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"LIVE from Lost Rhino Brewing" Episode 70 · DMV Mess Hall

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These fans are excited. We want it.
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We're thirsty for, we're hungry for.
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And Speaking of which, I want to get some of them up here right
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now. So, Josh, I know you got to go
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in a little bit. Hop on up, man.
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How you doing, Josh? Oh, just peachy.
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It's great to see you all big fans of the DMV Mess Hall.
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You all do great work, so it's great to see the set up here
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today. Gentlemen.
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Well, we appreciate you coming out there.
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Definitely saw that you're going to be out of camp today.
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Appreciate you stopping by. I know you do a show as well.
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Working on listeners find you. All streaming platforms, I've
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been taking a break. You know, I just got to say, if
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you need to take a break, take that break.
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And that's what I've been doing. But the Kirby on Sports Podcast
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www.kirby on sports.com all streaming platforms All
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listening platforms. It's.
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Been a blast for five years and all the connections I've made
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today. You've probably seen me go
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around talking to everybody and it's just a lot of fun handing
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out my business cards and making more connections everywhere I
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go. It is.
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It definitely is. And I mean we we know all the
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same people that we swim in the same circles.
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But I want to hear from your perspective, how do you feel a
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as a fan once these guys took over and what's your thoughts on
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this season specifically this year?
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Well, once they took over, I feel like myself, along with the
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rest of the fan base, more of a sigh of relief, if you get what
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I mean. And like that hope, like that
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light at the end of the tunnel is, so to speak, like the
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commanders are turning the page. Getting things going, we can
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finally see a good football team here who could potentially win a
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couple playoff games. I'm not saying it's going to
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happen overnight, but I think the new ownership is in the step
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in the right direction. So this season, I mean, looking
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at Chase, I know we've had a lot of conversations about Chase and
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how he's going to look, how Sam Howell is going to look, but I
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feel like. Ron Rivera and Eric the enemy.
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Eric the enemy I love. I loved his energy out there at
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training camp today, but I feel like the right coaching staff is
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in place. I I will say that Ron Rivera, I
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think he might be on a short leash this year just based on
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what I'm hearing, what I'm seeing.
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But. I I I think it overall it's
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going to be a decent year. I don't think they're going to
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make the playoffs, but I think big strides are going to be made
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to see where this commander's team will be headed moving
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forward. So I got a question for you.
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So as a fan, what are you most looking for this year as a fan,
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not from. The football side, But just as a
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fan, as a fan, I'm hoping. More fan friendly, like
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Commander. Stuff like this.
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Training camp was amazing. I'm going to be coming to a lot
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more more fan friendly stuff, hopefully more content creator
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stuff too, because last year I'm not sure if you were there, but
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the draft they had like boots where people could set up,
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bringing players around, so on and so forth.
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So stuff like that. I feel like the new internship
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in Jason, right? I talked to him for like. 5
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minutes Today I was like, I you don't get that with any other
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team president. I mean I I would think but he
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took his time. I was like man you're doing
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great work what you did for the content creators and just share
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my work with him and everything and it it's just so great to see
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some more fan friendly stuff like that.
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I feel like that would be amazing to see.
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If agreed. There's definitely a lot of
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stuff going on. I've missed that last year
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during actually two years ago during the draft because I was
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doing a charity event at the stadium.
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But if today shows you anything, they are wanting to welcome the
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fans back. They're trying to give us
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outlets. I mean I was laughing and joking
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with was was Sherry Burris that we saw today from NFL Network.
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That's the draft day party at National Harbor.
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The credit card machines didn't work and you have a merchandise
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tent and people cannot buy stuff.
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And no one cares cash anymore? No, because most places don't
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take cash, but it's like those little small things today where
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they had a massive tent. It felt like we were in Richmond
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without the good BBQ. I mean, from a setup
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perspective, they had the massive tent out there.
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They are making the investments to make fans want to come back
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and spend money. And that is something I'm
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excited for because to me that money is going to go back into
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other things that is going to want players to come here,
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facilities, things like that. And hearing you know, Magic was
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a player. Granted, different sport, but he
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knows, and Joe Gibbs was a huge proponent of this.
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If you make the players happy and don't have them want for
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anything, then they will perform better.
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And to me it's the same thing for this band base.
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If you keep us fat and happy, then eventually the winds will
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come. You can't control the winds
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right off the bat as a new ownership group, but there's
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other stuff within your purview that you can affect, and they're
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trying to do that now. Today out at Ashburn, let's face
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it, we all watch NFL Network. And when you watch NFL Network
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and they go around the different teams, you see that that's the
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true training camp if NFL Network without an Ashburn a
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day. And they pan that camera.
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It would make you feel as though you're at a true training camp
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for the first time. I'm you know what I'm saying?
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That the vibe was there. It was a training Camp 5.
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Absolutely. More so than than ever before.
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Thing is, I mean, how do we know?
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Because it's never felt like that.
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I've been to training camp for two plus decades.
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It has never felt like that. And I don't go to Fan
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Appreciation Day just because I don't want to deal with the
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traffic, not because I don't want to be bunks, everybody.
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It's just a lot of people and it's on the weekend and I'm not
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going to go this Saturday because they're expecting 10,000
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people. Well.
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They're not calling it Fan Appreciation Day.
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What exactly are they calling it?
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Back to football day or? Something Yeah, yeah.
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So a lot of people have been asking me, I don't see where it
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says Fan Appreciation. They're not calling it Fan
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Appreciation Day, they're calling it something else.
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But nevertheless, it is happening this Saturday.
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This Saturday is when it's happening.
