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Bonus: Athletics LLC S3 E49 'Best NON-CHAMPIONSHIP meet' March 24, 2023 · The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast

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  The athletic. And it is weak kabillion, and it
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  definitely think we're all here. We're all here.
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  you know, I think this might be Your room behind.
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  You looks messy, sir. I'm just kidding.
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  It's a joke. It's a joke.
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  Don't be fooled by the background.
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  Governor, with your very clean background.
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  How are you this evening, sir? Is that the Riverwalk more like
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  a piece of the Riverwalk? I think that's the museum.
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  The museum that's downtown by the by the Riverwalk and what
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  the name is but Yeah, just just recovering from hosting or only
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  in only outdoor me, 45 degrees pouring rain.
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  It was very Drake, Relays ask you, you know, we got it, we got
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  a chance to see who the tough guys are on our team.
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  But yeah, we made it through everybody's healthy and we can
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  now move on first day of spring was yesterday.
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  Was it really? Yeah, was so in true fashion,
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  who is starting today but it was yesterday.
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  Yeah, exactly, exactly. Mai-chan line tells me it was
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  today yesterday. Yeah, welcome to Texas.
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  Oh my gosh. So lucious.
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  How are you this evening, ma'am? I'm doing well.
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  I am going to help the governor out here.
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  You found out who your tough guys and girls were.
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  Yes. Yes, yes, absolutely,
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  absolutely. I'm just saying, you gotta Gotta
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  Give the ladies, a shout-out to you.
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  Don't get yourself in trouble. It's very true, very true.
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  How very director of you, I'm not a director of anything.
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  I need a celery bumping title next year.
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  Next year solution is going to be called the prime minister of
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  track and field, right? So they can they can pay him 11
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  more sense. That's right.
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  Oh my gosh. Yeah, I am good.
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  We are getting ready to go back on the road and head to San
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  Diego. This weekend for a few
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  competitions. We were at Stanford last week
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  car. And classic was a solid opener.
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  So everybody's healthy. That's all you can ask for
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  absolutely take invite every what you want to be Love it,
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  love it. Well, heading into our topics as
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  a kind of question. I have a question.
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  How are you big leak? I'm good at convincing enough.
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  Anybody else have a problem that is that is akin to asking any
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  female. Yeah.
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  Are you hungry? No.
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  No, I'm good. Hey Governor, this is twice.
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  Right now, he is waiting in these Waters.
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  Isn't he watched the show? Really funny?
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  Is it not? Oh no.
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  So how you guys ever, like, just go right to meet the next week.
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  God bless you. Well, and then, they should be
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  wants to Remind You by telling you, sending you your bill.
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  Now, I got that yesterday, and I was like, oh yeah, right.
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  All right, well, after our fun episode with mr.
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  Daniel Bryan. Last week we have lots of
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  comments and lots of things. So we wanted to talk about, you
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  know, The Good, the Bad and the Ugly of TV coverage for track
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  and field and kind of what our thoughts were about it.
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  So I'm posing that question to you all and you know what do we
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  like and what needs to get better at who I should have made
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  that face when I said that let me fix that.
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  We talked about this before disrespectful that we have to
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  pay to watch track and field competitions, right?
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  Is the NCAA championships in. You have to pay to watch the
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  NCAA championships. You have to pay to watch the
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  final four. You have to pay to watch the,
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  you know, the world, see what's baseball.
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  Baseball deal, right? No.
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  So then the day like, it's just it's Troublesome for me that,
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  you know, one we're forcing the public to pay for something.
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  So then the people that pay our only goal, I'll be like the Avid
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  fans, right? So you don't you're going to get
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  new fans by making people pay. That's that's why I want to
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  start. It's like that's the best ugly
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  part of it that in the fact that when they do this in the
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  announcers are always as educated as, I think they should
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  be move on what's going on around them.
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  Okay. So so he jumped in and stole my
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  Going to say, if you're not ready, I will take the Baton and
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  go from there. You know you look I'll be honest
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  as harsh as that sound that you were kind.
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  When you said that they're not as educated as we think they
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  should because I think it's worse.
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  I think they are educated but they just don't do their
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  homework. And so I don't ever want to
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  publicly call somebody lazy, but I'll just say like what you just
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  did some yes some you can infer. It sure some of Some of the of
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  the information that is readily available to them, that could
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  make a mediocre filler become a great filler.
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  Just will require like five more minutes of conversation prior,
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  you know, just ask a few more questions figure out where Saint
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  Lucia is as opposed to Jamaica. Oh, you know, just stuff like
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  that. Oh, boy.
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  But besides that, you see it. But he's right.
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  So how do we find out five minutes?
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  Ask your he crosses, the finish line that Kyle Garland, missed
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  the world record. Forget the NCAA Championship, he
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  missed the world record by less than a second.
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  It was almost as if they were surprised to find out and that's
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  my issue. I go right in with you on the
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  ugly because that shouldn't happen right and see him and I'm
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  gonna tell you this see I disagree we can't call people
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  educated who don't study. I mean yeah yeah yeah that means
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  kind of what it what do you call that an oxymoron?
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  Yeah, I don't know how to use words like you do, but it did
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  this day, almost say to you, is that okay?
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  So We had, in my opinion, I'm biased the most exciting sport
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  on the planet, right? It's an absolute, the ring ring
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  circus, and when it's at the Championships, there's no sport
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  that created the excitement and constant momentum.
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  They could go on the track, right?
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  But we think we just don't, we never capture it.
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  No, we never put it on a forum where we can see it and it can
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  be. I mean for those of us who had
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  that were fortunate enough to be in that building.
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  What you watch the coverage. You saw had nothing.
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  What was going on in that building?
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  Yeah, it was especially the women.
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  The women's week was out of control.
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  Oh my God, they missed the boat on all the field events all the
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  time. Yes, no.
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  So when you have a condensed schedule, where you have a
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  separate men's in a separate woman's meat and you've got
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  essentially, two to three hours of action that never stops.
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  As as someone that's commentating, you have to be one
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  step ahead. And if you understand what's
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  going on underneath the surface and you paint, that picture and
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  things start to materialize, you of little, you can literally
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  paint the picture as you go. And you can literally set the
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  stage like, How many times have even watching the NCAA
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  championships and not knowing who the, the particular Czar who
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  is in it, what happens? If this happens, what happens if
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  a team X gets third, what happens, if team X, and it's
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  literally two days. So it's two days where you just
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  building up to this. Crescendo and you have to do
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  your homework, Mark, like these are things that the public wants
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  to know, right? Like so that's the only things
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  that like that I think is, are severely missed, but the little
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  details man, like the little things mean a lot because things
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  will just go right over your head and you won't even realize
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  it. So here's You know me, I don't I
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  don't really like excuses. Right now, we only thing doesn't
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  rock with me to do it. So, so here's here's the thing,
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  they call it what you want. I'm gonna call it laziness.
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  And it's not every track and field commentator, but I do
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  think it is the majority. And it's across all the
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  networks, right? But from an NCAA perspective,
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  it's so I'm in the building. I'm standing near Cape near the
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  governor for most of them. So we got the same two hour time
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  window that the TV hats, right? If me and the governor I know
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  enough about our sport that we can tell interesting stories
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  about the athletes on the track in between the events and make,
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  you know, outrageous predictions and tell the context of.
