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Gordie Chiesa on the Utah Jazz and the NBA, Last night at Portland, Keyonte's scoring streak, 10 day contracts coming into play + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Peace out. Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz
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  Speaker 1: with former Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more
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  Speaker 1: about the NBA than any of us will ever know.
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  Speaker 2: Let's not get crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Come for the hoops talk. Stay for his list of
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  Speaker 1: the day My list today. Here's oc with basketball sab
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  Speaker 1: on Gordy Chiasa on the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: Sean o'call Show on ESPN seven hundred ninety two ONEFM.
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  Speaker 3: We welcome in Gordia Chiaso or Basketball Insider, brought to
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  Speaker 3: you by a lad Industries, your Utah b Luck Steeler
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  Speaker 3: Gardy Welcome again.
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  Speaker 1: How are you sark sure?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm doing fine? Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk a little Utah Jazz last night against the
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  Speaker 3: Portland Trailblazers. Interesting game, Jazz who dug themselves a big
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  Speaker 3: hole in the first half, especially with just kind of
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  Speaker 3: sloppy play, misshots, especially close to the basket around the rim.
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  Speaker 3: As you're watching that game, can you tell me why
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  Speaker 3: it was going down like that? It felt like they
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  Speaker 3: were getting good shots and just not getting them befall.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were hurried the shots. They're basically hurried in
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  Speaker 2: that game, and they basically punished shots as far as
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  Speaker 2: not following through. And add to that, they were making
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  Speaker 2: a lot of free point shots Trailblazers, So every possession
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  Speaker 2: to start the game was even more magnified versus settling down.
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  Speaker 2: Try to shoot in either individual rhythm or team harmony,
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  Speaker 2: and that's when you really scored the ball at a
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  Speaker 2: much more fluid pace. And the Trailblazers, to their credit,
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  Speaker 2: they were their aggressor and that was a big factor
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  Speaker 2: in the game. And let's not forget that the Trailblazers
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  Speaker 2: during the Jazz Division, and I feel it's chantey that
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  Speaker 2: the Jazz right now owns seven in division play. So
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  Speaker 2: visualized the NFL if you were in a division and
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  Speaker 2: you had your winless so far and division for the listeners,
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  Speaker 2: it's the Thunder, the Nuggets, the Timblewolves, and the Trailblazers,
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  Speaker 2: And so they've got to improve themselves as far as
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  Speaker 2: a winning game in the division because that's one of
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  Speaker 2: the tiebreakers someday went heading to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: Do you like the role that Isaiah Collier is playing
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  Speaker 3: right now. We talked a lot about him coming back
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  Speaker 3: and what that does for Keyante. Kyante ended up with
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  Speaker 3: with a good game again last night, below his season
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  Speaker 3: average in terms of scoring an output. But do you
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  Speaker 3: like what they're doing with Isaiah Callier, not only for
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  Speaker 3: Kyante's sake but for the entire team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very much. He's past happy your last night's game
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  Speaker 2: ten points, eight assist, but it's when he got them.
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  Speaker 2: He's a good leader. He knows how to play the position,
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  Speaker 2: and he gets players organized. Your job as a point
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  Speaker 2: guard in the NBA is to one get everybody organized
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  Speaker 2: before you make that first entry pass, whether it's on
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  Speaker 2: to wing or at the ebo. And then the second
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  Speaker 2: part of that is that you've got to be able
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  Speaker 2: to swing the ball. And the third part is that
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  Speaker 2: your the ability to make an open shot. So be
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  Speaker 2: since for decades sewing that an NBA winning point guard.
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  Speaker 2: Your world changes every twenty four seconds, and within the
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  Speaker 2: twenty four seconds, your role changes. So you go from
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  Speaker 2: distributor and a ball mover until maybe a shot maker
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  Speaker 2: went to a shot clock as far as under five seconds.
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  Speaker 2: And so it takes a lot of the mental skills
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  Speaker 2: in Isaiah Callia. He has it. I like when he
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  Speaker 2: plays in the game and they play off the ball
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  Speaker 2: Chiante George because he's more of a natural scorer, and
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  Speaker 2: it really helps the Jazz as far as scoring but
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  Speaker 2: also having more fluidity.
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  Speaker 3: I thought the broadcast team did a good job last
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  Speaker 3: night talking about the significance of the Portland Trailblazers for
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  Speaker 3: use of Nurkics and what that franchise did for nurk
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  Speaker 3: and how it affects his growth and things like that.
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  Speaker 3: When you have guys that are going back and they're
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  Speaker 3: playing against the franchise that they have a connection with,
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  Speaker 3: or they have close friends in that franchise or on
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  Speaker 3: that team or whatever, is there any difference in the
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  Speaker 3: way that a person has coached for that particular game,
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  Speaker 3: or just even the conversation you have in the locker
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  Speaker 3: room before that particular game.
