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Best Budget Shotguns of 2026...You Don't Need $2,000 To Kill Ducks · Last Stop Waterfowl Outdoors Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the marshes waking slow, got that brackish water.
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  Speaker 2: Glue on the Southern.
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  Speaker 1: Flyway run chasing that Louisiana's Sun. Last Stop water Foul Outdoors,
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  Speaker 1: Last Stop water Foul Outdoors on everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Jacob would Last Stop Waterfowl Outdoors podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hope y'all doing great today? Guys. We are back in the.
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  Speaker 3: Studio today, sitting here talking a little bit of duck
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  Speaker 3: on them with all of y'all. To be honest with y'all,
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  Speaker 3: we are getting close to the duck season. I know
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people are starting their preseason prep right now.
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  Speaker 3: Why of you guys probably have been prepping for longer
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  Speaker 3: than that if you have land and you look working
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  Speaker 3: those duck holes trying to get everything ready to.
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  Speaker 2: Go for the season.
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  Speaker 3: But now we sit here, we're in August, and we
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  Speaker 3: are really close to guys, just a little over a
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  Speaker 3: month away or right out a month from.
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  Speaker 2: Early till season.
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  Speaker 3: If you have a till season in your particular area,
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  Speaker 3: you're probably getting ready for that, pulling out the decoys,
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  Speaker 3: cleaning them up a little bit, and getting ready to
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  Speaker 3: get things going. So I know here in Louisiana, for us,
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  Speaker 3: we only have about a week or so that we
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  Speaker 3: get to hunt till as. They've lowered the amount of
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  Speaker 3: days that we have to be able to till hunt here.
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  Speaker 3: But that's fine with me. That's what we needed. That's
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  Speaker 3: what the numbers are showing for us. And you know what,
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  Speaker 3: even though we'd like to have more days for till season,
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  Speaker 3: that's what we have to work with and it's better
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  Speaker 3: than nothing. So looking forward to that. We've been busy now.
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  Speaker 3: We have been extremely busy over this summer. You guys
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  Speaker 3: that follow us on our social media platforms, you probably
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  Speaker 3: saw that we did a reveal of a new Dug
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  Speaker 3: bline project that we have been working on with a
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  Speaker 3: good friend of ours, David Lemoyne.
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  Speaker 2: He and I had got together after last season.
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  Speaker 3: We kind of had an idea to come up with
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  Speaker 3: a new Dug blind for a little piece of private property,
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  Speaker 3: uh that we have over in a VAL's parish, or
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  Speaker 3: that he has access to in a Valse parish, I
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  Speaker 3: should say, and uh kind of came up with an
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  Speaker 3: idea to build ourselves a new Doug blind. We had
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  Speaker 3: a Doug blind that was pretty nice overall when we
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  Speaker 3: decided to hunt that particular area, but we would like to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the family expanding, the kids starting to hunt
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  Speaker 3: with us a little bit more now wanting to come
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  Speaker 3: some of the wives, the girlfriends of our little hunting
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  Speaker 3: group that we hunt together. Uh, they sometimes want to
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  Speaker 3: come out now, which is awesome in my opinion. And uh,
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  Speaker 3: I know my wife Amy, she she has nothing to
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  Speaker 3: do with it. She don't want to deal with that.
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  Speaker 3: She hates the coal. So duck season me and and
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  Speaker 3: a dougline is definitely not her thing. But uh, some
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  Speaker 3: of the girlfriends, some of the wives of some of
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  Speaker 3: the guys that we hunt with, they wanted to be
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  Speaker 3: able to accommodate a couple of more people and have
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more comfortability. And to be honest with y'all,
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  Speaker 3: we're getting older, man, We getting we getting to the
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  Speaker 3: point where we want to be able to be comfortable.
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  Speaker 2: When we're out there.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, some what we realized over the last
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  Speaker 3: couple of seasons was we had to.
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  Speaker 2: Wait out these ducks a lot of times. So if we're.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna do that, we're gonna wait these birds out and
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna be out there sometimes to have a successful
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  Speaker 3: day in the blind. We wanted to be comfortable, so
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  Speaker 3: we came up with a game plan to build a
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  Speaker 3: new duck blind this season, and we launched that reveal
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  Speaker 3: on our social media platform last week, and really we
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  Speaker 3: were excited about that one man, because this is going
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  Speaker 3: to be an awesome setup.
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  Speaker 2: For our group.
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  Speaker 3: And hell, who knows if we bring a couple of guests,
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  Speaker 3: if we want to hunt with somebody this year, invite them.
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  Speaker 3: We have room for him now, and we'll be comfortable
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  Speaker 3: doing it, and everybody's just gonna enjoy it, I think
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  Speaker 3: a lot more. So, we are really excited to launch that.
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  Speaker 3: It's a floating duck blind, so we still got some work.
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  Speaker 3: We got to make sure the thing floats and floats
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  Speaker 3: correctly in a couple of weeks. Once we launched that
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  Speaker 3: thing and get it ready, hopefully we'll have it in
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  Speaker 3: and ready to go forward till season and me and
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  Speaker 3: the boys, Jackson and Hudson, we can make a couple
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  Speaker 3: of till hunts and during till season, so that's what
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  Speaker 3: we're looking forward to, and then right after that we
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  Speaker 3: head in a small game hunting in October. We also
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  Speaker 3: have a new season this year. We have whistling duck hunting,
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  Speaker 3: which is something that is gonna kick off beginning of
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  Speaker 3: October here in Louisiana as well, and that's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: interesting to see how that pans out. Is a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people gonna participate in that, I don't know, but
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  Speaker 3: I don't think the state really knows right now. There's
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  Speaker 3: a permit that we'll have to have for that to
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  Speaker 3: be able to hunt those birds this year, and it's
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  Speaker 3: a pre permit, But I think what they're doing is
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  Speaker 3: they're trying to get some feedback. We have to fill
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  Speaker 3: out a survey if you do hunt them, and and
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  Speaker 3: fill out a survey on kind of what your experience was,
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  Speaker 3: did you enjoy it, kind of what the numbers were
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  Speaker 3: that you harvested, that type of stuff. They want to
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  Speaker 3: have an idea of the participation. So when that kicks
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  Speaker 3: off in October, it's gonna be interesting. I will probably
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  Speaker 3: end up making a hunter two for that, But we
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  Speaker 3: do a lot of small game hunting in October.
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  Speaker 2: Also.
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  Speaker 3: We'd love to squore hunt, and we do quite a
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  Speaker 3: bit of squirrel hunting as well, like some of you do.
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  Speaker 3: So a lot coming up Forrestman and uh and just
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  Speaker 3: that time of year. It's just that time of year
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  Speaker 3: to get excited, you know, to be honest with y'all.
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  Speaker 3: So uh in this episode though, what I figured to
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  Speaker 3: get you guys kind of in the mood. Look as
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  Speaker 3: duck Hunters, we are geared junks. We always do a
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  Speaker 3: lot of reviews here on our channels, on our social
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  Speaker 3: media platforms. We try to be honest with y'all, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be completely honest when I
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  Speaker 3: say this right now. I'm gonna make a hot take
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  Speaker 3: right here and let you guys know what you know
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  Speaker 3: kind of my thoughts on this.
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  Speaker 2: But look, let's keep it real. Social media is.
