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- 0:03You're listening to Why we do what we do? Welcome to Why we do
- 0:16what we do. I'm your host Abraham, and I'm your host Shane.
- 0:20And this is a why we do what we do? Mini, not a
- 0:22full episode, just a quick jaunt down the road of inquiry. Yeah,
- 0:26you know, sometimes we just have questions and we have to get those questions
- 0:29answered. And now we have working knowledge about this thing, so we can
- 0:32go to parties and have nice trivia. Exactly I said road of inquiry.
- 0:37Maybe cul de sac is a more appropriate way to describe the journey that we're
- 0:41going on today. This is quick. Yeah, Like instead of an ocean
- 0:44of information, we're going into an inlet yeah at best, Yeah, I
- 0:49right, coy ponds, maybe a canal, yeah yeah, a puddle of
- 0:53inquiry. And today we're asking the question does stress turn our hair gray?
- 0:58This is something that I've sort of wondered up and wanted to look into the
- 1:00research and see what's there. It's something I have personal stake in. My
- 1:04hair is definitely turning gray. Fortunately, from the quality of the video,
- 1:07if you're seeing this on video, you can't really tell that, but Shane's
- 1:11beard gives it away. Yeah, my beard, and I'm wearing a hat
- 1:15right now. And I have taken pictures of my hair over the last like
- 1:19couple of years, and it has gotten gray rapidly. Yeah, it is
- 1:23really kind of bizarre how quick my hair is going gray. It's very much
- 1:26so like the crash Test Dummy song fun. Once there was a kid who
- 1:32got into an accident and couldn't go to school, but when he came,
- 1:34when he finally came back, his hair went from black into bright white.
- 1:40I don't know if y'all remember that that moral. I don't, but that's
- 1:42really fun. I like it. You don't remember that song? No?
- 1:48No, I think I might recognize it if I like listen to it,
- 1:49But it does not ring any bells right now. You don't need to hear
- 1:53it. It's fine, okay, all right? So does stress turn our
- 1:59hair? Well? First, I think there's an important discussion to be had
- 2:01about what stress is. This is probably a larger discussion that may warrant a
- 2:07full topic, maybe another many who knows, but just just to define it
- 2:10really quick. The World Health Organization WHO yes, exactly define stress as a
- 2:16state of worry or mental tension caused by difficult situations. But worrying and difficult
- 2:22situations are arbitrary and language based. But we do know that non human animals
- 2:27demonstrate no use of language. We already kind of see that to degree humans
- 2:30do. But non human animals can get stressed, and we do know that
- 2:35they can get stressed through different kind of behavioral science. Yeah, so sort
- 2:38of more broadly, we can characterize stress as contexts that we are highly motivated
- 2:44to escape. And you could also sort of add to that, just as
- 2:46a little more detail, that these are contexts in which there are often many
- 2:51threats that bad things will happen. Now, those threats can be tangible,
- 2:53such as standing on the edge of a cliff you can easily see the possible
- 2:58danger there, or it can be pursued through a history of association, and
- 3:01an example of that might be someone who is threatening you with harmful action.
- 3:06Now, the latter doesn't mean too much to non languaging organisms, although tone
- 3:10like loud and aggressive tones can carry the meaning for organisms like yelling at an
- 3:15animal, loud warning sounds from other animals. Those are different examples of like
- 3:19what might produce some kind of like stressors in the environment. Actually super interesting
- 3:23too. I don't know, if you've gotten to this and this is probably
- 3:24like an episode on stress that lots to do, you can actually measure stress
- 3:28in blood. There's like some indicator in blood that they use to measure like
- 3:32levels of stress, and I can't remember what it is, but we'll have
- 3:35to talk about that at some point in time. Stress Blood could be a
- 3:38band named stress Blood. Yeah, it probably is somewhere. So if you
- 3:40are in the band's stress Blood, please email us. Well, we'll share
- 3:44your demo. Indeed, I actually just do a search on band camp and
- 3:47see if what comes up when I type in stress Blood. I'm going to
- 3:53do that right now while we go through this episode. Great. So,
- 3:55the age old wisdom is that constant exposure, even and acute exposure to stress
- 4:00can turn our hair gray. Usually this is prolonged sort of, this is
- 4:05over time, and this sort of constant ongoing stress, and an example commonly
- 4:10cited is like having kids. But this can include these acute, high intensity,
- 4:15one time events sort of shocking your hair into a gray or white sort
- 4:19of color, if you will. That's to be clear, I'm not saying
- 4:23that's science sort of fact right now. I'm saying that's sort of the conventional
- 4:27wisdom about this. Yeah, there's a story that I think of here.
