Latest / CattleUSA Daily / 220: Not the “Worst Winter Ever”: What the Real Long-Range Forecast Says for 2025–26 with Gary Lezak
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- 0:00In today's episode of the Cattle USA Daily podcast, we are
- 0:03bringing back on Gary Lee Zach and he is breaking down at the
- 0:06winter weather forecast for all of us AG producers out there.
- 0:10Gary is breaking down kind of what we can anticipate and
- 0:12expect as we go into the rest of December's, maybe some winter
- 0:17storms or ice storms for the plains on the horizon for the
- 0:21week of Christmas. And just what we can anticipate
- 0:25as the rest of this pattern continues to set up.
- 0:27And what Gary's thoughts are on droughts, on winter storms, on
- 0:32just moisture in general as we go into this winter.
- 0:36So before we hop into this podcast episode with Gary, you
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- 1:03industry insights and the updates shaping agriculture
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- 1:08passionate advocate for agriculture here to keep you
- 1:11informed and connected. Now let's dive into today's
- 1:14episode. Gary, welcome back to the
- 1:23podcast. You have had a very busy week
- 1:26kind of all over the place. How how's life in Colorado?
- 1:29How are you doing? Well, I'm doing fantastic.
- 1:32I just got back from Grand Island, NE.
- 1:35I drove 6 hours there on on Monday and they put me up in
- 1:40this nice hotel so that was good.
- 1:42I brought Rainbow and Sunny with me.
- 1:46I don't know if you saw any of my social post, but I, I showed
- 1:50off my my there Rainbow and Sunny's elevator etiquette
- 1:55because when we get in the elevator, I go elevator and it's
- 1:58like it's basically a sit command by your elevator.
- 2:01So they know we're in elevators. They both sit.
- 2:03It's so cute. There's something like this
- 2:05while the elevator is moving and but we were at the Grand Island
- 2:09resort and casino, so a nice, it was actually a nice brand new
- 2:12hotel. And then I talked to crop
- 2:16consultants yesterday in Nebraska and then I great
- 2:23questions, great conversation. We introduced the winter
- 2:25forecast. We'll talk about that in a
- 2:27second. And then we then I drove home
- 2:29and on the way home yesterday, it was a crazy tumbleweed storm
- 2:35because it was very windy. It's been dry.
- 2:38And so all these tumbleweeds are crossing the road and these
- 2:41semis, they're like tilting like I'm going to die.
- 2:45This this semis is going to tilt and it's one of them is going to
- 2:49fall. And so I would go past semis
- 2:52real fast because I didn't every every second of your life, your
- 2:56life could be in jeopardy there. So but a few times tumbleweeds
- 3:00come right out in front of the semi and then smash right into
- 3:03my car. So.
- 3:05It was Western Nebraska is brutal to drive through
- 3:09sometimes, especially in those windy days, because there is
- 3:12nothing stopping that wind or slowing it down or anything.
- 3:16It is just, it's insane. Yeah, it was, it was a a nice
- 3:21ride home. But yeah, the dogs had a good
- 3:22trip. I had a good trip.
- 3:23I'm back in Golden, Co studying this weather pattern.
- 3:26It's still very complex. We're learning a lot more.
- 3:29So I'm going to take your questions today about the winter
- 3:32forecast and that is out now. And you can actually see the
- 3:37link of the Weather 2020 YouTube channel that will put a link on
- 3:41there for you to look at. But but I I rearranged it with
- 3:45the one that I wrote into the video.
- 3:47So it's pretty cool showing the two phases of the weather
- 3:50pattern that we're about to experience for the next year
- 3:52ahead. So exciting.
- 3:54I am ecstatic to break it down today.
- 3:58So what is just your initial thoughts on the weather pattern
- 4:03and kind of what we're seeing right now and then we can get
- 4:05into the nitty gritty? The first topic that can come up
- 4:07is there going to be a drought this season?
- 4:10Right now it doesn't appear there is going to be, but the
- 4:13drought is not shrinking or contracting.
- 4:15So areas that are not in drought are not in drought.
- 4:19Areas that are in just slightly dry are slightly dry.
- 4:24And in the next two or three months, we're going to see if
- 4:27they expand across Nebraska, Kansas and Missouri.
- 4:32My initial instincts say that there's going to be enough
- 4:34moisture, so probably not a major concern for drought, but
- 4:37we have to, I'm not totally on that conclusion yet.
- 4:41So that's the first thing. Second thing, we have two main
- 4:44phases of the weather pattern. One that brings these systems
- 4:47across the southern part of Canada.
- 4:50They called Alberta Clippers, you probably heard that term.
- 4:52The systems come across Montana and North Dakota, clip Alberta,
- 4:57and then dive through the Great Lakes.
