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Were the media and Democrats betting against us finding our soldiers? · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

• 0:04
  Welcome to After Dark of the American Outlaw Party Network.
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  I am your host, Rob Harper.
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  My co-host tonight is Heather Robinson, a contributor for the New York Post.
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  Heather, how are you tonight?
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  Doing fine, Rob.
• 0:16
  How are you?
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  Heather, I am doing great.
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  Thank you.
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  I hope you had a great Passover.
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  I had a fantastic Easter.
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  And now here we are to discuss the latest news that's taken place.
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  And I think at top of mine, the two soldiers who went missing or were shot down by the Iranians last week.
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  We found one.
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  And over the weekend, on Easter Sunday, actually, we found the other.
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  So I want to say congratulations to Mr.
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  President and to Peak Hexett for the recovery of our soldiers.
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  They have now been brought home.
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  But something that I found interesting, Heather, about all this is that the media, and we've talked about this before.
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  Since this, and I'm going to say war now, since everyone is calling it a war, although, as I've always said, only Congress can declare war, but even President Trump is saying war.
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  But since this started, I've noticed that the media has not once said any given Trump any congratulatory said anything positive about what our military has achieved.
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  They didn't say anything positive, what we achieved in Venezuela.
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  Now in Iran, when we went in, even this past last summer, they said nothing positive about Operation Hummer when we went in and we blew up their abilities to enrich uranium.
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  In fact, they said that, oh, you you're you there's nothing there, only to say that there was something there that we missed.
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  Never a word, nothing positive.
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  Since we've been here in Iran almost a month, nothing positive, but the moment, Heather, the moment they found out that two of our military men were shot down by the Iranians, they immediately pounced on it and said, Oh my gosh, there you go.
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  We told you, we thought that they said that they control the skies in Iran.
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  And I'm thinking, well, them shooting them down has nothing to do with them controlling the skies.
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  They shot them down using these hand grenades or hand machinery, things that they carry on their shoulders.
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  But no one wanted to explain that.
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  And you even have some folks in MAGO, oh my God, clutching their pearls.
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  Oh my god, look at this.
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  Oh, I I can't believe that's what Trump told us.
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  I'm like, wait a minute, hold on.
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  They don't have a Navy, they don't have an Air Force.
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  We decimated it, but they still have the machinery that they can carry around to shoot down our planes, which is what they did, and thankfully, we were able to retrieve our soldiers.
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  But the media made it, or they're making it seem as if though, oh, you see, we told you this is just gonna, this is not going to end well.
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  This is horrible.
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  Oh my god, this looks bad, this looks bad, putting fear in everyone in the minds of everyone.
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  And shame on Republicans, shame on MAGA who consistently allowed the media to drag them down this endless rabbit hole when things don't go right, you got MAGA immediately throwing up their arms.
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  Oh my god, what is this?
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  And why are we there?
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  And what is going on?
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  And this is not, I'm thinking, settle Dale.
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  You're panickings.
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  Oh, and this is not what I voted for.
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  This is not putting America first.
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  So you would rather another decade to go by with Iran threatening us.
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  I mean, people just don't understand geopolitics.
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  And then they come out, they're they're these like they claim to be these experts, but war experts.
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  Well, you know, this is what should happen.
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  And I'm like, shut up.
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  Shut up, you panickings.
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  I'm serious, Heather.
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  It's I mean, it's I am sick of it.
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  I'm like, shut up.
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  What is the word you're using, Rob?
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  Panickins.
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  Panicans.
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  Well, that's something that I think Trump had come up with uh earlier on this year.
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  They're panickings, they're always that's funny.
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  Well, they do like to freak out.
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  They do like to freak out whether, you know.
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  Think about it.
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  Not to say there was nothing to be concerned about, because I don't go that far either.
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  But look what they did with COVID, look what they did with global warming, look what they do with uh I I mean, you know, but Heather, but these are these are these are Republicans.
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  We we already know the Democrats are gonna do it.
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  But when you have Republicans who become panickings, I mean, I look at the Jeffrey Epstein files.
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  Now, to me, and in my humble opinion, I mean, we know that Pam Bundy was got fired uh last week because you know a lot of people say that she stumbled with the the Jeffrey Epstein files.
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  You know, I kind of agree, but in my humble opinion, and my humble opinion, Jeffrey Epstein files.
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  I never made that top of mind.
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  That was never like one of my main things I wanted to have resolved.
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  Now, a lot of people were mad because she said, Oh, I saw this and we're gonna do this, and and they clutch to their pearls.
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  We want to know who's in it, we want to know, and there's some people, whenever the left bring this up, just like clockwork, we got the panickins on the Republican side going down that rabbit hole, marching in.
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  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  What's the end I'm thinking, folks?
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  Wake up.
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  It's a diversion, and they're able to use that to get you to follow them.
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  And I'm like, what are we gonna wake up?
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  The same thing with Charlie Kirk.
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  And I know I'm not gonna talk about Charlie Kerr, because I want to talk about the two soldiers.
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  You know, now they're saying that Tyler Robinson, he's not the gunman, because we're looking at the fragments, and the fragments and uh Charlie Kirk's body does not match the bullet.
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  And there you go again with the panicists.
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  Oh, we knew it, we know it.
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  He's not the gunman.
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  I'm like, will you please shut the freaking freak up?
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  I'm like, now you guys are gun experts.
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  We go through this every time someone is killed or shot with the bullet, the bullet enters a body, it hits the bone, and then the bullet breaks up into fragments.
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  So of course that's not gonna match the bullet because it's been broken up, but then you've got people saying, oh no, it's not him, it's Israel, the Jews, they did it.
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  Oh no, and I'm thinking, oh my god, are you guys that dumb?
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  I'm like, seriously.
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  If you don't know what you're talking about, shut up.
