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Bringing Big Screen Energy To Your Music Vido With CHRIS SUN From SUN ENTERTAINMENT · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: My name is Chris Sun, and I'm a feature film producer,
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  Speaker 1: writer and director. And yeah, obviously you know I'm known
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  Speaker 1: for making them the movies, the horror movies, the blood
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  Speaker 1: and Guts. But we've also moved in and set up
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  Speaker 1: your Son Entertainment, which will do music videos and social
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  Speaker 1: media videos but mainly revolve around the music videos. Is
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  Speaker 1: something that I'm excited to do.
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  Speaker 2: Lord Chris, thanks for joining us today.
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  Speaker 1: A pleasure to be here or there or wherever the
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  Speaker 1: fuck we are on the internet.
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  Speaker 3: Pleasure to be here brother.
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  Speaker 2: As you mentioned, bro, you've started your new company's Son Entertainment,
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  Speaker 2: which is essentially a new music video production company. So
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  Speaker 2: explain to us, Explain to us to your your mission goal.
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  Speaker 2: I guess what's.
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  Speaker 3: Your name for sure.
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  Speaker 1: So a few years ago, before COVID hit, we set
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  Speaker 1: up Son Entertainment.
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  Speaker 3: I had this like vision back then that you know.
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  Speaker 1: Like movies are great, man, I make them move and
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that. It's good fun. But it's a it's
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  Speaker 1: a hard slog and it's hard to earn a consistent income,
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  Speaker 1: especially being a filmmaker in Australia.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's not there, you know, it's a hard thing.
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  Speaker 3: To get a movie made.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, anyone can go ahead and make a you know,
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  Speaker 1: a low no budget movie. But you know, if you
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  Speaker 1: got some friends and a phone, you can make a
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  Speaker 1: movie these days. But when you're trying to make them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to sell like for Universal Pictures and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that, it's a bit of a slog.
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  Speaker 3: So we set up.
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  Speaker 1: Some entertainment and we were going to lock out social
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  Speaker 1: media videos and then you move into doing music videos.
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  Speaker 1: And then I got offered to do The Possessed during
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  Speaker 1: COVID and I thought, well, you know, movies is something
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  Speaker 1: that I know, I'll go and make the movie. So
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  Speaker 1: of course you went and you know, shot The Possessed,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, it was fantastic, But you know, for ages,
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  Speaker 1: I was sort of like, you know, I really.
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  Speaker 3: Want to shoot music videos.
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  Speaker 1: Even though I knew people like bands and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really know how to sort.
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  Speaker 3: To get into it.
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  Speaker 1: And you get what gear I needed because I'm used
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  Speaker 1: to feature film seventy eighty crew and we got to
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  Speaker 1: make a movie. So it wasn't until late late last
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  Speaker 1: year man that my old members seen like we've been
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  Speaker 1: through a lot, you know with the you know, in
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  Speaker 1: the film industry, and I had a few health issues myself,
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  Speaker 1: and then in September, my dad got told he had
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  Speaker 1: cancer and they said he had six to eight months
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  Speaker 1: to live. And I remember saying, you know, talking to
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  Speaker 1: him about it, and he's like, you know, just you
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  Speaker 1: just got to do it, lad, you know, if you
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  Speaker 1: want to make music videos and go and make music videos,
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  Speaker 1: like what's stopping you?
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  Speaker 3: You can do it. And then of.
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  Speaker 1: Course in Halloween, you know, the day that everyone thinks
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  Speaker 1: I celebrating the horror guy, you know, my old man
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  Speaker 1: passed away. Like it was so quick, it just fucking
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  Speaker 1: the doctor said six months and dirt, he was gone
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  Speaker 1: in weeks, Like from the moment he found out to
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  Speaker 1: the moment he got it.
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  Speaker 3: Was gone in fucking weeks. And you know, so I
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  Speaker 3: went through that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I put the movie on hold because I'm
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  Speaker 1: developing the new movie Dark Moon also, so we're about
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  Speaker 1: to go into proved production for that finally, so I
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  Speaker 1: put everything on hold, man, because obviously I went through
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  Speaker 1: a lot with the old Man. But then in January,
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  Speaker 1: I was like fuck it, you know, like I got
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  Speaker 1: to do it, Like this is something I really want
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  Speaker 1: to do. So I announced I was going to do
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  Speaker 1: music videos, and before you know, I was booked out, Like
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  Speaker 1: people were reaching out to me going, hey can you
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  Speaker 1: shoot out, come shoot a music video for us? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: things just sort of started happening, and people wanted me
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  Speaker 1: to shoot social media videos, which I haven't done yet.
