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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, September 7 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, September seven. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now
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  Speaker 1: former Triple Crown winner J. P. Chad Rick. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure of what this triple Crown anymore, but I'll take it.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick. We've got
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  Speaker 1: Pete Briscoe, Tony Boselli, the final cut to fifty three
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday, and plenty of youth to be sir for
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  Speaker 1: the Jags this year. And tonight We're gonna pick the
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  Speaker 1: schedule like we always do the show before the regular season,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sure Tony we'll have the Jags going at
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  Speaker 1: least eleven and five and into the playoffs and deep
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  Speaker 1: into the postseason. We'll go around the National Football League
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  Speaker 1: as well. Gentlemen, Good afternoon, Pete down in South Florida.
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  Speaker 1: What's up? Uh? Does Tony have any locks for the
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  Speaker 1: year so far? Any this week for the season? Anything
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  Speaker 1: the week to start? Give me something, you need something,
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  Speaker 1: It's it's game week. I'm not ready yet. Maybe by
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  Speaker 1: the end of the show I'll have a lock for everybody,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm right now, I'm kind of waiting. I gotta
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  Speaker 1: feel out the show and kind of see where we go.
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  Speaker 1: I think I might have a lot how it works
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  Speaker 1: on the end of the show. Yeah, Pete, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: you have a locke by the end of the show,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a lock. It's pretty rare. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the Tony locks come weekly. We get those all the time.
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  Speaker 1: The Pete lock, that's when you know he means business.
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  Speaker 1: He be locked down the playoffs last year and Week
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  Speaker 1: four he didn't body work out that way. Do you
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  Speaker 1: think the lot, like the law, your lock could have
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  Speaker 1: something to do with like you're not doing the show anymore.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be a good luck? Oh wow? How bad with
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  Speaker 1: the show? If I was just you and j P COmON,
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  Speaker 1: who would who would pick on you? Won't you listen?
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  Speaker 1: Well you should be? Um. Yeah, I don't think like
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  Speaker 1: we've been picking on each other is very nice, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: I think JP and I are nicer human beings than you,
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  Speaker 1: so we're probably kind to each other. You're the one
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  Speaker 1: who picks hell. Would I be scared of Tony? By
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  Speaker 1: the way, what is that about? No way, man, those
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  Speaker 1: glasses you got on today, No, these are glasses I've
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  Speaker 1: had same looks different here. Maybe just for far away,
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  Speaker 1: you're looking more like Mr Burgoon to me or something. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you should have yours check, Pete. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. By the way, I'm an old guy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an old guy. Tony's an old guy. Plus you
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  Speaker 1: got a add on twenty five years forever every injury
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  Speaker 1: he's had, so he's an old guy. JP is pretty old.
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  Speaker 1: But you know who's not old? Nobody on the rosters old.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. Jaguars one of the most amazing in all
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  Speaker 1: of sports when it comes to what they've done. It's
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  Speaker 1: a great for the Final fifty three where the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: they have more young young players on their roster than
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  Speaker 1: anybody I think, And I haven't done the work on it,
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  Speaker 1: like the Dolphins clean house and started all over, but
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  Speaker 1: they weren't this young. You make it sound like amazing,
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  Speaker 1: like in a good way. That's amazing. No amazically bad.
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  Speaker 1: How's that? Well? I actually oosmy Tony. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it's that bad a fit. I'm gonna be on a
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  Speaker 1: minority on that one. I don't think it's that bad thing.
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's get to the numbers of it, guys, real
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  Speaker 1: quick before we move on here, sixteen rookies on the roster,
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  Speaker 1: eight second year players on the roster, six third year players.
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  Speaker 1: That's thirty of the fifth three that have played two
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  Speaker 1: seasons of football or less in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 1: Let's hear from G M. J. Caldwell. He says, give
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  Speaker 1: them a chance. Don't count this team out yet. And
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  Speaker 1: and I think they'll tie. The same thing. We we
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  Speaker 1: can't afford a rebuilding year and and that's not our mindset.
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  Speaker 1: Our mindset is to put um the best team out
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  Speaker 1: there to to to play, to compete in the win.
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  Speaker 1: And um, we feel like these guys, the guys in
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  Speaker 1: this locker room, Um, you know, nobody has seen him
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  Speaker 1: play together. Nobody has seen him play a game. So,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, we're gonna know where we measure up.
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  Speaker 1: We played a very talented uh Indianapolis Colts on Week
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  Speaker 1: one and then we follow up with a final four
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  Speaker 1: team with the Tennessee Titans. So we'll know pretty pretty
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  Speaker 1: quick where we measure up with some of the top
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  Speaker 1: teams in the league. Yes they will, Tony, Um you
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  Speaker 1: know Mr Khan and Caldwell said that Mr Khan gave
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  Speaker 1: them the directive of hey, put the best team on
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  Speaker 1: the field and get the salary cap in order. Those
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  Speaker 1: are those are two tough, tough things to do together
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  Speaker 1: at the same time. Well, I mean the bottom lines,
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  Speaker 1: you want to put the best team on the field,
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  Speaker 1: like they're trying to win a football game and win
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  Speaker 1: and try to win the conference. And Dave's right, nobody
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  Speaker 1: knows what this team is because we haven't seen this
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  Speaker 1: team play together. There's no preseason. It's a young team.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned all the new guys, sixteen of him a rookies,
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  Speaker 1: never even played snap in the NFL, and you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: count on a number of those guys UM to help
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  Speaker 1: you win. I like, I appreciate the confidence that Dave has.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate the positive attitude he has. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: what you have to do, UM when you're in a
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  Speaker 1: leadership position where he sits. But I think as you
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  Speaker 1: look at it and you're realistic about UM and you
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  Speaker 1: just look at history, there's a reason teams don't go
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  Speaker 1: with a bunch of rookies, and there's a reason that
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  Speaker 1: like coaches and gems in the past haven't counted on
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of rookies help them win. Championships and because
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. Rookies take Rookies make mistakes, they learn
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  Speaker 1: on the fly. Um, it's hard to count on those guys,
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  Speaker 1: and especially if you're counting on a bunch of them,
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  Speaker 1: because they can be inconsistent and consistent player doesn't lead
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  Speaker 1: to winning football a lot of times. So, um, history
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  Speaker 1: tell you it's gonna be a tough slid for them
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  Speaker 1: based on you know, the number of young players are
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  Speaker 1: going to be counting on. But Dave's right, Look, let's
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  Speaker 1: give m a chance. Let's see what they can do. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I still say the biggest, uh, you know, the biggest
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  Speaker 1: factor in this is the second year player named Gardner Minshew.
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  Speaker 1: How he plays um like so much of like so
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  Speaker 1: many different teams you know, who kind of live and
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  Speaker 1: die by the quarterbacks. That's how this league is nowadays. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You either have to be really really good everywhere else
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  Speaker 1: and have a guy at that position who's you know,
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  Speaker 1: can kind of manage the club, or you have to
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  Speaker 1: be really good at that position. And uh, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think the Jags are really really good around him. I
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  Speaker 1: think they're really really young and they have some exciting players. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So Gardner's gonna be He's have to have played top
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  Speaker 1: end football for this team to win football games. It's
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  Speaker 1: always about the quarterback position. And then when you're really young,
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  Speaker 1: it's even more so. Who who's the most experienced guy
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  Speaker 1: on it? Team? Is it? If? Is that? Is that?
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  Speaker 1: Am I wrong about that? Is it? Avery Jones has
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  Speaker 1: been at it? This is his eighth year. Ifford's right
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  Speaker 1: up there too. Yeah, so it's those three guys. Nd
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  Speaker 1: well have seven, I think that's right, But nobody double
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  Speaker 1: digits usually have one or two of those guys, don't.
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  Speaker 1: Jim so young football t Pete, I mean listen, look
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  Speaker 1: at the I mean, go to the guys who're gonna
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  Speaker 1: start your quarterbacks, the second year player, You're right tackles
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  Speaker 1: a second year player. You're gonna have running back by committee,
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  Speaker 1: which is gonna be rookies in you know, a rookie
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  Speaker 1: and one seventh and one seventh round guy, seventh year guy,
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  Speaker 1: seventh year Chris Stomps. But everyone else is super young.
