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8-05-26 Hour 1 - Broncos Camp Day 4 reaction/Roadblocks stopping new stadium/NFL record projections · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: Out the Field app Yeah, well he'll be fine. No updates.
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  Speaker 3: Outside of the defense dominating yesterday for the second straight day.
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  Speaker 3: The big news was in the first inside run drill,
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  Speaker 3: the first nine on seven that we saw in a
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  Speaker 3: padded practice Yessuary. We spent four hours saying that there
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  Speaker 3: weren't gonna be in pads, and everyone showed up in
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  Speaker 3: Guardian caps as we walk in into Moja Lombardy and
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  Speaker 3: Kane Raj filling in for Kaner alongside Vic and Moje.
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  Speaker 3: The story of the day yesterday, on the second play
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  Speaker 3: on inside run, Nick Benino gets rolled up on. He
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  Speaker 3: goes down onto the ground, stays down there for about
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  Speaker 3: five minutes, and then hobbles off the field under his
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  Speaker 3: own power, but being aided by team doctors and physicians.
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  Speaker 3: He left practice. He did not return, but Sean Payton says.
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  Speaker 2: Peyton Hill, He's fine, He's gonna be okay, But he
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  Speaker 2: looked scared. He was on the ground. He was laying
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  Speaker 2: on his back, for a good five to ten minutes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't move. He's sitting there, as you know,
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  Speaker 2: when you're sitting there and you just uh, you're you're
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  Speaker 2: in that mode like, oh god, I hope this isn't bad. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: you're resigned to the fact that I just got hurt.
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  Speaker 2: I hope it's not bad. And the trainers are around him.
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  Speaker 2: And then he managed to limp off the field on
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  Speaker 2: his own power, so it wasn't as bad as he
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  Speaker 2: thought he was.
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  Speaker 3: The good news is moj that so Vic saw it
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  Speaker 3: from Were you sitting on the west side, underneath the
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  Speaker 3: right behind it?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 3: So I was sitting behind the defense next to coach Sandford.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't see it happen, but what I did see
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  Speaker 3: was that there was a crush of bodies. This injury,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it was, was not no contact, right, This was
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  Speaker 3: a contact injury.
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  Speaker 2: It was the very first play of nine on seven,
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  Speaker 2: the very first play, that's when it happened. And he
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  Speaker 2: just got rolled up on that's it, as you just expressed,
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  Speaker 2: and he's gonna be fine. I think we'd know by
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  Speaker 2: now if there was something without a doubt. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I I just it's a bad ankle and he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: have to deal with it for the rest of the Campbell.
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  Speaker 2: See if he's even out here today. If he's if
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  Speaker 2: he's in practice, then it's nothing. If he's not practicing,
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  Speaker 2: then it's something you have to work. You have to
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  Speaker 2: get the work in, You've got to do the work,
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  Speaker 2: You've got to practice these things.
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  Speaker 4: But if you're an NFL head coach at this point, right,
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  Speaker 4: and you see it all around the league, I've been talking.
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  Speaker 2: I've been talking about it. Yeah, it's just I.
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  Speaker 4: Think every day when you walk out here, you hold
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  Speaker 4: your breath that something freak doesn't happen. Is anybody trying
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  Speaker 4: to roll up on anybody? The answer is no, nobody's
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  Speaker 4: trying to roll up on a teammate. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: one of the best pass rushers in the league and
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  Speaker 4: send him out for the year.
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  Speaker 2: I've had you try to roll up on me other Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: well you probably deserved it.
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  Speaker 4: But the fact of the matter is is that this
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  Speaker 4: is football, man, and that's going to happen. Rock You've
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  Speaker 4: seen it a million times in hockey. You're you're skating
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  Speaker 4: around a practice, right, guys collide You're like, how the
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  Speaker 4: hell does that happen, you sort of hold your breath
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  Speaker 4: and hope that everything's going to be okay. But the
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  Speaker 4: fact that Peyton came out and said he'll be fine,
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  Speaker 4: that means preliminarily, when they looked at it, they're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he's gonna be okay. He probably won't be out today.
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  Speaker 4: Take some precautions going forward with Nick Benito. But man,
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  Speaker 4: when you see a guy like that, as valuable as
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  Speaker 4: he is to this team go down and lay down,
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  Speaker 4: that is a hold your breath and just cross your
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  Speaker 4: fingers type of moment.
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  Speaker 3: Right he stayed down. That was a period of five minutes. Now,
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  Speaker 3: the inside run drill did not stop, like they the
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  Speaker 3: Broncos didn't miss you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta do that.
