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Joey Bosa's level of importance to the Buffalo Bills defense | DC · Disguised Coverage

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  Speaker 1: A and T. In this episode of Disguised Coverage, we
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  Speaker 1: will be diving into some conversation around Joey Bose after
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  Speaker 1: the injury news dropped earlier today that he picked up
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  Speaker 1: a calf strain and it looks like he is going
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  Speaker 1: to be out until training camp, depending on the reports
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  Speaker 1: you look at it. And we're gonna be diving into
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  Speaker 1: specifics as we go forward in this episode, and I
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  Speaker 1: thought this episode would be interesting to do. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be dropping two episodes this week. Apologies for
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  Speaker 1: not doing the regular Tuesday episode last week. Life got
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  Speaker 1: very busy, not in a necessarily bad way, just very
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  Speaker 1: hectic week last week. I wanted to try and drop
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  Speaker 1: it later in the week last week, didn't get the
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to. So this will be one of two episodes
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  Speaker 1: that will drop this week for Disguise Coverage. The original
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  Speaker 1: episode that I was going to do tonight, I'm pivoting
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  Speaker 1: towards the back end of the week given the Bosa
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  Speaker 1: injury news and the resulting All right, Jay with the
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  Speaker 1: nice South Park reference. Oh look, Joey Bosa is finally
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  Speaker 1: healthy and it's gone. I thought this conversation would be
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  Speaker 1: fun to have given well, not fun, I guess fun
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  Speaker 1: is relative and you put it in quotes. But given
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  Speaker 1: the injury news today and Bosa's importance or non importance
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  Speaker 1: in the eyes of some fans to the Bills defense,
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  Speaker 1: to the position group, I thought this would be a
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  Speaker 1: good conversation now that the roster is really starting to
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  Speaker 1: kind of take shape. I know we have preseason in
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  Speaker 1: training camp and cuts and all this stuff, but given
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  Speaker 1: where we are on the off season, free agency, the draft,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the Bill's roster of in terms of
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  Speaker 1: who is going to make the roster, ninety seven percent
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  Speaker 1: of the candidates are already on this roster right now.
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  Speaker 1: So what this team ends up looking like, we still
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  Speaker 1: have to get to cut down days and all that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But for the most part, and for
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  Speaker 1: the largest part, what this team is going to be
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five is what we currently see on
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  Speaker 1: the depth chart and on the roster right now. We
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  Speaker 1: just have to get to some of the particulars. And
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  Speaker 1: Bosa's injury history and juxtaposing that with his performance and
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  Speaker 1: what he could be was already a muddy conversation going
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  Speaker 1: into twenty twenty five, and then a further muddied conversation
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  Speaker 1: given the Bills signing Michael Hoyt and Michael Hoyt being
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  Speaker 1: suspended for the first six games, Larry Ogunjobi, a defensive tackle,
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  Speaker 1: all to be suspended for the first six games, and
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  Speaker 1: it was all just kind of this muddying of an
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  Speaker 1: important player, an important group being the edge grouping to
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  Speaker 1: a unit in the Buffalo Bills defense that the team
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  Speaker 1: really made a concerted effort to try and improve this
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  Speaker 1: year in a multitude of forms, given what they did
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  Speaker 1: in the draft, given what they did in free agency,
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  Speaker 1: and so much of the conversation around Bosa, rightfully so,
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  Speaker 1: not just saying it because of the news that dropped today,
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  Speaker 1: but rightfully so, was around his injury history. Could he
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  Speaker 1: stay healthy. When he is healthy, he is an impactful player,
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  Speaker 1: seeing what he's been in the past for the Chargers
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  Speaker 1: when healthy went on the field. Even when he's going
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  Speaker 1: to like sixty five to seventy percent, he's still effective.
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  Speaker 1: He's capable of playing on all downs. But that ability
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  Speaker 1: as a pass rusher to be that kind of closer
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  Speaker 1: for the Bills was an important piece in this offseason,
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  Speaker 1: but looming over it was the injury history. And now
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  Speaker 1: here we are, we haven't even gotten into the season,
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  Speaker 1: we haven't even started practicing and contact and playing games
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  Speaker 1: and having quote unquote meaningful snaps, and he's already picked
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  Speaker 1: up an injury. So I thought it'd be again fun to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, have this discussion again fun being relative in
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  Speaker 1: terms of what expectations are for him in twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: but also what his role is on this team and
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  Speaker 1: the importance of what that role is within the position group,
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  Speaker 1: because I think he's more important to this team in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five than is necessarily being discussed. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if that's because folks are just immediately writing
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  Speaker 1: him off because of the past injury history. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it's because folks are completely writing him off
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  Speaker 1: now because he's already picked up an injury injury and
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  Speaker 1: it's just another type of red flag and an already
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  Speaker 1: medical book littered with red flags. But I do think
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  Speaker 1: he's more important than is being discussed or that he
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  Speaker 1: is getting credit for, and I want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: that in this episode, all while putting it together with
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  Speaker 1: his injury history to Bill's defense, so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: Anything and everything, as we do here on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Any questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, anything and everything you folks have,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's Bosa related, Bills related, defensively, offensively, OTA's training camp,
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  Speaker 1: anything and everything that you folks may have on your mind,
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  Speaker 1: and any cookouts or parties or fun things and festivities
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  Speaker 1: that may have accompanied that holiday. So the first thing
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  Speaker 1: that I want to get into when talking about Joey
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  Speaker 1: Bosa's importance level to the Buffalo Bills, and again that's
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  Speaker 1: the focus of this episode, right like it With him
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  Speaker 1: picking up this injury already, I think it further puts
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  Speaker 1: in a position how much does he matter to this team?
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  Speaker 1: Seeing this injury? Is it Oh boy, that's not good.
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  Speaker 1: Are you hoping? Are you hoping for more? Is it
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  Speaker 1: fingles crossed? What are you trying to do?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: What's up? Eagles? Eric? Appreciate you? He Eagles Eric does
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  Speaker 1: very good work over on I don't even want to
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  Speaker 1: put into kind of the wrong perspective of but just
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of good metrics and kind of prediction
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  Speaker 1: based things via platform called Oasis. Pull it back up there, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Eagles Eric. If you guys aren't already following him, give
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  Speaker 1: him a follow over there on Twitter. I was looking
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  Speaker 1: it up while I was talking here at Eagles x's
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  Speaker 1: and o's. Yeah, he, what's up Eagles Eric? Thanks for turning.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Yeah. So I think his importance level
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  Speaker 1: is higher to this team in twenty twenty five that
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  Speaker 1: is necessarily being discussed, even pre injury, even before what
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  Speaker 1: happened today, anything and everything. I already thought his importance
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  Speaker 1: level to this team for even if it's just for
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  Speaker 1: one year, wasn't more important than it was getting credit
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  Speaker 1: for Oh what's up? Joe and Joe saying yeah Eagles Eric,
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  Speaker 1: great work on the Oasis site. Checked it out today
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  Speaker 1: and will definitely refer to it during the season, So
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  Speaker 1: another shout out there for Eagles Eric for you folks. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's unfortunate that he picked up this knock, but I
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  Speaker 1: just feel like it's it warrants a discussion around what
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  Speaker 1: he is for this team, for this edge grouping, and
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  Speaker 1: if he doesn't play this year due to injury. I
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  Speaker 1: already thought he was gonna get injured at some point
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  Speaker 1: this year. I wasn't counting on him playing all regular
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  Speaker 1: season games going in the playoffs. I really thought he'd
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  Speaker 1: be kind of on more of a snap coount or
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  Speaker 1: a pitch count like von Miller was. I expected him
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  Speaker 1: to be more of a closer type of guy, peer
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  Speaker 1: pass rusher, even though he is a competent run defender
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  Speaker 1: and when he was healthy he was one of the
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  Speaker 1: best complete edges in all the football is both a
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  Speaker 1: pass rusher and as a run defender. But given the
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  Speaker 1: makeup of the Bills edge grouping where Bosa is in
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  Speaker 1: his career in terms of health and trying to kind
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  Speaker 1: of bubble wrap him a little bit, I didn't expect
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  Speaker 1: him to play a lot of early down stuff and
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  Speaker 1: all with that notion of just kind of getting him
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  Speaker 1: healthy and keeping him healthy into the playoffs to kind
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  Speaker 1: of unleash him and let him be that closer that
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  Speaker 1: the Bills would need off the edge. He's already picked
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  Speaker 1: up an injury now, I think that warrants the discussion
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  Speaker 1: for what we will see going forward. As Mary says,
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  Speaker 1: she says he will be fine come training camp. Training
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  Speaker 1: camp an important kind of marker for him within this
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  Speaker 1: whole discussion. So if you don't know, Bill's had OTAs
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  Speaker 1: and some activity today, and Sean McDermott confirmed some things.