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So back together Saturday is what they're calling it, and I
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think that's an NFL thing. But I know you've been a
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training camp before. I mean, just your thoughts on
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how practices run. Well, what do you mean from a
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coaching standpoint? Like on the field, Eric the
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enemy? I mean just his energy, his
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intensity, like there was a miscue or something.
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He's like get off the field, get off the field.
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He said it 3-4 times. I don't remember the exact
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instance on what happened, but his energy, I'm like, Oh my
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gosh, but just looking from afar.
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It looked like the players were in it.
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The coaches. I don't really see Rivera much
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but Eric B Enemy he just stood out to me he was a get off the
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field. I that energy if that keeps up
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throughout the season I I I think this offense might be
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kicking into another year with him and his style because he
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only expects the most out of the players and if they're if the
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offense is not going to give their best to the coaching staff
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and Eric B enemy. They might have to take a seat.
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So Speaking of Eric Bien and me, him being the assistant head
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coach, I'm big on this question, so I'm going to put you on the
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spot here and I ask everyone this question.
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When is the last time that the Redskins Washington football
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team slash commanders have had an assistant head coach?
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I can't say off the top of my head.
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No one can. It's been a long time now.
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We talked to EB from the junkies, right?
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That was Grandpa. My bad, My bad, brother, hey, my
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bad, my bad. But Grant I asked him and he had
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the same response. And then he thought about it and
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he said Joe Gibbs. And so Joe Gibbs and I said,
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well, we don't know if it was Joe Gibbs one or Joe Gibbs 2.0.
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So, but the fact is, he is. The assistant head coach, which
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speaks volumes to me because okay, I'll tell you who it was.
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It was Joe Gibbs. Two point O and it was Greg
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Williams. Greg Williams, he was the
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assistant head coach and I can see that because granted, I I
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really feel that if this franchise, if Snyder would have
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let Greg Williams be the head coach after Joe Gibbs, then we
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would have had a better trajectory that we would have
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not had so many years of just losing everything else have.
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You start all over again. Yeah, Greg, he's a good coach.
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I mean, he's done fantastic stuff with the DC defenders and
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their defense and everything else.
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But yeah, Greg Williams. That answer that question then
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finally, so but I I'm right there with you, but Josh want to
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make sure we get to some other fans here.
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One last thing. Give me a bull prediction.
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What's Josh Kirby's bull prediction for the Commanders
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this year? It can be on the field.
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It can be off the field. Just give me something.
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Ron Rivera gets canned if they don't win more than three out of
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their. The first three out of their
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six, Yeah, I I think he's gone. If they can't get off to a very
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hot start and I think Eric the enemy takes over.
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That's that's my bold prediction.
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And I mean, maybe I see Ron Rivera more in this stage as
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some guy who runs in the front office.
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Doing stuff because he seen it seemed like last year he was
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doing everything. I heard the press conference
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where he said it. It feels good not to be a
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manager. So we'll just have to see if
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he's actually focusing on just the football field because you
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know all that other stuff that we're going to forget about.
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He had to. He had to deal with that in a
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way. Let's not get get our minds.
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To answer treatments and everything.
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That too, but I mean with all that stuff.
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Piling on he had to answer a lot of non football related
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questions and he's getting back to football.
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So I feel like though and I'm hearing this all around from
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different people, I know different connections.
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If he does not get off to a hot start and the commanders are
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like maybe three and five, three and six, something like that, I
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I feel like he's gone. I agree with you.
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I mean, I I think that was my prediction a couple weeks ago
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that I don't think Ron's gonna live out his contract.
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His teams historically start off slow and then end up picking up
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a little bit of steam. And then we usually go, you
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know, 7:00 or 8:00 and then somehow we managed to go 500
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last year at 8-8 and one. So I he is not managing the
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offense, he's not managing the defense, he's not really general
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managing the team because we've got the Marty's in place.
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So what is he doing other than taking a paycheck?
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And I think that he will be let go in the beginning of the
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season. Yeah, it was absolutely
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terrible. And Eric, the editor, finally
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gets a shot to see what he can actually do.
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Because you heard it. Sam House says he has total
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control of Eric Gaming's offense, and Ron didn't really
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do much today. I'll be out there for four or
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five days of training camp. I'll be curious to see what he
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actually does, because he didn't even know that we could get
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kicked out of the playoffs last. And I tell you what I I bet.
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That Cleveland was going to be Washington because he put,
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Carson once said. I'm fine with the once decision
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to have him play because you had $28 million wrapped up in the
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table. You had to find out what he had
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in him. But he rested his hat on Carson
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Wentz. I'm the guy that looked at the
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tape and the bleeding analytics and everything else.
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And you know what didn't work out?
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That was after a win, too, Against Chicago, against
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Chicago. And he gets pised that.
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That they're talking about Carson and and he just stormed
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off after a win too. That says a lot but I I'm not a
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fan of his. You knows I'm not a fan of his.
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I'm very public about it and I hope for this fan base that I'm
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wrong and that you're wrong and that he does well and that's the
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hogs have a tough decision to make on do they extend him.
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But he is a lame duck coach and typically lame duck coaches it
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can. And I made a comment on Fox 5
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last week, said that he's a dead man walking.
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And I got so much crap for that because of fans saying, you
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know, he came back from cancer and this and that, like.
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True, He did. Yeah, he did.
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Get your panties out a bunch, right?
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He's a dead man walking because his track record is He starts
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off slow. He does not have a winning
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record as a head coach. Period.
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He has won three seasons as a NFL head coach.
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He luck box his way into Cam Newton.
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I always want to say that Steve Spurrier to the coach, Cam
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Newton to 15 to 1 so we can see what he does with his team.
