Latest / The Uncensored Catholic / Episode 15: Fish on Friday and Being Culturally Catholic
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- 0:01Hey, y'all, welcome today's show. You know, I think a lot
- 0:05of times, particularly cratile Catholics seem to take for granted certain aspects of catholicissm
- 0:14that I would call being culturally Catholic. You know, it's it's very being
- 0:20a convert from Protestantism. One is very aware that much in Catholic culture is
- 0:29very different from Protestant culture. But you know, there are certain whether it's
- 0:35ethnic traditions or specifically religious traditions, that are unique to the Catholic Church.
- 0:43But oftentimes I'm almost surprised to learn someone is Catholic that I've known for a
- 0:51while and they say, oh, well, I'm Catholic, or i'll seem
- 0:53at Mass, and maybe because they've begun taking such things to granted to the
- 1:00extent that they no longer wear those cultural identifiers or follow those traditions in a
- 1:07way. And I think it's it's kind of a shame, because it really
- 1:10is living your faith when you can incorporate it into the rest of your life.
- 1:18You know, if our religion is just you know, forty five minutes
- 1:23or so at Mass every Sunday morning, yeah, that's not saying a lot.
- 1:27You know that's that's that's isolating our religion from the rest of our lives.
- 1:33Now, people may have private devotions, and I know that, I
- 1:34get that, and there may be very valid reasons why some people like to
- 1:40go kind of under the radar as Catholic. I have had to do that
- 1:42before. Really after my conversion, I had to spend time in a very
- 1:49rural part of eastern North Carolina, which is very much dominated by most everybody's
- 1:57Southern Baptists or Seven Day administ or Methodist or so a lot of holiness churches.
- 2:06But really far more than that, the Masonic Order is just they run
- 2:10everything. I mean, you don't get a job, you don't get a
- 2:15loan unless you're a member of the Masons, or you have a friend who's
- 2:19a Mason who can sign off. And the clan is still pops up every
- 2:23now and then, and only a couple of generations. Well, even in
- 2:27my lifetime, the clan was very active. I mean I mentioned before I'm
- 2:32a show that in the nineties, even when Bill Clinton was president, there
- 2:38were billboards in that area of North Carolina that said welcome to our county,
- 2:42and it had a big clansman on horseback right, full robes and everything.
- 2:46You know St Andrew's Cross, and it said welcome to whatever County of North
- 2:53Carolina, or the q Klux Clan of such and such county of North Carolina,
- 2:59and the Democrat Party of this county welcome. You please remember to obey
- 3:05our laws, you know, like I've said, they were not welcoming signs.
- 3:09And to have a statue in your yard, maybe if the Blessed Virgin
- 3:15Mary or a Saint Francis statue. You might go to store one day and
- 3:21come back and find your house was burned down. And if you were known
- 3:24to be Catholic, you would certainly be black ball. You would not be
- 3:29in the old the Rotary, or the Kawanas or the country club, and
- 3:32you probably wouldn't get a job or the loan you would applied for. Certainly
- 3:37not a government job. All government jobs were held by Mason's. I don't
- 3:44know if it's true everywhere. I think it probably is. You know,
- 3:47the Masonic Order is very much associated with the q Klux Klan, or was.
- 3:57I think they've tried to distance themselves from that now, but still you'll
- 4:00see the Masonic Order as the Scottish Rite, for instance, in most places,
- 4:06and they used the Saint Andrew's Cross, which was also the symbol of
- 4:11the clan. And you know, probably I didn't even mention the Presbyterians.
- 4:17Presbyterians were the dominant church in that area, very much Scott's Irish, but
- 4:23most of them over the generations drifted away and become Baptist or Methodists. So
- 4:27really it was only the wealthy families that were Presbyterian or Anglican, Episcopal whatever.
- 4:33But all of them were Masons. And you know, of course the
- 4:39Shriners do good things for handicapped kids. Okay, but you may not know
- 4:46this. Actually the Masonic Order is dedicated to this destruction of the Catholic Church.
- 4:54All Masons take vowels that they will not belong to a Catholic church.
- 5:00You know, actually I shouldn't say all Masons. There are all these various
- 5:02levels. I've actually met Catholic Masons before that don't know, the Masons are
- 5:08anti Catholic. It may kind of surprise you on that, but actually they
- 5:13are kind of learn more as they're initiated into higher levels. They just thought
- 5:16it was a social club like the Rotary or something. But if you look
- 5:20at your Catechism. You can go to the old Catechism, you can go
- 5:23to the New Catechism. Catholics are forbidden to join the Masonic Order because some
- 5:28Masonic order is anti Catholic to its core. And you know, at least
- 5:33a few years ago, a couple of decades ago, a Mason actually had
- 5:38to swear an oath that even on his deathbed, he would not receive the
- 5:44Sacrament of Last Rites, or go to confession, or have anything to do
- 5:47with a Catholic priest. Historically, they've been very violent, very quite violent.