- 4:30There's a castle in the Czech Republic called Castle Huska, which is supposed to
- 4:33be like the Haunted Castle. There's a portal to Hell in the middle of
- 4:36it, and there's an old story about they lowered a servant down into the
- 4:41hole to see what was going on, and when they brought him back up,
- 4:44his hair had turned from like a dark color to a bright white because
- 4:46of all the acute stress he experienced in that several minutes that he was down
- 4:50in the hole. So it's kind of an ongoing discussion, like when these
- 4:55big, shocking one time events, they immediately change your hair, But we
- 4:59have to ask the question if there's any truth to it, and until recently
- 5:01many scientists didn't really think so. Now that's not to say that stress isn't
- 5:05harmless. The deleteriousness of stress has been well known for a long time,
- 5:11for a very very long time, just it wasn't thought to be actually responsible
- 5:15for graying hair. So we know there was other effects, like it impacts
- 5:18your heart and like the you know, just how your body moves and how
- 5:21your brain process and stuff. But we didn't really know if it impacted hair,
- 5:26but now we have some information. Yes, So we'll talk more about
- 5:30what we know about stressedness relation to grain hair after we get to hear some
- 5:33ads for maybe hair dye. Okay, we're back. So the spoiler or
- 5:46the big giveaway, the big reveal is apparently stressed can actually cause hair to
- 5:51turn gray. Now, although genetics and age contribute to the gradual grain of
- 5:57one's hair, as we sort of get old in our body, no longer
- 5:59pretty is the pigment that would keep our hair a particular color, stress can
- 6:02speed up that process considerably. Yes, so at twenty twenty study by Jang
- 6:08at All and fifteen other at alls in this one. So there's a lot
- 6:10of at all. So I think any of those authors on that we're not
- 6:13expecting to be part of that title, they would have had it. But
- 6:15they showed an intense acute stress and mice cause their hair to rapidly gray.
- 6:20I thought that was really interesting. Yeah. Now, hair that has already
- 6:25grown does not seem to turn gray once it's grown, it seems to sort
- 6:28of form in its color. But our hair grows fairly rapidly, and the
- 6:32hair that's being produced at the follicle will start to turn gray, and then
- 6:35it'll just continue producing gray hair. So essentially it'll be brown and then it'll
- 6:40gray out as it gets longer, or if it's cut then it'll go from
- 6:44having partial color and partially gray to being just gray. When the colored part
- 6:47gets cut away or if it naturally falls out, for example, then as
- 6:51that follicle reproduces, the future hair will all be gray. What they discovered
- 6:56is that stress caused a significant release of the neurotransmitter nor adrenaline or nora epinephrine.
- 7:02I said that on the first try, How cool is that you did?
- 7:04That was great, which rapidly wiped out pigment producing stem cells called melanocytes
- 7:12in the hair follicles. So those, as you said, those are the
- 7:15stem cells, and those are sort of the little factories, if you will,
- 7:17that are producing pigments melanin specifically, and there's actually multiple types of melanin
- 7:21that are responsible for the variety of hair color that you might see. So
- 7:25you have eumu lanin and fiamal lanin are the types of melanin, and so
- 7:31those are essentially responsible for if you sort of balance the levels of those or
- 7:36the depending on how much there is of each one. It sort of ranges
- 7:40from the black brown color to sort of a red brown color. But there's
- 7:43also a mutation on a certain receptor, which is melanocortin one or MC one
- 7:48R that will result in the red hair. So there's that sort of mutation
- 7:53that can happen. So those two types of melanin are sort of responsible for
- 7:57the variety of hair colors that we see across people. We always knew those
- 8:01red hairs were a result of a mutation. Oh poor redheader of folks.
- 8:07They get so much flat, and I don't understand why. It's true,
- 8:09it's the whole thing. Now. Essentially, the stress killed the economy in
- 8:11ourselves, and so the pigment factories closed and everyone had to go home.
- 8:16That's what it was. The factory closed down. Now it's just a ghost
- 8:20town. So your gray hairs are just ghost towns. But the hair factory
- 8:24stayed open, the actual machinery stayed open, and they just couldn't produce any
- 8:26color any longer. So your hair is still growing, it just can't do
- 8:30the thing that it used to do. Yeah, that's sort of the analogy
- 8:33version of this is that the economy tanked. Wow, the hair was going
- 8:37to keep going. It just wasn't gonna be colorful any longer. But right
- 8:41as a counter to this, all is not lost. So that first study
- 8:43we referenced was in twenty twenty there was a second study in twenty twenty one
- 8:48following up. Because that first study obviously was with mice. The second study
- 8:52was actually looking at humans and found that a reduction in stress actually caused some
- 8:56of these melleno sites to become active again and they started producing pigment. And
- 9:01what they found was in their study, one person as an example, who
- 9:05went on vacation returned and five of their previously gray hairs had returned to the
- 9:09normal color. So what they essentially suggested was that the signs of aging that
- 9:15are or stress that are prevalent in the grain of our hair can actually be
- 9:20somewhat reverse. Now, over time, that pigment is going to continue to
- 9:22just shut down slowly, and like you're going to eventually grow go gray.
- 9:26As our hair follicles just get it's harder and harder for them to produce that
- 9:30pigment. But if we're young enough and we could be producing that pigment if
- 9:35we can have a less stressful life. The evidence seems to suggest that we
- 9:39might get some of the color back in our hair. I love that.
- 9:41So basically what this is is like a vacation is a bailout for the factory.
- 9:46There you go. I like that. That's that's That's exactly it.
- 9:50The vacation is the government bailout. It's the factory because the workers get to
- 9:54work, yeah for a while, until they retire. Yeah, until they
- 9:58retire, which is, you know, just a couple of years down the
- 10:00road, hopefully. So the evidence suggests that stress can in fact cause our
- 10:05hair to become gray as it starts wiping out the pigment producing stem cells.
- 10:09But we can recover some of that if we get enough of a government bailout
- 10:13for the factories of our hair cells. I love it perfect Well, then
- 10:18I think we've accomplished well we set out to accomplish. This mini is out.
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