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  Speaker 1: Your receivers that you know, DJ Chark, third year guy,
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  Speaker 1: so no, uh second, your rookie rookie you know, just
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  Speaker 1: John rookie. Yeah. On the other side, Josh Allen, second
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  Speaker 1: year player. You know you're counting on the uh Chase
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  Speaker 1: chas on the rookie to make productive Timelton the rookie,
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  Speaker 1: Hamilton the rookie. I mean you're looking at Tavin Bryant,
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  Speaker 1: you're counting on to be a big player at three
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  Speaker 1: technique and he's coming off an injury, bone bruise. He's
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  Speaker 1: a third year player, gonna start a rookie safety? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, rookie corner. I mean it's like, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: crazy you start. What did I say? Wait, what did
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  Speaker 1: I say last week that seven rookies could start? And
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  Speaker 1: you you shot me down. I still don't think seven
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  Speaker 1: rookies are gonna start. Well, you got Daniel Thomas will start, right,
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  Speaker 1: isn't That's one Today was talking about Josh Jones a
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  Speaker 1: lot at safety. Really thought John Jones and safety. It
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  Speaker 1: sounds like, well, Doug Baron today talked up Josh Jones
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  Speaker 1: a lot of this press conference. I'll say that, so
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  Speaker 1: then you won't have a rookie at safety then, so
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter whether it's five. You could eventually you're
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  Speaker 1: in a week, a couple of weeks you could. But
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  Speaker 1: pe I get I'm not gonna quibble with you about
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  Speaker 1: whether it's five, six or seven. The bottom line is
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna have berks and second year players all over
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  Speaker 1: the field that you're counting on, and none bigger than
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  Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback, I mean, the second year quarterback and
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  Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. I mean, it is shocking how young they
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  Speaker 1: they have become and like and how much they're going
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  Speaker 1: to count on these young guys to figure out a
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  Speaker 1: way when you had no off season, basically no training camp.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you have no look really of what they
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  Speaker 1: are going to be together in real situations, and you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna roll out there on Sunday against a veteran team
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  Speaker 1: led by a vetchan quarterback. Um and most people are
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  Speaker 1: telling are projecting probably the best team in their division. Well,
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  Speaker 1: and and uh, here's the other thing. They got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of cap a lot of cap room, and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of draft picks, so they got that going for Like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a different angle there because I'm actually
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  Speaker 1: tired of hearing about that, because who cares Number one
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  Speaker 1: as we sit here today. But if I'm a fan also,
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, great, what are you gonna do with that?
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  Speaker 1: Cap room, and what are you gonna do with those
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  Speaker 1: draft picks, because having them doesn't mean anything like having
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  Speaker 1: just a bunch of picks and a bunch of cap
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  Speaker 1: room doesn't. There's not a direct correlation to success. Right,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta draft the right guys. Did they draft the
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  Speaker 1: right guy and Jalen Ramsey, Well, it depends he's not
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  Speaker 1: on this team anymore, and the right picks back for Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're not playing fantasy football or like some card game
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  Speaker 1: like hey, I got this guy, and me get three
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  Speaker 1: extra guys for this. You said it last week, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: you said better to go in six and ten going one,
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  Speaker 1: and I said that. But my point I said that
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna step back from that. My point is
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  Speaker 1: if I'm sitting here as a fan listening like, oh
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  Speaker 1: great we have draft picks and and uh and sary cap,
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  Speaker 1: I don't care. Well, okay, what was the alternative? You
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  Speaker 1: don't keep the young guys? Let's just say what moves
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  Speaker 1: did they make that they should have kept an older
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  Speaker 1: player and let him play? Okay, you know, well, I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm I want to let's make sure. I want to
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  Speaker 1: make sure we're talking about too, because there's really two
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  Speaker 1: different things for me, Um, I don't think like Dave
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  Speaker 1: or Doug made any moves that I'm looking at going
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  Speaker 1: that makes no sense. I just think they didn't have
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of good veterans on this team, had no choice,
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  Speaker 1: Like there wasn't any and there's no one who got
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  Speaker 1: cut where I sat there and looked like why, I
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  Speaker 1: can't believe they got rid of him and kept this guy.
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  Speaker 1: There wasn't one, So that's one. But I'll be honest,
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty much the way it was around the league.
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  Speaker 1: To Tony. There were a few. There were a few
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  Speaker 1: like Sidney Jones, who is now on the Tag Wires
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  Speaker 1: practice squad, was let go by the Eagles and he
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  Speaker 1: was a second round pick, and some people were surprize
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  Speaker 1: at that, but then yet others he said, he has
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  Speaker 1: it stayed on the field, he hasn't been hurt a bunch,
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  Speaker 1: So it really wasn't that. I don't think there were
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  Speaker 1: a lot of surprise you know, back when you were playing,
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  Speaker 1: if there were a lot of surprise cuts on the
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  Speaker 1: final cutdown, it's not the way it is anymore. Even
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  Speaker 1: in a non COVID season, they kind of clean out
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  Speaker 1: the stuff before you get to that cutdown. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting. Uh, it's gonna be a young team. But
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  Speaker 1: as you and if you think about it, Pete, we
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  Speaker 1: just talked about how young they're going to be, and
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  Speaker 1: the JP gave the number thirty guys, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: three years or three years or less experience, um, sixteen
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  Speaker 1: of those rookies, and at the same breath we're saying,
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  Speaker 1: but no one got cut that, we're surprised. So basically
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  Speaker 1: this was a pretty bad like if you sixteen rookies
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  Speaker 1: make it not a real good roster going into going
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  Speaker 1: into the draft or in the camp. But you're let's
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  Speaker 1: go back to your yes, yes, that means it's not
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  Speaker 1: a good roster. But in your rookie season, you were
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  Speaker 1: one of the better players on that team. You were rookie,
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  Speaker 1: but you were one of the better players. You had
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  Speaker 1: a couple other guys that were among the better, but
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  Speaker 1: Bryan DeMarco wasn't a good player at the I mean
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  Speaker 1: it looked like you kind of chance to be a
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  Speaker 1: good player. He's a starter as a rookie. James Stewart,
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  Speaker 1: it's about what this team is gonna win. That's my point.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to win with the rookies. But like you,
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  Speaker 1: you guys, the next year you won none. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: we got we got older. The next year, all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden you have Leon Serci point, my tackle is
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  Speaker 1: six five six years in the league. Next year you
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  Speaker 1: can get some you got money to spend it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about this year right now? This year? Is it?
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  Speaker 1: This year? If you're a Jaguar fan and this is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a cold crew reality, you're having a bad year.
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  Speaker 1: Put out there, You're not gonna be a good football team.
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  Speaker 1: You might be feisty, you might be spunky, you might
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  Speaker 1: be competitive in games, and you might improve as a
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  Speaker 1: season goes along, but when it comes to wins and losses,
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna win a lot of games. And as
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  Speaker 1: a fan, the question is this, Tony, are you okay
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  Speaker 1: with that with a glance to the future or are
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  Speaker 1: you sick of it and you don't want to hear more?
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  Speaker 1: Like you not about the cap room in the draft picks.
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  Speaker 1: For me, I'm like, I'm not ready to sign off
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  Speaker 1: that this year is gonna be a bad team. This year.
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  Speaker 1: I I just can't do that record one lost record, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I can't. I still have a hard time doing that
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  Speaker 1: before we take them one snap, Like we literally do
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  Speaker 1: not know what this team is, like we talked about
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  Speaker 1: before we came on, Like I'm only sure you prepped
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  Speaker 1: for this game as we call it, as we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: call on the radio. It's like there's no take. There's
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  Speaker 1: something to watch and reach some articles. That's about it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna sign up for what you just
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  Speaker 1: said that they're not gonna have a good record this year.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's too early to do that. Um, but
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  Speaker 1: I do. I am tired of and I gotta believe
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  Speaker 1: fans of time hearing about, hey, we got cap room
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  Speaker 1: in a bunch of draft picks, like okay, great, Like
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  Speaker 1: it's not like it's not like we're saying that, like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we we're come and off. Um, you know, a thirteen
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  Speaker 1: and three season after going to the playoffs three or
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  Speaker 1: four straight years and now we've got to rebuild and
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  Speaker 1: clean up the cap and we've have more cap room
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  Speaker 1: with draft picks next year and we're coming on. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but think about it, Tony, with all the guys that
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  Speaker 1: they had and veterans that they had, they won five
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  Speaker 1: and six games, So why not do something different. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying I agree with you, Pete, No, you had
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  Speaker 1: to make the moves that they made. I agree with
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  Speaker 1: that they had. No I keep hearing that they're tanking
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  Speaker 1: and the and I think no, like a haze car
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  Speaker 1: Line pointed it out on the show one day, went
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  Speaker 1: through all the moves they made. He included nick Foles
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  Speaker 1: as a tanking move. That's not a tanking move. That's
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  Speaker 1: a great move, that's a fantastic move. The bad move
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  Speaker 1: was signing them. Yeah, like what moves is the that's
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  Speaker 1: a good that's a good topic. Like tell me one
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  Speaker 1: move they made this offseason where you would say they
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  Speaker 1: were taking and some people mentioned class Campbell. Okay, that's
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  Speaker 1: the only one that you could have an argument in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion. And at that point they thought it was
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  Speaker 1: too much money to pay him, and they thought Gunter
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  Speaker 1: would be a replacement to step in and play, and
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  Speaker 1: he had obviously had the issue with the heart and
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  Speaker 1: he couldn't play, So that's right. And because yeah, if
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  Speaker 1: you look at it, um like, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people who felt like Klaias took a step back last year.