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  Speaker 3: Full of influencers what people call themselves influencers. I don't
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  Speaker 3: consider myself an influencer by any means. I am an
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  Speaker 3: outdoorsman and I use my hard earned money to go
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  Speaker 3: out and buy products I just do, you know. And
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  Speaker 3: I am a person that enjoys good equipment. But I
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  Speaker 3: also want to have good equipment at an affordable price point,
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  Speaker 3: something that I could afford, you know, because I don't
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  Speaker 3: have just, you know, thousands and thousands of dollars to
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  Speaker 3: go through at you know, equipment every time I want
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  Speaker 3: to go buy, whether it's a piece of clothing for
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  Speaker 3: duck hunting, or it's a piece of uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: gear such as a shotgun or such as decoys, all
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  Speaker 3: that type of stuff. But I do like quality. I
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  Speaker 3: like stuff that's made well that's gonna hold up. Especially
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  Speaker 3: being a public land guy. For the majority of my
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  Speaker 3: life span, We've been rough on equipment, you know, but
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  Speaker 3: I've also taken care of my equipment at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: But my point being, nowadays, you get on social media
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  Speaker 3: and you see influences out there and they are pushing
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  Speaker 3: a product. They got a little bit of free gear
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  Speaker 3: from somebody, and they go out there and they're gonna
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  Speaker 3: tell you how great all the products are, and it's
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  Speaker 3: the next best things in sliced bread. That is not
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  Speaker 3: what I do here. That is not what I do
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  Speaker 3: on my platforms. I'm gonna I'm gonna be very honest
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  Speaker 3: with you guys, because look, I grew up. I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: raised with a silver spoon in my mouth. I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: raised with a ton of money. I was raised very
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  Speaker 3: very poor. Actually, you know, my parents did what they
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  Speaker 3: could with what they could Forrest, you know, with the
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  Speaker 3: budget that they had Forrest, and.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't give it everything.
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  Speaker 3: So I grew up in a different time where hey,
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  Speaker 3: you didn't just go out and get another piece of
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  Speaker 3: equipment because you know this one. You wanted something new
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  Speaker 3: and you wanted to dispose of something else. My point
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  Speaker 3: being is that you know, I look for value. I
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  Speaker 3: look for value in a good product. And when when
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  Speaker 3: I tell you that a piece of equipment is good,
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  Speaker 3: I'm giving you an honest review and an honest take
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  Speaker 3: on it. And we get approached by several companies that say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: they see us on social media and they say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: would you, you know, do a review, quote unquote on
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  Speaker 3: this product and you know, let your viewers know what
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  Speaker 3: you think. And I'm very upfront, and I've said this before.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very upfront with these companies. I say sure, if
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  Speaker 3: it's something that I think would be beneficial to me
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  Speaker 3: to be able to use, I'll say, sure, we'll do that.
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  Speaker 3: But this is not gonna be a you know, powder
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  Speaker 3: puff review saying how great you are. If the product's
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  Speaker 3: not great, I'm gonna be upfront, I'm gonna be honest,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna tell my viewers exactly what the product delivers.
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  Speaker 3: And some companies they really appreciate that and other companies
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  Speaker 3: they'll kind of back away from that, they say okay,
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  Speaker 3: and that tells you.
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  Speaker 2: Right there that they don't have a lot of confidence
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  Speaker 2: in their products. So, you know, with all.
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  Speaker 3: These influences out there nowadays, it seems like just because
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  Speaker 3: a lot of these people get free gear, they gonna
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  Speaker 3: tell you how great the product is.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not always the case.
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  Speaker 3: And we know that, right We've all purchased stuff from
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  Speaker 3: you know, ads that we've seen from people that told
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  Speaker 3: us it was great, and it's not always the case.
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  Speaker 3: But when they're getting free gear, a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: think that they have to be on a pro staff
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  Speaker 3: at that point and they have to promote that product.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, I'm going off on a rent.
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  Speaker 3: Right here, but it's something that I'm seeing that's a
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  Speaker 3: major part of the industry nowadays, that hey, you know
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  Speaker 3: what if that's you and you want to do that
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  Speaker 3: and you want to tell people how great a product is,
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  Speaker 3: even when it isn't go far it, but it's not
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  Speaker 3: the truth. It's not the facts, and that's not what
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  Speaker 3: we're about here on our platform at Last Stop Waterfowl Doors.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to tell you the truth.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna give you the skinny on it, and you
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  Speaker 3: make that decision at that point if it's something you
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  Speaker 3: want to go out there and spend your hard earning
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  Speaker 3: money on, you know, but if you see us promote
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  Speaker 3: a product, then it's something that we believe in.
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  Speaker 2: It's something that we trust and we believe in.
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  Speaker 3: So with that being said, in that rant being over
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  Speaker 3: this episode, guys, what we're gonna talk about is one
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  Speaker 3: of the most popular topics when it comes to duck hunting,
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  Speaker 3: and that is waterfoul shotguns.
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  Speaker 2: And I told you I'm a budget guy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking for good quality, but I also want something
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  Speaker 3: that is going to be affordable. And in today's industry
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  Speaker 3: of duck hunting, when you look at waterfoul shotguns out there,
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  Speaker 3: it could get really overwhelming. Unless you've been in this
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  Speaker 3: for a long time and been around this, you know
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  Speaker 3: this this sport for o a very long time, it
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  Speaker 3: could blow you away. When you go into a store,
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  Speaker 3: a local sporting goods store to look for a shotgun
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  Speaker 3: because you're getting into duck hunting and you see the
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  Speaker 3: price tags on these things. You could spend thousands and
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  Speaker 3: thousands of dollars and that may not be what you
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  Speaker 3: need because I could tell you you do not need
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  Speaker 3: that to be able to kill ducks. So in this episode,
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  Speaker 3: I have compiled a list right here, guys, I put
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  Speaker 3: it together. If you're watching this on video, I have
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  Speaker 3: compiled a list of budget friendly shotguns for waterfoul hunters,
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  Speaker 3: and we are gonna break it down into two categories.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna break it down into nursing driven shotguns that
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  Speaker 3: I've personally used before. I've also had buddies of mine
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  Speaker 3: that shoot these particular waterfoul shotguns and I could tell
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  Speaker 3: you I've hunted with them in the blind. I've seen
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  Speaker 3: reliability and I could vouch for it. I can tell
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  Speaker 3: you that it's a good quality gun.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna break it down for y'all to simplify it.
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  Speaker 3: If I was buying a shotgun in twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 3: these are some of the and models that I would
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  Speaker 3: recommend to anybody looking to get into it. Now, this
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  Speaker 3: is the deal. On this episode, we're gonna talk about shotguns.
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  Speaker 3: They're gonna be at a price point of eleven hundred
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  Speaker 3: dollars on down and you may say, Jacob, eleven hundred dollars,
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  Speaker 3: one thousand dollars that's not a budget shotgun. Well, in
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  Speaker 3: the world of waterfowl hunting nowadays, guys, it really is
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  Speaker 3: because it can get super expensive. We're talking about budget,
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  Speaker 3: but we're also talking about reliability, something that's proven, something
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  Speaker 3: that you could get a warranty on, you can get
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  Speaker 3: customer support on, and you could get parts board. That's
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  Speaker 3: a big thing as well when it comes to waterfowl shotguns.
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  Speaker 3: You don't want to be out in the field and
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  Speaker 3: have a piece of your gun fly from maricol off
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  Speaker 3: of a shot and then you try to go find
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  Speaker 3: a piece for it and you can't get it.
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  Speaker 2: Then you have a useless shotgun.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you may have paid three or four hundred dollars
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  Speaker 3: for it, but you can't get nothing worked on or
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  Speaker 3: any kind of parts for it. And that is the
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  Speaker 3: worst thing. We've all been there before, probably I know
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  Speaker 3: I have. I've tried that route. It doesn't work, guys.
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  Speaker 3: It just simply doesn't work real well for you end
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  Speaker 3: up having a gun that you have to throw away
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  Speaker 3: in that situation. So we're gonna talk about eleven hundred
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  Speaker 3: dollars range on down. I'm gonna tell you some brands
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  Speaker 3: that I recommend, uh some of them I've used personally,
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  Speaker 3: and we're gonna get right into it at that point.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, right now, we're gonna jump into it.
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  Speaker 3: So don't mind if you watching me on video, Please
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  Speaker 3: don't mind me looking down in my que cards because
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  Speaker 3: I've written all this stuff down, done my research, made
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  Speaker 3: notes on this stuff, and this is where we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: jump into it.
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  Speaker 2: So we're gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Start out with a nursia driven shotgun. So inertia driven
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  Speaker 3: shotguns versus gas driven shotguns.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of.
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  Speaker 3: People have an opinion on that. Some of you guys
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  Speaker 3: love gas power, some of you guys love innersia driven.