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  Speaker 1: We sort of put that on hold, and of course
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  Speaker 1: the more more people started bringing me about movies. If
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  Speaker 1: I can at me right everyone everyone script, Chris, You've
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  Speaker 1: got a script.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone's got a movie they want to get made, right, mate.
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  Speaker 1: But every phone call I have and starts O ba hey,
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  Speaker 1: I've got this movie idea. But look, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: new number of My manager warned me, said, when you
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  Speaker 1: promote you're going to music videos, be warned, people will
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  Speaker 1: ring you for movies. Nah they won't, They'll ring you
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  Speaker 1: for music videos. No, No, he was right, They ring
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  Speaker 1: me for movies. But I did get some music videos
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  Speaker 1: and we got a start on it, you know, which
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  Speaker 1: was great. And I got to shoot some for you know,
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  Speaker 1: for Baden, you know, Greg and Caries. I've got to
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  Speaker 1: get out there and do some videos. So now, dude,
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  Speaker 1: it's something that I'm really passionate about. Like obviously we're
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  Speaker 1: focusing on the movies right now as well. But my
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  Speaker 1: priority has become like doing these music videos. It's something
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  Speaker 1: that I really want to do. You know, one thing
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  Speaker 1: I love is telling a story. And songs are the same.
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  Speaker 1: They just a story. So with my vision and the
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  Speaker 1: band's vision and the writer's vision whatever, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: can create some fucking cool shit, man. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: I want to do. And people think that I want
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  Speaker 1: to do only horror. I don't just want to do horror.
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  Speaker 1: I'll do any genre like, they can be country music, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Come back to.
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  Speaker 1: Austraining and get fucking sick COVID fucker is. But like,
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  Speaker 1: we want to do any genre. I want to really
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  Speaker 1: get good at this and and I want to cater
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  Speaker 1: for the indie guys through the big budgets to like,
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  Speaker 1: even though these guys have got a small budget. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I was talking to actually someone you put me onto
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  Speaker 1: the other day, Tim.
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  Speaker 3: You know, a band manager there and a.
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  Speaker 1: Label, and you know, you've got these guys that want
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  Speaker 1: to have these these music videos. We don't know how
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  Speaker 1: to get them done or don't like, you know, can
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  Speaker 1: they afford to do it right? Like this is where
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  Speaker 1: I want to come in with you. I've got fifteen
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  Speaker 1: years experience in making feature films. I've done Universal Picture, screen, Factory, shutter,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I've done it all, man Like, I've won
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  Speaker 1: so many awards making movies that I've got so much
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  Speaker 1: experience there. I can take these indie guys and say, well, hey,
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  Speaker 1: hang on a minute. You know, the one thing I
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  Speaker 1: teach people when they're writing a script is write everything right.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter that I think it's got you one
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  Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, but when it when we get down
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  Speaker 1: or we can start cutting things out and working things
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  Speaker 1: around and still give you that production value. And we
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  Speaker 1: want to say to the indie guys out there that
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  Speaker 1: are watching this, and they can be anywhere in the world. Bro,
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  Speaker 1: We'll go fucking anywhay depending on your budget, guys, but
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  Speaker 1: we can go anywhere to shoot these things and make
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  Speaker 1: it happen.
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  Speaker 3: And we can we can take your.
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  Speaker 1: Three four five thousand dollars, buddy, whatever, like your big shoot.
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  Speaker 1: You want to go and shoot some stuff in the
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  Speaker 1: woods or what. I don't know what the fuck it is, right,
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  Speaker 1: but we can take your budget and make it look
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  Speaker 1: like you had twenty grand. Right, It's all about production value.
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  Speaker 1: It's about getting getting the shots and the lighting. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, I've put together a team. We've got Emmy
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  Speaker 1: Award winning editor. These are for the bigger budget projects,
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  Speaker 1: like the smaller budgets. I added them personally, guys, so
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  Speaker 1: I direct it for you, I edit it for you.