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  Speaker 3: They kept going, and Sean let the media know that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, every single minute of practice is legislated weeks
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  Speaker 3: if not months in advance, so like, if there's an injury,
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  Speaker 3: we keep going. It doesn't matter if it's too uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the the eighty seventh guy on the roster,
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  Speaker 3: or if it's to Nick Benito, who's one of the
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  Speaker 3: top five pass rushers in the game today, I don't
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  Speaker 3: really expect to see him out here. So we saw
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  Speaker 3: Luke Wattenberg jogging around yesterday, but the Lautenberg injury was
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  Speaker 3: expected to be an upper body injury. If this is
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  Speaker 3: an ankle, man like, I don't I don't need to
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  Speaker 3: see Nick out here.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, Na, Na, man, you dodged a bullet. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: you got a lot of big bodies in the same spot. Right.
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  Speaker 2: It's chaos on a football field. Nine on seven is
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  Speaker 2: organized chaos. You're telling the defense that you're gonna run
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  Speaker 2: the ball inside, and the defense is trying to get
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  Speaker 2: to the interior, so you're gonna run over bodies. Chris Bianki,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, just noted that we have tied two
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  Speaker 2: records in the last thirty eight hours. The other day
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  Speaker 2: at two thirty pm, we were here a Monday record
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  Speaker 2: for this date in history in Colorado, one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: two degrees in Denver. Right, and some thirty eight hours
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  Speaker 2: later at four thirty am this morning, a tidy low
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  Speaker 2: of forty eight degrees. That's a fifty four degree swing.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 3: See, I felt like it was colder yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Well, because today you're prepared. I told you there's nothing
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  Speaker 2: colder gonna yeah, unprepared cold.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but well there's also there's no cloud cover and
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  Speaker 4: there's no breeze blowing, which got exacerbated the situation.
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  Speaker 2: But as you'll see, gentlemen, what did I do today?
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  Speaker 4: You wore shoes? I wore shoes like a normal adult. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: like an adult. Don't wear for the entire first.
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  Speaker 3: You got your little piggies out for the last few
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  Speaker 3: days of practice.
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  Speaker 2: Dude.
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  Speaker 4: I wear flip flops in the summertime every day of
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  Speaker 4: my life. I love I love flip flops, love them.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even I've ever seen someone else here at
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  Speaker 3: camp working.
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  Speaker 4: Camp, Jeff Jeff lake Walds worn flip flops.
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  Speaker 3: There's other I've never seen you wearing flops.
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  Speaker 2: There's other people. I'm sure he and I know those people,
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  Speaker 2: the friends of mine. And if those people are listening,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say the same same thing to use I'm
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  Speaker 2: saying emosher be a.
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  Speaker 4: Professional, time out, you have time a professional? Why is
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  Speaker 4: it okay for women to wear just listen? Listen SAMs flips? Okay,
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  Speaker 4: be a professional journalist, I broadcast. Okay, are you gonna
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  Speaker 4: wear flip flops? Head and navs game? Yes, of course not?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Why Why because I'm becus? What because I'm more a
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  Speaker 4: suit because you're a professional. Yeah, correct, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: You just can't tell me that you've never worn sandals
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  Speaker 3: with a suit.
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  Speaker 2: You never, not one time. I don't know, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't think I just answered the question. But I've thought
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  Speaker 2: about this. It's so it's a sexual bias between men
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  Speaker 2: and women.
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  Speaker 4: Women can wear sandals, you know, with their toes hanging out,
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  Speaker 4: and they can wear flips and blah blah blah blah
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  Speaker 4: blah again. But a dude throws a pair of flips
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  Speaker 4: on all of a sudden.
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  Speaker 2: He's easy, clown. You have right, Yes, you're on professional.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, I said, estate man, I got see, I
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  Speaker 2: got long John's underneath this. I am all. I am
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  Speaker 2: set up all good today and it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a great day. Let's see if they get a bit
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  Speaker 2: more physical today as expected. We't. We'll find out how
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  Speaker 2: much more physical they'll be. I thought yesterday was yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: During that nine on seven, did you hear some of
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  Speaker 2: the popping had? Yeah? Wow, there's a lot of like
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  Speaker 2: fireworks out of here.
