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From EV Demand To Texas Swap Meets · In Wheel Time Podcast

• 0:07
  Don Armstrong: It is the award-winning Inwheel Time Car Talk Show.
• 0:11
  Don Armstrong: Richard Tomlin.
• 0:12
  Don Armstrong: Remember that name?
• 0:13
  Don Armstrong: I think from Apex Auto Works.
• 0:15
  Don Armstrong: Uh-huh.
• 0:16
  Don Armstrong: He's been found.
• 0:17
  Don Armstrong: And we catch up with him about the Pike's Peak Hill Climb in the 69 Roadrunner.
• 0:22
  Don Armstrong: Are you nuts?
• 0:24
  Don Armstrong: In Jeff's car culture, things we didn't know about the launch of the Model T Ford.
• 0:30
  Don Armstrong: And Mr.
• 0:30
  Don Armstrong: Mars has swap meets going to one in the top five United States.
• 0:36
  Don Armstrong: Depending on where the top five are.
• 0:52
  Don Armstrong: Thank you very much for joining us.
• 0:53
  Don Armstrong: It's turned out to be an absolutely gorgeous Saturday live show here.
• 0:58
  Don Armstrong: Rub it in.
• 0:58
  Don Armstrong: No, but I mean look at the sun.
• 1:00
  Don Armstrong: It is.
• 1:00
  Don Armstrong: It's nice.
• 1:01
  Don Armstrong: I cut the grass on Thursday just before it was.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_00: You are rubbing it in the rain.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:05
  Don Armstrong: And um, yeah, because you're going to do that today?
• 1:07
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, I cleaned the gutters this week and I washed the house this week.
• 1:11
  Jeff Dziekan: You?
• 1:12
  Jeff Dziekan: I did.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_04: I got some clothes that need to be washed.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_04: You got more time.
• 1:16
  Jeff Dziekan: Just bring them over.
• 1:17
  Jeff Dziekan: I'll take them down to the creek and beat them.
• 1:20
  Jeff Dziekan: Rock.
• 1:22
  Don Armstrong: Who is joining us?
• 1:23
  Don Armstrong: Did I hear somebody knocking on the door right here?
• 1:26
  Don Armstrong: Would that happen to be Richard Tomlin with Apex AutoWorks?
• 1:29
  Don Armstrong: Oh my God, it is.
• 1:30
  Don Armstrong: Richard, we thought that you had gone into another world.
• 1:34
  Don Armstrong: You look taller.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_04: Uh-oh.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_04: Uh-oh.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_04: Richard?
• 1:39
  Don Armstrong: Richard, have you muted your microphone, Richard?
• 1:42
  Don Armstrong: Because we can't hear a damn thing.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_04: Let me let me let me work with Richard here.
• 1:49
  Don Armstrong: You work with that.
• 1:51
  Don Armstrong: At any rate, so uh you did all of that?
• 1:53
  Don Armstrong: You did not do all of that.
• 1:54
  Don Armstrong: I did do all that.
• 1:56
  Jeff Dziekan: I did.
• 1:56
  Jeff Dziekan: I saw you land at Sugarland Wednesday.
• 1:58
  Jeff Dziekan: Did you, Sobby?
• 1:59
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, well, I heard and I got on the app and oh be darn.
• 2:03
  Jeff Dziekan: So I went out there and I was uh I mooned you.
• 2:06
  Jeff Dziekan: You know, kind of you know did all that.
• 2:07
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, I I didn't see that, thank goodness, but yes.
• 2:11
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 2:12
  Jeff Dziekan: No, but I saw you, I I heard you.
• 2:14
  Jeff Dziekan: I didn't actually see the bird coming in, but I heard you.
• 2:16
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, well, we we did.
• 2:18
  Jeff Dziekan: We landed out there for a brief while and uh got back up again.
• 2:22
  Don Armstrong: Anyway, figure fueling.
• 2:23
  Don Armstrong: Get into our fuel.
• 2:25
  Don Armstrong: Yep.
• 2:25
  Don Armstrong: And and get all that nice jet exhaust all over me, which you know, I walk into someplace and go, but yeah, it smells like jet exhaust.
• 2:35
  Don Armstrong: Well, it's kind of like you know, nitromethane exhaust.
• 2:38
  Don Armstrong: Add beans for lunch.
• 2:41
  Don Armstrong: Exactly.
• 2:42
  Don Armstrong: Oh my god.
• 2:44
  Don Armstrong: Well, um you know, I didn't do any headlines.
• 2:48
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh, you know what?
• 2:48
  Jeff Dziekan: I got something.
• 2:49
  Don Armstrong: No, no, no, no.
• 2:50
  Don Armstrong: I've got to get some headlines in because I've got so many and I want everybody to know.
• 2:54
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 2:55
  Don Armstrong: GM again has idled production at an electric vehicle plant in Detroit due to waning demand, less than three months after a mass layoff and reduction to a single shift.
• 3:04
  Don Armstrong: 1,300 workers remaining at Factory Zero, where were temporarily laid off March 16th.
• 3:11
  Don Armstrong: They're expected to return April 13th.