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  Speaker 1: My son's the DP. But we've got everything from lighting
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  Speaker 1: crew to you know, makeup departments everything. So the bigger
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  Speaker 1: the budget, we can do anything. It doesn't matter. We
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  Speaker 1: want practical effects. You want a fucking monster, guys, we
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  Speaker 1: can do Fuck. You want severed heads, We got fucking
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  Speaker 1: severed heads. They're fucking everywhere, right, so we can do it.
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  Speaker 1: We just want to get the bands scaling. Fuck it,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's make it happen. And something I mentioned to
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  Speaker 1: some of the labels is even if it's only like
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  Speaker 1: a stage shoot, dude, like someone just wants to be
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  Speaker 1: on stage, not like a live one, Like they want
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  Speaker 1: to be on stage and you know, sort of show
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  Speaker 1: what they're like, what they're like on stage. We did
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  Speaker 1: that for Kill Pillar. I don't know if you've got
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  Speaker 1: that one, maybe we might be able to share it
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  Speaker 1: in this story, which is a stage video, and we
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  Speaker 1: can do that for like fifteen hundred bucks, goes about
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  Speaker 1: six hours to film, right, But that's that's.
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  Speaker 3: Just did you look at the video?
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  Speaker 1: You guys look at the video or you know, the
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  Speaker 1: readers out there, have a look the bands. We can
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  Speaker 1: do that for you. And the cool thing is up
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  Speaker 1: to a thousand bucks too, that I can do. I
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  Speaker 1: can do that fucking after the payro bands, we can
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  Speaker 1: have to play up to a thousand bucks of your
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  Speaker 1: music video.
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  Speaker 3: I just stick it on your fucking credit card whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I guess a bit mate, like and in the modern
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  Speaker 2: age of technology, like it's pretty simple for bands to
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  Speaker 2: record their own music videos. I just do lyric videos.
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  Speaker 2: So the art of making professional music videos has decreased
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  Speaker 2: in many aspects. So I guess bands out there that
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  Speaker 2: can can do it themselves and think it's easier, Like
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  Speaker 2: why should they go with a bigger company like yours.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, You're so right.
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  Speaker 1: I've got the new iPhone right, and it's fucking amazing,
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  Speaker 1: Like I can shoot some really cool stuff on my iPhone,
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  Speaker 1: and bands out there were limited budget that want to
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  Speaker 1: do that, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, I encourage them to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Do your music videos, whether you don't need to pay
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  Speaker 1: you know, big money here, I'm talking myself out of work,
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  Speaker 1: but in fact I'm not right because those guys that
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  Speaker 1: are going to get shot in the fund are going
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  Speaker 1: to do it anyway, all right. They've got zero budget.
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  Speaker 1: They want to go out there. They want to make
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  Speaker 1: a cool video, and some of them are fucking insane.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: And there's some of those guys are watch them right now,
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  Speaker 1: and I'd love to see your videos because some of
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  Speaker 1: them are fucking insane.
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  Speaker 3: But then you get the guys.
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  Speaker 1: They want the lighting truck, they want, you know, the makeup,
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  Speaker 1: they want the professional makeup teams, they want the different
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  Speaker 1: levels every like. Some guys will write a song and
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  Speaker 1: that's you can get the band, the lead singer in
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  Speaker 1: a fucking toilet and look fucking insane, grungy, cool, fucking
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  Speaker 1: editor color greater making it looks great and you can
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  Speaker 1: do it on your phone, right. But then you get
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  Speaker 1: those guys and say, no, no, no, no, no no, we
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  Speaker 1: want to have we want to be in the toilet.
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  Speaker 3: We want to have that.
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  Speaker 1: We want to have a fucking monster come inside. That
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  Speaker 1: monster is going to cost money, right, or we want
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  Speaker 1: to have you know, we need some digital effect, we
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  Speaker 1: need this we need this. All of a sudden, the
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  Speaker 1: budgets start going up. The bands know, right, so and
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  Speaker 1: if they're serious bands, like if they're sitting there again,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead, shit on the fighting your fuck right. You
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  Speaker 1: get a mate with a little camera film, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: But a serious band that's looking at someone like myself
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  Speaker 1: for another company to do a music video.
