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Tom Zawistowski - WeThePeopleConvention.org · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Chuck Kingram fifty five k the talk station.
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  Speaker 2: It is seven thirty almost seven thirty three fifty five
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  Speaker 2: Krcity Talk station. A little bit along with Peter ronson.
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  Speaker 2: That's okay. Tom's Awastowski understands. We the People Convention dot
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  Speaker 2: Org is where you find Tom's website. Check out his podcast.
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  Speaker 2: He's got a new one every week, always talking about
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  Speaker 2: matters that are very important to this to the state
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  Speaker 2: of Ohio. Tom's Awastowski, Welcome back, my friend. Great having
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  Speaker 2: you on.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, really great to be on. And what a fascinating,
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  Speaker 1: you know, conversation about you know, the riots in Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 1: and it just riveting radio to get the details and
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  Speaker 1: remember we just we just forget so much of what happened,
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, what a scam that was, What a total
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  Speaker 1: scam that was.
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  Speaker 2: It does certainly as Peter boils down the faction information,
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  Speaker 2: it certainly sounds that way and feel like we've relived
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  Speaker 2: that thing over and over again since ninety war, since
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  Speaker 2: the riots here in two thousand and one. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we we can look at any number of the riots
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  Speaker 2: that have gone on, and it seems to me there's
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  Speaker 2: always some one who jumps out purporting to be the
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  Speaker 2: leader of the community and whose word is taken a gospel.
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  Speaker 2: And I've commented about this many times. There is no
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  Speaker 2: single human being, don't care what color his or her
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  Speaker 2: skin is, who can represent Brian Thomas. I speak for myself.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody speaks for themselves. There isn't one size fits all
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to you know, people's reactions to any
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  Speaker 2: given situation. And it irks me to no end that
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  Speaker 2: local media treats it like gospel.
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  Speaker 1: Whoa Yo.
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  Speaker 2: Sharpton said it, therefore the black community must agree with it. No,
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  Speaker 2: Damian Lynch said it, Therefore the black community must agree
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  Speaker 2: with it. No, there are people out there that don't.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, yeah, that's the group identity politics nonsense
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  Speaker 1: that has really destroyed our culture for you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: ten twenty thirty years, and we've got to overcome that.
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  Speaker 1: You know. That's why I was great to see the astronaut,
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  Speaker 1: you know, who made a statement about the fact that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't really want to talk about the
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  Speaker 1: fact that I'm a black astronaut or a female astronaut.
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  Speaker 1: We're humans. We want to talk about, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: doctor Martin the King said, the content of your character.
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  Speaker 2: Not the aim on Tom Zawistowski, I wish we could
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  Speaker 2: return to that because it seems to me that you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's one of those well, turn about is fair play.
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  Speaker 2: Because there was systemic racism, because there was ill treatment,
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  Speaker 2: because blacks were deprived of life and liberty and equal
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  Speaker 2: treatment under the law, then it makes it okay to
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  Speaker 2: well respond in kind. And two wrongs never make a right.
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  Speaker 2: We have made so much by way of racial development
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  Speaker 2: and harmony and healing over the years, and to throw
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  Speaker 2: that all away, which seems like the direction we're going,
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  Speaker 2: it just it's heart It's heartbreaking, Tom, is really the
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  Speaker 2: only way I can characterize it, absolutely heartbreaking.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I agree we must reject that and move past it,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, we were on that path and we
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  Speaker 1: got sidetracked, but we can get back there again. And
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  Speaker 1: and the way you do that is you do things
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  Speaker 1: like vote right. You know, you know, what do we
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  Speaker 1: do collectively? You know, it's not the color of your
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  Speaker 1: skin or your ethnic background or whatever is starting, and
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  Speaker 1: you've got to participate if you want to be equal
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  Speaker 1: citizens and have an equal role in what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, most people don't even know briant to
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  Speaker 1: election started today.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and that's where we're gonna pause. That's a nice
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  Speaker 2: tease for what we're gonna talk about. Coming back, Tom Zawastowski,
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  Speaker 2: we'll be right back with Tom after I mentioned USA
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  Speaker 2: at eight pm this night tonight, unless Donald Trump change
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  Speaker 2: the deadline or they wake up. In the meantime, Tom Zawastowski,
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  Speaker 2: we the People Convention dot Org's on the phone to
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  Speaker 2: talk about Hey, talk about voting. We've got a primary
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  Speaker 2: coming up. Did you know that?
