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SpongeBob is a Deceptive Entity: Egregore, Demon, or Interdimensional Being? · Paranormal Lens - A Crossroads Of Curiosities, LLC Production

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  are you ready kids aye aye captain then let's
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  investigate paranormal lens paranormal lens coming
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  up what is the fine line between meme and egregore
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  in terms of everyone talks about it and it becomes
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  real how is this topic do you guys remember like
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  the good old days when we started each episode
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  with a question yeah okay i got a question for
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  you Have you seen Spongebob? Yes. Yes. I feel
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  like everyone has. Like, on TV, sure, but I mean,
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  like, in real life. Have you seen Spongebob?
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  No. Uh, no. Are you ready, kids? Aye, aye, Captain.
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  Oh, who's this in Egregore, under the sea? Oh,
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  no. Don't be a Spongebob scaredy pants! Mm. I
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  am, though. I am. Me too. I am. I'm terrified.
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  I'm scared of where this is going. Welcome to
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  our podcast, where we take deep dives looking
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  at various topics through a paranormal lens.
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  So, let me list off Angela's credentials here.
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  She is the co -host that brought you owls, cheese
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  layers, uh... What other dumb shit has she brought
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  to this podcast? What is the topic? Yeah. I mean,
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  I feel like she's brought, she's brought a lot
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  that were like, this is going to be dumb. And
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  then it ends up being really good. Like. Yeah.
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  Like even a couple of weeks ago when we talked
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  about hierarchies, I'm like, I feel like this
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  is going to be a very dumb episode or very convoluted.
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  And it ended up being like, huh? Yeah. That's
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  a thing. Well, that's exactly my point. That's
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  my point exactly. The things that you guys think
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  are going to be boring and, like, dumb are the
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  ones that I'm, like, super hyped and, like, full
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  -on serious about. No, they're never boring.
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  It's just, like, we talk about the most serious,
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  like, just from the title alone, you're like,
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  this is going to be a serious topic. And then
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  the next week, it's like, owls are ghosts. And
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  then two weeks later, cheese. is a metaphor for
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  a ghost. Now, right now, in this episode, SpongeBob
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  is a ghost? Or is it a demon? Or is it a demon?
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  Because the shit you guys are gonna hear while
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  listening to this episode is gonna lean more
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  towards the fact that SpongeBob may be a demon.
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  Okay, but to Brianna's point, I do think this
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  is the most serious topic Angela's ever... brought
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  to the podcast. Oh, I'm full seriousness about
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  this. And not Bigfoot being the Antichrist. No.
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  That was another one I talked about. How could
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  I forget? Did she have something about, like,
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  Bitcoin, too? Probably. I wouldn't be surprised.
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  There's also, you know, the whole phase of her
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  wanting to summon Santa. Oh. And Bigfoot. read
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  something to you later anyways back on topic
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  um and you sent us a tiki talk it was by an account
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  called tmi story time as in too much information
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  story time and i think it's best if we just play
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  this and we've done this a couple times it's
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  playing like a a tiktok that we are reacting
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  to uh let's play it right now and then we'll
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  come back and talk about our thoughts and angela
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  specifically what jogged this topic idea and
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  what in this tiktok specifically like resonated
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  with you so here's this tiktok by tmi story time
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  this ghost story will have you questioning reality
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  when i was in middle school i'm at my friend's
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  house we're watching spongebob his mom storms
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  in the room grabs her remote shuts it off in
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  horror and goes you know you're not supposed
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  to be watching spongebob in the most serious
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  tone ever associated with spongebob squarepants
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  and i'm laughing like if you only knew in my
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  house we're watching the head beavis and butthead
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  aeon flux felix the cat heavy metal i'm ruining
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  your child lady and i go you can't watch why
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  can't you watch spongebob dude and he goes you
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  should ask her i was like i'm not asking i already
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  know his mom's a church going lady right then
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  i know it's in the bible you're not allowed to
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  have fun like case closed dude why would i ask
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  her and he goes no you should ask her and i was
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  like all right hey why can't we watch spongebob
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  and she goes i don't think it's appropriate to
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  talk about it and i was like oh now i need to
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  know why can't we watch spongebob and she goes
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  If I tell you, you cannot tell your parents.
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  You cannot tell your parents. And I was like,
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  okay, all right. This is way more interesting
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  than SpongeBob. The floor is yours, right? She
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  goes when Brandon, my friend, was three or four
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  months old. Great sleeper. Sleep in his crib
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  all night. Never woke up. Never had problems
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  with him. 3 a .m. one day, he wakes up screaming.
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  I run into his room. There's nothing in there.
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  There's nothing wrong. But he looks terrified.
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  Not like a baby just crying. He looks scared.