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  Speaker 3: It was so interesting that first nine on period coincided
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  Speaker 3: with what we expected to be the first day of
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  Speaker 3: one on ones with wide receivers and defensive backs. But
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  Speaker 3: again we spent four hours talking about this thinking that
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  Speaker 3: was gonna be either an unpadded practice where at the
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  Speaker 3: very least just like spiders on shells on for the team. No,
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  Speaker 3: they come out in back plates and guardian caps. And
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  Speaker 3: then when the nine on seven period happens almost simultaneously
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  Speaker 3: on the far side of the field from us, right
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  Speaker 3: next to the fans, we get the first one on
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  Speaker 3: one period where we see Jalen Wattle go against Patzertan
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  Speaker 3: and he burns him twice.
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  Speaker 2: And we saw our first scrap of camp yesterday. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: and it's Girmish. You know, it's interesting, it's only it's
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  Speaker 2: abound to happen. I noticed this yesterday. They were doing
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  Speaker 2: blocking drills off to the side, and it's linemen blocking
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  Speaker 2: fellow linemen and the guys getting blocked they're supposed to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just bat pedal a little bit, feel the effects.
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  Speaker 2: But you could tell the frustration from some of the dudes.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, dude, chill out, you know what, It's just
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  Speaker 2: a drill. You could see it in their faces when
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  Speaker 2: they're upset at their teammates that they're going too hard.
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  Speaker 4: Well, here's part of the problem. When one side is
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  Speaker 4: trying to do their drill but the other side is
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  Speaker 4: instructed hey, don't don't resist too much. That the side
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  Speaker 4: that's not resisting too much gets a little pissed and
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  Speaker 4: you know, stop pushing me around because I'm not allowed
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  Speaker 4: to push you back.
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  Speaker 2: It's sort of unspoken. There's an unspoken ruler here, chill out.
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  Speaker 2: Correct Who was the.
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  Speaker 3: Dude that was running ahead of the offensive line two
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  Speaker 3: days ago when they were doing I wouldn't say suicides,
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  Speaker 3: but they were doing sidelines. At the end of practice
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  Speaker 3: on Tuesday, there is one offensive lineman that Tyler was like,
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna he gets fined tonight.
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  Speaker 2: It used to be Tebow. Tebow during the Yeah, everybody's like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, dude, let's chill it out. You know, let's
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  Speaker 2: calm down a little bit. The rest of us just
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  Speaker 2: want to have a nice day at practice.
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  Speaker 3: You know, where you're making a team being first guy
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  Speaker 3: in suicides high school, Yeah, I don't think you're making
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  Speaker 3: the broncos if you're just beating everyone on side to
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  Speaker 3: see if.
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  Speaker 4: You're if you're on if you're on the scout team
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  Speaker 4: and you're rudy and you're going against my third string running.
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  Speaker 2: Back every single day something like that. Noo.
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  Speaker 4: But the fact of the matter is is that this
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  Speaker 4: is about the time. Look what's today, Today's Wednesday. They've been,
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  Speaker 4: you know, running around each other, bashing each other just
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  Speaker 4: a little bit for the past five days, and this
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  Speaker 4: is about the time. Yeah, you get your first skirmish,
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  Speaker 4: you get your first whatever it may be. Guys are
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  Speaker 4: getting their dander up a little bit, and that's to
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  Speaker 4: be expected. I mean again, when I look at Benito
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  Speaker 4: getting rolled up on, I look at at you know,
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  Speaker 4: the skirmish and in the one on this is about
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  Speaker 4: the time of camp when those things start to happen.
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  Speaker 4: It's a natural progression. It happens in every single training camp.
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  Speaker 4: And Rash, I was listening to you in the appetizer
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  Speaker 4: hour a little bit and you're like, You're like, this
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  Speaker 4: camp is very professional, and it's very efficient, and it's
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  Speaker 4: very this, and it's very that. And I'm thinking to myself,
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  Speaker 4: you're right about that. But even if you go to
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  Speaker 4: the worst team in the NFL, if let's say you
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  Speaker 4: go to I mean, you can go to the Tennessee
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  Speaker 4: Titans camp. The way camps work nowadays, there's no Lucy
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  Speaker 4: Goosey anymore. I mean, everybody is. I mean, these teams
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  Speaker 4: are because the time constrictions and with the CBA, teams
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  Speaker 4: have to be efficient, they have to be crisp.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't feel like that under Hackett, though. Didn't it
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  Speaker 3: feel like it was a little bit of a summer
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  Speaker 3: camp under Hacket? It doesn't feel the way that way
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  Speaker 3: under Shan.
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  Speaker 4: I think because Peyton has a certain aura of seriousness
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  Speaker 4: about him when he's out there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I get that. I think it comes
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  Speaker 2: from the coach.