• 3:12
  Don Armstrong: According to the UAW, the plant was previously idled October 27th through November 24th before being cut to a single shift in January.
• 3:21
  Don Armstrong: Sorry.
• 3:22
  Don Armstrong: Blame Mary Berra.
• 3:24
  Don Armstrong: Oh boy.
• 3:27
  Don Armstrong: GM plans to introduce to the U.S.
• 3:29
  Don Armstrong: market a Buick sedan built on the same platform underpinning as the next generation Cadillac CT5 and the Chevy Camaro.
• 3:41
  Don Armstrong: Now, how do you do that?
• 3:42
  Don Armstrong: Is the Chevy Camaro going to grow to the size of a Sedan Deville?
• 3:46
  Don Armstrong: Those designers are doing a lot of drinking.
• 3:49
  Don Armstrong: Uh the car would be the first in North America for Buick, once known for luxurious sedans and coupes, since it discontinued the Regal in 2020.
• 3:56
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 3:57
  Don Armstrong: Buick's North American lineup now consists of the Enclave, the Encore GX, the Envision, and the Invista crossovers.
• 4:06
  Jeff Dziekan: The Envision's becoming uh more high-end as the years go by.
• 4:10
  Jeff Dziekan: The this year's model of the Envision, which I have, is a little bit more optioned.
• 4:15
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, so you beat them all to the punch.
• 4:17
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, I but you know you optioned it up.
• 4:19
  Jeff Dziekan: No, but they can.
• 4:20
  Jeff Dziekan: I haven't optioned by it.
• 4:21
  Jeff Dziekan: Mine just came standard and I love it.
• 4:23
  Don Armstrong: Well, I know, but it but it it's not the bottom of the barrel.
• 4:25
  Don Armstrong: Oh no, no, no, no.
• 4:26
  unknown: Okay.
• 4:27
  Don Armstrong: Well, shall we try it?
• 4:29
  Don Armstrong: Richard.
• 4:30
  Don Armstrong: Richard, do we have you now?
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_04: Richard.
• 4:35
  Don Armstrong: Mars, well, I'm gonna turn you down.
• 4:39
  Don Armstrong: So I'm just gonna continue on with the news of the day until you're not sure why we can't hear it.
• 4:44
  Don Armstrong: Wave at us and let us know when you got him.
• 4:47
  Don Armstrong: Um production of the next generation CT5 and Camaro expected to begin in Lansing in the fall of next year.
• 4:54
  Don Armstrong: Uh GM expects to produce 60 to 70,000 CT5 and Camaro vehicles annually at the plant according to the source.
• 5:00
  Jeff Dziekan: So it's going to be built in the Michigan.
• 5:02
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, Lansing.
• 5:04
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh, yeah, capital.
• 5:05
  Don Armstrong: Where is uh where is Lansing?
• 5:07
  Don Armstrong: Lansing in Detroit.
• 5:08
  Don Armstrong: Uh in the middle of the state?
• 5:09
  Jeff Dziekan: A couple hours away, maybe.
• 5:11
  Jeff Dziekan: North?
• 5:11
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, northwest.
• 5:12
  Jeff Dziekan: Okay.
• 5:15
  Don Armstrong: Big college town.
• 5:16
  Don Armstrong: Um in the past, platforms were largely defined by body styles and engine layouts.
• 5:21
  Don Armstrong: Today, digital functions and software are at the core of everything we do.
• 5:27
  Don Armstrong: That according to the BMW folks.
• 5:31
  Don Armstrong: Uh the comments highlight the scale of transformation underway at BMW as Legacy Automakers' race to keep pace with Tesla and a new wave of Chinese electric vehicle manufacturers that have prioritized software and rapid development cycles.
• 5:45
  Don Armstrong: BMW rolling out its new class program, the automaker's next generation vehicle architecture, and on March 18th unveiled the i3, a new class-based version of its Core 3 series.
• 5:59
  Don Armstrong: The I3, which starts production in August at BMW's Munich factory, is the second model on the new class platform after the IX3 SUV.
• 6:10
  Don Armstrong: Here they come.
• 6:11
  Don Armstrong: But I guess that the the the point to make there is the fact that all of the cars now are computer assisted.
• 6:20
  Don Armstrong: Remember, back in the day it was the clay models.
• 6:24
  Don Armstrong: And the clay models gosh, I miss those days when they, you know, hey, uh the uh Houston Auto Show is gonna have five brand new concept vehicles and they'd roll them out, they'd be all painted up.
• 6:37
  Don Armstrong: Of course, there was no inside to that.
• 6:40
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, just a shell.
• 6:41
  Don Armstrong: But oh they were they had them way up on a big platform, going in a big turntable, and some hot looking chick describing the car.
• 6:50
  Don Armstrong: Gone are those days.
• 6:52
  Don Armstrong: It's a shame.
• 6:54
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh well.
• 6:56
  Jeff Dziekan: That's how they designed for computers.
• 6:58
  Don Armstrong: And here uh this falls under the bad dealership again.
• 7:02
  Don Armstrong: Uh-uh.
• 7:03
  Don Armstrong: All right.