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  Speaker 3: There is differences there. Inertia typically is gonna be uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, smoother. It's gonna be less cleaning on it. Basically,
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  Speaker 3: I say smoother. When I say that, less cleaning, that's
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  Speaker 3: really what I mean by it's gonna be a little
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  Speaker 3: bit smoother action on the bolts whenever you're pulling back,
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  Speaker 3: you know, those bolt actions on these guns. Just the
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  Speaker 3: mechanisms and the setup is simpler than gas driven, no pistons,
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  Speaker 3: none of that type of stuff. But without getting into
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  Speaker 3: all that, you guys kind of probably already know the
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  Speaker 3: difference between inertia and gas. That's for another video. So
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna start with a nurser driven guys. So my
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  Speaker 3: number one gun that I have on the list for
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  Speaker 3: a budget friendly a nurser driven shotgun would be Stoger
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  Speaker 3: in three thousand and the Stoger thirty five thirty five hundred.
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  Speaker 3: So I could tell you personally, I have been shooting
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  Speaker 3: a Stoger twenty gauge the thirty twenty over the last
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  Speaker 3: probably five to six seasons. And I do mix certain
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  Speaker 3: guns in throughout the season because I am a shotgun guy.
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  Speaker 3: I have a lot of shotguns. I love shooting different shotguns,
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  Speaker 3: but my primary gun that I've went to is a Stoger,
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  Speaker 3: and I could tell you first hand that Stoger is
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  Speaker 3: a bang for the buck. It is extremely reliable when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to the price point that it comes in at.
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  Speaker 3: And in this particular video, I mentioned in the Stoger
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  Speaker 3: in three thousand because a lot of you guys are
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  Speaker 3: probably shooting twelve gauge, even though some of you now
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  Speaker 3: are going to twenty gauge shop gauges, but the twelve
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  Speaker 3: gauge is what a lot of people are shooting right now.
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  Speaker 3: So the m three thousand is one of the most
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  Speaker 3: reliable guns at the price point that it comes in at.
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  Speaker 2: So what price point does it come in at.
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  Speaker 3: Well, whenever you go to the store, you're going to
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  Speaker 3: see a range of anywhere from about five hundred and
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  Speaker 3: fifty dollars to seven hundred and fifty dollars on the
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  Speaker 3: Stoger in three thousand. If you want to bump up
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  Speaker 3: to the thirty five hundred, which is there three and
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  Speaker 3: a half. Therefore, the three five in the thirty five hundred,
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  Speaker 3: it's a three and a half inch. If some of
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  Speaker 3: you guys want to go out there and then you
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  Speaker 3: shoot three and a half because they don't make four inch,
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  Speaker 3: then that may be the gun for you.
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  Speaker 2: You may be at a three and a half inch.
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  Speaker 3: God they make it on that it's going to set
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  Speaker 3: you back about six fifty to eight p fifty.
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  Speaker 2: And that all depends on what color.
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  Speaker 3: Patterns you go with. Do you want to Matt Black
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  Speaker 3: basic design? Do you want some something that has, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a camouflage pattern that have Sara coated barrels on them. Now,
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  Speaker 3: so that's gonna be on the upper end of that
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  Speaker 3: spectrum when it comes to price points. But when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to Stoger factory support. That's one of the key
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  Speaker 3: benefits with Stoger. You are gonna be backed by, you know,
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  Speaker 3: factory support with them parts availability, that's another huge deal.
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  Speaker 3: And really they fall under the same umbrella as Fronkie,
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  Speaker 3: they fall into the same umbrella as Banelli, and then Bretta.
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  Speaker 2: Is a parent company that owns all of them.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: So when you have that kind of backing behind you,
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: it is hard to step away from a company that
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: you could get customer support for that makes a reliable
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: product at that price point. As a matter of fact,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: I have the Stoger on this list. I'm a spoiler alert.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you guys that actually have it listed
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: as the best value in a inertia driven shotgun on
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: this list.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: That I've compiled for you guys.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: So if you're looking to buy one, I would definitely
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: tell you go look at Stoger in three thousand or
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: thirty five hundred. But another key advantage with that gun
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: is it's extremely simple to clean, and it's less cleaning
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: because it's a nurser driven so no gas pistons. I
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: already mentioned that it's much easier to clean when it
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: comes to it, and honestly, a nurser driven guys in Louisiana.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: I've been in the swamps, I've been in the saltwater marshes.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: You could drag this thing through all of those conditions
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: and you just simply it's clean when you break it down.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: For the most part, it's pretty clean overall, as compared
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: to some of the gas operated systems that I've used
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: through the years that when you break it down and
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: go clean it, it is just packed with dirt, you know,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: and all that debrising stuff that sticks to those gas pistons.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: It makes a difference. Inertia is cleaner, I'll tell you
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: the truth on that. So it really is also great
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: warranty five year warranty on the Stoger in three thousand
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: and thirty five hundred, five year warranty on that gun
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: with customer support for parts. You know, you could send
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: it back to them they have. You know, they're gonna
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: get it fixed. They're gonna get it back to you
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: in a timely fashion, hopefully depending on when that gun
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: gets sent to them. Of course, juring hunting seasons, those
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: times slow down a little bit. But I have had
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: to use the warranting department before, and I could tell
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: you the turnaround time was really really good with them
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: as well. So that is one of my best budgets,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: my best value budget shotgun in an unners of driven gun.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Now the next one I have on my list, Guys,
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: this is one that you may not be as familiar with,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: but I have two friends of mine that actually have
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: purchased this gun and I'm impressed with it. So we
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: all know that Retake came onto the market a couple
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: of years ago in the American market with the Reta
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: ma Samara. I went out, I bought one myself, phenomenal gun.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: I bought it in a twelve gage. I passed it
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: on to Jackson. Now that's actually what Jackson is shooting.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: That's his main gun. I'm a twenty gauge guy now
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: for the most part. So I said, hey, if I'm
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: not gonna shoot it, I'm gonna give it to him.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: He's been shooting the Masamra. Awesome gun. Awesome gun. But
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: that's not the gun I'm talking about from retail. So
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: the Retake Guardian, if you haven't heard about it, go
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: check it out. Look it up. It's on retail's website.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: It's on there for twenty twenty six. I've seen it
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: in a couple of stores. Guys, the retake Guardian priced
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: that's seven hundred and fifty to eight hundred and fifty.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: A nursing driven When you're dealing with a retay, it's
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: gonna be an a nursing driven platform. Now, keep benefit
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: with retail. Something that they hang their hat on whenever
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: it comes to their reliability is the bolt system that
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: retail uses. So those of us who have shot a
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: nursing driven shot gunners, we know that that bolt will
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: not always go into battery. How many times have you
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: had a Bonelli, You've had a Fronkie, you've had a Stoger, whatever,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: the nursing driven platform is. You go to pull up
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: on something on those ducks that coming into the decoys
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: and click, you get that click, And what it is
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: is that inertia bolt on those designs didn't shut properly,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: It didn't shut.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Completely, and that boat did not go.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Into action to be able to fire that shell whenever
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: you pull the trigger. Well, Retay solved that problem. They
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: took that issue when they designed their boat pattern system
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: on their shotguns, and they guarantee that that boat will
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: go into battery and be ready to shoot every time
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: it closes. So when that shell ejects and another one
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: goes into the chamber that boat slides up, it will
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: be in place and it will not have that issue
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: that you see with some of the other inertia brands.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: And I can tell you first and once again personal
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: use that with the retail Ma Samaria, I bought.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Every time that boat shuts.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Every time, never have to, you know, push that boat
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: close to make sure, kind of push on it, which
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: I do with my Stoger.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest with y'all.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: With my Stoger, even though I don't have it happen
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: very often, I still have had it happen in the
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: past with my Banelles, with so some of my Fronkies
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: that I've shot through the years where I had that
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: click happen to me and I got used it so
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: almost like a reaction. Now, when my chamber shuts, I
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: always push to make sure that that chamber's completely closed
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: and that that boat is in full battery and ready
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: to fire at that point. With the Retail, I don't
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: have to do that. With the Masamara I have I
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: never had to do it. It's shut properly. I check it.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: It works with the Retail Guardian. They have the exact
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: same inertia boat system on there, this particular gun, and
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: it comes in at a budget range of once again,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty to eight hundred and fifty dollars guys.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: So it is a budget friendly shot gun.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: It is proven, it's designed to stay locked so you
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: don't have to worry about it. Once again, less cleaning
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: than a gas system, and it really feels nice. This
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: gun feels really nice at a budget price point that
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about here, it feels more high end, it
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: feels more Banelli, it feels more high end Burretta. It
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: just has a really good balance to it, a really
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: good fit and finish, and the feel is really good
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: on that particular gun. So if you haven't heard of
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: the Retail Guardian, guys, go check it out.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Another major benefit to that gun is it has a