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  Speaker 1: Long story short, Joey Bosa is dealing with a calf
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  Speaker 1: injury and Sean McDermott said that he will likely be
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  Speaker 1: out until training camp as a result of that calf injury.
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  Speaker 1: I definitely don't like the soft muscle nature of it.
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  Speaker 1: Anytime there's anything muscular, if it's a calf, strained quad,
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  Speaker 1: strained hamstring, like anything that is muscular, that worries me
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  Speaker 1: more than like a broken bone or a sprained ankle,
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  Speaker 1: things that are more definitive in terms of what's wrong,
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  Speaker 1: how to heal it, how to correct for it. That's
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  Speaker 1: just me that may be wrong. Other people may do
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  Speaker 1: other things, But I tend to find those soft muscle
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  Speaker 1: injuries more problematic than anything. And for a guy who's
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  Speaker 1: had a lot of muscular injuries in BOSA, like lower
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  Speaker 1: back injuries and like hip and growing stuff and things
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  Speaker 1: that are more muscular and tendon basis, is obviously less
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  Speaker 1: than ideal for a guy with that history already. So
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  Speaker 1: that's the injury news kind of coming into today and
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  Speaker 1: coming into this episode. And as Joe says in the comments,
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  Speaker 1: McDermott saying he was quote unquote very concerned does give
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  Speaker 1: merit to how important he will be to this pass
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  Speaker 1: rush rotation. In my opinion, Pete says, the calf was
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  Speaker 1: last year's injury too, right, I know the back was
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  Speaker 1: the major one. It was his back, and I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was growing or hit, but I know the back
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  Speaker 1: was the major one that caused him a lot of issues.
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  Speaker 1: And as James says also in the comments as well,
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  Speaker 1: around this injury, lingering and a high chance of reinjury. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: anytime you have muscular stuff, that's the issue, right, allowing
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  Speaker 1: it to heal properly? Does it linger? Are you playing
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  Speaker 1: through it? What's your chance of reinjury? How are you
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  Speaker 1: protecting it? How are you rehabbing it? Especially for something
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  Speaker 1: like a calf injury where it's like you can't rest
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  Speaker 1: it unless you just don't walk, and that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: hard to accomplish on a daily basis. So that's the
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  Speaker 1: injury news kind of coming in into perspective in this episode.
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  Speaker 1: And they dropped earlier today. And the biggest thing around
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  Speaker 1: this conversation for me and Bosa's importance level to the
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  Speaker 1: Bills defense. And you folks have heard me say this
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  Speaker 1: if you watch the show regularly, if you watch the
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  Speaker 1: film room, if you watch this guy's coverage, talked about
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  Speaker 1: it throughout this offseason, even once they signed Bosa. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think if you remove Joey Bosa from the conversation,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the Bills have a true pass rushing
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  Speaker 1: edge one at edge the depth chart without Joey Bosa. Again,
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  Speaker 1: without Joey Bosa, Greg Russo, aj Panessa, Michael Hoyt, who
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  Speaker 1: was suspended for the first six games, rookie lamb To Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: and second year player Javon Solomon. I know there's some
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  Speaker 1: other guys on the roster in depth chart as well.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to I just that's not a realistic
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  Speaker 1: conversation to have all these guys that are further down
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  Speaker 1: right now and kind of put expectations on them or
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  Speaker 1: for them into this season. So I wanted to mention
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  Speaker 1: the meat of that position. Greg Russo, elite run defending edge.
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  Speaker 1: We know this right force multiplier is a run defender,
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  Speaker 1: one of the best run defending defensive linemen in all
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  Speaker 1: of football on tape via advanced metrics. He had a
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  Speaker 1: tremendous rookie year as a run defender and is built
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  Speaker 1: on that each year. He's also built on his pass
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  Speaker 1: rushing repertoire. Each year he's incrementally improved. And if you
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  Speaker 1: watch the show, you know this is what I allude to.
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  Speaker 1: You've heard me say this. I think he's still an
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  Speaker 1: edge two. I don't think he's necessarily a true edge
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  Speaker 1: one as a pass rusher right now. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: more of a robin that needs a batman or needs
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  Speaker 1: other robins alongside with him to kind of if he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be your number one. Right in an ideal
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  Speaker 1: world where Greg Russo is right now as a known
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  Speaker 1: quantity as a pass rusher who again has improved. He
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  Speaker 1: uses his length well, He's able to go through guys.
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  Speaker 1: He's developed more of an inside move. As he's gone
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  Speaker 1: through the years, he understands hand placement and leverage and technique.
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  Speaker 1: I just think he's more of an edge two. So ideally,
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  Speaker 1: if he is the top of your depth chart at
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  Speaker 1: edge you either are pairing him with some kind of
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  Speaker 1: pass rushing specialist that's your edge one, is a pass
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  Speaker 1: rusher on known passing down in distances, or you've surrounded
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  Speaker 1: a guy like Rousseau with a with more edge twos.
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  Speaker 1: So if ed Greg is your if Greg Russo is
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  Speaker 1: your best pass rushing edge defender, then ideally you have
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  Speaker 1: another Greg Russo or another one and a half Greg Russo's.
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  Speaker 1: If that kind of makes sense, I think you need
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  Speaker 1: another edge two and preferably a high end three or
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  Speaker 1: one of those, or minimal levels of that in conjunction
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  Speaker 1: with a true edge one to pair with Greg Russo again,
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  Speaker 1: because he's more of a robin, so get him a batman.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at the rest of that depth chart
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  Speaker 1: again without Joey Bosa, greg Uzzo, aj Panessa, Michael Hoyt, Landon,
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Javon Solomon, aj Panessa took a bit of a
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  Speaker 1: step back as a pass rusher last year. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it was more of the run defense focus
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  Speaker 1: for him last year, and I don't know if that was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, kind of emphasized from the coaching staff or
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  Speaker 1: just kind of how the season played out for him,
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  Speaker 1: given where his focus was, or his work was, or
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  Speaker 1: where his mentality was as an edge player. But for
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  Speaker 1: a guy who had really good efficiency metrics as a
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  Speaker 1: pass rusher in twenty twenty three and who we had
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  Speaker 1: high hopes for in twenty twenty four, we saw a
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  Speaker 1: bit of a step back for aj Panessa as a
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  Speaker 1: pass rusher in twenty twenty four, though he did improve
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  Speaker 1: as a run defender. I've talked about this, and I
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  Speaker 1: want to get into too much of it, but he
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  Speaker 1: improved significantly as a run defender on tape and from
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  Speaker 1: an advanced metrics standpoint in terms of stops and stop percentage.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I was talked about enough last year
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  Speaker 1: what he as a run defender and playing the edge
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  Speaker 1: opposite of Greg Russau and just what he's kind of
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  Speaker 1: turned into. But at the end of the day, took
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  Speaker 1: a step back as an edge rusher last year. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's still best suited to be like an edge
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  Speaker 1: three in terms of a pass rusher, maybe even like
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  Speaker 1: a high end edge four load to mid tier edge three.
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  Speaker 1: Then he got Michael Hoyt, who I like very much.
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  Speaker 1: You folks know this. I think he's built to be
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  Speaker 1: a movable piece that can moonlight as a true edge
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  Speaker 1: three or a load to mid edge two. Also within
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  Speaker 1: that for Michael Hoyt suspended for the first six games,
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  Speaker 1: and even when he comes back, he is not a
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  Speaker 1: guy that I like Michael Hoyt, and I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be misconstrued. I don't want to see him just
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  Speaker 1: lined up at edge and being an edge defender. I
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  Speaker 1: want him use the way the Rams used him. That's
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  Speaker 1: part of what I like so much about him and
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  Speaker 1: his skill set, playing that spinner role for the Rams,
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  Speaker 1: kind of like what the Packers did with Clay Matthews
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  Speaker 1: when they were really cooking with him back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: Taking a guy and sometimes he's at edge, sometimes he's
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  Speaker 1: in the B gap. Sometimes he's an off ball linebacker
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  Speaker 1: and he's blitzing. Sometimes he's dropping into coverage. Sometimes he's
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  Speaker 1: rushing the center. Sometimes he's in the A gap. Using
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  Speaker 1: him kind of all over the place. And in order
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  Speaker 1: to do that, you have to move him all over
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  Speaker 1: the place and not just leave him kind of statute
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  Speaker 1: or locked into one spot at edge. If he does
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  Speaker 1: stay there, you don't have to worry about physicality, you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about run defense. I still think
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  Speaker 1: he can affect the game if he just plays a
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  Speaker 1: true or traditional edge role, but I would like him
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  Speaker 1: kind of moved all over the place on the defense,
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  Speaker 1: particularly on the defensive line and in the box. Landon Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: rookie from Arkansas, We don't know. I don't care how
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  Speaker 1: much somebody likes him, how well you think he's going
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  Speaker 1: to do, how much you loved his highlights or whatever
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  Speaker 1: you saw from him in college at Arkansas. We have
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  Speaker 1: no idea what kind of pro Landon Jackson is going
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  Speaker 1: to be, so he is an unknown quantity at this point.
