Latest / OverClocked ReMix Podcast / August 2025
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- 0:58SPEAKER_00: Hello and welcome to the Overclock Remix Podcast, the best way to get your OCR news and new music while writing a Yoshi.
- 1:06SPEAKER_00: This is episode number 10, which is the first episode I have needed all of my fingers to count.
- 1:11SPEAKER_00: From here on out, I'm gonna start using toes.
- 1:14SPEAKER_00: Today we're going to be listening to all the new music from August 2025.
- 1:19SPEAKER_00: On the topic of fingers, though, I've never really understood why in games you're always limited to like two magic rings.
- 1:26SPEAKER_00: You get so many more than that.
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: Most video game characters have eight to ten fingers, and I'd have rings on each.
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: I would double up, I'd have multiple rings on each finger.
- 1:39SPEAKER_00: Then I'd start on the toes! I do worry, maybe, about what the effects might be.
- 1:46SPEAKER_00: Maybe it would be like in Cyberpunk, where you get too much chrome and you start to go cyber psycho.
- 1:52SPEAKER_00: Or maybe you just become irresistible to Sauron.
- 1:56SPEAKER_00: Anyway, our intro music this month was Mushroom Madness from New Super Mario Brothers by J.
- 2:02SPEAKER_00: Redd.
- 2:03SPEAKER_00: Alright.
- 2:04SPEAKER_00: That's enough about me rambling about fingers and toes and magic rings.
- 2:08SPEAKER_00: Let's talk the news.
- 2:54SPEAKER_00: I am very much looking forward to some spooky tracks.
- 2:58SPEAKER_00: The tentative track list has a few of my favorite remixers signed up, and a good mix of tracks from spooky games and what I assume are going to be spooky remixes of not spooky games.
- 3:09SPEAKER_00: We've got Castlevania, we've got some Final Fantasy, I think this is gonna be a good time.
- 3:14SPEAKER_00: And speaking of holiday remixes, the Coop has made their yearly, hey, Christmas is coming thread, and you know that means an overclocked Christmas is also coming.
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: A handful of remixers signed up so far?
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: Nothing concrete yet about what they might be remixing, but I'm looking forward to whatever it is.
- 3:34SPEAKER_00: And of course, between writing and recording, OCR Shadow dropped a new album, a four-song Hollow Knight EP by Demonds.
- 3:43SPEAKER_00: It's called A Night for a Night, night with a K in both instances.
- 3:47SPEAKER_00: We'll cover it in detail next month, but if you can't wait that long, check out OCRemix.org.
- 3:54SPEAKER_00: Our news music this month was Pickin' Colors from Mario Paint by Dabadab.
- 4:00SPEAKER_00: One of our few bluegrass remixes, I really wish we had more of those.
- 4:05SPEAKER_00: I grew up in Appalachia, so I do have a fondness and appreciation for well-executed bluegrass.
- 4:13SPEAKER_00: Alright, let's get to the new music starting with Flama de Vampiri from Darkstalkers by Seven Eyes and Pixel Ceph.
- 9:53SPEAKER_00: I love how the track starts with this organ and then segues into just this lovely dark violin and piano, and then suddenly synthwave.
- 10:01SPEAKER_00: The quality is great throughout.
- 10:03SPEAKER_00: The piano and strings in particular are just great.
- 10:06SPEAKER_00: They remind me of the Final Fantasy XV dungeon music.
- 10:09SPEAKER_00: The synth wave is perfect to just the right amount of crunch.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: You know, it's funny, I've played Darkstalkers, but fighting game music just never really sticks in my head for whatever reason unless I've played it a lot.
- 10:22SPEAKER_00: I guess I'm just focusing too much on what's going on on screen.
- 10:27SPEAKER_00: As for crediting, most of the track is Newcomer Seven Eyes.
- 10:31SPEAKER_00: Yet another classic Newcomer's mistake, setting expectations sky high for the next one.
- 10:37SPEAKER_00: The guitar solo towards the end was the work of Pixel Ceph.
- 10:40SPEAKER_00: Up next, we've got The Madness of Luca Blight by Mel Decision from Suicid and 2.