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: limited lifetime warranty. Like with all retail shot guns, a
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: limited lifetime warranty. So people hear lifetime warranty, that's what
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: they hear. So yes, it does have a lifetime warranty
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: of course, limited they throw that in there, and that means, hey,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: if you go beat this thing up against a tree,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: you misuse it, you don't take care of it.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: They could come back and say, hey, something's not covered.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: But for the most part, any kind of factory defect
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: that causes this gun to fail, it is covered for
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: the lifetime of the owner. Of the owner, so resell
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: value if you pass it on. I think that transfers
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: from understand to the next owner as well. I think
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: they might have to fill out a warranty claim on
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: or not a warranty claim, but a transfer of ownership
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: to them. From what I've been told, I'm not a
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: hundred percent shot on that, guys, That's what I was told.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I would have to look into that a little bit better.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: But for the original owner, if you're looking to buy
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: this gun and keep it long term, you know, ten years,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: fifteen years down the road, you have a lifetime warranty
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: on this bar warm from any manufacturer defects on it.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: So that alone puts it on my list for budget
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: value shotguns for twenty twenty six that you need.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: To look at if you're looking at buying a gun.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: All right, moving on, guys, the third one that I
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: have on this list is the weather be Element. A
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: lot of people, a lot of you guys, have purchased
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: weather be Elements over the last couple of seasons, and
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: every time I do a waterfowl shotgun video, I'll always
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: get comments down in the comments section saying.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Hey, what about the weather be Element? What do you
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: think on it? Man? I have it. You didn't mention it.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: It's an awesome gun.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Well, I have been around some guys now that have it,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: and I haven't personally owned one, but I could tell
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: you I'm impressed with it.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I've held it in stores.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: The issue I had as actually a gun that I
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: went look at a few years ago when I went
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: and bought the retail the one I was telling you,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I bought the Massamera. I bought that gun of Cabellas.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: The weather be Element was on my list to look at.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: The problem with that was that I couldn't find a
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: weather be element at all to look at in person,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: and I couldn't hold one, And that was an issue
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: for me, which ultimately lent me to not consider it
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: at that point because.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I couldn't get it in my hands. But and that
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: could have been because it was hunting season.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Let me say that. Let me say that it was
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: during hunting season. You know how it is. It could
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: be tougher to find those guns general waterfowl season because
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: you know guys are buying them, so a little bit tougher.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: But I couldn't find them in my area to be
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: able to hold one. But some of my buddies got them.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: They have them, and they love them. I can tell
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: you that reliability and a price point between six fifty
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: and eight point fifty once again, depending on.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: What model you go with. They love their weather be elements.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I have to say that extremely you know, lightweight for
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: what it is, it's an innertia driven platform. We're talking
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: about a nurser driven value guns here. So they love
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: that ballance, every one of them that I have talked
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: to that. I say, what do you like about your element?
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: They say, man, it's just balance. That word keeps coming
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: up with the weather be element. So balance means a
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: lot for somebody who is wing shooting, because it plays
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: into how well you shoot sometimes how quick you could
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: recover from a shot being fired, get on that next
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: bird and go to that next shot.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of little factors like that.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: That play into these waterfowl shot guns that somebody who's
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: new to it may not even look forward, it may
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: not even realize, but if you're an experienced waterfowl hunter,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: balance makes a huge difference. And that's one of the
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: key things that keeps coming up as far as a
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: pro when it comes to the weather be element from people.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: That I know that have.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: They are also available in a three and a three
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: and a half inch, So that's another perk if you're
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: a three and a half inch god, maybe you want
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: to do some goose hunt with it. They do make
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: a three and a half inch version as well. Now
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: warranty five year warranty. It has a five year warranty
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: for the original purchaser of the gun, so a really
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: solid warranty as well, and you can get parts and
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: you know, have it worked on and be able to
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: get customer support with weather it be, whether it be
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: From what I understand, their customer service is really really good.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: It's one of it's you know, there are a lot
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: of these companies, I'll be honest with y'all in the
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: waterfowl shotgun industry and the firearms industry. They do provide
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: pretty damn good customer service, because at the end of
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: the day, even though we're talking budget shotguns, you're still
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: spending a lot of money, and you know, I think
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: they realize that, and these companies will get a bad
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: reputation very quickly if they don't have customer support. Does
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: that mean you're not going to have a bad experience
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: with them, you personally whenever you have to use it. No,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that we could all have bad experience,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: and they could have, you know, an experience with the
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: customer that they aren't exactly proud of. But at the
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: end of the day, if it's consistent, they're not gonna
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: hang around in word is gonna get out, guys.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: It will.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: But from what I understand, whether it Be's customer service
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: is excellent, very very very very good. So once again,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: six hundred and fifty dollars to eight hundred and fifty dollars,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: if you could find one in a store you know
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: where you live, you're looking around at go check out
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: the weather be Element, pick it up. See what they're
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: talking about when they're talking about how balanced it is
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: compared to a couple of other models in the store.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Maybe some of them that were talking about on this
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: list and see what you think. I can tell y'all.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Going back to the Stoger, that's one thing I have
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: never liked about the twelve gage Stoger. Personally, it's bulky.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: It's a bulky, bulky gun.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: To me. It's not that it's heavy, it's not super heavy.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: It's more of the bulkiness for me, and from you know,
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: what I see is that that inertia system is more
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: in the forearm the butt, or not the butt, the
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: fore arm area of the of the shotgun, which makes
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: it a little different than some of the nurses driven shotguns,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: where the nursing systems built more towards the butt end
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: of the gun, you know, towards the back end of
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: the gun. So for me, the Stoger, I have never
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: purchased the twelve gauge. Even though it's super reliable, it's
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: an excellent gun, I personally don't like the feel of
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: it because of the bulkiness of it. Now, yes, I
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: shoot a Stoger in a twenty gauge, but it's completely different.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: The twenty gauge version is completely different. It's a lot
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: more sleeker, it's smaller, and it's just streamlined much better
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: in my opinion. So that's something that I do need
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: to mention on that stoger that I don't like versus
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: maybe the weather be Element or the retail Guardian from
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: what I've held and seen. So just wanted to mention
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: that to y'all. All right, moving on, guys, the next
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: one on our budget friendly list. Now, this is going
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: to be towards the top end tier of our budget
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: you know, friendly guns that we're talking about in this episode.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: But I promised you, guys we would keep it to
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: eleven hundred dollars on down. That's what I promised, y'all.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: That's what we're gonna do. This one is on the
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: top end of that tier. So number four, the Frankie
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Affinity three. A lot of guys gonna listen to this.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: I gonna say, absolutely, I have a Frankie affinity. I
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: cannot complain about it. I absolutely love that gun gun.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: If you want top tier fit and finish, that's where
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: the Frankie Affinity three is gonna come into play. In
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, guys, if you don't want to spend
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: eighteen hundred on or two thousand dollars on a super
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: black ego three from Midali or the newest Barretta or
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: whatever high end gun that's out there that's running fifteen
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: hundred to you know, two thousand dollars range, then the
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Frankie affinity is a gun that you need to pick up.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: If your budget range is that thousand dollars range eleven hundred,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: splurge a little bit on down a little bit below
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: that thousand dollars range, then the Frankie affinity is probably
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: gonna be a great option for you to go look at.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: So the Frankie affinity once again falls under that umbrella Banelli, Stoger,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Barretta family, that whole big umbrella quality, history, customer support, parts, availability,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: all that. You're gonna get it all, but fidd and
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: finish on. The Frankie affinity is gonna be a little
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: nicer or let me not say, a little nicer fit.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: And finish of parts.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Like when you look at the internals, the chambers, the
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: fitting finish on the hydrid dip graphics on the gun itself,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: the paint schemes, all that type of stuff, you're gonna
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: notice it is better than any of the other guns
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: that we've talked about so far in this episode, it
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: just is. The Fidd and Finish is going to be
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: next level. So fidd and finished, why would you want
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: to pay more for that fit and finish?