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  And I'm like, that's odd. Next night, 3 a .m.,
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  screaming. I wake up. I run in. Same pattern
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  for days. So I started to get quicker out of
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  bed. And I'd walk in there. And one day, I open
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  it. And a shadow runs out of the room and runs
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  downstairs. And I'm like, oh, no. What is going
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  on? So the next night, she set an alarm. For
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  3 a .m., she's right by the door when it's time.
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  As soon as she hears the scream, she opens the
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  door. The thing's in the room. It runs downstairs
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  into the kitchen. She chases it, wraps around
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  the corner of the kitchen wall, and she sees
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  this thing sitting on the refrigerator. It's
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  got these giant buggy eyes, this long goofy nose,
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  a yellow square body, and it's rocking back and
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  forth on the fridge going, ah! It was SpongeBob.
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  Now, she is a religious woman. She was like the
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  power of Christ. Whatever she said, she said
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  some Jesus stuff. Went away. She never had that
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  issue again. About a decade later, one day she
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  sees her child watching TV, thumbing through
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  the channels, and that fucking thing is on the
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  TV. It's a cartoon. that's the day i realized
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  that this lady who i had always seen as kind
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  of one -dimensional had a lot more going on upstairs
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  than i had previously suspected and i got a couple
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  other stories with her and they are just as crazy
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  okay so spongebob is a demon or what that that's
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  my takeaway angela what's your takeaway well
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  i don't even know if they necessarily like they
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  said it was a demon but the story was freaky
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  and let me explain why because Hold on. Let me
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  get a drink really quick. This is how the Bigfoot
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  is Antichrist started. She's like, let me take
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  a drink real quick. We're talking about the frog
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  man. Let me take a drink. Okay, so frog man,
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  fuck the frog man. Bigfoot is Antichrist. This
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  is serious, all of you. This is serious. Because
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  keep in mind, I woke up at like... 10 a .m. and
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  I was doing my normal scrolling on TikTok like
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  I do when I wake up or whatever. When was the
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  set to scene? I don't know, like two weeks ago
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  or whatever. Two weeks ago. So this is very fresh.
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  This is hella fresh. Maybe not even two weeks.
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  Maybe more like three weeks ago. It was more
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  than two weeks ago. Maybe like a month ago at
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  this point. Okay. And I was listening to this
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  because I love spooky story times like on TikTok.
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  I love listening to them. They are so entertaining.
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  People can bring in their stories and you can
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  like... hear what people these people's stories
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  are and so i was like just laying there listening
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  to it and then i realized holy fuck i experienced
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  something oh so similar to this so similar not
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  to the point like i saw with my physical eyes
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  but i had i had the worst dream this is I'm not
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  even joking when I say this was the most terrifying
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  night terror I have ever had in my whole entire
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  life. It was a demonic Patrick Starr that was
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  guarding the gates of hell. Okay, might I add,
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  Patrick Starr is a main character in Spongebob.
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  Yeah. And it was... Absolutely terrifying. I
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  remember I woke up screaming. I was covered in
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  sweat. It was terrifying. I cannot explain to
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  you the level of terror this dream gave me when
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  I had this dream. It was so vivid. It was absolutely
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  terrifying. I feel stupid saying that because
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  I don't necessarily even believe in hell or whatever.
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  Maybe at the time I did, but now I don't. But
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  whatever that was, I feel like it was some sort
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  of equivalent of, I don't know, because it was
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  absolutely terrifying. And I've never viewed
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  SpongeBob, especially Patrick Star, the same
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  since then. I don't know, whenever this was,
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  it was in high school or something. And I occasionally
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  had a few more dreams of this Patrick star, um,
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  occasionally like scattered throughout the, the
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  year or whatever. Um, but it, it really terrified
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  me. And so when I saw this TikTok and was listening
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  to it, I was in tears because I was like, when
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  I tell people this story, they just think i'm
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  so like it's still silly and really stupid but
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  i'm like they don't understand the terror that
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  was involved with this dream and it really it
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  was like bringing me to tears because i was like
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  oh my gosh there's someone else who has had a
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  terrifying experience of some sort of like scary
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  demented type um spongebob squarepants character
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  um story and so that was bringing me down a deep
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  dive of like oh my god i i don't even know i
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  don't even know like what do you guys think of
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  that can i ask you a question real quick uh -huh
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  we've already established on the podcast we we
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  briefly mentioned this patrick star encounter
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  before in some episode i think it was unfairly
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  wrapped up in some of the uh you know other uh
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  stupider topics like owls or whatever this is
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  not a stupid topic right now but like you know
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  in the past we we've definitely done some stupid
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  topics um we mentioned that you are on night
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  terror medication so you actually do take medication
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  for nightmares yeah was this before or after
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  you were medicated oh way before way before okay
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  was it was this was this one of like the inciting
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  incidents like i need to be on medication because
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  i'm dreaming about patrick star not not necessarily
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  that i wasn't dealing with like night terrors
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  on a daily um when i had this dream okay so that
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  that kind of makes it more credible because it
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  was before It was definitely an outlier at the
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  time. It was before you had nightmares. Very
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  random. I don't know. I don't even know. Because
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  this was during high school. I wasn't watching
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  Spongebob when I was in high school. I kind of
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  slowly stopped watching it in middle school.