- 15:37SPEAKER_00: Oh, I like that.
- 15:38SPEAKER_00: It's electronic.
- 15:41SPEAKER_00: Tons of time signature changes and melodically interesting things.
- 15:46SPEAKER_00: I don't have the vocabulary to describe it well, but the aggressive whispered vocal samples near the beginning remind me of nothing so much as the dializard fight from Sonic Adventure 2.
- 15:57SPEAKER_00: The mix post describes the track as drum and bass, and it does have elements of that, but this really does play with genres.
- 16:04SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately, Suicid and Two is in my never played Hall of Shame, so I have no comment about how well the source material was working, but I liked what I heard.
- 16:15SPEAKER_00: Up next is Aramborealis from Cadigorous Uprising.
- 20:30SPEAKER_00: This track is right in the sweet spot for me.
- 20:33SPEAKER_00: I'm a huge, huge fan of the prog rock band, Thank You Scientist, and this is right in that same prog rock with Jazzy Horns playground.
- 20:43SPEAKER_00: Fun fact, Aramborealis means Northern Gold in Latin.
- 20:48SPEAKER_00: I don't know if that means anything, but now you know it too.
- 20:52SPEAKER_00: Believe it or not, this is from Dwelling of Duels Alien Month.
- 20:56SPEAKER_00: I did not play enough of Cudicaris Uprising to get to the Alien Invasion arc, and now that I know there's an Alien Invasion arc, I have to go play that game again.
- 21:06SPEAKER_00: But for now, let's do some crediting.
- 21:08SPEAKER_00: Jay and Wake did Arrangement and Synths, and as usual, didn't actually credit themselves, so that's an inference.
- 21:16SPEAKER_00: Jabo played guitar.
- 21:18SPEAKER_00: Eric MG played trumpet, and Numa Joe did that super, super proggy sack solo.
- 21:24SPEAKER_00: Up next is a medley of tracks, mostly from the Wind Waker, called Up and Away.
- 29:33SPEAKER_00: Boy, I love the Wind Waker.
- 29:35SPEAKER_00: I love when Nintendo takes a series and just takes a big swing with it.
- 29:39SPEAKER_00: In retrospect, I guess the Wind Waker wasn't as big a swing as we'd see with Breath of the Wild, but at the time it seemed like a really big deal.
- 29:47SPEAKER_00: Pretty radical stuff.
- 29:49SPEAKER_00: And speaking of radical, I love this remix.
- 29:52SPEAKER_00: I love, love, love when Rebecca E.
- 29:54SPEAKER_00: Trip worked with real instruments.
- 29:56SPEAKER_00: She's such a great arranger, and while synth instruments have gotten so much better over the years, I don't know.
- 30:03SPEAKER_00: Nothing quite like the real thing.
- 30:06SPEAKER_00: So let's talk about who brought us all this goodness.
- 30:09SPEAKER_00: Rebecca E.
- 30:10SPEAKER_00: Trip did the arrangement and synth instruments.
- 30:13SPEAKER_00: Gamer of the Winds played alto flute, concert flute, and Riccolo.
- 30:17SPEAKER_00: Medlick played concert flute, oboe and English or Stephen Higby played ocarina, clarinet, and bass clarinet.
- 30:26SPEAKER_00: Up next, we're gonna get funky with a mystical ninja track from Timaeus 222, the Kabuki Warrior Kicks Back.
- 34:40SPEAKER_00: You know, it's funny, on first listen, I could have sworn that this was a Sonic dragon.
- 34:45SPEAKER_00: It just really has that sound to it.
- 34:47SPEAKER_00: Reminds me a lot of the remixes from the OCR albums Hedgehog Heaven, the one covering Sonic 2, and Temporal Duality, which was Sonic CD.
- 34:56SPEAKER_00: Both the US and Japan OSDs are.
- 34:59SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure why I have this association, because I looked and Tomaeus 222 does not have a single Sonic remix accredited on OCR that I could find.
- 35:07SPEAKER_00: Go figure.
- 35:08SPEAKER_00: I do feel the need to point out that this is the first time I have ever seen an academic paper cited in a mix post.