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  Speaker 3: These are guys now that know.
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  Speaker 1: The band members are all sat down and said, right,
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  Speaker 1: if we put in two grand each or whatever it
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  Speaker 1: is that a thousand dollars, we can get something made
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  Speaker 1: and they don't need to worry. There's nothing worse than
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  Speaker 1: going on set and having to worry about everything. If
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  Speaker 1: they turn around and they can turn out and be
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  Speaker 1: the band, right, they can be the fucking artist they
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  Speaker 1: want to be. They can fucking let loose and be
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  Speaker 1: crazy and have a fucking quality director, quality camera team,
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  Speaker 1: everybody filming it and getting the shots. They're going to
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  Speaker 1: get a better performance later on. Yeah, all right again,
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  Speaker 1: I've already said it and I'll say it again. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: anybody with a fucking camera phone now can make a video.
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  Speaker 1: Fuck you can do the cap cut on TikTok. Please
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  Speaker 1: don't leave your cap cut logo on your fucking music video.
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  Speaker 1: But anybody can do it. But there comes a time
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  Speaker 1: when a band starts to grow, all right, and that's
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  Speaker 1: when they go, you know what, hey, we can afford
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  Speaker 1: three or four grand to do this, or they start
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  Speaker 1: to get bigger and bigger. I want to build sets.
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  Speaker 1: Like look at kill Pill. They built two big sets
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  Speaker 1: for theirs. So it depends on how much money they
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  Speaker 1: want to throw it to what they can get. It's
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  Speaker 1: no different to anything else.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you raise a really good point there, Broy. Like
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  Speaker 2: for a band, just say a band coming out with
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  Speaker 2: their debut, their first ever song, or they're releasing the
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  Speaker 2: first song off a new album or a new EP.
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  Speaker 2: Like these days, first impressions mattered more than ever, so
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  Speaker 2: during a stuff is fine. But if you want to
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  Speaker 2: really grab someone's attention and announce it and say this
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  Speaker 2: is what we've got and this is how good it is.
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  Speaker 2: If the music's great and the rest of it isn't,
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  Speaker 2: it sort of pass the significance of it, so you
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  Speaker 2: may as well.
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  Speaker 1: When I started doing like looking at these music videos
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  Speaker 1: I looked for I researched indie bands and whatever. And
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  Speaker 1: now the guys again watching this listen to this. When
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  Speaker 1: you kind of movie trailer, you've got one chance to
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  Speaker 1: make people go, well, I want.
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  Speaker 3: To watch that movie.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: The trailer can be a thirty second whatever, fifteen second tiases,
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  Speaker 1: whatever they are. I watched so many music videos, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest. Some of these bands had
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  Speaker 1: such a good song, but the video was shit.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: It just turned it off. It looked b grade. It
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  Speaker 1: looked like they didn't put any effort into it. Or
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  Speaker 1: they tried, but they just didn't put any effort into it.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're going to do that, you know, go
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  Speaker 1: Those yard didn't have the guys that want to do
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  Speaker 1: to themselves. Again, I encourage you guys out there. You
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  Speaker 1: don't need to pay big bucks to do this, but
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  Speaker 1: just you can. But if you are going to do
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  Speaker 1: it yourself, learn how to edit, learn how to color grade,
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  Speaker 1: learn how to keep things fucking in or out of
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  Speaker 1: focus where you want it to be. If it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be grungy, be careful of digital effects.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like this.
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  Speaker 1: If you want, I say to people, if you want
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  Speaker 1: to really grunt, you go get an old fucking camera.
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  Speaker 3: I'm filling an old camera. You know, digital effects can fuck.
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  Speaker 1: Things up these days rather than make it look, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like it's like a VHS. Fact, if you want to
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  Speaker 1: make it look like a VHS recorded digitally, stick it
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  Speaker 1: in the fucking recorder and record it onto a VHS
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  Speaker 1: and then bounce it back out again. Now it looks
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  Speaker 1: like a VHS. Like there's people these days, they are,
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  Speaker 1: but no, I can for forty nine to ninety five,
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  Speaker 1: we can get a VHS effect. Dude, it looks like shit, right.
