take and take.
- 1:04:26Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:04:27Speaker 5: I think OP see what happens if he can't. Again,
- 1:04:32Speaker 5: you should be like, hey, I'm uncomfortable with that. Why
- 1:04:34Speaker 5: aren't we doing those things? Or how can I be
- 1:04:37Speaker 5: on that level? Or like, why does it have to
- 1:04:39Speaker 5: be her? Why can it be me? We're in a relationship.
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: But we got an update. I met Justin the night
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: after I added the edit with the intention of telling
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: him I was wrong for wanting him to distance himself
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: from Olivia. But I wanted one for him to ask
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: that she toned down the physical intimacy and two for
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: him to disclose the extent of their relationship in the past.
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: That talk didn't go as planned at all. I thought
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: he was going to be understanding and honest, but he
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: stonewalled me and was an all around a-hole to me.
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: As soon as I brought up Olivia, He laughed and
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: shook his head and asked me if I was really
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: going to do this crap again. I tried not to
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: get emotional and just explained my point of view. The
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: whole time he was leaning his head against the wall,
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: not making eye contact, playing with his earrings.
- 1:05:26Speaker 5: What does he look at?
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: I know exactly what this guy looks like now. I
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: can see him in my mind. When I asked if
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: he understood my feelings... He smiled sarcastically and said, of course, honey,
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: immediately breaking up.
- 1:05:39Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm breaking up.
- 1:05:40Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: If someone said, of course, honey, when I was.
- 1:05:42Speaker 5: Like being emotional and serious. Yeah. Bye.
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: He was extremely angry when I asked if they had
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: hooked up before.
- 1:05:49Speaker 5: Oh, why are you angry about that question?
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: His exact words were, you haven't even been my girlfriend
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: for a year. If you think you're entitled to know
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: every little detail from my past, F you.
- 1:06:01Speaker 5: Oh, did I touch a soft spot?
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: Oh, and you know they hooked up. And you know
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: they hooked up. So that's a yes. Yep.
- 1:06:11Speaker 5: I'm sorry, what? Either A, they hooked up for sure,
- 1:06:14Speaker 5: or again, one of them wanted to. And it seems
- 1:06:17Speaker 5: like he wanted to more than she did.
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: Yeah, that's, oof. Yeah, no, that's crazy to be like,
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: at seven months? To be like, no, you can't know
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: about my past relationships.
- 1:06:28Speaker 5: What?
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: He walked out after saying that, and I cried. He'd
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: never talked to me like that before. Obviously, he was
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: hiding something. I messaged him telling him I wasn't trying
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: to make him mad, but that I felt like we
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: needed to talk again. Oh, no. He's going to be like, stop.
- 1:06:43Speaker 5: You're doing this again?
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: He didn't reply that night and still hadn't the next morning.
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: I never thought I would do this, but I sent
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: Olivia a message asking to meet for a coffee. Huh.
- 1:06:56Speaker 5: Was that like, I'm surprised we're still giving this a chance,
- 1:06:59Speaker 5: you know, like, oh.
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: Yeah, the second that he says that to me and
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: then doesn't respond, I'm like, hey.
- 1:07:05Speaker 5: Negates your feelings.
- 1:07:06Speaker 6: We're done.
- 1:07:07Speaker 5: Doesn't care if you're crying. Yeah, we're done.
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I'm not going to coffee with
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: the girl who I think you're crushed on. Yeah, what's
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: she going to tell you?
- 1:07:16Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 1:07:17Speaker 5: He's the best. Oh, he just gets that way. The
- 1:07:19Speaker 5: way to stop that is just by jumping on his
- 1:07:21Speaker 5: back and rubbing his head.
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: You know, it feels like he has anger issues based
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: off the fight that he almost got in. And Olivia's like, no, no, no.
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: You just have to like walk up to him and
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: be like, this isn't you. Surprisingly, she answered almost immediately.
- 1:07:36Speaker 5: Oh.
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: And agreed to meet in the afternoon. When we met,
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: I told her about my feelings, how Justin had reacted
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: the other night, and straight up asked her if there
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: were any romantic feelings between them. She admitted that she
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: has feelings for Justin. Wow. But that it was complicated.