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  So that dream was just really random to me. I
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  don't know how else to describe it. And there
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  was like... I also, I didn't say this, but there
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  was, like, also other, like, scary SpongeBob
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  creatures in that, guarding the gates of hell.
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  But they weren't, like, the main characters.
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  They were kind of like the fish, like the one
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  that screams, my leg! if you know what i'm talking
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  about kind of like i was gonna ask was it the
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  my leg character yeah like that type of character
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  like yeah that kind of looked like that but like
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  more scary um okay so when when you say scary
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  are you saying like hyper realistic scary yeah
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  it was like hyper realistic like imagine like
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  a uh a realistic version of patrick star but
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  in, like, a twisted, demonic... Kind of makes
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  me think of, like, have you seen those, like,
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  quick edits of people who take, like, a cartoon
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  character and, like, use Photoshop to crop, like,
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  faces and, like, eyes of, like, actual people
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  onto it to, like, make what it would look like
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  realistically? Yeah. So, like, that, but, like,
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  a little bit more demonic. Yeah, and scary looking.
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  I don't like that. Yeah. Well, while we're on
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  the topic of demons, let me read you something
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  here. Speaking of demons, SpongeBob has received
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  widespread critical acclaim since its release,
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  with praise given to its characters, surreal
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  humor, writing visuals, and animation. It has
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  earned a variety of awards, including six Annie
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  Awards, eight... golden real awards four emmy
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  awards two baptist children's awards and a record
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  amount of kids choice awards on the topic of
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  demons i had to say yeah i mean like well okay
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  but my point is they say demons no no demons
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  in particular or insert your favorite like deceptive
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  entity called a demon called a mimic called whatever
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  you want a shape whatever and a demon yeah these
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  these whatever entities they take on the persona
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  of something familiar i mean there's a whole
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  concept of familiars so you hear all the time
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  even um we just talked about the forest entities
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  you know they take on uh crying children right
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  to lure you in the woods oh your paternal instincts
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  instincts take place and you you want to go help
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  the child or help this the person screaming for
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  help um they take on these familiar archetypes
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  what is more familiar to an entire generation
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  than the most popular television show and a cultural
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  touchstone for an entire two generations this
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  is crossed over and a record amount of awards
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  this is literally one of the most popular tv
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  shows of all time this is everyone knows what
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  spongebob is everyone knows who spongebob is
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  even whether you're even demons rare yeah if
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  you're one even one of the rare uh kids who weren't
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  allowed to watch it as a child you still know
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  what spongebob was I'm just thinking, like, if
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  you suspend disbelief and you're like, okay,
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  these demons or deceptive entities are real and
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  they can take on the persona of familiar beings.
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  I mean, let's be real here. Just suspend disbelief.
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  Yeah, suspend disbelief. If you want to lure
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  a kid into the woods, you're not going to be
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  a crying baby. You're going to be Spongebob.
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  But do you know what's interesting about that
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  story? Like, if... Compared to an average person
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  who's not into this stuff, and they're watching
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  that video, they're just going to say this video
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  was made up, and it's probably just, like, they
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  probably were just saying that story to, like,
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  scare the child from watching Spongebob because
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  they're religious and think his brain were rotting
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  or whatever. But what's interesting is that if
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  she is telling the truth, she had, she's seen
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  this scary Spongebob. figure before or before
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  she even knew what it was a decade before the
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  show came out yeah that's that's weird that's
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  that's a subtle detail you don't pick up on but
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  it was a decade before the show came out that
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  she saw well if that's if this story is real
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  That is terrifying. It wasn't she saw this demon
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  thing and said that's Spongebob. It's she saw
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  Spongebob and said that's the demon I saw 10
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  years ago. That's the demon I saw 10 years ago
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  when you were a child. Yeah, like a baby or whatever.
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  Yeah. Wild. It's just like tapping into the whole
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  Twin Peaks thing of the writers were tapping
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  into something bigger or more spiritual than
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  what they knew at the time. Was there a collective?
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  Uh, not jargon. I guess I don't really know the
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  word. Like, not, like, um, not, like, a word
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  for demons, but, like, visuals for demons, rather.
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  Like, known sightings or whatever that resemble
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  Spongebob that they tapped into. Mm -hmm. I think
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  that's a stretch, personally, but, you know,
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  you never know. I mean, we're talking about demonic
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  Spongebob. Like, I don't think there is, like,
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  you can't say anything's too much of a stretch
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  when it comes to this topic. Yeah, okay. Just
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  saying. Also, this is, like, what, two weeks
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  before Halloween? Mm -hmm. This is, like, primetime
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  real estate for a paranormal podcast, and we're
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  spending it on Spongebob. We're spending it on
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  Spongebob. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Don't apologize.