- 4:59Chicago's already had 17 inches of snow this winter so far, it's
- 5:03not even winter and our model shows 37 inches after January
- 5:061st. That'd be 55 inches at least for
- 5:09them this winter the way things are looking, if not 75 inches of
- 5:12snow. So the Great Lakes are in one of
- 5:14those hot spots for winter storms.
- 5:17As we look in Colorado, there's a 40% probability that then we
- 5:25right now there's a 60 to 80% probability is going to be a dry
- 5:29winter. I mean below average snowfall.
- 5:33Breckenridge, Co, Aspen, Co Vail, you go to the Colorado ski
- 5:37resorts, Winter Park, whichever 1 you choose, it's right now
- 5:41about 40% average of average snowfall.
- 5:45Let's say they get 300 inches of snow during a winter.
- 5:47That means they're probably going to get 150 to 200 inches
- 5:51of snow. Great.
- 5:52That's a lot of snow. But for the scary is that's half
- 5:56of normal. So that is a problem for them.
- 6:00There's a problem for fire season is probably for drought
- 6:02over the Rockies. So that could be a concern.
- 6:05It's not necessary the wettest spot in the world anyway.
- 6:08But that is extended out across Denver, out across the cattle
- 6:11ranches, over western Nebraska, western Kansas, and it's a
- 6:16concern. So we'll have to watch that dry
- 6:18area and see if it's growing through winter.
- 6:21If it's growing through winter, we'll look at the spring
- 6:25outlook. But right now there is some
- 6:27concern there. So this, the first phase of the
- 6:31weather pattern, brings those systems to the Great Lakes and
- 6:34through Des Moines, IA. The phase two-part of the
- 6:38weather pattern, which lasts for about 10 days, brings storms
- 6:42into California and I think that that might amplify around mid
- 6:47January and mid February and also late the late December.
- 6:52We'll see you. There's an opportunity the jet
- 6:55string can get really strong into the Southwest and that
- 6:57could bring some rain and snow to the plains and possibly an
- 7:00ice storm. Overall, it's it's a unique
- 7:04pattern the LRC sets up every year in October, November.
- 7:08We went through it. I don't like it personally.
- 7:12I mean, I shouldn't take it personal, but I do.
- 7:15I mean, I want an exciting winter.
- 7:17Where I live. I love snow and we've had 7.7
- 7:20inches of snow with our first snow.
- 7:22It was the latest, first snow in Golden, CO's history.
- 7:26I don't like the weather pattern.
- 7:27It's it's but I I can't do anything about it.
- 7:32Yeah, yeah, definitely. I'm not loving this weather
- 7:35pattern either, especially for a lot of our agricultural belt.
- 7:39We're seeing some concerns of drought like you touched on and
- 7:42just different areas like that, that nothing's growing or
- 7:45shrinking right now. It's just kind of all staying
- 7:48pretty stable. But I know for some people
- 7:50that's a big concern considering they've been in a drought for a
- 7:54while or different things like that.
- 7:55So what other details of this weather pattern do we kind of
- 8:00need to break down, Gary, what are some other thoughts that you
- 8:02have as we prepare for this next year?
- 8:05Some of these social media stars in meteorology, one of them, his
- 8:08name is Max Velocity is like last working years coming down.
- 8:14This is the worst winter in the history of the history of the
- 8:17world of the universe. This is so bad and yet it's
- 8:23going to be in the 60s next week.
- 8:25OK. So it's not going to be the
- 8:27worst winter ever. These exaggerated forecasts are
- 8:30not good for weather 2020 in the LRC because we do have a system
- 8:35that can actually predict beyond 15 days and those others do not
- 8:41have a system that works we do. So as soon as we get another
- 8:47couple weeks, we're going to be able to plan January through
- 8:51May, planting in the growing, the beginning of growing season
- 8:54accurately on wet, which weeks will be wet, which weeks will be
- 8:58dry? And it's not going to be the
- 8:59worst winter in the history of mankind.
- 9:03These warmups are dramatic. And there's one big one coming
- 9:06our way next week. So we'll see there will still be
- 9:10some Arctic blast and then a real true Arctic blast may still
- 9:14come down sometime. It has been true Arctic cold
- 9:17where it snowed up in Minnesota. It's been down to 20 and 30°
- 9:20below 0. So I don't want to dampen that.
- 9:25I mean, it really has been cold in a few spots, but it's warmed
- 9:28up right away. So we're fortunate so far.
- 9:32So UPS the downs. The storm systems have not been
- 9:36major yet. Yeah, Chicago's had 17 inches of
- 9:39snow, but in like 4 snows. So it's like 4 inches here, 6
- 9:42inches there, 4 inches here. And there hasn't been one of
- 9:44those two foot blizzards yet. And so will that happen?
