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#231 - Lil Pump · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Boom Boom Boulet cav Show special guest a Little Pump
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  Speaker 1: Little Pump is here. Welcome man, good to see you,
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  Speaker 1: but appreciate man for having me. For people who don't know.
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  Speaker 1: The first time I met you, bro, was like it
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  Speaker 1: might have been like two or three days before your
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  Speaker 1: seventeenth birthday and you were at Trapzilla's house in Pacoima, California.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't even Bocoma's, Panoramic City, California. You and Smoke
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  Speaker 1: Purple just sleeping there and it was it was just
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  Speaker 1: a random, random era of SoundCloud rap. Yeah, that was
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  Speaker 1: when I first came to LA And like I want
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  Speaker 1: to say, like that night or the night after it
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  Speaker 1: was like your birthday party. You had your birthday party
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  Speaker 1: at like a trip truck club. Yeah yeah, yeah, good times. Man.
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  Speaker 1: That was like a peak SoundCloud days. Man. Literally, what's
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  Speaker 1: been going on though, traveling man? Yeah, freaking working, working
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  Speaker 1: on a new album. Okay, do you feel like you're
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  Speaker 1: focused on music again? Yeah, I'm back focused on music.
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  Speaker 1: There was one point where I was just like this
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  Speaker 1: is too much right now. Yeah, and you know we
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  Speaker 1: started fucking off and then I'm back on You're back
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  Speaker 1: on your shit. I was gonna say, like, shit happened
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  Speaker 1: so fast for you, and you were like a literal kid. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I think people forget that when they think a
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  Speaker 1: little pump like because when I first heard of you
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  Speaker 1: was the fuck J Cole shit, which was like pretty early,
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  Speaker 1: would you say, yeah, I was like sixteen, Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: it just happened so fast to a kid like people.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think people. I think when they talk about
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  Speaker 1: you and they criticize you, whether you know you've given
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  Speaker 1: them reasons to criticize you or not, they forget that. Like, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: you're a fucking kid and I'm still twenty two. You're
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  Speaker 1: only twenty two years old, but you also kind of
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  Speaker 1: grew up in front of our eyes. Yeah, literally, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, do you feel like now
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  Speaker 1: that you've kind of like seen the highs and lows
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  Speaker 1: of this rap shit, like you feel like mentally you're
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  Speaker 1: in a good, good space. Yeah, I'm in a way
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  Speaker 1: better space now. I understand how like shit goes. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I was young. I was just moving fast,
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  Speaker 1: not thinking about nothing. Right now that I'm older, I
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  Speaker 1: see everything now. I was only sixteen, seventeen, you know,
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  Speaker 1: crazy man. Now it's crazy. Yeah. Like you said, like
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  Speaker 1: I grew fast. It's like, let's say when this year
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  Speaker 1: when I turned twenty two, people were like, what the
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  Speaker 1: fuck Pump is twenty two. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: still a kid. You're still a kid, bro. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty wild. Uh. Talk about you first kind of start
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  Speaker 1: like I feel like you became like the face of
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  Speaker 1: your generation of music for about a year. You were
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  Speaker 1: kind of like when we thought of the sound. When
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  Speaker 1: I think it SoundCloud era of rap, I think of you.
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  Speaker 1: You're the first first name face that pops in my head.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, the Cloud era, I think its little Pump.