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  But they can easily they can very easily, Heather, go online, do your research, do your research.
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  When the when when this guy's attorney, Tyler Robinson's attorney came out and said, Well, we're gonna try to say that we don't want this, we want the case dismissed because the bullet fragments don't match the bullet that they claim that Tyler used, and we and I'm thinking that happens all the time with any whenever a gun is involved.
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  No, it doesn't get as much attention as this has gotten.
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  And we know why.
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  But because you have those panickers that are out there that want to bind to conspiracy theories, they will jump on anything.
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  So now they're saying, oh, we knew it.
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  He's not the shooter, it's someone else.
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  Well, who is the someone else?
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  Oh, well, we think Israel might be behind it, and we know that Charlie Kirk was talking, and Charlie Kirk this and Charlie Kirk, I'm like, who you people, please?
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  At some point, MAGA, Republicans have got to pull it together.
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  I was listening to uh this guy, Brian Stroka, I think that's his name.
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  Brandon Stracker.
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  Brandon Strach.
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  He was speaking at CPAC this weekend, and he was talking about the schism that's in the Republican Party with Tucker Carlson, Megan uh Kelly, and you know, uh uh what is the guy, Levin and how people just mark the band, they're just attacking each other.
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  Everybody's trying to, you know, get into their own Candace Owens, they're trying to get into their own little corners.
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  And it's like right.
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  It's like we're all one party and we want to win the midterm.
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  Why are we coming out with all of this?
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  You know, well, this this I got the answer.
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  You don't have the answer.
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  It's insane.
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  And I called this earlier this year.
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  I said that all of these individuals want to be deal makers.
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  They want to be able to say, this is a candidate we want you to vote for, get behind this candidate.
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  They want to be able to say that, hey, we control the party because Trump will be rolling off the scene pretty soon.
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  So they want to be able to grab the mantle and say, I control the party, as opposed to saying, look, we have a difference of opinion, but we're not gonna tear each other down with that difference of opinion.
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  Let the left do that, and the left just sicks back sits back, they don't have a message.
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  Their party is completely, you know, and shambles, but we're helping them out by being in shambles ourselves.
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  So going back to what I want to talk about when I see this with the soldiers, and how when they were shot down, and how Republicans were just in a tizzy, like, oh my god, this just doesn't look right, and I don't know what Trump is doing, and this isn't America first.
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  And I'm thinking, but if you were to stop and listen, and you look at what he's doing, there will be no American first if we don't have a country.
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  China was already in our backyard making deals in South America and Central America.
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  They were already trying to go into Cuba.
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  Are you guys not watching this?
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  Did you not see it?
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  Well, I want the jobs.
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  Look at the thing, the positive things that Trump has done, and they're not talking about.
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  You look at no uh
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  Tax on when you're working overtime.
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  You look at the Trump medicine, bringing down the cost of medicine.
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  You look at the Trump accounts for children to create generational wealth.
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  You look at what they're doing with Maha, all these positive things that are taking place.
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  You look at all the investments that are coming into the country.
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  Is anyone talking about that?
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  No.
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  They're not talking about it.
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  They're, oh, well, we want to make America great again.
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  We want gas prices.
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  Gas prices just went up only recently.
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  Okay, with this war.
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  Before then, gas prices were down.
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  Well, I want the price of food to go down.
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  That is a reason why Trump has different countries investing in the country.
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  It doesn't happen overnight.
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  But the things that have taken place, you should be talking about those things.
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  So when you come to me and you say, oh, well, this is not making America great again.
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  This is not putting America first.
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  I'm like, you're being disingenuous because you can't even talk about the accomplishments that Trump has done and what he's doing now.
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  He's trying to isolate China so that China can't go in and control the oil in Venezuela.
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  He's trying to make certain that these countries that are overseas cannot control what's happening in the Western Hemisphere.
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  We should all want that.
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  We should all want to be able to control our destiny.
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  That is the reason why we're the largest producer of gas and oil.
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  It's like, folks, wake up.
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  You have to realize what he's doing.
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  Understand geopolitical politics.
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  You can't say, well, I just want us, I don't care about anyone else.
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  I get it.
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  I understand it.
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  I don't want troops on the ground in Iran, but I trust this president with what he's doing.
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  Because if he wasn't doing what he's doing, that he's been talking about this, Heather, for some 40 years.
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  If he wasn't doing it, we wouldn't have a country.
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  You look around us now.
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  You look at the all of these illegals that have come into our country that are getting precedent over Americans.
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  It's like people, relax.
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  Trust the process.
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  You can verify, you can question it, but don't lose yourself that you don't get out, get up your hiney hoe and go vote when it's time to vote.
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  So what I would say to all of those who were freaking out when they learned that these soldiers, their plane was attacked, and saying, Oh my God, I don't understand it.
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  And now we see that they've been found.
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  I would say to these panickers, sit down, shut up, and trust the process.
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  Because you're overreacting.
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  I know that my intro was rather long, but I've been waiting to say this, Heather, all weekend.
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  What is your response?
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  Well, I mean, we had an interesting uh Easter Passover weekend.
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  Um, I am hoping, Rob, that uh what our president um what he he didn't tweet it, he truthed it.
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  Um, I mean, it was very sensational.
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  Yeah, I didn't love the vulgarity, but if there were ever a situation that I guess calls for it, it's it's this because well, let's just say he's not Churchill, but let's hope he's got Churchill's backbone because I hope he does away, you know, with this regime.
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  I I I think that we've we've started down this path, and the time, you know, to continue is now, not blindly or wildly.
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  I mean, look, if the other side would really unconditionally surrender and absolutely change its ways, uh, you know, and one way they could signal that is by accepting Israel.
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  Um, something dramatic like that and an unconditional surrender, I'd be delighted, and the world could move, take a giant step forward.