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  It's a good topic. No, it's good. It's a really
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  good topic. This is crazy to me. What if this
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  episode comes out the week of Halloween? It actually
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  might. We were recording like two weeks before,
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  but it might. This is our Halloween special.
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  Halloween special. We're talking about Spongebob
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  and Patrick Star being demons. You guys get a
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  good representation of what's going through my
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  mind, okay? I get it on Halloween. Huh? I love
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  your brain sometimes. I gotta ask, SpongeBob
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  has had so many legendary characters, including
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  Nosferatu himself. Who would be the scariest
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  character, in your opinion, Brie, to encounter
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  as a demon? The hash -slinging slasher. No, actually,
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  like, honestly, I think the... creepiest like
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  if we're thinking back to like what we set is
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  like the mold of what these demonic creatures
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  look like if they're hyper realistic demonic
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  photoshop looking things I think probably Squidward
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  or actually Squilliam would probably be the scariest
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  The hatch -slinging slasher would probably be
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  pretty scary -looking. Like, handsome Squidward,
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  or just, like, a Squidward? Just, like, a regular
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  Squidward, but specifically Squilliam, not Squidward.
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  What about you, Ben? What would you think would
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  be most terrifying? I was gonna say, like, Plankton
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  would be a terrible demon. Like, he reminds me
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  of, like, the cockroaches, but... He's little.
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  Yeah, you know our lore about the cockroaches
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  in the closets, you know? Yeah, yeah. But Handsome
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  Squidward? Not Squidward. Handsome Squidward.
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  Handsome Squidward. But he'd be so handsome.
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  That's what gets you. That's like a Jeffrey Dahmer
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  of demons, you know? Oh, jeez. Anyway, do you
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  guys have anything else you want to say? Because...
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  Yes. I want... What? So... no i just there's
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  there's something you want to go to the comments
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  don't you i want to go to the comment we'll save
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  those next because first i mentioned like the
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  whole demon thing or deceptive entity i like
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  the term deceptive entity i just came up with
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  it while recording yes i came up with it during
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  this recording okay so deceptive entity theory
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  of you want to trick people and lure people places
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  and Have people pretend you're a nice, sweet,
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  innocent entity. You're going to be Spongebob.
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  You're going to be someone familiar. We even
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  know entities. Even our beloved Jocks knows pop
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  culture. He knows Gravity Falls. And Ghost Adventures.
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  And Sam and Colby. And Spongebob and Colby. Spongebob
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  and Colby. No. Hashtag Spongebob and Colby. The
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  other direction this can go is everyone knows
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  Spongebob. If you think about the theory of egregores,
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  do you think... If you aren't listening to this
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  podcast, or if you're listening to this podcast,
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  you know what egregores are at this point. If
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  you don't, please rewatch and listen to some
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  of our podcasts or look it up. Yeah. Just, like,
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  throw a dart. And I feel like one in every three
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  mentions Egregores at some point. Yeah. But what
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  is the fine line between meme and Egregore in
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  terms of everyone talks about it and it becomes
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  real? What is this topic? The line between meme
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  and Egregore is not anything I thought would
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  ever come out of this podcast. No, but wait,
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  Ben. That doesn't make sense! There are so many
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  limited people who have the same experiences,
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  and I will get into this when I read the comments,
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  that have the same limited experiences as, like,
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  these scary SpongeBob creatures that they have
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  encountered. How is that an egregore? This isn't
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  a wide -known thing. I'm not saying it's an egregore
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  in the traditional sense. However, it is odd
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  to me that SpongeBob... We believe heavily in
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  egregores. I think all of us believe in the concept
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  of egregores, that these thought forms can carry
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  on a personality of their own. And you see all
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  the time, fiction writers actually encounter
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  egregores of their characters. So fictional characters
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  being egregores is not a foreign concept at all.
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  What happens then, that when the most famous
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  fictional character of all time, this is the
• 24:48
  Mickey Mouse of two generations. What happens
• 24:51
  when that is released into the wild? Could there
• 24:54
  be a corrupted, demonic version of it that terrorizes
• 24:59
  others? Just where my head went. Good question.
• 25:07
  That is a good question. I mean, do you think
• 25:12
  at the baseline people could encounter Spongebob
• 25:15
  in real life? Just take the demon stuff out of
• 25:18
  it for a moment. Could Spongebob be an egregore
• 25:22
  to some people? it might be i want to say no
• 25:29
  just because it is a cartoon and most people
• 25:33
  know that cartoons aren't real so to believe
• 25:36
  in it to think because like the thing with egregores
• 25:39
  is like so many people believe in it it becomes
• 25:42
  like a real thing and i'm like But it's a cartoon.