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  Speaker 1: So what I'm saying to people is that you still
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  Speaker 1: can do it for zero budget. But sometimes it's better
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  Speaker 1: just to say, Chris, hey, we want to shoot this
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  Speaker 1: in the video ro we've got a few grammar. You
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  Speaker 1: don't have a lot of money, dude's call me. You
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  Speaker 1: don't have to have a lot of money.
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  Speaker 3: Call me.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about it all right, and then we can
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  Speaker 1: make it happen. I would rather give And like you said,
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  Speaker 1: it's the first impression you go put a song out
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  Speaker 1: there that it's a fucking crack of song. But then
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  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, there's B grade fucking looking no no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: no no no, And I'm the master b grade. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a big grade horror filmmaker, but it's still got to
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  Speaker 1: look like it costs you a fuck a couple of
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  Speaker 1: million bucks to make it look good.
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  Speaker 3: So that's where we come in from, and we can
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  Speaker 3: help them out.
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  Speaker 1: Again, encourage anybody that wants to do it on their own,
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  Speaker 1: but I also encourage them to give me a call
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  Speaker 1: and let's talk about it, because if we can do
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  Speaker 1: it for them and help them out. Obviously, every music
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  Speaker 1: video comes with a different cost. You know they're going
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  Speaker 1: to want certain things, and you know they want to
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  Speaker 1: you know, put cgo that costs more money. You want
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  Speaker 1: to have animated graphics, that costs money. Everything costs money.
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  Speaker 1: So if you've got you know, you just want to
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  Speaker 1: show something simple, Sure we can do something simple, or
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  Speaker 1: you can do it yourself, but if you want to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, think, well, fuck, we've got this really cool
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  Speaker 1: idea for a Star Trek theme fucking music video. Or guys,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to have to sell your PlayStation to make
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  Speaker 1: it happen. All right, Sometimes you've got to if you
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  Speaker 1: really want to fucking make your band go bang through
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  Speaker 1: the roof. When I did Bore and Bore fell Over,
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  Speaker 1: I had a week left to shoot. Everybody's like that
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  Speaker 1: movie's never going to get made. I worked so fucking
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  Speaker 1: hard bro that that movie ended up on taxi cabs
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  Speaker 1: in New York.
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  Speaker 3: I had zero own money. I invested everything, and I
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  Speaker 3: lost my home.
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  Speaker 1: I believed in it that much. I did everything in
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  Speaker 1: my power to get that movie finished anounce it. Whether
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: people are raising the backboard, it doesn't fucking matter, right.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: It's the thing is that I pulled it off when
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: to Universal Pieces and went to Shutter. It went fucking
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: huge around the world because I just gave it everything
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: I got. And if you're not willing to tell your
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: own shit to make your thing happen, they didn't believe
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: in it. If you got a seven hundred dollars short
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: but you've got fucking nine hundred dollars worth of games,
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: fuck make it happen.
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: Boys. That's that's how I look at it, right.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: So I sold everything to finish that movie, and I'm
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: glad I did because it went to festivals and did everything.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: We won't talk about the sales team ripping me off,
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: but the movie went world why, which was so worth it.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: In the end, I guess it's the old saying, Mabe,
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get one chance for the first impression.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: You know what you do?
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: You do, brother, you do, and you know what, Like,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about Assi's but I will talk
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: about Aussies for a second.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: And I'm learning about the music industry. Guys.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not an expert in your industry. I love making movies.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: I love shooting film. That's what I'm good at. But
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: the one thing I'm learning about the Australian music industry is,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: like the Australian film industry, we are so fuck talented, bro.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: There is so much talent in this country that's just
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: loosing to get out there and fucking explode. So you've
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: got these bands, whether they're young teenage bands, which some
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: of these guys are fucking insane through to you know,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: grown ups, you know, adult bands, if they haven't done
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: a music video before, I've done them before. I never
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: really got the you know, it's time to now bring
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: up some pros and say, guys, we don't have a
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: big budget, but we want to make it happen, and
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: then let's look at it. Let's make it happen like
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: that's what I want to do. And if we can
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: help in any way, you know, I help for every
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Tuesday night. Now, I work with kids and you know
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: the future filmmakers you know around here on the coast,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: So you know, it's the same with these music videos. Man,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: So guys ring me up. Fucking Chris has got my number.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: The number will be somewhere. Let's just talk about it
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: and see what we can do. And again, it doesn't
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: matter whether you're a new band, you're a teenage band.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Fucking some of those songs are insane that these guys
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: are doing right through men to a seasoned band that's
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: done fifty fucking music videos, I still reckon we can
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: do a cracker.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Yes fantasy. Reading through your press release, mate, there is
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: one quote that really stood out to me that I
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: want to get you to elaborate on a bit more.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Like you said that you want to bring big screen
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: energy to the world of music, Like, firstly, what do
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: you mean by that? And secondly, how are you going
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: to make that happen?