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  But short of something like that.
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  I I, you know, I believe that we've taken the step here of stopping a murderous um fanatical regime that's been a threat to the world for the past 50 years.
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  And I don't think that stopping short is the answer.
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  Um I, of course, uh, you know, I always grieve for any civilian life lost, and I hope and pray that we can our side can be as as careful and accurate as possible while getting rid of the regime.
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  Um, you know, I interviewed a great source of mine uh last week for national review.
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  Um, his name is Mithal Al-Alusi.
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  I've spoken about him before.
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  He was a uh an Iraqi parliamentarian for three terms, and he um his two sons were murdered by terrorists uh because he took the firm stand of uh normalizing relations, he wanted to normalize between Iraq and Israel.
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  He's a real an Arab Muslim, true moderate, progressive guy.
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  And yeah, I asked him about all of this, and he just said that that you know, President Trump is he's in the right, that to start trying to make a deal with the regime at this point, would have been like trying to make a deal with Hitler during the dying days of the Third Reich.
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  Whether he's whether they're going down this week or next month or six months from now, I mean, there's no question this regime can go down.
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  And it's just a matter of time.
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  And really, we've committed to this course at this point.
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  I mean, I I don't agree with I mean I I think the people who say that Iran was not a threat are being intellectually dishonest.
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  Um, we all know they were a threat.
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  They were killing and torturing and abducting, taking hostage Americans since 1979.
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  So essentially the people who were against this, what they were for was continuing a kind of uh war of attrition in which a few hundred or a few thousand Americans every decade, let's say, are kidnapped, tortured, killed, and that's a best case scenario.
• 16:32
  I mean, you know, you're not talking about if if they attain nuclear capability, they get stronger with their missile capacity, they continue to arm these proxies, Hezbollah, Hamas, terrorists all over the world to continue tormenting Americans and Israelis and you know, Christians, Jews, other free people.
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  I mean, that's a best case scenario that that that continues, okay.
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  That's if they don't somehow don't get nukes in the next several years.
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  So essentially the people who were against this, that's what they were.
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  If they were honest, that's what they would be arguing for.
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  They would be saying it's not worth a war.
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  It's going to be too messy and cost too much.
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  And, you know, in terms of life, whatever, you know, whether they're concerned about American lives or they're concerned about the lives of the enemy, you know, whatever it is, they don't think that the future American and other lives who will be spared and the whole torment of the free people around the world sparing us from the torment of this belligerent vicious regime is worth the cost.
• 17:39
  I mean, that's what they should be arguing.
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  They should say, you know, and I mean, honestly, I think an argument could have been made for that.
• 17:45
  Um, that's what the Israelis call cutting the grass, which, you know, the the anti-Israel people object to that, you know, is insensitive, like we're supposed to be so inset so sensitive about people who want to kill us.
• 17:59
  But essentially what that means is it's like you're treating the terrorists and their infrastructures and their networks as something that you have to prune back every so often to coexist, to continue your existence.
• 18:15
  You're kind of in a con a state of continuous low-grade war.
• 18:19
  Um it's kind of like the difference between curing a disease or trying to cure it and just managing a chronic health condition.
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  So essentially, these people who were against this, it seems to me that what they were what they really would argue for if they were honest, they wouldn't pretend Iran was no threat, because that's just bullshit, excuse me.
• 18:40
  But what the Megan Kellys and the Tucker Carlsons, if they were more honest would be arguing for, would be to say, let's just keep things as they are, keep monitoring them to prevent them from getting nukes, let them continue their terrorism against Israelis and Americans around the world.
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  You know, that's what we've been doing since 1979.
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  So let's just be honest with you, I'm we're up against time.
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  I'll say this, and then we'll continue on the other half.
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  I'm tired of it.
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  It's time that we took out that threat.
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  I just want to go back over something that mentioned Trump's truth posting that he posted this past Sunday.
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  And he said Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day, all wrapped up in one in Iran.
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  There will be nothing like it.
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  Open the thing straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell.
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  Just watch.
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  Praise be to Allah, President Donald J.
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  Trump.
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  I'm surprised he didn't say thank you for attention to this matter.
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  And it had a lot of people wondering, did he actually, you know, put this on social media?
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  And as I've said, because there are a lot of people on our side that are clutching their pearls and they're saying, oh my God, this is so disrespectful.
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  And on Easter, and I can't believe this.
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  And oh my and I'm thinking, oh my God, here we go again.
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  As I said when I opened up, you know, people take it down a notch.
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  I didn't vote for priest, a reverend minister, bishop, a rabbi, whatever you want to call it, clerk.
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  I voted for man to be the president to get the F and job done.
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  Okay.
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  I'm just gonna be blunt also to get the F and job done.
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  I want to eradicate this threat that has been hovering over us for the past four decades.
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  I'm sick and tired of it.
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  And I want to go back to what I was saying during the first block.
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  At some point, okay.
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  We've got to realize that this is putting America first and make America great again.
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  We've got to get out all of the threats.
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  Because if there were any other president in his shoes, we would be bowing down to Iran.
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  Barack Obama doesn't care about America.
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  Remember, he was giving way so much to China.
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  Uh Joe Biden said that China wasn't a threat to us.
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  I mean, we've got to wake up and realize what Trump is doing.
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  And if you don't see it, just sit back and be quiet while the rest of us watch this.
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  No, I'm not saying don't criticize, I'm not saying that, but don't lose yourself.
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  This was a threat that we that has been like it's biting at our heels for four decades.
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  And Heather, it's unfortunate that a lot of people are completely unaware of this threat simply because it's not being taught in schools.
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  But shame on those individuals who know about this, who were living then and have known about this threat.
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  And then they're pretending, like you said, as if though, oh no, it's it's nothing.
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  There's nothing just there, they're not a threat.