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  Speaker 1: He could be amazing. He could win Defensive Player of
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  Speaker 1: the Year as a rookie. He could also a healthy
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  Speaker 1: scratch every week and not play at all. We have
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: no idea. And then he could be anything anywhere and
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: anything in between. And then you've got Javon Solomon, who
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: we know a little about, but we still don't really
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: know what Javon Solomon is So I say all that
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: to say, Joey Bosa, for better or for worse, is
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: still the best option for the Buffalo Bills and having
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: a true pass rushing edge one or again provided he's healthy.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Even at his worst, he's a high, high, high end
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: edge two as a pass rusher. And any absence for
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Joey Bosa in this defense, especially early on in these
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: first six games with Michael Hoyte being out muddies this
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: edge grouping a lot for the Bills defense. This doesn't
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: mean that they're done for and while I do think
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: his absence can be mitigated something else we're going to
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: get into in this episode. I do think his importance
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: to this team is being a bit undersold, and that's
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: kind of what I wanted to lead off with. If
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: you just take everybody at their known quantities right now
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: going into this year, the Bills don't have a true
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: edge one coming off the edge. If you take Joey
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: bos off the depth chart, that's gotta kind of take
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: him out of the depth chart, is what I'm saying.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: And again, I like Greg Russo. I am fine with
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: what the Bills paid him, especially considering the trajectory that
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: he's on incrementally improving year over year as a pass rusher,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: as an overall player in terms of football IQ and
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: responsibility and being assimon sound. You see him impact the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: game regularly on tape. I just don't think he's there
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: right now is a true edge one. And when I
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: say that, as a true edge one, I mean is
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: a guy who you know, like, uh oh, it's third down.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: He's getting there, like he's gonna be a problem. You
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: just don't see it. He's more of a pressures in
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: bunches guy guy. He eats up bad tackle play, which
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: is good, But I just don't think he's he's paid
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: like a top ten edge right now. I don't think
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: he's a top ten edge as a pass rusher. He's
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: one of the best run defenders, which gives him significant value,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: like I continue to talk about, but I just don't
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: think he's there as a true edge one. And then
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: the rest of the guys we talked about known quantities.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Unless a J. Vanessa somehow swings the pendulum back and
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: we see more of the efficiency this year than we
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: saw on twenty twenty three, there's just a lot of
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: questions for this grouping. So within that you talk about
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: mitigating anything if folks that is out or if he's
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: unable to play. Actually, let me grab some questions here, folks,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: or thoughts or whatever. Charles saying, And what do you
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: make of McDermott saying Grout needs to be more physical?
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I did not see this today, so I was unaware
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: that he said this. That's very interesting. I wonder I'm
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: gonna have to go back and kind of look more
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: into the OTA pressors and see what mc dermot said,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: because I find that very interesting. I wonder what the
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: context is or like, where he's looking for him to
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: be more physical or in what capacity I should say.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: James says, seriously, if Joey is healthy and productive after
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: th Thanksgiving, I'll be happy. Roy says if I was
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator for an opposing team, I wouldn't be
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: overly concerned with the Bills pass rush. I think that
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: is a fair, fair comment. Actually, Nick is very high
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: in Javon Solomon, saying, Javon Solomon masterclass in coming. I
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: would welcome it and take it. R J says, I'm
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: planning on Bosa being slightly better than Vaughn the year
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: he came back from the ACL tear. I know it,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: says Ack here, but I think I know what you mean.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Anything more is a bonus. Charles says, I don't care
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: about Bosa stats. I just want him there on God
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: to have it plays. Pete says, agreed on Grout, and
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I liked extending him. Without him, I shudder to imagine
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: what our defensive line would have been in recent years.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Roy says, does Group remind you a little of Jerry Hughes?
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Gets pressure but can't quite finish with more sacks? I
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: guess from maybe from an ideology standpoint. I just think
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: from a play style standpoint. No, he's just Jerry Hughes
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: was a good pass rusher, and I know towards the
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: end of his years in Buffalo it was like, oh,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: all these pressures and no sacks. But he had planned,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: he had hand usage, he had moves. He could beat
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: you outside, he could beat you inside like he was athletic,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: he was tenacious. I think that's kind of under selling
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes a little bit and maybe over selling Group
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: a little bit as a pass rusher. And I also
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: think Groots' abilities as a run defender are significantly different
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: than Hughes. So I think they're both different as pass rushers,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and I think they're all both different in terms of
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: overall play style and how they impact the game. I
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: think Hughes not saying Hughes wasn't a good run defender,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: but his sliders were skewed more towards pass rush. I
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: think groots are skewed more towards run defense. And then
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the size profile, the play style, the skill set, the trades,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: how they all kind of coalesce into one. I do
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: think they're different stylistically. So if Bosa is your best
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: chance at having a true pass rushing edge one in
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five and he's out, what do you do
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: to mitigate that? And I think that's a conversation I
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: want to have to kind of steer this episode now
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: towards that conversation. I think, first off, and this is
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I think the trickiest of all of the mitigation options.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: You need multiple edges to have to step up to
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: kind of fill that role. Even even if Bosa is
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: healthy and the edge one that's awesome, you still need
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: other guys to kind of improve and be support players
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: in that role. When you talk about rushing the quarterback,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: but if we're just going off of the known quantities
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: right now, forget incremental improvement, forget anybody continuing on an
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: upward trajectory, forget about progression, forget about anyone improving. If
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: we just go off of the known quantities, meaning nobody
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: in the edge grouping takes a jump or improves in
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: their game, which is possible, it's a questionable group at
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: edge from a pass rush perspective for this grouping again,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: if we take everybody at face value known quantities for
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: what they are right now, you have Grout, who is
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: more of an edge two as a pass rusher. You
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: have aj Panessa, who's more of like an edge three
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: edge four. Maybe an edge two is a run defender,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: but more of like an edge four to three as
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: a pass rusher. You've got Michael Hoyt, who's this movable
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: hybrid type of player in peace. And you've got land
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: In Jackson who's a question mark, and Javon Solomon who
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: has some known quantity but really is a question mark
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: as well, not as much as land and Jackson. So
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: look at that grouping like without Bosa giving you that
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: firepower as a pass rusher, your edge grouping is Greg Russo,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: AJ Panessa, Michael Hoyt, Landon Jackson, Javon Solomon, and again
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Hoyd is suspended for the first six games. I hate
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: having to mention that caveat because it puts us in
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: all these different like tangents and avenues and conversations and
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But that's your edge grouping
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: right now. Who's getting Say Bosa misses week I'm just
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: making this up. I don't know if that's in jeopardy now,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: but say he misses week one, and you're going into
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: week one with Greg Russoe, aj Panessa, Landon Jackson, and
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Javon Solomon as your four edges, and maybe they bring
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: someone else up to kind of eat snaps to be
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: a fifth. Like, but those guys are your top four.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: How confident are you that they're gonna be able to
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: get to the quarterback with regularity? With Greg Russoe, Aja Panessa,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Landon Jackson, and Javon Solomon. I think that's a scary proposition.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Even when Hoyt comes back, that's still kind of a
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: scary proposition because you don't have a straight up guy
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: that can just play iceo ball out there. You don't
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: have a bucket getter on the outside at edge like
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: that's what they hoped Von Miller was, and he was
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: until he got hurt. Bosa is the move in that direction. Again,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: This is saying nobody improves. This is saying nobody takes
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: a step. If you just take everybody at face value
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: and they're known quantities right now, the edge grouping from
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: a pass rushing perspective is a little worrisome. If you
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: are the Bills as a run to You're fine, You're fine.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: You're gonna get that from Groop. You know what you're
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: getting from group right, and you know you're gonna get
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: that from Ajpanessa. Again, an aspect of his game that
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I think was underappreciated, underappreciated, a bit overlooked last year.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Landon Jackson will give you that, and I think Salomon
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: will actually give you that. But in terms of pass
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: rushing productivity or fear being struck into the offense, you're
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: not getting that with this group. If nobody improves and
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: nobody takes a jump. So again, if Bosa's out, how
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: do you mitigate that? You need multiple guys to step up.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I think the most likely guy who can continue to