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  Speaker 1: As far as you know, it wasn't a guy who
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  Speaker 1: played the amount of reps that they wanted him to play,
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  Speaker 1: if he was gonna be making fifteen or seventeen, whatever
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  Speaker 1: the number was. Um, I could argue both ways out
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  Speaker 1: and said, you know what, having that veteran presence, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, you want to pay him ten, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to pay him fifteen like he might be
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  Speaker 1: worth that extra because of who he is. Um. But
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, if you were taking then you
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't go spend free agent money on Gunter. You wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: making that money and spent. There's no tank there. They
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  Speaker 1: felt like they got younger and better with Gunter. Now
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  Speaker 1: unfortunately the poor guy had a heart issue. That's terrible. UM. Yeah,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: so I like, I like the whole tanking thing makes
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: no sense to me because I don't. But there's that
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: one decision that they made says, oh they're taking I
• 17:16
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• 17:19
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• 17:21
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• 17:23
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• 17:27
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• 17:31
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• 17:36
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• 17:40
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• 17:42
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• 17:44
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• 17:49
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• 17:53
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• 17:56
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• 18:01
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• 18:04
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• 22:48
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• 22:53
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• 23:00
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• 23:09
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• 23:13
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• 23:16
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• 23:19
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• 23:23
  Speaker 1: what does he mean by that? The adversity part. Yeah,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: it's different for every team. It depends on the year
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: really frankly, because it could be a tough loss, could
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: be a guy good bad injury to one of your
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: key guys. It could be, um, you know, anything like that.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's an off the field issue that you don't
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: expect that comes in. You know, that happens, and like
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: how does the team go You lose a couple in
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: a row? Um, you know. So those are all moments
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: of adversity that are going to happen during the year
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and how you how you handle it as a team.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: We'll say a lot about the locker room and kind
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of you know where you're gonna end up. But I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: think what Doug saying is, um, every team has its
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• 24:10
  Speaker 1: edge and like is this team gonna stick together when
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: it's not going well? So like we used to call
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: those like there's teams that are front runners. Like a
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: front running team is like when it's going good for them,
• 24:20
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• 24:23
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• 24:24
  Speaker 1: five and making things happen. But at the first sign
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: of something going wrong and not going their way, it
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: falls apart. And those are front runners. And you don't
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: like you're you're just you're perfectly describing to two thousand seventeen,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen Jaguars. Yeah, like eighteen, I think they
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: were front runners because like, like when everything went their way,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: like everything in seventeen went their way, and so like
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: they were rolling and and they were kind of a
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: little bit there and they were fun and they were
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: loose and they say things. Ever and then when it
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: didn't go their way that they became problems, that's right.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: And then like a seven, you get the eighteen, and
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: like they were hot and they were rolling early, but
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: you could kind of see some things in the training camp,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: a little pickering and something started happening. But you know what,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: they came out there were three and one. They're rolling
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: and then they go to face the chiefs and they
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: get it handed to them and all of a sudden,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: you here maybe a little chirping back and forth, and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: like it starts falling apart. And that team fell apart
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: because they were front runners. They didn't have great character
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: in that locker room, in a great locker room where
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: they were in it together and they were going to
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: fight through it and regardless of what the situation was.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: So and Doug saying he likes his team. He says
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: he likes the locker room, he likes the guys. And
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: what adversity they're they're starting the season with adversity. They
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: got six kids on the tea. I mean, yeah, they
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: don't know that. I have no idea, I think, And
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: this is what back in the day, as a beat guy,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I would have went around to all the veterans and
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: found out when they think about keeping all the kids.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a story. If you're a better player.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: That would have sidled up to Tony and he would
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: have said, I don't really want to say anything, and
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: then off the record he would give me the best
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the money quote. He would have said, it's ridiculous we
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: have kids on this team. I can't do that story
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: today though, because you can't go in the locker room anymore. Oh,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I know it's hard to do. I don't know how
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: you can do that story now. Yeah, but like I
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: mean it goes to I mean, like like the question,
• 26:29
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• 26:31
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• 26:33
  Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, who would you have kept? If
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: you're going to keep these guys, well, then that would
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: have been the story. Then if you got to if
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: every better looked around and said none of those guys
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  Speaker 1: that he has the story. Veterans, all on board with
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the kids in the locker room, come on, beat work
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: one on one is easy to find the story and
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: make that. You can make the story. You just gotta
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: ask the questions. And you're right though, j P. You
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: can't go to the locker room. Are you sure that
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: hell can stand outside in the parking lot, can't you?
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I guess at a distance. I mean it is a
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: public place. Used to stand at the park lot wait
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: for guys to come out. That was I got some
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: of my best stuff in the parking lot. Pressco was
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: known to be waiting around when practice was over. Yeah,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I mean I tell that story all the time. I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: would stand there and this guy would come out, and
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: that guy would come out, and this guy come out,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: and I did I find out stuff? I mean it
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: was and you not only that, you got to talk
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: to you guys about stuff other than football. You know
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you can find out what's inside a guy a little bit.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: That's that's what you have to do with the peat guy.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I think that's all been lost. It's been lost because
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  Speaker 1: now it's so structured. He'll talk here, he'll talk here,
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  Speaker 1: he'll talk there, he'll talk there. It's hard to get
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I would imagine as a peak, it's hard to get
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: to know players now I can see, and it's hard.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: You know, it didn't didn't that you get close enough
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: to guys where they threatened to blow your car up, right,
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  Speaker 1: Pete when that still are you from the past. Yeah,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: that's a whole another story. That stuff can't happen anymore.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: That stuff can't happen anymore either, because it goes viral
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: and the guy would be imprisoned. But yes, it different.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: It's just different the way the NFL is now. Even
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: as a national reporter. When I go into a team,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: and believe me, when you're a national reporter, you've got
• 28:23
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• 28:26
  Speaker 1: But you don't really get it's hard to get to
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: know a guy. Uh that, Well, it really is, and
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I think it's a challenge. And I imagine being a
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• 28:37
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• 28:40
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• 28:42
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• 28:44
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• 28:47
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• 28:50
  Speaker 1: a lot and not on not on a microphone, not
• 28:52
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• 28:54
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• 28:56
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• 29:00
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• 29:07
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• 29:09
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• 29:16
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• 29:25
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• 29:34
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• 29:37
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• 29:40
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• 29:42
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• 29:47
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  Speaker 1: I never would have thought about it like that. We've
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously we've touched on the youth on this roster,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: but then early in the show we did mention the
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: offensive line is the most veteran of the groups for
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: this Jags team was not close either. But the guys
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: that they starting, what's that, Pete, it's not close either
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: because when you look at it, but they have a
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: seven seven and what is can now? Six? Cam Robinson
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: and cans in a sixth? Yeah and then yeah t
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: sevens and experience on the interior. Well, I mean that's
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: supposed to be the strength, right is it? Has it
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: been a strength? Came three guys? Strength? No? But it's
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: a great point, Like, you really have a good point
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: that I struggle with it because I have and I've
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: gotten criticized for it, because I've gone to bat for
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: these guys and said, this is a good group. It's
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: a top ten group in the NFL, and and and
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: it's the same group. No changes have been made. And
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: if you look at them, I love them all as individuals,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: like individually, like they're like you would think they like.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: They've got a good group, especially with the right tackle,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: a really good player. We were in the middle of
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: a discussion about the offensive line for the Jacksonville back
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: with US Pete Tony JP disappeared. You're here, peak hear us?
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Can you hear us? I got you? Yeah, happened? What happened?
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, you left us. We all left.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: We're all gone talking to each other. What we were
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: talking about. We're talking about the offensive And then then
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I asked you about a j Can and I said,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: is can he's inconsistent? But is it game? The game
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: or play to play? What do you think about that? So?