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  Speaker 1: Is that fair? Yeah? SoundCloud era? Yeah, just that whole.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're You're like on the fucking mountain, the
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  Speaker 1: mountains more of that shit. Yeah, one hundred percent for
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  Speaker 1: good or for bad. And I call those years of
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  Speaker 1: rap kind of I kind of call him the dark
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  Speaker 1: years because it kind of I feel like you're and
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  Speaker 1: I I did stick up for you a lot because
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  Speaker 1: I actually really liked your records. Appreciate it, Like I
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  Speaker 1: really fucked with your joints, Like I was like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: but the music is hard as to where some of
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  Speaker 1: your counterparts. During that time, it was one hundred percent
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  Speaker 1: about the antics on the internet. Well, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: you had a lot of stupid shit you were doing
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  Speaker 1: on the internet and you were following it up at
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  Speaker 1: least with dope records. Yeah, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: of course, but then the records kind of started to
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  Speaker 1: fall off a little. Do you feel like it was
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  Speaker 1: because you were just lost in the sauce and you
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  Speaker 1: weren't as focused on music and you were worried about that. Mean,
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  Speaker 1: you were fucking you were fucking living life, bro, for real,
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  Speaker 1: he was fucking v rod at least I think you
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  Speaker 1: were Rodriguez. You was fucking everybody everything. But you were,
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  Speaker 1: like you were really living that rap rap. I mean
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  Speaker 1: you still are, obviously you just will talk about. But
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  Speaker 1: did you ever feel like, you know, there in that time,
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  Speaker 1: like you kind of had to compete with the last
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  Speaker 1: crazy shit you did to kind of stay on the
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  Speaker 1: top of people's minds instead of focusing on the music
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  Speaker 1: per se. To me, I didn't really care people think
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  Speaker 1: about me, because at the end of the day, they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna criticize, they're gonna hate, they're gonna say whatever they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna say. As long as they keep my name in
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  Speaker 1: their mouth, you know that's fair. And I did everything
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to do. I move my mom out of
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  Speaker 1: the hood, my whole family out of the HOODE my
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  Speaker 1: family straight. That's a worry about I'm set, That is true. Man.
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  Speaker 1: Like whatever people gotta say about me, they keep talking.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm still here. How many streams is this Gucci
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  Speaker 1: Gang at It's like, damn near seven times plant. It's
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  Speaker 1: about to go diamond that It's insane. I could have
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  Speaker 1: just dropped Gucci Gang and I dropped no more songs
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  Speaker 1: and I'm straight for life and you're still eating and
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  Speaker 1: I'm still eating. Baby. Not a lot of people are
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  Speaker 1: going seven times platinum, and I'm still torn. I just
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  Speaker 1: came from Tokyo, Bally, Mongolia, Slovenia, Romania. I went. I
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  Speaker 1: was just everywhere it is. How was it over there?
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  Speaker 1: That's a pretty wild part of the world. It's different,
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  Speaker 1: it's different, very different. They loving you over there, they
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  Speaker 1: love me. Yeah, yeah, they show a lot of love.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Uh what you obviously you got the
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  Speaker 1: new project coming. It's crazy to think that this is
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  Speaker 1: this is only your third project? Is third? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's your third one, right, if you had the first tape,
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  Speaker 1: then you had the was it har Harper drop out?
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  Speaker 1: And then now this that's crazy to think man. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: do you like like talk about the album, man, like,
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  Speaker 1: who's on it? How you feeling about it? I'm feeling
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  Speaker 1: very good about it. Yeah, I've been holding back on
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  Speaker 1: it for a minute, I know, but it's gonna be.
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  Speaker 1: It's worth the way I'm telling you, it's different because
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  Speaker 1: obviously you have the old pump on there, then I
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  Speaker 1: have some new sounds. Well, you kind of feel I
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  Speaker 1: feel like you started to kind of expand your ship
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, like the record you did with X
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  Speaker 1: you know, rest him that was kind of like a
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  Speaker 1: real worldly record exactly like with those songs overseas, they
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  Speaker 1: they go crazy crazy. Yeah, you're trying to dip into
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  Speaker 1: the Latin market a little bit too. Latin market. That's
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  Speaker 1: another thing, Like the Latin market is way bigger in
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  Speaker 1: this market of course, Like it's huge. Are you you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Are bilingual? Yeah? There you go.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you are from Miami, so there's that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How's your relationship with with PERP right now? Good? Good? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Still my best friend. I love him to death. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you guys kind of you had you guys had to
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  Speaker 1: run man with things like it was really like y'all
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  Speaker 1: were the two motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying, Like
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy. You know, Uh, take me back, bro,
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  Speaker 1: because I feel like, in retrospect what I loved about
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  Speaker 1: J Cole. Right, you and him have this sit down,
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  Speaker 1: y'all have this conversation, which at the time was so
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  Speaker 1: to people unexpected. Yeah, because you had said, fu J Cole,
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  Speaker 1: it felt like some of his album was kind of
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  Speaker 1: geared towards your generation at least, if not specifically to you.