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  Speaker 2: Well it was in season that year is traded, then
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  Speaker 2: absolutely talk about it that this guy's going to come
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  Speaker 2: at you right away, coming at yourself. You alert to
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  Speaker 2: try to guard him, keep up the boards, or challenge
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  Speaker 2: his shot, or if it's a defensive liability, attack them
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  Speaker 2: off to dribble. Now, as the years go on, it's
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  Speaker 2: lesser and lesser because that player now used to play
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  Speaker 2: in your team or for your franchise, but now it's
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  Speaker 2: on the other franchises organization and it's not as much
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  Speaker 2: as glaring and the emotional part of it. Usually speaking,
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  Speaker 2: when you get traded, you feel either jilted by the
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  Speaker 2: former team or by the new team. You want to
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  Speaker 2: prove to them that they made the right decision for
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  Speaker 2: trading for you. It's an interesting Phenominu.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy, you wanted to talk about short term ten day contracts.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, it started yesterday and Sean HiT's the numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Are you sitting down there at the utes right now
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  Speaker 2: getting ready for the press conference for Morgan Scalley a
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  Speaker 2: ten day contract this year? So visualize the guy that
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  Speaker 2: was in the G League but not in a two
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  Speaker 2: way contract so soon, says someone like Dylan Jones, former
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  Speaker 2: Weaver State first round draft pick, places for the ironically
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  Speaker 2: the Portland Trail Blazer's G League team, just saying that
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  Speaker 2: the ten year ten day contract is that in ten days,
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  Speaker 2: as far as so he'd be a second year player,
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  Speaker 2: he'd make one hundred and thirty one thousand dollars to
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  Speaker 2: ten days one thirty one common nine seventy. If you're
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  Speaker 2: a rookie, you make seventy three thousand. If you're a
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  Speaker 2: first year player, you make one hundred and seventeen thousand
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  Speaker 2: for ten days. Now, if you're a ten year veteran,
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  Speaker 2: the rated rules are if Sony signs, will say a
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  Speaker 2: ten year veteran who will make for the ten days
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and eight thousand dollars And so it is
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  Speaker 2: absolutely a lot of money for ten days. And usually
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  Speaker 2: speaking those guys, if you're a younger guy, they want
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  Speaker 2: to get a look at you, I mean the present team.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a mid tier veteran, they think that you
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  Speaker 2: can play in the team. They just want to see
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  Speaker 2: if you're in shape or that for those ten days,
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  Speaker 2: and they're going to try to either sign you for
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  Speaker 2: a second ten day at where the rules are you
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  Speaker 2: only sign with a parent team two consecutive ten day contracts.
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  Speaker 2: After the twenty days you have to then either be
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  Speaker 2: signed for the rest of the season are being waived. So
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  Speaker 2: it started yesterday the huge factor as far as teams, who's.
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  Speaker 3: Your favorite guy? That started on that kind of like
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  Speaker 3: very uncertain footing, but ended up making himself a real
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  Speaker 3: presence in the NBA.
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  Speaker 2: Roger Bell, he started a ten ten day contract a long,
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  Speaker 2: long time ago, and then worked his way up into
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  Speaker 2: really being a really solid jazz player, and now with
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  Speaker 2: the Phoenix Suns, he was a huge part of them
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  Speaker 2: trying to be trying to get to the Western Conference Finals.
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  Speaker 2: He became a knockdown three point shooter and really an
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  Speaker 2: all defensive player. As far as he's the second, first
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  Speaker 2: or second team, he'd be. The most classic example of
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  Speaker 2: doing it and his other players in the NBA is
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  Speaker 2: that most players in the G League, whatever reason, are
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  Speaker 2: miscast and you can make a discussion point is that
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  Speaker 2: you could change the NBA roster literally deli with guys
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  Speaker 2: in the G League, especially numbers of thirteen, fourteen to
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  Speaker 2: fifteen on your roster. And so that's what happens is
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  Speaker 2: that the ten day contracts for a lot of players
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  Speaker 2: shown are the entry level for that for that player
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  Speaker 2: to be talked about among the coaches. See a lot
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  Speaker 2: of times in the in the NBA the NFL, the
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  Speaker 2: person or people taught about the players all the time.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not the coaches because in season they're coaching
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  Speaker 2: their team. But once you're with a guy for ten days,
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  Speaker 2: you're around them more. Then you're going to say, well,
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  Speaker 2: I never knew this guy was really that fleet footed
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  Speaker 2: or this guy was a knockdown shooter, because now it's
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  Speaker 2: more visual and you can see the player that or
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  Speaker 2: add to that, this guy really is a good listening
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  Speaker 2: ability that when we say something and they and to
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  Speaker 2: walk through practice session, he listens and he gets it.