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  Speaker 1: Tom? I think that most people didn't know it, and
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  Speaker 1: they sure didn't know it. You can actually vote today.
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  Speaker 1: You can go to the Hamilton County Board of Elections
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  Speaker 1: today and if you're registered, you can vote from May
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  Speaker 1: till five. And that's kind of you know, every weekday
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  Speaker 1: until you get to you know, the elections supposedly already
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  Speaker 1: the election is May fifth, but you can vote early.
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  Speaker 1: It's you know, starting today, and then as you get
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  Speaker 1: close to the election, you can vote in person early
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday and Sunday, May second and third, so you
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  Speaker 1: know it's already started. And then you know, we still
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  Speaker 1: have mail in voting, which I'm not a big fan of,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a simple process. If you go to the
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  Speaker 1: Hamilton County or the you know, whether it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: Butler or Claremont or whichever Warren County Board of Elections,
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  Speaker 1: and you first have to request an application, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: so you can get a ballot. So you go to
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  Speaker 1: their website, you can download the application to get a ballot,
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  Speaker 1: You fill it out, you send it in, they verify
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  Speaker 1: you're a registered voter, and then they send you a
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  Speaker 1: ballot and the mail you fill that out, you send
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  Speaker 1: it in. But then the thing that's really changed is
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  Speaker 1: it it's got to be there by election day in Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, you got to either drop it off
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  Speaker 1: in a drop box or you got to mail it in.
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  Speaker 1: But that's an important thing is there'll be no counting
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  Speaker 1: after election day here in Ohio and that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: So so that's the process. Vote in person now, vote
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  Speaker 1: you know by mail now, or you know, vote on
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  Speaker 1: election day May fifth. And there's some important races that
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  Speaker 1: we can talk about. But the bottom line is your
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  Speaker 1: responsibility to vote if you want to. You want to
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  Speaker 1: be able to choose who's done the general election. Now
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  Speaker 1: it in November. You got to vote in the primary.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, someone brought it up earlier today. The
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  Speaker 2: primary is sometimes even more important than the general election.
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  Speaker 2: If you're dissatisfied with your party's candidate, someone who's got
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  Speaker 2: great name recognition, maybe you know, one of the Blue
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  Speaker 2: twenty two for example. I think you Jay brought that
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  Speaker 2: up earlier this morning. You can vote for somebody else.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're going to steer the direction of your
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  Speaker 2: party in a different way, it's the primary is where
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  Speaker 2: you do it.
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  Speaker 1: It's no important. I mean, it's been amazing me, says
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  Speaker 1: I've been in the Tea party. What a difficult concept
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  Speaker 1: that is for people everybody, you know, I mean, what's
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  Speaker 1: the turnout going to be ran? And like ten percent
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  Speaker 1: of voters are going to vote in the primary, and
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  Speaker 1: it should be like one hundred percent, because this is
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  Speaker 1: when we the people actually have a choice, and then
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  Speaker 1: in the general, you know, you're kind of stuck between
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  Speaker 1: the two parties and it's just not the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, people just don't understand that, and that's
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  Speaker 1: why we're talking about it on your show this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Tom's aust asking we the people can mention dot org.
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  Speaker 2: What are some of the highlights in the primary that
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  Speaker 2: you would like to bring up some of the races. Mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of folks are very familiar that
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  Speaker 2: you've got vv Ramaswami and Casey putsch Is options on
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  Speaker 2: the Republican side. I see also, though on my list
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  Speaker 2: here that Heather Hill and Stuart Motes running. I've never
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  Speaker 2: even heard of Heather Hill or Stuart MoES. So there
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  Speaker 2: are people running for governor and lieutenant governor that I'm
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  Speaker 2: not even familiar with. There's libertarian candidates on the list. So,
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  Speaker 2: but which which of the races are really truly important
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  Speaker 2: to you and your comments on them? Tom?