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  Speaker 1: And then you guys have to sit down conversation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that caught everybody by surprise. How like, talk about that
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  Speaker 1: convo and just like did you actually take anything from
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  Speaker 1: it or or do you feel like you're taking things
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  Speaker 1: from it now? After where are you from? I'm saying, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, obviously it was a it was an insightful conversation.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like JA Cole was trying to give some
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  Speaker 1: real game and like you're trying to understand the younger generation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he was trying to understand a young generation. He because
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  Speaker 1: at that time, you know, like he people didn't understand
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  Speaker 1: what was going on right music, But they're just like,
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  Speaker 1: there's this new wave coming in, we don't understand it,
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  Speaker 1: but where's gonna roll with it? And he's trying to
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  Speaker 1: understand what was going on? Do you yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: have no problems with them. Do you feel like hedicted
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  Speaker 1: kind of like what ended up happening with your rap career? Nope, No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm still here. I'm not saying that you're I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying that you're not like still fucking rich and successful.
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  Speaker 1: I just mean in terms of, like, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like there's so many parts of that era of
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  Speaker 1: rap where like people got famed so fast, they were
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  Speaker 1: so young, you know what I'm saying, Like, and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like that was some of the foresight that he
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  Speaker 1: was saying, not even necessarily about quote unquote falling off,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They don't think You don't
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  Speaker 1: think he predicted anything. I don't think pretty shit. No,
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  Speaker 1: that's fair. I'm still here. I mean you're still here
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  Speaker 1: know you got a classic with Kanye West, exactly one
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  Speaker 1: of the more iconic visuals of our of our last
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  Speaker 1: five years or so, exactly most most viewed video in
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  Speaker 1: the first week is that is that? Like ever ever,
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  Speaker 1: you guys got the big fucking you know, the big
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: shoulder pad joints, And I think, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: about what's going on with ya right now? Hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have no say so in that. How did
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: that like initially happen you guys working together? Well, this
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  Speaker 1: was on my eighteenth birthday. He had called me sick
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: flex eighteenth birthday present, Kanye cast you. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: my eighteenth birthday. I was throwing this huge mansion party
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  Speaker 1: and I just get this random phone call yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: it's yeah, He's like, yeah, I got some shit for you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, let's get it. I was shroomed out that day,
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  Speaker 1: shrooming balls nice. I was out of it. And then Bro,
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  Speaker 1: we just grabbed a studio equipment. It wasn't even though,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, like a big studio, big studio. It's
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  Speaker 1: not fucking Mike No Sony C hundred. We just grabbed.
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  Speaker 1: We literally had a five hundred dollars mic Wow, put
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  Speaker 1: in a small room, laid down the verse, send it
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  Speaker 1: back to him. Crazy And I was like, same night,
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  Speaker 1: while you're shrooming hard while I'm shreming, So you record
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  Speaker 1: that while you're fucking shroomed out. Yeah, Wow, that's fucking crazy,
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  Speaker 1: screaming balls. Was that your what's the your your best
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  Speaker 1: and also worst experience while on mushrooms? Because I dabble
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: in the shrooms a bit myself. I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 1: I've never had a bad one on mushrooms, but on acid.
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  Speaker 1: You had a bad acid trip? Yes, what happened? I
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: was in the studio. It was me my boy CB
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  Speaker 1: were recording for the Harvard Dropout and I'm taking a
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  Speaker 1: piss in a bathroom and then the whole toylet starts
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  Speaker 1: turning black, like in a circle, and it just starts closing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, fuck this ship. I put my pants up.
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  Speaker 1: I started running in the studio and I pissed on myself. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh fuck, you put your pants up
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  Speaker 1: while you're pissing. Pass the while I'm pissing because the
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  Speaker 1: whole toilet started closing on me, like it was a
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  Speaker 1: big black hole just closing. I'm like, oh Jesus cruble pants.
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  Speaker 1: I started running. I'm like, and I come back to
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  Speaker 1: the studio, I'm like, fuck, I just pissed on myself.