• 7:03
  Don Armstrong: A former high-level executive in Courtney New Jersey luxury dealerships who embezzled more than one point six million dollars over seven years was sentenced to eighteen months in prison in order to pay four hundred and ninety-four thousand and eighty-two dollars in back taxes.
• 7:31
  Don Armstrong: That's how they got him.
• 7:32
  Don Armstrong: Well, that wait a minute.
• 7:33
  Don Armstrong: They got mobsters that way too, didn't they?
• 7:35
  Jeff Dziekan: I don't know.
• 7:35
  Jeff Dziekan: But that's tax evasion?
• 7:36
  Jeff Dziekan: $228,571 a year.
• 7:41
  Jeff Dziekan: He wasn't living too bad off the hog, was he?
• 7:44
  Jeff Dziekan: That's just scratch.
• 7:45
  Don Armstrong: Uh Ju Yong Lee pleaded guilty before U.S.
• 7:48
  Don Armstrong: District Judge Hayden to filing a false income tax return in 2021.
• 7:53
  Don Armstrong: From approximately 2015 through 2021, Lee embezzled over 1.6 from various high-end dealerships in New Jersey, where he worked.
• 8:01
  Don Armstrong: When he filed his tax returns, Lee failed to report or pay tax of the funds as income.
• 8:07
  Don Armstrong: Dummy.
• 8:08
  Don Armstrong: Lee was general manager of Maserati of Central New Jersey, Bentley, Edison, and Ferrari of Central New Jersey, all in Edison.
• 8:16
  Don Armstrong: Um the stores are part of the Mergado Automotive Group of Miami, which ranks number 65 on the top list of top 150 dealerships in the U.S.
• 8:26
  Don Armstrong: Well, they ain't uh they won't be in the top.
• 8:28
  Don Armstrong: You couldn't you couldn't take that amount from like a uh a Volkswagen dealer.
• 8:33
  Don Armstrong: Or uh uh a McDonald's restaurant.
• 8:35
  Jeff Dziekan: Right.
• 8:37
  Don Armstrong: Mercedes, yeah, Maserati, all of that other big money stuff.
• 8:42
  Don Armstrong: USMCA.
• 8:44
  Don Armstrong: You've heard that?
• 8:45
  Don Armstrong: It's US Mexico Canada.
• 8:47
  Don Armstrong: Okay, it's an agreement that uh has been in place for a long time.
• 8:52
  Don Armstrong: Well, U.S.
• 8:53
  Don Armstrong: Trade Representative Jamison Greer said Tuesday that he does not expect negotiations on the U.S.
• 8:58
  Don Armstrong: Mexico-Canada agreement to on trade to be resolved by July 1st.
• 9:03
  Don Armstrong: They were hoping to get it done by July 1st.
• 9:05
  Don Armstrong: July is the required deadline for USMCA to notify Canada and Mexico about its plans for the trilateral trade pact known as USMCA.
• 9:15
  Don Armstrong: The USMCA review sets up a three-way choice for j uh each country.
• 9:20
  Don Armstrong: The they can renew the deal for another 16 years, withdraw from it, or signal both non-renewal and non-withdrawal, which triggers an annual review that could keep negotiations going for up to a decade.
• 9:35
  unknown: Oh God.
• 9:36
  Jeff Dziekan: Didn't George Bush uh the younger put that in place?
• 9:39
  Jeff Dziekan: I think he he negotiated that.
• 9:41
  Jeff Dziekan: Got a meeting.
• 9:43
  Don Armstrong: Let's go to a meeting.
• 9:44
  Don Armstrong: Let's go to another meeting.
• 9:46
  Don Armstrong: Okay, what time's that meeting?
• 9:47
  Don Armstrong: Three?
• 9:47
  Don Armstrong: Well, let's go.
• 9:48
  Don Armstrong: Wait a minute.
• 9:48
  Don Armstrong: And then after the three, we got uh wait, we got one at seven o'clock in the morning before everybody gets here.
• 9:53
  Don Armstrong: Oh wait, that's not we're not done.
• 9:55
  Don Armstrong: The lunch?
• 9:56
  Don Armstrong: We're gonna cater with it.
• 9:57
  Don Armstrong: We got another meeting.
• 9:58
  Don Armstrong: Let's have a meeting about lunch.
• 9:59
  Don Armstrong: Let's have a meeting about a meeting.
• 10:02
  unknown: Kidding.
• 10:02
  Jeff Dziekan: I was in a company that did that.
• 10:04
  Don Armstrong: Have we lost Mars?
• 10:06
  Don Armstrong: Where is Mars?
• 10:07
  Don Armstrong: Uh he's working with uh Richard, trying to get Richard.
• 10:10
  Don Armstrong: Well, I think that he needs to go down there to Apex Auto Works.
• 10:12
  Don Armstrong: There you go.
• 10:13
  Don Armstrong: Uh either that or just give up on the whole thing.
• 10:16
  Don Armstrong: Um, I can continue on with headlines if you'd like.
• 10:19
  Don Armstrong: Well, you go right ahead if you got them.