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  Speaker 4: But look all these teams, all these pro teams, even
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  Speaker 4: the crappy ones, even the Jets, are trying to run crisp, clean, good.
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  Speaker 2: Practices because you gotta get your work out.
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  Speaker 3: I think what you were hearing during that segment. I
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  Speaker 3: saw the video of Justin Herbert having a picnic essentially
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  Speaker 3: on the ground of Chargers training camp with his fiance
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  Speaker 3: or his wife, I don't know if they're married or not.
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  Speaker 3: Madison Beer the pop star, and she's playing with his
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  Speaker 3: hair big and they're looking longingly into each other's eyes.
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  Speaker 3: And I get that that's nice to be young and
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  Speaker 3: engaged and in love. But every time that I look
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  Speaker 3: at Justin Herbert. Every year I see him on social
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  Speaker 3: or on video, I can't help but think that's an
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  Speaker 3: un serious quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Why why that is he unseerious?
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  Speaker 3: It feels as though he is involved with things that
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  Speaker 3: are off field, and when it comes down to the
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  Speaker 3: nitty gritty, when it comes down to needing a play,
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  Speaker 3: he's just never there with all that immense talent. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: it's just the hatred of the Chargers, but I saw
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  Speaker 3: that video and I went, I'm happy that we've got
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  Speaker 3: bon Nicks here. The only thing that this guy thinks
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  Speaker 3: about is football. The only thing that this guy thinks
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  Speaker 3: about is finding a way to prove the people that
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  Speaker 3: you know vote for him as the eighteenth best quarterback
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  Speaker 3: in the league despite having twenty four wins over his
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  Speaker 3: first couple of years. I'm happy we got.
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  Speaker 2: That son of a football coach, the mentality of a
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  Speaker 2: football fanatic, and you're exactly right about that. He lives
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  Speaker 2: and dies this stuff. In fact, if you go back
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  Speaker 2: and rank all Broncal quarterbacks in terms of who eight
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  Speaker 2: and slept football more, Peyton Manning would probably be number one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that list tops. This guy might be number two. This
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  Speaker 2: guy might be number two over John. Well, you guys
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  Speaker 2: know the insides and outs of John. Yeah, I mean John,
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  Speaker 2: John was a little different. John wasn't as corporate. Some
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  Speaker 2: of these guys are more corporate. John was a dude.
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  Speaker 2: John was a dude. He was a dude.
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  Speaker 4: You're telling me this quarterback takes his job more seriously
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  Speaker 4: than Paxton Lynch? Did I find that hard to believe?
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  Speaker 2: Man? I find that no, kidding, But do you understand
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  Speaker 2: the difference there? What I'm getting at, dude versus a
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  Speaker 2: guy who's this football. Of course, John took football seriously,
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  Speaker 2: but he also took fun seriously, you know, And I
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  Speaker 2: think this guy is all football all the time.
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  Speaker 3: I do think that's part of the era that Bo
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  Speaker 3: has grown up in, the era that he goes into
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  Speaker 3: the NFL, and which is the era of the the
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  Speaker 3: pr regulated quarterback, right the face of the franchise being
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  Speaker 3: the quarterback now right Like John certainly had that in
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  Speaker 3: the mid nineties and late nineties when he got into
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  Speaker 3: the latter stage of his career, but it drastically changed
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  Speaker 3: with you know, ESPN and Sports Center being in your
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  Speaker 3: face constantly, and obviously with social and all the media
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  Speaker 3: appearances that you have to make as a quarterback, you
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  Speaker 3: have to be a little bit more buttoned up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well look, bottom line is this, if you're married to
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  Speaker 4: a pop star or engaged to a pop star and
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  Speaker 4: she wants to play with your hair, you're probably gonna
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  Speaker 4: let her play with your hair, right. I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: remember Russ when he was in Seattle, takes big contract.
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  Speaker 4: When did his life He's in bed with with his
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  Speaker 4: you know, wivest we got the deal done and all
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  Speaker 4: that kind of thing. I guess his life changed when
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  Speaker 4: he's when he started dating her and married her.
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  Speaker 3: I guess hindsight is twenty twenty. But I remember these
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  Speaker 3: training camps a handful of years ago when the the
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  Speaker 3: highlight of the morning was Vic singing at Sierra, which
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  Speaker 3: she walked across.
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  Speaker 2: Very embarrassing on my part, very embarrassing. He was trying
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  Speaker 2: to be fun. But the funny thing about that whole
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  Speaker 2: episode was every single day she came with an ensemble
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  Speaker 2: of security.