- 5:58If you go back to our Lady of Fatima, you know, the
- 6:01Mason's actually kidnapped the three kids and with un thread of torture, tried to
- 6:09get them to renounce their visions of the Blessed Mother. And according to my
- 6:14friends in Rome, especially a friend that is very much involved in the legal
- 6:17system, they have thoroughly infiltrated government and even church organizations for the express purpose
- 6:26of destroying the Catholic Church. The Masonic Order is humanist at its core and
- 6:33actually quite satanic. That said, most Masons have absolutely no idea. As
- 6:40I said, I even know Catholic Masons and members of my family who didn't
- 6:45hate anybody, and they were at lower levels of the Masonic Order, had
- 6:49not been initiated into the higher orders of the Masonic Order. But I can
- 6:56definitely understand, having been in that environment, why someone may wish to be
- 7:00a low key Catholic. Keep your crucifix tucked in your shirt, if you
- 7:04wear one at all, right, don't be seen with rosary beats. There
- 7:08have been times at certain gatherings where a prayer was said before a meal and
- 7:14I had to stop myself from crossing myself because it could have been physically dangerous.
- 7:18And you may say, well, you should have done it anyway and
- 7:20die a martyr when you got people depending on you, when you're taking care
- 7:26of family members, that's not always the best thing to do. And actually
- 7:30the Catechism says we don't have to necessarily expose ourselves to danger anyway. I
- 7:38was talking with a friend about a week ago, and it was funny,
- 7:44you know, I think as a convert, we tend to be a little
- 7:47more zealous about tradition, you know, and not well, everything's new,
- 7:53so we haven't had a chance to take it for granted yet. And I
- 7:58abstain from meat on Fridays and when possible, I like to fast on Fridays.
- 8:03And it was talking with a friend of mine who was Catholic, and
- 8:07she said, you're not gonna believe this, and it's kind of embarrassing.
- 8:11Around thirty, you know, she said, I never knew that we were
- 8:15not supposed to eat meat outside of Lent on Fridays, abstained from meat on
- 8:20Friday's outside of Lent. She said that I had mentioned it, and then
- 8:24she was talking with someone else, it was Catholic, who said they didn't
- 8:26eat meat on Fridays, and it finally clicked in her mind. Wait a
- 8:28minute, We're not supposed to eat meat on Fridays. And you know,
- 8:33it's such almost a trivial thing really, And of course most of you know,
- 8:39after part of Vatican two was saying that Catholics were no longer required to
- 8:43abstain from meat on Friday, and it makes a lot of sense. Okay,
- 8:48that's one thing I'm not going to criticize Vatican two about. You know,
- 8:52well, certainly, in ancient times and really up until it just a
- 8:56couple hundred years ago, most cities were founded on major bodies of water.
- 9:03They were at seaports, or on major rivers and such. Think of all
- 9:07the great, you know, amazing cities of Europe, they're going to be
- 9:09on seaport or a major river. Think about in America where the large cities
- 9:15are in New York, Boston, you know, come on down the coast
- 9:18to Savannah and Miami and go to the west coast around the Great Lakes.
- 9:24The Mississippi River. Water was essential for transportation, for life, for everything,
- 9:31and fish was abundant in the I guess I think it was probably the
- 9:37eighteen nineties, I mean just as recently as that, or at maybe eighteen
- 9:41seventies. In Massachusetts, they actually passed a law saying that prisoners could only
- 9:48be served lobster so many times a week because they was thought to be inhumane
- 9:52to feed them too much lobster. They were sick of it, they didn't
- 9:54want anymore. Lobster was thought to be worthless. Oysters were the food of
- 10:00the poor. You could get twelve for a penny, and only the poorest.
- 10:03A rich person would not be caught dead eating oysters. What really changed
- 10:09was the railroad system. So the railways, people were able to go inland
- 10:13and to put towns not anywhere near a major source of water and that,
- 10:20and then seafood became a delicacy. Lobster and oysters and you know, did
- 10:26you Caviar actually used to be given away free in bars as a salty snack
- 10:31to make you thirsty to eat more beer. It was considered to be worthless.