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  And as you said, Rob, more recently, people, I mean, so many there have been so many Christians murdered in Israel while they were visiting, um, studying at Hebrew University.
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  Taylor Force was a Marine uh on vacation there, touring who was stabbed in the heart by a Palestinian terrorist some years ago.
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  I met his parents.
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  Um I mean, but there have been dozens of Americans and so many people from Europe and and the Philippines and Thailand just recently captured by Hamas and murdered uh or captured and tortured and released.
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  I mean, we all saw that.
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  We saw Hamas bragging about it.
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  I mean, who does who do people think was funding Hamas?
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  It's Iran, it's the regime.
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  So in our time, Americans have been uh kidnapped, abused, and murdered by Iran.
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  And all, you know, our troops, our service members, you know, so many of them killed, dismembered, blinded by these roadside bombs, IEDs in Iraq.
• 25:06
  Well, I mean, it's all come out, and Trump has talked about this many times that Iran provided the weaponry and the funding for those roadside bombs and the idea for them came from Qasim Sulamani.
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  They called him the butcher.
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  He was the terrorist, the head terrorist in Iran, who can't.
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  And Heather, let me just interject something.
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  And we just found out that he had his nieces living here in America, and Marco Rubio just rejected or decline their passport, and now we're gonna send them back overseas.
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  And I would say we need to do it with all great haste.
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  Because if we don't, they will get this, they'll take it to court, and you have some activist judge saying, Oh, you can't deport them, and you can't, you can't this, and you can't that.
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  I'm thinking, oh my God, let's hurry up and get them out of here.
• 25:55
  And and we also found out that while Iran chants death to America, it's ruling elite, the man that we've taken out.
• 26:04
  Their children have been teaching here in American universities.
• 26:08
  Yeah.
• 26:09
  I mean, how backwards is that?
• 26:12
  They're shouting death to America, and then you have Americans that are here that are saying, Oh, that's okay.
• 26:17
  Let them teach us about our top schools.
• 26:19
  I mean, this just goes back to, you know, with the whole birthright citizenship that's going before the Supreme Courts.
• 26:25
  And if the courts get that wrong, shame on them.
• 26:31
  Shame on them.
• 26:32
  You should not be allowed to come here if you're not a citizen and have a baby, then that kid becomes an American citizen, and then you get the kid, take the kid to another country, the kid is raised somewhere else with their values.
• 26:45
  Then once a kid becomes of age, that kid returns here and can run for the president.
• 26:51
  I mean, does it make any sense?
• 26:53
  This is what we're up against, and this is what Trump is trying to do.
• 26:56
  That's part of making America great again.
• 27:00
  There are so many things that we have got to straighten up.
• 27:04
  We've got to correct, and he's a person who can do it and do it now.
• 27:08
  Otherwise, it's not going to get done.
• 27:11
  So I would say again to my fellow Republicans, MAGAs, GOP, Paticans, please take a seat.
• 27:19
  And just be quiet and understand.
• 27:21
  Understand what's happening.
• 27:22
  Yes, I know you have an opinion.
• 27:24
  I know this is America, but you don't want to F it up for us, okay?
• 27:28
  You don't want to.
• 27:29
  There's just too much at stake here.
• 27:32
  I mean, we're we're we're waking up, but we're seeing that our country has been overtaken by illegal aliens.
• 27:37
  We had on the show Simon Dean, and I just keep thinking about some of the things that he's said that you know, we got a problem.
• 27:45
  We have a huge problem here, and I don't think most people realize it.
• 27:51
  Anytime the media can come in and get you to get all tensed up and freaking out and seeing things their way, and you're supposed to be on our side.
• 28:01
  We've got a problem.
• 28:04
  And it's time to wake up.
• 28:06
  So, Heather, share with us more about the interview that you did.
• 28:08
  You said with the with the gentleman who lost two children.
• 28:11
  I remember you talked about that before.
• 28:13
  Yes.
• 28:14
  He he returned to Iraq after the U.S.
• 28:19
  liberation of Iraq.
• 28:20
  Uh, and and um he wanted to participate in building a modern democratic nation of Iraq, and there were Iraqis who wanted that.
• 28:31
  Uh, even though in the long run we know things didn't go as well as hoped.
• 28:37
  It's very complicated.
• 28:39
  And but his his message to me has been that Iran sabotaged the state of Iraq, uh, bribed the politicians there, has poured forward money into funding militias on both the Sunni and Shia sides of the insurgency, so-called insurgency.
• 28:58
  That the regime in Tehran undermined the American effort in Iraq from the start.
• 29:04
  And he managed this man, this amazing man, Mithal Al-Alusi is his name.
• 29:11
  He managed to um stay in Iraq.
• 29:14
  He wouldn't leave after his sons were murdered.
• 29:16
  It's a miracle, frankly, that he's survived because he's survived many assassination attempts because he's viewed as a threat to by really all the Islamists there.
• 29:26
  Somebody who stands up and says, let's be modern and normal and do away with this ancient this fanatical hatred of Israel and America, which is really for no real reason.
• 29:41
  It's just mania, and you know, we need to do business with these other countries.
• 29:46
  We need to move into the modern era.
• 29:49
  You know, he's a rational person and a humanitarian, and he just doesn't want to see his people, the Iraqi people, and his part of the world remain backward.
• 30:00
  Honestly, and he knows he's really way ahead of his time.
• 30:05
  And you know, he so because of this, because he speaks these these truths and he takes on the shibboliths and the taboos.
• 30:13
  People want to kill him in that part of the world.
• 30:15
  Some of the fanatics want to do away with him.
• 30:18
  And this has happened.
• 30:19
  He's been targeted many times, but he hasn't given up.
