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Killer Thriller: ADAM - The Abduction of Adam Walsh with JoBeth Williams · Legally Brunette

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  Speaker 1: Amy Roboc and TJ. Holmes present Killer Thriller with your
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  Speaker 1: host Alisa Donovan. Hey, everyone, a Lisa Donovan here back
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  Speaker 1: with a new episode of Killer Thriller. Today. On Killer Thriller,
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  Speaker 1: we are talking about the case of Adam Walsh, which
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  Speaker 1: is the story of a young boy who was kidnapped
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  Speaker 1: from a shopping mall and brutally murdered, and his father,
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  Speaker 1: John Walsh, went on to become the face of America's
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  Speaker 1: Most Wanted and he and his wife, Ervey, co founded
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  Speaker 1: the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. It is
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  Speaker 1: a truly extraordinary story. And my guest today is Joe
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  Speaker 1: Beth Williams, who plays Revey Walsh in the TV movie Adam,
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  Speaker 1: and I just first before we can get into that,
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  Speaker 1: we just did the interview and I really need to
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  Speaker 1: break it down with my producer Chrissy. Let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea that we were going to learn
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  Speaker 1: that you spent so much time with them, that they
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  Speaker 1: were on the set.
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  Speaker 2: This is like our first guest that really was being
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  Speaker 2: coached on what the real feelings of these real people
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  Speaker 2: were in real time, and that to me just blows
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  Speaker 2: my mind.
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  Speaker 1: It completely blew my mind as well. And she is
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  Speaker 1: such a con I mean, she is a queen. First
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  Speaker 1: of all. Let's just say that outright. Joe Beth Williams
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  Speaker 1: is just one of the greats of all time and
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  Speaker 1: what a lovely person. I truly feel like it was
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  Speaker 1: a gift that I got to speak with this woman,
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  Speaker 1: and she just the nuance and the care, like she
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  Speaker 1: just was living it in real time, and I just
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  Speaker 1: I can't, I can't get over it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's like break it down, right, so like for for
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  Speaker 2: people who don't really know, like I mean, nowadays, people
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  Speaker 2: don't really know what malls are but.
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  Speaker 1: Exists that it's fair fair.
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  Speaker 2: But like like tell me, like.
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  Speaker 1: To me, to me. One of the things, as as
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  Speaker 1: a mother, the thing I think about so much is
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  Speaker 1: that this mother just brought her her child to the store.
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  Speaker 1: A mall is a grouping of stores in an indoor area,
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  Speaker 1: and so she brought her son with her to go
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  Speaker 1: shopping for this lamp and says, yes, you can stay
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  Speaker 1: over here watching these video games for a few minutes
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  Speaker 1: while I go and handle this thing. And with within
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  Speaker 1: less than five minutes, her son was gone. And as
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  Speaker 1: a parent, as a mother, it's that's like your absolute
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  Speaker 1: worst nightmare, Like she must the guilt, this woman must
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  Speaker 1: have felt on top of the grief on all of it,
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  Speaker 1: like I just it is. It is absolutely unimaginable. So
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  Speaker 1: they and it took weeks for them to locate his body.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just it's an absolutely despicable crime. The child
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  Speaker 1: was beheaded and they found his head and that is
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  Speaker 1: how they identified him. It's and then the case was
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  Speaker 1: wrought with all of this misinformation and botched things and
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  Speaker 1: rules that existed at the time about whether or not
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  Speaker 1: the FBI can be involved and at what point and
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  Speaker 1: if you go across state lines, like all of this
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  Speaker 1: sort of just red tape, which is one of the
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  Speaker 1: things that John Walsh and Revey dove into and made
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  Speaker 1: actual real change to policy afterwards.