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  Yeah. But you know what, you know
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  whether you think Russell's going to win or whether you
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  think new just going to win is everybody understanding that
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  like you could see a world record its own, it's only 768
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  and they ran this. Like if we can do that in real
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  time, then people who are getting paid to comment on the
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  event could do that in real time.
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  Every time I go home and watch one of these broadcasts.
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  It feels very reactionary. Some exaction.
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  It's like they're watching the track meet.
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  Do the rest are sitting there watching it.
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  Like my mom. Watches it.
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  Yes. Yes.
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  Like oh, that was really fast. What's the girl's name?
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  What's cooler. Oh, like that.
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  I got a better take on it even to the point of.
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  Okay. So we talked about being
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  educated. They some of them spend on an
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  enormous amount of time, trying to sound educated.
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  Okay. These are terms that should
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  never be used by announcer Drive phase Reaction Time.
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  Frontside mechanics. That's not mechanics.
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  Bit Trail leg. It lead lap, right?
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  Good. That's me.
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  Arm badly armed because you really don't know.
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  And that's you saying that you want to take away all the words
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  that they use. No.
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  No. But that, but that's the point,
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  right? Instead of, I agree, instead of
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  the race happening and then, while the replays going on
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  person X is trying to explain to the audience what this technical
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  thing looks like her supposed to look like, shut the hell up.
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  And tell the story about the kid.
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  Tell me that. Give me some context about how
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  the Rivalry has. Built all year because they lost
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  this race two weeks ago. But yeah, that yeah, I don't
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  need you to tell me what you think, John Smith told you in a
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  conversation one time about the drive phase.
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  So here's a, here's the crazy part going.
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  We're going in on the bad, right?
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  Since we're going in the bed. Let me just let me drop one
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  final bad mic and then we can move to goods and uglies or
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  whatever. We we are the only Collegiate
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  sport That is guaranteed that to either b or have opportunities
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  at being better than anything that's ever happened on the
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  globe, right? No matter who you watch, play
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  college football, you don't watch the college-football game
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  or college football performance and compare that immediately in
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  a positive fashion to what happens in the Super Bowl at the
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  NFL, right? Same, same in basketball, same
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  in every other sport, but Jasmin more is the best American
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  female, triple, jumper ever, right?
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  Um. Oh yeah, boy, ever.
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  They can't give her a ride or just 157, baby, almost broke a
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  world record and we've been at. We've been at that meat where
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  world records were broken. There was a world best run by
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  Arkansas, right? These are better than anything
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  done on the pro level. So you got the grill, like,
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  literally somebody handed you, the Hope Diamond, and you busy
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  talking about us, a nice, big rock.
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  Like they like they have the best product ever to pontificate
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  about. About.
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  And they always trying to simplify it for the Layman.
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  Listen, Layman are not paying to watch these track meets.
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  This is true. The reason if it's example to
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  enter into that point like they don't, they're not not the
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  simplify you don't simplify anything by talking about a
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  drive phase because first of all, let's be clear and to my
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  knowledge there's only really two people who know what that
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  really means coaches. Has John and Trevor because
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  everybody else just guessing it right, they are just telling you
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  the number of people, okay? The number of people who use
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  that turn that have no clue what it means, is amazing to me.
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  And I am using that phrase that just use it because they've
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  heard somebody say it, but you stole okay.
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  Like you get so caught up in. Let's just use Terrence Jones,
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  right? The big, the better story for
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  that was the fact that the guy that's the first time he's been
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  able Get to the meat and do his job, right?
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  So let's talk about that. Tells that story don't tell me
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  that his Drive sales with this because he didn't have a drive.
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  They don't sell this face. So let's stop right there,
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  right? I mean that that that right
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  there is an excellent example as the audience member I am much
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  more interested. If I'm learning from the
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  commentators that this particular athlete has been
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  running fast for a really long time, but in these moments
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  doesn't come through and then oops.
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  He Comes through. Now I'm way more interested in
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  his championship, he just one right now with something else.
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  I am not bashing Dwight stones but it would be nice to hear
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  somebody talk about talitha and not remind us.
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  That Joe Adam made the Olympic team eight times.
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  But you know what? That's my mother
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  was. But but the point is that if you
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  keep regurgitating the same people for a tradition sake, Old
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  people tell old stories because that's the stuff.
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  They remember the best. Okay.
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  So that's a great segue into the good, right?
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  And I'm going to say this bringing John and important.
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  Before you do that, John, John Anderson bouldin are and me
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  worthy, track and field commentators.
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  Yes, They are Emmy worthy. They're better than anything
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  else that's out there, that's on.
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  That's on this continent. So I'm going to go back on my
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  soapbox. I don't know what the drive
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  phase is. He never uses me.
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  That's a fact. And with, and we're and you
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  know, every Network kind of does it a little different as Dan was
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  trying to, you know, get into. But but when Otto is allowed
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  time to To pontificate mhm. Very rarely spends time
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  pontificating on that nonsense. You tries to get stories in, he
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  tries to give context. Yep.
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  John Anderson. We all know takes time to look
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  into backgrounds and find interesting things to discuss in
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  his role. Now he's not the color guy,
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  right? He's not moving play-by-play.
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  When when Tiana had her opportunities to work with for
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  NBC. Tiana knows what she knows.
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  Right when they told her that she had to cover a segment or
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  two about throws. I watched this child kill
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  herself for two days, trying to figure out backgrounds and marks
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  and context to the contest that she was about to have to speak
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  on. She wasn't about to step out
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  there and try to tell anybody about the technique of throwing.
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  But she could tell an interesting story about why this
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  person and this person or Rivals and what that means.
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  Means to them, right? Virtues Of Glide versus spin.
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  Nobody knows. Nobody cares.
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  The throws coaches. Do you know what I mean?
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  Like, that's the worst thing. You're trying to play you.
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  You know, I'm listening to I do, I think he might have been
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  commentating. The might have been the world's
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  last year. Well, it's maybe those are
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  trials or something. But he commented on the fact
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  that he was ensured that Grant was over his lost at the Olympic
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  Games. Mmm.
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  Wow. You step the stage rocking it.
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  The stage is that what now the audience is like, man.
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  Like what happened? What can you get over the hump,
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  right. That if you set the stage well
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  enough, It elevates Whatever the result is zactly.
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  Yes, it does. Yeah, I mean like I remember
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  that I remember watching that when I came back from world and
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  that was brilliant because Grant one.
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  So there's a moment there where you should connect to that.
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  At. But what if he lost?
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  Either way, I'm more intrigued because I do told me or reminded
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  me of what happened and the context behind it.
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  Like that's you know, that's a pretty good at that.
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  The Brits the Brits are great at home all day.
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  So that's the thing, right? Like I think that I think that's
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  why we all get so frustrated the good.
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  I think we would all agree is we have some really good
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  commentators, but it becomes bad because we surround them
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  sometimes with people who won't do all the work and and then and
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  then the worst part is, it's not even them.
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  It's the way that track meets are produced in this country.
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  It's somebody decided a long time ago that all field events
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  need to be cans and we're going to give you a screen or canned
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  and we're going to give you like the leaders jump or in best case
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  scenario what we get into Double A's.
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  We get third second and first, although sometimes they confuse
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  that and they show us for jumps and they can't figure out who
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  was which, but what they miss the best part about feel events,
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  which is the drama of the back and forth, right?