- 10:35So between about eighteen seventy with the developer of the rail system to about
- 10:39nineteen ten, everything changed and seafood had had just been food for the poor,
- 10:46became an absolute delicacy. Blue caviar and lobster and blue crab and oysters
- 10:52and all those things. That's actually my favorite kind of food. I'm a
- 10:56you know, I'm a seafood fanatic. Before then, the poor eight fish
- 11:01meat. You know, people kept chickens, but they were valued for their
- 11:05eggs. After three years or so, when your henstop laying eggs, you
- 11:09may put it in a soup pot or to a roast I mean like called
- 11:13CoA van and all those like really famous now we think of them as upscale
- 11:18meals were actually ways to use an old tough hen or well, in that
- 11:24instance, a rooster that was worthless for egg production. Some people could keep
- 11:30poor pigs if they were on the edges of town. That's a story for
- 11:35another day. I can tell you all about Wall Street and how the wall
- 11:39was actually built to keep the pigs from running around everywhere. That's a fascinating
- 11:43history as well. But as far as beef, beef only came from large
- 11:48landowners that had property, and they weren't in the towns. They were out
- 11:52in the country. Game was the exclusive for the wealthy. The wealthy landowers
- 11:58of Europe had huge states, and if anyone else went on there and shot
- 12:03their game, they were poachers. Only the wealthy had pheasant and deer and
- 12:07all that. So for almost two thousand years when the church sat on Fridays,
- 12:13we'll give up meat, because that's the day that Jesus gave up his
- 12:16flesh. We'll give up flesh. Right, that made sense. It made
- 12:20sense for the wealthy to have to give up their expensive beef and eat the
- 12:26poor folks fish and oysters and such on that day. And most people had
- 12:31gardens. Vegetables were not very expensive. They had you know, fresh markets
- 12:37people, you know, the old world style markets. You either had a
- 12:41little garden in your backyard. If you were a little upper class, maybe
- 12:43you had a few pots of your balcony, or you just went to market
- 12:46every day and what bault was fresh because there was no refrigeration, so fish
- 12:50and vegetables were cheap. Well. By the early nineteen hundreds, things were
- 12:56really starting to come to a head as fish and vegetables came defensive because in
- 13:01so many areas they had to be shipped in on freight trains, or you
- 13:05know with ice, and ice was really hard to make back then. I
- 13:09mean a lot of times it was harvested in the winter and kept frozen,
- 13:13and I mean ice was expensive, so what had become food for the poor
- 13:18became a luxury. So it makes total sense. Set in Vaticanto, they
- 13:22would recognize and say, you know, not all Catholics can't even afford to
- 13:28abstain from meat on Fridays anymore. And that's a change that makes sense.
- 13:33But I think it's really good if we can to continue to do that,
- 13:39so we can be more culturally Catholic. If you think about, let's say
- 13:43you're just going to Mass on Sundays or Saturday evenings, well that Friday,
- 13:48you can make a conscious choice, conscious choice to be Catholic on that day,
- 13:54to think about what you're giving up to alter your diet on that one
- 13:58day if you can fast, you know, fastening his penance, say some
- 14:03extra prayers, pray, pray your rosary, do an extra bit of prayer,
- 14:09and focus on being Catholic. And I know that's kind of an odd
- 14:15thing to say, but I remember that episode. I think it was perhaps
- 14:18the last episode of Agatha Christie's Hercule poiro You know, Poirot is this great
- 14:24little Belgium detective and in the last season, and David Suchet is actually a
- 14:28very religious Catholic. He did wonderful documentaries on Saint Peter and Saint Paul.
- 14:35Wonderful. Do you try to see them if you can. Really some of
- 14:39the best Catholic programming I've seen in my wife. But he wanted to emphasize
- 14:45the Catholic nature of poiro and he's holding his rosary and he says, God,
- 14:48I thank you for making me Catholic. And I think that is something
- 14:54that the convert feels on a daily basis, regardless the struggles, regardless what
- 15:03you have to put up with. That perhaps the cradle Catholic maybe takes for
- 15:07granted that it is such a privilege to go to Mass it's such a privilege
- 15:13to pray the Rosary, it's such a privilege to have the books, the
- 15:18history the Saints, and to take part in cultural Catholicism in any way,
- 15:26shape or form, is just going to enrich your life and your faith more
- 15:31and more and more. The other thing that really surprises people, you know,
- 15:35America was a very Protestant nation until early nineteen hundreds, late eighteen nineties
- 15:43Germans and Italians became coming in and it faced a lot of discrimination actually,
- 15:52but they in came one of the polls and the Hungarians, more Irish,
- 15:56Catholics, etc. In Protestant New England before the late eighteen hundreds, you
- 16:04did not celebrate Christmas or Easter, not the way we celebrate it now.