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  Speaker 2: And now knowing that, like John Walsh was there so much,
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  Speaker 2: when you think about the film and you think about
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  Speaker 2: the crime, you're thinking now, like, oh, okay, so the
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  Speaker 2: next town over couldn't help them because they had their
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  Speaker 2: own problems or like they really did sleep in a
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  Speaker 2: police station to be able to X to get as
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  Speaker 2: much information as they could.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and to keep pressing them right to be like
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  Speaker 1: this this is a problem. He's gone, like, I it's
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  Speaker 1: just it's it's really uh, this is like this movie
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  Speaker 1: is so powerful.
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  Speaker 2: But they became two people who couldn't walk down a
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  Speaker 2: street without someone being like, I too have this problem,
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  Speaker 2: and I too don't know how to do it. And
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  Speaker 2: it made John want to solve this problem. And they
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  Speaker 2: turned tragedy into something that he used television to tell
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  Speaker 2: his story.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and I love that we talk about that too,
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  Speaker 1: that it really is is using that platform for good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it truly kind of changed how the everyone
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  Speaker 1: looked at not only that case, but going forward how
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  Speaker 1: I mean that also birthed the children on milk curtains
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  Speaker 1: and all of those things that as a child of
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  Speaker 1: the eighties I distinctly remember, and I remember being afraid
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  Speaker 1: that looking at the first looking at the bottom, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the milk cartons, and being like, oh, why is this
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  Speaker 1: person on a you know, like why is there a
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  Speaker 1: picture there? Why is this? Then when you understood why,
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  Speaker 1: it was terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And they used the media to tell their story.
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  Speaker 2: Now like and nowadays, you something happens, there's a crime,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's on television within like two seconds, right, And
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  Speaker 2: before this was kind of like the case that kind
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  Speaker 2: of like used media to help find and solve these
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  Speaker 2: crimes for like really the first time, and using news
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  Speaker 2: and press conferences and all these kinds of things to
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  Speaker 2: add devate like a citizen search, if you right, I
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  Speaker 2: guess it's the best way to kind of put it.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that like all of that in this story,
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  Speaker 2: and then because they knew that power, that's how he became.
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  Speaker 1: Literally the face of saving children. I get he really
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  Speaker 1: is extraordinary. What he did with this.
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  Speaker 2: Tragedy and becoming the face of America's most wanted is
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  Speaker 2: probably birthed out of seeing how good just putting as
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  Speaker 2: much out there into the world could be could help
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  Speaker 2: solve more case.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and that that real deep personal passion that he
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  Speaker 1: has for those circumstances is what compelled the show. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't just the host of this show. He had
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  Speaker 1: a deep, deep goal in mind every second. It's really incredible.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm really excited for people to listen today. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so here is my interview with Joebeth Williams, star of
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  Speaker 1: the TV movie Adam. Welcome, Joe Beth, thank you. I
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  Speaker 1: have to say I am just truly honored to be
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  Speaker 1: speaking with you because I have been a huge fan
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  Speaker 1: of yours for so very many years, and when I
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  Speaker 1: started doing this podcast, I wasn't really thinking about how,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I might get the opportunity to speak
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  Speaker 1: to some people that I really admire, and this is
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  Speaker 1: one of those moments. So thank you very much for
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  Speaker 1: doing this.
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  Speaker 3: Well, thank you happy to be here.
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  Speaker 1: So we are talking about, obviously, Adam, this pretty groundbreaking
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  Speaker 1: TV movie in the sense that it was one of
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  Speaker 1: the very first true crime television films, and it's unique
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  Speaker 1: in a multitude of ways, but which we'll get into.