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, for me, that would be more on my
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: horror stuff. So when these guys want to do, like,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: you know, a dark, scary, uh you know, kind of
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: fucking film clip you want again, you go from somebody
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: shooting an indie one on their phone or this little
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: DSLR you know, trying to film it, you know, do whatever, you.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Know, we want to bring that whole crew.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: So if they've got a budget, we're going to bring
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: in the whole team, from Emmy Award winning editors to
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: CGI experts to everything together they want. But you're talking
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: a bigger budget there, right, Well you're not talking two grand,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: three grand, right, Like we all want a million dollar
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: a yard for one hundred thousand bucks, right, so we
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: can paint the canfucker and make a look. But I
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: still got a fucking Suzuki one ten engine in it, right,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, yes, we can
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: bring that. If we walk onto a setain someone says Chris, like,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I want to fucking I want to wear wolf.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: That's big.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: That's that's like fucking thriller ship, right, Like that's bits
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: fucking John Landers stuff. Like Then I say, okay, we
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: can get your fucking wealth, but it's the way it's
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: going to cost you this. If you could do that,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: let's bring that big screen to your fucking music video.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Let's let's make this fucking big time. We want a
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: fucking vampire or whatever you want. Severed heads I don't
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: fucking know, but we can also do it. Like I
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: can't remember, there was a an Indonesian pop band. It
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: was females singing, uh, female singers. I watched that video, bro,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: and it was so fucking colorful, all these balls in
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the pool and beautiful women and it was fucking stunning.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: The way they shot that video was big screen that
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: was that was like feature film shit. There was shot
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: on cinematic lenses, which is what we shoot onmadic lenses
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: of films. It was beautiful, Bro, it was really stunning.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't always have to be horror. It just
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: comes down the lighting. I mean, you gotta have lights,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: you gotta have everything right and in the movie, Like
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: in the music industry, man, I'm sure, and god, there's
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: probably I think the bands right now they're gonna slap me,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: but I'm.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Guessing the microphone is really fucking important. Right. You've gotta
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: have a good mic.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, You've got to have good equipment to sound good. Right,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: It's no different to fucking filming.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, again, phones these days are fucking superb, but we
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: got fucking, you know, cinematic lenses that we've ship movies on.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: You know that it's all about the glass.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: You can even they put lenses on phones now, Bro,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: you can get these like cinematic lenses for fun. So
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: it does come down to good equipment and stuff to
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: bring that you know, that cinema vibe to your video.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's actually one main thing I just took out
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: of what you said then too, Bro, which I think
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: it's important to bring up, Like you've been in the
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: industry for a while, so like this is your passion,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: this is your life, Like you're not my head. I
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: say this. Ben's gonna come to you with the were
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: wolf example, you just use. They'll say the one were wolf.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: You're going to say, right, how much do you have
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: to spend? Like you're not the sort of person going
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: to keep adding and adding and adding, And then the
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: end of the video is shoot, like those spend of
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: five hundred bucks and they get a bill for the
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: five thousand.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Along the way.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Bro, So how it works is quite simple. It's well,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you look at bard a delicate murder kill pill, correct,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: good cris They just had a figure and okay, did
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I buy it off more than I could chew? And
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and absolutely, but I didn't charge them anymore. Right, It's like,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: this is the deal. So if the band comes to me,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: did they get a three thousand dollars budget, the chances
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: are getting a Look, we probably have to go to
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: silly Solly's and build a were wolf because you've got
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: to pay for everything else. Guy's camera life, you gotta
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: pay everything else.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's like, have you.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Ever seen those pid those those videos on the internet, bro,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: where there's one half is at fifty dollars Spider Man
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the other half of five thousand dollars Spider.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Man and they're drawing it. It's the same thing. It's
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: the same thing.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Right, So guys don't come and go, hey, Chris that
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: we want fucking the American wealth in London, but we
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: got three grand. No, no, no, that's going to cost you
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of money just to build the werewolf. Okay,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I work in special effects, like these things cost a
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: lot of money. But we can build you a werewolf.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Looks fucking Nali for cheapest shit too. All right, So
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: we got to sit down and look at the budget.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: We've always got to be respectful of the camera guy,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: the lighting guy, the equipment, all that sort of stuff.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: So guys don't think three thousand dollars is going to
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: get your werewolf, and then you're not paying for anything else.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: We've got a barter for everything, a budget for everything,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and so we can't at my time, I'm going to
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: come and direct this fucking thing.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: So, but in saying that, bro, you got the guys
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: that want the three thousand dollars video, like, okay, when
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: idea dam Greg and carieses' I'll tell the world the truth.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I only charge them four thousand bucks to do that video.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I built them a cemetery, we did all the other sets,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: like everything we did for them.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: It was very fucking cheap. Would I do that again? No? Right?