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I think a J Can is like the perfect like
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: picture of what like he like tells the story of
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: what the Jaguar offensive line is like, at times it
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: looks good, at times it looks really bad, and so
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: inconsistency makes it difficult, um to count on it. And
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I think A j is like a perfect example of that.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Times you watch and he plays games, he's physical, he's good,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: he's you know, athletic, you know, you love everything about him.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: But then and all of a sudden, you watch a
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: couple of plays or a series or even a game,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: You're like, what the heck is that? Like he's leaning,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: he's reaching, he's you know, grabbing instead of bringing his feet.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Um and so. But I think that's really the story
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: of this offensive line Pete. Last year, like I got
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: so frustrated with it because at times, like you saw
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: glimpses of what it could be, and then at other
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: times you're like, oh my gosh and so um And
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I'll say what I did. I was I think I'm
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: not sure JP you heard this or not, but I
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: was saying how this offensive line has to be the
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: unit that basically puts the team on its shoulders and
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: says that here we go, like they have to dominate
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: games if they want to win. This year, they had
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars offensive line has to be dominant. What about um?
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Was there any if you watch any of his tape,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Tony playing guard behind can Yeah, a little bit. He's
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: he's a big body. He's like a big man. Like
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I think he's has he has a chance of this league.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: He's still learning. UM, but I like his size. Um.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: You know, he looks like a powerful human being. You know,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: it's so hard to tell, just practice wise, but like
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I think he has um. He has a chance. He
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: has a chance to be a good offensive garden. But
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: not this year. You don't think he plays this year?
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Oh you never know, I mean injury or no, outside
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: of an injury, no, pete, I don't think he beat Okay, yeah,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: something to watch. And then of course you have Shatley
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: is a backup on the interior that offensive line as well.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Of course, he's been around for about twenty two years
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: and never plays. He'll he'll jump in there when when needed,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: when there's an injury or something in the interior. He's
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: played some guard, he's played some center. He's a guy
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: that can do it. Yeah, I know he could do it,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: but he I mean, it's like and my wrong, has
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: he's only been here? I think seven or eight years
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, but it seems like he's been
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: here since Tony played. He was he was a backup
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: on your line, Tonty. No, but you bring it. It's
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: an interesting point, Pete, from the standpoint because you don't
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: don't think you see this very often. I Shatley has
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: been on the team seven years, and I love the
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: great guy. But if you're have ever spent any time
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: with them, like literally salted the earth, just a good dude, um.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: But you often don't see guys who just backups like
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: that's what they are, like make it for like seven
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: straight years. You usually to see a team that tries
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: to go younger and try to develop other guys in
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: those positions, and somehow Shatley just fights him off every year,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: or or he becomes a stor that developmental guy becomes
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: a starter. He's worked a couple of years as a backup,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and then he becomes the starter for whatever reason. He's
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: just a career backup. But he doesn't go away, or
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: they'll go or they go sign the big free agent
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: norwell you know, and and put him in there. Right. Yeah,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: it's interesting. I like him. I'm glad Shadley's on the team.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: He's a good dude. Well they keep They kept him,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Richardson and bart As, so they're an eight. They have
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: eight then, right, they didn't keep a ninth eight actors?
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Is there nine on the roster though? Is there a ninth?
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think they did. I mean that's when I
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: looked at it. When I looked and saw eight, that's
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: what I saw. Double check here. I mean, was there
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: a young guy that they liked because they had some
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: young defensive players they like. They clearly kept the undrafted kid. Uh,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: the defensive lineman, they don't. I think the offensive lineman
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: right is correct, Yes, but they kept the undrafted defensive lineman. Yeah.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: And remember tell there's a little more flexibility of moving
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: guys off practice squad this year too. I don't know
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: if that changes your perspective perspective, but Tony, when you played,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I think you kept nine off the line. Uh, yeah,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: we usually did eight, eight or nine? Yeah? Seven active
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: on game there. Um. Hey, let's see. So get to
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: this at some point. But I love it, Uh, do
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: we have it? Like? We spent a lot time on
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: the offense, but look at the defense. Are expensive time
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: talking about the defense coming up here. Well, I was
• 42:15
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• 42:36
  Speaker 1: her Tony's request was flipping to defense. We were going
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: there anyway. By the way, real quick, JP, how many
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: fans are gonna be at the game? Fifteen thousand? Is
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: that what it was? I think there's are So it's
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen thousand in that ballpark? Is the capacity of
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: what do you say of their normal crowd or the stadium?
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: The normal crowd. They'll have fewer people than Baker County
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: had the other day. I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Hey,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: at least they have fans. Some of these teams have none. Well,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: so that's the point too. It's like Thursday night will
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: be fans in Kansas City, but then Sunday the Jags
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: are the only home team with fans of the entire league.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Why is that? Is that any state deal? Yeah, you won't.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: You won't have fans in California until two thousand and
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: twenty three. I think the way that state, I mean, yeah,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: it's just weird. Like if Miami and Tampa were home,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: they would have fans in the stands. Yeah, it's Florida,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: right right, I'm surprising up. Letting them sell out. Let
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: them all in, like Alabama. It's like Alabama and Jordan,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Mississippi all in. You all fans in the stands everywhere,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: come hell or high water, there will be college football
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: in the Deep South. That's how that's gonna work. All right,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Let's start on defense here, and you know I want
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: to start up front, So I'm gonna start up front.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: In the comment the other day that from Todd wash
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Tony that Caleb and Chason is much stronger than they
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I guess anticipated in training camp, and he's going to
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: play defensive end. That's going to be his position. He's
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: not going to be a linebacker at least to start.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: So there are moments where you could see Alan and
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: chasing on the field. They feel like he's strong enough
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: to play maybe on that other side on the defensive line.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting development. Yes, he's still a rookie,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: but there's I think there maybe hoping a little bit
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: more that he can perform more than they anticipated. I guess,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: and in his rookie year. Yeah, I guess. I mean,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. It all depends what kind of defense
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Todd wash wants to run, which is I find ironic.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Remember all offseason everyone was convinced, I mean, all the
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: people and the smart people said they're going to a
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: three four. Sources they're going to a three four. They're
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: going to a three four. At least the practice I've
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: seen JP, it's still the same bold defense that we've
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: always seen. It looks like a three or four to me, Um,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: you don't play seven guys in the front anyways. But
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: my point is saying that it's it's just it's interesting,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, which leads me to there are four three teams.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Can you go with Chase On and Josh Allen in
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: first and second down against a two tight end set
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: or at one tight end set? I can Chase On
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: hold up and a double team between an offensive tackle
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: and in a tight end Are they gonna I mean, Okay,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I think my point is always used to put in
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Cockway at the open debt and try to get him
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: away from that. Used to flip side. So Clays was
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: your big end and go Way was your open side.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: The Well, they're gonna go with Josh Allen and Jason
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I mean Josh Allen's two pounds sixty pounds. Is he
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: now going to be your big end on the field
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: at the same time, back in there on third down,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: never on first, never on first and second down. You're right,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: So don't have a big end then smooth? I mean
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: you can see you start smooth and he can played
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: the big end. You gonna remember almost your plays. You're
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: gonna be in the nickel. Anyways, Well, I understand that
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: people this team couldn't stop the run last year, So
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: what our team's gonna come out and do last them?
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: And so and then which leads to my next question,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: is I mean tam, I mean, I know there's no
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: official when's the official injury report come out JP Wednesday, Wednesday,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: first day, Wednesday, Thursday Friday, But we haven't seen Taven
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: since he had the bone bruise. Well, Doug Morone said
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: today in his press conference after practice that over the
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: weekend Haven was and he did practice today. Now there's
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: no status report today, obviously we'll find out for sure.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: If he practiced today, he'll put it down. Okay, So
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: how did they line up on first down? Then, Tony?
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's gonna be Avery and day Uh.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I mean my guess is Avery and Taven and then
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go Josh Allen and I Smooth
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: is your big end. I guess. So the guy you drafted, Okay,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: if you have the three linebackers, he's not playing the
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: strong side spot chase at all, I guess not, and
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: then explained that he won't be linebacker. But that means
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: you you took a guy that you took in the
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: in the top what how many? What? What? What? What?
