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ROR 191: Getting Old in Prison · Red Onion Randy - Life in a Supermax Prison

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  Speaker 1: Hello, this is a prebate call from and if the
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  Speaker 1: present Department of Correction read an in state prison to
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  Speaker 1: accept this, all press zero. This is Randall bab Aka
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  Speaker 1: Read on you, Randy. I'm currently serving one thousand, two
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen years for capital murder and on robbery
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  Speaker 1: now and finally at a level three fucking air correctional center.
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  Speaker 1: everybody read on your Randy again. Day's episode. Well, I'll
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  Speaker 1: approach you fifty years old, fifty fricking years old man
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  Speaker 1: currently forty seven, so you know three more ago, done
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  Speaker 1: thirty five years in the prison system, you know, juvenile
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  Speaker 1: an adult seven, juvenile twenty eight adult something like that.
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  Speaker 1: My damn mask correct, and well I don't so much
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  Speaker 1: have to worry about it. Anymore, you know, being at
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  Speaker 1: uh Buckingham Down and with it being you know, not
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  Speaker 1: just hand but it being a Virginia model or you know,
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  Speaker 1: the incidentive prison. He's basically a freaking retirement home for prisoners,
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  Speaker 1: is what it is like. When there's so many old
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  Speaker 1: guys here. That's crazy. I'm approaching fifty and I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about old guys, you know, like you have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of guys here that are freaking sixty five seventy years old,
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  Speaker 1: if not older. I mean, there's a guy here he
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  Speaker 1: works old. He's an old white guy that works over
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  Speaker 1: in the visitation room on the weekends and everything. And
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  Speaker 1: he did ten years in the Wall, got transferred from
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  Speaker 1: the Wall, and the Wall was one of the deadliest,
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  Speaker 1: most violent prisons in freaking prison history. It might not
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  Speaker 1: have been the worst, but I guarant dantee you it
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  Speaker 1: was in the top five. If not, no excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: it was it was. It was in the top ten.
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  Speaker 1: Knock the top five. Sorry, I was about to say
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  Speaker 1: that ass backwards like the Wall was and the Wall
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  Speaker 1: was wall Brough. You know, yeah, that was a brutal person.
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  Speaker 1: That was a violing prison right there. Let me tell you,
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  Speaker 1: I grew up hearing stories about the Wall years. And
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  Speaker 1: he's done thirty seven years here, forty seven years in person,
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  Speaker 1: ten years in the wall, thirty seven years at Buckingham,
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  Speaker 1: Like that has to be a record. That absolutely has
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  Speaker 1: to be the person who has stayed in one prison
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  Speaker 1: the longest. Like I know, I did more time it
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  Speaker 1: read onion than any other in me, but like not
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  Speaker 1: even close to approaching thirty seven years. That's almost four
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  Speaker 1: decades in one person. That's insane right there. And that's,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, they just denied his parole. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: said that old man seventy some years old, he's too
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  Speaker 1: old to go I mean, he's too violent to go home.
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  Speaker 1: And this dude ain't got a charge, don't allow long
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  Speaker 1: he's done nothing but too violent to go home. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's the Virginia Parole boys right there for you, Thanks
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  Speaker 1: Patricia West. But this episode is not really about that.
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  Speaker 1: It's uh, it's the difference between being fifty years old
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  Speaker 1: in person and being twenty years old in prison. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's a thirty year time gap. Thirty decades. That's a
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  Speaker 1: growing ass man's lifespan right there. And thankfully I don't
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  Speaker 1: really I mean I do have to deal with some
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  Speaker 1: younger guys. You know, they have a few of them here.
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  Speaker 1: There's not a whole lot. Usually the guys here mostly
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  Speaker 1: in their thirties and above. You got some that are
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  Speaker 1: in their twenties, and you got a couple that are uh.