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But for the longest time Eric the enemy never got credit for
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his offense. It was always Andy Reid.
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If this team does well offensively, it ain't going to
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be because of Ron. It's going to be because of the
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enemy. So other than Ron already being
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paid and coaches contracts being guaranteed, he should be going
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to mine. Well, it starts September 10th.
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And that'll be the new day that we see what this regime is going
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to do. Jeffrey, appreciate you being on
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the show with this man. Appreciate you.
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Keep in touch, keep on doing what you do best.
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You all do great work. Thank you all.
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Thanks for coming, man. All right, Mellow, let's get you
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up here, brother. We got DJ Mellow T coming up
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right now. That's right from the mellow
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slide. What's going on, fellas?
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It's good to see you, man. It's good to finally meet you in
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person. I've heard so much about you.
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And then rally did the Cowboys home rally right.
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My boys restaurant, right. You guys seem to have a blast
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there. I'm hoping we can you know, make
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that a ritual. Absolutely back here in the DC
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area and just glad you're able to make it out of here, the
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brewery and hang out with us again.
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Something to think about Rally. That's a good, good, good idea.
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Oh, by the way, same my same sentiments to you, Ted.
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I'm finally glad. Glad to meet you.
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Heard good things about you from Rally Got.
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You know, knew about the show, knew about your podcast.
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But here we go, my man. So I'm glad to be here, man.
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Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
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Thanks for having me. And and you too, my main rally
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captain right here. So it's a good look.
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Y'all. Appreciate you coming out, man.
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It means a lot. I'm here, baby.
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I'm here. So what were your thoughts, man,
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when you have you been at training camp in the past?
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When's the last time you were? Oh, absolutely.
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Multiple years, multi years. So I ran in a rally cap over the
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years. You know you've been down in
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Richmond a couple times. Back in the day when Back in the
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day. But I I picked my spots and
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picked my, you know, I choose my times based on what I got going
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on in the other life, you know? This crazy business I'm in, what
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would you say is one of the biggest changes since you've
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been to other training camps? What would you say was one of
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the biggest changes from the from the other training camps to
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today's training camp? Oh, gotcha.
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Good question. I would say the need, the new,
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the renewed feel of enthusiasm and the air that you, it's a
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different air, it's a new air. You know, you can, you can just
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walk right through it, you know, you can just see it, man.
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And it's like a renewed sense of let's get it, you know, let's we
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here we can breathe again. That's what I feel.
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I feel like the fan base. Is feeling that same, you know,
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across the board, the landscape. I was looking at them very
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intently. But you know, when we were
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together earlier and I was really looking at the faces and
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I was looking at the the, the whole thing, the camaraderie,
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the new, just like I said, it's a renewed sense of we got that
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cloud from over our head, Let's get this thing cracked.
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That's what I feel. I'm right there with you.
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I mean our listeners obviously here rally, they hear me, they
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understand, you know that from an early perspective we kind of
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have our feelings. But from your standpoint, yes,
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you felt it today too. Absolutely.
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I mean, we're talking to executives standing along the
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sideline telling them I have never seen a weekday.
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It is Thursday, Thursday at 9:00 in the morning when most people
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should be at work, right? Most people, it was standing
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room only. Those bleachers hold 2000
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people, so there were at least 2000 people there.
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Not to count, all the other fans lined up behind us, standing in
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the typical spot. At least three deep.
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Yeah, absolutely. Plus the other section on the
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other side of the field that was full there.
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I mean, this is just, it's unreal.
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And someone put on Twitter that's this fan base is a
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sleeping giant that is ready to wake up.
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And if today does not show that, then you must be Stevie Wonder
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and you're blind. This isn't this isn't the 19. 99
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two thousand, this is 2023 and like you said, we're ready to
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roar. Prince said it all.
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You're sleeping, Giant. He got a line in his pocket.
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We're we're ready to roar, man. We we really are.
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So I want to ask you this question.
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I feel it's going to take a couple of years.
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And the Harris ownership group is saying that, you know,
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there's 31 other NFL owners, they're trying to do the same
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thing, right? This fan base has been dying to
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win for over 2 decades. Got you.
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We're in a honeymoon phase, right?
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Right. How much time will you give them
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to actually get this thing back on track?
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As far as a Super Bowl appearance?
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As far as winning again as far as being in the playoffs?
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I actually think that we can hit the playoffs this year.
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This year. I do.
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I was watching the squad intently.
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The squad last year and you know both of you guys are hardcore
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fans like myself, so you know, y'all are very intent with the
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goings, ONS and of the mechanisms, who's doing what and
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who ain't doing that. I really feel as though there
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are some extremely talented pieces that have been
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implemented on this team that are now going to take shape with
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the addition of Sam Howell because he is a sleeper.
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I'm telling you, he is a sleeper and he the kicking ball.
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And he ain't scared. That's the most important thing.
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He's not scared at the moment. That's what I look for,
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especially in the quarterback. And he can do it all.
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He doesn't know it all. Of course, we all know there's
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room for improvement. So to answer that question, I'm
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going to give it to you. They can hit the playoffs this
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year. I don't know how far, but the
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Sky's the limit once you get there.
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And if you hit your stride, who the well, who the heck knows
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what's going to happen? But I I give him a shot to go
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in. And if not this year, not too
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far behind. Trust me, I see.
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They're just that talented. Especially if the difference
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shows up. A lot's going to hinge on Chase
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Young as well. This will make or break year for
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him. He's going to be good or he
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going to be out of here. That's it.
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Well, Melo, I like him. Sam Howe to Neo from The Matrix.
