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The Matrix · The Art of Costume Podcast

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What do they I do with their free time though.
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Aii these little Squiddy robots have their own squid robot
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Society where they're going to college and they're watching
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movies. Skip out, you know, why do you
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think they have their own Matrix where they live like humans?
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You're frying my brain right now.
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Hello and welcome to the art of casting black ass on moves with
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joy, glass. And I am agent.
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Spencer Williams. Hello everyone.
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Hello Spencer. How's your week been?
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You've been doing lots of exciting things.
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Oh my gosh. We haven't talked a little
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while. Elizabeth That's been a strew.
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It's been a whirlwind, we just, you know, this is coming out in
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April, but we just wrapped award season, so I mean all that
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happens. The Oscars Ruth Carter won the
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costume design Oscar. So congratulations to the
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legendary Ruth Carter. She clearly deserves it.
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Yes, her expense acceptance, speech was Flawless as well.
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Yeah, of course, everything everywhere.
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All at once. Just like Like sweet, just like
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you and I predicted about a year ago and I also just opened up
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the fit, a museum. Again, it's everyone's to go
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check out. It's open until May 6.
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We have so many great costumes from Black, Panther everything
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everywhere. All at once we even have bullet
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train, one of our favorites. The Northman is in there.
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Underrated costumes. If you ask me?
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Yeah, yes. Wasn't to our episode on the
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North man. It is.
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Yeah, it doesn't want to. It's a good one and up close.
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Those costumes are just so Stellar, I'm obsessed with them.
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I feel like I need to make a last-minute trip out there.
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I don't have money but I'm like, it might be worth it to come see
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Museum exhibit this year. Yeah, you got to make it happen
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that way. So fun.
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Also, I was at the costume designer Guild Awards.
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So that was also fun, you know? It's it's been a little while
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since we recorded. It's been a whirlwind few weeks.
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I know I have a whole new haircut since the last time we
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work. Gordon.
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An actual episode. I know it looks great.
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I love the hair. Thank you.
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Oh my gosh. But yeah, it's been it's been
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crazy. But I'm so excited that we
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finally get to get back into our sci-fi month.
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It's been a little while. One of our favorite genres
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sci-fi Spencer, I am like so excited for this month.
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I wish it was like a full month but then we're gonna like roll
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right into Star Wars month. So it's almost like Like a fall
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like month. Yeah, it's like we're extending
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our mom's, you know, we had Catherine Martin month, but then
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we also talked about Romeo and Juliet.
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So, you know connected. But yeah, we love sci-fi and
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actually Elizabeth and I and Daniel, we were going back and
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forth, front episodes, like we have a list, and it was a battle
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for these episodes are pretty excited where we landed me, too
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me, too. Speaking of which Spencer, what
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did we watch this week? We finally watched The Matrix.
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Yeah. Oh my gosh.
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My dad was so excited when I was like, oh yeah, watching The
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Matrix for the podcast. He was like, oh my gosh, I need
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to watch that with you. So I sat down with my Dad.
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We had a lovely evening, that's so cool.
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Yeah. I've never seen The Matrix
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before. It's one of those movies were
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neither. I have to say, I was kind of
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being a little bit like a snob about it.
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I put I'll say that I love sci-fi but I've never seen The
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Matrix but for Some reason I was like why?
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No, The Matrix they were the trench coats and they do those
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cool backwards flips and stuff. Like what?
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Why do I need to see it bullet times in it like right then I
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watched it and I texted you and Daniel's like this movie is
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actually really good. I was I don't know how since
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1999 the I didn't understand the plot and it's like actually
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pretty well written story. It's a extremely well-written
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story. I would say it's extremely
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relevant right now. Very Relevant.
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Extremely a little too close for comfort relevant.
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Exactly. And like, this is one of those
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movies were because my dad's like a movie buff, he loves
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movies, right? And this is one of those movies
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when he was showing it to my older siblings.
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I was like too young to watch it.
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So I just kind of, like, missed out on it that way.