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  Speaker 2: So it's more of a combination of all the above
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  Speaker 2: that those guys might get into a game and play
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  Speaker 2: well and in a year later we'll get a stand
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  Speaker 2: in the contract.
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  Speaker 3: Gordon James is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell
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  Speaker 3: Schill Talk at All Things NBA. Uh So when you're
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  Speaker 3: when you were talking it staying on when we're talking
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  Speaker 3: about the way that people are miscast and you know,
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  Speaker 3: the vision that a particular franchise has for them or
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  Speaker 3: a particular coaching staff has for them. The solution is
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  Speaker 3: that usually found through the player, through the players agent,
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  Speaker 3: through some like I don't know, Gordy Chisa type guru
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  Speaker 3: who just has a better recognition for what the max
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  Speaker 3: potential could be. I mean, we're sitting here at Utah
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  Speaker 3: Football a press conference. That's one of the ways that
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  Speaker 3: this coaching staff has kind of made its say is
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  Speaker 3: they recruit a wide receiver, they turn them into a
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  Speaker 3: defensive end if he ends up going to the NFL
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  Speaker 3: that way, who's responsible for finding the fix for these individuals.
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  Speaker 2: The personnel people find the talent, and then the coaching
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  Speaker 2: sta brings the best out of that talent. And that's
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  Speaker 2: a combination of both, and the winning franchises consistently have
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  Speaker 2: both parties work in harmony. And you always can't agree
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  Speaker 2: on players, but the majority of the player you absolutely
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  Speaker 2: agree on and show what you're talking. Also a think
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  Speaker 2: called intangibles that everyone can see visually. A person's talent,
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  Speaker 2: quickness of serious hops, of fast twitched motion you can
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  Speaker 2: see visually. But it's the intangibles that players have. I
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  Speaker 2: just describe to the ultimate Nikolai Jokic. So someone like that,
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  Speaker 2: he wouldn't pass the athletic test of most teams, but
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  Speaker 2: for a basketball player, yes he does. And that's where
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  Speaker 2: the better organizations they get it right consistently. And so
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  Speaker 2: it's on the coach to develop the talent, but it's
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  Speaker 2: on the personnel people that bring the talent in front
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  Speaker 2: of the coaches. That's why Sean is so important. Your
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  Speaker 2: position coach in the NFL, but also in the NBA,
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  Speaker 2: the assistant coaches. They're the ones basically that drive the
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  Speaker 2: improvement of the players, which you've got to be realistic
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  Speaker 2: about a player's ability. And as far as the coach,
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  Speaker 2: besides winning, his job is to hide the players non
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  Speaker 2: strengths during the game so that the competition cannot expose
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  Speaker 2: his lack of foot speed, his lack of length, or
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  Speaker 2: if he's a wobbley shooter, get him, get him off
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  Speaker 2: the ball side and get him on the opposite side
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  Speaker 2: what becomes an ow velocity cutter. These are all things
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  Speaker 2: that are small coaching, what they do with the players.
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  Speaker 3: So a month away from the trade deadline, do you
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  Speaker 3: anticipate that this is a wild trade season or we
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  Speaker 3: end up with the status quo.
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  Speaker 2: Wild trade season. Yes, because there'll be a fire cell shoan,
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  Speaker 2: just like last year. You know, I talked about it
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  Speaker 2: on the air in depth. So HiT's some teams that
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  Speaker 2: are losing and that some of their players, especially if
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  Speaker 2: the last year of a contract, and their agent is
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  Speaker 2: a very formidable person. The agent's going to try to
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  Speaker 2: x the team of that player who is losing. Can
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  Speaker 2: you trade my client known that Sean come July first,
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  Speaker 2: which is the magical date in the NBA. That same
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  Speaker 2: agent as other clients that the losing team wants to
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  Speaker 2: have on their team to make them more successful. So
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  Speaker 2: there'll be a fire sale with the Nets, the Wizards,
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  Speaker 2: the Paces, the Kings, the Pelotans, maybe the Grizzlies, maybe
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  Speaker 2: the portent for a second, maybe Atlanta Hawks, maybe the Bucks,
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  Speaker 2: maybe the Bulls. So there'll be some players and those
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  Speaker 2: teams that will be traded between now and the trading deadline,
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  Speaker 2: which is which is our Thursday, February fifth. So it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be interesting. There'll be some trades, yes, but
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  Speaker 2: what about Jazz basketball? Any trade you think.
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  Speaker 3: You tell me? I mean, that's all Lowry's name is
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  Speaker 3: going to get thrown into a bunch of stuff. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think he's going anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: A great apple. Not pray to the I played to
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  Speaker 2: the trading guards, Please don't trade it. Because he's a
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  Speaker 2: tremendous player. You can now find anybody in the drafts.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to average twenty seven points a game, eight boards,
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  Speaker 2: knockdown three point shooter, eighty eight percent foul shooter, and
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  Speaker 2: most of all, never says the word in a positive way.