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And if did you watch The Matrix? Yeah, So in the beginning of the
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Matrix. They didn't know, was he the One
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or what did he turn out. He turned out to be the One.
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And so that's how I view me Sam Howe right now as Neo because he
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basically right now against Dallas.
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I like your analysis, by the way.
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Against Dallas, he he No one thought, no one gave him a
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chance, just like Neo. But now all of a sudden the
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people in the background are saying maybe he is the One
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exactly and so. Let's just see if he can
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continue what he did against Dallas in 22 in this 23 season
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to to have your prediction come true.
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Exactly. And and let's hope that is the
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case. So Ted, I just don't think we're
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that far off. I hear you, but let's just say
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they don't make the playoffs. How much time are you going to
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give them before the honeymoon's over?
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Not long at all. One to two year window.
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Really. One to two year, Because you
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know they're going to do that with this new renewed sense of
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urgency and fan enthusiasm and player enthusiasm, ownership
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enthusiasm. You can't sit around as an
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organization and not give the pieces that are needed.
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You're going to have to bring them because we ain't waiting
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for that, because nobody's waiting.
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We've waited 2 decades. Thank you.
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So there's no more waiting. So if they missed the missed the
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boat this year, trust me, it won't be long after it because
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we in that phase now let's go. I like the excitement.
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I like the enthusiasm. I like your protection.
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I hope you're right. I just don't think that Sam can
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do it on his own. I know he can't do it on his
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own. And the problem is going to be
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that offensive line. And we saw the offensive line
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get destroyed today, just absolutely demolished.
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Sam got sacked at least three times.
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If they were allowed to take him to the ground, a bunch of balls
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flew up in the air. But the problem is.
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You can't really see anything because the guys want that pads
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on. The guys aren't engaging, but we
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have 4 new guys starting on that offensive line in new positions
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and that to me Sam can be all world, but if he doesn't have a
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couple of guys up front that can actually block for and give him
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some time, it ain't going to matter.
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I like that good, good perspective.
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If I can respond, may I? Sure.
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That's why you guys were talking about.
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Be enemy. That's the be enemy effect is
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going to come in. That's when the be enemy effect
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is going to come in because he is not going to allow that kid
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to get beat up because what he'll do is put those guys in
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front of him the the old line you're talking about and he will
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put them in a punishment bro. Because he don't be playing.
22:20
He will put them in a punishment where they will not want to
22:23
allow a sack. It's a different guy.
22:25
It's a different sheriff in town, bro.
22:28
I agree with you. Definitely a different guy in
22:30
town. So let's go back a couple years.
22:33
Let's go back to 2012. Yes, we know that the offensive
22:36
line in 2012 was not that good, but what made them look good?
22:41
RG3's legs, of course. So we know that Sam Howe has,
22:44
he's not as fast as RG3, but we saw when he played for North
22:48
Carolina the fact that he had scrambling ability and he could
22:52
think on the fly. So what I see is the way, the
22:56
same way that the Shanahans did with RG3, rolling him out,
23:02
making playing to his strong suits.
23:05
That's what I see. EB, after possibly the first
23:08
game or even the first preseason game or the the first, the
23:10
first, actually practice against Baltimore when they really have
23:14
another jersey in front of them who's playing for something more
23:18
than just kudos from your boy, you know?
23:20
So I think that once that true talent comes and they play each
23:25
other, EB's will say hypothetically okay, yeah, we're
23:30
not where we need to be. So I'm going to have to figure
23:32
out some offensive plays to roll my quarterback out the same way
23:35
they deal with RG. So I think that like you, we'll
23:39
be okay. I think we'll be okay.
23:42
Especially with him as Shift Man, I just, I just feel that
23:45
y'all. I hear you and I've.
23:48
I've got that energy. I've got that excitement for
23:50
beyond me. I just wish that they gave him a
23:56
chance to get some more weapons in this draft.
23:59
To go first pick and 2nd pick defensive back to me was doing a
24:03
disservice to your new fall offensive coordinator where you
24:06
have invested in defense after how many years in a row on this
24:10
team and you have not made a true significant investment in
24:13
offense. You have put in scrubs on
24:17
offensive line guys that would not have been picked up by other
24:21
teams. Fourth round picks, fifth round
24:24
picks in your offensive line. At a certain point you have to
24:27
invest in a stunt. And that's something they
24:29
invested in, was Cosby, who is a tackle.
24:32
Now they're moving a men to guard.
24:34
You know, you just you can't let the most popular position on
24:40
your football team because of your past Super Bowl wins be
24:43
completely neglected like that. And they should have gave him
24:46
some help and okay Nick Gates coming in from the Giants.
24:51
That's great, but. Can he stay healthy?
24:53
Can he be healthy? There is just too many question
24:56
marks at a line and we're not going to know until they put the
25:00
pads on, until they go against the Ravens, until they're
25:03
actually doing some stuff in preseason.
25:04
But really, we're not going to know until week four, Week 5
25:07
because of attrition. This is a game that takes a toll
25:10
on its players and can these guys stand up and hold up?
25:14
Yes, one of the questions that I like to ask you B and I don't
25:16
think it was brought up and and if it has been, maybe you guys
25:19
can answer this question. Had you mentioned getting him
25:23
some help? How much say did he have in the
25:27
draft? Do you know?
25:29
That's a good point. How much say?
25:30
Because he may have said. I think, I think we're okay.
25:33
Well, the lineman a lot of the the top tier lineman went before
25:36
we picked at that point. So because they weren't there
25:39
they're going best player available.