- 35:16SPEAKER_00: Tomaeus mentions he thought of a section of this track while he was working on some code for the paper.
- 35:22SPEAKER_00: Large-scale variational two-electron reduced density matrix-driven complete active space, self-consistent field methods.
- 35:31SPEAKER_00: Not my field, but I did skim the abstract and saw phrases like electron repulsion integral tensor.
- 35:39SPEAKER_00: I think maybe this tomatous guy is pretty sharp.
- 35:43SPEAKER_00: Up next, we have something completely different.
- 35:46SPEAKER_00: A solo piano piece from McVath.
- 35:48SPEAKER_00: The Lieflands.
- 35:50SPEAKER_00: Reflections version from Archival Traveler.
- 39:51SPEAKER_00: You might know him better as the composer of Shadow of the Colossus.
- 39:55SPEAKER_00: Now, this surprise me because when I hear McVaff, I don't think of beautiful and expressive solo piano.
- 40:02SPEAKER_00: I think generally of electronica with a bit of groove to it, like Devil's Lab from Final Fantasy VI.
- 40:09SPEAKER_00: But this is not unprecedented.
- 40:11SPEAKER_00: If you like this side of McVaff, you could go all the way back to the year 2000 and enjoy Cut Man Sonata.
- 40:19SPEAKER_00: McVaff mentions he wrote this piece to try to recapture the warmth, beauty, and longing for the Christmas celebrations of his youth.
- 40:28SPEAKER_00: Up next, we turn to Earthbound for Eternal Summers of the Spotless Mind.
- 43:23SPEAKER_00: On the other hand, this sounds very spicy, which uh does very much sound like Earthbound to me.
- 43:28SPEAKER_00: The instrumentation and overall vibe reminds me strongly of early to mid-2000s OCR.
- 43:34SPEAKER_00: If you told me this was a new analog track, I would believe you.
- 43:38SPEAKER_00: You can totally just sit back and relax, but not too much.
- 43:42SPEAKER_00: There's some interesting credit to it.
- 43:44SPEAKER_00: Emulator did the arrangement for this track.
- 43:47SPEAKER_00: Eric WK played bass.
- 43:49SPEAKER_00: Ridley Sniper played the drum.
- 43:51SPEAKER_00: I should mention that Timzilla did the mastering.
- 43:54SPEAKER_00: I should also mention that this was originally written for the Pixel Mixer's Earthbound album PK Rocket.
- 44:00SPEAKER_00: So give that a listen if this sounds like your jam.
- 44:03SPEAKER_00: Up next we have our second fellow piano track of the month, Ceremony of Terra from Final Fantasy IX by Blue Lighter.
- 47:53SPEAKER_00: Almost all their tracks released this decade have been Uamatsu, and interestingly, not all of those are Final Fantasy.
- 48:01SPEAKER_00: But I digress.
- 48:02SPEAKER_00: This is a jaunty little tune, but it has a delicious little bit of darkness to it.
- 48:07SPEAKER_00: It sort of reminds me of Horuyoshi Rokoto's elemental gimmick gear soundtrack.
- 48:12SPEAKER_00: If you never played it, it's sort of a very well-done Zelda clone on the Sega Dreamcast.
- 48:18SPEAKER_00: But if I listen to this track and I close my eyes, where I see this music being played is from a player piano in a rundown saloon.
- 48:26SPEAKER_00: Over in the corner, a hippo guy is playing poker with a rat guy and Vivi.
- 48:32SPEAKER_00: Vivi is losing.
- 48:34SPEAKER_00: Up next, we have our first Breath of the Wild track of the month, Hyrule and Helmuth by Chimpzilla and Trait.
- 52:23SPEAKER_00: Really solid transient electronica.
- 52:26SPEAKER_00: Now, in release order, this is the second Trips Electric collab on OCR.
- 52:32SPEAKER_00: You might remember their Helldivers 2 track from last month.
- 52:36SPEAKER_00: In real time, though, this is actually their first collab.
- 52:40SPEAKER_00: According to them, what happened is they both discovered they had a trance track in progress and just decided to collab on both.
- 52:48SPEAKER_00: Now I did have to look up with a helmetized.