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Where was he pick? What number was he was twenty
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: or whatever? Nineteen? He's not gonna be barely gonna be
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: on the field. Then, No, it's it's he didn't have
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: the same role Josh Allen did last year. Josh Allen
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: p on the snaps. He saying the snaps because he's
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: only on their nickel. Yeah, I think see, I think
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: you could have played him at the strong side linebacker.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Didn't put him on with his hand on the ground
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: in passing situations, they're not going to um. I just
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: think it's interesting. So like it, maybe Todd thinks that
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: they can line up with those two, you know, two
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: smaller ends plays a strong side when they go on
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: the field, they have three linebackers in the field. Who's
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: starting at the strong side. Then I guess is Leon
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Jacobs mhm right, JP, Yeah, I mean that would be
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: that would be mine. Yeah, I personally I would have
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: found the way to get Chase on on the field
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: war particularly as a young player. Or you said the
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: same thing last they will I would have And I
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: still believe that maybe they maybe they were playing possum
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: with us. Well you're on again, You're you're nickeled seventy
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: almost snacks anyway, so he's gonna play. But I would
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: have found the way to get if we say that
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: if he like, don't he said, if teams ran the
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: ball under his throat, they're not gonna get the nickel. Well,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: that's the big issue. I wouldn't say if. In my opinion,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: that's a big issue. Can they get passing situations where
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: you can show off Josh Allen and Chase Song's ability
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: to get after be athletic and get to the quarterback. Well,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: they run last year and he had and Josh Allen
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: had double digit sacks as a rookie. So I know
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: they have a lot of confidence in Devon Hamilton's on
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: the interior as well. And I don't I know Tony
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: you said earlier, you had not been out there. He
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: is a broad guy. He's not He's not like fluffy
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: like he's just built. He's a big guy. You know.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: I think they have a lot of confidence what he
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: could bring. I watched I watched the Monte anybody type me,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: remind you of Tony from any player or somebody big,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: big body type like that. He's just in the big
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: square body. I mean he's just a big thick you know,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: not like like not Chris Jones big right, No, remember
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: like he wasn't this He's not remember like Chester mcgo
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: big square block. Yeah, he's like a big thick chested
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: square Yeah, was like a he was like a fire
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: hydrant because I was like real the size of a
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: human being. He was square. Yeah. So he's a big
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: human being. JP's right, and he listen, he's gonna be
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: good against the run. He's a big physical guy. Um,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: you know, so I think he'll be okay on first
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: a second down? Uh, how do they rotate up? How
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: does the how do the guy who plays in rotation?
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I think it'll be Hamilton's Avery rotating at the one
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: technique and I think it's gonna be Jurney again and
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: uh da David a three technique and then the ends
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: will be smooth Chase on Alan. Yep, that's my guess.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: What about Gastus does he play? Uh? Maybe maybe he's
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: your big ends with the big end. Yeah, you know,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: he didn't look I mean he's coming off that a
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: C L and the practices that I watched, it didn't
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: look like it was all the way back. I guess
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: it would be the best way to say it. So
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: in other words, he didn't look at right. No, it's
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: just not explosive like like not like I mean, it
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: looked bad. He was a pretty he was a pretty
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: good player before the a C. I agree. I agree
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: that's what. He didn't look like that guy JP. You
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: watched him, I mean, would you agree? Yeah? I had
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: a little he was wearing a thing on it and
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: was you could tell he was maybe just not as
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: confident as he as he should be early in campidly,
• 51:59
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  Speaker 1: M H. I've always felt like and talking to some
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: veterans that have been kind of going from team to team,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: and a lot of them at times when you caught
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: them wish they could have been on the practice squad
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: and continue to develop with the team they're at. So
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's a great rule this year. I kind
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: of hope that we keep it that way. UM. But
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: to be able to give guys and add some depth
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: there and some veteran leadership, even if it's a practice
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: squad guy and guys that have been around, UM, I
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: think it's great because it's a lot easier to act
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: giving a guy from your practice squad on a on
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: a game week, then they have to fly somebody in
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: sign him on a Tuesday, get him acclimated in practice.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: So our our number one goal is when we activate
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: guys and we have a need, is to get him
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: from the practice squad. And if that's a veteran guy,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: even better. G M. Dave Caldwell speaking Saturday afternoon after
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: the cutdown to fifty three and welcome back Second Hour
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy hour underway, j P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Basselli Your social questions coming up. Next segment will go
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: around the a f C South and around the league
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: as well the big stories of the day though. The
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: final fifty three is young thirty Jaguars players and now
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: their third season or less in the National Football League.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: But there are some key veterans obviously on this team.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Three eight year players, six different seventh year players on
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: the squad, and a lot of those guys are on
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: the offensive line. The practice squad is Dave Coldwell was
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: referencing to. There has been announced can have six vested
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: veterans on their four players can be protected each week
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: and as cold Well mentioned that it makes it easier
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: for those weekly transactions. When a guy gets dinged, you
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: can bring a guy from your own program in. UM.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: You know we were talking. We didn't get what's that.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: It's the taxi squads. You know where that came from.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: It came from Paul Brown back in the day. He
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: kept cut down to thirty three, but he liked about
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: another ten of his guys. So what he did is
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: he hired UM. He had the owner of the team
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: who had a taxi company, and he kept him on
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: the taxi company's employee list, and then he practiced, and
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: then whenever anybody got hurt, he just bring him up
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: from the taxi squad. True story. That's where taxi squad.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: That's where the taxi squad comes from. How about that
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: it was I guess that was legal in the league
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: back then. Well he kindd of skirted the rules and
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: then they made it into something where everybody could do it.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: But can you imagine a roster with only thirty three guys? Yeah? Wow, um, interesting.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: You know, this is the time and we were touching
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: on defense and we gotta pick the season coming up
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: to by the way, that's gonna happen here fairly soon
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: here in the segment. But let's finish up our defensive
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: conversation last hour. That's right, I know, I know. Um,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: we didn't touch on the secondary that much. We touched
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: on safety and what they could do in place of Harrison.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: They like Josh Jones. It sounds like according to Doug
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Morowne today, but you look at the cornerback spot, d J.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Hayden is a vet on the interior at corner. But
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: you got some youth there too, third year player, and
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Trey Herndon who hasn't played a lot of football in
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: his career here and then a rookie and c. J.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Henderson in the first round on the other side, and
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: then after that there's a lot of rookies in depth
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: in the cornerback room. To Pete, that's a that's a
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: lot of young guns running around, really is I mean
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: you know what they keep? Um? Did Josiah Scott? They
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: kept farco Um? Is that the the only two rookie
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: corners they kept? Yeah? I think so. But that's a
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: young group. I mean C. J. Anderson starting Herndon is
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: not an old guy either. I mean that the only
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: guy there with any experience is Hayden really I mean
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: not experienced but because heard him played last year, but
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: real experience. So it's they're gonna be challenged early and often.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: And they get a Philip Rivers this week. I mean,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: does he know how to find corners that can pick on?
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Of course he does well. And here's the thing. I
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: mean last year, one year ago, we're sitting here and
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Trey Herndon was the fourth corner from this roster, and
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: no one was thinking like, hey, we need Trey Herndon,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: like be like, are the guy and because of what
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: happened with Jalen and all the other stuff and boy
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: A leaving, now all of a sudden you look at it,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: you're starting Trey Herndon and he's the widely vette of
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: the two corners because the other ones that working, um,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, they are super young, not a lot of experience,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see how they match up.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: And because you know, it's amazing Tony Is Wilson will
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: have them, if I'm not mistaken, Wilson will have the
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: most experience right beside Hayden. Then, but the four guys
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: who are announced the starters, Wilson I think has the
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: most experience. Yes, pretty amazing, that's amazing. And he I mean,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: like on on the on the sevent team team, he
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: was like a backup, deep backup. He was a backup
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: special teams guy. Yeah, barely there's questions like he would
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: be like he was like the undrafted guy who made
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: it like like end of the roster making it. It's amazing,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: that's amazing. Now, if Henderson's good and Herndon improves, Hayden's
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: a good nickel corner and then they'll be okay. But
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: those are big questions. Those are major questions. What do
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: you have questions at safety too? I mean, Jared Wilson
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: was a special teams guy a couple of years ago. See,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I always thought he would be fine if the guy
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: next to him was okay. I never thought Ronnie Harrison
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: was very good. I'll be honest with you, I never
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: really did. I may make a big thump every once
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: in a while, missed the signments, miss tackles. So I
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: think if he had a really good player next to Wilson,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: I think he'd be fine. Is the too safe? You know,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: the other safety. But the problem is now, when they
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: got to the other safety and and JP, you made
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: it sound like that they kind of hinted that Jones
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: would start there. Yeah, it sounded like it from from
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: what Doug Brown said today. They love the guy there. Wow,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: it's it's the turnaround of that secondary's incredible. Well, and
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: here's the thing we're all since he's been also worried
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: about the um up front, you know, the deepers one.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: When you start diving into the secondary, you're like, wait
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: a second, there's a lot of questions there as well.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a lot of young guys and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: that in surprises. You know, you look around, Uh, you
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: know with Ronnie Harrison not being there anymore, he's a
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: guy last year going in, Hey we got a good
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: safety group. Feel felt good about getting rid of Bury
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Church and uh and uh Gibson because you had Ronnie Harrison.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, twelve months later you're trading them and getting
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: rid of them because you want to go um with
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: the must I mean a much younger group. Josh Jones
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: actually has more experience in Ronnie Harrison correct correct, more
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: years in the league. But does he have more starts
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: to No, I don't let me look, I don't think so.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: But he started No, he's only started all games. Yeah,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: so just because you are in the league longer, wasn't
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: you have more experienced No? Well you make that argument
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: for Jared Wilson too. By the way, how many starts
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: to see having his career now? No, thirty, let's say
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: it's in the twenty better has more than you think
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: you guys, I'll look, but yeah, it's it's it's a
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: position that totally you know, the two safeties would flip.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: I mean the ones that played in seventeen because they
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: were older guys that you signed, so you knew they
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: were going out. But you, like Tony said, you thought,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: you thought that Ronnie Harrison will be one of those
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: safeties to take over. So last year Josh Jones was
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: in Dallas. Did he get cut or get hurt? What happened?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: I think he was a late add I think if
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: I got to remember that one. Hey, by the way,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Jared Wilson, how many starts eight yep, So that that's
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: kind of the same argument for him. Well, let's uh,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: it is what I would have I thought they might
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: start the rookie at safety, but they probably want a
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: little more experience back there. And and if I remember right,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Thomas had a little something during training camp injury wise,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: health wise, nothing major Daniel Thomas. We're talking about the rookie,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: so but he's obviously available on the roster and everything,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: but I think there might have been a little something there.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Let's pick the schedule now, guys, we're gonna this is
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: the one Tony loves to do because he goes on
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: record and it becomes a viral moment on social media
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: when Tony uh not only picks the Jaguars, in many games,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: which is great, you know, but then he doubles down
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: halfway home during the middle of the season. And this
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: is where it all begins though. And Tony, we'll get
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: your take on. We're gonna go game by games, so
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: keep telling yourselves, guys. Let's start Week one. The Jaguars
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: hosts the Indianapolis Colts at t i A. Bankfield. Tony,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: what do you got, No, Pete goes first. I'm the
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: star of the show, so I'll go after Pete goes.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: You're the star of the show. Are you talking about?