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Not that, I never wanted to watch it, but it was definitely
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one of those things. My dad was like, I was like,
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I'll show you the Matrix one day and it just never happened till
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now. And Like, I feel like, even two
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years ago, I wouldn't have appreciated it.
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The way I did write the other night watching it.
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Yeah, I don't know. I feel like it kind of became
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like a low-key Keanu Reeves fan because you never been ready.
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Oh, my goodness. That's but, can we talk about
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Carrie-Anne Moss as Trinity? I mean that I knew that was
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like, this has Elizabeth red all over this character.
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That's a baddie, literally, right?
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It at this is I watch this right after I got my hair cut and I
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was like, well, now I need to find some hair gel sweep this to
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back so that I look like Trinity.
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I have a well ex-friend. I would say whose name was
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Trinity and I briefly remember her telling me she was named
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after this character. I back then.
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I was like, okay, nerd. And now I'm like, it's pretty
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cool actually, I'm like I get it like yeah, I would do that.
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Trinity, I'm so excited. Let's get into it.
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There's a lot of great stuff to talk about.
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Yes. Spencer, you must start us off
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with a summary sir when shown that the reality, he was raised
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in was a lie. Constructed to keep humanity and
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slaved Neo sets out to bring down a matrix through the faith
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of his new friends and that is the Matrix and a very, very
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simple short. Sweet summer heat.
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We know who wrote this. Summary this week, don't we?
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Spencer, it wasn't me. If you haven't seen The Matrix,
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go watch it. I think it's on HBO Max.
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Yeah, someone of the streaming services.
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Deaf parents wheelers from here on out, and we are going to go
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behind the Wardrobe. We have directors, the witch
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house keys, Lana, and Lily, with costume designer.
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Can Barrett can Yeah, Kim's back, you will know her work
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from Romeo Juliet, which we did earlier in the season from Hell,
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which we still need to do. Spencer Monster-in-Law, Aragon
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costume designer, get Awards, nomination, The Amazing
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Spider-Man Speed Racer, which I think we should also do at some
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point. That was a childhood favorite of
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mine, Cloud, Atlas for Chico Got another costume designer Guild,
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nomination, Aquaman another costume, designer Guild
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nomination us shang-chi, and the legend of the ten Rings.
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Another costume design Guild Awards nomination.
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She's racking up those Guild nominations.
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She really is. And when talking to fashionista
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about the Matrix. Kim, Barrett said, the Matrix we
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were aspiring to what the world would become, which is Inning
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now it's so true. So depressing.
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Thank you Kim. We're going to take a little
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break before we dive back into the Matrix.
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Can't wait. I think.
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Okay, Lizabeth. Are you ready to understand our
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new reality within the Matrix? Oh you know, I am the Matrix
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metaverse. Hey I generated everything.
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How horrifying is it? How horrify is it?
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Literally I was watching this movie in bed as I told you and
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when they mentioned like how a I basically started the
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destruction of mankind, I like perked up in bed.
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I was like, wait what did I just say?
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I like I literally saw a commercial for the metaverse
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today. It was like, okay but anyways we
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have some costumes to Go out back in 1999, they weren't quite
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aware of what was going to happen just yet and can bear.
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It talked about creating the world of the mace tricks to
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fashionista saying all I thought was how can I make these worlds,
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be real and be distinctive. It was all about how to create a
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language that the audience could Clue Into what we were trying to
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do subconsciously. So in this story began.
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To reveal itself. It was already embedded in some
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way in the Consciousness, which I'm like.
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Okay. So I'm like subliminal messaging
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with the costumes. I get it.
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I get it right. If I mean, I was fooled, the
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first part of this film, I did not understand what was
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happening at all. Oh, I knew enough about the
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Matrix to know what was going on.
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Not me. I just like cuz I love when
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they're like oh we put we set The Matrix to like the height of
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your technological advancement which was 1999.