- 52:51SPEAKER_00: And much to my surprise, it is not an obscure Hyrulean creature, but in fact a very real parasitic worm.
- 52:58SPEAKER_00: Which makes sense when you realize that this makes incorporate vulgarization.
- 53:02SPEAKER_00: You know, that flying sandworm thing from the Windwager.
- 53:07SPEAKER_00: Anyway, our next track is a mimical planet from Metroid by Gaspone.
- 57:16SPEAKER_00: Not friendly.
- 57:18SPEAKER_00: Gaspod, noun, that weird little talking dog thing from the Discworld book.
- 57:24SPEAKER_00: Moving pictures.
- 57:25SPEAKER_00: Inimical planets, remix.
- 57:27SPEAKER_00: An awesome, vaguely vaporwave electronic take on Hip Tanaka's classic Metroid theme.
- 57:33SPEAKER_00: Much like Hip Tanaka's original Metroid soundtrack, this does a fantastic job of balancing the oppressive and hostile music on the surface of Talon 4 and the weirdly wistful but uplifting title theme.
- 57:47SPEAKER_00: I love the choir samples in particular.
- 57:49SPEAKER_00: They really work for this.
- 57:51SPEAKER_00: Let's get away from Electronica for a little bit and go back to something a little more accusing with rolled down memory lane from October and Gamer of the Winds.
- 1:03:29SPEAKER_00: Sounds like it's straight out of Mother 3.
- 1:03:32SPEAKER_00: I really love the combo of acoustic sounding samples with an electronica backing.
- 1:03:36SPEAKER_00: Very video gamey.
- 1:03:38SPEAKER_00: And Gamer of the Wind steps in to play some live flute, which gives the piece a very Xenoblade Chronicles feeling.
- 1:03:45SPEAKER_00: I really got to get more familiar with the Okami soundtrack.
- 1:03:48SPEAKER_00: This is just great, and it kills me that I don't know the source material.
- 1:03:53SPEAKER_00: I mean, I played Okami, but only once and merely twenty years ago.
- 1:03:59SPEAKER_00: Clearly I'm missing out.
- 1:04:02SPEAKER_00: Okay, first metal track of the episode coming up.
- 1:04:05SPEAKER_00: Get ready to throw up those horns for Who Needs Allies when you have a Demon Sword from Bloodstained Curse of the Moon by The Bitter Roost.
- 1:09:43SPEAKER_00: So I was pretty lukewarm on the Symphony of the Night Alike, Bloodstained, Ritual of the Night.
- 1:09:49SPEAKER_00: It just didn't do it for me.
- 1:09:51SPEAKER_00: I did not feel compelled to finish it or even really get very far.
- 1:09:55SPEAKER_00: On the other hand, though, I loved Curse of the Moon.
- 1:09:59SPEAKER_00: For the unfamiliar, Curse of the Moon is basically Castlevania 3, but more awesome.
- 1:10:05SPEAKER_00: I cannot recommend it enough.
- 1:10:07SPEAKER_00: Inti Creates just gets it.
- 1:10:10SPEAKER_00: Who'd think the same devs that made Mega Man 9 and 10 would then just go on to beat Castlevania at its own game?
- 1:10:16SPEAKER_00: Mix itself is just Chefkiss.
- 1:10:20SPEAKER_00: It's perfect.
- 1:10:21SPEAKER_00: I have no notes.
- 1:10:23SPEAKER_00: This is exactly what I want from Bloodstained Metal.
- 1:10:28SPEAKER_00: Bravo to TBR.
- 1:10:29SPEAKER_00: I should also mention, this is originally from the Pixel Mixers album Great Tale of the Little Ones, Volume 3.
- 1:10:37SPEAKER_00: Now who's ready for one of the rare, live recorded OCR tracks?
- 1:10:42SPEAKER_00: We have a few of them, but they are a minuscule fraction of the catalog.
- 1:10:46SPEAKER_00: This one was recorded live at VGM Con 2025.
- 1:10:51SPEAKER_00: From Metal Gear Solid 3, The Snake Eater's Palace, Outer Heaven.
- 1:13:30SPEAKER_00: I love it.
- 1:13:31SPEAKER_00: This is up there with VGM funk bands like Super Soul Brothers.