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Does that really make a difference to you.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Well, if you're a guy who is looking to keep
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: that gun long term, you want to pass it down
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: to your kids the next generation, then yes, fidd and
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Finish is gonna probably be something that's important to you
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: at that point.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: So the Frankie Finish definitely is in that range. Price
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: point is.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Gonna be somewhere between nine hundred to eleven hundred dollars,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: depending on what color scheme you go with, the Sarah
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: coding on the barrels, all that type of stuff that
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: we all know now raises the price on these guns.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: But fit and Finish I have that underline.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Gosh, that's important when you're looking into Frankie affinity. Also,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: the action smooth as butter It's extremely, extremely smooth. When
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: you pull that charging handle back, you're gonna notice immediately
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: how smooth it is. Compared to some of the other
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: guns that we've mentioned, even though they're very good, the
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Frankie affinity is just better on when it comes to
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: that strong resale value. That is something else if you
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: are a person that's gonna resell this gun later on
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: strong resale value because Spronkie, I have sold resold a
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Frankie before myself, and I could tell you I got
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: almost as much.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: As what I paid for it when I bought it.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: It was crazy. I didn't think.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I'd get that out of it, but I did, because
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Frankie has really good resale value on it, just like
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Bonelli almost just like you know Baretta does. It's right
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: up there with them from what I've seen, so resale
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: value is very strong on them. Also, warranty you're paying more,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: So what's the warranty like on it? Well, with the
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: frank Affinity three, you're gonna get a seven year warranty,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: so it's more well, I mean, I say more than
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: all the guns we talked about, because remember the Retail
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Guardian has a limited lifetime.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Warranty on it.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: But out of the other ones we talked about, which
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: were five years on those, just want to double check
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: my notes. You have five years on the weather be
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Element and the Stoger in three thousand. The Franki Affinity
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: three is gonna get you seven years. So if you're
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: paying more, get a little bit more warranty out of it.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: So if you need support, you have seven years that
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: you have on any kind of failure on that shotgun
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: that's factory manufacturing related. They are going to cover it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: And the customer support is extremely good with them. I
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: already mentioned that with Stoger as well. So want to
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: hire fit and finish. You want something a little bit
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: more premium, feeling balanced. The balance is really good on
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: the Frankie Affinity too. Once again, really really good there.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: You know, paint schemes, camouflaging, all that to last, you're
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: gonna get it with the Frankie Affinity.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: It's extremely reliable gun, but it's really made well with
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: higher end premium parts. It feels like, which is where
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: that fitting finish comes into place. So that is my
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: highest on the list when it comes to inertia driven shotguns.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: And really, if you're an inertia guy, you can't go
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: wrong with any of these options that I'm telling you
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: about right here. If you're looking to buy a new
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: gun in twenty twenty six, guys, so I don't know,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: I want y'all to tell me. Drop it down in
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: the comments on the inertia section that guns that I
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: talked about.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Do you agree with some of this? What's your experience being?
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I want to know what you guys think, So drop
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: comments down below and let's let other people know your
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: experience and kind of Do you agree with what I've
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: said here or do you maybe disagree on some things?
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Or do you have some suggestions that owners that are
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: maybe looking to buy these guns they may want to
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: look out for, or some tips and tricks.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: To maintain these guns.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Any of that stuff, it'll help somebody, So drop it
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: down in the comments. So that's gonna round out our
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: inertial section for our budget friendly shotguns. Okay, so now
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: we're gonna shift towards gas operated. Let's go towards gas
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: operated gun. Well I say that, yeah, let's do gas operator.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Let's let's jump into that neck. So I have two
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: guns that made my list of gas operated guns that
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: I highly recommend in twenty twenty six for budget friendly shotguns.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: The first one.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Jumping right into it is the Winchester SX four. Guys,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: a lot of you love the sx four. It is
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: a budget friendly, considered budget friendly when we're talking about
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: waterfowl shotguns. And a lot of you love the win
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Chester SX four. Look that SX four has been around
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: for a long time. I remember when the SX two
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: came out, and then down the line, you know, they
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: released new models, and guys have always loved the Winchester
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: SX models because they're reliable.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: They're reliable, they are soft shooting.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: And when you're talking about gas guns versus inertia guns,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: a lot of you say, hey, a gas gun is
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: for me because it's softer on the shoulder. It has
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: less recall than inertia, less recall. I could get on
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: that next shot a little bit quicker, a little bit easier, smoother,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it's just easier
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: on me. I like a gas driven platform, and that's awesome.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: I think that's great. Whatever fits you, Hey, you.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Do you and roll with it at that point.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: But the Winchester SSEX four, it is a gas driven
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: operating system. It has a price point range of eight
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: hundred to a thousand dollars depending on what you go with,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: color scheme and all that stuff that we talked about
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: a while ago.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Softer recall.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: That's the number one thing that I have underlined on
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: which is great. It's a it's a reliable shotgun. Winchester
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: has availability on parts for it, and they have great
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: customer support as well on it.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: So that is really, really.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: You know, something that you could rely on when you're
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: gonna buy an SX.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Four uh more. Cleaning. That's the only thing that I'm
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: gonna tell y'all.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: When it comes to gas driven guns, you are gonna
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: clean them more than inertia driven shotguns. They're gonna be
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: dirtier because of those gas piston systems in them. When
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: you're guy that's gonna drag it through the swamp, drag
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: it through the rice fields, drag it through some nasty,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: just mucky terrain, you will have to end up cleaning
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: those guns a little bit more than you will with
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: a nursier driven platforms. And if you don't, you're gonna
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: start seeing those failures. You're gonna start seeing clicks. And
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: some of you are probably gonna sit there and say,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: that's bullshit, Jacob, I don't ever clean my gun and
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: I do all of that that you just talked about.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: And if that's the case, hey, great, great for you.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: You just lucky in that situation. But I can't tell
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: you that gas driven systems over the hunting here in Louisiana.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I've had it happen to me where we had failure
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: because of a lack of cleaning it. Just that stuff
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: gets into that system and it starts clunking it up,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: it starts making it where it don't want to operate
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: a smooth and eventually you could have a failure where
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: you have to break it down, go clean it and
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: get it back smooth, get it running again. So it's
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: the only thing I'll say about the gas driven ones
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: in that situation, all right. And the last one on
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: the gas that I would tell you is a budget
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: friendly gun for you guys to go check out if
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: you're looking at purchasing a new gun in twenty twenty
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: six for this upcoming season is the Barretta A three
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: hundred Ultimate. A lot of you are gonna say about time,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: about time Jacob brings up Barretta.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Look, hey, Barretta is.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: The king when it comes to, you know, shotguns in
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: the industry, especially with water fowling shotguns. If it's not
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: a Barretta Brandon gun, they're making it, they own it,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: They're under their umbrella. Like we talked about Banella, Frankie Stove,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: all those brands are owned by Barretta. So Barretta is
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: the giant in the industry when it comes to waterfowl
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: and shotguns and what they make. But yes, Barretta obviously
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: makes guns under their own brand and they are phenomenal.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Me personally, I'm gonna be one hundred percent transparent with
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: y'all own this. I have never owned the Barretta shotgun,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: and I own a lot of shotguns. I don't know
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: why I've never purchased a Barretta shotgun. I've actually picked
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: up a couple in the stores before. But I've always
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: as a waterfowl guy ever since I graduated from a
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: pump shotgun. I have always loved anersia driven and Barretta
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: really never does inertia.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: They do gas systems for the most part, So for me.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: I've always kind of leaned toward those inertia brands that
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: we've talked about in this episode already. But man, honestly,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Barretta is a fantastic company.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: You know. They make the most.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Badass shotguns, and they're reliable and people absolutely love them.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: They have a loyal falling on to the point it's
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: a cold falling.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: You know, I think everybody, every brand has their own
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: little colt followings, you know, when it comes to loyalty