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  Speaker 4: They're like four security guards, do you remember that? And
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  Speaker 4: they had one dude carrying all the kid's toys. Remember that.
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  Speaker 2: It was just it was it was a big wheelway. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was a serious quarterback at that point in his career.
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  Speaker 2: Quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: As we go on here too, you're talking about Jaylen
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  Speaker 4: Wattle and Pats or Tan going at it and all
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  Speaker 4: that kind of thing. I loved what Waddle had to
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  Speaker 4: say about Marvin Mims when he said, Marv, I'm a
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  Speaker 4: big fan of Marvin Mims. I'm not going to lie.
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  Speaker 4: Is very explosive. I love watching him work, love being
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  Speaker 4: in meetings with him picking his brain. Marvin's a big play,
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  Speaker 4: always ready to happen. You've got to respect that kind
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  Speaker 4: of speed. Look, man, receivers know, right, they know when
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  Speaker 4: a guy's got something. I'm really hoping, gentlemen, that Marvin Mims,
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  Speaker 4: like we've been speculating, well what does this mean for him?
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  Speaker 4: You know, are they gonna utilize him? Should he move on?
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  Speaker 4: Will he want to move on? And so on?
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  Speaker 2: He's having a good camp. I hope that this.
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  Speaker 4: I hope this is the start of something where he
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  Speaker 4: becomes this weapon inside this offense that is something that
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  Speaker 4: you can count on and something that you count on
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: them putting him out on the field.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: When we come back. I did some digging on this yesterday.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: The Broncos revealed their plans for the stadium district. All right,
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: we didn't see any renderings of the stadium, but we
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: saw plenty of the district itself. What's the hold up?
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: What was Demandi Leech referring to about, you know, things
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: taking time? What is the hold up? I did a
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: little digging on what that hold up is.
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• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Television Mode. You said you've done some digging.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: Well, I haven't done any digging, but Vic has and
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: I love when Vic has this. I've got intel. I've
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: been doing some digging. All right, Rockford Files, what do
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: you got? Okay, well, what do you mean you love it? Okay, Well,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: I mean I love it because you do your your
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: due diligence. Now we're talking about Burnham Yard, which I
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: was right by yesterday. I'm trying so I don't know
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: about you, but every time I drive by, I start
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: like at sixth Avenue and then I try to envision
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: all the way to thirteenth Avenue what it's going to
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: look like.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Do you do that at all? Do you guys?
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, do you guys drive by and try to envision. Okay,
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: that'll be this the south end, and this will be
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: the stadium, and this will be this little parking lot,
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: and this will be the north end.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: And at some point.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: It's dangerous, like I feel like I've almost gotten a car.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Maybe, yeah, especially by the way rush hour in Denver.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Dude is there. I don't know, man, It's just I
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: deal with it in the wintertime obviously, well during hockey season,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: every day of my life. But it's it's a pain
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: of the boat. Okay, Yeah, don't be staring at Burnham Yard. Here.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Here's what I've come to yesterday. It was not it
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: wasn't a coincidence that the Broncos released all these renderings
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: and all these ideas and all these displays and drawings
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: of what the district is going to look like. It
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: is an effort in my opinion. First of all, they're working.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Let's get this thing moving. Let's get this thing going.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: If we're going to get it built and ready to
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: go by twenty thirty one, we have to remove all
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: obstacles in the way. What are those obstacles, Well, most
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: of them the Broncos have already covered most of them
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: are you know, the effects inside the Burnham Yard area
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: that they needed to buy up and take care of.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: But there remains one obstacle that they're dealing with right
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: now that frankly, I don't know the answer to it,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: and that is the community advocates who are demanding certain things.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: You can call them community advocates. Some might refer to
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: them as community extortionists. You could say, whatever you want,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: what do they want? I don't know what they want.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: The Broncos really don't know what they want because they
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: don't speak for themselves. They've hired consultants to do the
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: speaking for them. And I'm not sure why you would
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: need a consultant. And I speak here from the way someone.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Saying the community people, because there are people who want
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: to keep Burnham Yard the way it is? Right they
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: what do they want to do? The hell would want
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: to keep it the way it is? I have no idea,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: but you're telling what reason. You're telling me that this
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: group has hired consultants to speak for them about wanting
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: to keep Okay, the broken concrete and crack.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I want you to take a look at this, and
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: you're looking at it right now, Rose, You're looking at
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: this area right here. Everything inside that area that's colored
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: in it's all industrial, right. There are no homes that
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: are going to be raised here. No, there are no