- 1:07:51Speaker 5: What does that mean?
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: She said she loves him and hates him at the
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: same time.
- 1:07:55Speaker 5: What does that mean?
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: She told me I should leave him. Of course she
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: said that. And that she wasn't just saying that because
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: she wants to be with him instead of me, but
- 1:08:03Speaker 1: because Justin has always been a player, charming and leaving
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: girls for years. She said she's waited for him to change,
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: knew she could never be truly happy staying by his
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: side as a friend, and that she should leave him too,
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: but couldn't. She seemed very sincere.
- 1:08:18Speaker 5: What the heck?
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: I mean, like, I kind of believe it, but also
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: I don't trust her.
- 1:08:23Speaker 5: But yeah, I'd be like, hey, why didn't you say
- 1:08:26Speaker 5: this at the beginning when I first met you?
- 1:08:27Speaker 7: I mean, why would she?
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: Why would she? I asked what the extent of their
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: relationship was in the past. She told me she was
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: attracted to Justin at first sight when they met in university,
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: but he had a long-distance girlfriend at the time. Justin
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: broke up with the long-distance girlfriend. They got closer. Justin
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: had some problems, she wouldn't tell me what, that he
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: confided in her about, and this led to them kissing
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: one night and having spicy sleep. That was her first time.
- 1:08:54Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: She confessed feelings to Justin, but he said he didn't
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: want their friendship to be affected if the relationship didn't
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: work out.
- 1:09:02Speaker 5: So why did you guys do that in the first place?
- 1:09:04Speaker 5: This guy sucks.
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: They were on and off, friends with benefits throughout college.
- 1:09:09Speaker 5: Oh.
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: I feel bad for this girl now. Justin had a
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: handful of short-lived relationships during that time. He cheated on
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: one of his girlfriends with Olivia.
- 1:09:17Speaker 6: Oh.
- 1:09:19Speaker 5: You know, this sounds like a great compatibility test for them.
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: Yeah. She claimed they haven't had spicy sleep since he's
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: been in a relationship with me. I don't know what
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: to believe. When they graduated, their friend group rented a
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: vacation pension on an island. And one night, their friend
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: Ashley walked in on them in the bathroom. Justin told
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: Ashley it was a wasted mistake. Olivia was extremely hurt
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: and refused to see or speak to him for weeks.
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: After being ignored, Justin apologized. Told her he had feelings
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: for her and they went on a few secret dates,
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: but he never committed and then backtracked, saying he was
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: confused and not ready for anything serious. From that point on,
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: they went back to being friends with benefits until Justin
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: met me. I was skeptical as to why she told
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: me all this, so I asked if she had proof.
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: She searched chat logs and showed me multiple messages of
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: him booty calling her. She started getting emotional and told
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: me that Justin has amazing qualities. but some deep personal
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: issues he refuses to work on that prevent him from
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: being a good partner right now. She's been single this
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: whole time.
- 1:10:24Speaker 5: So she's just waiting for him. Yeah.
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: Oh, girly pop. Girly pop, get out of there. There
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: were likely many opportunities for her to end up in
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: a happy relationship, but she turned a blind eye to
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: them all for Justin, who can't even admit he has
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: feelings for her. Even though I didn't like some of
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: the things she did before, I actually sympathize with her
- 1:10:45Speaker 1: a lot. It sounds like Justin put her through a
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: ton of crap, gave her false hope, and took it away. After,
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: she told me not to worry about throwing her under
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: the bus because she was going to tell Justin herself
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: that she told me about them. She said she wanted
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: him to be mad at her. Later that night, Justin
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: called me trying to explain himself. Oh, now you want
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: to talk about your relationships. I thought you'd... I thought
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: we weren't at a stage in our relationship where you
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: felt ready to tell me about them.
- 1:11:12Speaker 5: Here, OP, you just sit on the wall, put your
- 1:11:13Speaker 5: head on the wall, start playing with your earrings and go, no,
- 1:11:17Speaker 5: it's okay, honey.
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: No, I don't want to hear about this. No, I
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: don't think I'm ready to talk about our relationship.
- 1:11:22Speaker 5: You should be like, you're bringing her up again?