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  The like the best part about being a field of enter is that
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  you get to respond here to what somebody else does, right?
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  They misread okay. Okay, they credit her with
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  having the five further. Jumps include history.
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  Not true. Not true.
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  They don't even mention Charisma Taylor, who lost her mind, you
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  PR by over four feet, four feet. Yeah.
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  Because clearly whoever wrote the article didn't they just
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  looked at Jasmine's marks in comparison to what the market
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  cities. Exactly.
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  Me and Christie. We're sitting there.
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  Mmm and Jasmine comes down and she does her first jump and me
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  and him. And everybody else in the little
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  area is like, it's like the NBA dunk contest.
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  We're all like, it's over. It's over, it's around.
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  But then, in the next round, Charisma, Taylor puts out a
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  jumper, like, oh, actually. Yeah, there's pressure.
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  Like, yeah, like, how do I Jessica 48 for in his prison
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  goes 4710? Jasmine says, okay, well here is
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  15 meters for you and then clear.
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  Mangos. Okay.
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  Well here's 48:10 for you. Yeah.
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  Yeah. It turned into a competition is
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  that in nobody talked about know, we was there just to the
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  issue, the issue at hand and and I've thought about this just
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  just listening to this the the back and forth.
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  When you hear about what's going on in the booth in the NFL and
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  the competition that's going on with, you know, the people that
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  are already in the booth and the folks that are now knocking on
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  the door, that is not happening in track and field.
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  Where is the new blood? Where is it?
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  Where are the younger folks that are that actually want to do it
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  that are knowledgeable about it? I think what we're seeing and
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  I've been on the inside I had myself, we have a situation
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  where it's the same producers that produce these track meets
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  and they have their favorites and there is and there is no,
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  parity whatsoever, not the same conversations happening.
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  What was that story when you get comfortable then?
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  Who cares? Because you are you are judge
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  jury executioner, right? One of the best stories of the
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  NCAA me. Was Washington.
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  Yeah, and because Washington was a lot more than the milers,
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  right? Yeah.
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  And all they talked about was the mileage.
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  Now, I'm going to defend the group of little bit the, the
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  announcers, because I think part of the problems with KS to me,
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  that what the governor just said in the fact that, like, they
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  have the same producers, and they've been told what to say,
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  right? Yeah.
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  So, I'm gonna go back to about, I think it was 2012, right?
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  We want our first national title in Twelve by Wing, the 4x4.
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  They didn't know it that they even know what they were.
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  So focused on the performances of the me.
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  They didn't realize the team score.
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  Was that type that tight, right? So everybody jumped him about
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  team scores. So every time somebody runs a
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  race, that's big because that's 10 points for Stanford or
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  Arkansas, Florida. They ate so much pump on the
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  other Focus so much on the team aspect of it, that they don't
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  recognize individual part of it. They've got to find a way to
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  like this classes. Tell the story.
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  He's that lead to those things. Yes, well, I like the don't just
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  talk about the 10 points. There is a storyline that stuff
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  done because like I said, we do it ourselves in real time.
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  Oh, I'm sure that they missed completely.
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  That would have drove drove Solutions crazy when he saw it,
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  but he would have completely appreciate it.
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  Jasmine more got snubbed for the Bowerman last year and in
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  response her and her coach got in the lab, come back and
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  brought this To us. Hmm, right.
• 28:13
  That might not even be true but man is that a great story?
• 28:16
  Absolutely. Okay.
• 28:17
  And if they were amazing, want to delve into a Jasmine, you can
• 28:20
  tell that story because that's always true, but that goes back
• 28:28
  and doing your education, right? Like you should know that the
• 28:32
  alphabet crew exist. You should know about the
• 28:36
  Bowerman snub. And if you're sitting there
• 28:39
  watching this Women's meet, you know, hey, that might happen
• 28:44
  again. Yeah, because Caitlin to he did
• 28:46
  what she did because Juju did what she did you not write.
• 28:49
  Like you could tell that instead of discussing the third heat of
• 28:53
  the 4x4 and who's running in it. Like I don't I don't care.
• 28:57
  Like just tell me that you don't mean, I gotta be much more.
• 29:02
  It's something like how many people outside of the Nerds and
• 29:09
  the true track heads? Even Even though the track has a
• 29:11
  Heisman. You know what I mean?
• 29:15
  Like, tell us that But yeah because because of his if it was
• 29:21
  a football player he got snubbed.
• 29:22
  You talk about all over here? Absolutely.
• 29:28
  He's got a chip on his shoulder. He's getting harder than he
• 29:31
  ever. Has working hard.
• 29:32
  He ever has. See all you mean, it doesn't
• 29:35
  take. I mean, just all you do is watch
• 29:39
  Jasmine prepared for the competition when she gets there.
• 29:42
  Right? She's on a mission.
• 29:44
  And as soon as she takes her shirt off, and you see how
• 29:47
  ripped her back is? Be like, oh my gosh, like this
• 29:50
  crowd has been working, right? So it's like at the end of the
• 29:53
  day like tell that story and honestly this isn't about the
• 29:56
  Bell, right? Because we did, I guess it is
• 29:59
  about the environment but although Bowerman did was no,
• 30:02
  let her know that she needed to be at her best at all times even
• 30:06
  went even though she was already on her best at all times, right?
• 30:09
  So this is like what do you think?
• 30:11
  I'm worried about it or not. I'm gonna continue to show you
• 30:13
  just how great I am. And that's what she's doing.
• 30:16
  And I think we've thrown this out in another context, but I'm
• 30:20
  here for it. And I know I've seen this in
• 30:22
  broadcast in other sports, particularly in gymnastics.
• 30:27
  If you want to tell the story of the team title, We all have a
• 30:32
  decent picture of who's really in the mix beforehand.
• 30:37
  Top 5 on both genders. My come up.
• 30:41
  Hmm. I was just about to say my cam,
• 30:43
  I come up, I want to know, I want to know what Mike Holloway
• 30:46
  was feeling after the women's 400.
• 30:49
  I don't want to hear you talk about the race.
• 30:51
  I want to see a clip and just Holloway, you know what I mean?
• 30:55
  I want to know what the Cure Nugent's coaches.
• 30:58
  Felt like when she took the title.
• 31:00
  From Masai Russell and to your, to your point.
• 31:04
  Clyde, as Sir, lucious is walking up, the back stretch.
• 31:10
  He is literally saying what he's thinking, I don't know.
• 31:14
  Sir Lucius realize took it out too fast.
• 31:17
  She just took it out too fast and that is something that is
• 31:21
  like I mean for for coaches with folks that are watching that are
• 31:27
  trying to learn, okay, how did this young lady run Fast.
• 31:31
  What happened? Like, those are things little
• 31:34
  things that you can grab and you can take that goes.
• 31:39
  Okay, so one of the best coaches in NCAA history, okay, just give
• 31:45
  you a lesson on how not to run that Championship race.
• 31:50
  Okay and that's those are things that you know, we miss, we miss
• 31:55
  Ali, harem Because we are, we know, we know it's coming, we
• 31:59
  know to what to look for but to give the the viewing public that
• 32:05
  Insight on those little things. I mean, come on now.
• 32:09
  That's I think NFL NBA, they're already there in the biggest
• 32:14
  thing that they miss the we miss out on its it.