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Like, in my head, I was like, okay, but like yes, this is Peak
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90s. The Matrix is Peak 90s, very
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90s. It doesn't get more 90s than the
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Matrix. It doesn't, especially when it
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comes to Fashion can bear. It was telling glamour in our
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little bubble, trying to create a world, a distinct of world
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that wasn't really Connected to the fashion at the time.
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It was the 90s and everything was Bleak and monochromatic.
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So I think without purposefully trying to use fashion as a
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touchstone, I still subconsciously connected to it,
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which is an interesting point too because it is science
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fiction and it does in a way feel futuristic to me.
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But then, at the same time, it does still feel very 90s like
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it's grounded in that 90's sense of futuristic fashion, which is
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Really interesting. It's not an easy task to
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accomplish. I would say if you were to put
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this down on paper, like what would that look like and somehow
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Kim was able to just do it without you and kind of like
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realizing they were doing it? Yeah especially when you think
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like okay the Matrix is the height of the 90s and then the
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real world is just this small bit of humanity, outside the
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Matrix that is like struggling to survive.
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Survive, right? It's very dirty X reminded me of
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a smaller film that I love called alien where the cruise is
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very kind of dirty. There.
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We wearing the same things all the time, their whites aren't
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very white that which was a real Stark, like contrast specially.
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You know, it really rocked my world.
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Seeing a difference from the everyday world that NEOS living
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in a pop onto this ship. I was like, whoa.
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Whoa, what has happened here? Yeah, this And almost feels like
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today, like if their clothes were a little more.
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If they're closer cleaner, I'd be like, oh, I see these people,
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like, at the park like yeah. This is kind of like a good 2023
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type fashion. Almost.
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I would say, it's very contemporary, but in just like a
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standard way, not high fashion. Just like what people wear out
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of the house to go to the grocery store, right?
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When talking about the real world can set to Stuh the real
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world was a world of recycling when somebody dies.
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Their uniform gets washed and goes back in the closet of
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military clothes. Anything they have, they make
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out of recycled things that they find.
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Hmm. And that is clear, that is very
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clear. Yeah, they're definitely
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recycling things, which by the way this feels like a Gib moment
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to just talk about sustainability and fashion and
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costume design. Oh my gosh, I got I wish I knew
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where it was. I got the cutest little poster
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the other day that was all about like reusing and mending your
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clothes instead of getting rid of them.
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It's adorable. I can't I'm going to put it
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behind me at some point. I'm very excited to put it up
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because it's true. We shouldn't just be like
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throwing out our clothes when it has a little like ripping the
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seam, you can fix that. I almost threw out a pair of
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jeans and I was like, wait, these are ripped out a Place
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where I can just cut them into shorts and now, I don't have to
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worry about getting shorts. This summer fashion is such a
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major pollutant and plus, think about what happens when AI does
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take over the world and we have to start reusing or clothes.
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Like, you should start learning those skills and talents today.
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Why wait until the world's over? It'll be too late.
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Whether it's the fungus apocalypse or a, I taking over,
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we're going to need to learn how to take care of ourselves
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people, right? Moving on from The Real World
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and into the Matrix where fashion can be real fun if you
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know you're in The Matrix. Yeah, fun with fashion.
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I love that idea. That's such a fun concept, and
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Kim said about each character to fashionista.
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When they go into the Matrix. They create their Persona, which
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is how they see themselves. So, that was a chance to have a
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little bit of fun. So they're essentially creating
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avatars for themselves, if that's what we're getting at
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here, which I love like, especially like here.
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It's we have a picture up where it's Morpheus played by Laurence
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Fishburne in the foreground and he just, he has such like a
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Sleek look, but I'm like this green tie.
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Yeah. It's like, oh, he definitely
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sees himself as like, creating the future.
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Our Humanity, he loves like a big flashy Ty and I respect that
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and I like know this costume from ears, you know, of course
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when you see the context of it you're like that's super fun.
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He's oh yeah he lives in that dumpy ship so then he gets into
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the Matrix he's like and where this swagged out trench coat a
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big party tie, the sickest glasses, which I don't
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understand how to stay on his head but all of it is just
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fantastic. Oh yeah.