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  Speaker 1: But do you remember where you were when you first
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  Speaker 1: heard about the story.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I think I was still living in
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  Speaker 3: New York. Then I was back and forth between LA
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  Speaker 3: and New York, and I remember just being so emotionally
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  Speaker 3: devastated when I read the script and when I knew
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  Speaker 3: that it was of course a true story. And then
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  Speaker 3: I found out that the Walshes, John and Reve Walsh,
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  Speaker 3: who were the parents at Adam Walsh, who was the
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  Speaker 3: child who was kind and murdered, that they were going
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  Speaker 3: to be there sometimes on the set, and I thought
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know how they would be able to do that,
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  Speaker 3: and I didn't know how we would be able to
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  Speaker 3: Daniel Travante and I by then. I mean it was
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  Speaker 3: such a gift in a way, but also a sort
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  Speaker 3: of heavy cloak to wear because we were playing real people,
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  Speaker 3: and we were playing real people who had been through
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  Speaker 3: this tragedy, this horrific tragedy.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that was I mean, you just answered like seventeen
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  Speaker 1: of my questions in their instances, because that is that's
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  Speaker 1: such a great way to describe it, a heavy cloak.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember what you even said to them the
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  Speaker 1: first time you met them, Like that's such a loaded moment,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 3: I think the first thing I said was, you know,
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  Speaker 3: probably something inept, like I'm so sorry for your long boss.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, right, you don't know what to say to
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  Speaker 3: people who've been through that. I'm not gonna try and
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  Speaker 3: be you or imitate you. I you know, I just
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  Speaker 3: hope that I can bring an emotional life that you
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  Speaker 3: will feel is truthful, right, right, And having not been
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  Speaker 3: a mother myself at that point.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's what I was going to ask, because it's
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  Speaker 1: if you were a mother yet and not yet at
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  Speaker 1: that point.
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  Speaker 3: No, I wasn't, but I I was married to my husband,
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  Speaker 3: and I knew that I had always wanted to have kids.
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  Speaker 3: I'd always felt that I wanted to have kids because
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  Speaker 3: I was an only child, and as I used to see,
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  Speaker 3: I was a lonely child, although I had a thousand
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  Speaker 3: cousins everywhere. But so I really wanted a family and
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  Speaker 3: I wanted kids. And so this show really made me
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  Speaker 3: think about what a how would you deal with a
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  Speaker 3: lots like that? How would you deal if basically a
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  Speaker 3: part of you was ripped away by some stranger and
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  Speaker 3: it was hard? Yeah, it was hard, and it really
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  Speaker 3: it really put my life in perspective in a strange.
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  Speaker 1: Way, right I bet Well. I want to say, for
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  Speaker 1: anyone who hasn't seen it, the everyone but you and
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  Speaker 1: Daniel in particular, you're You're just both extraordinary in this movie,
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  Speaker 1: Like it's it's uh, I don't even know how to
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  Speaker 1: describe it. It's extraordinarily painful and so nuanced, and I
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  Speaker 1: almost feel like I'm shocked that they and thrilled that
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  Speaker 1: they put this on television, Like it's it's so raw.
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  Speaker 1: And I wanted to ask a couple of specifics that
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  Speaker 1: scene when the two of you, when they Daniel is playing.
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  Speaker 1: John Walsh gets the phone call that they have found
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  Speaker 1: they have identified Adam's body and that scene in the hotel.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember how you even prepared for that or
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  Speaker 1: how you did it? It's one among many of extraordinary scenes,
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  Speaker 1: but that is a very, very viscerally intense scene. So
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  Speaker 1: did they have any input on that? Do you remember
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  Speaker 1: shooting it, how you prepared it, do you remember any
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  Speaker 1: of that.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't feel that I could actually ask Revet about
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  Speaker 3: that moment, but John Walsh talked to Daniel Fravante about it.
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  Speaker 3: He did, he did, and he described tearing up the
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  Speaker 3: hotel room when he got the news. And I think
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  Speaker 3: Daniel and I both did our own personal emotional preparation,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to be available for what might happen. And
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  Speaker 3: I remember that that Daniel went crazy. He basically went crazy,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, it's one of those things when you're
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  Speaker 3: an actor and at the end of the day, you go,
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  Speaker 3: why am I putting myself through this? But it was
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  Speaker 3: it was extraordinary to watch, particularly to watch Dan Travanti
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  Speaker 3: go go through that emotional arc because he was amazing
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  Speaker 3: and he had never experienced anything like that in his life,
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  Speaker 3: and it made me realize, you know, what we can
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  Speaker 3: do as actors, what we can convey.