25:41
But a lot of people say well that Emmanuel Forbes was not the
25:43
best player available. They would rather go on
25:45
Christian Gonzalez than what to the.
25:46
I agree. But to me, if Forbes fits the
25:49
system and I love Fred. But Fred could sell salt to a
25:54
slug. I mean, the way he talks, he's
25:57
hyping up Forbes like he's the next second coming of Champ
26:00
Bailey. But we'll have to wait and see
26:03
how we can handle today. I mean, I told you, hey, there's
26:05
Forbes. Watch out.
26:06
He's turned sideways. You can't see him.
26:08
You know, I mean, he's a stick figure right there.
26:13
But I just wish that we had a chance to actually see what he
26:17
could do. And.
26:19
Because Ron is a defensive guy, I feel that some of that was
26:22
kind of lean towards that side of the ball.
26:24
But you know full well that's the offensive line has been
26:28
struggling for a very long time and we'll see what happens and
26:31
hopefully this camp we get a chance to actually see because I
26:34
talked about this the other day. They constantly love saying iron
26:38
sharpens iron. Well, this offensive line has
26:40
been going against this defensive line for how many
26:43
years now and I'm sorry that knife is dull.
26:46
It ain't getting sharp. We going to find out when they
26:50
play Baltimore. Yeah, we will the joint
26:52
practices. We will yeah.
26:54
And I I can't wait to actually shout out to to well I hope to
27:01
be at training camp against the joint practices in Baltimore.
27:05
My fingers are crossed I may have a situation where I might
27:09
be able to attend so I'll just keep it right there.
27:11
But if so you guys are going to see and I'm going to give these
27:14
guys a true critique of what I feel and well for you got you
27:20
fans, you know that. Yeah I am.
27:22
I'm a very, I'm an optimist, I I want to see the best.
27:25
But if it's not there, you're going to hear the real rally,
27:29
you know? So yeah, if I'm able to go, if
27:33
I'm able to go and I can actually see what they look like
27:36
in pads against another color jersey, I'll give you my honest
27:40
opinion and critique of how far we can go this season.
27:44
We welcome it. I welcome it.
27:46
Definitely and Speaking of welcome.
27:47
Thank you. Appreciate it, Mel.
27:49
Thank you so much. Thanks for having me, Fam.
27:50
Speaking of which before you go, yes Sir.
27:52
Are you working on any new projects or anything like that
27:54
you that you can talk about? Oh, yeah, actually, yeah.
27:56
Well, yeah, we have the we will, we will be filming I think next
28:01
week actually the continuing footage for my new Commander
28:05
Stomp song and which you will be in, of course.
28:08
And you're already on the song rally Cap, ladies and gentlemen.
28:11
And so we'll be doing that. And of course I have the new the
28:15
new song Let the Good Times Roll.
28:17
Popping out real soon for the HBC us.
28:20
And yeah, I got three other things I'm working on.
28:23
And where can they find these songs?
28:24
Oh, absolutely. Everything is going to be when
28:26
it's up. It's going to be on all digital
28:28
platforms, you know, Spotify, the Apple Music Shoot, you name
28:32
it, every Amazon Music, everything.
28:35
And all the videos will be on YouTube and.
28:38
Every other platform you know, it'll be, you know, distro, kid,
28:40
everything. So we'll be rocking it nice.
28:42
We'll be hitting it, you know. Glad to have you on board that
28:44
thing too, bro. Like Ted say, we got to get that
28:46
thing popping. I like the the rally thing, but
28:49
especially them Cowgirls. Thank you all for having me.
28:53
I appreciate. You Ted.
28:54
We. Appreciate you to your rally
28:55
cap. All right, now peace out, bro.
28:57
Sir. You're one of the most positive
29:00
fans I know, but there is someone to me that is more
29:02
positive than you, and I got to ask him to come up here more
29:05
positive than me. Yeah, it's him.
29:07
We got my boy Tim Meek in the house from Indianapolis.
29:10
Come on up, Tim. So it is the first day of
29:13
training care and this man flew. I think he flew.
29:18
He drove. He drove you.
29:19
Drove all the way out here, he drove.
29:22
For training, Care put it on. He drove from Indianapolis.
29:32
True fan. How long did that take you, man?
29:34
Okay, the drive from India is not as bad as it probably
29:37
sounds. It's about 8 1/2 hours.
29:40
So with me a lot of times when I come out here, a lot of times
29:44
when I come out here, it's because or or how I get out here
29:48
depends on travel as you know very well rally.
29:51
There's flights like this time that the the timing didn't work
29:55
out. So I could have got here today
29:57
but I'm going to miss camp today and I have a lot going on out
29:59
here. I'm visiting some family, going
30:01
to an Orioles game, playing some golf, so.
30:04
The way the flights lined up, the the timing just wasn't going
30:06
to work. So I drove.
30:08
Yeah, that's dedication, right? 8 1/2 hours each way.
30:13
But I I do it all the time. I do whatever I got to do to
30:16
support the team. That's what we do.
30:19
It is. It is that's.
30:21
What all three of us do? For those that don't know, I
30:23
mean, Tim, I don't know how you don't know.
30:25
If you listen to the show, you're a fan of the team.
30:27
I mean, Tim lives in Indy and he represents burgundy and gold.
30:31
I mean just through and through and I was telling rally before
30:34
he walks up here to me I I wanted to do the show a rally
30:37
because he is kind of the counter thought to me.
30:41
He is very glasses half full whereas I am it's half empty at
30:46
times And you the glass is always full, it is never empty
30:50
and that juice is fresh and there is no pulp in there
30:53
depending on how you like it. So I mean, how have you stayed
30:57
so positive throughout? At least past 24 years, man, I'm
31:02
especially being out there. I mean, it's a long story, but
31:05
the the gist of it is I've been out of market my entire life.