• 32:18
  Jack like that, the whole like even the knowing public, don't
• 32:22
  know about, right? Every one of us has been in this
• 32:24
  situation. What goes on in the war?
• 32:27
  I'm up area. Yeah, yes, like, do the coaching
• 32:31
  that happens in the warm-up area on meet days.
• 32:34
  Do you know how many people don't realize that the vast
• 32:38
  majority of y'all's young people's performances?
• 32:40
  You Don't See Directly out there that you see it on the TV or
• 32:45
  you, like peek your head through a screen and then run back in
• 32:47
  and go warm. Somebody up.
• 32:49
  Like, that story is like, that would be epic.
• 32:54
  But these are, these are the things that because we care
• 32:57
  about all the nuts and the bolts and like, how awesome of a
• 33:00
  complete story that this is. And we realize that the story
• 33:03
  only gets its like, they read like our track meets.
• 33:07
  Get covered like a book jacket but you don't, we don't need to
• 33:10
  read the read the whole book. Look just read the book jacket.
• 33:13
  You get the general idea what's going on?
• 33:15
  Yeah. And it's very axe, man.
• 33:18
  I really do. Here's my proposal.
• 33:21
  So if more often are or more so if you have kids, you know what
• 33:25
  I'm talking about. But if not Peyton and Eli do
• 33:32
  their coverage of a live game, right?
• 33:35
  Phenomenal, Billet. So, nickel area live on Monday
• 33:39
  night is it's gold. Its Nickelodeon, Nickelodeon
• 33:45
  does the same and they've done. Yeah.
• 33:48
  All of it, right? So we need a version that
• 33:54
  doesn't necessarily give the coach's perspective, but like
• 33:58
  put the five of us on The screen at Pi p.
• 34:03
  With the meat going on talking about the background talking
• 34:06
  about some not necessarily the coach what they're trying to do
• 34:10
  but a tactic, you know what I mean?
• 34:12
  Like explaining what Washington was trying to do you know that
• 34:17
  type thing and that b coverage, alternate alternative coverage.
• 34:24
  Yeah. So y'all can go steal that but I
• 34:27
  just realized that it was said here, first out loud, That's
• 34:30
  right. I also I like the idea of being
• 34:35
  my okay. Can you watch a football or
• 34:40
  basketball game and 70% of time the cameras on the go, right
• 34:45
  through the Game? Stops it was like to be a head
• 34:46
  coach. Yeah, football player scores a
• 34:49
  touchdown. They watch them celebrate.
• 34:51
  They go, right? To the head coach or it's a
• 34:52
  split screen. Yeah.
• 34:54
  Right. You never know what the truth is
• 34:56
  very rarely. Do you see what the track
• 34:57
  coaches doing? Well, they probably can't find
• 35:02
  the track coach. Yeah, because because we can't
• 35:06
  get to the track. We can't walk in this way, but
• 35:16
  you can't walk back this way. Luckily, the power to be cleaned
• 35:28
  out up, but that's a whole nother issue.
• 35:30
  We don't need to get to that kind of hearing a lot of good.
• 35:33
  I'm just not hearing, no, no, no.
• 35:35
  So so so to read to revert to the good, God, it was good, John
• 35:40
  Anderson is good. The Brits are Ali nominal and
• 35:46
  and, and honestly it's because those people, you can tell that
• 35:51
  they do their homework, you could tell that they're
• 35:53
  interested in the narrative, the context, the Storytelling aspect
• 35:57
  of it. That's why they're good.
• 35:59
  We need more of that. We need to Triple that way more
• 36:04
  because the white stone was better before he was
• 36:07
  pigeon-holed into, I have to worry concerned about the team
• 36:10
  score, you know, he was much better before we date because
• 36:14
  they now that's all he talks about because that's what he's
• 36:16
  been charged to do. Yeah, right.
• 36:18
  Yeah. And why, why did we all like
• 36:21
  Robert Griffin last year? Because you told stories.
• 36:24
  Yes. Well, analogies, right?
• 36:26
  Ryan's. Get he.
• 36:28
  What I do too much. They can make the races seem
• 36:54
  interesting. Yeah just cause you ran distance
• 36:58
  well does not mean that you commentate it.
• 37:00
  Well and really all you got to do is watch any.
• 37:02
  And I mean, any meat covered by the Brits, whoever whichever one
• 37:08
  of them covers, the distance races.
• 37:09
  Listen, it could be a for 12-mile.
• 37:12
  It will sound interesting that you know why that is at least in
• 37:17
  my opinion. One the reason there's two main
• 37:20
  reasons, I love the bricks one. They are not above like calling
• 37:26
  a spade, a spade. If it said, they will really
• 37:28
  show you that it sucks and it's awesome.
• 37:31
  Yeah, right. And in the distance room,
• 37:35
  instead of like that very rarely do like what if the Brits put on
• 37:39
  a 5K race and you're going to watch it in its entirety, they
• 37:43
  all spend the entire day of the race talking about the race.
• 37:46
  They tell interesting stories about the people in the race and
• 37:50
  sometimes they get off the like you feels like Is free flowing
• 37:53
  and like, oh yeah, oh now, he's moved up to the front.
• 37:55
  Yeah, you know, they like but no them calling, people out them
• 38:00
  pointing out Shenanigans and bad moments is gold.
• 38:05
  Yeah, you know, you got all these distance people who know
• 38:09
  the truth about what I'm about to say, but it would be so
• 38:12
  awesome if they just told the truth about the DMR you know
• 38:15
  look it's each school's All-Star team.
• 38:18
  That puts together the DMR to get here.
• 38:20
  The chess matches? Whoo.
• 38:22
  Who actually shows up and runs. See that would make the DMR
• 38:25
  interesting to watch? Yeah, yeah, but instead of like
• 38:29
  look again we got the dope chart so then when you know, we know
• 38:33
  Kaitlyn to, he's not running on on NC State's DMR.
• 38:37
  But we're expecting their DMR to be top three because they were
• 38:40
  top free coming in. It's like see.
• 38:42
  But that's you sit in the audience up for failure within
• 38:45
  you take off for 24, important for 40 at 16 seconds.
• 38:50
  Exactly. Big saxophone, right?
• 38:54
  Yeah. Right.
• 38:55
  And so, and so the DMR is definitely a chest piece, right?
• 39:00
  You can cover that during like as the day is going because as
• 39:03
  people qualify in the eighth as people qualify in the mile, they
• 39:06
  may or may not be run on a DMR now.
• 39:09
  Right. And like, listen, well, so like
• 39:10
  you said, they were athletes all weekend, right?
• 39:20
  One ran that one ran what the the 8?
• 39:23
  And the other one ran the mile on the know.
• 39:24
  Do they went? Was the 12 here.
• 39:27
  It was the eighth inning, but it was, they are both on the four,
• 39:30
  by four by four. Probably the best.
• 40:12
  I would pay, I would pay the man to watch that because he could
• 40:16
  be because it's an absolute Clinic.
• 40:19
  You're talking about starts and everything.
• 40:22
  All the stuff you want to hear we talking about.
• 40:24
  Well. Okay so we all saw for instance
• 40:27
  like I mean I sent you since you guys the the video of of the 400
• 40:34
  by 400 hurdles final the world record.
• 40:38
  Okay. I mean If the viewing public
• 40:41
  understood The Angst, the nerves, the, you know, even the
• 40:48
  greatest athletes, and what they're going through, right
• 40:53
  before they walk into that Stadium, it would change.