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: But I never charged them more. Yeah, never charged them more.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: The deal was the deal, and because it was my
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: first one, I was so excited, like, yeah, let's fucking
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: do it now. Here's the problem, though, guys, is if
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: you say to me it's going to take one day,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and I say to you you need too and you
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: say I can't. I can't do them one and then
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: it takes too Yes, you're going to pay more if
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I told you it needs two days, but you you.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Try to force it into one day.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: You try to make crew work twenty hours and everybody
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: else were twenty hours for nothing.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Then it's going to cost you more money.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: So trust out guidance when we say, hey, listen, that's
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: going to take a couple of days to shoot right.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: It's better to spread it out than try and cram
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: everything in. We're not fucking shooting the we other world
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: fucking film clip. We can we can we you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: we can spend a couple of days and get it
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: right and still coming out under budget or around budget.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very cool. Now, how the beds reach out
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: to you to find out more and what sorts of
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: things do they need to have in place before they
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: come to you about making a music video?
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: They need to have their equipment. Look, they can reach out.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: We've got the website, you know, in the actually were
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: advertising on your website all the time. I think we
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: our banners on the front page there, guys. You can
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: see how banner there for Son Entertainment in the article
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: on the magazine cover or Facebook.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: They can just search search up critis sun and follow me.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I was going to set up a Son Entertainment like Insta,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: but I thought, you know what, I'll just keep it
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: under my film stuff and people can just do you know,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: follow me there and maybe down the track.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: So Chris Son, but.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Otherwise Brad Bromfield, he's been helping with all my movies
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and stuff. That Brad's coming on to be like he's
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: got in a band himself and he's coming on to
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: be like the booking guy, my booking guy, yeah, brooking guy,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: security everything else. He's done so many different roles in
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: my movies. It's funny, but little coming out as long
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: to get Brady because he's got the dreadlocks and all
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: the hor attacks. We'd like to bring him in. But
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Brad's a fucking decent human being, guys, and you can
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: talk to Brad, you know, and he can sort of
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: go through it with it because because he's the views
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: of himself in the band himself, he gets a rob
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: standard does on my graphic design work.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: You know. He's also in the music industry.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: So I've got enough people that guide me as well,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: because sometimes guys, I apologize and events. My knowledge is
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: enough to part with your knowledge on music. But when
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: you ask me questions about filming, I've got you. So
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I might need to ask the band guys to educate
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: me a bit as we go about music, you know.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: And one thing that Bud did for his which was
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: really good, and again the music, we'll love this and
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: just laugh at me, but it helped out so much
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: in the edit is when he bounced out the track
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: like the Martian version. He had like these three hit
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: three three hits at the start one two three, and
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: we use that when we recorded all the footage and everything.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Winds up perfectly.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: So there's just things that will ask the band to do.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Like you said before, what do they need to prepare?