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  Speaker 1: I think you've got two guys next door. This big
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  Speaker 1: white guy named Steve, he's like freaking six foot five,
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  Speaker 1: six six. He's got a little size to him. He's
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  Speaker 1: still young boy though, like he's I think he's nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: And he got a young Spanish guy named Dean about
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  Speaker 1: my size, a little bit stockier though I also think
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  Speaker 1: he's nineteen or he just turned twenty. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: they juvenile life, you know, they they've done to you
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  Speaker 1: in our time, and then they come straight to the
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  Speaker 1: prison system. But they got blessed because they hit it
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  Speaker 1: at the right time with the Virginia model. So instead
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  Speaker 1: of taking them to the mountains or blah blah blah,
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  Speaker 1: they looked at guys in the system that were four
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  Speaker 1: years charge three and because they come to the adult
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  Speaker 1: system and they was in not away at receiving, they
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  Speaker 1: got blessed and they hit straight here. And like this
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  Speaker 1: camp is fricking as sweet as it can be. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's things here to suck. Don't get me wrong,
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  Speaker 1: There's things here I could easily complain about. I try
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  Speaker 1: not to because I have perspective and I know what
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  Speaker 1: happens on the other side of the on the other
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  Speaker 1: side of the state. But if I was on the
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  Speaker 1: other side of the state and I was in the
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  Speaker 1: pod fifty years old, dealing with a bunch of young
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  Speaker 1: ass dudes, not even necessarily gang magers, but you know
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  Speaker 1: you have you have a lot of them too, But
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  Speaker 1: even just young dudes, man, they can be a shindful
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  Speaker 1: to deal with. And it's not that I'm scared of them.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, hell, I thank my track record for violence
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  Speaker 1: has proven it self steady for a long time now,
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  Speaker 1: Like I do have a reputation for a reason in
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  Speaker 1: his place, even though I haven't done anything in quite
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  Speaker 1: a long time. And I'm not that guy anymore. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be that guy anymore. So let me
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and stress that in case you think you
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  Speaker 1: know I'm hell, I don't even know how to say
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I'm not blowing smoke up. Anyone's
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  Speaker 1: asked it is what it is. But sometimes, man, the
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  Speaker 1: young guys, they're emotional. You know, they don't know how
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  Speaker 1: to think. They're fresh off the streets for the most part.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they don't really know what prison life is about.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they're coming in and they got this chip
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  Speaker 1: on their shoulder. They're coming in and you know, they
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  Speaker 1: got youth on their side, they got ignorance on their side.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they thinking because they're in the flower of
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  Speaker 1: their youth that you know, that makes them bad ass.
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  Speaker 1: They're young, they're strong, their blood's flowing. Things are good
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  Speaker 1: for them. You know. They don't need fired but to
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  Speaker 1: get their little something up. And they see the old
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  Speaker 1: heads like me, and you know, sometimes they are They
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  Speaker 1: don't have respect for that. They don't have respect for
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  Speaker 1: the thirty five years that I put in the system.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have the respect for the seven years in
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  Speaker 1: juvenile They don't have the respect for being king of
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  Speaker 1: the white boys at Gladiator School. They don't have respect,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for what I did back in the day. Man,
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  Speaker 1: that was good that they knew I heard you. You're
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  Speaker 1: nesul creaking when they walk they don't understand I'm still
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  Speaker 1: here and there are no scars on my face, and
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  Speaker 1: I have plenty of pay for working through that. I've
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  Speaker 1: been in fights that I ain't been ducking, and I
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  Speaker 1: ain't never done time enough PC. We're old in prison
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  Speaker 1: for a reason. That's because we were strong enough and
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  Speaker 1: tough enough to survive this. We was able to live
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  Speaker 1: through it, and we didn't come up in prison. Man,
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  Speaker 1: like it is now, like, yeah, the system is going
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  Speaker 1: back to that. It's getting crazy again. CEO just got murdered.
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  Speaker 1: CEO's are getting stabbed. Dudes are taking off on them
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  Speaker 1: left and right, especially in the mountains. You know, gangs
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  Speaker 1: are fighting each other. Help gangs are fighting their own games.
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  Speaker 1: About the only thing that hasn't happened is a race war.
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  Speaker 1: Like you haven't had the white supremacist going against the
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  Speaker 1: black game. Yeah, Like it's you know, like that's about
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  Speaker 1: the only thing that hasn't happened. You know, Rapes in
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  Speaker 1: Virginia have actually picked up a little bit from what
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  Speaker 1: I've been hearing, has actually becoming a somewhat common occurrence. Yeah, well, man,
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  Speaker 1: it don't host compared to the nineties, compared to the eighties,
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  Speaker 1: with some of these guys were doing time. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: do time in the eighties. I started doing my time
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety and I've been doing it ever since,
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  Speaker 1: you give or take a few months here or there
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  Speaker 1: as a juvenile. And that's the main difference, man, between
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  Speaker 1: being fifty or turning fifty in a couple of years
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  Speaker 1: and being twenty years old. You know, I've lived through it,
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  Speaker 1: they haven't, you know. So it's such a juxtaposition between experience,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what it boils down. And the crazy thing
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  Speaker 1: is when you talk to some of them every now
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  Speaker 1: and then you get a young guy that listens every
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  Speaker 1: now and then, you get it. Your young guy is
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  Speaker 1: smart enough to actually think, you know what this might
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  Speaker 1: actually know what he's talking about, you know, And it
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  Speaker 1: always helps. Man, I don't care who you are in prison,
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  Speaker 1: you have someone that you trust, including me. I have
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  Speaker 1: a few guys that I trust their work because I've
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  Speaker 1: seen them and I've been around them long enough to
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  Speaker 1: know that their word actually means something to them. Go
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  Speaker 1: ask like, if you're a young guy, but if you're
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  Speaker 1: out there listening to me and you've got a young
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  Speaker 1: and in the prison system, let them know that. Look, man,
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  Speaker 1: when you when you when you listen to an old guy,
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  Speaker 1: and he's giving you some wisdom, like he's telling you
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  Speaker 1: some truth. Man, he's telling you about the system. He's
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  Speaker 1: he's trying to help you navigate so you don't make
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  Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes that he made and had to
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  Speaker 1: pay the price that he had to pay. Well, you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to listen to them straight out the gate. Look, man,
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  Speaker 1: go find some guys that you trust, that you know
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  Speaker 1: their word is good, that they're not petty. Because this
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  Speaker 1: is the thing. There's guys in this system man that
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  Speaker 1: I despise, that I dislike. However, if you come ask
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  Speaker 1: me a question about him, I'm going to give you
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  Speaker 1: the truth. I want to tell you this, Katy. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I don't like mobility, you know I don't. I never have.