• 40:57
  I think it would change the perception altogether because
• 41:01
  you know, once the lights come on, it's time to shine right and
• 41:05
  cream, Rises to the top. We see mind-blowing things, but
• 41:09
  there's Human beings and I have I don't think that track and
• 41:14
  field coverage as yet to really show you like because the you
• 41:19
  see the humanity in the warm-up area that is that is where one
• 41:24
  more barriers, what we're missing.
• 41:25
  That is where the coaches are like.
• 41:27
  Hey, that's that's okay. We're going to be okay, we're
• 41:34
  going to be fine, right? And that's the part that's
• 41:37
  missing. I think that part is really
• 41:39
  lacking. Aking in or television coverage.
• 41:43
  Yeah, we don't, we don't get the full monty as they call know, we
• 41:46
  don't. All right, all right.
• 41:49
  I'm going to move us on because we have to we have to not get
• 41:54
  that one. We've beat that one up, pretty
• 41:56
  good. What's coming up next week and
• 42:15
  who knows what the championship.
• 42:36
  Over the span of the year, not just this week, you can try.
• 42:39
  Yes, there we go. Any given weekend. and on this
• 42:45
  continent right on this continent Collegiate or Pro
• 42:51
  Collegiate or Pro, My middle school.
• 42:54
  Hey, you usatf. I don't know.
• 43:00
  I'm gonna jump out there and I'm going to give three and you can
• 43:04
  try to hold me to 1 at the end, but I'm gonna give him.
• 43:08
  I'm gonna give them at their levels.
• 43:11
  The the best non-championship meet in the country at the high
• 43:14
  school. Level is the Arcadia
• 43:16
  Invitational. Hmm it is.
• 43:19
  It has been it will remain that way.
• 43:22
  Yes, it was history. Look at the records.
• 43:25
  Look at how they bring in, athletes from out of state to
• 43:28
  challenge the best of California.
• 43:30
  It's at the perfect time of year, they do a brilliant job.
• 43:33
  It is always packed to the gills I wouldn't.
• 43:36
  And I would like to say the Arcadia, M on my bucket list.
• 43:39
  So haven't been there yet. So gotta go.
• 43:42
  Okay, so that's the high school bro, I think it's Prefontaine
• 43:48
  It, you know, I I wanted back in the day I probably would have
• 43:53
  said the old Mount Sac, you know, the Saturday Sunday Mount
• 43:56
  Sac. Yeah.
• 43:57
  But that don't exist no more. So at the pro I'm, you know, I'm
• 44:03
  gonna say, I'm gonna say Prefontaine But the Collegiate
• 44:09
  is a, is split between two Meats at the same place.
• 44:16
  It's either the Florida relays, if you like that particular
• 44:19
  flavor or the Tom Jones meet, if you like that particular flavor.
• 44:26
  But those are the two and we are, I am not saying that
• 44:29
  because her Lucius is sitting here.
• 44:32
  Again, look at the history. Look at the last 10 years alone.
• 44:38
  Like for me it's Florida just because of all the elements that
• 44:42
  Encompass the Florida relays, you know, there's the text
• 44:45
  relays the Penn relays Drake, Relays all good relay meets but
• 44:49
  Florida also gives you the element of running all the
• 44:51
  regular events and that's why I think it's the best Collegiate
• 44:54
  meat and I'm out. Lamar.
• 45:08
  High School me that I think is a no-brainer.
• 45:12
  I definitely do think it's Arcadia and and I think if you
• 45:15
  go to Arcadia, you probably wouldn't argue that anymore.
• 45:22
  I honestly am unimpressed with all pro means in the United
• 45:26
  States and that's not it. That's not even a shot at pre
• 45:29
  pre is awesome but it's It's pre like, like, like I mean, I hate
• 45:35
  to say it like, this, every meeting Oregon is the same.
• 45:40
  Like they're all like they're all run really?
• 45:42
  Well. They're all, they're always
• 45:43
  going to be stacked with with, with athletes.
• 45:46
  They all have a certain tenor. The crowd is always going to be
• 45:49
  the same. And so in Unfortunately they
• 45:51
  kind of compete against themselves and that regard.
• 45:55
  And it's not like like I guess I'm just saying like I'm not I
• 45:59
  could miss a Prefontaine me to not care because I know the next
• 46:02
  year it'll be good for the next meet at Oregon.
• 46:04
  Be good or whatever. Right.
• 46:06
  But but it's the Collegiate meets where it's at because the
• 46:11
  only chance where you where you get it, you got a chance to see
• 46:15
  Elite level Pros Elite level collegians, who will be pros and
• 46:22
  And sometimes they go head-to-head and I love Texas
• 46:28
  relays. My only issue is that I know
• 46:30
  half of what I'm going to see is going to be when they did not
• 46:33
  count true, though it's true. We could do but you know Texas.
• 46:47
  Relays used to be better than used to be in my brain.
• 46:50
  That was a long Time ago though. Yeah, and Florida, relays used
• 46:54
  to be way better than Tom Jones that was also a long time ago.
• 47:00
  At this point Solutions has clearly chosen violence or
• 47:04
  leases meet director has and they've invited ever like the
• 47:08
  NCAA? The NCAA finals.
• 47:10
  Split up into two Meats. So half comes one week and half
• 47:14
  comes the up. Comes two weeks later or
• 47:16
  whatever it is, but Yeah. I mean, I don't want to be a
• 47:20
  homer, but in the current landscape that were in in the
• 47:24
  current landscape that we're in from a non Championship, meet
• 47:28
  perspective, if you just look at quality of marks that come out
• 47:32
  of those two Meats, it mean, it almost certainly is going to be
• 47:34
  one of those too. So give me your three again
• 47:42
  Arcadia. Three.
• 47:45
  Yeah yeah. If I went strictly Pro, I said
• 47:48
  pre Arcadia Prix and the Collegiate.
• 47:51
  I'm I'm leaning because of History, Florida.
• 47:56
  Relays over time Jones but it is making enough noise to be right.
• 48:03
  Shut up, right means look I'll say this.
• 48:07
  If you just go over the last 10 years I think it's like one of
• 48:12
  those Florida meets Texas relays in the Other Florida meet like
• 48:15
  they, it's a nice sandwich. So I'm going to go in a
• 48:21
  different direction and it's really based on my experience.
• 48:26
  So I have yet to go to Arcadia, I've heard tons about it, I
• 48:31
  mean, obviously it is a staple and it is something that I need
• 48:36
  to get over to watch. Well, here's what I will say.
• 48:40
  The California state meet, yes happened to me on a ship.
• 48:52
  But finish your thought finish it out because you're right for
• 48:57
  sure. Look I got, I got a very steep
• 49:02
  education. The last time I went to the Cal
• 49:05
  State meet, and when I found out about the road to get there, and
• 49:11
  the fact that there is no one Amy to Amy 3, a 4, a 5 a, it is
• 49:17
  the best, the best in the state line up.
• 49:22
  It doesn't matter whether your school has 200 in your
• 49:25
  graduation class, or 2000. It does not matter.
• 49:30
  If you can get through that Gauntlet to get to the Kali
• 49:33
  state meet, I mean it. Yeah.