31:10
So this team, the way I view it, is different than how you guys
31:13
may view it here. I never attended a home football
31:17
game until 2012. Really.
31:19
Really. But really, what brought me into
31:23
this community? Was being at Canton for the Monk
31:27
and Green art and Darrell. I was there in Canton for the
31:32
for that celebration for that weekend.
31:34
Was the first time in my entire life and I was in my late 20s, I
31:37
believe when when I went to that.
31:39
I'd never been around other Redskins fans at that level.
31:43
I've always lived out of market where I'll go to a road game in
31:46
whatever city I may have lived in.
31:48
You're going to see a couple 100, maybe 1000 fans, but we're
31:50
not all together. I'm not tailgating those people.
31:53
We're not really talking to those people.
31:54
We're going to high five each other if we're in the same
31:56
section. And that was about it.
31:58
So the first time I go to Canton, I'm around thousands and
32:01
thousands. Oh my gosh.
32:03
I I. So you were there.
32:05
I my, we pulled into the parking lot where they shuttle you to
32:10
the stadium, right? And those buses were full.
32:19
Of Redskins fans, One after another, just shuttle after
32:22
shuttle. So I step on the bus for the
32:24
first time. I just got in there and on the
32:28
bus ride over, The very short bus ride over, they're singing
32:31
hailed with Redskins as a group. I've never heard that in my
32:35
life. I never been around.
32:36
I was in tears as a as a young man I was brought to tears and
32:41
the whole weekend was just nothing but tears.
32:43
Meeting people tail, truly tailgating with other fans.
32:48
Experiencing that atmosphere that we had there because you
32:52
were so close to the players, you know, I'm talking to art and
32:55
to Darrell and Fred Smoot, and for as far as players from that
32:59
era. I was talking to Fred Smoot and
33:01
Chris Cooley and all those guys from that generation, and I was
33:05
already a rabid fan. But that made me realize this is
33:09
what brings me to life and it makes me happy.
33:12
It makes me most happy. So I need to figure out how I
33:15
can do this more. So ultimately, you know like
33:18
because I was still pretty young there, I didn't even have kids
33:20
yet, I had kids. So that kind of slowed the
33:22
progress a little bit. But eventually in 2012, I was
33:25
able to attend my first game. The RG3 year was, you know,
33:28
obviously that was same type of energy and electricity was
33:31
brought. And my first time at FedEx 2012,
33:35
I thought it's it's the reason to this day I love FedEx.
33:38
It was my first exciting experience RFK, that's why I
33:42
love this team the way I do. I've only seen through the lens
33:45
of losing. And in the in the sphere of
33:50
being at the games, that's all I've ever witnessed.
33:53
I'm old enough to visually see what happened in the glory
33:57
years, but during that era I did not watch them on.
34:01
They were only on where I lived when it was a nationally
34:05
televised football game, which was four or five, six times a
34:08
year. Otherwise, I'm sitting at home
34:11
watching the Vikings play. And waiting for the ticker to
34:14
come across because back then it didn't scroll 24/7 like it does
34:17
now. You're waiting for that 15
34:19
minute update so I can get the score of the Redskins game.
34:22
And that's how I grew up. Watching the Redskins
34:24
highlights, ESPN reading the newspaper, that's that.
34:28
That's how it all started. And I think that's why my
34:31
perspective is much different with the current situation and
34:35
why I was able to make it through the Snyder era with so
34:38
much positivity because I came into it late.
34:42
As far as being in that atmosphere in that community, I
34:48
was late coming into it not with the fandom, but with being
34:52
immersed amongst the people. So do you think that you also it
34:57
helped being in an away market? Because here we hear it day
35:02
after day, hour after hour. He's listening to the same
35:05
shows. You might not live here, but
35:07
you're streaming the fan and listening to the shows.
35:10
But I think it's different still living out of town versus being
35:15
here and seeing it. I mean, you can hear about it,
35:17
but to see it, it's a little different, right?
35:20
It is different. But what's changed is when these
35:23
podcasts have started and when these radio shows are now
35:26
streamed through the podcast systems.
35:28
No, I I didn't know who Kevin Sheehan was until seven years
35:32
ago, when I first picked up his pot, and he's my favorite person
35:36
to listen to. But he's.
35:39
Relatively new to me compared to to you guys.
35:43
I had no way of listening to these shows like you said.
35:46
So I think when you look at some of the negativity that's that
35:49
comes about in the maybe in the local community, it's because it
35:53
resonated through talk radio, through the newspaper that I did
35:57
not get as I was growing up. I I certainly get it now, but
36:02
in, you know, even in my opinion, I think everybody's
36:04
pretty pretty level headed with them.
36:08
You know, at least the people I listen to, so yeah.
36:11
Yeah, I would. I would say so.
36:12
I think part of it is living here rally and I specifically
36:18
get crap or got crap because we wore gear because we went to
36:23
games. We would walk around the grocery
36:26
store and I would have somebody ask me what I what they should
36:29
make for their wife for dinner because they see me on TV.
36:32
And then after I help them, they say, oh and by the way, how can
36:36
you support that ass one? How can you support Dan Snyder?
36:39
And I loved what Antonio Gibson said.
36:41
And today I talked to him at camp.
36:43
He was playing catch with the fans in the stands along the
36:46
sideline. That has never happened.
36:48
I was at every day at camp last year, that has never happened.
36:51
B Rob running up the sideline, high fiving everyone, Just the
36:54
energy. Everyone just feels better.