• 10:21
  Don Armstrong: All right.
• 10:22
  Don Armstrong: Uh are you are you able to do the launch of the Model T Ford from here?
• 10:26
  Don Armstrong: Uh with the video and everything?
• 10:28
  Don Armstrong: Well, maybe let me see.
• 10:29
  Don Armstrong: All right, because it we can't go you do that and I'll work on this.
• 10:32
  Don Armstrong: Oh, you work on that.
• 10:33
  Don Armstrong: I'll work on that.
• 10:34
  Don Armstrong: Over 40 years in the U.S., Hyundai has worked its way into a position of strength in mass market passenger cars and family haulers.
• 10:40
  Don Armstrong: Now Hyundai is entering the last big uncharted territory in its quest to join the ranks of North America's full line automakers.
• 10:48
  Don Armstrong: With its first body-on-frame platforms in the U.S., the fast-growing company is muscling in on the highly profitable pickups and SUVs that are the lifeblood of the Detroit 3.
• 11:01
  Don Armstrong: The first vehicle on the new platform, a mid-sized pickup truck scheduled to arrive in 2029.
• 11:07
  Don Armstrong: Hyundai hinted at its vision for full-fledged trucks with the Boulder concept, a sleek powertrain agnostic utility, it says can tackle the toughest terrain.
• 11:18
  Don Armstrong: In Boulder, the Boulder, though only a concept, is aimed squarely at the growing off-road segment owned by Ford Bronco and Jeep Wrangler.
• 11:27
  Don Armstrong: Hyundai already has a pickup in the U.S., the compact unibody Santa Cruz, but it musters only a fraction of the Ford Mustang's uh Mavericks sales, I should say.
• 11:37
  Don Armstrong: Uh sources have told Automotive News that Hyundai soon will give up on the Santa Cruz.
• 11:43
  Don Armstrong: So they're gonna do a whole new thing and they're gonna get serious about it.
• 11:46
  Don Armstrong: I saw a Santa Cruz just yesterday and I'm going, man, that thing is small.
• 11:52
  Don Armstrong: Why not smaller than a Santa Fe?
• 11:54
  Don Armstrong: I'm sure that I I'm sure that they've done the research, but I don't understand why they don't build a El Camino or El uh or a Ranchero uh size vehicle that was built on a car freight.
• 12:10
  Don Armstrong: Why don't they do that?
• 12:12
  Don Armstrong: I guess they've done the research.
• 12:14
  Jeff Dziekan: It's not in line for the next idea.
• 12:16
  Jeff Dziekan: They've got other ideas that they want to take care of.
• 12:18
  Don Armstrong: Well, they need to stop that.
• 12:19
  Don Armstrong: What do they think they are?
• 12:20
  Don Armstrong: Moving forward, yeah, allegedly.
• 12:22
  Don Armstrong: Mr.
• 12:23
  Don Armstrong: Mars, are you with us?
• 12:24
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 12:24
  Don Armstrong: He is.
• 12:24
  Mike Marrs: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 12:25
  Mike Marrs: I was gonna say, I thought I read something about some rumors that Chevrolet was going to resurrect the Okamino.
• 12:30
  Don Armstrong: They're gonna re-re re-erect resurrect.
• 12:35
  Don Armstrong: Re-erect.
• 12:36
  Don Armstrong: Whatever.
• 12:37
  Don Armstrong: I've I've screwed all that up all morning long.
• 12:40
  Don Armstrong: So I guess uh Richard Tomlin is a no, huh?
• 12:42
  Mike Marrs: Yeah, we're not sure what's going on down there.
• 12:44
  Mike Marrs: We got video, but no audio, so we're gonna work offline this week and see if we can figure it out what's going on.
• 12:49
  Don Armstrong: Just a minute, isn't he an Alvin?
• 12:51
  Mike Marrs: Yes.
• 12:52
  Don Armstrong: Alvin.
• 12:57
  Jeff Dziekan: We could bring him up as an in in studio guest up here.
• 13:00
  Jeff Dziekan: You could, yeah.
• 13:01
  Jeff Dziekan: We'd take him a club to get here.
• 13:02
  Mike Marrs: Yeah.
• 13:03
  Mike Marrs: Well, but still, he's talked to us before from the parking lot, showing us some of the projects and stuff.
• 13:08
  Mike Marrs: He's talked to us from Pike's Peak.
• 13:11
  Mike Marrs: So I don't know what's going on, but we're gonna work on it this week.
• 13:13
  Don Armstrong: Mike, you ought to know all about it.
• 13:15
  Jeff Dziekan: You live in Aderville.
• 13:16
  Jeff Dziekan: Could be Theodore did it.
• 13:18
  Jeff Dziekan: Theodore.
• 13:19
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 13:20
  Jeff Dziekan: And what was the other one?
• 13:22
  Jeff Dziekan: Alvin.
• 13:23
  Jeff Dziekan: Alvin, Theodore, and Oscar?
• 13:25
  Jeff Dziekan: No.
• 13:25
  Jeff Dziekan: No, no.
• 13:26
  Jeff Dziekan: The three three chipmunk boys.