• 30:22
  And now he's in Kurdistan, which my understanding through him of the Kurd, the Kurdish people, including in Iraq, is that they're like the people who comparatively speaking have their, you know what, their stuff together more than uh many others there.
• 30:38
  I mean, they they're tend to be a peaceful people.
• 30:41
  They've been very abused.
• 30:43
  You'll recall Saddam Hussein gassed and chemical weapons, 50,000 of them, you know, his own people and cause genetic damage into the third generation of the Kurds.
• 30:54
  You know, they were they've they're a very abused minority.
• 30:57
  Um, in they were in Iraq, but they have fought back and they've they formed a very tough uh military called the Peshmerga, which some people compare to the IDF.
• 31:07
  They kind of make, you know, say that there are some similarities between the semi-autonomous region, region of Kurdistan and Israel, but it is part of Iraq, and they, you know, they have more tolerance for diverse views.
• 31:20
  They they are his protectors now.
• 31:23
  He lives in Irble, Kurdistan.
• 31:25
  Um, and he um, yeah, yeah, I mean, he I I called him to consult with him because he's such a good source and such a good man.
• 31:33
  Um, and he just, you know, he's he's hopeful that you know, most of the Iranian people are good people.
• 31:40
  He believes he thinks that they want and deserve uh a chance at self-governance, that they have been tyrannized by this extreme government, this crazy fanatical uh regime.
• 31:55
  I mean, this is what he says.
• 31:56
  I mean, how what portion of the Iranian people are, you know, are more um uh liberal minded in the in the classical sense, uh normal.
• 32:10
  Uh I don't know.
• 32:11
  You he says that the people who follow the regime in Iran are on the payroll, and that the way to effect regime change there is to cut the money train from he says that it it works both ways, just as the Iranian regime has been funding the Iraqi so-called insurgency all these years.
• 32:33
  Now you know, the Iraqi government has repaid the favor.
• 32:38
  They are mostly corrupt, according to Mithal.
• 32:42
  But many Iraqi parliament parliamentarians, his fellow parliamentarians have been bribed by Iran, he says.
• 32:48
  Former um Prime Minister Al-Maliki, Nurial Maliki was on the payroll of Iran, he tells me.
• 32:54
  Um, they tried to bribe him, Mithal.
• 32:57
  He said they offered him everything he could ever want if he would become anti-American and anti-Israel, and he wouldn't.
• 33:04
  Um, but you know, he tells me, and he's told me many things, Rob, that wound up bearing out and being proven, such as that Iran was on both sides of the Iraqi insurgency when he told me that it was as early as um, I think it was like back in 2008, something like that.
• 33:20
  And then it was eventually reported more broadly, you know, he's told me many, many things that that turned out to be true.
• 33:28
  And um, yeah, I mean, he's he believes the key is if if that he says all this money, huge money, billions of dollars is going from the uh sale of Iraqi oil into the government of Iran, that um corrupt Iraqi politicians and and Iraqi militias are transporting money into Iran, and that if President Trump and the US government can find a way to stop it, that will help starve the Iranian government and bring down this regime.
• 34:04
  He says that the regime, basically the inner core, the IRGC are like the SS were to the Nazis.
• 34:12
  A lot of them are, you know, they're fanatics, they get paid well, they're the inner circle, and but he he according to me thal that the army, uh, the Iranian army is not necessarily so fanatical.
• 34:26
  Those are the regular guys who may not even like the regime, but they get a paycheck.
• 34:31
  He said, if you can cut off the money going to the army, and people can't feed their families, that's the key.
• 34:40
  Then the army he believes will turn against the IRGC, and then you have the do we how did he say how do we do that?
• 34:50
  Because well, he thinks that through the U.S.
• 34:52
  Treasury Department and other um means that we have here in America, and this gets complicated.
• 34:58
  This gets into finance.
• 35:00
  Um, but that this is the key.
• 35:03
  He believes that in there have been sanctions passed already on Iraq's banks.
• 35:08
  But who are they banking with?
• 35:09
  We need to cut off the spigot so that they can't get it.
• 35:12
  He's saying starve out, you know, even though Iraq is his country, he says that so much of Iraq has become corrupt.
• 35:19
  You have to cut it off there, find ways to identify the money that's going from Iraq into Iran and use the American leverage America has over the Iraqi banks to cut off the regime that way.
• 35:35
  And he believes in Trump's, you know, President Trump's military campaign and what's going on.
• 35:39
  But sure enough, um, the Trump administration has already begun to do this.
• 35:44
  There have been efforts and steps taken, and this was in my article.
• 35:47
  I linked to some uh examples I found of the U.S.
• 35:50
  Treasury Department has begun to sanction Iraqi banks.
• 35:55
  And it's very I'm sure this is very complicated, you know, the finance trail, the money trail.
• 36:01
  But we need some smart, you know, money people and and top people to investigate um the money going uh that we're we're doing that we're you know, maybe maybe the answer is to stop buying Iraqi oil.
• 36:15
  I I don't know.
• 36:16
  It just maybe it would be great.
• 36:18
  I wish we would there were modified.
• 36:20
  I wish we could do it because I mean I as I mentioned uh earlier on.
• 36:25
  Our campaign, military campaign has been successful.
• 36:28
  Like we just bombed them to Waizu.
• 36:31
  And I don't know what's left to bomb, as Trump said, but to the next 48 hours, we're gonna go up to the bridges and all this other stuff.
• 36:37
  Let's just do it.
• 36:38
  I mean, uh got to stop pussy putting around with them.
• 36:42
  Because even if we said on our show last week, is this like a gamble, a deal with the devil?
• 36:48
  They they keep pushing it out.
• 36:50
  Okay, we want to, we're not going to.
• 36:51
  Who are these people?
• 36:53
  Go ahead, just bomb them.
• 36:54
  Whenever we uh identify who's leading them, Israel comes in and bombs them, gets rid of them, but then there's some more.