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: all industrial, no neighborhoods destroyed here. Correct. No one's going
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: to lose their home that they've lived in for fifty years.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: That's not happening here, So take that off the list.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: There's there's no worries, no issues there. That is entirely
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: industrial stuff. What's been there. There's been companies that run
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: anonymously that you would never know are there. There's been
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: a lot of just open space there. There's been a
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: lot of rail yards waste there that there's been stuff
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: that no one's ever dealt with. You're not ruining anybody's home, correct,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: You're actually the traffic issues. The people that wondered how
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: would this affect traffic, they've showed you the rendering to
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: how they're going to re route streets. The eighth Avenue
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Viaduct is coming down. They're gonna actually it's gonna help traffic.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Frankly to the point where I'm not sure how that's
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: going to operate without cars because they're eliminating a lot
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: of parking lots and stuff. So I'm not sure how
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: you're gonna run this without vehicles being able to go.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's hardly any parking lots. Yeah, is this
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: one parking lot on the south side of it.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: They've got parking lots nearby, and they've got they've got
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: underground parking lots inside there too that you cannot see. Uh.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: The other thing that they're doing is that they're adding
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: parks and trails. You see all the open space there.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: They're being very creative, so they're they're being amenable there.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: They're they're doing low income housing, which comes with it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Anytime you work with the city at Denver, anytime you
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: work with any cities, you you better provide that. So
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: They've got a lot of low income housing that's going
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: in there in addition to some of the commercial properties.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: So what's the problem then, So they've addressed the traffic.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: They they've actually helped with the traffic. They've addressed the
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: people that live there, and the history people too. There's
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: and don't even get me going on this preserving history.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: What history? What? What history? Jesse? You're born Jesse, you're
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: like me, You're born and raised in Denver, right where
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Denver is? What history? My dad worked for the railroad
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: for twenty six years. He worked there, He worked there.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: If anybody knows the history what history is? I don't know.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: I can tell you this having been there on multiple occasions.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: The amount of waste, and you know, the amount of
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: rag what I'm talking about is like industrial waste that's
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: in the soil there at Burnham Yard. The amount I
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: don't know how. I don't know how deep they have
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: to go, how the top how deep the top layer
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: has to go to be taken off. But there's a
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: lot of crap in the ground there, and the Broncos
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: are willing to take care of it and do it themselves,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: so they're paying for all of it.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Don't.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: I don't for the life of me, vic I can't
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: understand why somebody would be against this.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, how could you get a collective group of
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: people against this?
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: And what is their point? What do they want? Well?
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I know several community members in that area who cannot
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: wait for the project to get going because it's going
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: to actually help the properties that they own in and
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: around there. And then there are those again who I
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: would call not community community advocates, community extortionists because they're
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: just basically waiting for something. They're waiting and what is
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: that stuffing? These guys don't know what they want. When
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I say these guys, I'm pointing to the Broncos, right,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: what do you want? What do you think they want?
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: What do you think they want? They answered every question
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: they give you to the parks and trails, they've given you,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: the low income they they've helped you with the traffic,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: they've designed it to a point where it's gonna mix
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: with the city. So what do you think they want?
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: What's left? I have no idea. Does anybody answer to somebody?
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Anybody answer that question? Here's why I know they answer.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: Someone says there are historical buildings in the Denver Water property?
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: What what historical buildings?
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: What?
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Somebody help me with?
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: What?
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Guys, what are you talking about? I would I know
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: every inch of Denver. There's no historical buildings in Burnham Yard.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: And if there are, they're gonna work with them. And
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: look at the renderings. They're taking that little circle thing?
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: What is that? You use? The turntable? And every has
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: anybody listening to this radio show? And they're making it
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: a park. There's a thing called a turn.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: It still looks like a turntable.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Has anybody in Denver ever heard or seen the Burnham
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Yard turntable? Anyone? I call upon all Denver natives, anybody
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: who lives in that area. Does anybody know what the
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: hell are referring to? So that's I almost curse there.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: What bunch of bs? It's bs is what that is?
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: So again, what do you want? I'm calling out this?