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  Speaker 1: Now, I'll tell you you know a couple of things
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  Speaker 1: that are interesting. First of all, I'm disappointed that there's
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  Speaker 1: not more competition in some races, like, for instance, for
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  Speaker 1: governor Amy Actin's running unopposed as a Democrat. In you know,
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  Speaker 1: Attorney General Keith Favors running on a post for attorney
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  Speaker 1: General as a Republican. You've got the same thing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with Auditor of State. Neither candidate Frank Larrose a Republican,
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  Speaker 1: or Annette Blackwell has an opponent, So you know, I
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  Speaker 1: wish there was more competition. The one race that I
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  Speaker 1: find really interesting is a sectary of state. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you and I have talked about Robert Sprague and Marcel Sturbage.
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  Speaker 1: But on the Democrat side, this Alison Russo against Brian Hambley,
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  Speaker 1: I think is a race that more people should be
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  Speaker 1: paying attention to because I'm really worried about this Brian
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  Speaker 1: Hamley guy. He's from Cincinnati, right, He's a guy, he's
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  Speaker 1: a doctor from Cincinnati, and I'm afraid that this guy
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  Speaker 1: is a George Soros guy and they're going to make
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  Speaker 1: a big move to take over the Ohio Secretary of
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  Speaker 1: State's office. I'm watching his fundraising. He's raised like eight
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars compared to Russo six hundred thousand,
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  Speaker 1: and he's got an organizational footprint in Ohio because he
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  Speaker 1: was involved with the effort to change the redistricting in Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just worried that they're going to put a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of money into that race, and they're going to
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  Speaker 1: try to steal the Secretary of States race, and we
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  Speaker 1: should be keeping.
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  Speaker 2: An eye on that well, I mean considering Sprague. In
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  Speaker 2: this case, Sprague is the one with the name recognition
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  Speaker 2: on the Republican side of the ledger. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Republican side is going to be well served if
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  Speaker 2: either Sprague or Marcel Sturbrits gets elected Secretary of State
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  Speaker 2: in terms of your political tea leave for reading, though,
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  Speaker 2: Tom Zawastowski, who would stand a better chance of beating
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  Speaker 2: Brian Hambley if he in fact gets a Democratic nod.
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  Speaker 1: Well, see, I had a sit down with Robert Sprague.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he knows that I endorse Marshall Serbis, but
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  Speaker 1: he's still came and met with me this tam and
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  Speaker 1: and and so that's exactly right, And he and we've
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  Speaker 1: endorsed Robert in two prior elections. But I still felt,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you agree, that Marcel Service is better qualified.
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  Speaker 1: The question for us is what happens after the primary.
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  Speaker 1: And what I was probing Robert on was hey, are
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  Speaker 1: there these is there going to be money behind you
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  Speaker 1: if you if you win the promary primary, what's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen? And what he told me was frightening, and
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  Speaker 1: that is that really that the Vekra Maswami is just
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  Speaker 1: sucking up all the fundraising in the state, and that
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  Speaker 1: that there's he does not think he's going to have
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  Speaker 1: more than like a million dollars to run after the primary.
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  Speaker 1: That's nowhere near enough, nowhere near enough. Sorows could drop
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  Speaker 1: ten million dollars in the Secretary of State rate in
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  Speaker 1: a heartbeat. And so I'm concerned that we're not looking
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  Speaker 1: at it like a Republican party. And I know Alex
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  Speaker 1: Tailfalo is doing a good job as chairman. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he's got fund that they're going to be trying to
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  Speaker 1: turn out the vote. But I'm worried about the money
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  Speaker 1: situation because I saw if a ak has raised like
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  Speaker 1: twenty million dollars compared to Amy Actons like five. But
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  Speaker 1: on the Senate race between you know, Sharon Brown and
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  Speaker 1: in John Houston, Sharon Brown has raised double the money
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  Speaker 1: is John Houston. That's a warning to.