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  Speaker 1: I respect the man. I respected the fact that he
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  Speaker 1: had heart. I respect the fact that he had balls
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  Speaker 1: and he would fight anyone, anytime, anywhere and didn't give them.
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  Speaker 1: The man was seventy some years old, still fighting in
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  Speaker 1: the mountains, and I will tell you that. So you
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  Speaker 1: got to make sure that the person you get this
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  Speaker 1: info from isn't petty. Because some guys that you might
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  Speaker 1: trust them, but just because you trust them doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: you should trust them, so you actually have to test
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  Speaker 1: them do little things. You know, I'll actually go to
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  Speaker 1: somebody and say, hey, look man, I'm going to test
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  Speaker 1: so and so. So I'm going to sit there and
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  Speaker 1: tell them this about you. Nothing is super bad, Like
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to go and say hey to you
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  Speaker 1: will brust It's just to see if it gets back
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  Speaker 1: to you, because I want to test it. I will
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  Speaker 1: never put that bone on anyone. Don't do those students
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  Speaker 1: fight that. But you know, I'll sit there and do something.
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  Speaker 1: I'll come up with something that's enough of a thing
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  Speaker 1: for him to go running behind my back and say
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  Speaker 1: something to this guy if he's if he's built like that,
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  Speaker 1: or to see if he's gonna keep it to himself,
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  Speaker 1: or to see if he's gonna tell somebody else, and
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  Speaker 1: that person's gonna go tell this person. But I've already
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  Speaker 1: set it up in advance, just so i can find out, Man,
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  Speaker 1: is this person trustworthy? Is this person legit? If you're
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  Speaker 1: the type of guy to take what I said and
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  Speaker 1: add something to it, he's gonna keep to himself. So
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  Speaker 1: go find out. Man. If you're a young guy, just
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  Speaker 1: watch sit back, and watch sit back and see How
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  Speaker 1: does this man operating? How does he treat everybody, no
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  Speaker 1: matter who they are? Does he treat people with respect?
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  Speaker 1: Is he always polite? Does he help people when he can?
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  Speaker 1: Little things like that are an indication of a person's character.
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  Speaker 1: Is he gossipied? When you're around this guy, he always
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  Speaker 1: talking about somebody else? That right there is a very
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  Speaker 1: very bad sign. Does a guy imprison gossips all the time?
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  Speaker 1: You know you can't trust him if he has that character?
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  Speaker 1: Faul Believe me, people, He's got a lot more. It's
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  Speaker 1: not his only one. Does he always complain? Is he
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  Speaker 1: never positive about anything? If he's the type of guy
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  Speaker 1: that the governor could come in, give a full party,
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  Speaker 1: wipe his entire record, give him three hot chicks and
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  Speaker 1: ten million dollars tax free in a vehicle of his choice.
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  Speaker 1: What he bitch and cry that he has to go
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  Speaker 1: buy a house? Character fosse little things like that. That's
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  Speaker 1: the difference between being twenty years old and being fifty
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  Speaker 1: years old. You know how to actually think about those things.
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  Speaker 1: You know how to look and check after a person
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  Speaker 1: to see what's what it's not you look. Nobody is infallible.
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  Speaker 1: You can make mistakes I've made a couple. Go listen
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  Speaker 1: to The Chaos episodes one, two, and three. You'll find
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  Speaker 1: out you can get God. Nobody's perfect. Dude plagued out
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  Speaker 1: of me, and I'm still pissed about it and myself.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even mad at him anymore. I don't like
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  Speaker 1: what he did. You know, but he plagued me. He
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  Speaker 1: plagued me. It is what it is. I'm mad at
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  Speaker 1: myself that the man was able to fool me like myself.
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  Speaker 1: Wont being able to read people, I'll prode myself, wont
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  Speaker 1: being able to see through the bush. I'm pretty good
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  Speaker 1: at it, but I'm not infallible. I'm not perfect. Do
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  Speaker 1: your homework, search, ask questions, you know, find some people
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  Speaker 1: you can trust them. Make sure you can trust them
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  Speaker 1: before you start taking them at their word. I don't
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  Speaker 1: take anybody in here at their word unless I have
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  Speaker 1: tested them, and unless I have verified their truthfulness. Because
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  Speaker 1: I'm almost fifty years old, I'm some dumb. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: plumb dumb. It's about being able to see it. It's
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  Speaker 1: about having some experience. You have one minute remaining. It's
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  Speaker 1: about having some experience to rely on to safeguards and
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  Speaker 1: that is the major difference between almost fifty and almost twenty.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that's all the time we have for now.
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