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: There's the star of you? You're the star only in
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: your own mind, I can say that. I think I
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: think the Colts win. The Colts will win, and it
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: will be close. I think it's gonna be that's my lock, close,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: really close. I think the heat's gonna bother the Colts.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a tough situation. People in
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: the crowd will get behind the Jaguars, and I think
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be close. Yeah, well, it's gonna
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: be interesting game. I think it's a slugfest actually, And
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: I think what happens is this offensive line takes him
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: to the victory and they beat up the front seven.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: I think they run it. They shocked the world um
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: with the run game, much like they did in seventeen
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: when they came out against the Texans. No one thought
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: they could run the ball. They did, and I think
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: the offensive line has a big day. Heat will be
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: a factor to wear out the Colts, and Gardner Minshew
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: will take him on a game winning drive at the
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: end with a thirty thirty eight year yard Josh Lambo
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: kicked to win by two. Wow. What I'm saying now,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing JP that he turned a flip the
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: switch like like an hour and a half. I do
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: not know what you're talking about, JP. Does ye week
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: to the Jaguars had to Disan Stadium in Nashville to
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: face the Tennessee Titans. No fans in the stands here, Pete, Well,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: they played so well that place in their history that
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: leads me to believe they're gonna play really well up there. Uh.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: I can't see henrt me going for two twenty again
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: or something like that. Titans win it by ten. Yeah,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: I all love this matchup with the no fans I
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: think works to the Jaguars benefit. I still think they
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: probably I just can't get it done at Diana. I
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: think they just barely lose, probably one or two point
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: lost in the Titans. Well, I got a mowing too,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: you got them one in ye. All right, let's go
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: to week three. It's a Thursday night nationally broadcast game
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: NFL Network. The Jaguars entertained the Miami Dolphins at PM
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Eastern time. Pete, that's their first victory. They're gonna get
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: it in front of the national audience. And uh, I
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: think Miami still rebuilding. Who knows, maybe two is in
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: by then. I think the Jaguars win that game tight,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: but the win by two or three. Now, it won't
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: be close. I think Jaguars win by two or three scores,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: dominating performance. The Dolphins are gonna be the everyone after
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: this game. After week three, we're gonna be asking the
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: question or the Dolphins tanking and the Jags pushed for
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. So wait, so you have them two and
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: one after three weeks, they'll be talking about the postseason
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: in September. Based on your logic, Okay, okay, Another Thursday,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: another Thursday night game with Gardner Minshew doing this doing
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: the guns on the desk. After the game on NFL
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Network j JP. If we put Tony Boselli on the
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: line detective test that we're going, yeah, well, we're gonna
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: we're gonna play along. Let's move this along. We're fairly
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: quickly here, guys. At Cincinnati Week four, pet Bengals win
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: the game two and two for the Jaguars. I think
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow by then will be settled in as a quarterback.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: I like the Bengals full too. Okay, Yeah, that means
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars are one three and one of three. That's right,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: one of three. I forgot, I got, I got. I
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: thought I was two and one. I was all discombribulated
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: over your picks because I know what you really do,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: I know what you're really I can't keep up what
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: you really thinking, what you're actually picking. So it's hard
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: to do for jack me. Three and one. They're gonna
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: come out of the first quarter of the season three
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: and one, the real deal. They dominate the youthful. The
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: youthful Jaguar comes or three and one going into week five. No,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: they're not as young as Joe brow Joe Burrows young too.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: You have Sella, you have the three in one, Okay,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: let's go. We're getting in October now at Houston. I
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: don't think the Texans are that good. They'll hang around
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: in the game, but the Texans will find a way
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: to win it. With the Watson drive late. They win
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: by a touchdown. How about that? Yeah? I think this
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: is like, this is revenge gate. This is a big
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: deal because Gardner feels like he got robbed. It should
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: have gone for They shouldn't. They should have kicked the field,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: gone gone to overtime where and she would have won it.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Last year they went for two and four, Net couldn't
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: get it in mids. She wants revenge and he's gonna
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: get it. They win by seven. Six weeks six, the
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Jaguars host the Detroit Lions. Pete, what do you got
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: for us? Quickly? I don't. I don't think they're gonna
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: be able to slow down Stafford that passing game. I
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: think the Lions will go in there and win the game.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Lions win. They scored thirty three in that game. Very great. Wow, Yeah,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: I actually think I think I think Jaguars get caught
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: sleepwalking a little bit. We're gonnall fold themselves at four
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: and one to lead the NFC South and uh, they
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: have a letdown. I think I think the Lion to
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: win next week. Week seven is the bye week. Jaguars
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: win when then then week when the Chargers in l A.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: P Uh that Chargers defense is too good. I think
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: they're gonna struggle out there. They've always struggled out West.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: They'll continue to do that. Chargers win the game. Yeah,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: it's It's a definitely home field advantage for the Chargers
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: because they're used to playing in front of the fans,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: and so they're gonna be very used to Hey, they
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: can say that about the Jaguars, dude, so um but no, no, no,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: derwin James hurts that team. Uh still be good on
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: defense though, I think that. I think the Chargers um
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: play well but not enough. I think Minshew continues his
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: West Coast magic and he started last year up in Oakland.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: Jaguars win Gus Bradley revenge the Jags first visit to
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: so FI Stadium in l A. Week nine, Well, the
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: JAG's got the revenge win apparently a few weeks earlier
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: in Houston. How about at home against the Excellence Pete.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: I think they win that game. That's when those young
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: kids start growing up a little bit. I think Minshew
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: will have a good game. I don't believe in the
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: Texans defense. I like I like the Jaguars to win
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: that game. That gets their second win. So yeah, so
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: you have met two and six. Yeah, right now, I'm
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: five and two to it. They win, They're gonna be
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: the talk of the of the country after the first
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: half of the season. Six and two not only leave
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: the MC South, but a chance to have home field
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: advantage unbelievable. And if the Jaguars at this point are
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: six and two, then all of a sudden, there'll be
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of flexed games coming up on the schedule
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: because the next week the Jaguars are at lambeau Field
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  Speaker 1: against the Green Bay Packers. Pete, what do you oh?