• 25:47
  Like people know cartoons aren't real, but also
• 25:50
  at the same time, not all kids know that cartoons
• 25:52
  are real. So it could be kind of like the Bloody
• 25:55
  Mary effect where like so many kids believe that
• 25:57
  it's real, that it becomes a real thing. Yeah.
• 26:00
  You know, Brie, I have a really, I was thinking
• 26:02
  about this earlier. I have a question for you.
• 26:04
  Oh boy. Because I was thinking, there's really
• 26:07
  like two shows I feel like for. that span these
• 26:11
  same two generations in terms like memes and
• 26:14
  cultural like that take a hold on the the cultural
• 26:17
  sensation spongebob and the office and why do
• 26:24
  you i think it's more realistic to think that
• 26:27
  there's spongebob egregores and office egregores
• 26:31
  because like do you think a show like the office
• 26:34
  would spawn egregores like it's just like the
• 26:36
  actors just in the room with you it's like you
• 26:39
  know that's not a a ghost you know like is there
• 26:42
  something to like this being a very not real
• 26:44
  thing already yeah i don't know that's a realistic
• 26:51
  office experience yeah well because i was gonna
• 26:55
  say because i feel like i feel like more more
• 26:57
  people would think like if they're clueless would
• 27:02
  think that maybe that the office is based off
• 27:05
  of like something actually real and it is actual
• 27:08
  video from people working in an office and so
• 27:14
  maybe there is more egregores of the office but
• 27:18
  i i don't know you think you think so there's
• 27:21
  like egregores of the office characters i potentially
• 27:24
  i don't know that's i mean it's a silly question
• 27:28
  because No, it's actually not silly, actually.
• 27:32
  I wouldn't think there's egregores of either,
• 27:35
  but also I'm that person who knows that those
• 27:38
  characters aren't real and don't believe that
• 27:41
  they're real. But also I feel like the thing
• 27:46
  with egregores too is like you're putting your
• 27:50
  energy and belief that something is real and
• 27:54
  that it is something that you will encounter.
• 27:57
  Whereas like... People see these characters on
• 28:02
  shows such as Spongebob or The Office, and it's
• 28:05
  like, well, Spongebob, if we believe they're
• 28:08
  real, or, like, we're not going to encounter
• 28:12
  them. They're in the ocean. Trying to place characters
• 28:16
  from shows and say, oh, there could be egregores
• 28:19
  out there, it falls in a different category from,
• 28:22
  say, like, The Hat Man or... uh slenderman or
• 28:27
  like these these creatures that people think
• 28:32
  could be out there and are afraid of they might
• 28:35
  encounter you know you kind of get what i'm saying
• 28:38
  makes perfect sense yes and i can agree i i do
• 28:42
  agree with that actually yeah uh but one final
• 28:45
  question before we go to the comments that angela
• 28:47
  has been wanting to share one final question
• 28:51
  yeah do you believe let's say i believe so strongly
• 28:56
  in spongebob and create an egregore spongebob
• 29:01
  for me do you think that creates an entity that's
• 29:04
  then out there of a spongebob egregore that others
• 29:08
  can experience or do you think like everyone
• 29:12
  individually has to believe in it in order to
• 29:15
  experience it even if it already exists out there
• 29:17
  if that makes any sense i don't know i don't
• 29:21
  i want to say if you believe enough, you could
• 29:28
  potentially interact with it in the sense that
• 29:32
  it is in your own mind. But I don't believe if
• 29:37
  only you believe in it that other people may
• 29:40
  interact with it. Okay, so you think an individual
• 29:44
  can create an egregore for themselves, but it
• 29:47
  takes a collective to create one that can be
• 29:50
  communicated with. Potentially, yes. Maybe. I
• 29:55
  don't know. So this whole thing is throwing me
• 29:58
  off because I don't think there are egregores
• 30:01
  of TV show characters out there. I don't think
• 30:04
  that's a thing. I don't know about that! Because
• 30:07
  there could be creatures out there that like...
• 30:15
  I don't know where I'm going with this. What's
• 30:18
  the difference between Slenderman and Spongebob?
• 30:22
  They're both fictional characters. i okay so
• 30:26
  i think we will have we have to come back to
• 30:29
  this topic a lot of these comments i am going
• 30:35
  to be reading will bring these these topics up
• 30:39
  that we are talking about okay good yeah this
• 30:41
  gets the comments in i know i know you're antsy
• 30:43
  my brain is hurting at this point let's over
• 30:46
  spongebob this is spongebob i had a long day
• 30:51
  okay We also had a long day. In a different sense.