• 13:29
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh boy.
• 13:30
  Jeff Dziekan: If you know, contact Mike at Mars at Impact.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_05: Alvin Theodore.
• 13:39
  Don Armstrong: What were the names of the three?
• 13:41
  Don Armstrong: Of the three.
• 13:42
  Jeff Dziekan: Are you Googling it?
• 13:43
  Jeff Dziekan: If George is listening, George knows.
• 13:46
  Jeff Dziekan: George will know.
• 13:47
  Jeff Dziekan: But George is listening, but Simon.
• 13:49
  Jeff Dziekan: Simon.
• 13:50
  Jeff Dziekan: Simon!
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: Of course!
• 13:53
  Jeff Dziekan: G Davy.
• 13:55
  Jeff Dziekan: Squirrel.
• 13:57
  Jeff Dziekan: That was Simon.
• 14:00
  Jeff Dziekan: Speaking of uh speaking of our listeners, uh Jeff Heitzman, congratulations on his Artemis.
• 14:05
  Jeff Dziekan: You know, Jeff was part of that program.
• 14:07
  Jeff Dziekan: I think he's an Artemis III.
• 14:08
  Jeff Dziekan: He's working on Artemis III project.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, he's working on some future parts of it.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_05: The next step or two.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yep, yep.
• 14:14
  Jeff Dziekan: So good for Jeffrey.
• 14:16
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:17
  Don Armstrong: Very exciting.
• 14:17
  Don Armstrong: My Katie is out in Vandenberg.
• 14:19
  Don Armstrong: She's been out there all week.
• 14:20
  Don Armstrong: She's working on uh a SpaceX project that um is gonna launch six, count them six of her satellites on one rocket ship.
• 14:29
  Don Armstrong: Oh boy.
• 14:33
  Don Armstrong: The in-wheel time space cases.
• 14:35
  Don Armstrong: That's it.
• 14:35
  Don Armstrong: That's right.
• 14:36
  Don Armstrong: Well, that's gonna be our next title.
• 14:38
  Don Armstrong: We should do remote from the moon, Mike.
• 14:42
  Don Armstrong: Actually, we are.
• 14:43
  Don Armstrong: Uh based on all of our uh trials and tribulations with this Zoom thing that Mars has saddled us with.
• 14:50
  Don Armstrong: That's been over a year, and every week it's something.
• 14:54
  Don Armstrong: Well, no, I'm just it's not his fault.
• 14:56
  Don Armstrong: No, no, it's not.
• 14:57
  Don Armstrong: But it's it it is.
• 14:59
  Don Armstrong: We we bust everything.
• 15:01
  Don Armstrong: Mars, yeah, listen, uh I know Becky, and it's always your fault.
• 15:07
  Don Armstrong: Absolutely.
• 15:08
  Don Armstrong: So I don't want to I don't want to bust the cycle there.
• 15:10
  Don Armstrong: Uh so I'm just gonna keep up the movement and bust his butt.
• 15:14
  Mike Marrs: I would be disappointed to learn that I actually I did something right every once in a while she'll say something.
• 15:18
  Mike Marrs: I'll say, Can you write that on the wall?
• 15:20
  Mike Marrs: Nope.
• 15:21
  Mike Marrs: Ain't gonna write it on the wall.
• 15:23
  Don Armstrong: Put it on a camera.
• 15:23
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 15:24
  Don Armstrong: That wall was painted 15 years ago, and there's still nothing on it.
• 15:27
  Don Armstrong: Exactly.
• 15:30
  Don Armstrong: We're going to take a quick break, okay?
• 15:32
  Don Armstrong: Because we deserve it, my god.
• 15:34
  Mike Marrs: I I would like to say one thing though.
• 15:36
  Mike Marrs: So so we're kind of like the the Artemis toilet that they had problems with.
• 15:43
  Mike Marrs: You know, we we're we're going into areas unknown as far as live streaming goes.
• 15:49
  Mike Marrs: That most people don't they record it and then they fix it so they don't have anything.
• 15:53
  Mike Marrs: We're real.
• 15:54
  Don Armstrong: That's the problem.
• 15:55
  Don Armstrong: They have money and they just throw money at it.
• 15:58
  Don Armstrong: Either that or they go to a podcasting studio.
• 16:02
  Don Armstrong: They go to a podcasting studio, pay a fortune for it, kind of like we did in the old radio days.
• 16:07
  Don Armstrong: Remember that?
• 16:08
  Don Armstrong: And we go there, and somebody else would make all the money from us and we would broadcast it to zero people.
• 16:17
  Jeff Dziekan: I think what you were trying to say is we got a lot of crap floating around here.
• 16:20
  Jeff Dziekan: We do, yeah.
• 16:21
  Mike Marrs: Just saying that that it's we are leading technology in this field.
• 16:26
  Mike Marrs: And it's not like that toilet.
• 16:28
  Don Armstrong: Sometimes you gotta stop fixing it.
• 16:31
  Don Armstrong: They fixed it.
• 16:32
  Don Armstrong: They had they had more computing power on uh on uh Alan Shepherd's first rocket.