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: incrementally improve and quote unquote step up, either in the
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: absence of Bosa or even if Bosa's there, just because
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: the progression that we've seen is Greg Russo he has
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: made improvement year over year over year, literally every single
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: year that he's been in the league, he's improved as
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: a player. I don't think it's unreasonable to think he
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: improves again this year and starts to get to more
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: of a true edge one as a pass rusher. I
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna go from being an edge two
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: as a pass rusher to all of a sudden being
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: like a top ten overall edge, but I think at
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the end of this season he could be in terms
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: of a load to maybe mid tier edge one is
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: a pass rusher. If you get that, that is a
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: huge win. If he continues to incrementally improve, his contract
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: looks better the age that he's at his play style,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: pairing it with what he is as a run defender.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: If you get that, you're over the move with what
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: you have with Greg Russol. But say you do get that,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: which again I do think that is it's hard to
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: always say that a player is going to improve, But
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: given the track and trend we've seen for Rousseau the
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: past several years and really throughout the entirety of his career.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's unheard of or unrealistic to think
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: he improves again and starts to become more of an
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: edge one as a pass rusher. But even if you
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: get that, that's not enough if you don't have Bosa there,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: because you have Groot who could improve. That means you'd
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: also need improvement from a Japanessa. You need Panessa to
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: go from being more of like an edge four or
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: an edge three to an edge three or an edge two.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: You would need Landon Jackson to be impactful as a
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: rookie right out of the gate. You would need Javon
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Solomon to show that athleticism and that pass rush plan
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: and that moves package in the NFL like he did
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: at Troy. You need multiple guys to step up to
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: fill the hole that Bosa would leave. Again, this is
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: this is the problem with kind of having to play
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: musical chairs at this position almost year in and year out,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: even on the defensive line in general, but at this
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: edge grouping for the Bills like they have these past
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: several years. If someone goes down, you need to fill
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: that spot, but then you also kind of need to
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: fill that spot again the next years. You kind of
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: rotate around and kind of see what happens. Even with
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Bosa banged up a bit, he's still an impactful guy
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: because he raises the floor of the room and adds
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: to the depth of the room. But if he's healthy,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: he is the best pass rusher off the edge. There
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: is no question about that for me. Even if he's
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: banged up, he's still an effective and impactful player off
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the edge. So even if he's just available, he raises
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: the floor and increases the depth of the room. But
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: if he's healthy, and I've said all off season, that's
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: a big if, and given the news we saw today,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: it seems like an even bigger if than maybe we
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: even initially thought, depending on how pessimistic or optimistic you
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: were about it. But if he's healthy, he's a high
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: high high end edge two, which is very good, or
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I think he's still low. He can be a low
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: to a mid tier edge one. So without him in
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: the lineup, you need multiple guys at edge to step
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: up because the rest of the group is more lower
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: tier depth than it is high end depth. I don't
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: think this edge grouping is you know, a bunch of
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: bs and B pluses. I think it's, you know, a
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: couple of B pluses, maybe a potential to have some
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: A minuses and then more B minuses, maybe even a
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: C plus here or there, right, And I think that's
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: kind of being hopeful with guys in some aspects. So
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: if you remove one of the known B pluses or
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: one of the A minus potential, guys, now you need
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: a B minus to become a B, or a B
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: to become a B plus or a C plus to
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: become a B because you're lacking that depth. You're lacking that.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Not only are you lacking depth if Bosa is hurt
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: and unavailable, you're also lacking that ceiling for the group.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: That's what it is with Bosa so much. He impacts
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: not only the depth and the rotation at the edge grouping,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: but he if impacts the ceiling from a realistic standpoint
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: at the edge grouping. Yes, Javon Solomon could take a jump. Yes,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Landon Jackson could be a super impactful rookie. Yes, Ajfpanessa
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: could get back to you know, being more efficient as
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: a rusher and having you know, better impact and productivity
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: as a pass rusher like he did a couple of
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: years ago. Michael Hoyt could be very effective, and I
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: think he will be effective, although again I want to
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: see him moved around more instead of just having him
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: line up at traditional edge. But I say all that
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: to say I think all of those things have a
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: lower probability than Joey Bosa just being an impactful player
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: for them. And if he's healthy, he's their best shot
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: at having a true edge one. So if he's out
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and unable to play, you need multiple guys to step up,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and it starts from the top down. You need group
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: to take a jump, and then you need two other
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: guys to take some kind of jump. And that's just
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: that's hard to expect that and want that. And that's
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: part of why I think his importance level to this defense,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: rightly or wrongly. Like if you want to if you're
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: frustrated at what I'm saying, that's I don't don't yell.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Let me yell at Brandon Beef for putting the eggs
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: in this basket. I don't know what to tell you,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: but I think that's what's being undersold a little bit
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: in this conversation. With his importance level to the Bills
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: defense because all things considered from a known quantity perspective,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: if everyone is healthy at edge, from a known quantity perspective,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: he is the Bill's best pass rusher and he's their
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: best chance at having an edge one. If you want
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to say it's groot, then yeah, I'm sorry. I saw
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: this and just laughing. I said, I see what you're saying,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: and you want to see Dion Walker and Dwayne Carter
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: take snaps at edge like they did at college. Well played,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: well played, Well done, Nick. If all things are equal
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and everyone is healthy, Bosa is the best shot for
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: the Bills at having a true edge one. Is a
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: pass rusher off the edge, and even if he's banged up,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: he's still in kind of an edge two conversation, and
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: he's still impactful, which helps the depth and helps the rotation.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I think him being unable to play or significantly hindered,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: that's it too, right. The more he misses time or
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: the more he's significantly hindered, the greater the impact is. Obviously.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I just don't think that's being talked about enough. I
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: think people think it's more of like, yeah, if they
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: get bos in he's effective cool if not, like, no
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: big deal. You know, they got Javon Solomon waiting the wings,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: they drafted Land and Jackson. I don't think it's as
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: easily cut and dry as that. I think there's this
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: group is much more questionable than the conversation is or
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: the narrative is around this group. And I think a
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Bosa injury impacts this group much more significantly than gets
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: talked about. And that's why this injury already. For me,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I wasn't hanging my hat on Bosa this year and thinking.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking that he was going to be healthy.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I was hoping that he would. But I just think
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: he's more important to this edge grouping for this year
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: than he's being talked about because again, if he's out,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: multiple edges have to step up in his absence. From
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: a pass first perspective, now the other way you can
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: mitigate his absence, you know, and all of this too.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get into too much of the scheme
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and structure stuff tonight because I'm gonna get into some
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: of that as we go forward in the offseason. But
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: you can mitigate with creativity, right, simulated pressures creepers, you know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: five man rushes, six man rushers, coverage stuff on the back,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: and there are schematic ways that you can mitigate, you know,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: a talent deficiency or a lack of rotational quality or
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: depth by doing different things from a schematics perspective, right,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: So that's also kind of in there. I just want
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: to put that on the back burner a little bit
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: and focus more on the roster and the players and
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: the individual aspect more so than the higher level schematic
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: conversation which will happen later in this offseason as we
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: go forward. So that is another piece, right, So if
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: he's out, how do you mitigate it? You can do
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: it schematically, right, You can do with the x's and
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: o's and structure. You can do it by having multiple
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: people at edge step up. I want to emphasize that
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: it has to be multiple. Even with Bosa being there,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: you still ideally need group to take a jump or
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: someone else to take a jump to really make this
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: group impactful, especially for the first six games with kind
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: of Hoype being out a little bit. I know that's
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: not the end all, be all. I'm not trying to
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: continue to drill down on the you know hoiping out
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: in the first six games and what that means, but
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: it matters. So you can do it with scheme, do