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  Speaker 1: That's blowout city. They Rogers lights them up. Uh. They
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Packers win by I'm not sure Aaron Rodgers will still
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  Speaker 1: be your quarterback. Might be Drew Love or what's his
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: name quarterback? He's the third quarterback, by the way, he
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: didn't even beat out Tim Boyle. Yeah, I don't like
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  Speaker 1: what's his day, Jim what's his name? Jordan ub Um? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I like the Packers again, I think it was young
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Jaguar team gets a little ahead of themselves. UM probably
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: loses about it. Wait Field Boat game gets the Packers
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  Speaker 1: over the top. Uh, two and seven. We gotta get
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  Speaker 1: through the rest of these quick. We could eleven home
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  Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh. Pete. No, not winning that one either, Tony
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: always be Pittsburgh easy. Win home against the Browns the
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison revenge game, Pete, I think they win that game.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars win that game and get their
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: third victory. The brown or fraud Jags win at the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Vikings the Unique and Gay revenge game. He might sound
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: the galler horn himself. Pete. Yeah, well, they've never every
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: time that they've gone up there, and they've had problems
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: when they're short history, and they will have more problems.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: Blowout City Vikings big. Yeah, I don't like that game.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: The Vikings win home against the Titans week fourteen December.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: They win that game. By that time, their defense is
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: playing better. They'll slow down Henry. They win that game
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: for fourth victory. Yeah, I've been shooting the Titans. The
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: Titans aren't mentally tough. I think they're living off last
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: year's Acto legs, and I think they have a tough year.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: Jags win Wow at the Ravens. Tough game in Baltimore, Pete.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: That's ugly. Lamar Jackson will destroy them. Ugly game blow out.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Um yeah, I don't love the matchup. I think it's
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: closer than any one thinks. But I think Baltimore gets
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: to win ultimate home gets the Bears in Week sixteen.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: They have a legitimate chance to win that. That could
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: be Nick Foles Revens game by then. Um, I still
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: think they win. That's a game they win at home.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: They win that game, Oh, the no brainer. They win
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: that game, especially if Nick Folds is starting. And then
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: weeks seventeen, Jags at the Colts Pete, Well, the Colts
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: will be playing for the division and seeding. The Genuards
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: will be playing for nothing. Colts win it five and eleven.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: Where what do I have met right now? JP? I've
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: lost track totally think you have right around right now? Yeah,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: I think that's right. I'm moving for so far. So
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: this will be a game that will be on Sunday
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: Night Football, just so you know, because the winner, the
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: winner wins the division. The loser goes to the wild card.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: I just think it's a little too much for Minshew
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: and his crew. I think they end up losing and
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: end up at eleven and five, so they're gonna have
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: to travel the wild card path to get to the
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Tony. Yeah, yep. If they get to eleven wins,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: it will be one of the greatest football miracles of
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: all time. There's no chick Okay, what do you think
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: the odds and the Jaguars eleven games in. I don't
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: think you can even get that, Pat bro Oh my god,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: eleven If that's JP, this is the worst he's ever
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: been with this stuff. What do you feel listing? If
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: they winning every he gets extended. Get ready? That's right?
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: What do you mean there's no chance if they went
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: eleven and five and went through the playoffs, which will
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: never happen, then everybody would come back, right and Minshew
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: would clearly be your quarterback in the future. Yeah, I'm
• 1:17:17
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• 1:17:26
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  Speaker 1: Let's start off with at traffic of Jason. How's the
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: offensive wine looking this year? Health and talent wise? Tony
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  Speaker 1: want to take this one. Yeah, health is good. I
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: mean they really have anything in camp, so, I mean
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  Speaker 1: they're healthy. That's some good news. Um, they are talent wide.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think I said it earlier. Individually, I
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  Speaker 1: think they had talent. Can they pull together? Can they
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: be consistent? That's gonna be the big test for them
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  Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I agree. Again, it's all about Cam
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: Robinson for me. If he takes the next step, they
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: should be pretty good on the offensive line. I think
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: Taylor is gonna be a big time player, but consistency
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  Speaker 1: from week to week and play to play has to
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  Speaker 1: next question from at flash Ta ta, Why do people
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: assume it's a good decision to draft Trevor Lawrence when
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: the old line is still a problem. Obviously this person
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: things differently than than what you do. Tell me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you have the first overall pick, the
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: reason you picked Trevor Lawrence is because he's the best
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  Speaker 1: player we're assuming, I mean, based on everything we know today,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: he will be the best player in all of college
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: football and possibly a generational quarterback in most people's minds.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: So that's why you picked him, pretty easy. And the
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: great quarterbacks cure your ills, and and if you have
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: ills on defense and it was on offense, they will
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: cure him for you. So to pick a quarterback, yeah,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: I agree that the one the one position they can't
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: cure completely is the offensive line. But Brady helped make
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: his offensive line and Peyton, right, I agree with that, right,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: get the ball out, well, you know help yeah, yeah.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: And the other argument to those is Indie right, they
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: didn't give him enough help on that old line and
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: he got banged up and beat up and out of
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: the league and what seven years? Oh Andrew Luck, Andrew Luck. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: I mean he got beat up pretty good early in
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: his career there. But like for example, I'll go back
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: to the Colt offensive line to Peyton was there. Tark
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: Land was a pretty good player, but for the most part,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: and Jeff Saturday is pretty good center, but for the
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: most part, that was just a group made up of
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: guys well and New and New England is New England
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: ever had really really dominant offensive lineman Tony No, but
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: good ones did really well coach a scheme that correct,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Like Matt Lighte was a good player, and they were
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: good players. They weren't dominant players. The ball got out quick. Yeah,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: I mean you look at how that whole system was
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: built around Peyton Um Howard Mudd who just recently passed
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: away after a motorcycle accident, a great offensive line coach.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, everything was in concert together, meeting like the
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: depth of Peyton's drops, how they set they knew the
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: ball is gonna be out. You know, we wanted to
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: protect him inside out Um. And so yeah, I think
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: it's great quarterback play. A offensive coordinator and offensive line
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: coach that are in uh, working in tandem, which would
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: shock people. Doesn't always happen, uh, And so the combination
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: made them you know, good players played great together. That
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: was my whole point, Pete about this offensive line, Like
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: the offensive lot isn't always just about great individual talent.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: It's how the five worked together and play together in
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: the system. You know what's funny that when we talk
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: about the offensive lines and the great teams and stuff.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: If you go back, can look at with the great
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: the teams with great quarterbacks. For example, when Elway was
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: in Denver, he had Gary Zimmerman, which was a really
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: good but he didn't have them all the time. Tony Jones, Yeah,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: his life was pretty good. Yeah, Nalen, Yeah, his line
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: was pretty good. Was a good player, Bill Jim Kelly
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: had a great offensive lie by the way, Joe Montana,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Harris Barton just he's a polo. I mean, you'd go
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: down the Keith van Van worst but yeah, yeah, they Yeah,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: he had a good offensive line. Tryan Quill in the
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: center was a good player. Yeah, he had Montana. There
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: were good most of the good teams, the really good
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: teams have good offensive Our next question from at dari eleven,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: what exactly does the mic communicate prior to the snap
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: of the ball. In addition, what is being said to
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: him from the sideline into his helmet speaker. Well, the
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: mike is the middle linebacker for anyone who doesn't know
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: the terminology, but where the linebackers go is Mike's mental
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: will is weak side and sam and strung side linebacker. Um.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: The mic or middle linebacker usually as the coach to
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: quarterback um in his helmet as long as he's an
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: every down linebacker. So sometimes it's the will linebacker because
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: he's more of a he might be on the UH.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: They might take the mic out if he's not a
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: guy who can play in sub third down packages. Anyways,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: whoever ends up having to UH the headset is being
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: told what defensive coverage or a defensive front defensive coverage,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: So what's the defensive play they want to play on
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: that calling that play, and that's what he's gonna getting
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: to the rest of the team. Does Showbert something? Linebackers
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: have the ability to change it at the last second,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: you know, like based on what happened, like change the
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: coverage or something that. Will he have that? I'm sure
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: you will, Oh yeah, based on yeah, yeah, you have
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: rules based on if they go by three by one
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: and we're in you know, we're in a cover three
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: and they go three and by what we wanted, it's
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: gonna be automatic, go to cover four. You know what's
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: interesting about that, Tony, we hadn't really talk much about
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: show Bert. What what have you seen from him as
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: a middle linebacker? I mean what I saw in Cleveland smart,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: athletic and run, not a thumper, didn't pass coverage, you know,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: solid player he was. He was a pretty good player
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Not a great player, but it's pretty good player.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Good in coverage. Um yeah, so hell, But he's not
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: a thumper. Beat No, he will, which is a problem
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: if the teams start running on you, that's a problem.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: But he he will make jack a better player. I
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: think I think that works two ways because I think, well,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: Jackson a better position. First and foremost, I think that's
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: his position. I always thought it was his position. You
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: didn't basically, I sure I knew now because it wasn't Mike. Well,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: it wasn't Mike, and it wasn't a strong side. Remember
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: when he played the strong side. That was so masterly
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: what we're saying, we're hoping it's a position that if
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: it's that, there's nothing left. Well, yeah there is. It's
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: a bench. But he's a weak side linebacker who needed
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: to I don't know I thought he I don't. He
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: wasn't big enough to thump in the run game, that
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: was for sure. He's a big dude. He's big, but
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: he don't pay. You don't play big. I don't think
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: that's his issue. What he got lost at times? It
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: looked like to me he got lost in the middle linebacker.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: So maybe it was just too much. I mean maybe,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it was overwhelming for him all that.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It just didn't look like he was
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: ever comfortable. I will say this, maybe that was around
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: him all right. Well, if he doesn't play well, will
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: linebacker that he's woefully overpaid? How about that? That's an
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: accurate statement. Let's get to our final question from at
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: Polster thirty eight. Do you think Channa will play running
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: back at all? And who gets the most series at
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: running back Sunday? No, you will not play running back
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: Um Robinson. I think Thompson will get the most snaps,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: Robinson will get the most carries. That's what I think. Wow, Wow,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: undrafted rookie coming in hot, coming in hot. Baby, you're
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: good things about him. I haven't seen him, but I
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: hear good things about him. What do you That's why
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: I love when people say that you're a good thing.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: What has he done? It's been too hand touch on
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: the practice field and like what hey, after the first
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: practice you told me that one of your draft picks
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: couldn't play a lick and that was in this miniki.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: So you you do. I can tell. I'm an expert,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: did you not? Is that not a true story? True story?