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: from customers because they love them, they've had good experiences
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: with them. But in the Barretta lineup, the A three
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: hundred Ultimate Guys, that is one that you're gonna want
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: to look at.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: When it comes to being budget Friendlin, you're.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Looking at a nine hundred to eleven hundred dollars price
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: point on that gun. Yes, it's on the higher tier,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: similar to the Frankie on the nurser driven side, but
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: you're gonna get fit and finished, you're gonna get Bretta support, parts, availability,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: and a lot of you love those guns because they're
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: just simply reliable.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: They're awesome, they shoot really well, they're smoothed.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Everything is premium on it, and it's not two thousand
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: dollars premium. It's nine hundred to eleven hundred dollars premium,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: which is still premium at the end of the day.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: And it's a very very good option. I got one
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: body that I know for sure that hunts with that gun,
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: and he said, I'll never own another gun.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: When it comes to duck hunting guns, he said, this
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: is the gun.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, I know they make more high end guns that
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Barretta makes, and he loves his Burretta.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: He loves the brand of Barretta.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: But he said, I will own this shotgun as long
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: as it'll continue to operate and with Barretta, you don't
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: see any problems with that. Long term resell value on
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: this gun is gonna be really really good.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: That's a perk.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: If you're gonna be a guy who's gonna use it
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: for a couple of seasons, then you may say, hey,
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna switch over something else and use another brand
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: or use a different gun that maybe Burretta comes out with.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: If you want to go and resell this gun, it's
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: gonna have a high resale value. I could guarantee you
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: from Barretta. It's gonna sell for premium price. If you're
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: not somebody who wants to resell it, you just want
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: a very good, budget friendly, but yet premium shotgun that
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: you could pass down once again to the generation coming
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: up behind you. It's gonna probably be able to do
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: that for you guys. So it's a long term investment. Yes,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: it's expensive, but I could tell you and you guys
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: know this, Prices don't seem to go down through the years.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: They just continue to creep up and up and up.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: So right now it may seem like a lot of money,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: But if you want something that's gonna be long term,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: and you've really looked at the Barretta, you know, as
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: compared to some of the other brands in the market,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: and you like it, no pun intended, but pull the trigger.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: On it now.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Go buy the Barretta now because they're not gonna get
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: cheaper probably over time, and who knows, they could even
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: discontinue a certain model that's really well liked and really well.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: So we've seen that happen over time as well.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: So, uh, Barretta A three hundred Ultimate, I want to
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: make sure I got those numbers right, because Barretta has
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: a lot of models that sounds similar to each other,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: but the A three hundred Ultimate, guys, go check that
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: gun out if you're looking for a bunch of friendly
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: shotgun for waterfowl hunting this season.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: So all right, so that rounds out.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: That is my suggestions, my take on budget friendly shotguns
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: for semi autos. We talked about inertia, we talked about
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: gas driven shotguns, and these were all semi automatic shotguns.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: So now it's time to touch on a couple of
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: old reliables when it comes to waterfouling shotguns. And when
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: you're talking about reliable, you're talking about legacy. You're talking
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: about guns that have been around for a long time.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: When it comes to waterfowl hunting, you are talking about
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: pump shotguns. A lot of us that now we've done
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: graduated from pump shotguns.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: We moved up to semi automatics.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: That may be the case, but we all just about
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: all started out with pump shotguns. So what are some
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: budget friendly, reliable shotguns when we're talking about pumps, Because hey,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: we may be in a category if you're watching this
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: and you say, hey, I Jacob, I don't have eight
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars to spend. That's too expensive for me to
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: be able to go out there and get into duck hunting,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: or you know, just my budget doesn't allow it. I've
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: been duck hunt my whole life, but my budget doesn't
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: allow that. And that's that's that's perfectly fine in that situation.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: That is perfectly fine in that situation. So the first
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: one that I'm going to talk about on this list
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: right here is the Winchester SXP pump shot gun.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Once again, Winchester makes that list. A lot of guys
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: very loyal to Winchester. They love Winchester. The SXP pump
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: is a gun that they've been making for quite some time.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: So the SXP pump comes in at a four hundred
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: dollars to six hundred and fifty dollars price point depending
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: on fit and finish. What you want to get, camouflage,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: all that stuff, Sarah codin all that type of stuff.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: But what do people like about that gun? What do
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I like about that gun? Because I've shot it, play
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: shot with it, I've dove hunted with it. I've had
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: some time with the SXP through the year Squirrel hundred
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: with it as well.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Fast action.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: That is one of the things that we see people
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: talk about all the time is fast action. It's reliable
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: and it has a fast action when it comes to
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: a pump shotgun. So that is something people really enjoy it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: They really like about the Winchester SXP. So a great value,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: budget friendly gun to go. Take a look at SXP
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: from Winchester guys. The next one, moving on Mosburger. Everybody
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: that's been around shotguns knows Mosburger reliability in the industry.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Mosburg is extremely reliable. They are proven. They are a
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: legacy brand in the industry. Now, some people they've told me,
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: they said, Jacob Mosburg's kind of fell off. You don't
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: really hear waterfowl guys talking about Mosburg.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Quite as much anymore.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: That may be the case, guys, but Mosburg is still
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: there and they are still producing some very good quality shotguns.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: The Mossburg five hundred.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Is the gun that I have on this list for
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: a pump and that gun is a legend. It's one
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: of the go to the industry when you're talking about
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: waterfowl hunting shotguns. Four hundred and fifty to six hund
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: price range on their guns, and a lot of you
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: listening to this may say, good God, these guns have
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: went up. I bought my boss Berg for two fifty
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: to three hundred, you know, years ago, I bought whatever
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: gun for X amount back in the day.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: And that's right.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: But we all know, like we said, things have crept up,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: and that's just not the case anymore. It's more expensive
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: to get into the game nowadays than it has ever
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: been before. I always talk about that, and that's why
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: I feel it's important to talk about what's affordable for
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: people to be able to get into the sport, get
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: into the hobby, get into this passion that we all.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Love so much.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: And these are models that I think fit that bill.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: That's why we're talking about this right. So the Mossburg
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: five hundred four fifty to six hundred dollars proven history guys.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: I have it underline twice because the history with them.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: When you have a history like moss Burg, customer support, reliability,
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: this thing just simply works. It doesn't matter what you
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: put it through.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: It works.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: It's gonna get the job done. You could go out there,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: you could kill a mess of ducks with it. You
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: could turn around, you can go score hunt, rabbit hunt,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: they're hunt with it. Whatever you want to do. Parts availability.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: They have tons and tons of parts to be able to,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: you know, fix these guns. If something goes down, you could,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: you know, modify them. You can do all kinds of
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: stuff with them. Easy to find parts, that's another thing
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I have underline. So all though parts are available, it
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: is very easy to find parts for Mulsburg. Most of
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: your local gunsmiths. They'll have parts available for these guns.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: So if you have something go down during the season,
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: you can get it to a gunsmith. They could get
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: it fixed for you pretty quickly, get you back out there,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: get you back in the field, and get you going again.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: So that's something that's really really good about this gun
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: and multi hunt. I underline that I just touched on
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: it for a second. You could have this gun and
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: it could be your do everything type of gun when
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: it comes to hunt. So you could score hunt with it,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: rabbit hunt with it, quail hunt with it, go skeet
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: shooting with it, whatever you want to do. It's going
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: to be multi purpose, and that is what makes the
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: mast per five hundred such a great value when it
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: comes to budget friendly shotguns. But more than that, it's reliability.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: To guys, you can use this thing as a boat
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: paddle if you want to, and it's gonna get you back.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Motor goes down this season, that surface drive, that outboard
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: goes down, Throw that muskperg you know, five hundred over
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: the side of the boat, start paddle, and it's gonna
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: get you back to the lotch' that's the facts. That's true, guys.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: You probably could. Some of you listening could attest to
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: that you've done it. You've done it with another gun.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about here in a second, real quick,