• 30:57
  Come home from work and have to think about Spongebob
• 31:02
  being a demonic creature who could potentially
• 31:04
  be an egregore. It are like TV characters. Could
• 31:09
  they be egregores? This is not something I was
• 31:12
  actually prepared for coming into this episode
• 31:14
  today. I thought we were going to just like,
• 31:16
  I don't know. I had no expectations. We always
• 31:20
  underestimate Angela's topics. All right, people,
• 31:26
  you ready for this? Because you're going to get
• 31:27
  your mind blown with some of these. Or it's going
• 31:30
  to go down a deep rabbit hole with some of these
• 31:32
  comments. Oh, dear God. With ideas. Okay, first,
• 31:37
  I need to start off with my comment, though.
• 31:40
  Because I did comment on this video. You left
• 31:41
  a comment? Did you get any likes or comments
• 31:45
  on it? I got five likes. Wow, good job. Anyway,
• 31:49
  this is what I said. And keep in mind, I don't
• 31:51
  comment on TikTok videos. So this really left
• 31:54
  an imprint on me. I think I only left a comment
• 31:57
  on three other TikTok videos. And that was just
• 32:02
  me commenting a picture of my dog. Your first
• 32:07
  comment with words was yesterday. This one. It's
• 32:10
  this one. Yeah. Okay, I'll read it to you guys
• 32:14
  really quick. I had a similar experience with
• 32:16
  a demonic Patrick star in a dream. It was the
• 32:19
  creepiest nightmare I've ever had, and I never
• 32:22
  viewed the show the same way again. This story
• 32:24
  officially makes me question the show, and now
• 32:26
  I'm terrified. LOL. Okay. Yeah, sounds pretty
• 32:35
  normal. Yeah, yeah. For me. Okay, so this is
• 32:38
  the first one. I got a few, but we can go through
• 32:43
  them pretty fast, I feel like. But a lot of them
• 32:46
  are pretty important. Anyway, this is the first
• 32:49
  one. This freaks me out. My daughter was in the
• 32:52
  shower and started screaming and crying. I ran
• 32:56
  in and she was pale and she said she saw Spongebob
• 32:59
  walk across the bathroom. She said he was making
• 33:02
  a weird face but knew it was him. She was like
• 33:06
  10 and had never acted scared like this before.
• 33:09
  Still don't know what it was, but this adds more
• 33:11
  questions. Dot, dot, dot. I'm sorry, I was telling
• 33:18
  Angela this off camera. Spongebob is 100 % more
• 33:22
  scary than Patrick Star. Oh, yeah. If I'm in
• 33:28
  the shower and I just see Patrick being like,
• 33:30
  Ooh, hello, guy! I'd be like, shut up. But if
• 33:35
  I see Spongebob just like... Being, like, a little
• 33:39
  devil, I'd, like, be scared. Yeah. This person
• 33:44
  says... His creepy, scary laugh. Yeah. I could
• 33:49
  not. I could not. Anyway, this person says, you
• 33:52
  know, this is the second time I've heard a similar
• 33:55
  story. So, like, huh? Are you telling me you've
• 33:59
  heard another scary Spongebob scary story before?
• 34:03
  Or something similar? Because, like, what the
• 34:05
  fuck? I looked it up, and there's, like, Reddit
• 34:08
  threads, too, about it. Like, people do encounter,
• 34:11
  allegedly, like, scary Spongebob dreams or, you
• 34:15
  know, encounters in real life. It's terrible.
• 34:18
  It really makes you think. Well, for me, especially
• 34:20
  because I've had experience in something like
• 34:23
  this before. But, okay, I do want, this is a
• 34:27
  good place to, like, just briefly mention the
• 34:29
  flip side of our, you know, everyone knows about
• 34:31
  Spongebob. It could be an egregore. argument
• 34:34
  the counter argument would be everyone knows
• 34:37
  spongebob so it might be just on your mind it's
• 34:40
  subconsciously if you're having a nightmare you
• 34:43
  might have spongebob be the the entity or the
• 34:46
  the character you projecting your nightmare on
• 34:48
  type of thing psychologically i feel like that
• 34:52
  makes sense why would i be dreaming about it
• 34:54
  like into high school when i haven't watched
• 34:57
  it since like late elementary and early i'm not
• 35:00
  talking about you i'm talking about these people
• 35:02
  in general like the one story was like a 10 year
• 35:05
  old that was taking a shower and was scared she
• 35:07
  saw spongebob running by who knows was spongebob
• 35:09
  on the tv was she just you know having a bad
• 35:12
  day a lot of anxiety projecting that those fears
• 35:15
  onto spongebob maybe she was watching the halloween
• 35:18
  special with nosferatu or something i mean you
• 35:21
  never know you really never know Alright, this
• 35:26
  is the same type of thing. This person says,
• 35:28
  not Spongebob, but the Red Devil thing from Ren
• 35:31
  and Stimpy. My daughter saw it in her room, and
• 35:35
  then several years later, saw it on Ren and Stimpy
• 35:38
  and freaked out. And it's before they saw the
• 35:41
  cartoon itself, which actually kind of adds some
• 35:43
  credibility to it. Maybe. maybe like you can
• 35:48
  you because nowadays especially like we can always
• 35:51
  be like oh yeah i've never seen that show but
• 35:53
  like we're constantly we're in the age of technology
• 35:57
  and we are seeing clips of things constantly
• 36:00
  of like different shows different movies things
• 36:03
  that were like oh we've never seen that before
• 36:05
  we can easily say oh we've never watched that
• 36:08
  but Probably 60 % of the time we've seen some
• 36:11
  sort of clip online. Yeah, it could have been
• 36:14
  in the background. You could have seen a clip
• 36:16
  of it online. You never know. There could be
• 36:18
  a lot of factors leading into this. And hindsight
• 36:21
  bias. It works both ways. You could see Spongebob
• 36:25
  and then be like, oh, that was the thing I saw
• 36:27
  10 years ago, even though 10 years have passed
• 36:29
  and it has zero resemblance other than being
• 36:32
  a square. A square is a common shape, you guys.