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  Speaker 2: He just plays the game, and he's wiry, tough, and
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  Speaker 2: so also he's in his prime. And the last part
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  Speaker 2: about it, like any business, what's going to cost? This
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  Speaker 2: cost certainty? You know his contract, it's a it's this
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  Speaker 2: year plus three more he finishes July first, twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: nine season. This is what's going to cost. He's very good.
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  Speaker 2: He's worth every penny as far as in the NBA,
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  Speaker 2: as far as the lexicon.
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  Speaker 3: What's your list today, Gordy?
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  Speaker 2: All right, but let's say, Sean, we've had a record
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  Speaker 2: amount of people scoring fifty points. The more so this
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  Speaker 2: season is showing eleven players already have scored fififty plus
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  Speaker 2: points in an NBA game, The most recent been Jalen Brown,
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  Speaker 2: a fifty point jam versus the Clippers on Saturday night.
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  Speaker 2: So I redid this list. This is the most Korea
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  Speaker 2: fifty point games by individual and its only regular season games,
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  Speaker 2: not players. Is a very short list fifty point games
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  Speaker 2: career wise number ten all time. Kareem abdu Jabbar he
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  Speaker 2: did it ten times, ninth all time. Alan Iverson did
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  Speaker 2: it eleven times, tied for eighth. Rick Barry and Lebron
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  Speaker 2: James eighth place. They did it fourteen times, tied for
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  Speaker 2: sixth place two guards Steph Curry and Dame Lillard. They
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  Speaker 2: both did it fifteen times fifty points of more. Fifth
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  Speaker 2: all time, elgend Baylor did it seventeen times. Number three
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  Speaker 2: tied Kobe Bryant and James Harden, who was sewn the
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  Speaker 2: only left in his list. They've done it twenty five
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  Speaker 2: times fifty points and more games. Number two all time
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  Speaker 2: is Michael Jordan, he did it thirty one times, and
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  Speaker 2: the number one player of the most aver fifty point
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  Speaker 2: games is World Chamberlain. He did it one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: eighteen times in his career, which is eighty seven more
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  Speaker 2: than a second place holder of Michael Jordan.
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  Speaker 3: Oh Man, I wish so bad Wilt Chamberlain could be
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  Speaker 3: in today's NBA, just to see how dominant that would look.
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  Speaker 2: He was scored at age fifty or so. He passed
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  Speaker 2: away at eight sixty three back in nineteen ninety nine.
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  Speaker 2: I remember the day he passed through it during it
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  Speaker 2: was during the preseason. I remember Jerry Sloan and I
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  Speaker 2: were talking about World Chamberlain because Jerry played against them,
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  Speaker 2: and Jerry's said to me that he was almost impossible
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  Speaker 2: to move out of the lane, and that when he
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  Speaker 2: ran the floor, usually speaking Jerry would try to take
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  Speaker 2: a charge on you know, players, but against World he
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  Speaker 2: was very hesitant, very hesitant, and you understand, oh absolutely
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  Speaker 2: he was again for the young listeners. And I'm truly
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  Speaker 2: when I say this, I'm pausing for effect. Is that
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  Speaker 2: he was seven foot one, twenty seventy five pounds with
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  Speaker 2: a thirty four inch waist, so his body was really
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  Speaker 2: unbelie proportionately upper body strengths. And one time he high
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  Speaker 2: jumped six eleven and sneakers without even like practicing. Six
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  Speaker 2: eleven high jumper and sneakers join old school you know,
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  Speaker 2: PF flyers, you know old school pro keads. Yeah, that's how.
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  Speaker 3: He's an alien.
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  Speaker 2: He's an alien and speaking it. But in jazz franchise aliens.
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  Speaker 2: Just quickly is that who the jazz leaders in most
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  Speaker 2: fifty point games? Just two names quickly in one current
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  Speaker 2: agent Danley did it six times fifty points and more
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  Speaker 2: and Carl Malone that is four times. Larry Marketing of
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  Speaker 2: the Jazz presently had a fifty one point masterpiece versus
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  Speaker 2: the Suns this season. On October twenty seventh, in a
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  Speaker 2: Jazz home overtime win, so Larry markin it also joins
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  Speaker 2: that group group where they're fifty fifty one points as
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  Speaker 2: far as that Navin Mitchell did it one time and
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  Speaker 2: a masterpiece and the NBA Playoff bubble back in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty yet fifty seven points in an incredible performance against
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  Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets, however, unfortunately in a losing course. Thus
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  Speaker 2: Seawan fifty points or more. It's really exclusive company, Gordie.
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  Speaker 3: It's always great catching up with you. Thanks for your
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  Speaker 3: time again today.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Sean peace Out, stay well
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