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And let's talk about Out those classes because they're all
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incredible. Can talked a lot to fashionista
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about these glasses saying they were commissioned by Barrett,
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from Indy designer Richard Walker, Whose Line blind design
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was then sold at high-end realtor.
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Teller is like, Barneys, New York to handcraft each pair
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since body scan technology wasn't available then each,
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Actor, had to sit through the our journalist plaster head cast
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session but Walker then fill glasses / Barrett's
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illustrations to custom fit each of the actors measurements and
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Bone structures, that. Okay, that's wild, I guess I've
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never thought about how sunglasses are made.
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Is this a regular process because that is that sounds wild
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and I love that sense of detail because I thought they would
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just go. To the store and buy some round
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glasses. No, Richard Walker is a high-end
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sunglasses. Designer creates customized
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pieces per person. And they are gorgeous.
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Yeah. I love the personalization of
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the kid, Kim said to fashionista, they wouldn't
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create a pair of sunglasses that could fit on 500 other people.
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They would create something that only fit them.
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Everything was This which it's like, yeah.
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When you're entering the Matrix, you're not thinking about what
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everybody else is wearing your like, what am I wearing?
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You're not wearing the same brand because the same Brands
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don't exist in each other's minds.
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Yeah, and she also said that they only had two to three pairs
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for each actor because quote, Richard could only work so fast
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and he handmade them all himself, that's scary.
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Usually have money. As for all these costumes.
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But if he dropped these glasses here down one out of two pairs
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of glasses, that's pretty scary, right?
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I'm like, I think there's no action in this film.
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Oh yeah. Not at all.
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No situation where they could break really easily.
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I'm like, I thought it was better.
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Have been like the cast gift to the actors.
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What are the pair's if they had? No way the process of if they
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had to sit through the process of getting like a cast of Their
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head in plaster, like it better, that better of bit.
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If I was there. I was like, I want that.
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I had to like, almost died to get these made be great, but I'm
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sure like Morpheus is glasses. Must be like, in the Smithsonian
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or some Museum, somewhere. They're just so iconic.
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I definitely definitely are or Laurence Fishburne walks around
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the house. Wearing them which would also be
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pretty cool. I think.
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I like that idea. If I were him I would be doing
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that to this day, just 20 plus years later or walking around
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any time of the day. Hey, another iconic part of the
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Matrix is the glossy glossy vinyl Fabrics that they use and
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one talking about this. Look Kim said to glamour for the
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first time I read the script, I felt like the Matrix was a
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shadow world and people would disappear and reappear.
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So they needed to have an oil slick, high-contrast reflective
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look as though you were tricked is she there?
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Is she not there. Mmm, that's a cool idea because
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it is very dark and not only can It disappear or not disappear
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but they have to pick up on camera too, which is a really
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fascinating thought I love that. Yeah, I also she also mentioned
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in like, a couple of the interviews because they had a
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very limited budget on this. And it is not a limited budget
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concept for the Matrix out at all.
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She said, because I think somebody asked her if like some
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of these costumes still existed and she wasn't sure she was
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like, they're made out of like the cheapest like vinyl fabric
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and that like that. Stuff.
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Just disintegrates over time. Right?
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Yeah, it's like we weren't thinking about the longevity of
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the costume. We were thinking about what
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could we afford and still achieve.
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The look we wanted had no idea turn into this huge huge
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franchise but yeah, 4 plus movie for movie.
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Yeah, I was obsessed if they're looks, I mean, of course a black
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trench coat look is such like an iconic look, but seen it
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actually in action. I mean, it's so cool.
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It's so sci-fi. It's Kind of like a little bit
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of nuwara a little bit its kind of goth.
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That's a little emo. It's edgy its badass at the same
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time, it I don't know how this simple black reflective look is
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able to transcend, so many different categories for me,
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it's really iconic. Absolutely, it really is.
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And it's funny because it's like, I feel like by 1999, the
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black trench coat with, in like, 90 Society, was already like
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kind of established for good and bad.