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  Speaker 2: Me, that's a national race right there, that's what that's
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  Speaker 2: what that means. Money is coming in from the four
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  Speaker 2: corners of the United States of America, and of course
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  Speaker 2: big liberal donors like Soros and other well connected, big
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  Speaker 2: fat money donors, they are certainly going to back that.
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  Speaker 2: Sharon Brown on that one. That's that's a frightening one
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  Speaker 2: right there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we've got to get the message out. It's just
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  Speaker 1: real simple. It's not really on the Republican side about
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  Speaker 1: the candidates, it really isn't we have to vote for
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  Speaker 1: every Republican who's got a pulse because the threat from
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  Speaker 1: the left it's just clear. I mean, it's unbelievable to
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  Speaker 1: me that they're either so stupid so brazen that you know,
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  Speaker 1: we have congressmen saying, oh yeah, if we win in November,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to impeach Trump, Like the next day, who
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  Speaker 1: wants that? And what kind of messages that to their voters?
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  Speaker 1: Like how does that lower your prices? How does it
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  Speaker 1: lower your energy? How does it help our country if
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  Speaker 1: you're going to impeach Trump? Like what does that mean
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  Speaker 1: to me? Even as a Democratic voter? Not much? That's frightening.
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  Speaker 1: Our message is we got to elect every Republican we
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  Speaker 1: can because they're out to destroy our country. We're out
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  Speaker 1: to say that.
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  Speaker 2: Tom, hold on a second, So want to ask you
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  Speaker 2: about that, because last time I look, Hilo's a pretty
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  Speaker 2: solid red state. Do the Democrats really stand a chance
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  Speaker 2: and taking over some of these these races? Let's pause
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  Speaker 2: ring Tom back see the talk station seven fifty one.
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  Speaker 2: If you've have KERCD talk station. Elections matter and primaries
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  Speaker 2: really matter a lot if you want to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe rethink the direction of your party. Multiple different Republican candidates,
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  Speaker 2: multiple different Democratic candidates running for various offices, and of
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  Speaker 2: course you don't like who you got, don't vote for
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  Speaker 2: the same person, but you got to be there and
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  Speaker 2: vote in the primary to make that happen. Says Tom's Alastowski.
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  Speaker 2: We either people convention dot org any of the other
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  Speaker 2: races jump at well first, Tom, concerned about some of
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  Speaker 2: these races. Obviously you're a little concerned. You mentioned a
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  Speaker 2: couple of them, but this is Ohio. I mean for
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  Speaker 2: a state wide election like stech, secretary of state or treasurer.
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  Speaker 2: Do the Democrats really stand a chance of winning? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: have we moved that far? Maybe purple in the state
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  Speaker 2: of Ohio or is this maybe an overblown concern?
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  Speaker 1: Tom Well, I think you're accurate and that we are
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  Speaker 1: a red state. So what's the problem. The problem is turnout.
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  Speaker 1: The problem is will our voters that came out because
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  Speaker 1: Trump was on the ballot in twenty twenty four will
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  Speaker 1: they turn out in twenty twenty six when Trump's not
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  Speaker 1: on the ballot. And there's some real concern about that,
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  Speaker 1: and that's why we've been talking like I've been talking.
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  Speaker 1: I think you probably picked up on that. The Baker
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  Speaker 1: Maswami is running ads about property taxes and how he's
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  Speaker 1: going to roll them back, but he doesn't really announce
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  Speaker 1: a plan. Because we've got to have an issue that
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  Speaker 1: will turn our people out, and we think I think
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  Speaker 1: that theyke thinks it's property taxes, But I think we've
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  Speaker 1: got to have something on the ballot in November that
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  Speaker 1: will get our people to turn out, because if we don't,
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  Speaker 1: that's where the left can steal an election by spending
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  Speaker 1: a lot of money on something like the Secretary of
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  Speaker 1: States race, which is their way of getting underneath it
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  Speaker 1: all to start to change the state that you know,
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  Speaker 1: back to their direction, like they did when Jennifer Bruner
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  Speaker 1: with Secretary of State and things like that. So we
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  Speaker 1: got to get turnout. That's the bottom line. You could
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  Speaker 1: be a red state. But if you don't show up,
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  Speaker 1: that's true. What happens they win.