- 16:08No decorations, no parades, no days off. Now Easter falls on Sunday,
- 16:12so you'd have had Sunday off. You didn't take Christmas off. If
- 16:15you were a factory worker, you had to show up. If you were
- 16:18a government employee, you had to show up. There were no Christmas trees,
- 16:22you know. I had an ancestor that was on the second voyage of
- 16:26the Mayflower and had he put up a Christmas tree at his house. They
- 16:33literally would have dragged him out of his house, put him in the stocks,
- 16:36and beaten him. That was considered to be Catholic. The celebration of
- 16:41Christmas as we know it now was considered to be Catholic. The celebration of
- 16:45Easter as we know it now was considered to be Catholic. Really, things
- 16:51didn't change until I believe it was Queen Victoria. It was following Charles Dickens
- 16:56a Christmas Carol, right, Christmas sort to become celebrated a little more in
- 17:00England. Queen Victoria put a Christmas tree up in the Palace and it was
- 17:06really publicized all the papers. And whoever the American president was at the time,
- 17:11I cannot remember if it was Garfield. I think it was before Garfield,
- 17:15had to before Garfield. Anyway, I cannot remember who it was at
- 17:19the time. They put up a Christmas tree at the White House, and
- 17:22it was featured, you know, in the New York Post and all the
- 17:27magazines and everything. And that's the only thing that encouraged people to be in
- 17:33putting up even a sprig of holly to celebrate Christmas in America. You know,
- 17:38we think about how well now we take Christmas for granted, it's become
- 17:41commercialized and all that. I think about what a privilege it was for our
- 17:48ancestors to finally be able to celebrate the birth of Christ. And then you
- 17:56know, following on that, it was actually the canny companies that encouraged a
- 18:02big celebration for Easter. It started with Neco wafers and they were making the
- 18:07little candy hearts. Before then, candies as gifts were really expensive things that
- 18:12only the wealthy would give as a gift. We take so for granted these
- 18:19traditions in our culture, which are actually Catholic. Think about Mother's Day.
- 18:26I mean, every year you hear someone complain all the Hallmark card company came
- 18:30up with Mother's Day. Well, as Catholics, we realize, no,
- 18:33this is the day we celebrate the Mother of God and we celebrate our own
- 18:38mothers. It's it's such a privilege, honestly to be culturally Catholic. So,
- 18:48you know, I think I took my first risk when when I put
- 18:52a bumper sticker on the back of my old pickup truck. Yess a rural
- 18:56North Carolinian hillbilly. I drive an old beat up pickup truck and I put
- 19:00a bumper sticker on the back of it. Save America. Pray the Rosary.
- 19:04When I walk my dog. Wherever I am, I'm praying the rosaries
- 19:07I go and you know what, people actually smile and say hello. There's
- 19:12actually nothing to be afraid of being culturally Catholic. And it's in some areas,
- 19:21as I said, it may be difficult different I remember, Oh,
- 19:26Peggy noon Peggy Noonan was a speechwriter from Ronald Reagan. She was a conservative
- 19:30before Donald Trump was elected and now she's basically a liberal Democrat. She wrote
- 19:34about how when she put up a religious statutory yard, I think it's a
- 19:40plus. In Virgin Mary, people vandalized it every day. That's in Washington,
- 19:42d C. Okay, you're gonna move to a liberal city with a
- 19:45bunch of anti Catholic, anti Christian liberals, you're gonna get some blowback.
- 19:49But as long as you're not risking your life. As long as you're not
- 20:00and maybe that's your choice, if that's what you want to do, I
- 20:02think wearing a scapular, carrying a rosary, wearing a crucifix, and actually
- 20:07living your faith will enrich your life really beyond measure. Really beyond anything I
- 20:17could actually put into words. It's great if you can go to Mass every
- 20:21day. I can't. Many people can't. It's great if you can do
- 20:25adoration all the time. But again that's inside the church, where the church
- 20:30militant. You know, we take the church to the world, and so
- 20:34you know, hey, if you want to have a meatless Friday, if
- 20:40you want to abstain from meat on Friday, I've written an entire cookbook.
- 20:44It's called The Omnivore's Guide to Home Cooking. It probably has more information on
- 20:48cooking fish and seafood than any other book I know of. I mean seriously,
- 20:52I'm a fish and seafood fanatic, and I put a couple hundred pages
- 20:56into that. If you want to buy the book, that's cool. If
- 20:59not, you want to email me and ask for a recipe. Say I've
- 21:02got this fish I'm working with. I'll give you a recipe. I got
- 21:04this, I got some clams, I got some crawfish, I got some
- 21:08blue crabs, I mean, trout, you name it. Just to email
- 21:11me, I'll send you a recipe. Let's just enjoy. Remember, our
- 21:18entire religion centers around a meal, the meal of the Eucharist and our family
- 21:23table is like a reflection of that altar and that meal, and we should
- 21:30never never take a single meal for granted, especially a meal we can share
- 21:33with the people we love. So y'all have a great evening, and I
- 21:37will talk with you tomorrow