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: it with structure, You can do it with multiple edges
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: stepping up or and this is what I would look
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: for the Bills to kind of hang their head on
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: more from an individual standpoint, from a talent standpoint, I
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: hope that the inside rush from the Bills defensive line
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: is enough that it takes heat and pressure no pun
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: intended off of the edge grouping and the inside is
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: what drives this defense. The interior defensive line is what
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: drives this defense. But again that still requires some projection
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and some effectiveness. So inside rush at Oliver if Joey
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Bosa is out, or even if he's playing but he's
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: banged up, whatever, you need group to take a jump
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: this year, and you need Ed Oliver to get back
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: into form this year. Now. Eric and I talked about
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: some things for Ed Oliver last week in the film
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: room and talked about, you know, kind of how he
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: had a bit of a down year in twenty twenty
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: four and didn't really build on the strong year he
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: had the previous year. We talked about why so I
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: don't want to get into too much of it. But
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: you need ed Oliver to be more of the guy
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: that you pay. You need him to be more impactful
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: down in and down out, week in and week out,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: game in and game out. You need that in general,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: even with Bosa. You need that at Oliver. You need
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: more of twenty ti twenty three at Oliver than twenty
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: twenty four at Oliver, or you need the twenty twenty
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: four at Oliver that showed up in the AFC Championship
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: against the Chiefs, against the run and the pass, blowing
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: up Joe Toney, drilling Mahomes, stopping the run. You need
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: that at Oliver weekend in, week out, regardless of what
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: happens with Bosa. But you need it even more so
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: if Bosa's out and unavailable. And then also within that
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: the firepower that they've added on inside inside. I really
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: do think they genuinely improve the inside rush from a
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: pass rust perspective. The only thing that Mundy's ad a
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: little bit, you know, yeah, Larry Ogunjoby Sweet also suspended
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: for the first six games. I do think TJ. Sanders
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: will help. I do have questions around him in terms
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: of what he's going to be as a run defender
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: mainly against double teams. The violence, the motor and the
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: tenacity and the gap shooting will play very much against
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the run. My issue with TJ. Sanders is just more
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: of someone more of a narrow bass and how he's built.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I know he's gonnap. I think he's gonna up playing
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: around three O five three ten. We'll kind of see
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: what way he plays at, but just his size frame
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and narrow base a little bit. While that's gonna play
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: against double teams, I continue to worry about displacement and
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: teams being able to blow the bills off the ball
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: within their spine. I'm talking about both defensive tackle spots
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: gettingto the linebackers and just creating problems and people moving
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: the bills left and right on the interior. I worry
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: about that. I'm still worried about that, even when the
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: defensive line is entirely healthy. I'm still worried about that
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: because when the defensive line is healthy, three of your
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: four top interior guys are going to be Ed, Oliver, Larry, Ogunjobi,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: and TJ. Sanders. Ed is undersized. We'll see what weight
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: and size Sanders plays at. But he struggles with double
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: teams at times, Larry Ogunjobe struggles with double teams, he'll
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: get displaced. And then you've got day Quon kind of
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: mixed in with that as well. We'll see what you
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: get from Dwayne Carter, We'll see what you get from
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Dean Walker. Hopefully you get something from one of those guys,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: because again Ogin Jobe is suspended for the first six games,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: so you need Walker to step up, you need Carter
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: to step up. And as where's this comment, Nick says,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: t J Sanders might just get a pretty big role
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: early on, especially you know, with what's going on. I
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: think he will get a significant role early on, in
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: a big role early on. But it's just what are
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: you gonna get from him? Again, he is an unknown quantity.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Even if you love TJ Sanders, and I like TJ
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Sanders a lot, I like that pick. I wanted, as
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: folks know, I wanted more presence from a run defense standpoint.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I wanted more plugging capability, I wanted more stout. I
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: wanted Tyler Williams very very very very very badly. But
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: I like t J. Sanders. The penetration, the juice, the
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: lateral agility, the explosion, the violence is all very real
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: with him. But I like him more than I like
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Landon Jackson. But just like Landon Jackson, and just like
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: any rookie, it's all projection. We have no idea what
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: kind of pro TJ. Sanders is going to be with.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: He could be Warren Sap as a rookie, or he
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: could be Dwayne Carter as a rookie. And I know, though,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: you know, those skill sets are different, and I'm not
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: saying he's the same as either of those players, but
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: it's all just unknown. Everything with rookies and draft picks,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: it's all projection. It's an inexact science. That's why guys
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: are paid highly to scout and evaluate, and it's why
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: teams don't have crazy guy hit rates. If you hit
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: two or three draft picks out of the seven you
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: normally have, that's a strong class. It's hard to hit
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: on dudes. So Sanders is another dude who is an
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: unknown quantity on the interior. I think it's tough to
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: hang your hat on another unknown quantity on the interior.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: But if you're building out the interior defensive line right
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: now again for Week one, because Ogen Jobey suspended, your
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: top three dudes are at Oliver, Daikwon Jones, and TJ. Sanders.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: But with everything equal again, once Ogun Joby comes back,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: and once you do have a top four of at Oliver,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Daikwon Jones, Larry Ogunjobi, and TJ. Sanders. I do think
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the's inside rush will help if Bosa is out or
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: if Bosa is banged up. I think the inside pass
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: rush will be a key component of the Bills defense
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: this year. I think they did a good job improving it.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I think the jury is still out on how they'll
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: hold up against displacement and how they'll hold up against
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: the run, specifically double teams, combo blocks, anything that's trying
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: to people move them a little bit. I think we
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: will see what that looks like the more we kind
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: of get in season. Baltimore will be a good test
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: early on, especially with Ogun Jobe out. Baltimore their gap
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: scheme runs and their people moving capability and their displacement capability.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, they ran all over the Bills in the playoffs.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: They ran all over the Bills in the regular season.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: They pretty much run all over everybody. Let's be honest,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: whether it's Henry or Mitchell or Hall or Lamar like
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: they run all over everybody, So it'll be a good
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: test for them, especially without Ogun Joby, who isn't necessarily
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: a premier run defender at all. He's more juice and
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: penetration and rush like they like. But I think the
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: inside rush can do a lot to mitigate any ineffective
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: or absence from Joey Bosa. The issue again is early
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: on you just have to kind of hang your hat
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: on another rookie, same thing that you would have to
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: do at edge. If Bosa's out, you have to hang
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: your hat a little bit more on land In Jackson
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: and hope he's kind of ready. You got to do
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: that on the interior regardless of what happens with Bosa.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: You have to do anything on the interior with TJ. Sanders.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I just think that's tough to expect that right away,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: to be like, hey, we need this second round rookie
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: to come in and be an impactful player right out
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: of the gate and make things happen. And that's why
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: he's still trying to learn the game. He's going to
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: have run defense responsibilities, so having to holistically or completely
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I should say, lean on the inside rush and that
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: inside rush having significant contributions from a rookie early on,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: that's a hard way to live again, it can happen,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: but this is all part of the conversation I wanted
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: to have in this episode tonight, Like if Bosa's out
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: or unavailable, it's not the end of the world. You
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: can still mitigate it. Again, not talking scheme right now,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: we're just talking even though it's part of the conversation.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: But you can mitigate it with scheme, and you can
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: mitigate it from an individual standpoint. But you need a
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: lot of things to click, You need a lot of
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: things to fall into place, You need a lot of
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: things to go right on the interior and at edge,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: all from one guy just being out, and the odds
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: of him being out at some point we're already decently high.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: But then the fact that he already picked up an
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: injury before we even got into the season probably increases
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: those odds even further. So it's a little scary black Man.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: There's this Joey Bo's a good break his foot on
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: a blade of grass, where Charles says, I think I
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: mitigate the pressure on the d line by having Bernard
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: blitzing more like in twenty twenty three to support the
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: pass rush. I would, especially Millonald's healthy I'm looking for
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: simulated pressures and creeper pressures from the bills all day,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: especially in No. One passing down in distances and situations. Blitz.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Bernard's a tremendous blitzer. Milonald's a good blitzer. I would