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But I feel like the Matrix almost like reset it and like,
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that's what I feel, like a lot of, like, kind of like emo goth
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kids took into the 2004. Hey, Matrix reclaimed, if the
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Matrix, reclaimed the trench coat.
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Yes. When talking about the trench
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coats can set the fashionista, they can move in an almost
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gravity-defying way, they can jump across buildings, they can
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almost fly Wanted to find a modern version of something that
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could move like a cape. So that's where the Coats were
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born. Exactly.
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Okay. That's what I was thinking.
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It felt like when they would jump from building to building.
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It did feel like it Cape almost like a superhero type moment
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that solutely pretty awesome. I'm obsessed.
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And they were really like comparing them to like a lot of
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mythological Heroes like Ajax and I always have a such a Name
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a hard time with this name, Megan on from like that Greek
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mythology, Agamemnon Agamemnon, thank you.
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Spencer, like Ajax and Agamemnon from I believe that's like,
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Greek mythology, but it really really makes them Super Heroes.
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Those jackets like that is what makes them look the superhero
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part, right. It still stands true to like
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today? Like if I were to see these
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costumes today, I wouldn't think that they were dated to me.
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No absolutely not. It's I like that they did kind
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of establish like a cool kid like you know got the look that
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is like a touchstone to today. Exactly but yeah I feel like
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that's kind of like an established look in our modern
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society that I personally. Really, really appreciate.
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I also really appreciated. The character of switch and all,
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all the female characters in The Matrix.
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This is actually like, it's it really blew my mind.
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It is such like a strong film for women.
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It feels very honest to me. I mean it was written and
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directed by women to. Right?
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So yeah, like I had no idea and that was so cool and it really
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showed in the film a switch. Such a great character and I
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love that switches wearing white to which was beyond Battey
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level. Yes.
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And I so like I love the character of switch according to
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like, the lure of the Matrix switch, was supposed to be
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gender-fluid male in the real world, female in the Matrix.
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But the studio it sounds like kind of squashed that idea.
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Oh, wow! Shocking, did that?
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At bother some people in the 90s apparently.
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Well, yeah. So we get a much more
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androgynous character in switch. And when talking about that can
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send a fashionista, people can take from it.
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What? They need to complete, the
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jigsaw puzzle. I never feel like it's my job to
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teach anyone. Anything through what people are
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wearing? Just wanted McCrory to look good
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and feel confident which it looks like she does.
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Yeah, I mean I I don't know too much about the story but if they
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felt you know, confident through this costumed and I think him
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did a brilliant job. I mean it really looked great on
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screen. I thought it was so interesting
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that against all the other cast members who were always wearing
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black, that's which was always wearing white and I just thought
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that that made switch. Doubt and such like a strong
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powerful way. Those kind of inspiring actually
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switch really carried parts of this film for me.
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I yeah, I love so much especially because which was
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kind of like the head bodyguard. I felt like for everybody else.
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So you would think like, they'd be in like darker colors.
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But no Kim put her in this bright white and I love it.
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It's just kind of puts her out there.
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All right, another strong woman character.
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We have Dude, Trinity was, I mean, yeah, incredible.
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I do not expect to like, Trinity, love Trinity, like,
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love Trinity is doing is giving very strong, Elizabeth Vibes,
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thank you. Thank you, Kim talk to clamor
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about Trinity saying. I think Trinity resonates the
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most, because she's what we want feminism to be.
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She's revolutionary. If she doesn't give up on her
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beliefs, she stands up to Convention and against those who
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are trying to take away humanity.
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And she's also super feminine and how she dresses.
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I think the strength of the women in The Matrix is being
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highlighted in the same way it's being highlighted and women in
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society today. Yeah, I think that's a great way
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to put it. She it did feel very current in
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a way that Trinity was portrayed in this film and you Her
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costumes weren't like to revealing or anything.
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I did feel like it was relying on sex appeal.
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Just felt like she was very strong but still feminine her
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silhouette still felt like she was giving her enough support to
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be able to do all these, you know, stunts and action.