- 9:50I want to see this year's LRC produce one of those before I
- 9:54get excited about it, because there hasn't really been one.
- 9:58Very interesting, very interesting.
- 9:59I think it's going to be really cool to see this weather pattern
- 10:02breakdown over the rest of winter and as we kind of plan
- 10:05out into spring of what that spring rainfall is then going to
- 10:09look like. Because if we have a dry winter,
- 10:11is that also going to produce a dry spring?
- 10:14And if we have a dry spring, we all know that that's some area
- 10:18for concern for a lot of areas. We all want to get some good
- 10:22moisture over the winter, but spring is definitely an area
- 10:26that we need to get that as well.
- 10:28I agree with you in that it's going to be pretty warm here in
- 10:31Kansas next week, but then it's going to get really cold after
- 10:34that. So I'm trying to mentally
- 10:35prepare myself for the really freezing temps like we've been
- 10:40in the 30s and 40s, which is tolerable, right?
- 10:43Like I can get out on a morning walk with the dogs and the, when
- 10:47it's like 35 and just bundle up, put my heated vest on and, and
- 10:50I'm OK, I'm OK. But when that wind starts
- 10:53blowing and it starts getting like 4° zero in the negatives,
- 10:58I'm like, oh, I don't like this anymore.
- 11:01I'm, I'm over it. I'm done.
- 11:03Yeah, We have to watch that phase two-part of the pattern
- 11:06that is due in about 10 days. We'll talk about it next week.
- 11:11But that that that part of the pattern could bring a big winter
- 11:16storm and a cold blast, but right around holiday week.
- 11:19So maybe there's a chance of a white Christmas.
- 11:21We'll see. That would be very exciting
- 11:23because we have not gone very much snow here in Kansas.
- 11:27We got that one storm a few weeks ago, but that has kind of
- 11:31been it. So it's been a abnormally warm
- 11:35and abnormally dry December for us so far.
- 11:38So try not to jinx us too much, because Lord knows that late
- 11:41January and February is going to come and then I'm going to be
- 11:43eating my words. But.
- 11:45Then spring will coming. You'll be so happy.
- 11:48Exactly. Then I'll be talking about the
- 11:50light at the end of the tunnel, doing all the things right now
- 11:53to beat that seasonal depression and really try and absorb the
- 11:58absorb the nice days while we've got it.
- 12:01Well, that's why you hit the road on the road, by the way, I
- 12:04drove by dairy farms and some cattle ranchers, I'm sure.
- 12:08And it was interesting is like there's a whole bunch of cattle
- 12:12here that a whole bunch of cattle there.
- 12:13And then I passed this dairy farm and it's like it was just
- 12:16really interesting driving across Nebraska.
- 12:18And for me, I was not bored on my ride at all.
- 12:22I love driving across and seeing all the all the landscaping in
- 12:26Nebraska and Kansas. I know some people say it's
- 12:28boring going across Kansas, but it's it's a, it isn't,
- 12:32especially when there's clouds in the sky and when there's
- 12:35tumbleweeds pounding your car and then just tumbleweeds.
- 12:38But it was, it was pretty treacherous fun ride out there.
- 12:42But yeah, it was good to see all the the cattle and see all the
- 12:45fields and all the cornfields and, and I talked to Nebraska
- 12:50Cornhuskers. I love it.
- 12:52I love it. Well, Gary, are there any other
- 12:54kind of highlights within the winter weather forecast that we
- 12:57haven't hit on? A lot of things go over in the
- 13:01next few weeks, but one thing to watch for is this.
- 13:04The remember there's two phases. The phase of the weather pattern
- 13:07that brings the storm systems into the West Coast.
- 13:10I'm waiting for that return. So it might be a really long
- 13:13cycle because it hasn't returned yet and it should by around the
- 13:1720th. So Christmas getting into close
- 13:21to Christmas week, we'll look for a storm hitting California
- 13:24again. Then we got to watch that
- 13:26because that could be a big storm for the players, ice and
- 13:29snow. So we'll look at that next week.
- 13:32We should have an idea if that's happening.
- 13:34Wonderful, wonderful. Well, to all of our listeners
- 13:36out there, if you want more information on the winter
- 13:38weather forecast, I have Gary's YouTube video linked down below
- 13:41where you can go check that out on his channel as well and all
- 13:45of the Weather 2020 links down there.
- 13:47Gary, as always, thank you so much for your time.
- 13:50And to all of our listeners, we will see you all next time on
- 13:52another episode of the Cattle USA Daily Podcast.
- 13:55We'll see you all next time.