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: So we'll let them know what to prepare so it
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: makes it easy later on. So again, nothing ever changes
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: on the cost, like if they turn around and they
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: go oh or here you go.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: If we did something and.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: They say, oh, Chris, we really love this, but we'd
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: love if you could do some AI or CGI effect
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: here that wasn't discussed before. That's going to cost more money. Okay,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: So we'll always lock everything down with the guys. But
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: if the bands want more guys, just saw that PlayStation.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Same PlayStation.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I keep saying PlayStation because I once met this filmmaker
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: who was doing a crowdfunding campaign and kept asking people
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: for money to make this movie, and yet the whole
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: time in his house he had like PlayStations and all
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the stuff that refused to sell. And I always believe
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: if you're not willing to spend your own money, then
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: don't ask another man for money.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: They're all one in that case.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: So if you're not willing to back your own shit,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: then don't do That's a I just remember this guy
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: in his PlayStation, So I keep saying that, and he
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: knows who the fuck is if he's watching this, you
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: know who you are.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Fuck it. So it's going to but yeah, but.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: But but yeah, but just get a vary from video
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: to video what they want. But just say, as a
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: ballpark figure, Yeah, how much would a band be looking
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: at for a minimum? Straight out? Like? How much should
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: they be prepared to say before they come fro us here?
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: So if guys watch the video A delicate murder the
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: stage one that we'll link in the in the story
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: here that there, you know, it's about fifteen hundred bucks.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: That's everything done, you know. But but no, sorry, that's
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: not everything done because the band paid for the stage
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: high So they paid for the stage studio one eight eight,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: which was like three hundred and fifty bucks. So in
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the end it would have cost like eighteen hundred and
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: fifty bucks, but the band paid for that. But look, no,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: you're right, Like, so you know stage one, if it's
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: like what, we come down there and we shoot it
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: through the day, it's about five six hours. You're looking
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: about fifteen hundred bucks. That's everything going shoot at it
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: the whole lot. You know, anything on top of accommodation
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: or stage rental, that's on the band.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: But we discuss all of that. If you're looking at
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: doing something sort of cool, like say.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: You know you want to go out on location when
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you're lighting whatever, you're looking between three and five thousand bucks.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: If it's nothing over the top, right, like if you
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: start getting crazy guys and you do it now, he's going,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I want to teach people if you're going to treat
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: at night now again, the people with the phones, they
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: know damn Or you can't just go into the city
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: with no lighting and try and all of a sudden
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: things start getting dark, they start getting hard. You can't
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: just turn a phone on in the middle of a
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: fucking forest and start filming people.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: So in the movie world, as soon as the sun
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: goes down, the cost goes up.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's that when we know when we're making a movie,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: when you're writing a script, you need all the lights. Okay,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: so it's hard to say three grand if the band
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: wants to cheat everything at nighttime.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, So.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: From the middle of a board and I want to
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: do a chase scene and they want to actresses running,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and you got wardrobe, and you got blood and you
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: got it all costs money. So the best thing for
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: people to do, guys, is because I don't want guys
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: to get scared either going oh shit, we can't for
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: three grand. You might not be able to ford three grand,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: but guys, we might be able to make it for two.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: You just need to talk to me first, ring me up,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: and we say, look, this is what we can do,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: right and otherwise if it's going to cost more, then
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: we just we go into pre production so you can
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: save up, We block it out, we work it out,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: save a bit more money, and then we go and
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: shoot that motherfucker. You know, like, especially if you guys
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: know that you've got to crack a song and you
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: need to fucking crack a music video to go with it,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: then give us a call. And by the way, I
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: don't want to just promote myself. There are so many talented,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: fucking you know people that shoot music videos in this
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: country as well that'll be watching this as well. So
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I'm plugging those guys too, man, Like there's enough work
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: for everybody. But what I'm saying to the guys out
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: there is something. I love the horror genre. So if
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: you want dark and fucked up, I can do that.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: But I also wanted to pop the rap, you know,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I want to shoot that bleing man like fucking all
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: that cool shit. Like we can shoot anything you need, actresses, whatever,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: we know, we can. We can bring these people in.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: So it's just literally a matter of dude. And also
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: to it's like some of these music videos I've watched,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: there's actual dialogue before they start, like they get into
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: like it's like shooting a little short film, right, So
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to do that you need boom and mix and all
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: sorts of stuff, and we have all that.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Equipment, so we have everything we can get in and
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: get it done.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: So the cost of renting the equipment is quite low
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: through cent Entertainer because I have it all.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Charge them an arm and a leg to rent the
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: equipment because we got out there and we got our
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: own lights, we got fucking everything, Bro,