• 16:39
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, yeah, they said that the the calculators nowadays have more power than what they went up with, you know, all the computers that they had.
• 16:45
  Jeff Dziekan: I was trying to be functions.
• 16:46
  Don Armstrong: Oh, so they still haven't got the toilet fixed.
• 16:49
  Don Armstrong: No, the toilet still is a problem.
• 16:51
  Don Armstrong: Well, you just go to the backyard.
• 16:53
  Mike Marrs: Exactly.
• 16:54
  Mike Marrs: Go on the back side of the moon.
• 16:55
  Mike Marrs: You shouldn't take care of that when you were on the back side of the moon.
• 16:58
  Don Armstrong: Just ahead in Jeff's car culture, the launch of the Model T Ford and Mars has top five swap meets in the U.S.
• 17:05
  Don Armstrong: of A in his driving destinations after this break on the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show.
• 17:11
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• 19:01
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• 19:04
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• 19:05
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 19:05
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• 19:06
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• 19:07
  Don Armstrong: Launch of the Model T Ford.
• 19:09
  Jeff Dziekan: It's about time.
• 19:10
  Jeff Dziekan: So the things that you really didn't know and the kind of speculation, but the Model T revolution revolutionized transportation and manufacturing in America when it debuted in 1908.
• 19:20
  Jeff Dziekan: While many know it was the first affordable automobile that put American on wheels, Henry Ford's vision created the new car for the common person.
• 19:28
  Jeff Dziekan: So here we go.
• 19:29
  Jeff Dziekan: Talk about price.
• 19:30
  Jeff Dziekan: Well initially the car sold for eight hundred and twenty-five dollars in nineteen oh eight, equivalent to about twenty-five grand today.
• 19:37
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh the affordable compared to other automobiles of the area, which typically cost about two grand.
• 19:43
  Jeff Dziekan: Ford managed the price point by focusing on simplicity and efficiency.
• 19:47
  Jeff Dziekan: And then you talk about the color.
• 19:49
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, despite the popular saying that customers would have had any color as long as it's black, the earliest model T's weren't actually black.
• 19:56
  Jeff Dziekan: The first production models came in gray, green, red, and blue.
• 19:59
  Jeff Dziekan: Really?
• 20:00
  Jeff Dziekan: Black became standard in nineteen fourteen because black paint dried faster.
• 20:05
  Jeff Dziekan: That's why and it sped up production.
• 20:07
  Jeff Dziekan: Wow.
• 20:07
  Jeff Dziekan: Who knew?
• 20:08
  Jeff Dziekan: Who knew?
• 20:09
  Jeff Dziekan: So you talk about the people doing that?
• 20:10
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, workers were paid five dollars a day in nineteen fourteen, which was just generous.
• 20:15
  Jeff Dziekan: It was revolutionary.
• 20:17
  Jeff Dziekan: The wage doubled and the industry standard uh to follow.
• 20:20
  Jeff Dziekan: Allowed workers to afford the very cars they were building, and that's what Ford wanted.
• 20:25
  Jeff Dziekan: He wanted uh understanding that the customers create what was important to them.
• 20:30
  Jeff Dziekan: Talk about the budget.
• 20:31
  Jeff Dziekan: Ford's budget was uh not anything uncommon, but modern vehicles launched with massive marketing campaigns.
• 20:37
  Jeff Dziekan: Ford spent almost nothing on advertising for the Model T.
• 20:41
  Jeff Dziekan: The car essentially sold itself through word of mouth and newspaper coverage.
• 20:45
  Jeff Dziekan: Ford relied on the product's quality and affordability to generate the buzz.
• 20:50
  Jeff Dziekan: The assembly line?
• 20:51
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, contrary to popular belief, the Model T didn't launch with the famous moving assembly line.
• 20:56
  Jeff Dziekan: The innovation came five years after the release in 1913.
• 20:59
  Jeff Dziekan: I was gonna say by 1914 when everybody got a ring.
• 21:02
  Jeff Dziekan: Yep, yep.
• 21:03
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh before that, cars were built in a stationary position with workers moving between them, taking about twelve hours per vehicle.
• 21:09
  Jeff Dziekan: Wow.
• 21:09
  Jeff Dziekan: The capacity?
• 21:10
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, Ford's factory could produce eleven cars per day by nineteen fourteen and implementing the moving assembly line.
• 21:16
  Jeff Dziekan: The numbers skyrocketed to about ninety-three uh a car every ninety-three minutes, which was very good back then.
• 21:23
  Jeff Dziekan: Efficiency allowed Ford to continue dropping prices throughout production.
• 21:27
  Jeff Dziekan: The first global car.
• 21:29
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, it's what they called it.
• 21:30
  Jeff Dziekan: It was designed as the world's first global car.
• 21:32
  Jeff Dziekan: Ford built factories across six continents.
• 21:35
  Jeff Dziekan: And the Model T was manufactured in twenty countries.
• 21:38
  Jeff Dziekan: That was that's pretty crazy back then in nineteen thirteen, nineteen fourteen.
• 21:42
  Jeff Dziekan: Talk about the procedures.