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  Speaker 1: That was like one of the weirdest. Yeah. The thing
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  Speaker 1: about acid, it's like really visual, Like shrooms can be visual,
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  Speaker 1: but they're also like they also like just have you deep,
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  Speaker 1: deeply stuck in your thoughts? Last time I did it
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  Speaker 1: was Sunday Service. The last time the trooms. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: want to go see yeah Coachella on Sunday Service. So
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  Speaker 1: you went to Coachella shroomed out while on acid. On
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: acid was like fucking eight in the morning. Wow, I
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: was just fucking tweaking. I'm like, that was that the
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: only drug you're on? Yeah? Because eight am ship eight
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  Speaker 1: am man that she will keep you up. Yeah. Do
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  Speaker 1: you feel like because you've obviously been pretty open to it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you got a fucking song about being addicted
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  Speaker 1: to drugs. How's how's the drug use these days? I'm
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  Speaker 1: not doing drugs anymore? What I'm not sitting drank? No,
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: what was your breaking point with that? Ship and by
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: the way, shout out to you for that. That's dope
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  Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, I don't know, just that just grew up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: when you look back, do you feel do you ever
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: feel like you golorified that shit a little too much?
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  Speaker 1: Not really, I mean everybody was doing it. I mean
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  Speaker 1: that that plaque mask off. The whole fucking song, the
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: whole hook is about Molly percocet. You know what I'm
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: saying so exactly. Everybody goes to their phases. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's fair. That's how I feel about it, Like everybody
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  Speaker 1: goes to their phase, and now we have a mature
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  Speaker 1: low pump exactly. Is that what you're telling me? Yeah, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: I want the old pump back. I'm like, you guys
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: want the o pump. You don't want the old pump back.
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  Speaker 1: We also the old pump was on his way to
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: probably like fucking I don't know, going to or dying
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: or something dying exactly. Yeah. And now with the whole
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: cancel culture, shit is like you just gotta chill out
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  Speaker 1: what you do because remember, like let's say twenty seventeen, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was no cancer culture. I mean, it was very light.
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  Speaker 1: It was like it was like, but no, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the ship y'all was posted on like your fucking snapchats
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  Speaker 1: and ship was crazy. Yeah, it's like it's it's pretty wild. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: To me, people are just too soft on days, but
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  Speaker 1: they definitely are. I definitely agree with you. I think
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  Speaker 1: that this guy is the pendulum swung too far the
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  Speaker 1: other way as to where like before it was like
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  Speaker 1: maybe you could get away with, like maybe some shit
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  Speaker 1: you shouldn't getting away with, but now it's like nothing.
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  Speaker 1: You can't do nothing. Man, you say one thing, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you're canceled. You this you that. I'm like, yeah, I
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's better to stay quiet and stay out the way.
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  Speaker 1: I respect that. Man. You've been staying quiet and staying
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: out the way recently. Uh. Now you did do something
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: that is some old pump ship. You destroyed a Porsche. Yes, yeah,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: I have a history of porches, man, Like, well, what
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  Speaker 1: was the for the video? What was your big music
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: video where you sucked up a car? Was that it?
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  Speaker 1: So the skeedded music video? Yeah, so this is this
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  Speaker 1: a big story and I never told nobody this one.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm on the car right, this is not the
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  Speaker 1: plan was not to break the car. I'm standing on
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  Speaker 1: it performing. Yeah, I cracked the window and then I
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  Speaker 1: looked down. I'm like, fuck, I just broke the back
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  Speaker 1: of a race like and then I just look at
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  Speaker 1: the fucking producer. I'm like, I'm gonna finish breaking this ship,
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  Speaker 1: like they're already gonna charge me, so might as well.
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  Speaker 1: Might as well. I grabbed the fucking golf the golf thing,
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  Speaker 1: start breaking that bitch. And then after the video's done,
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  Speaker 1: I get a call like a week later, like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: the owners don't want the car anymore. You gotta buy it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, what, Like this shit makes no sense? But
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  Speaker 1: I end up buying a car, and I got two
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  Speaker 1: of the same whips and one's just fucked up. One's
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  Speaker 1: just fucked up, and I fixed it, painted it. How
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  Speaker 1: M sure the cars to get fixed? They were trying
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  Speaker 1: to charge me, like forty K. I'm like, you're gonna
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: charge me forty K? Just let me buy the whole car. Wow?
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah you got the whip at that point. Yeah, I
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: was like, just give me the car. Damn. Bro. That
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  Speaker 1: shit's crazy. It's crazy too, because, like when I said earlier,
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  Speaker 1: you're kind of like the Mount Rushmore of that era music.