• 36:36
  It doesn't mean it's Spongebob. Yeah. There's
• 36:39
  just a theme of kids seeing scary or waking up
• 36:42
  seeing scary things in their nightmares. And
• 36:45
  then their parents being like, okay, calm down,
• 36:48
  Bob. Well, that was nothing. It was just a dream.
• 36:49
  And then years later showing them, you know,
• 36:51
  Cartoon Network or Nickelodeon and their nightmares
• 36:54
  actually like a TV show now. Yeah. And it's like,
• 36:57
  huh? This person says, assuming we live in the
• 37:02
  multiverse, there should be infinite variations
• 37:05
  of literally anything we can think of, including
• 37:09
  an interdimensional Spongebob eggwork war slash
• 37:12
  demon. I've seen enough impossible shit that
• 37:16
  I would believe someone that told me this experience.
• 37:20
  They should listen to this episode. I feel like
• 37:22
  we used half of those buzzwords already. Yep.
• 37:26
  I was like, oh my god, we're already talking
• 37:29
  about that. That's so funny. Can your second
• 37:32
  comment ever on TikTok be replying to that guy
• 37:35
  saying, listen to Paranormal Lens? I feel like
• 37:39
  these are all just reiterating points we made
• 37:41
  before, which is interesting that people are
• 37:44
  coming to these same conclusions. Exactly. Even
• 37:47
  without a podcast. So what are our final takeaways
• 37:50
  here? Where do we land on this? We can read comments
• 37:55
  all day long, but has this changed our mind at
• 37:57
  all about Spongebob? I know it has for you, Ange.
• 37:59
  What about you, Bree? I mean, not really. I do
• 38:04
  like the coined phrase, a deceptive entity, though.
• 38:10
  I do like that that has come out of this podcast
• 38:13
  today. In the same boat, I like the thought of
• 38:17
  a lot of these concepts. I like the thought of
• 38:20
  a lot of them. My brain is like, it's Spongebob.
• 38:24
  like yeah but also like isn't it odd to you like
• 38:29
  this is just like where i land i don't believe
• 38:31
  a lot of this stuff but i think it's odd that
• 38:35
  us i mean think back nine years ago when we first
• 38:39
  met do you think nine years later we'd be comparing
• 38:42
  spongebob to you know demonic thought form entities
• 38:46
  and like this is very strange you can draw that
• 38:49
  parallel and actually is somewhat coherent you
• 38:53
  know Yeah, no. I got... I'm thinking nine years
• 39:00
  ago, Bree, at MSU in college, what I'd be doing
• 39:06
  right now, and I'd be, like, getting ready for
• 39:10
  the MSU paranormal, like... archaeology tour,
• 39:15
  whatever we did in October. Every year. They
• 39:19
  don't have the balls to talk about Spongebob.
• 39:22
  No, they don't have the balls to talk about Spongebob
• 39:24
  being an egregoric, thought -formed, demonic
• 39:28
  creature, but we do now. We graduated. We grew
• 39:35
  balls. Thanks for listening to this week's episode
• 39:46
  of Paranormal Lens. I got one more point I want
• 39:49
  to make. I got one more point I want to make.
• 39:51
  I'm sorry. Okay, so. Okay. So do you know how
• 40:01
  there's like a theory or not necessarily a theory,
• 40:04
  but some people who write books or do TV shows,
• 40:10
  they do like ceremonies or like, or not ceremony,
• 40:15
  but stuff. or take mushrooms to get inspirations
• 40:19
  for an idea or something like that. Sure, yeah.
• 40:24
  Did Stephen King write all of his books high
• 40:27
  or something? Yeah, one of them for sure. He
• 40:32
  was high on cocaine the whole time. The person
• 40:34
  who wrote Alice in Wonderland was definitely
• 40:38
  high the whole time. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 40:43
  But do you know how they say... When you're on
• 40:47
  shrooms, that you're connecting with spirits
• 40:49
  and that you can see spirits. What happens is
• 40:55
  Spongebob was based off a mushroom high of some
• 41:00
  sort. A hallucinogenic, an induced hallucinogenic
• 41:06
  episode. Yeah, and this is where they got the
• 41:09
  inspiration from Spongebob from. You know what?