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: And was that not right? You were that right? Were
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: you in pads By when you said that? No, he
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: was in a minicamp Tony, So you can tell. So
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: I just just just throughout your theory right there. You
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: can tell as long as it's someone as smart as
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: I am that told you that you did that. You
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: did that more than once too. By the way, I
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: was never wrong ever, and I know you weren't. I
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: would give you credit for that. I could tell, by
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: the way. Chris Thompson the other day said that Robinson
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: has the best vision of the visit group. At least
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: right now. We don't didn't have any vision. He's no longer.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: There are shots of a guy back in a moment.
• 1:30:56
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  Speaker 1: six years what hundred and seventy million dollars more like
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• 1:44:42
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• 1:47:07
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• 1:47:41
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• 1:47:53
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  Speaker 1: He just messes things up. Okay, but Seattle has a
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• 1:48:14
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• 1:48:24
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• 1:48:27
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• 1:48:32
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• 1:48:36
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• 1:48:40
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  Speaker 1: Tony's has gotta be reflected his record. So I got
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  Speaker 1: the Colts one, the Titans to the Texas three, and
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars four. Jagspectives go into the wild card berth
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  Speaker 1: apparently to let's go around the National Football League now
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  Speaker 1: a waiver claims down this year. NFL Networks Tom Pallisero
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  Speaker 1: reported that over the past ten years, the average number
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  Speaker 1: of posts cut down waiver claims league lie was about
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  Speaker 1: forty one and the lack of preseason games and some
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  Speaker 1: opportunities or workouts are part of the reason why seven
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  Speaker 1: team were claimed this year. Pete, that's down a lot.
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  Speaker 1: It's different, and you're gonna see a lot of shuffling
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  Speaker 1: of rosters throughout the season because okay, let's say, uh
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  Speaker 1: the j Wars keep they kept two of those young
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  Speaker 1: kids at the end, and then they play a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: whether it be on special teams or whatever, and they
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  Speaker 1: can't handle it. Then you don't you don't know what
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  Speaker 1: they can do in a game. So maybe they won't
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  Speaker 1: be able to handle a game. Maybe they freeze up
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  Speaker 1: on game day. Tony, Ever, play with a guy who
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  Speaker 1: froze up on game day. You look great practice, but
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  Speaker 1: game day came and he froze up. You know these
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  Speaker 1: guys will do I want to say guys froze up.
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  Speaker 1: But you definitely have guys who can do it on
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  Speaker 1: the practice field, but can't translate it to the game field.
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  Speaker 1: That's freezing up. It's that freezing up in practice. It's
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  Speaker 1: scripted like you know the situation, like okay, it's one
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  Speaker 1: on one pass rushes, you know this, Like you have
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  Speaker 1: to like in game days war, you have to react.
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  Speaker 1: You have to be able to handle the game situation.
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  Speaker 1: And some guys can't do that. Skype feats froze up today.
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  Speaker 1: Me and Tony had like off air conversations why j
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  Speaker 1: B was frozen in time. Let's move along here. Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick is the Week one starter for the Dolphins against
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots. Not to uh, of course, how about this pete.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick was a seventh round pick and oh five
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  Speaker 1: out of Harvard. Of course. Including the eight million dollars
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  Speaker 1: he's do this year, Fitzpatrick will have made over seventy
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  Speaker 1: one million dollars in his career. That's incredible. Remember when
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  Speaker 1: remember when Buffalo gave him the big extension. I remember
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  Speaker 1: writing the whole thing saying what a mistake that was,
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  Speaker 1: and it proved it's proven to be that. Look, he's
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  Speaker 1: a good I call him the helium balloon because his
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  Speaker 1: ball stays in the air for a week and a half.
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  Speaker 1: But he's actually proven to be a pre decent quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: He should be a backup. He should be a long
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  Speaker 1: time backup, is what he should be. Miami's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: caught a situation. What if they're competitive a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: then they play him the entire season. You don't want that.
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  Speaker 1: You want to get on the tour. You want to
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  Speaker 1: get through that as fast as you can. But if
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  Speaker 1: they're competitive, I think he stays in there. Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Fitzpatrick fits Magic. It's magic, great story. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's he's a strong backup. He'd be a
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  Speaker 1: great backup on your roster um and but he's made
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  Speaker 1: the most of his situation on the opportunities that he's had,
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  Speaker 1: and I take my hat off to him. Speaking of
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  Speaker 1: strong backup, Smith Robinsky is the starting quarterback for the
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  Speaker 1: Bears and Nick Foles is the backup in Chicago. Pet
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. We had a conversation on our show
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  Speaker 1: the other day about that. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: guys saw the clip they sent out where I said,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really matter and either one of them said he could.
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  Speaker 1: Neither one of them is a good quarterback. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's still Nick Foles. God bless you have the
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  Speaker 1: greatest aberration season or playoff run in history. You aren't
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  Speaker 1: very good If you can't beat up Mr Robinsky, you
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  Speaker 1: clearly are very good, and Mr Whisky is not very good.
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  Speaker 1: So who cares who starts? Can you imagine that in
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  Speaker 1: Chicago Bears than traded up, gave up draft capital to
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  Speaker 1: go get Mitchell Jobisky when Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes
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  Speaker 1: were there on the board. Was his best taking your
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  Speaker 1: running back forth overall in that draft? Yeah? But Ryan?
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  Speaker 1: Does Ryan Pace get any criticism for that? I mean yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And I think don't you think that's the reason why
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  Speaker 1: Drabinsky starting Whether I don't know the competition, but maybe
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  Speaker 1: he played because he knew the offensive, but he knows
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  Speaker 1: the offense too Folds because he played in it before.
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  Speaker 1: Don't I just think there's sometimes Look, if Pace picked
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  Speaker 1: Drabinsky had made the movie to go get it, Naggy
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  Speaker 1: Pace or tied to Drabinsky. So if Drabinsky doesn't play, well,
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  Speaker 1: they're all out anyways. If they play Folds and they
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  Speaker 1: don't play, they're all out anyway. So you might as
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  Speaker 1: well take your shot with Jabinsky. Yeah crazy, let's be
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  Speaker 1: honest about it. You're not very nice thought around the league.
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  Speaker 1: The Raiders sent in third round picked Lynn Bowden and
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  Speaker 1: a sixth round pick to the Dolphins in return for
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  Speaker 1: a fourth round picked uh. He said it was a
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  Speaker 1: football decision, only, Pete. That's pretty rare. You trade a
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  Speaker 1: guy you've picked in this draft before he's played a game. Man,
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  Speaker 1: stories come out. There wasn't a football decision. He's had
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  Speaker 1: some He had a hard life, the kid, and so
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  Speaker 1: when he got to Vegas, they thought he was more
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  Speaker 1: concerned about what was going on away from football, and
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  Speaker 1: they felt he might be And I didn't know this
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  Speaker 1: for a fact, but I read it where he might
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  Speaker 1: be a banded influence on Henry Ruggs and and Brian Edwards,
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  Speaker 1: the two young receivers that actually are going to start
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  Speaker 1: for the Raiders. I think that was a bad situation.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why it ended up that way. Yeah, receiver
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  Speaker 1: and then quarterback, and they hadn't had a running back.
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  Speaker 1: That was dumb that he's a pretty slot receiver. That's
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  Speaker 1: what he should all right, guy as well done. Next week,
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  Speaker 1: we'll be recapping the Jaguars Week one performance against the
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  Speaker 1: Indianapolis coult We'll see you then, Pete Tony the Pete Frisco,
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