• 49:36
  So that I'm gonna move on from that so that's as far as high
• 49:43
  school meets. The best that I've seen with my
• 49:47
  eyes was Penn relays and just when you add it in the Jamaican
• 49:53
  influence and all of that, I mean it is just unreal when
• 49:57
  those when that gun goes off and you have those Should races
• 50:01
  unreal. So I'm just going to go off of
• 50:05
  that as far as Pro. When you have a, have a have a
• 50:13
  meet in the United States where these shoe company has you have
• 50:19
  no choice, you have to compete. It's one of the few times in the
• 50:25
  United States where you're going to get the best of the best
• 50:28
  lining up against each other, and it is theater every single
• 50:33
  time, like pre delivers whether it's a good or bad year, you are
• 50:38
  going to to wash. Stevie, you're going to watch
• 50:42
  that mean as far as a Collegiate, I mean, I have yet
• 50:50
  to experience the new and improved Tom Jones.
• 50:55
  Well Goodness Me Like It Is it is I would say it's probably in
• 51:04
  between the first round meat and the national meet in terms of
• 51:09
  the results that come out of that.
• 51:11
  And then you add in the pros. I mean, it's just insane when
• 51:17
  you, it's literally like you're literally doing on a Collegiate
• 51:21
  level. What pre does with the pros
• 51:24
  because the best of the best and now you have a situation where
• 51:29
  they want to be there. That adds a whole nother no
• 51:33
  one's no one's dodging, anybody and you're getting five six,
• 51:39
  seven of the top 10 teams in the country in one area in one
• 51:44
  venue. I mean please find me, find me
• 51:48
  some another meat in the United States where that actually
• 51:50
  happens. I'll wait.
• 51:56
  I mean like, I have not experienced Arcadia, and like I
• 52:00
  said, it's on my bucket list and I've experienced Penn relays and
• 52:07
  I think the files of the penguin is in the high school sections
• 52:10
  are phenomenal, but it's just not enough event for me, right?
• 52:16
  So but from experience standpoint, what I've actually
• 52:18
  seen and felt my own eyes and ears it spin because I've ever
• 52:21
  been Arcadia, but the results scream Arcadia.
• 52:24
  So I'm gonna gate right? Katie I think I mean from the
• 52:29
  professional side there's no comparison.
• 52:32
  It's Prefontaine because that's the only one real maybe other
• 52:34
  was only when we really have right.
• 52:39
  But it's not quite three, you know?
• 52:42
  Yeah. And so but I can it from the
• 52:45
  Collegiate standpoint. I mean there was a Tom obviously
• 52:47
  what it was pain relay is it was Texas related to know, Florida
• 52:51
  relays obviously made a great run at that it but Ovid really
• 52:57
  change the landscape here in Gainesville.
• 53:00
  So we don't have as many teams for Florida relays.
• 53:03
  And so now Tom Jones becomes this monster, right?
• 53:08
  So you have time still the Tom Jones meat is still three weeks
• 53:15
  away. So if you know tells and if you
• 53:18
  need airfare bus fare, you got time to get it together.
• 53:21
  Yeah, Florida, Florida State LSU.
• 53:26
  You Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, Tennessee,
• 53:32
  Alabama, Kentucky. Gay.
• 53:37
  Now we're also remember that the Empire Athletics group trains
• 53:43
  here in the State of Florida. That's Gary Evans is group.
• 53:46
  That has the alert will see if Olympic champ name in the former
• 53:48
  oh. Stephen Gardiner Jasmine.
• 53:51
  Camacho Quinn, you got Dennis Mitchell's Group which is Kenny
• 53:55
  the generic in the boys, you got Lance brahmins allows brothers
• 53:58
  and there's creating you got Raina and his crew over in
• 54:00
  Jacksonville they're all coming and we got an email today that
• 54:05
  the Morning brothers and their. So there was a French group
• 54:11
  there last year. Yeah, and I'm sure they'll be
• 54:14
  back as this year's myself. So I think that for me this year
• 54:21
  is going to be Tom Jones, right? And I feel bad because I like
• 54:30
  Tom Jones is going to be Yeah, it's not for the faint of heart.
• 54:34
  So let's put snow last year in the world Athletics.
• 54:39
  Rankings pre was number one, in u.s.
• 54:42
  Mount Sac. Was number two, Tom Jones was
• 54:44
  three Murphy classic was forth. That was the American American
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  track week. Yes.
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  Yeah. And Texas.
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  Real axis relays was five in terms of shut up.
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  Yeah. But I do want to throw this one.
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  Small secret tidbit out to for the so you real track nuts.
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  The best like the greatest compilation of high school
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  talent that severoff ever at one.
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  Track meet is not the California state, it is the southern sector
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  signals, it's the precursor. It is the precursor to the
• 55:25
  state. Meet is to Southern section
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  finals and there are more division, one track and field
• 55:32
  athletes in that track meet than any track meet in the entire
• 55:36
  country. And there's 45 to 50 percent of
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  them. Don't even get to compete in the
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  state. Yeah, yeah.
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  Many a code say going to the state meet is nice but that's
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  the meat you want to go to? Yeah, because if people that
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  will do not get they will not get out of that meeting.
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  Were going to be cleared all of your things, right?
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  That's what I mean. So want to say 100 before I get
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  myself in trouble - speaking of professional Group Training in
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  Florida, there's a decent group here in games was good.
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  Usatf might want to partner and get some money going.
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  And I'm like, why am I, why am I?
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  They are coming for free, while we paying them like this, they
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  just show up and like this is a meat where you can see 98 and 19
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  at 44 load just you just pick an event and it's going to be, you
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  know, like last year the gosh Texas Tech my 143, right?
• 57:19
  Yeah. Just crazy.
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  I expect this to meet overall this year to be the best time
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  job we've ever had. And so how do you package that
• 57:29
  and show it to the masses? I mean that that it's too too
• 57:33
  big of a meet, you know, the payflow track, right?
• 57:37
  Yeah. That's what yeah.
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  Mmm. Golly.
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  Well, I mean there's a lot there's a lot in depends on what
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  you're looking for, right? That's non-championship meet,
• 57:52
  are you looking for distance races?
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  You know we've we've all spoken to the point of like you don't
• 57:58
  need a fast distance Race fast people run fast.
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  Does it matter where they are? We've all said them but, you
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  know, sometimes it's the background.
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  Sometimes it's the build-up. Sometimes it is.
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  The commentary that goes with it.
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  Yeah, no. But if you're a dick, Since not
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  take your butt to the oxy Invitational.
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  Just one time. Wow.
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  Take yourself to the oxidase said, Occidental College.
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  Yeah. What schools oxy go watch the
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  Occidental College. I think it's Invitational the
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  oxygen for the just watch it one time and you end and you'll be
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  like I'm coming here every year. Oh my goodness.
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  That and there's like three hours of ten thousands at
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  Stanford. Go towards while watches as a
• 58:50
  distance person roof. The Distance Carnival.
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  Batman. I don't know if I would call it
• 58:58
  a carnival but I know it's called a Caro bulbs.
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  We hosted the complementary meet.
• 59:10
  That sounds good state for that distance, carnival at San
• 59:12
  Francisco State. So, anyway, you you have not
• 59:15
  lived until you've watched the 10,000 and Brussels when they
• 59:20
  bring out the Africa and start drumming.
• 59:25
  For 25 laps, although that's the Stanford invite.
• 59:29
  No, yeah, right. On a smaller 425 lat.