27:15
So I just really felt like, Trinity not just the actress and
27:18
the character but the costume really did what had to do in
27:22
supporting Carrie Anne and she took on this character, I
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thought was really great. Yeah, absolutely.
27:29
And I just love Carrie-Anne Moss has performance because she's
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not just like, oh I'm badass all the time.
27:35
Like she like has emotion and shows that and isn't afraid to
27:39
like have faith in other people. Which I feel like strong
27:43
characters in general, they're kind of like they're always like
27:47
loners but she's like, no I'm here with other people.
27:51
We can only get through this together.
27:53
So I really appreciated that but even like her sexiest looks
27:57
which I really loved this. Fitted bodice with.
28:01
I don't know if it's piping or pleading, like, that's like her
28:05
sexiest look, but it's still very covered up.
28:07
Like, it's still not like unbelievable that she could
28:10
like, Chase somebody down in this, right?
28:13
Always, very conventional. And I loved her glasses to I
28:17
love like the round shape of her unique glasses there because
28:22
they're just so unique. They're not like regular
28:25
circular glasses. These ones have unique shape and
28:29
And I don't know, I kind of want some.
28:31
I know I'm they're like they're like if somebody squished
28:34
aviators I almost feel like I guess someone like squish them
28:39
into ovals. They can remind me of like bug
28:42
eyes in a cool way. Yeah.
28:45
But she she's definitely like I feel like the style icon.
28:50
Yes, for sure. We also have Neo played by the
28:54
incredible Keanu Reeves, which I cannot believe you were not a
28:58
Keanu Reeves Family. Anna before his to be Spencer.
29:01
I just don't, I haven't seen a lot of Keanu, Reeves films, like
29:05
the one that I think of the most is Bram Stoker's Dracula, which
29:10
not to be a hater, be it. But County Reeves isn't the best
29:13
part of that films. I did really like him in this.
29:18
So I thought he was great. I've never seen John Wick, I'm
29:21
just going to say, I've never seen John Wick, neither have I.
29:25
So then what else will be in that I missing anything?
29:29
He's in a lot. He's in one of my personal
29:32
favorite movies which is not Much Ado, About Nothing from
29:36
1994, okay? Kenneth Branagh, he plays like
29:40
the Baddie in that and then, oh my gosh, he's in this, hold on,
29:45
he's in this really adorable movie with the mom, from
29:48
stranger things, Winona Ryder? Yeah, with the banana, right?
29:54
It's not what I'd refer to as but go ahead.
29:59
First thing that popped into my head, it's like, it's like a
30:02
like, just like a silly rom-com. Destination wedding.
30:08
Okay, silly little wrong calm. Oh, that the two of them started
30:14
and it's so adorable, the movie. I'm thinking of that everyone
30:18
seen is speed. I've never seen speed.
30:20
I'm sorry. Seen speed either even speed.
30:23
Yeah. It's like one of his big movies.
30:26
Oh, my gosh. There's so many people listening
30:27
right now, they're like matching.
30:29
Their heads. If you're listening to this we
30:36
had haffley. Have you on the podcast?
30:38
So we could talk about your legendary career.
30:42
Absolutely anyway, getting back to Neo in The Matrix pectin e.
30:48
Oh sorry sir. No, I thought Keanu Reeves did
30:52
an incredible job in this film. I was like, yeah, we a fan of
30:56
his and this film I thought I did great.
30:58
I love Up until the end, his costumes kind of like morph to
31:03
what, people expect him to be, because he doesn't have a real
31:07
strong self sense of self, till the end of it.
31:11
And I really appreciated that and Kim was talking about his
31:15
character. Kind of archetype to fashionista
31:18
saying, I was trying subconsciously to braid a bunch
31:22
of ancient stories about though, one it embodies that new
31:27
strength and resolve. L've, even though he's afraid
31:31
the code gives the audience a visual feeling that Neo has gone
31:35
from being the confused acolyte into taking on his power.