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: lean into that aspect and the coverage versatility on the
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: back in addition to little things like playing more press
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: or just playing even more offman and letting Bernard and
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Harston kind of sit and then close and trigger. I
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: think you need to lean into some of the versatility
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: that you've got with those guys at the second level
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: being Milano, Bernard, Taron Johnson, Benford Harriston, who I'm assuming
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: wins the corner two job, and even Cold Bishop a
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: little bit right like, use Cold Bishop in and around
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage as much as possible, let him fly,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: let him lean into that skill set and his traits
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: and his athleticism. Again is I think most of you
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: folks know. I do think Cold Bishop is significantly better
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: the closer he is to the line of scrimmage and
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: the more he plays coming forward as opposed to dropping
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: deep and going back. But yeah, you could see you know,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: more traditional blitzes and more sims or creepers from the
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: bills with Bernard and Milano if they need to. Again,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: the only issue with that is then you open yourselves
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: up for you know, you have to win with the
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: scheme or you have to win with the call, and
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: if you don't, then you're either lacking numbers in coverage
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: because you brought traditional brick blitz like a five or
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: six man pressure, or you've brought a sim or a creeper,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: meaning you have a non traditional coverage player in a
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: coverage role. I'm meaning a defensive tackle or a defensive end,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: which again I love because I love that type of work,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: but it does come with some risk. But if they
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: have to, they have to. Jim jack says, if Landon
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Jackson is even a shade better than Epanessa or Solomon,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I think that will make a big difference. I would
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: agree with that from especially from an Epanessa standpoint. If
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Landon Jackson is a shade better than aj Panessa, I
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: think that helps a lot. Like if you especially a
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Bosa is able to play, or when Bosa plays and
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: you've got a top four of you know, Bosa or
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not putting this in order, but Bosa, groot Hoyt, Jackson, Epanessa,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I guess top five that would be. That's a nice
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: rounded out group, especially from a run defense standpoint and
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: known quantity standpoint. Then if you just get a little
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: bit more of an uptick from Jackson is a pass rusher,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I think that helps a little bit too. But yeah,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: if Jackson's a shade better than Epanessa, I think that
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: matters a lot. I would just like that in conjunction
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: with group also taking a jump or something like that.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I just think you need multiple of those kind of
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: shade jumps or this guy plays a shade better than
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: this guy. But yeah, if Jackson is a shade better
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: than Epanessa, I think that helps a lot. Even if
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: both even if boasts out, that still helps. Because a
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: top three of Groot Point, Jackson and Epanessa. Again, I
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: think there's still gonna be questions as from a pass
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: rush standpoint, from a true get you a bucket pass
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: rush standpoint, but you can get some violence and effectiveness,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: some pocket compression, and then some run defense as well.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: So I do think that's a that's a fair comment there.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Where's this coming from James? James says, do you think
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: the new d line coach will make a difference? Supposedly
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: very good? Yeah, Ryan Nielsen. I do like Ryan Nielsen.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: I liked him as what he did schematically as a
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator of the Falcons in twenty twenty three. I
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: like the sims and his creepers, especially for a defense
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: that didn't really have a lot of talent. And I
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: know the Jags were dumpster fire last year in a
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: multitude of ways. But and again, he's supposed to be
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: more you know, he's a consultant or whatever he's labeled
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: as for the Bills this year, but he's more on
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: the defensive line than he is anywhere else. But I
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: liked how much press he played with the Jags last year.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I do think the Bills need to play more press
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: and restrict airspace as much as possible. But I do
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: think he'll make a difference. I think we'll see more
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: violence up front, and I do think we'll see more
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: schematic creativity as far as sims and creepers, just because
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: that's the world that he lives in. So I think
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: we'll see Epanessa drop into coverage. I think we'll see
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: t J. Sanders or at Oliver drop into a low hole.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I think we'll see that from Hoyt. I think Nielsen
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: is a guy who really could unlock Michael Hoyt, just
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: with again with his schematic creativity and what he did
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and then having a guy like Hoyt who
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: has alignment versatility and schematic flex I do think that
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: could be a really good piece. I like that Claude
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: says the offense is going to be better. That should
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: give the d some rope until the suspension's end. Except
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: for week one. Yeah, I think the offense will Even
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: if the offense isn't better. I think the offense is fine.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not really concerned about the offense, even from and
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say this is like a huge jinx,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: but even from a pass perspective, I don't think they
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: have the best weapons at receiver if you're going to
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: pass the ball forty or fifty times. But if they
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: run the offense that they did last year, which is
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: what I'm expecting, they're fine. They're gonna go condensed. They're
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: gonna go with thirteen personnel and twelve personnel and have
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: six offensive lineman sets, and they're just gonna mash teams
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: and run the ball. Like the foundation of this offense
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: is running the football down, down defensive throats and through
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: their face, and I think they're fine for that, and
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: then leaning on Allen to be an MVP and guys better.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I like the addition of Josh Palmer, even though I
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: think some folks are overblowing it a bit more than others.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's this you know, vertical threat that
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: some of the statistics kind of make him out to be,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: or some of the reps that people cherry pick and
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: kind of point to. But I do think he's got
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: a good release package. I think he's got some explosion
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: zero to ten yards. I think he can work well
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: in the underneath and intermediate and he can separate definitively
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: in those areas, which helps Alan. I'm interested to see
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: who fills the Mac Collins blocking role. I know that's
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: a stupid, by by stupid thing for some, but man,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: he was so he was at Collins was an effective
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: pass catcher last year when called upon, but he was
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: really good as a blocker. So I'm concerned in kind
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: of seeing who fills that role, and James said, don't
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: forget Spencer Hawes. Nice reference. Yeah I am. I'm excited
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: for the additional Hawes. I like him as a blocker,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: and I think he can do some things in the
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: underneath and low intermediate as a pass catcher, but just
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: him as a people mover. What they can do in
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: the run game. One game is what moves this Bill's offense.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I know, Allen's the MVP quarterbacks, the most important position
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: in football, YadA, YadA, all that, but the run is
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: what stirs the drink for this Bill's offense and even
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: makes the drink for this Bill's offense. The run game
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: is what moves this team. So yeah, I think the
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I think the offense will be fine overall. Miguel says,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: do you think Cole wins the job over DeMar this season? Man?
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I hope so. I hope I think he does. If
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: he doesn't, I think that says more about Cole Bishop
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: than it does DeMar Hamlin. I don't think, and I
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: don't mean this negatively, I don't think DeMar Hamlin is
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: getting better. I think he is very much a known quantity.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: His ceiling was always limited. He was a higher four
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: kind of guy. He works in this defense because of
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: his familiarity with similar thing with the defense schematically and structurally,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: coming from Pitt and what he was in college. But
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I just think your ceiling is so capped as a
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: defense with Hamlin, and his ceiling as a player is
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: so capped that if Cole Bishop doesn't win, if Cold
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Bishop doesn't beat out to mar Hamlin, you got a problem.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Like that says a lot about Cold Bishop in a
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: negative way. No offense is to mar Hamlin. I actually
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: think like I think the starting safety opposite of Taylor Rap.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: I think it'll end up being Cold Bishop, and I
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: think they want it to be Cold Bishop. I'm not
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: ruling out Derek Forrest. I know that might sound crazy,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: but he's just got this weird mix of traits in
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: a good way. Not necessarily weird, but he's got an
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: overall good mix of traits where he's like a six
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: to a six point eight or seven on almost everything.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: He's not sexy in any one area, but he gives
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: them some good versatility and he kind of pairs well
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: with Taylor Rap that it wouldn't surprise me completely if
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: he won the other safety spot. But I do think
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: it's cold Bishop. And then they love Hamlin and they
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: love known quantity, so he's always going to be in
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: that mix. But if cold Bishop can't beat out to
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: mar Hamlin, you got a problem. Like that's scary for
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Cole Bishop, Like you should be able to beat up
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: to mar Hamlin. If you don't, that's a problem. And
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: then that I wouldn't write off Bishop in that mold,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: but like, do your second round pick coming into your
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: second year and you can't beat that guy out like
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: like that, Uh, that's no Buno. Where are we nick? Saying?