• 21:44
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, uh the Model T wasn't as simply as simple as turning the key.
• 21:47
  Jeff Dziekan: Drivers had to set multiple levels to adjust the throttle, physically cranking the engine by hand.
• 21:53
  Jeff Dziekan: The crank would kick back dangerously and sometimes breaking a wrist or a finger if the unprepared person was operating it.
• 22:00
  Jeff Dziekan: That they had.
• 22:00
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, the unique material solutions it's a magneto part of the connection.
• 22:05
  Jeff Dziekan: It was built in the flywheel using materials that had been used in automobiles before.
• 22:09
  Jeff Dziekan: The innovation eliminated the need for batteries in early mod in the early models through significant engineering achievements.
• 22:17
  Jeff Dziekan: Transformation of it was uh the Ford specifically designed the Model T with high ground clearance and flexible suspension to handle America's most unpaved rural roads.
• 22:26
  Jeff Dziekan: Don't forget, there wasn't any concrete back then either.
• 22:28
  Jeff Dziekan: The Model T arrived before proper roads did, actually driving demand for better infrastructure nationwide.
• 22:34
  Jeff Dziekan: So I kind of contributed to that for that.
• 22:36
  Jeff Dziekan: No, that's a Model A.
• 22:37
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 22:38
  Jeff Dziekan: There's other pictures in there too.
• 22:40
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh the the source, many farmers used the Model T as a stationary power source by jacking up the rear wheels and attaching a belt to the axle, the Model T could perform uh farm equipment like saws, pumps, and threshers effectively serving as a mobile generator.
• 22:56
  Jeff Dziekan: The name well, the T designated seems obvious now, but if you know the representative representative Ford's twentieth design attempt, this previous model ran through much of the alphabet.
• 23:09
  Jeff Dziekan: Several failed several of them failed prototypes before the model team was a success.
• 23:13
  Jeff Dziekan: The earliest prototypes from 1903 were simply named with letters in the sequence.
• 23:18
  Jeff Dziekan: So the T finally was at the end of the alphabet, basically.
• 23:21
  Jeff Dziekan: Other milestones, the production ended in 1927.
• 23:24
  Jeff Dziekan: Ford manufactured an astounding fifteen million model T's.
• 23:29
  Jeff Dziekan: The record stood until 1972 when the Volkswagen Beatles finally surpassed it.
• 23:33
  Jeff Dziekan: No other single model dominated the market so completely for so long.
• 23:37
  Jeff Dziekan: So there you go.
• 23:38
  Jeff Dziekan: You're just gonna drive it through America and that's a little tidbits and facts about that, and people didn't know all that.
• 23:44
  Jeff Dziekan: Now you do.
• 23:48
  Don Armstrong: I always thought that the Model T was uh assembly line made from the very beginning.
• 23:55
  Don Armstrong: But no, five years later.
• 23:56
  Jeff Dziekan: He was very innovative back in the beginning.
• 23:58
  Jeff Dziekan: So you know thank you, Henry Ford and all the Ford family.
• 24:01
  Jeff Dziekan: You know, but he must go recall something.
• 24:03
  Jeff Dziekan: He wasn't a very nice person.
• 24:06
  Jeff Dziekan: No, he wasn't.
• 24:06
  Jeff Dziekan: He was uh uh no, he was not.
• 24:09
  Jeff Dziekan: He was an ass.
• 24:10
  Jeff Dziekan: He was I think he was an anti-Semite, that's what he was.
• 24:12
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_04: There was a lot of stories about that too.
• 24:15
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:16
  Jeff Dziekan: And every one of those pictures you saw, those vehicles have been recalled.
• 24:20
  Don Armstrong: Oh my god.
• 24:21
  Don Armstrong: You know, I haven't even done recalls, but uh, Mr.
• 24:24
  Don Armstrong: Mars, uh it's time for your driving destinations and five swap meets, and it's time for you to go.
• 24:29
  Don Armstrong: You want me to get a mic?
• 24:31
  Mike Marrs: If you would, sir, I'll pull it up and get you started.
• 24:33
  Mike Marrs: There you go.
• 24:34
  Mike Marrs: All right.
• 24:35
  Mike Marrs: So swap meets are something that we used to.
• 24:38
  Mike Marrs: I remember when I was much, much younger that that was something that we always went to looking for parts.
• 24:42
  Mike Marrs: It was a big deal.
• 24:43
  Mike Marrs: It was almost like almost every car show had a swap meet, and it's not so much anymore.
• 24:49
  Mike Marrs: Now, if you're going to find something, and generally it's tied into a flea market.
• 24:52
  Mike Marrs: But there are several swap meet.
• 24:55
  Mike Marrs: Or you go online and get it, you know, it takes all the fun out of watching, walking through it.
• 25:00
  Mike Marrs: So, but one of them that's going on that is still a pretty big deal, is the Southwest Swap Meet at Lone Star Park.
• 25:06
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is right between Dallas and Fort Worth.
• 25:09
  Mike Marrs: Happens twice a year.
• 25:10
  Mike Marrs: In fact, it's going on this weekend, is the spring event, and there'll be one later on in the fall.