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  Speaker 1: The SoundCloud era. I feel like, like, without you, man,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people like uh, I think that, like
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  Speaker 1: a guy like six ' nine, Like, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he ever could have existed without you first? Does that
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  Speaker 1: make sense? Like, I feel like you kind of paved
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  Speaker 1: the way for like so many artists that got bags
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  Speaker 1: during that time. I mean, we could go on and on.
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  Speaker 1: There was like the dude with the fake clone. What
• 16:29
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  Speaker 1: this album? Yes, I got Young Boe on album. I've
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  Speaker 1: versus all fucking day. Did you guys send him the
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  Speaker 1: it out. What about what about? What tie Ty? I
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  Speaker 1: had sent it over to Yeah, any any But it's
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  Speaker 1: but those songs are like like different, like a whole
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: nother vibe. It's not rapping pump. It's like more of
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: what's the other R and B? You do an R
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  Speaker 1: and B? Well the time when it's called some R
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  Speaker 1: and B ship? Yeah, okay, it's fire on the album
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  Speaker 1: purpose definitely on the album. Yeah. Shot Shout out to
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  Speaker 1: ever do a joint fucking like another little joint thing together? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: You think that's coming again? Yeh? Who are you a
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  Speaker 1: fan of right now? Because you're young, I feel like
• 19:47
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• 19:48
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• 19:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of Spanish music lately, trying to get your
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  Speaker 1: Spanish ship up. I love There's a new artist. Her
• 19:58
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• 20:02
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• 20:04
  Speaker 1: that shit was crazy. Yeah, Bad Bunny at the fucking
• 20:06
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  Speaker 1: Spanish market is just so big. You know, he did
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  Speaker 1: It's insane. Yeah, yeah when you see that shit, like,
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• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Spanish album like some reggaeton shit. I would, Yeah, to
• 20:22
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• 20:27
  Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, like it's killing it. What is for you, man,
• 20:32
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• 20:38
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• 20:41
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• 20:59
  Speaker 1: be very good assistant and don't give a fun with anybody.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Got to say, like there's no right or wrong in
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: music right ever, like I said, Gucci Gang fifty four
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: times on a song one seven times platinum, like right
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: or wrong? And that yeah good, I don't yet. That's
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: it's insane and that that's the shortest. That's the shortest
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: song that ever top went on the Billboard charts. It
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: was like two minutes. And what's kind of crazy because
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the whole short song thing. I feel like I could
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: attribute that to you started that. Yeah, you started that.
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  Speaker 1: That that was all you. That was all mean Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like I feel like the whole streaming era when people
• 21:34
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• 21:36
  Speaker 1: two minutes, yeah or whatever that was back then we're
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: like four verses. But I'm saying like, once you came
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• 21:48
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  Speaker 1: minute two minute songs, that should change the whole game
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  Speaker 1: for sure. I look at everybody dropping. I could definitely
• 21:59
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• 22:01
  Speaker 1: other side of the industry. Once you did that, everybody
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: was like everybody started doing that shit, or they'd be like, yo,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: it's too long. When you'd have like an artist play
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: or a record be like, yeah, it's gotta be like
• 22:11
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• 22:14
  Speaker 1: that was never a thing. Never was That was the
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: first charted song since like because how long was Gucci Gang?
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: About like two minutes and something? It was like, but
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: like what was Boss? Like a minute and a half?
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: A minute and a half? Yeah, like that's so long?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: And was it was it? Because like were you doing
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: that shit on purpose or was it just like it
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: just came on naturally? Yeah, Like this shit is done,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: And like you said, everybody, everybody's attention span out on
• 22:41
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• 22:44
  Speaker 1: five minute song, Like I mean, I feel like, yeah,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy. You're kind of ahead of your
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: time because now everybody's on fucking everyone's making shit for TikTok,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: and TikTok's what a minute long? You know what I'm saying? Yeah,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: do you feel like you're kind of made for the
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  Speaker 1: TikTok era? Lowkey? Like you kind of get you kind of? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I made for anything, that's fair. Uh, talk about You've
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: been on some wild tours, man, obviously, I remember when
• 23:06
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• 23:15
  Speaker 1: at a little pump show that you remember happening, mm
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: hmm experience. I'll tell you what I remember. Once I
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: was overseas. What's city was I in? I told everybody,
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna throw my ass in the lake. It
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: was in you were in Germany? Throwing yourself in the lake. Yeah,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: there was a lake next to the festival, right. I
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: told everybody, fuck this ship, everybody come in here with me,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: took all my ship off, had all my fans literally
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: jump jump. It was like literally like three thousand people.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: They all just follow into the lake, cold as fuck.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I regretted. I was like, oh my god, give me
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: out this ship right away. What did I do? Yeah?