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  Speaker 1: We should get into the One of the things that
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  Speaker 1: is so unusual. I don't think I've ever seen this
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  Speaker 1: before or since, that at the end of the movie
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  Speaker 1: they show all these faces of actual missing children who
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  Speaker 1: were currently missing at the time, and John Walsh's voice
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  Speaker 1: he narrates it. And I'm getting chills thinking about because
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that that was coming up at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the move When I watched it, I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: And I was so struck by that, and the fact
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  Speaker 1: that the airing of the movie actually helped to find
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  Speaker 1: so many children and to be able to prosecute some
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  Speaker 1: of the perpetrators. I just I it's extraordinary. And did
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  Speaker 1: you know was that in the original script? Did you
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  Speaker 1: know that was going to be at the end?
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  Speaker 3: It was not in the original script. I think I
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  Speaker 3: knew that they were going to do something like that,
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  Speaker 3: that they were going to show pictures of missing kids,
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  Speaker 3: because John Walsh, of course went on to help establish
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  Speaker 3: the Center National Center for Missing.
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  Speaker 1: Missing Exploited Children.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, he he was he had taken
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  Speaker 3: what had happened to him and to them and he
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  Speaker 3: had this fervor, he had this mission, and so I
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  Speaker 3: don't think any of us, when we were doing it,
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  Speaker 3: realized the impact that it would happen, and that that
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  Speaker 3: sort of opened up our nation in a way to
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  Speaker 3: looking at that horrible issue and the statistics and the
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  Speaker 3: fact that these kids were still missing and changed the
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  Speaker 3: way the public thought about it. And I really I
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  Speaker 3: don't I don't think any of it us sort of
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  Speaker 3: anticipated that, but it made me always feel very great
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  Speaker 3: about having been involved. Yes, object that had that kind
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  Speaker 3: of impact.
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  Speaker 1: Right his I mean, his work is on I'm always
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  Speaker 1: struck by you know this, this turning your pain into purpose,
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  Speaker 1: which sounds very simple and trite when we say it,
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  Speaker 1: but he's one of these people that is a true
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  Speaker 1: example of that. And I, you know, I think that's
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  Speaker 1: probably how or I know from I have a dear
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  Speaker 1: friend lost a child a few years ago, and today
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  Speaker 1: actually happens to be the anniversary of that. So this
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  Speaker 1: is a particularly present thing for me today. And uh
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  Speaker 1: she has done something similar where I think that you
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  Speaker 1: come to this place of you, you make a choice
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  Speaker 1: to keep going or you don't, and that's sort of
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  Speaker 1: one of the ways that you know in our human experience,
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  Speaker 1: we can, we can continue to function because it's such
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  Speaker 1: a loss of of of epic proportions that I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how else you survive if you don't put it
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  Speaker 1: into something, you know, something that is positive.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Did you keep in contact with them after the movie?
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  Speaker 3: A little bit? I had, you know, I I saw
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  Speaker 3: John a few times over the years when he was
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  Speaker 3: doing you know, his show and stuff. I haven't seen Revet.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think since since the atom you know, days
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  Speaker 3: of shooting and right after. But I do know I certainly,
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  Speaker 3: you know, sort of kept watch on them in a way.
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  Speaker 3: And I know they went on and had other kids. Yes, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: which is amazing because with many many couples who suffer
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  Speaker 3: something like this, the marriage doesn't survive, yes, because the
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  Speaker 3: pain is just too great. But these were two very
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  Speaker 3: brave and amazing people. M And I think John just
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  Speaker 3: was so committed to what he was doing that he
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  Speaker 3: sort of held everything together in a way.