36:56
And yesterday during his press conference, Wednesday's press
36:59
conference, you guys haven't listened to it of Antonio
37:01
Gibson. He talked about how he would
37:04
post something on social media. And fans would just reply
37:07
arbitrarily with sell the team. I'm never coming back until he's
37:11
gone this and that and just that negativity draws you down.
37:15
So when Rally and I are walking around town, I'm walking in a
37:17
grocery store, we're hanging out of the brewery and just doing
37:21
what we do. Being you, just being you here
37:24
locally. We will get crap for it.
37:26
I literally sent an emotional text to who was it?
37:31
Who the Hell's our team president Jason saying Jason,
37:34
when the time is right. Please thank them for rescuing
37:38
this fan base, giving us our team back and just making us
37:45
feel safe walking around again. I have had people threaten me
37:50
just because I'm a fan of this team, walking down the street
37:53
throwing stuff and I know that stuff that you're not going to
37:56
see and really experience unless you're in enemy territory and
37:59
you're going to an Eagles game because.
38:01
Much like you, I will wear my gear to an Eagles game I'm
38:03
playing there. I don't care.
38:04
I'm sure you do too. But that is all gone now and
38:09
being in the stands today, you drove here 8 hours to watch a
38:15
glorified excuse of a practice they had.
38:18
They didn't even have shells on, they just had a jersey on and
38:21
shorts and a helmet. But why did you do that?
38:26
For what I kind of hit on earlier for the community
38:28
because I get to see you guys. Yeah, I get to see all the other
38:32
fans that came out today. I get to see so many people that
38:34
I don't normally get to see. I get to meet new people that I
38:37
interact with on social media. That becomes a community for me.
38:41
It becomes family. I mean some of my closest
38:44
friends I've met through this community.
38:47
And you know even beyond that you I I get to talk to a lot of
38:51
the people that I listen to on podcast.
38:53
You know when you're looking at some of the media people and
38:55
they're so generous with their time and they they talk to you.
38:58
I I got to talk to Bram today for the first I've never I've
39:00
spoken to Bram one other time but he took time out two
39:04
different times. Sorry two different times today
39:06
to just talk ball with me and you don't get that I I I that
39:11
camaraderie. Means a lot to me.
39:13
You know you grew up playing sports and you lose that most of
39:16
us and we don't play past high school and you you kind of lose
39:20
that. And to me that's that's a big
39:22
part of my life and that's a big reason why I came here is just
39:24
to be it. It wasn't.
39:25
I don't get anything out of the practice.
39:26
I only know what I'm watching half the time.
39:29
You know, I try to isolate a guy or two.
39:32
But the truth be told, I these guys, we all have opinions for
39:37
sure. But I when I watch Sam Howell,
39:40
I'm seeing it through a different lens than Eric.
39:42
The enemy is. So you got to be careful, like
39:44
what you're seeing and what you're suggesting and what your
39:47
opinions might be, because you don't know what's really what,
39:50
what's what's really happening. So for me, it's not so much
39:54
seeing the team, although that's an awesome thing.
39:56
That's an awesome perk while I'm here is to be able to watch them
39:59
practice. Get to see him up close and
40:01
personal. And I'm not like really the
40:02
autograph guy, but just to be there and see these guys,
40:04
they're real people. See how they interact with the
40:07
kids. Terry Mclaurin, absolutely
40:08
amazing, by the way, as was other people.
40:11
Cody Barton, I don't know if you guys noticed him sat or stood
40:16
over there and signed autographs probably for 30 minutes after
40:18
practice and it was well beyond just autographs.
40:21
He was engaging the kids and that's that's what it's about
40:24
kids and trying to get that next generation that we've lost.
40:27
Because we've lost a generation through all this dysfunction and
40:30
losing at least one. Yeah, I'm working on two and we
40:33
need these kids. And it was, Oh my God, I was
40:35
standing on the sidelines after practice was over and Terry was
40:39
over heading towards the towards the exit and had stopped to do
40:43
autographs. And these two kids is that we're
40:45
probably five or six years old. Oh my God, Terry Mclaurin's over
40:49
there. He's signing on.
40:50
Let's go. I mean, they were.
40:52
That's what made me a fan as a kid.
40:54
So hopefully players like John Allen and Terry Mclaurin, like
40:58
those types of players, those culture guys that we have on the
41:01
team now are going to feed what we've been missing for a long
41:06
time and then we add this new ownership group.
41:08
It's it's all a culture that's going to hopefully propel us
41:11
into the next generation and we all can come together and get
41:16
along and yeah, get along and root for the same team and
41:22
understand we're all on the same team.
41:24
Even if we might have a different opinion on the team,
41:26
on the name or the direction of the organization, let's just
41:30
let's just enjoy the ride, right?
41:32
And I I sent out a tweet this morning.
41:34
I was at a red light car was stopped.
41:36
It was in park. But I I want to send it out.
41:38
It's like it's it was 555 in the morning.
41:43
Today felt like and tell me if you agree, but it felt like the
41:45
first day of school. I'm driving myself to school at
41:50
this point, but I'm driving myself out to Ashburn and I
41:52
can't wait to be back out there with my classmates, my fellow
41:58
fans, because we have all been apart from each other during
42:02
summer break or the offseason. And it felt like that first day
42:05
of school where you get to hang out and.
42:08
Yes, it's school, but there's nothing but fun.
42:10
Yes, we're sitting out in 90 degree heat.
42:12
We're not actually doing anything, we're just standing
42:15
around. But we were just around each
42:17
other and that's all that mattered today.