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: But this show is so insane? And another one was
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I'll say Wireless festival in the UK UK It's insane,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: fire insane. Yeah. Uh are you still only fans? Nah?
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: But you mean I managed girls are only fans? How's
• 24:19
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• 24:21
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• 24:25
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• 24:28
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• 24:33
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  Speaker 1: off the album? A lot? A lot? Because like how
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  Speaker 1: Like I'll say a good twenty two? So how many
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  Speaker 1: No you pulled from twenty two? No, I pulled from
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  Speaker 1: like damn near six hundred. That's what I'm not saying. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to put on the album, there's twenty twenty album. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but to pull ship six hundred, she'd just be playing, playing, playing,
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  Speaker 1: I'm locked on everybody right now. Yeah, locked on everybody
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  Speaker 1: my producer right now, CB, CB mixed, CB mixed, shot
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  Speaker 1: who knows. It's crazy too, because uh, I was just
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  Speaker 1: with a fat naked pool. Yeah. We were talking about
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  Speaker 1: kind of like that like Florida era of music that
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  Speaker 1: is so influential to everything that's going on right now.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you think about Danzel Curry, little Pump, Smoke,
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• 28:21
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• 28:24
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• 28:43
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• 28:59
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  Speaker 1: he had passed. Yeah, we were cool. He was a
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  Speaker 1: very genuine guy. I've known excellence. I was probably sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's crazy, but very genuine guy. Fair enough man.
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  Speaker 1: the album? Shit a lot any movies, any any entrepreneurial
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• 30:21
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  Speaker 1: Whole Lot of Red? Really that was like two years ago? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was the last time. Huh. Yeah. I think that
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• 33:10
  Speaker 1: shit was terrible. He sounded like he was fucking seanceing
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: demons on stage. It was. It was wild. Brou to me,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: bro got a good stage performance, like yeah, I mean sure,
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  Speaker 1: that's your last That's that was like two years ago.
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• 33:31
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• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Who else do you put on there? Use the X? Probably?
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man. There was like trying to think
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, what do you think? Hmm, I'll
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: definitely put Yak up there. Kodak, you think soundclad I see,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I was living in Tampa when he started a pop
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: so I kind of saw him from like a street
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: level like Kodak. Kodak is definitely I think so the
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: sound cloud no sound Claire. But he's on the Mount
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Rushmore like, Oh, he's on the Mount Rushmore the last
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: like fucking five years for sure. Yeah, that's fair. Who
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: was the album dropping? Album dropping on? January? January? January? Nice?
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Any OG's on the on the album? You had Rick
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Ross on the first one? Had Rick Ross? Yes, I
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: got I got one og. It's trick trick daddy. Oh shit,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: that's fire. Everything good over there, boys, Just make sure
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: we're good. You've got your guys over here with like whispering.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Make sure we're right over there. Oh okay, okay, yeah,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: shit's booming. Hey you fuck with uh? You know the
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: shout out to Dooney. He signed a little Sito Kid.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Have you been able to lead up with him? A
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: little seto? The little White Little White Kid. It's I've
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: been working with the lights global dudes. Have you heard
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: of him? He's sixteen? I mean he's he's like the
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Little White Dude who had the freestyle this thisler freestyle,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: you're not hip. That's fair. If you had to do
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: a joint album with anybody right now, Pump, who would
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: it be. You don't pick anybody, perp. I mean that,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: that's easy. Yeah. I just love making music with him.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: There it is, man, Well listen, I appreciate you pulling up.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Appreciate that. I'm coming out in January. January, Little Pump
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: two's on the way. Ooh uh. You're fucking up cars
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: out here, still sucking up cars, doing whatever you want
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: to do and living life. Yeah, man, listen, just don't
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: get back into that crazy internet antics shit. Deliver with
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: the music. So I'm gonna tell you we need the
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: records back because you can't do the antics without the records,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: not anymore. There was a time when you could do that.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: But yeah, low Pump man, I appreciate you. Bro Boom,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: there it is,