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Later that night, Justin called me trying to
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: explain himself, but I broke up with him.
- 1:11:30Speaker 4: Nice.
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: Nice. Because he's a freaking liar. I was crying on
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: the phone. I really didn't want to break up, but
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: I knew it was the right thing for me. Regardless
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: of what was true or false about his past, it
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: was just too much drama. And the way he reacted
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: to me when I had originally wanted to talk scared me.
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: He didn't try to fight me or ask me to stay.
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: We just kind of sat in silence on the phone
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: for a while before we hung up.
- 1:11:54Speaker 5: Walk away from this, Opie.
- 1:11:55Speaker 7: Call it a day.
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: We're done here.
- 1:11:57Speaker 5: Why did no one in the friend group bring this
- 1:11:59Speaker 5: up to you? You know what?
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: I don't think they like, I think they're all too
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: loyal to Justin or whatever.
- 1:12:06Speaker 3: They also probably were like, well, you know, like he'd
- 1:12:09Speaker 3: get mad.
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: If we said something. Yeah, none of our business.
- 1:12:11Speaker 5: Probably.
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: Because he has a temper. It's been about two weeks
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: since then. I know Justin was probably a bad boy
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: and it was only a matter of time before he
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: broke my heart. But I feel devastated. I'm just starting
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: to get back into my normal routines. But even then,
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard to get out of bed. I think
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: about Justin every day. It's like the more I'm away
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: from him, the more I think about the good things
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: we had. Part of me hoped he would reach out,
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: but he hasn't. I met Olivia last week and she
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: told me Justin wasn't talking to her anymore and that
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: it was probably a good time for her to move
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: on from him. Last night, I saw Olivia upload a
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: couple-y picture of her and Justin on Instagram in a nightclub.
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: He had his arm wrapped around her with a drink
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: in that hand and she was sipping from the straw.
- 1:13:00Speaker 5: I'm going to tell you right now.
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: You little snake.
- 1:13:02Speaker 5: She's very conniving, but you know what? She's in that trap. Yeah.
- 1:13:06Speaker 5: That Justin's like, yeah, yeah, you know what? Yeah. You're
- 1:13:08Speaker 5: just going to be my rebound friend. Forever. Forever.
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: Like, I don't even, I don't believe that. Like, I
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: think she was telling the truth.
- 1:13:17Speaker 5: She was. 100% telling the truth. For some parts of it,
- 1:13:19Speaker 5: you know? She showed you the truth. Yeah. But she
- 1:13:22Speaker 5: wants Justin.
- 1:13:24Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:13:24Speaker 5: And Justin only wants her around for just a backup.
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: Yeah, literally.
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: Literally.
- 1:13:28Speaker 5: I guarantee you, they're like, okay, now can we start dating?
- 1:13:30Speaker 5: And Justin's going to go, no, not yet. I just
- 1:13:34Speaker 5: got out of a relationship.
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: He just likes that she wants him.
- 1:13:36Speaker 5: Exactly.
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: After I saw that I blocked and unfollowed them, that
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: was kind of what inspired me to post an update.
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: I don't know if Olivia played me or if Justin's
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: working his magic on her again, but I just feel
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: crappy all around. It hurts now, but I know these
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: people would have been toxic for me if I had stayed.
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: It just hurts so much more than I had imagined. Yeah,
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: I don't really think it matters if she played you
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: or not, because I think overall, she did you a favor.
- 1:14:02Speaker 5: She's playing herself, actually.
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: Yeah, for real.
- 1:14:06Speaker 5: Justin and Olivia are doing the giant revolving doors, and
- 1:14:10Speaker 5: then Justin will hop out, but just watch her do
- 1:14:13Speaker 5: the door still, and then you hop back in. It's
- 1:14:15Speaker 5: an endless cycle for them, and it sucks that she
- 1:14:18Speaker 5: won't leave it. He just sucks in general. I think
- 1:14:21Speaker 5: you're going to be okay, OP. I know it's going
- 1:14:22Speaker 5: to be hard to move on from this. It takes time.
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: But you'll be okay. You'll be all right.
- 1:14:28Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: But that is the end of that story.