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: which is diving into that next gun when we're talking pumps.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: The Remonton eight seventy, Remonton eight seventy, Reminton. Remendon's still around,
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Yes they are. Reminton is still around in twenty twenty six, guys.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: They are making shotguns again. They went through a lot
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: of financial trouble, a lot of struggles on the financial
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: side of things, but they are out there.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: They are producing shotguns.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: And a lot of people kind of aren't even familiar
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: with that now because they think they went bankrupt and disappeared,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: fell off the mat.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: But yes, they are.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Making shotguns, manufacturing shotguns, and they're still making the most
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: reliable pump shotgun to ever.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Hit the face of the planet, which is the Remanton
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: eight seventy. Guys. So if you are in the.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Market for a new shotgun, you go to your sporting
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: your store, you see a Remonton eight.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Seventy up there, and you're on a budget.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: It is hard not to pick up the remnt in
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: eight seventy, not to mention you could find tons of
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: these on the used market, or at least you used
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: to be able to find tons of these on the
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: used market. Now the deal with used ones is, from
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: what I understand, is that since the bankruptcy, since this
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: new company that came in and bought them and they
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: started manufacturing guns, people aren't quite sure of the reliability
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: when it comes to the new models that are out
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: there nowadays. So the used ones on the used market
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: have been highly sought after. They're going for more premium
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: prices from the older model ones that were built by
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Remington when Remington was building just that proven platform. But
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: let me tell you all this about the age seventy.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: It's an extremely simple desire. It's been around forever, it's proven.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: We all know that once again, you need to use
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: it as a paddle. Use it as a paddle, Pick
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: it up out the water, load it up with a
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: couple of shells. Go shoot some ducks, Go shoot some geese,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: go shoot whatever game you're pursuing. At that point. It's
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: gonna work. It's gonna go boom when you pull the
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: trigger on it. Right, that's what's gonna happen. I can
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: tell you I have them. I've had that gun. I've
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: had multiple versions of that gun in my collection. Now,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: my kids have shot them. I've shot them, my dad
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: shot him, my grandfather shot them. You're gonna pull the trigger,
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: They're gonna go boom on them.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: So it's hard not to look at a rim Inton
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: eight seventy, even though it's a twenty twenty six version,
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: because the design is so simple. It is really tough
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: to mess up that design and say sit here and say, hey,
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: it's not gonna go boom when you pull the trigger.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: I think reliability is still going to be there, and
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: customer support, from what I understand, is still pretty good
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: on the customer support side of it.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: They're making ammunition as well.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: I think Federal now kind of from what I underst
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: and you guys can correct me if I'm wrong, but
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: I think Federal ammunition is actually in cahoots making remonton
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: ammunition or manufacturing. It's something going on there. But Reminton
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: still has their name on ammunition now, and they still
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: are producing shotguns four hunters to be able to go
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: out and use. So that's something that you definitely want
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: to check out if you're looking at a budget shotgun
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: is the Remitton eight seventy legendary reputation. And another good
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: thing about it is after market parts you could get them,
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: you can modify them.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: The only thing that I looked into a little bit
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: was warranton. What's the warranton on on Remitton eight seventy
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: and twenty twenty six. Well, Reminton doesn't actually put a
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: warranty out there. They don't actually state, hey, it's a
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: five year warranted, it's a seven year warranty, it's a
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: lifetime warranted. They don't actually mention warranty. They just say
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: customer support if anything were to fail.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: I don't exactly know. I don't know if that means, hey,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: you send it in to us, we're gonna charge you
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: for whatever. You know, So, I don't know if you
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: guys have experience on that. With a new Remington let
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: me know, I know, the old stuff, you would send
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: them back to Remington, they would replace it, repaired, and
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: send them back to you. There wasn't a lot of
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: cost involved unless it was something that was maybe you know,
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: user inflicted, but that wasn't the case back then. With
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: the new modern day ones, I have no clue, So
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: you guys may be able to help me out. But
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to note that there is no warranty
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: that is mentioned with Remington. Now, all right, And the
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: last gun that we're gonna mention on the pump list, guys,
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Banelli Bnelli Nova. A lot of you guys are out
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: there shooting Benelli novas. A lot of you guys started
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: with Benelly novas. It is a reliable platform, legendary name
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: in the industry. We know Bonnelli from the semi auto line,
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: but hey, they make an awesome pump shot gun too.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: That is grateful.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Waterfowl hunting and any other hunting for that matter. And
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: it is a budget friendly option. So when we're looking
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: at the Nova and the supernova, which is their Supernova's
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: there three and a half inch chambered shotgun. They make
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: it in a three in the Nova and a three
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: and a half. You could get it in both. Uh,
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: you're looking at a five hundred dollars to six hundred
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: and fifty dollars price range. In most areas that you're gonna
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: go and shop the Nova, you'll find it.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: It's on shelves at stores.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: When you go to your local sporting good stores, you're
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: gonna find the Banelli Nova probably nine out of ten times,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: even compared to some of the other guns that I mentioned.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: You're gonna find the Browning SXP pump shotgun and you're
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: gonna find the Bonelli Nova. That's the two most common
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: that you're gonna see on shelves nowadays when you're looking
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: at a good quality pump shotgun for water five hunting.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: The eight seventy is a little tough for the fine.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: I'll mention that, and uh, you know the moss perg
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: It could be a little tough for the fine than
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: it used to be, which is shocking because that's two
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: brands that used to be on every shelf and every
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: sporting good store that you walked into. But the Banelli
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Nova five hundred dollars and six hundred and fifty dollars
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: price point. It is a modern day workhorse. I put
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: that myself. I phrase that myself. It's a modern day workhorse.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: The eight seventy is a legendary workhorse. The Banelli Nova
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: is a modern day workhorse. It is what the eight
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: seventy used to be and was known for for years.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: That is what Banelli has done with the Nova nowadays,
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: when you pull the trigger, it's gonna go boom.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: You could use it multi purpose.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: You could drag it through any environment that you can
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: put it through to duck hunt with, and it's going
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: to function and it's going to work.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Guys. Now, we'll tell you this.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: The Banelli Nova a little bit more kick on that
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: gun than some of the other ones out there. It's
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: it's a harder kicking gun than you're gonna see with
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: the eight seventy.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: With the Mossberg Moussburg kicks pretty good too, but.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: It's definitely gonna be harder recall than you're gonna see
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: with the eight seventy, you know, something like that. So
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: just prepare yourself on that. I do want I did
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: want to make a note of that. But warranty ten
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: year warranty guys on a pump shot gun, that's awesome.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Banelle offers a ten year warranty on and that is
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: really tough to be on a high I guess a
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: hiring priced pump shot gun with you know, a legendary
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: name behind it, legendary customer service behind it. You also
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: get ten years of warranty and that is the best
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: warranty on a pump shot gun that I've talked about
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: so far in this episode. So keep that in mind, guys,
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: But you really trust me, you can't go wrong with
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: a Bonelli Nova. Those of you who shoot it, you
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: know exactly what I'm talking about when I'm mentioning Benelli Nova,
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: and you'll attest to that.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: It's a workhorse.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: It's reliable, and it's more modern, it's more sleek, it's
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: kind of more cool.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: And a lot of.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: Guys they love that it has the Benelli name to it.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: They say, hey, what do you shoot? When every buddy
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: say what do you shoot? I shoot a Banelli, they're
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: not lying. Yeah, it's not a two thousand dollars Banelli
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Super Black Ego three, but it's still a Banelli at
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: the end of the day. And some people in this
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: sport love dropping names, name brands, you know, and that's
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: just the truth. Y'all know it. You know that's the
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: case sometimes. So yes, Banelle, you can get a Banelle.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: That's a great shot, you know, a great shooting shotgun
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: to a hunt ducks with in a pump format three
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: inch three and a half inch with a ten year warranty,
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: and that is extremely hard to beat. If you're looking
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: front of you shotgun to waterfowl hunt with in twenty twenty.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Six, guys, that runs out our list.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Now, I do have a sleeper for y'all, and I'm
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: gonna close out with this. I do have a sleeper
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: gun for you that you may say, Hey, what about
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: this brand? What about this brand? What about this gun?