• 37:01
  We've got to somehow find that main artery.
• 37:04
  And well, you know, Mithal thinks the secret is that the key is to get that this week everybody's waiting for the people to overthrow the regime.
• 37:14
  But as he points out, and I've I had to observe the same thing, Rob.
• 37:18
  I mean, these people have been incredibly courageous, these young people who've come out and essentially been slaughtered and tortured.
• 37:26
  But you're still talking about a tiny percent of the population that's that heroic.
• 37:30
  It's not, I mean, the Iranians are no different than any other people.
• 37:33
  There are going to be heroes among them, but most people aren't gonna, if there's no chance of victory, they're not gonna just get gunned, you know, allow them to be.
• 37:42
  Yeah, to be gone by a firing squad.
• 37:44
  I mean, his point is that you got a real chance of regime change coming from the Iraqi army, but you have to support the Iraqi army and identify the people who don't like the regime because the army has weapons as well.
• 37:58
  They can fight the IRGC, they can't.
• 38:00
  And you mean the Iran support the Iranian army, the Iranian army, right?
• 38:04
  He's saying that there are people in the Iranian army who he believes would be happy to be.
• 38:10
  Well, we need to turn it right.
• 38:13
  We need to find them.
• 38:14
  He thinks it's gonna be hard to do that without controlling this flow of money because there's so much money going to the IRGC into the um, you know, the city.
• 38:24
  Does he think also that let me ask you this, and then we'll go to commercial break.
• 38:27
  I want to get to see if we mentioned having troops on the ground, but we'll get that on the other side of the break.
• 38:33
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• 40:22
  Just want to just again bringing everything full circle when we open up the show, talking about our two military soldiers who were found, thank God.
• 40:33
  Iran did not capture them, albeit I do believe that many on the left would have preferred if Iran had captured one of our soldiers so that they could use that against Trump even before the second soldier was found.
• 40:51
  You had Abby Phillips from CNN coming out score-rating Trump.
• 40:55
  Say that Trump made a bad decision, and is this what you voted for?
• 40:58
  They always come out with, is this what you voted for?
• 41:01
  Ask him mega discs.
• 41:02
  Is this what you voted for?
• 41:04
  Well, I'm gonna tell you once and for all, hell yeah, that's what I voted for.
• 41:09
  This is what I voted for, so that we could get this country back together.
• 41:15
  And no one said that it's gonna be easy.
• 41:20
  Nothing is ever easy.
• 41:22
  The price of freedom isn't easy.
• 41:24
  But we've got to get there.
• 41:26
  And people have got to stop being so afraid.
• 41:30
  Clutching the pearls every time Trump does something that they don't understand.
• 41:35
  Is it though he should sit there and listen directly to them is if though they're the experts in war.
• 41:40
  They're the experts in negotiations.
• 41:44
  I even heard people say, well, you know, Trump said that he's an expert negotiator.
• 41:48
  Well, why can't he negotiate and not go to war?
• 41:50
  It's like maybe that's part of the negotiation.
• 41:52
  Just like, are you serious?
• 41:53
  Please come on.
• 41:56
  When I hear people on the right taking up some of the talking points from the left, I'm like, shame on you.
• 42:05
  Shame on you.
• 42:07
  No, I've said I don't want troops on the ground.
• 42:10
  You know, but if it takes that, I mean, I'll begrudgingly say I don't want troops on the ground.
• 42:14
  I still don't want it.
• 42:16
  But if that's gonna make America safer and better, make us put America first, then so be it.
• 42:23
  But I'll put a prayer behind it.
• 42:28
  But I'm not gonna just like throw my arms up and say, Oh, I don't support Trump anymore.
• 42:33
  And make it so difficult that we can't win the midterm.
• 42:39
  There's so many moving pieces out there, and that is a reason why we have a party that we can ask questions.
• 42:46
  But sometimes I think that we let it get in the way, and then we won't go on, we won't vote, and then we'll get sit back and go, well, you see, had Trump, listen to me.
• 42:53
  I'm like, come on.
• 42:55
  The man is doing his darnest.
• 42:58
  How do I know it?
• 42:59
  Because everything that he's doing and saying now, he said the exact same thing 40 years ago.
• 43:04
  Some of you should go and do the research.
• 43:06
  He didn't just make this up.
• 43:09
  So those of you who are saying, oh, we think Israel, he they're dragging Trump into this.
• 43:13
  No, they're not.
• 43:15
  Trump has been saying this for the past 40 years.
• 43:18
  And if anyone who wants Trump to continue along these lines, is to gulp state countries, especially the crown prince of Saudi Arabia.
• 43:28
  He even came out and said that all the money the Saudi Arabia that Iran was given, they use that to attack them.
• 43:35
  They used it to fund terrorist organizations.
• 43:38
  Why isn't anyone talking about that?
• 43:40
  Why isn't anyone saying, oh wow, it's the Saws, they're the ones who are pulling Trump this way.
• 43:45
  And many of you have have forgotten that when Trump came into office both terms, 2016 and this time, what did he go?
• 43:52
  He went to the Gulf states, forming a coalition because he knew what had to be done.
• 43:57
  He knew what he was going to do.
• 43:58
  But many of you can't see beyond MAGA, can't see what actually does MAGA consist of what is MAGA all about making America great again.
• 44:08
  How do you get there?
• 44:09
  You just can't see it and think that you're automatically there.
• 44:13
  There's some work that has to be done.
• 44:15
  So I would encourage all of you to go do your research, study, stop listening to these talking heads that are trying to separate us and divide us.
• 44:25
  That want you to listen to what they have to say.
• 44:28
  The blueprint is there.
• 44:30
  Look at what Trump did when he came into office.
• 44:32
  He went to the Gulf States.
• 44:33
  Why did he go there?