42:20
And to me, that's what the season is going to feel like.
42:25
They will eventually get back to winning.
42:27
They will eventually make us crowd on the field, but we can
42:31
all now come back together as a fan base and heal from what
42:35
we've been through. And then enjoy the fact that you
42:40
and you and other people that were here have been here through
42:43
thick and thin. And from my standpoint, welcome
42:47
back. Those that left rally still on
42:49
the fence about that. It's just, it's exciting.
42:55
It's a new day. It's a new era in the energy.
42:59
I haven't felt this energy from this fan base.
43:05
I won't say ever. Been to 20 years of training
43:09
care. I didn't go to the Super Bowls
43:11
because I was too young and my family didn't have money.
43:14
We didn't have seats at RFK because we were on the wait
43:16
list. But I haven't missed a home game
43:20
at FedEx Field since it opened. And I have not felt this energy,
43:25
just positive energy. And I'd say 2012, but 2012, we
43:30
still we had to win all those games to actually get in.
43:34
We. Lost how many games in a row and
43:36
they're basically punting the season at that point and then
43:39
all of a sudden we turned it around.
43:40
Turned it around. But this positivity right now,
43:43
we always went off the field. We're winning off the field
43:45
right now. But there's something different
43:47
in that agree completely. We're winning off the field, but
43:53
the positivity is different and that's the shift that I see and
43:58
and something to echo what you said, going to the grocery
44:01
store, I had a I went to Wawa yesterday and a guy says.
44:05
I I know I've seen you you you're the guy and I and I said
44:10
I said well thanks man. I appreciate it that the mere
44:12
because I had on the commander's tshirt.
44:14
Shocker. The fact is people are getting
44:18
behind buying the gear. They're getting behind the
44:22
positiveness, positivity and the positiveness that that this fan
44:27
base and the ownership has brought.
44:30
I love it, man. And if you guys can see.
44:33
I love this shirt that you have on.
44:35
He's got a Sean Taylor 2004 2007 shirt on and that speaks
44:40
volumes, man. I love that shirt.
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I really do. Yeah.
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Love it too. I wish that they would sell that
44:45
out in the team store. I was telling them and talking
44:47
to some executives when I was leaving.
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It's like put the stuff in there.
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You know this stuff, a portion of it supposed to go towards his
44:55
family from the charitable foundation.
44:56
But you know, it reminded me of I was in the the Winter Classic.
45:02
I organized the fan travel when the Capitals played the Penguins
45:05
in Pittsburgh and the Caps beat the Pens.
45:08
It was a long ass day and then the Redskins then played the
45:12
Giants that next morning, so we had to drive home from
45:16
Pittsburgh so I could just get to the stadium that morning.
45:18
We're walking to the concourse hanging out and we're all
45:22
arguing with each other as fans. Someone yelled and screamed out
45:26
F the Flyers. Not as we're playing, but we
45:29
could all agree on that. And then we all just kind of
45:33
came together and it reminded me of that Burgundy and Soul party.
45:36
And I'm sure we're talking early beginning of the show.
45:38
It killed me not to be there. I'm sure it drove you crazy not
45:42
to be a part of it and seeing everything on social media.
45:45
But we can all agree that Dan is gone.
45:49
It is a new era here in Washington.
45:51
This fan base is rejuvenated. The sleeping giant has awoken
45:55
and this fan base is ready. We just need those 53 guys on
45:59
the field and those coaches to step up because we're right
46:03
behind. Definitely.
46:06
Yeah. I mean, it's completely well
46:07
said. And for me, like the new
46:10
ownership group is what gets me more excited than anything
46:13
because I think we, I tweet this a lot and I say this a lot is we
46:17
change. Just getting rid of Dan had to
46:20
happen that was that was going to be an addition by subtraction
46:24
that alone. But when you bring in a quality
46:27
group that that that is large but made by design.
46:32
These are smart businessmen experienced great with the
46:37
community, great with revamping businesses, with growing
46:42
businesses, with turning around businesses.
46:44
These guys, Magic, Mitchell, Josh, they all bring something
46:52
different and they all share the same vision and they are going
46:56
to work together to give us the best possible product.
46:59
And it's going to start by bringing in the best possible
47:01
people and we'd have to trust them.
47:04
We have to learn to trust and that's really hard when you've
47:06
gone through a bad relationship, is to learn how to trust again,
47:09
right? We have to learn how to be trust
47:11
and be patient. A reporter asked me from WTOP
47:14
what is the most that I expect and I said I just want them to
47:18
be honest. Just be honest.
47:20
If you can't do it, say you can't do it.
47:22
Don't smoke up our butts. Be honest with the fan base and
47:26
after you're honest with us, give us a reason or what you
47:30
want to try to do to fix it. Honesty, as they always say, is
47:34
the best policy. Tim, thank you for showing up,
47:37
man. We really appreciate it, man.
47:38
It's an honor to be here with you 2 fellas.
47:41
I appreciate you having me on. Yeah, I mean, we see you at the
47:43
games, but I'm busy. Don't get a chance to really
47:46
talk and hang out, so it's great.
47:49
One last question for you. Will you be at Opening day?
47:52
Oh, come on now. Come on now.
47:56
I. Got to ask.
47:57
I'm there, I'm there. I would not miss that.
47:59
If I couldn't get a ticket for some reason, I'd be in the
48:01
parking lot, I'd be at Ted's tailgate and we're going to have
48:04
a good old time. There's a reason you can't get a
48:06
ticket. I got four.
48:07
Yeah, one has always got your name.
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I appreciate that. Love you.
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We'll see you in a few weeks. Definitely.
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We'll see you.