• 41:12
  I could entirely see that. Yeah, 100 % it was
• 41:15
  Spongebob. I bet somebody got like super high
• 41:20
  on mushrooms and was like watching their fish
• 41:23
  tank and they're like, what if these fish were
• 41:28
  like people? What if this squid was like handsome?
• 41:39
  What if this Patrick was like star? What if this
• 41:43
  starfish could - talk what if this spongebob
• 41:50
  was a workaholic and could cook cook could cook
• 41:56
  what if he could cook what if he could cook but
• 42:03
  do you know but do you know how they say like
• 42:06
  if you're on shrooms you can like yeah yeah interact
• 42:10
  with spirits or whatever and allegedly allegedly
• 42:14
  i never done that To the point I'm connecting
• 42:18
  with spirits, at least. But... Did they connect
• 42:26
  with a Spongebob spirit? I mean, it's entirely
• 42:30
  possible. Like, what? There could have been a
• 42:33
  Spongebob spirit in their fish tank. Hallucinating
• 42:36
  enough on Spongebob to see, like, to get the
• 42:39
  inspiration of the Spongebob show. Is this a
• 42:44
  spirit? And is this why... so many other people
• 42:48
  have seen it because it's already a spirit and
• 42:51
  they just connected with it on shrooms or something
• 42:53
  oh my god there's another comment one second
• 42:56
  one second i need to find it where is it where
• 43:02
  is it where is it you you won't regret this one
• 43:06
  hold on i know a podcast that never ever ends
• 43:10
  never ever end shut up this this is important
• 43:13
  this is important Welcome, everyone, to Paranormal
• 43:18
  Lens. God, where is it? Oh my god, I can't find
• 43:28
  it. But I know for a fact... We got time, if
• 43:32
  you want to search for it. Okay, hold up, hold
• 43:34
  up. Please stand by. Please stand by. Let me
• 43:37
  look for it really quick. One eternity later.
• 43:40
  I'm just gonna take a quick nap. It was about
• 43:43
  summoning SpongeBob, and there's people who do
• 43:45
  this. Not your next idea, Angela. You're not,
• 43:52
  no. You gotta keep her from summoning Santa,
• 43:57
  Bigfoot, and now SpongeBob? She's the liability.
• 44:06
  Yeah. I think she needs to have a meeting with
• 44:09
  HR to go over some rules. Some rules. Some workplace
• 44:20
  regulations. If you had to pick one, what would
• 44:25
  you rather? Would you rather Angela summon Santa
• 44:28
  or Spongebob? Spongebob. I'd rather Santa. Well,
• 44:36
  if she tries to summon Santa, I feel like she'd
• 44:39
  accidentally summon Satan. You know, the spellings
• 44:44
  are so close. That's why she's not allowed to
• 44:47
  do it. I honestly can't find it, but I know for
• 44:53
  a fact. I know for a fact I read this on here.
• 44:58
  We've been waiting for like 30 minutes. You better
• 45:00
  find this comment. I was reading it to you on
• 45:03
  the couch. When? Well, on here. Like, we were
• 45:08
  sitting on the couch together. Not while recording.
• 45:11
  No, not while recording. Are you sure this didn't
• 45:15
  happen in a different dimension? It was a dream.
• 45:18
  In a different timeline? Yeah, different timeline.
• 45:21
  Oh, I found it! I found it! Okay. So, look, man.
• 45:27
  I don't know, but I've heard some stuff about
• 45:30
  Spongebob. For real. I was actually on here yesterday,
• 45:34
  and there was a girl talking about Spongebob
• 45:37
  and how you can supposedly summon Spongebob.
• 45:40
  Because I guess this is a real thing. I think
• 45:43
  Spongebob is like a real demon. For real. That
• 45:48
  was the whole comment. Yes. oh okay so sure i
• 45:55
  mean you you can summon anything you know so
• 45:58
  i think we're gonna summon spongebob next no
• 46:01
  no no just because you can summon anything doesn't
• 46:04
  mean you should no i think we need to have an
• 46:09
  hr meeting and go over some regulations and rules
• 46:12
  and maybe some osha standards a few moments later
• 46:17
  we should summon spongebob on a tiktok live Thanks
• 46:24
  for listening to this week's episode of Paranormal
• 46:26
  Lens. If you liked what you heard, every five
• 46:28
  -star rating and positive review tells the algorithms
• 46:31
  we're a worthy podcast and pushes us out to more
• 46:34
  listeners. We appreciate each and every one of
• 46:37
  you, and we'll see you next Thursday for another
• 46:39
  paranormal deep dive.