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: And yeah, there's a ton of guns out there. There's
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: tons of Turkish built budget guns that are out there
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: on the market. We see we have house brands like
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Academy Sports and Outdoors that carry their own brands, that
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: have their own stuff out there, and there is a
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: ton of stuff out there that you know, you could
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: go out there and spend your money on. But these brands,
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: these particular models, these particular guns that I have talked
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: about in this episode is what I would look at
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: if I was purchasing.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: A gun in twenty twenty six.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: But there is a sleeper that I want to tell
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: you guys about, the Trystar Viper G two.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Try Star. You're gonna say, try Star. I know Trystar.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: I've seen that name, and yes you have.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Because if you go to any Walmart, any of your
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: local gun stores, privately owned gun stores.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: A lot of times you will see.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Try Star branded guns on the shelf and they are
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: a budget friendly gun. But I'm gonna tell you this, guys,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: and you're gonna say, well, they're Turkish made, They're not
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: worth of shit, Jacob.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: That's not true, guys.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Turkey makes some really good firearms and they import them
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: into the US.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of name brands.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: There's some guns on this list that are Turkish made,
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: manufactured that are sold under major brand names that I've
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: talked about on this list, such as weather Be. You know,
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: that's the one that I'll mention. You're gonna say, who
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: is Weatherby's one of them. So there are really well
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: made guns that you could get that are imported into
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: the US. So don't be afraid to stray away from
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: a budget friendly Turkish shotgun, specifically the Try Store Viper
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: G two. It's a gas driven platform. It's five hundred
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: and fifty dollars to seven hundred dollars guys. Yes, it
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: is kind of in that range of a Stoger and
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: the nursing driven and some of the pump shotguns that
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: we talked about. But you get a semi automatic waterfowlon
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: shotgun in the Try Store viper G two at the
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: price of what you're paying for a pump possibly. And
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: I could tell you that I have had people tell
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: me they own this gun, they shoot this gun, and
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: it is extremely reliable for a semi automatic, budget friendly shotgun.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: So it's not as well known as some of the
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: brands we talked about, but a lot of you probably
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: have seen Try Store and they have been around a
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: long time. I remember Try Store being in Walmarts and
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: other stores that I saw years ago, and I was
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: kind of like, I don't know about that, And I
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: remember some of my elder saying, don't buy that. That's
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: cheap made, that's not gonna last. You can't get parts
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: for it. Well, nowadays Try Starring you can get parts
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: for them.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: They have really good customer support. I've watched videos on
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: ere On experiences. People have their customer support and it
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: seems to be really really good from what I hear.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: It's a company here in the US you're gonna deal with.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: If you need customer support. You could send the firearms
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: back to them, make repairs, come back. You could go
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: ahead get parts for them. Now from what I understand
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: and one of the main things that I hear people
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: talk about when it comes to this specific gun, the
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: G two is the softness of the shooting. I'm sorry
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: I had to look down at my court because I
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: thought I missed the point. But the softness of the shooting,
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: the recoil. It's a gas driven gun, it should be
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: softer than an inertia driven platform. But they tell me
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: that of all the gas guns that they've had experience
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: with that the softness the recoil on the viper is
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: really really good.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: It's a soft shooting shotgun.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: So for somebody who's maybe looking at having a youth
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: maybe move up into a twelve gage, or maybe it's
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: a female hunter.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's a female hunter.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: That you don't want to have that blast of that
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: recall tearing them up. You know, maybe this is a
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: good option for you to be able to take a
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: look at if you have an opportunity to maybe go
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: out and test one, shoot it, shoot the buddies that
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: as one see for yourself what you think.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: It may be a great option guys in that version.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: And on top of that, for an imported shotgun, it
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: comes with a five year warranty. So try Star is
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: really backing up this gun with a superb warranty five years.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: They have customer support there to handle it if you
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: need it. They have parts availability there if you need
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: it to be able to get a part, and you
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: have a five year warranty to go along with your purchase.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: At a price point coming in at five point fifty
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: to seven hundred dollars on a semi automatic shotgun, that
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: is something that you seriously have to look at if
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: you're looking at buying a new.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Shotgun guys, for waterfowl hunting.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: So I wanted to put that on there as a
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: sleeper model for you guys to be able to look at,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: research it if you're looking and purchasing a new gun
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: and check them out.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Check out Trystar.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: Something I want to mention, I have no affiliation whatsoever
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: with any of these brands that I've talked about in
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: this episode, and that will tell you right there, guys,
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: that it is from personal experience of me using these brands,
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: using some of these models I talked about, and then
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: also just my feedback from people that I've hunted with
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: that have these guns, have these brands, and also researching
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: these brands to see what other people like us, other
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: hunters are saying out there, from reviews, from you know,
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: YouTube videos, from just any kind of feedback I could get.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Before I put out this episode, I researched some of
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: the ones that I wasn't as familiar with, and I
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: really did my due diligence and trying to give you
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: accurate information and you know, responses from what people say
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: about these guns. So this is my budget list for
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six right now as we sit here in
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: the off season in what we're in August right now,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: getting ready to head in until season next month.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: But if you are in the market for a.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Budget shotgun, guys, these are some I would recommend to
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: go out there, take a look at, see what you think,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Hold them, play with them a little bit in the store,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: see what you think the actions feel like, are they balance,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: do they fit you well?
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: The length you know on them, all that type of
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: stuff that's.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: Important when it comes to waterfowl hunting and you shooting
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: as accurately as possible. Does it meet your needs, but
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: more importantly, does it meet your budget?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: And is it something that you can see as an
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: investment to spend.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Your hard to earn cash and money on for a
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: waterfoul shotgun that's going to be reliable and enjoyable to shoot.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: I hope this helped you guys.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: Like I said, please please please leave comments down below
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: because I want to know if you guys are using
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: some of these models we talked about in this episode.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Leave your feedback on it for other people to be
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: able to read.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: Lets let them know what your experience has been with
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: these brands so they can make a smart buying decision
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: that meets their knees and budget. And we want to
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: know what's your experience been with them. We want to
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: know as a community. But I think this is something
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: that could really help people that are looking at buying
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: a new gun this season, or maybe looking at getting
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: into waterfoul hunting and they don't know where to start,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: and they're on a budget and they need to know
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: a place to start.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: This is a great starting point.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: And some of the brands and models that I think
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: could definitely be something that they can look at and
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: benefit from. So I think you guys so much for
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: tuning in on this episode.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: Guys. As always, this is always fun when we get
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: to sit.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: Back talk waterfoul hunting, and especially when it comes to gear.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: I love doing gear reviews. I love talking about gear
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, we all love
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: waterfowl hunting gear, right, we all in it.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: We all love all the new gear.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: Hell, look at all the big expos that are going
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: on this time of year right now with the Duck Show,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: the du Show, all that type of stuff, the Delta
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: Waterfoul Shows, all that type of stuff. U man, it
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: is awesome. All this gear that comes out nowadays. There's
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: a lot of money you could drop it on waterfowl hunting.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: It is not a cheap sport to get into by
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: any means. It's not a cheap hobby, whatever you want
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: to call it. People jump on me all the time
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: about calling it a sport, calling a hobby. They always
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: try to correct me on that. Whatever you want to
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: call it, call it that. But there's a lot of money.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: My point is that we could put into this, so
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: spend it wisely. Spend it on equipment that's going to
• 1:02:27
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