• 25:14
  Mike Marrs: Now, this has been around since 1968, and it's set up on a six on a 300-acre horse racing facility.
• 25:22
  Mike Marrs: So it's not a lot of open fields and stuff.
• 25:25
  Mike Marrs: You've got parking lots and grandstand, the tracks all right there in the background, but there's like 5,000 spaces available for vendors, food trucks, and the auto corral.
• 25:35
  Mike Marrs: So if you want to go looking for something in a little bit more of a laid-back atmosphere that's not totally too big, put on your walking shoes and go check out this one.
• 25:45
  Mike Marrs: Now, getting a little bit closer to home down here in the Dallas part of the world, Hot Rods of Texas swap meet happens up in Conroe.
• 25:53
  Mike Marrs: Again, this one is twice a year, and this is the second largest swap meet in Texas.
• 25:59
  Mike Marrs: Now, uh the October event is set for October the 23rd and the 25th.
• 26:03
  Mike Marrs: Again, Montgomery County Fairgrounds out on Airport Road.
• 26:06
  Mike Marrs: We've been out there a couple of times with some other events.
• 26:09
  Mike Marrs: It is a real fairgrounds.
• 26:11
  Mike Marrs: It is a large place, and they use the whole thing.
• 26:15
  Mike Marrs: Hot rods, muscle cars, project builds.
• 26:17
  Mike Marrs: And the great thing about this one is if you're going to be a vendor there, if you're going to come in there and set up, you've got to have at least 75% of your content, your stuff you're bringing in, has got to be auto-related.
• 26:28
  Mike Marrs: So you're not really going to turn this into some sort of flea market with a lot of handicrafts on it.
• 26:33
  Mike Marrs: And uh it usually draws a lot of a pretty big crowd because isn't that a cute person with a lot of there?
• 26:41
  Mike Marrs: Got a car on it.
• 26:42
  Mike Marrs: So um then we're gonna go to the big one.
• 26:46
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is the biggest in Texas, and it is considered one of the largest in the country.
• 26:50
  Mike Marrs: Now, this is the Pate Swap Meet.
• 26:52
  Mike Marrs: Happens April the 23rd through the 25th, so still got time to get there.
• 26:56
  Mike Marrs: Now, this was started in 1972 by several Texas car clubs who were going off to Pennsylvania, to Hershey, and places like that, and they got tired of making the drive.
• 27:04
  Mike Marrs: So they decided to set one up here, and it's been through several different places, and now is home at the Texas Motor Speedway.
• 27:11
  Mike Marrs: Fourteen clubs get together to put this together.
• 27:14
  Mike Marrs: They have 2,000 vendors, and they have 9,900 spaces for people to set up and swap parts and swap stories.
• 27:24
  Mike Marrs: Then they have an auto corral.
• 27:27
  Mike Marrs: And there's some pictures, part of these pictures are from the top seating of the track looking out over the field.
• 27:34
  Mike Marrs: It uses the in the whole track.
• 27:37
  Mike Marrs: And uh a lot of people, I mean, they now have uh golf carts, a lot of people use scooters, a lot of people get around.
• 27:44
  Mike Marrs: Um last time I was up there, it wasn't quite this big, it was pre-COVID.
• 27:48
  Mike Marrs: I was there two days and still didn't get to walk through all of it.
• 27:51
  Mike Marrs: So there's a lot of stuff up there and lots of things, and if you buy something, if you can't carry it, they got people that'll actually carry it to your car.
• 27:58
  Mike Marrs: So one thing about these car these swap meets, whether it's these big ones or the small ones that you can find, the biggest thing you've got to remember is bring cash.
• 28:07
  Mike Marrs: Cash is king because out there in the middle of the parking lot, you're not gonna necessarily have access to a credit card.
• 28:14
  Mike Marrs: And the other thing is if you want to get something in particular, if you're really looking for a hard-to-part find, you ought to get there a little bit early and get started on it.
• 28:22
  Mike Marrs: Bring your walking shoes.
• 28:24
  Mike Marrs: And um a couple other yeah, yeah.
• 28:27
  Mike Marrs: Yeah, you walk your feet off with that.
• 28:29
  Mike Marrs: A couple other things I want to mention quite real quick.
• 28:31
  Mike Marrs: Greenville Swap Meet, that's an old school option early in the spring that's up there.
• 28:35
  Mike Marrs: And the other one is the Corvette Chevy Expo down in Galveston.
• 28:38
  Mike Marrs: It's pretty close.
• 28:40
  Mike Marrs: That one also has uh a swap meet, but it's primarily GM focused, uh, obviously heavy into the Corvettes.
• 28:47
  Mike Marrs: But swap meets are still out there and you can find them.
• 28:50
  Mike Marrs: Uh, you just got to kind of look for them.
• 28:52
  Mike Marrs: They're not uh as plentiful as they used to be, but they're still a lot of fun.
• 28:55
  Don Armstrong: All right, thank you, sir.
• 28:56
  Don Armstrong: Got to take a quick break here on the Unreal Time Car Talk Show.
• 28:59
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