- 1:13:35SPEAKER_00: I'm really hoping to make it to the next VGM con, and more than that, I really want to see these guys at it.
- 1:13:41SPEAKER_00: According to Audio Mocha in the mix post, they wanted to make a black exploitation version of the theme from Metal Gear Solid 3.
- 1:13:48SPEAKER_00: I think they succeeded.
- 1:13:50SPEAKER_00: Another fun fact from the mix post, this is the very first OCR track, where all of the judges who voted on the track also saw the track recorded live.
- 1:13:59SPEAKER_00: Alright, let's do some crediting, or at least try to.
- 1:14:03SPEAKER_00: I know that this was Audio Mocha, Anime Vivi, and Endless Repeat, but I don't know who played what.
- 1:14:10SPEAKER_00: I guess I really will have to go to the next VGM con just so I can look at them and tell who's doing what.
- 1:14:17SPEAKER_00: Up next, we've got another Moorgan remix.
- 1:14:21SPEAKER_00: They've been busy this year.
- 1:14:23SPEAKER_00: This is like Stars in the Ceiling from Super Mario World to Yoshi's Island.
- 1:21:12SPEAKER_00: And I'm just gonna say that Yoshi's Island is my favorite Koji Kondo soundtrack.
- 1:21:17SPEAKER_00: Like, by a mile! Upbeat grooves, check, rock organ, check, funky underground theme, check.
- 1:21:26SPEAKER_00: And here's Mo Organ to give us a new take on said funky underground theme.
- 1:21:31SPEAKER_00: In my mind's eye, I see one of those little cave shy guys with the lantern DJing for the munchers.
- 1:21:38SPEAKER_00: Musically, I hear a bunch of different things in this.
- 1:21:42SPEAKER_00: It's dancey electronica with just a bit of spiciness to it.
- 1:21:46SPEAKER_00: Reminds me of nothing stylistically so much as the Katamari Damashi soundtrack.
- 1:21:51SPEAKER_00: I should also mention that this is the first remix posted of this track since 2002 with McVaf's at Crystalline Gaverns.
- 1:22:00SPEAKER_00: Up next, we have our last track of the month.
- 1:22:03SPEAKER_00: Rebecca E.
- 1:22:04SPEAKER_00: Trip and Breath of the Wild both come back around for Nest of Dreams.
- 1:29:45SPEAKER_00: This one is definitely moodier and darker.
- 1:29:49SPEAKER_00: Less sky, more dungeon.
- 1:29:51SPEAKER_00: But it doesn't stay that way.
- 1:29:53SPEAKER_00: The ceiling opens up and we see the stars.
- 1:29:56SPEAKER_00: Stylistically and instrumentally, this arrangement reminds me of several different composers.
- 1:30:01SPEAKER_00: I hear Motoi Sakuraba in the woodwind heavy sections.
- 1:30:05SPEAKER_00: I hear Hitoshi Sakamoto in the more lush, fully orchestrated sections.
- 1:30:10SPEAKER_00: I hear a little Joy Hisaishi in Rivali's theme and Rito Village.
- 1:30:15SPEAKER_00: But that makes sense, just in terms of how much Studio Ghibli inspired Breath of the Wild as a whole.
- 1:30:21SPEAKER_00: I even hear a little Yutaka Minobe and Tatsuyuki Maeda in there, just for me.
- 1:30:27SPEAKER_00: Chimpzilla describes the mix as beautiful and delicate.
- 1:30:31SPEAKER_00: I gotta agree.
- 1:30:33SPEAKER_00: Rebecca E.
- 1:30:34SPEAKER_00: Tripp did the arrangement.
- 1:30:35SPEAKER_00: Gamer of the Winds played Piccolo and more than one kind of flute.
- 1:30:39SPEAKER_00: Also, I was kind of under the impression that a piccolo was a kind of flute.
- 1:30:44SPEAKER_00: Hop on Discord and correct me.
- 1:30:46SPEAKER_00: Medlix played flute, oboe, and English horn.
- 1:30:50SPEAKER_00: Stephen Higby played clarinet and Ocarina.