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  Speaker 1: Those are another several great strong scenes in this movie,
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  Speaker 1: The moment when the two of you are talking about
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  Speaker 1: when they have that realization of you can't run from it,
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  Speaker 1: we can't fly somewhere, you can't go somewhere else. You
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  Speaker 1: sort of can't escape it, like you can't and what
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  Speaker 1: do you do? And I think your character says something like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't you know, like I have I'm numb, but
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  Speaker 1: I have all these tears. I don't know where they're
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  Speaker 1: coming from. And it's like it just is this endless
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  Speaker 1: kind of you just don't know where where to go
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  Speaker 1: or how you're going to survive it. And I did
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  Speaker 1: think did they talk at all? Well, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: did Revey ever say anything to you about your performance?
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  Speaker 1: In particular?
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  Speaker 3: I felt from her that I had her blessing in
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  Speaker 3: a way, right, And I know certainly they were they
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  Speaker 3: were really happy that that it got the kind of
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  Speaker 3: attention that it did, because yes, really helped their desire
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  Speaker 3: to make it a national issue.
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  Speaker 1: Right right, I mean in that America's Most Wanted became
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  Speaker 1: a hugely successful program that he created that also wound
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  Speaker 1: up saving a multitude of children and find many perpetrators,
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  Speaker 1: including Elizabeth Smart's case that was apparently a you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was going cold and they couldn't find anyone, and
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  Speaker 1: he put the perpetrator on television and they caught him.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of it's just unreal, and there were all
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  Speaker 1: so many laws. This is something that I just learned.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you knew this, that they code
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  Speaker 1: atom is now a thing that they use in department
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  Speaker 1: stores and malls, and it's something that they train everyone
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  Speaker 1: in apparently, and they will say code atom if a
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  Speaker 1: child is missing, and that then triggers all of these
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  Speaker 1: protocols like shutting of doors. Everyone has a specific job,
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  Speaker 1: like your primary purpose. You stop what you're doing and
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  Speaker 1: you look for this child, like all the people that
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  Speaker 1: work in these stores. I mean, it's it's really amazing
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  Speaker 1: what he's what he's done.
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  Speaker 3: It is extraordinary. It's extraordinary. Yeah, that you know that
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  Speaker 3: that one movie on television can have that kind of
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  Speaker 3: impact kind of makes you wonder why we don't use
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  Speaker 3: it better?
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, right, it's such a resource that we could
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  Speaker 1: really utilize in a far more positive way.
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  Speaker 3: Well it's you know, but also it's also for entertainment,
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  Speaker 3: so it's right, Yeah, it's a right, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Also, you're returning to the big screen in another project
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  Speaker 1: where you have lost a child, and it's called it's
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  Speaker 1: Joe Carnihan's survival thriller Not Without Hope and it's based
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  Speaker 1: on the true story book about the two thousand and
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  Speaker 1: nine Golf of Mexico accident. So what is what do
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  Speaker 1: you want to tell us about that? And because this time,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's a different story obviously, but it's the
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  Speaker 1: similarity of a mother losing a child.
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  Speaker 3: Was there.
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  Speaker 1: Did you feel any connection between the two pieces or.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I've for whatever reason throughout my career. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if you look at Poltergeist, for example, there's a there
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  Speaker 3: I'm playing a mother of a missing child.
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  Speaker 1: So great, Oh my gosh, I didn't even think about.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even think about that, but I have to
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  Speaker 3: rescue her right. This seemed to be my callings.
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  Speaker 1: It's a recurring theme for you.
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  Speaker 3: I've had many you know, now adult people say I
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  Speaker 3: wanted you to be my mummy because you went to
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  Speaker 3: come back to get to get right.