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: These are extortionists. They're professional extortionists that do this everywhere.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: It's not like.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: You're mowing down Union Station, right.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, for God's sake, no, you're you're exactly right
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: about that. I don't I I just don't know. Uh,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Denver Preservation iss say demolition of historic Burnham Yards buildings
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: was deeply immoral. This is back some time ago. I
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: don't I don't know people the god. I'm all for
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: preserving history, I am do you have to realize what
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: this property is. I would encourage anybody to go there.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: If you really are questioning what we're talking about, drive
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: your ass down there, park at the Buck Corner, by
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: the Buck Corner, walk your ass in there, and then
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: go see exactly what I'm talking about.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: You're gonna go. This is a scrap yard. This is crap.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: It's crap, it's crap. Again, there's there's a locomotive building
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: that is useless. It's it's all weeds, it's drug addicts,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: it's drugs. And they're actually gonna turn it into a museum.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: So that's part of the project. So they're actually uplifting
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: the area. What's the problem, what what's the issue here?
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: This?
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Well, and again if you're talking about okay, this building
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: was built in nineteen twenty seven. Well, if it's condemned,
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: it's condemned, and it's full of graffiti and and and
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: drug paraphernalia, knock it down. I don't care if it
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: was built in twenty seven. If it's a little, if
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: it's a little crab shack that should be condemned and
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: is falling apart, then knock it down. We're not talking
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: about the friggin capital or the Molly Brown House. Okay,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: we're not. We're not talking about that. Oh now you
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: got me fired up about it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Now I'm probably gonna turned down my sorry input, because
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: you're so loud, well, because I'm mad too. Well again,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I'm going to make my plea to anyone out there
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: please answer the question, because I really, if there's something
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: to be concerned over, I'd love to talk about it.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Tell me what these people want. What have they not
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: addressed in this whole thing that's causing these delays. And
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: it doesn't bother me from a delay standpoint, because it's
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: gonna get done. It just bothers me from a principle.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Oh it would bother me from a delay standpoint principles
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: if it gets delayed. Right, this is already and I
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: believe this is the quote from Demani Leitch an ambitious timeline.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: A delay would be an issue because then you have
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: to extend it mile or rather in power field.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: I want I want everybody that it runs out in
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: twenty thirty, right, I want everybody to answer this question. Okay,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: please answer this question. Did anybody in Denver? Did anybody
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: on this planet outside the companies that had their little
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: you know, green growing weed or whatever it is they
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: did in bird Have you ever heard anybody mentioned discuss
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: even lift a fingertoo quote preserve the store, no nature?
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Because again, let me let me read this. It blows
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: my mind, dude.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: And when I read these texts, I don't want to listen.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: There's been a lot of gentrification in Denver. Hell, it's
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: happened in my old neighborhood, and I've seen it happen
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: over the last fifteen years. And gentrification is hard. It
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: hurts some people and it helps others. I get it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: This isn't about gentrification. This is about taking an area
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: that has not only been blighted, but an area that's
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: been wholly unused and turning it into something useful. It's
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: different than gentrification. Let me read this text, plain and simple.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: This person, right, the people who have lived in that
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: neighborhood their whole lives, do not want to be taken
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: advantage of. They want to make sure they get taken
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: care of and not taken advantage of.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: No one lives there.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: What are they being taken advantage of? Exactly? How are
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: they being taken advantage of by having a new district
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: that's actually going to improve the area, improve their property values,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: improve their outlook, improve what they have around them? How
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: is that being taken advantage of? Exactly? This is what
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Here's what I.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Don't want people to think the government can come in
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: using eminent domain and take over your property, right. I mean,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: they come in if they offer you a fair price
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: eminent domain. I mean, that's how you that's how you
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: build a four seventy all the way through on farmland
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: eminent domain. But they've got to give you a fair
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: price for the land. But they can go and take
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: your property. That's not what's happening here. Nobody has their
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: property taken. In fact, the Broncos are buying, bought everything
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: for crying out loud. The only issue is Denver water
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: and they're going to move. They've worked that out. I
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: just I don't I don't understand what the what the
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: problem here is vic I don't. I mean, if these
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: people really have they're holding it up for whatever reason.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: What are they go at court or something or they
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: somebody gets what are they? What are they looking for?