• 44:34
  Why is why was he chumming up to them?
• 44:36
  He didn't go to Europe because he knew that he can't count on them.
• 44:39
  They're weak.
• 44:41
  They're feckless.
• 44:45
  Wake up.
• 44:46
  Look, watch.
• 44:47
  Stop clutching your pearls and freaking out.
• 44:51
  Grow a pair.
• 44:52
  Come on.
• 44:55
  I want to go back to you.
• 44:57
  Talk about the story that you did with this gentleman, Aloisi.
• 45:00
  It seems as if though he gave you a lot of information.
• 45:02
  Did you did he ever say anything about troops being on the ground?
• 45:06
  I know that cutting off the money spigot, that's huge.
• 45:09
  And we do need to do that.
• 45:10
  That that never I never thought about that, that Iraq was part of giving the money.
• 45:16
  And you guys have also realized that Iran at one point, they were in a like a 12-year war with Iraq, trying to take Iraq over.
• 45:23
  See, these are this is just history that a lot of people don't know about.
• 45:28
  Geopolitics.
• 45:29
  And I would encourage you all to do your research so that you can understand what's at play here and what's actually happening.
• 45:40
  Understand the straight of Hermoods.
• 45:42
  I was watching this one thing on uh on social media.
• 45:45
  This guy was talking to, I think she was uh she was Middle Eastern, and he was saying, Well, you know, why do you think this is happening in a straight of moose?
• 45:54
  Do you think that this is a happening because they don't want the gays to be in Hamoods?
• 45:57
  And she said, Yeah, that's it.
• 45:59
  I'm thinking, oh my gosh, she doesn't even understand, doesn't even know what the straight Hamoots is.
• 46:06
  She's thinking that it has to do with gender.
• 46:08
  But this is what happens when people don't do their research.
• 46:12
  So it's it's crazy, Heather.
• 46:14
  So Heather, so again, did he say anything about did he have a comments about troops being on the ground?
• 46:20
  You know, honestly, right?
• 46:21
  I I really I didn't even ask him that.
• 46:23
  I I focused most of my questions on what is happening now and what his ideas are for what advice he would give President Trump.
• 46:34
  And this is what he volunteered.
• 46:36
  He didn't say anything one way or the other about troops on the ground.
• 46:40
  He seemed, I and I I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I mean he he didn't mention that.
• 46:47
  And so I think it's it's I sort of inferred, and I guess I I could go back and ask him, but I inferred that he seemed to believe that if that if the United States could get a handle on this money that's going into Iran from Iraq, that if we could use our leverage with Iraq to essentially stop them from circumventing the sanctions against Iran, that that combined with the current military effort could bring down this regime, finally.
• 47:33
  Right, but he's saying that he believes that there is a critical mass of people in Iran who want better, and that they need to be empowered, and that the key is the Iranian army, not the IRGC, the army, because that's the ordinary people, and they're not.
• 47:53
  Okay, not the RGC.
• 47:55
  Okay.
• 47:56
  But you know, if you think about it, I mean, we all we say rise up and the people should rise up, but the think about it, you know.
• 48:04
  I mean, here you have a vicious regime or what's left of it.
• 48:08
  You have thousands of highly trained brutes with heavy weaponry, and on the other side of the ledger, you have a completely unarmed civilian population.
• 48:23
  I mean, if you think about revolutions in history, okay, there aren't too many revolutions that I can think of where people rose up who were unarmed and beat an army.
• 48:34
  I mean, the reality is whether it's the American Revolution, the French Revolution, which happened when people were starving to death, and they yeah, they I mean they took over.
• 48:45
  But I think they had weapons, but they were, I mean, but then you know the Russian revolution that it was armed groups.
• 48:51
  I mean, this is the thing.
• 48:53
  I mean, our wonderful um, you know, peace-loving people of America, and I I'm my heart is along with them.
• 49:02
  I don't like, I don't, I don't like guns, but I understand the reason we have a second amendment.
• 49:09
  Unarmed civilian populations can't win against armies.
• 49:14
  So to ask the people to, I mean, it it just isn't a realistic proposition for the the I for unarmed civilian students to take over the IRGC, you know.
• 49:26
  I mean, I guess unless the whole thing comes collapsing down and there's an unconventional surrender, which I guess maybe is what the U.S.
• 49:34
  is hoping for, but failing that, his point is if you want to turn the tide and you want the people to rise up, you you know, you're gonna need the pe the people with the army behind the or you know, more accurately, the army in front of them.
• 49:50
  You know, you need the army of Iran to you know fight this out, like with the what remains of the regime.
• 49:59
  That's what he
• 50:00
  Was saying to me is that that you know there has to be an armed opposition to the regime if you want the people to take over the country, and the best way he thinks to do that is to one of the ways is to starve the regime, because the regime's got the army on its payroll.
• 50:20
  And his point is that once the checks dry up and people don't have enough food to feed their families, and that includes the army guys, that's when you'll see the army move, he's saying against the regime.
• 50:34
  Right.
• 50:34
  Yeah, but I I just want this to just like everyone else, I want it to be over with as soon as possible.
• 50:42
  It seems as though we've been in it for quite some time, but we have it.
• 50:44
  It's only been a month.
• 50:46
  And I but I do believe that we're making the right steps to and and we're doing the right thing.
• 50:55
  And I think that and believe that the media, the way they report on this, it does have people, you know, feeling antsy and afraid.
• 51:06
  And war is it it's an emotional thing because we when you go to war, you know that there's a possibility that there will be death.
• 51:14
  But in military, you have to that comes with the territory, unfortunately.
• 51:20
  It comes with the territory.
• 51:22
  And as I've said to our listeners before, we've had on guest Colonel Julie Hall, and she's explained to us, you know, what the military is and and and what they do.