31:41
While it doesn't relate to one religion or culture.
31:45
I wanted it to feel, like a special thing.
31:48
You can take upon yourself when you're trying to start the
31:52
quest. Yes.
31:54
Oh, that moment when we see Neo and Trinity, like, show up to
31:58
like that, They'll fight scene. That's a, let's go moment.
32:03
I couldn't believe they both look so good.
32:05
Neo looks like the one like I was like, oh yeah.
32:07
Yes, he is the one. Yes, I like the Orca was like, I
32:12
don't know about this guy, he showed up to that scene.
32:15
Ready to go. And I was like, yeah, team Neo,
32:17
he's such a badass, he convinced him, he's like yeah, you
32:22
convinced me to so good and yeah, I love that his suit just
32:27
feels, you know, they're all wearing I'm like these kind of
32:29
trench coat looks but his still feels very unique to him.
32:34
I think type of black on it a she it's not flashy the way the
32:38
other ones are which is what I guess makes him stand out.
32:43
Hmm and just like the length was perfect.
32:45
He's like zipping around and I love the movement of the coats
32:49
when he's doing that. The famous saying I finally was
32:51
able to see today in person when he flips backwards didn't
32:55
realize he actually gets hit in like the leg or something.
32:59
He's not unharmed but he's like, fine.
33:03
Yeah, he just kind of shook it off but yeah, it was such a cool
33:08
moment. I was thoroughly entertained and
33:12
the costume just really adds to it.
33:14
Absolutely. And with that, we have the
33:18
continuing impact, the Matrix and the glamour interview can
33:25
bear did was in 2018 when it looked like Action was really
33:31
taken a lot of influence from The Matrix.
33:34
She said to glamour, I think one of Fashion's greatest attributes
33:39
is that it can track and predict the revolution.
33:43
That's coming. I see Echoes of today in The
33:47
Matrix which I think is really cool.
33:50
It's really great to have people.
33:52
See how I saw the world and I'm happy that this movie stands the
33:56
test of time. I'm really proud to have And
33:59
part of it. Yeah.
34:00
I mean it is great. I mean, the Matrix does stand
34:04
the test of time and you can see it in today's fashion all the
34:07
time. I think that's really why I love
34:09
costume designs costume designers are like today's
34:13
influencers, but they just they influence the way people dress
34:16
and real-life Runway shows television shows films that like
34:21
aren't related to the film just costume.
34:24
Really? Just has such an influential
34:26
power and can bear. It is one of the most
34:28
influential Costume designers alive?
34:31
Yeah, can we just talk about the agents for a little bit?
34:34
How sad I was? That Hugo weaving.
34:37
Wasn't on my team. This time.
34:40
It was so sad. Someone the bad guy Spencer.
34:44
He's the bad guy from Bolsa and he looked like a bad guy to is
34:49
so unsettling. I was ready for some elrond to
34:52
save the day. As soon as I saw Hugo, I was
34:55
like oh no this agent Smith guy, I love that they made.
34:59
The agents wearing like just he's playing suits because when
35:03
I think of like the suit the way they did it it's almost like
35:06
that like that corporate suit guy who's coming to like lay
35:11
people off and make decisions for companies.
35:13
So the fact that they're just put in that plane suit.
35:16
I thought that was a really cool costume moment, you know, and I
35:20
mean, his name, says everything you need to know about him.
35:23
He's agent Smith, he's like nobody, but everybody all at the
35:27
same time. Yeah, like he is the AI, trying
35:32
to destroy everything. Like what are that?
35:35
Like, what do they I do with their free time though?
35:39
I guess just Farm humans and make batteries out of them.
35:44
I mean. Yeah.
35:45
But to what end, I guess. Yeah.
35:47
I guess that's their work. What did they do in their
35:49
recreational time? I mean probably parts of the
35:52
world to one day like Humanity like select parts of humanity
35:56
back, like absolutely not. Hey these little Squiddy robots
36:05
have their own squid robot Society where they're going.
36:09
College. And they're watching movies.