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  Speaker 1: I felt that way. Poultergeist was the first film of yours,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the first project of yours that I saw because I
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: was too young at the time for a big chill
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: in some of like the other amazing movies, but wow, Poultergeist.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Poltergeist like multiple in the theater viewings of that movie.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: And certainly, I mean now I am a mother now,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I have children and a grandchild. And it was interesting
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: because when I did not without hope, which was you know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: just very recently, and it is a true story. And
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: again I played a woman whose son is out in
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: a fishing boat with friends and they can't find them.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: They don't come back, the coastguard can't find the huge
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: storm comes up, so you know, I'm left I and
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: my ex husband and my son's girlfriend and all are
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: just left not knowing. And I certainly some of some
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: of what I some of the feelings that came out
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: in Adam and even in Poltergeist were there the sort
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: of the terror and in this case the anger of
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: this woman who can't get answers from chicerarly from the coastguard.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: And Josh Duamel plays the the head of the Coastguard,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: who I'm you know, demanding answers about why they haven't
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: found my son and why they can't get helicopters out there,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: and all of that sort of mother mother, lioness, protective
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: insis came came to the four in this movie and
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: it's a powerful story. It's it's really amazing. And Joe
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Krnan his direction, I mean, we shot in Malta with
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: in this huge tank that levels out into the ocean
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: actually so they could shoot the boat scenes, which are
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: extraordinary and these guys trying to survive in this storm.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: It's a it's a good movie. It really is a
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: good movie. It's got Zachary Levi and Josh Tamel and.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Ten you that's all that matters and.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Me and Forriana Lima and a wonderful cast. But it's
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: and it's still in theaters somewhere but some places. But
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: it's also now available video on demand and it's going
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: to be streaming on Paramount Plus starting in April. So
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: okayat it's it's a really it's it'll hold you. It's
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: and it's a true story.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: So I will definitely watch it before we close. Did
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: you know that they were going to do the sequel
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: to Adam while you were while you were shooting the
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: first one or did that come later?
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: It later?
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had no idea that there would be the sequel,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: and and I'm sure it may have been the minds
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: of the you know, writers and producers, but I'm sure
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: it was it was when they saw the impact of
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: what the first one had that they felt it would
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: that they should extend the story. Yeah, and so that
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: that was very interesting too, to sort of do the
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: continuation of that.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Right, which covers a lot of the the that struggle
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: to keep the marriage together and of all of the
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: things that come in the in in in in the aftermath.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Well, I just this has been such a pleasure for me.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: You're I'm truly a fan, as I said, and I
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: admire you and this this movie is really just it's beautiful.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: And I know the sect. The sequel is streaming and
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: you I think you can see the original as well,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and I just recommend that people do. And uh, is
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: there anything else you'd like to add?
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: No, not really, just that it's a for me. It's
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: been a real honor to play some real women. I
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: played Marybeth Whitehead, who was the first surrogate mother in
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: a Baby m And it's always complicated. I mean, there
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: are always many sides and you know, many directions that
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: and many different points of view about different people who
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: are real people. So that's been interesting. But as an actress,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: it's provided me with a real challenge that I have
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: enjoyed being able to pursue.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I always wonder if these projects. Do you think that
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: there was any kind of personal healing for John and
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Revey from doing this movie or certainly I know because
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: it did so much for their organizations and the work
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: that they were doing. But I do wonder if personally,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: you know, it gave them any kind of healing or enclosure.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody ever really gets that.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: But I don't feel really equipped to say, but my
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: instinct says yes, that that they found sort of a
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: strengthening of a direction and a purpose, particularly after people
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: saw it and there was this huge response. I'm sure
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: that must have helped them sort of find a way
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: to use their energies and their grief that was productive
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: at the time when we were shooting. I don't know.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I know that it was very hard for them both,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: particularly for Revey I think, to be there when we
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: were when we were actually shooting, But John Walsh was
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: just he was very determined and so he was there
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: quite a.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Lot, quite a lot. Yeah. Well, I have really enjoyed
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: spending time with you, and thank you so much for
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: being with me today.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Thank you, It's been a pleasure, a real pleasure.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Glad and again you can catch Joebeth's new movie Not
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Without Hope in limited theaters now and it will start
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: streaming in April. So I want to hear what cases
• 30:12
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• 30:15
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