• 51:31
  I don't think a lot of people understand it.
• 51:34
  Uh definitely didn't understand it under the Biden regime.
• 51:37
  It's like the military was like a social club.
• 51:40
  That's not it at all.
• 51:42
  And that is not it.
• 51:43
  When you're called to serve and when you go out, there's always that possibility that there will be deaths.
• 51:51
  Lives will be lost.
• 51:53
  Fortunately for us with this administration, uh, there's only been, like, like I said, uh, or the boys and girls who died earlier on because of an accident with their uh plane.
• 52:06
  But so far, none have been on the battlefield killed because of Iranians.
• 52:11
  And hopefully that will persist.
• 52:13
  That will be the case.
• 52:15
  Uh, and when we lost those two soldiers who whose planes were shot down, I many people just it took them.
• 52:22
  There was like a shock, a jolt with oh my god, you know, what's gonna happen?
• 52:25
  Oh no, oh no.
• 52:27
  And there's a lot of overreaction.
• 52:29
  And it was because of the media on the left that started to feed this narrative that you know you're messing up, and you know, this is it.
• 52:39
  You know, we told you this is what you voted for.
• 52:41
  Oh my, you see that?
• 52:42
  This is what you voted for, and we thought Trump was going to be making America great again.
• 52:46
  And I'm like, folks, come on, listen, look at who's telling you this.
• 52:49
  They don't care about Trump making America great again, but they are quick to pounce on something on the negative to get you all riled up so that you'll think that, oh, we're making a mistake, and I can't believe this, and I didn't vote for this, and I want Trump to do this, and Trump, he's not listening to me and Trump.
• 53:05
  It's like just settle down.
• 53:08
  Settle down because the media is doing what they do best and trying to divide us.
• 53:14
  They did this with the Epstein files, they tried to divide us with all Trump said he was going to do this, and people just went nuts, and then I came back and they said, But wait a minute, if you guys are so concerned about pedophiles and children being mistreated, what about those children that Biden lost?
• 53:30
  Why aren't we talking about that?
• 53:32
  We can do something about that.
• 53:34
  That Tom Holman found, why aren't you guys talking about that?
• 53:38
  Why aren't you guys demanding justice for those children?
• 53:42
  And it's like we we get all bobbled up and and we get lost in this narrative that the fake news create, and then we say that oh no, we're smart, and it's like, no, but you're following them down that rabbit hole.
• 53:56
  Stop going down that rabbit hole.
• 53:59
  Stop and say, wait a minute, what are they trying to do here?
• 54:04
  Right, I voted for Trump, and you just can't say it just to be saying it.
• 54:07
  I mean, are you serious when you say you voted for him?
• 54:10
  Are you serious in your heart of hearts?
• 54:11
  I voted for this man, I believe what he's doing, I trust him, as opposed to thinking that, oh no, Benjamin Netanyahu, he's dragging Trump into this war.
• 54:20
  It's like, what?
• 54:22
  I mean, come on.
• 54:24
  Well, I don't know, because he's he's telling Trump, it's like, stop.
• 54:28
  Well, the Jews, I'm like, stop.
• 54:31
  What about the stories from the crown prince who's saying, no, we want this?
• 54:37
  What about them calling out Iran and saying you need to stop?
• 54:42
  You don't hear them talking about that.
• 54:44
  What about calling out Europe and say, look, if you want the oil, you'll you better go get it.
• 54:50
  And then the moment we take it over, you'll have these people saying, Oh, well, that's not fair.
• 54:54
  We can't do that.
• 54:55
  Well, why not?
• 54:56
  We defended it, we own it, we take it.
• 54:59
  If Europe is gonna sit on the sidelines and do absolutely nothing, behave like the beta countries that they are weak, won't do anything, and then they always want us to come and protect them.
• 55:11
  No, it doesn't work that way.
• 55:13
  If you want the oil, you get out there and you protect the oil.
• 55:16
  We've already cleared the way for you.
• 55:18
  We've got we're getting rid of the threat because they were a threat to you.
• 55:22
  Think about this.
• 55:24
  Iran can very easily attack these European countries, not the US as much.
• 55:30
  So it's like you need to wake up.
• 55:32
  It's time to wake up and stand up.
• 55:36
  You guys want to be in NATO, you want the United States to be there and to protect you.
• 55:40
  But what are you giving to us?
• 55:41
  What have you done for us lately?
• 55:43
  I think that was a song by Janet Jackson back in the 80s.
• 55:46
  What have you done for me lately?
• 55:47
  So I want to say that to these European countries.
• 55:50
  What have you done for us lately?
• 55:53
  Besides bitch and moan that expect for us to write the checks.
• 55:57
  It doesn't work that way.
• 55:59
  It's got to stop working that way.
• 56:01
  So we know that the president of NATO is going to be meeting with Trump.
• 56:05
  Hopefully, he has something positive to say.
• 56:08
  But until such time, you guys need to wake up.
• 56:10
  And I would say to all my fellow Republicans and MAGA brothers and sisters and conservatives, sit tight, don't allow the media to take you down this endless rabbit hole of confusion.
• 56:21
  Don't allow it.
• 56:22
  Stand up.
• 56:24
  Trust Trump.
• 56:25
  This is what we voted for.
• 56:26
  He knows what he's doing.
• 56:29
  And let's just be cool.
• 56:31
  You've been listening to After Dark of the America Out Loud Talk Radio Network.
• 56:33
  My co-host tonight is Heather Robison, the contributor of the New York Post.
• 56:37
  We will put the article that she's talking about in the podcast right up when it drops, so that you all can go and read it.
• 56:44
  Because we always always end the show saying, God bless America, God's bless Israel.
• 56:47
  God bless our men and women in uniform.
• 56:50
  Until next time, good night for me blessed.
• 56:53
  Thank you.