36:12
Good about, you know, why do you think they have their own Matrix
36:15
where they live like humans? I don't know, you're frying.
36:21
My brain right now. That's what I, this is my
36:25
question, which house keys. What does the major?
36:29
Maybe we need to watch the rest of the movies before we, right.
36:32
Yeah, we have like 200 more Matrix has to watch, but we'll
36:36
report back. Kate also just say that the Part
36:39
where Neo is born into the real world?
36:43
Actually like was unsettling and I text Elizabeth and Daniel then
36:46
I was like watching right now and Daniel was like just chill.
36:55
He's being born like, oh okay yeah I was like Ela.
36:59
Yeah, it's crazy. And Daniel's like he's being
37:02
reward. Oh yeah, that makes sense.
37:07
He's no longer a baby battery. That's cool.
37:09
Cool. Mmm and with that we have come
37:13
to the end of The Matrix. All right, Elizabeth are ready
37:16
to play our favorite game. Even though I have a feeling
37:19
it's probably not going to be very long.
37:22
I am Spencer. It it Daniel the one costume to
37:28
rule them all. All right.
37:34
Lisbeth what is your one costume?
37:36
Rule them all my one costume to rule them all is Trinity's,
37:40
final. Look the, Sheik vinyl tank top,
37:44
the skinny skinny pants before, skinny jeans were a thing.
37:49
The big bulky Boots, the sunglasses, the slicked-back,
37:54
hair cut. She is strong.
37:56
She is confident. And she is Chic.
38:00
What more could you want? It's so funny.
38:02
They picked us. Look because This look is the
38:05
most quintessential Elizabeth, look that I could compare it to
38:09
like Elizabeth love. The black tank top with skinny
38:12
jean, and these type of glasses and short hair.
38:15
This is Elizabeth everybody. I mean, it is, the resemblance
38:21
is uncanny and I'm kind of freaking myself out, right now,
38:24
that's a good choice. Elizabeth has definitely put
38:27
together, our look or two or that's not too far off from this
38:30
with my combat boots. Yeah.
38:32
Maybe I was just like Put in some blue jeans or something.
38:36
Dark blue jeans and it's Elizabeth my one costume, rule
38:40
them all is also Trinity. I just picked like her classic
38:44
black trench coat look from the end where she's just kicking ass
38:49
left. And right I do you know whose
38:50
ass is she's kicking. I just know that I liked it and
38:53
I could watch it all day long. Absolutely, love the movement in
38:56
her coat. I love her hair.
38:59
I mean I'm not a big gun person but just all these big-ass guns
39:03
on Her like it. All of it is just right.
39:06
I'm just such a fan, there's never a moment where you look at
39:11
Trinity. And you're like, ah, man, she
39:12
looks like she's going through it.
39:13
You just always are like, I'm gonna hang out with her because
39:16
I know I'm going to make it. Yeah.
39:18
No, you're going to make it through of Trinity's with you.
39:21
If you have a different one costume to rule them all for the
39:27
Matrix, you can hit up our voicemail at six two, six five,
39:30
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39:34
At the art of costume, lawcast at gmail.com Spencer.
39:39
What are we watching next week? I am very excited about next
39:42
week's episode because we're somehow watching another classic
39:46
sci-fi film that ya never seen before and lisbeth's kind of
39:50
seen before. Yeah.
39:53
We are talking about a classic film from the 80s, Blade Runner?
39:58
I don't know if you ever heard of it, this film has been Such
40:04
an influence on fashion and costume for decades now, and I'm
40:08
so excited to get into it. I finally saw it and I loved it.
40:13
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42:05
You don't like I think someone just knocked out.
42:07
My door is always just knock on my door.
42:13
Hey, yeah. What is it?
42:16
I do have the vacuum. It's behind the door.
42:19
Elizabeth has the vacuum I have been that the vacuum I stole it
42:25
and I just forgot to put it in its proper place.
42:32
Sorry, but we got, we probably going to make the bloopers
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Sorry, but we got, we probably going to make the bloopers