- 1:30:53SPEAKER_00: Now it's time for a segment.
- 1:31:36SPEAKER_00: But in this segment we're going to get a little current because September is the 40th anniversary of the release of Super Mario Bros.
- 1:31:43SPEAKER_00: for the Nintendo Famicom in Japan.
- 1:31:46SPEAKER_00: A game that I can say without exaggeration at all changed the course of history.
- 1:31:51SPEAKER_00: It brought console gaming back to North America after the crash of 83 made it look like the whole thing might be a fad, and of course, completely changed the life of yours truly, who would probably not be sitting here talking into a microphone about video game music if not for that fateful day my parents put an NES controller into my hands.
- 1:32:13SPEAKER_00: Super Mario Bros.
- 1:32:14SPEAKER_00: was my second video game.
- 1:32:17SPEAKER_00: My dad had to spend a good bit of time recovering from a major surgery when I was very young, and my mom bought him an NES just to have something to do.
- 1:32:26SPEAKER_00: The first game I remember playing on the NES was the NES version of Pac-Man, which I think they must have rented because it's not in my collection today.
- 1:32:35SPEAKER_00: But the second game, the one that hooked me, was Super Mario Bros.
- 1:32:40SPEAKER_00: From that point onward, video games remained one of the most important things in my life.
- 1:32:46SPEAKER_00: And now I sit here with you, celebrating the 40th anniversary of that most important game.
- 1:32:53SPEAKER_00: And my way of celebrating, as I'm sure you're aware by now, is making you listen to remixes.
- 1:32:59SPEAKER_00: I've got a selection of five more OC remix tracks from Mario Games.
- 1:33:03SPEAKER_00: Now, I won't say that these are the best Mario tracks, or even my favorites, but these are five that for whatever reason made a big impression on me.
- 1:33:13SPEAKER_00: That first one was Grand Vulsimario by Gladiator from Super Mario World.
- 1:33:20SPEAKER_00: I hope you enjoy the rest, and I'll catch you after the video.
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- 1:54:12SPEAKER_00: After that, that was Peach's House Party by Sir Jordanius from Super Mario 64.
- 1:54:20SPEAKER_00: Now, Sir Jay is someone who has changed their username a lot, so I'm just going to use whichever particular version was on my MP3.
- 1:54:31SPEAKER_00: Moving on, we have Tuti I Fruity, the Ballad of Peonti Joe, by MC Final Sigma and UV Sergey, which UV Ser Jay is, as far as I can tell, the same person as Sir Jordanius.
- 1:54:47SPEAKER_00: Finally, we have Fill Me Up with Snacky Happiness by Protodome from Super Mario Galaxy.
- 1:55:44SPEAKER_00: And that's it for August 2025.
- 1:55:47SPEAKER_00: Our interstitial music this month was Electric Monstro Carnival from Super Mario RPG by DDR Kirby ISQ.
- 1:55:55SPEAKER_00: A lovely track.
- 1:55:56SPEAKER_00: Go listen to the whole thing.
- 1:55:58SPEAKER_00: Our outro music is See You Next Time, Water, from Final Fantasy V by Dark Sword.
- 1:56:04SPEAKER_00: Whoa there! I see you getting that fry from Futurama Shut Up and Take My Money GIF ready.
- 1:56:09SPEAKER_00: I've got you covered.
- 1:56:11SPEAKER_00: The best place to spend your money would be the Overclocked Remix Patreon, which you can find at OCRemix.org, the main page.
- 1:56:20SPEAKER_00: These donations help keep the light on at yours and my favorite video game arrangement site.
- 1:56:26SPEAKER_00: The second best place to spend your money is at this podcast's homepage, Overclocked Remix Podcast.buzzsprout.com.
- 1:56:35SPEAKER_00: The podcast promise is that any money I make after podcast costs goes straight to OC Remix itself.
- 1:56:41SPEAKER_00: Now, as always, I'm going to use a six-sided die in the OCR front page to play us out with a random song.
- 1:56:48SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
- 1:56:51SPEAKER_00: That's a two, so that's by Retro Brothers from Terra Crusader.
- 1:56:59SPEAKER_00: Have a great month, and I'll see you next time.