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Bishop lived in that apex role in college. Not sure
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: how much of that work he gets at the Bills though, Yeah,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: that's something I continued to say, like I think his
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: his fit in the Bills defense is more projection than
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: it is anything. I thought he was better suited for
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: a defense like the Ravens or like the Patriots, where
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: he can play a safety role that's you know, some safety,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: some apex and he can blitz from the slot, and
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: he can blitz from an off ball linebacker spot, and
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: he can drop as a low hole player, and he
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: can cover tight ends and man up on tight ends
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: and running backs and live anywhere and anywhere in and
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: around the s line of scrimmage, sideline to sideline, in
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: and around the box. But the Bills had that and
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Taron Johnson, and then they use their safeties interchangeably but
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: more traditionally from a coverage standpoint. So that's why I
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: questioned the fit. But he's got a really good athletic
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: profile and they picked them, so we got to hope
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: it works. Oh WHOA, thank you very much for super chat, yo, miss,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: and thank you much for being here. Thank you very
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: much for super chat and the monetary donation. I appreciate you.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: The comment here is, hey, aunt, huge fanning ers all,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: thank you very much. As a fan, it's fine to
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: be optimistic about your team. But I checked every Super
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Bowl winner since nineteen ninety and found, oh, this is
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: a good one, and found at least three game changers
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: slash all pros. Who are the Bills game changers? This
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: is a tremendous question, and this is something I've talked
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: about for the past several years. I thought that the
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Bills have have had a good amount of depth on
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: the roster, but not a lot of high end or
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: or top tier players game changers, if you will, kind
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: of I thought for years it was just really Allen
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: and Diggs, especially offensively, and then they got rid of
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Diggs and that was happening as like Poyer and Hyde
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: were starting to decline. Sudevias White was injured, Like you
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: went from having all Pro caliber receiver and the quarterback
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: and an all Pro corner and some all Pro safeties
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: and then that kind of changed a little bit. So
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: who are the Bills game changers? So I'm not even
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: gonna say Josh Allen because I feel like he doesn't
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: count because that's a given. So who are the Bills
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: game changers? So, and I'm gonna put this with a
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: caveat too, right, like the game changers for the Bills
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: is what I'm gonna name. I don't know if these
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: guys would necessarily be put into the game changer category
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: if they were on other teams, but given their role
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: on the Bills, and given while the Bills are built,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: they would be the game changers for the Bills. I'll
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: say Greg Russo because he's a force multiplier against the run.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping, I'm hoping one of them is Christian Benford.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping he starts to put himself into a conversation
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: in terms of like an all pro corner lockdown aside.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: I think Christian Benford can be in that conversation in
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: terms of being a game changer. I think he's starting
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: to grow into a guy that can shut down a
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: side of the ball and match up with anybody that
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: kind of gets put up against him with his size
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: and athleticism profile. We've seen him bang bodies with bigger
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: bodied wide receivers, and we've seen him go toe to
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: toe with speed receivers like Tyreek Hill and still be
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: able to function and actually win and take the ball
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: away in that regard, but probably the like the best
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: game changers from the perspective of like if you put
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: them on other teams and they'd still be game changers.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Probably Dean Dawkins and Spencer Brown, Like, I think they've
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: grown into a really good tackle combination. Dean Dawkins is
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: already one of the really good left tackles in the league.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I think Spencer Brown is starting to put himself into
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: a conversation of being a really good right tackle and
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: maybe even one of the best. I think, like if
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: you put Spencer Brown on a lot of teams, he
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: would be a good right tackle for a lot of teams.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I think if you put Dion Dawkins on a lot
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: of teams, he'd be a good left tackle on a
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: lot of teams. I think that's kind of how I
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: wanted to find it. I also think you could maybe
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: put James Cook into that category just with how he
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: elevated the Bills run game last year. And I think
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Khalisha Kiir is in the game changer conversation with the
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: year that he had last year. If Mlanal can be healthy,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I think he's a game changer because he's an All
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Pro caliber linebacker. I just don't know how much of
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: that Milana is still left there given the age, given
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: the miles on the tires, and some of the injuries
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: that he's picked up. And I think at Oliver can
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: be a game changer, he's just inconsistent. Again, those are
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: all like really for the Bills. The only guys that
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: I really think if you took them out of the
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Bills and put them on other teams would still be
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: you know, top tier guys on other teams or like
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: classified as game changers. I think it would be Spencer
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Brown and Deonda Hawkins. I think that's kind of where Yeah,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. Hmmm, yeah, I think that's what
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I'll go with. That's what I'll go with. Oh you honest?
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Another thank you for the other super chat here, and
• 55:17
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• 55:23
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• 55:31
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• 55:34
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• 55:36
  Speaker 1: He's pretty sweet. Jim Jacks says Alan Cook Shakir in
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: my opinion, Yeah, I think that's I Cook had a
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: significant jump last year. Let's see Pete saying it's a
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: tough box to fill. Is the question. History is written
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: by the victors, and guys get a legacy boost from
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. For example, Bernard causing fumbles in a Super
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Bowl rather than in an early exit has a new lens.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: That's fair. I classify it more is like if if
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: I'm going with a game changer, especially off of the
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: way like it was phrasing the question, I'm thinking of
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: like guys who I equated to guys that are like
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: top tier players at their positions or like S tier
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: a tier, blue chip kind of guys, and then if
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: you put them on other teams would still be that. Like.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: So I mentioned Benford because I think Benford is getting
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: to a spot where he could be a corner one
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: on a lot of teams. And I think Greg Russau
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: is gonna be a really good edge for a lot
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: of teams. I think at Oliver can be that guy.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: He's just up and down. Spencer Brown and Dean Dawkins
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: from here are the biggest known quantities with it, just
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: because of the way that they both play, their play styles,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: their skill sets, their trade size, frame, athleticism, all that
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: like they translate into multiple schemes. Spencer Brown is still
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: getting better, so that's kind of why I lean into them. Shakira,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I think, is an interesting one because I think I
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: really like Shakira and I think he's really good. But
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I do think he's somewhat scheme dependent, which is why
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily just put him in like the same
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: type of game changer categories like Stefan Diggs was. But
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: to your point, P Yeah, it is a tough box
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: to fill, is a question, and that's actually really good.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna make note of this, Like I don't want
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: to make a full scale episode about this, especially as
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: we go forward in the offseason, because there's like it's
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: hard to find content. You want to do stuff and
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: break things down. This is a really good one. I
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: might actually mark this down and make this a full
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: tier episode, especially when juxtaposing them, like like for the
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Chiefs for example, like you know, well, maybe Kelsey's fading
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: a little bit, but you know it's like, Okay, Mahomes,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: not gonna count him, but create Humphrey, Trey Smith. It
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: was Travis Kelsey, he's fading a little bit. But you know, McDuffie, Jones.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I think Justin Reid was a game changer, not necessarily
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: at the top tier like McDuffie and Jones, but like
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: you had kind of easier known caliber quantity guys there,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: like I think the Ravens. You got Lamar and you
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: have Henry Mark Andrews was at times, but then defensively
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: you've got rokwand you've got Metabik, You've got Kyle Hamilton. Yeah,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: oh good call. I could believe forgot two from Curtis.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I'm so I feel so terrible. Taron Johnson is up
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: there one thousand percent on thousand thousand percent. Taron Johnson
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: is an all pro caliber corner. Uh. I can't believe
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: I've forgot Aron Johnson. Taron Johnson is a Yeah, it
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: is a is an easy Ooh, I don't know. I
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: don't think Benford's a top five corner. I do think
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: he's still ascending and very good. I don't think Benford's
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: the top five corner. Taron Johnson is an easy. Top
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: three slot Dawkins in Brown, top five left tackle, right tackle.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I'd have to think about that. I'm not dismissing it.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I think it's a possibility, which is fun Teraron Johnson.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: I definitely think top three slot Dawkins and Brown is interesting. Benford,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a top five corner, though. I
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: think he's still ascending and by the end of the year,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: I think he could be in a conversation for like
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: top ten to seven. I don't know if I'm ready
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: to put him into that top five category yet though.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I know Jim Jack saying Brentford was
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: number was DVA number four cornerback and lowest target rate
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: ten percent should have been in the Pro Bowl one.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think target rate necessarily means you're crushing it.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: It could just be that you could not get targeted
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: just because the corner on the opposite side of you.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is the case of the Bills,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: but you could have a low target rate just because
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: the corner on the opposite side of you sucks and
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: they're just going after that guy instead. So low target
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: rate doesn't necessarily mean we're not going to we're not
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: going at that guy because we're scared of him. It
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: could just be like, well, the better matchup is literally
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: anywhere else as we're so we're going to go over there.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: And yeah, he had several good advanced metrics areas. I
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: just think it's tough with corners and advanced metrics stuff
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: and also scheme dependent things too, right, like you know,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: are you a zone corner? Are you a cloud corner?
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Are you a quarter's corner? Are you a match guy?
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Are you a man guy? Are you a press man guy?