• 59:32
  Right. It's the American version and
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  that's what I think. They got it from the Stanford
• 59:38
  band is nutty in the most positive way.
• 59:44
  It's wild. Well, with that being said, I'm
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  sure you all for watching and listening right now.
• 59:54
  Have your own Meats to make sure that we know about.
• 59:57
  So please feel free to put them in the comments.
• 59:59
  I'm sure somebody will get a text on their phone made show
• 1:00:02
  and been, like, y'all forgot this me wasn't here for it.
• 1:00:11
  And I mean, for all of you who host these meats, don't get it
• 1:00:15
  twisted. The better, the hospitality
• 1:00:17
  tent, Better than me is so I mean let's will not everybody
• 1:00:29
  has coached a high school near he's on the tire.
• 1:00:33
  Like I guess recently needs better said, but these new high
• 1:00:37
  school meets are having meal tickets and you get to go to the
• 1:00:41
  concession stand. Have like a full-on meal.
• 1:00:44
  Hey, that's the other thing. Meet food at Arcadia, Is Elite
• 1:00:50
  factual mean, it's the last year.
• 1:00:52
  Last year there was something. We are eating and exercising.
• 1:00:55
  All kind of things. I had a burrito Mexican.
• 1:00:57
  Yeah burger I had a few things. Hmm it was the Mexican I do
• 1:01:03
  remember I was on the backside know there's an area.
• 1:01:05
  Mmm so anyways Sheesh, sheesh. Yeah, arcade.
• 1:01:13
  He's a cheat code for high school meets because if you are
• 1:01:16
  a frequent or of Arcadia then, you know, you can go and pre
• 1:01:20
  recruit and go watch the frost off me.
• 1:01:24
  Yeah. And you'll see, you'll see
• 1:01:27
  you're not doing recruiting Missouri.
• 1:01:56
  Like I can talk to him. I'm no, but you didn't see that
• 1:02:01
  part. It said pre use it pre
• 1:02:04
  recruiting. Use the word that's recruiting.
• 1:02:10
  Look right buddy. All right.
• 1:02:19
  So, would you rather? Would you rather would you
• 1:02:21
  rather mr. Huffington, you are on with
• 1:02:25
  others. All right, I actually am
• 1:02:27
  surprised for once. I guess you're excited the
• 1:02:31
  cycle. See, I'm exciting you.
• 1:02:36
  Yeah, so much. So are you ready?
• 1:02:42
  I am. Would you rather be on the track
• 1:02:46
  or in the bleachers at Tom Jones this year?
• 1:02:55
  On the track as he's got. The back stretch so I can watch
• 1:03:26
  the warm-up Shenanigans as well as the meat.
• 1:03:31
  All right, so speaking of meat snacks, would you rather eat
• 1:03:35
  peanut butter and crackers or apples with peanut butter?
• 1:03:45
  Probably apples. And peanut butter.
• 1:03:47
  That is an elite snack. Yes, out the jar.
• 1:03:52
  It is is an elite snack. Alright, would you rather?
• 1:04:01
  Tie your shoes or it's just slip on your shoes.
• 1:04:08
  Okay, so I don't ever tie my shoes but I wear.
• 1:04:12
  I wear tied shoes. Just not tied.
• 1:04:17
  I don't do slip on shoes but I don't, I my shoes.
• 1:04:22
  Well says, I don't wear something.
• 1:04:26
  I don't wear slip on shoes at all.
• 1:04:27
  I wear laced-up shoes. They just aren't tied.
• 1:04:30
  Hmm. Okay, anybody else on the show
• 1:04:36
  for you? You ask him that question.
• 1:04:38
  So it's there if you know, then you know, if you were and you
• 1:04:43
  understand. I understand, I understand, I
• 1:04:45
  understand, I understand as well, but big-league you have to
• 1:04:49
  eat Anybody wearing a slip ons, exactly.
• 1:04:56
  Oh my gosh. Y'all are going to break your
• 1:04:58
  ankles and have been effectually if I tie my shoes.
• 1:05:20
  It's because I'm about to get into some activities.
• 1:05:23
  I might be I'm about to hoop. I'm about to go check Chase
• 1:05:26
  somebody down. I'm about to do some mock if I'm
• 1:05:29
  not about to do something. I'm just chilling.
• 1:05:31
  I will not be tying my shoes. Oh my gosh.
• 1:05:36
  Would you rather? Play Pickleball or go ax
• 1:05:41
  throwing. Oh definitely.
• 1:05:45
  I will play Pickleball in a heartbeat.
• 1:05:49
  I'm a lot of fun. Listen, I all I can think about
• 1:05:53
  what axe throwing is how it can go wrong.
• 1:06:02
  It's fun, but all I can think about is how that can go wrong.
• 1:06:08
  Excuse me. Would you rather?
• 1:06:12
  Oh, I can't do it. No, I can't do it.
• 1:06:14
  I'm leaving that one alone. Scared!
• 1:06:38
  Oh my God. Moving on.
• 1:06:40
  The floor is yours. Would you rather?
• 1:07:40
  Be the meet director of Florida relays or be the meet director
• 1:07:48
  of the new rules Mount Sac. I would much rather and I mean,
• 1:07:58
  I'll send him my resume. If this job is actually
• 1:08:00
  available, I would much rather be the meet director of Florida,
• 1:08:05
  relays /. Tom Jones, I would want nothing
• 1:08:10
  to do with the new and improved Mount Sac.
• 1:08:19
  I feel like that's that's six months of angry phone, calls and
• 1:08:22
  emails. All right.
• 1:08:30
  All experience all-expense-paid week.
• 1:08:32
  Trip to Berlin. For the World Championships or
• 1:08:40
  all-expense-paid trip to Zurich for the world championships one
• 1:08:49
  week. Tours are going to have a world
• 1:08:54
  Diamond World Championships at Zurich or World Championships in
• 1:08:59
  Berlin. Sir, sitting choice is what it
• 1:09:02
  is. If they have a world
• 1:09:04
  championship that Zurich, it will break the internet.
• 1:09:08
  It'll break the Earth. They will be meet record set
• 1:09:13
  that can't ever be approached. I will take Zurich over just
• 1:09:18
  about anyplace. Lamar does not not leave the
• 1:09:21
  question there. Why have we not seen this?
• 1:09:25
  Because I, like I said, I think it because it will.
• 1:09:27
  First of all, if you had a world championship in Zurich,
• 1:09:31
  Switzerland, there's a lot of countries that couldn't afford
• 1:09:33
  to go, right? So let's just start with that,
• 1:09:39
  but if you just look, if you look at the meat records eval
• 1:09:45
  colossae, hmm, you would think that there have been several
• 1:09:49
  Olympics and World Championships that have been Held at that
• 1:09:51
  particular venue you. So yeah you talk about bucket
• 1:09:57
  list that should be on everybody who loves track and Field's
• 1:10:00
  bucket list is to attend V class up at least once in your life.
• 1:10:08
  All right, well, I'm closing out the show with heartbeat props.
• 1:10:16
  Man, try to redeem myself from that.
• 1:10:21
  Very not. Great question.
• 1:10:26
  Can't give us as the kids would say, that would you rather was
• 1:10:31
  hella mid? I had to give it a go.
• 1:10:45
  Here might be props to my wife prior to her.