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  Speaker 2: And what really drives me crazy is that so much inertia,
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  Speaker 2: just driven by Trump de rangement syndrome, that is enough
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  Speaker 2: to get the Democrats off the couch and out and voting.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. And they don't have a policy because it's
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  Speaker 1: a TV show, right, Yeah, watch a TV show. Oh
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  Speaker 1: so it's worked both ways against.
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  Speaker 2: Us, it does. But I mean they don't have a program,
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  Speaker 2: a plan, and nothing other than you know, increasing taxes
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  Speaker 2: and creating more sanctuary cities or whatever the hell they
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  Speaker 2: want to do with their liberal policies, nothing really flies.
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  Speaker 2: Most of them are sort of eighty twenty issues, most
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  Speaker 2: notably with regard to illegal immigration, so they're on the
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  Speaker 2: losing side of that. But is simply stated, evil orange
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  Speaker 2: Man is enough to drive Democratic voters to show up,
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  Speaker 2: even if he's got nothing to do with the underlying
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  Speaker 2: issues or or office that's being sought in the primary.
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  Speaker 1: Well see, and then you combine that with you know,
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  Speaker 1: one hundred million share Brown. How much money is Sharon
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  Speaker 1: Brown going to spend telling lies? Right? Campaigning him is
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  Speaker 1: something he totally is not right, I'm moderate and all that.
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  Speaker 1: You know his you know, like his wife isn't really
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  Speaker 1: a card carrying communists, right, I mean, it's insane they're
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  Speaker 1: going to be running these ads. Or he's just a
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  Speaker 1: most wonderful person. How do you overcome that? And that's
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  Speaker 1: where Trump is so strong because he just goes right
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  Speaker 1: at it. But boy, you know, you can fool a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people with a lot of propaganda, as we've
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  Speaker 1: seen unfortunately all over this country.
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  Speaker 2: And tom propaganda only works if you are an uninformed voter.
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  Speaker 2: That's the problem. These statements that they make in these
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  Speaker 2: campaign ads usually buy packs as opposed to you, unless
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  Speaker 2: the candidate actually says, I'm so and so and I
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  Speaker 2: endorse this message. It's a political action committee. They run
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  Speaker 2: really rough shot over facts when they run pack ads,
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  Speaker 2: and that people could be swayed by that. That's the
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  Speaker 2: whole thing that bothers me so much. That money can
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  Speaker 2: actually really effectively influence politics if you're paying attention throughout
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  Speaker 2: the year, if you're one of those weed dwellers, like
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  Speaker 2: I consider myself. You can see through the veneer of
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  Speaker 2: the lies that they are chucking at you, and you
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  Speaker 2: just kind of costs it aside and say, who could
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  Speaker 2: ever believe that? Well, you got to have the underlying
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  Speaker 2: information in order to know what's truth from fiction.
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  Speaker 1: You bet. I'll tell you a fun story. I actually
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  Speaker 1: looked into starting a thing called Political AI and one
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  Speaker 1: of my dreams was to have a phone app where
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  Speaker 1: you could kind of just hold your phone up to
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  Speaker 1: the TV when a commercial was playing, and it would
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  Speaker 1: be a BS detector and tell them exactly what they're
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  Speaker 1: saying is wrong or right right there while you're watching
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: the TV ads, because it's all lies and people forget.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Ohio used to have a law that you could not
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: lie in political advertising, and the Supreme Court overturned that
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: and said lying in political ads is free speech.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: It is uh, get out and vote. We the people
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: at convention dot org. Tom's on top of everything. Stay
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: in touch with Tom and we'll have him back on
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: the program real soon. I appreciate the powerful message get
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: out and vote.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Tom.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Thanks very much for your time today. We'll talk again soon.