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: How do you work? How do you function? I do
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: think Christian Benford is a very good It's a very
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: good corner, and I think by the end of the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: year he could be in that conversation of you know,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: top ten corners, like I think Taylor's is a here
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Benford top nine to twelve. Yeah, I think that's fair
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: for Christian Benford. Right now I want to look up oh,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: like if I had to link. Yeah, So for me,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just looking at like list of corners right now
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: to kind of put in my thought, Like I think
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Derek Stingley is a better corner than Benford. Again, they're
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: different too, like the kind of coverage of Stingley functions in.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Even Benford's a better run defender and a forced player
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: and a tackler than Stinglee. Like again, Benford's no slouch.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: I just think top five might be a little generous
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: right now. But yeah, I think Stingley's ahead of them.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: I think Pastor Tan is ahead of them. I think
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Denzel Ward is ahead of him. I don't think Jalen
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Johnson is top five, but I really like Jalen Johnson.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: And that's all. That's only just four off the top
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: of my head. Depending on what you think of Jalen Ramsey,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: jy R, Alexander aj Terrell, Marlon Humphrey inside outside versatility
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: depend on what you think of Tret McDuffie. I still
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: think you can play outside, but there's again scheme and
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: structure and usage kind of plays into it. But I
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: think Christian Menford is very good and I like Christian
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Bedford a lot. Man. That's a good question to have. Mmm.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Now I'm just really thinking of like all the game changers,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: and like if you took the Bills players off teams,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: off the Bills and put them on other teams, what
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: that would mean and what that would do. That was
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: a fun little segue. I appreciate that. Be honest. I
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: think it's the honest. It's gotta be honest, right Yo,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: N I s I'm horrible with names. I think it's
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: the honest. If I'm mispronouncing that, I significantly apologize. But
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: thank you very much for being here thinking for the
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: super chats. I like that. But again, so to kind
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: of put that on a perspective within the Bosa conversation,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: I know we got off track. Shocker that I got
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: off track on a show. I can't. I know, everyone's like,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't believe that happened. Crazy. I
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: think the injury concerns for Bosa are worrisome obviously because
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: he comes with an injury history, so it's not like, oh,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: this is flash in the pan, he'll be find I
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: just think his importance to this team is a bit understated,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: and I think his importance level to the Buffalo Bill's
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: defense is higher than it's being covered or being given
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: credit for just what we broke down off this episode. Again,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: I think without him you don't necessarily have a true
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: pass rushing edge one unless Greg Russou takes a jump.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: So in order to mitigate the absence of Joey Bosa
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: or less impact or less effectiveness if he's banged up
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: all the time, were significantly banged up, you need multiple
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: guys to take a jump to kind of fill his role.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: And even within that, you're still kind of hoping someone
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: can push that ceiling. Like he not only rounds out
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: the depth and raises the floor, he is one of
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: the guys who can stretch the ceiling for this edge
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: grouping from a pass rushing perspective, and again, he is
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: a good run defender. I just don't think he's gonna
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: be used a lot in that role if he's healthy,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: because the Bills have that in groot Epanessa, hoyt Land
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: and Jackson, Like I do think folks will be more
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: of a pass russ specialist. They don't, but they don't
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: have anybody like him who man just is so good
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: at getting tackles off their game and off leverage and
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: getting them to misstep, and how he understands how to
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: create space and take angles, and his efficiency at getting
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: to the quarterbacks drop and understanding rush plan and path
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: to the quarterback and quarterback drops. He just I think
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: he matters a lot more than the conversation is being
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: focused or centered around him right now. And if he's
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: if he's unable to go, if he's injured, if he
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: misses time, or if he's so banged up that he's
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: just not very impact, you need other guys to step
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: up because you don't have from a known quantity perspective
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: right now, he is your best chance at having a
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: pass rushing edge one off the edge obviously, because I
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: don't know why I said that twice known quantity. Right now,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: if everybody's healthy, Joey Bosa is the Bill's best shot
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: or option at edge one from a pass rushing perspective.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean group can't take a jump. That doesn't
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: mean any of these guys can't take a jump or
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: heavy ear. I'm talking purely from a known quantity perspective,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: off of what we've seen from these other guys in
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: the league to this point. Sample size uses all that stuff.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: He's their best shot at having a pass rushing edge one,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: and at worst he's a high high high end edge two,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: which pairs very very very well with Greg Russo. Again,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: this edge grouping needs either a running made for Greg
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Russo or someone to be the batman to Greg Russo.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Unless Greg russoe makes another jump and suddenly becomes batman,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: which he could. I just think that's a lot to ask,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: given the incremental improvement he's had, rather than and just
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: you know, shooting kind of to the mood moon, I
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: should say pizza is. In twenty twenty four, bols To
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: have played four hundred and fifty regular season snaps and
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: was effective in the playoffs. We just need to duplicate that.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: That's it. Put him in bubble wrap, let him be healthy.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Let again he is a good run defender. The tape
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: shows that. His career shows that when he was healthy.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: But he doesn't need to be a run defender for
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: the Bills because they have Group they have that Vanessa,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: they have Hoyt, they have Landon Jackson, even Javon Solomon.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Like they've got guys who can mash and play the
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: run and do that. Like they don't need Bosa to
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: do that. Can he? Sure well, they have him do it,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: probably sparingly, but they don't need him to do it.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: And to peach point here, yeah, get some snaps. Just
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: be effective in the playoffs. That's it. Give me enough
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: that you can just go and be eighty five to
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  Speaker 1: ninety five percent in the playoffs and just do that. Please, please, please,
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  Speaker 1: Argie says, do they bring Von back on a Batman contract?
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  Speaker 1: He still hasn't sign anywhere yet. Correct, No, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he's signed anywhere. Maybe they kick the tires on him.
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  Speaker 1: That would be interesting if but I mean it boats
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  Speaker 1: is out long term, It boastes out long term. I
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  Speaker 1: think they have to bring in somebody just because especially
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  Speaker 1: for the first six games, like it's just I don't
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  Speaker 1: think you can play the first six games with the
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  Speaker 1: top four of Group A, Panessa, Landon Jackson and Javon Solomon.
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  Speaker 1: There's just too many unknowns with There's too many unknowns
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  Speaker 1: overall with Jackson and Solomon, and there's way too many
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  Speaker 1: questions from a pass rush perspective. So yeah, Boats is out.
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  Speaker 1: I think they minimum they need to bring in some
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  Speaker 1: kind of known quantity as a pass rusher for the
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  Speaker 1: first six games, maybe even longer, depending on what goes
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  Speaker 1: from there. Curtis says, over under six and a half
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  Speaker 1: sacks for Land and Jackson, I'm gonna say under if
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  Speaker 1: he get I would maybe again it playing time is
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  Speaker 1: gonna matter so much, so how much does Bosa get hurt?
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'll say like four. I think four to
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  Speaker 1: five is faster. I think that's faster. Jim Jack says,
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  Speaker 1: do you think the Bills need to send faster guys
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  Speaker 1: on Blitzer against someone like Mahomes? Seems like our downfall
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  Speaker 1: has been getting to him and not getting him down
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  Speaker 1: like the Eagles did. I think the biggest issue is
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the guys the Bills gravitate towards the
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  Speaker 1: defensive line are pocket compressors and not great change of
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  Speaker 1: direction guys. So when they have to get Mahomes down,
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  Speaker 1: they don't necessarily have the body fluidity or the athleticism
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  Speaker 1: to kind of move with him and get him down.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily about faster guys. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's more about the body types they've leaned into those
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  Speaker 1: body types more. Again, like Landon, Jackson and Grout are
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  Speaker 1: similar in being not being very change of direction based,
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  Speaker 1: especially Jackson, who's very high cut. It is more of linear,
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  Speaker 1: straight line type of player than he has changed direction,
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  Speaker 1: bounce around athleticism type of dude. I think it's just
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  Speaker 1: more about I think it's more about past Russ integrity
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  Speaker 1: from a past Russ lane perspective, not getting too much
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  Speaker 1: out of your gaps, and multiple guys winning together. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the biggest thing. You need multiple guys to
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  Speaker 1: win against Mahomes. That's what the Eagles had, and I
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  Speaker 1: mean multiple guys like overall down in and down out,
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  Speaker 1: but like on the same down, like the Eagles had
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  Speaker 1: guys winning off the edge and guys winning inside. You
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  Speaker 1: need that against the Chiefs. It can't just be oh man,
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  Speaker 1: your edge beat their right tackle. Cool. Mahomes can just
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  Speaker 1: step up and avoid that. Oh Man, your defensive tackle one.
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  Speaker 1: He might be able to side step that and step up.
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  Speaker 1: You need multiple guys winning on the same down and
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  Speaker 1: down to down. Like he's just tough in general, and
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  Speaker 1: you need the right body types. But considering the Bills
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  Speaker 1: don't really have the right body types, they need multiple
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  Speaker 1: guys winning and the pocket compressing in together and in conjunction,
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  Speaker 1: which is tough. Oh and Pete says there will be
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  Speaker 1: pastors available at the trade deadline if need be. Zidarius
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  Speaker 1: I say all that to say, I do think Bosa's
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  Speaker 1: importance to this team is being a bit undersold and understated.
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  Speaker 1: I think it matters more than is being talked about
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  Speaker 1: in circles small or large. And this is not a
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  Speaker 1: we haven't even got into the season yet, and the
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  Speaker 1: progresses throughout this offseason. Again, Sean McDermot said he's likely
• 1:13:40
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  Speaker 1: We'll see if they ease him in during training camp.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see what that ramp up schedule looks like going
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  Speaker 1: But regardless healthy or now, I think he has much
• 1:14:01
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