• 1:11:05
  Stress levels are through the roof. and, You know, it look at
• 1:11:13
  the end of the day, we may want to make sure that our track
• 1:11:17
  meets our good experience. Lot of course everybody here on
• 1:11:22
  this panel, knows about the amount of planning that goes
• 1:11:25
  into it with the weather and everything, the logistics,
• 1:11:30
  everything, this this weekend was very very stressful and to
• 1:11:35
  come out of that meat and to have every single team.
• 1:11:38
  Tell us that we put on a good meat.
• 1:11:41
  They enjoy the experience. Despite sub 50 degree, weather
• 1:11:46
  Kudos, kudos to my wife, getting, you know, lighting a
• 1:11:51
  fire under our kids to come out and volunteer.
• 1:11:56
  Yeah, it was, it was, I'm glad it's over.
• 1:12:01
  But yeah, the orchestrator, the facilitator that's that's that's
• 1:12:08
  my wife. Well, well said sir, I'm gonna
• 1:12:13
  go next and stay in that in that same theme.
• 1:12:15
  Um so my better half a came home with the baby this past weekend
• 1:12:22
  for spring break and tomorrow they are on their way to
• 1:12:26
  Knoxville Tennessee for her to participate.
• 1:12:29
  In the first of two Hall of Fame ceremonies Tiana's being
• 1:12:35
  inducted into the University of Tennessee athletics Hall of Fame
• 1:12:39
  rightfully Both time who, right? But she's also later in the year
• 1:12:43
  going to be inducted into the state of Tennessee's Athletics
• 1:12:47
  Hall of Fame, which is dope. So she came home for spring
• 1:12:51
  break and you know what you want?
• 1:12:53
  What do all students want to do on spring break?
• 1:12:55
  They want to do as little as possible.
• 1:12:58
  So I brought the baby boy to work with me and as much as I
• 1:13:04
  thoroughly enjoyed that day. When I tell you, I got nothing
• 1:13:07
  accomplished. I think I got absolutely nothing
• 1:13:11
  accomplished so I have no idea how that woman wrote a 35-page.
• 1:13:16
  Paper with that dude attached, whatever he want to be attached
• 1:13:21
  to. I am in awe of her focus and her
• 1:13:26
  ability to just do what she does on a daily basis.
• 1:13:30
  So Props to my better half, Miss Dianna Madison, congrats you
• 1:13:37
  deserve it all kid and you are a better human.
• 1:13:40
  I will ever be that dude ran this office.
• 1:13:45
  I couldn't get an email off with that boy around.
• 1:13:51
  Oh, I love it. I love it.
• 1:13:54
  That is truly funny. I'm just going to give a
• 1:13:58
  heartbeat props to all of the NCAA track coaches.
• 1:14:05
  You know, I don't think we realize how Masochistic wheel
• 1:14:11
  like we just never stopped. Yeah.
• 1:14:14
  And we'll climb but I realized that we had people that were in
• 1:14:19
  Albuquerque at the national championships in a very
• 1:14:23
  stressful situation in a week later, they're freezing and 50
• 1:14:26
  degree or lower, weathers critical track meet, that's
• 1:14:28
  insane Atif. So my heart beat drops go to all
• 1:14:33
  of us because we're all crazy. Oh man.
• 1:14:50
  You know, a couple of my clients have made it tough for me to
• 1:14:53
  pick one this week, but I'm actually going to pick my
• 1:15:01
  shortest client. One of one of my guys is still a
• 1:15:06
  Collegian, so I can't say his name.
• 1:15:10
  I miss his, I'm his advisor. So we're clear my butt.
• 1:15:17
  He has managed to take this opportunity to show The Scouting
• 1:15:22
  world that although he is small and he is really fast, he has
• 1:15:26
  juice as he puts it. And he is now hit five home runs
• 1:15:31
  in this short season and I don't think he had five in four years
• 1:15:35
  prior to this. He appears to be on a mission
• 1:15:40
  and I had to call his dad and ask him.
• 1:15:43
  Has he been lifting somewhere that we don't know about?
• 1:15:46
  Out and I, I would like to give my property this young, man.
• 1:15:52
  I can't say his name calling him.
• 1:15:54
  Will he hit me Turner and it's he's been a lot of fun to watch
• 1:15:59
  this year. And baseball is heating up.
• 1:16:06
  I'm getting pulled in multiple directions and I love it.
• 1:16:09
  This is the chaos that I have chosen for my wonderful life.
• 1:16:13
  You know, spring training in Florida right now.
• 1:16:15
  Chew Yes, welcome. Let's go get them.
• 1:16:24
  My heartbeat props. Go to my brother and those of
• 1:16:28
  you individuals who happen to be parents who think they can coach
• 1:16:31
  their kids, good luck. Not it's not easy.
• 1:16:37
  And my heart goes out to all of you who then realize what
• 1:16:41
  coaching actually is and how just talking demanding and
• 1:16:45
  yelling at Children to do something doesn't work.
• 1:16:50
  I I hope and pray for your patience and I hope and pray for
• 1:16:53
  you to realize that quote unquote.
• 1:16:56
  I don't want to say, quote unquote allowing for those
• 1:16:59
  individuals who can coach or are willing to coach to do, what
• 1:17:03
  they're choosing to do. Yeah, he called me.
• 1:17:07
  Like why can't I just yell at them?
• 1:17:12
  The better part was the better part was because what is
• 1:17:15
  positive? Of reinforcement.
• 1:17:17
  And why am I being told to do it?
• 1:17:21
  I said so CPS doesn't come to your door.
• 1:17:23
  How about that? Yeah.
• 1:17:31
  Completely an educational moment he is like no children.
• 1:17:51
  Someone who can interact with your child, can actually do it
• 1:17:54
  and bring them out of their shelves to perform.
• 1:17:59
  It's a big thing. So Harvey props to all the
• 1:18:01
  parents and individuals who then realize what that driver Lee
• 1:18:05
  means. So try not to be backhanded but
• 1:18:09
  it was backhanded. So with that.
• 1:18:16
  That episode was a very ping pong episode that we just
• 1:18:20
  completed. So thank you for bearing with us
• 1:18:24
  who he shot off. A lot of you guys.
• 1:18:25
  So Have a great weekend, enjoy the spring season.
• 1:18:31
  Now, that is officially here and hopefully California has been a
• 1:18:35
  little bit drier in a little bit.
• 1:18:37
  Warmer you'll be on your way to, I know, right?
• 1:18:43
  Well, everyone have a great week and we'll see you again soon.
• 1:18:46
  Bye. Wouldn't be here but we're here
• 1:19:20
  to stop raining. You gotta earn your stripes?
• 1:19:22
  Gotta keep Stars. Show you how to fight for.
• 1:19:25
  Sure. So you are you lack experience
• 1:19:27
  but still you want to jump and who is that junk to your certain
• 1:19:31
  kind of small heads prevail when the backbone strong, gotta keep
• 1:19:35
  it coming up, won't last long faster failed and sell this a
• 1:19:39
  song and if you don't check yourself and that's wrong, just
• 1:19:43
  trying to give you the rich asshole.
• 1:19:45
  So why you keep cutting us off to a small?
• 1:19:48
  We put it. It in slow-mo.
• 1:19:49
  What you fast-forward. Athletics task force.
• 1:19:48
  It in slow-mo. What you fast-forward.
• 1:19:51
  Athletics task force.