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I know for a fact some of the people that
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: are most vocal about this don't even live there. They
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: just represent some of the community members that live there.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: And I've seen some texts here. Why don't you guys
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: get somebody out from the city. This isn't the city.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: The city's working with Bronco, right, this city are fine.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: This isn't city. It's it's community advocates what they call themselves,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: who are now hiring consultants. It's it's community extortionists. It's
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: people that want something. And what that's something is I
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: don't know what it is. VIC.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: It's the people that when you're watching a Broncos game
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: on Sunday, that are walking around outside, not in front
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: of their television dialed into a Broncos game. They're the
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: people that you can't stand on Sundays. That's who it is.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Well more and more prevalent than Denver these days. For sure,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: we've become a transplant town. But that's fine. You know,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: there's still plenty of Bronco fans that will go to
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the games and watch the games. But in that area
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: to be able to clean up that area. And when
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I say clean up an area that has been unused,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: nobody lives there. Nobody lives in these rail yards. Nobody
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: lives on that turntable. Nobody's going to the locomotive UH
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: warehouse to check out the old locomotive. Nobody does anything there.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Calm the hell down and fix it, That's all I'm saying.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's you've got a private entity that wants
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: to clean and wants to build and wants to make things,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: and wants to make it more beautiful and more useful
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: and more everything. All right, Why wouldn't everybody be in
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: favor of Let me differentiate there because some of the textures.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: One texture says you keep saying people don't live there,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: but then you say people do. People live around around
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: the Burnham Yard.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: They you know, there's a there's a little area around
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Burnham Yard. Plenty of people live there. None of those homes,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: none of those neighborhoods will be removed. There's no plans
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: for any of that. Those homes remain. Again, I have
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: relatives who live in that area. Their property value is
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: going to skyrocket. It's a good thing for those people.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: I don't get it. Nobody lives. There's not one, well
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: legally anyway, there may be. There may be crackheads who
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: are shooting up inside Burnam yard. Well you know what
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: I mean. But no, there's no homes inside the Broncos
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: proposed Roger your little rendering here, there's not one home
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: in that entire area.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Nothing.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be like the negative Nelly here.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Do you think they released all of these renderings and right,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: they're gorgeous, like if that actually happens, and it looks
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: like the.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Right and it may not even be that night. Most
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: of the time, it isn't.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: When you see the renderings, it's you know, take twenty
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: five percent off.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Hey, jack Wagon, I'm looking at this joint over here
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: to your left, great point.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at this.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: New facility here, and I'm like, it's probably gonna be
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: nicer than we think it is. It's probably gonna be
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: better than we think it is. That's my guess. That's
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: a good point.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I should take a look at what the renderings were
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: for this facility and then compare contrasted with what we've
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: walked through.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: See, this is largely different than your normal gentrification of
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: a city. And I'm gonna tell you the difference between
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: the two again, and I'm only gonna refer to where
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I grew up in Denver, gentrification is you could see
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: it everywhere. There are old homes that are being removed
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: and on top of them new homes, these double stacks,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: these ADUs, all this stuff that's being built people can't
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: afford unless you make a lot of money. That's gentrificing.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: There is nothing in Burnham Yard right now. Nothing there.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: There hasn't been the entire I've lived here since I
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: was what two years old, my entire life, there's ever
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: been anything there. Moj You say that you're looking at
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: the facility to your west right now, Yeah, it looks
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: better than the renderings.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it does.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: That's exactly, if not slightly worse than what we're looking at.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I agree. Now, I'm sure it's going to be.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Look, I don't even know if you need to take
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: twenty five percent off of the renderings.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say one last thing. I don't care
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: what you think about the Walton Penner group and so
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: on and so forth. Here's what I do know. These
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: people put their money where their mouth is and they
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: get stuff done. And I can guarantee you that they're
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: taking this obviously very seriously.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: This is a multi multi billion dollar project.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: But they're gonna do it right, and they're gonna do
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: it good, and the entire city is going to benefit
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: from it, not just with the Denver Broncos, but everything
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: that comes with the development like this, and same with
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Ball Arena and the new development that's gonna go on there.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: It's only good for your city and this place.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I don't. I well, not everything is good, not, you know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: And that's where what's not good. Not everything is good.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the extortionists looking for handouts. That's not good.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I hate no. I he're right, that's not good. Just
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: because this is there, it doesn't make everything good. I
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: have a major concern, and I said this yesterday, with
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: how they're gonna handle transportation in and out of that area,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: because this whole, this whole approach to no cars anywhere else.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Good luck with that, good luck, good luck. You don't
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: live in Amsterdam here, all right, this is an Amsterdam.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: No good luck.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Try telling that to DMAC again.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Good luck with game day when you have seventy eight
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: thousand people and you you're gonna rely on a rail stop?
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Are two rail stops to bring seventy eight thousand people
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: in and out of there? Well, don't get me you're
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: right half with that. Don't get me started on that.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: So that's the part that I'm like, all right, I mean,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: if that's where you want to go, I don't know
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: how that's gonna work. Then again, you know, how does
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Wrigley Field get filled up? There's no parking around there.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Have you ever been? Yeah, I've been there many times. Okay,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: so where do you park? Uh? Down the street?
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: I mean it's a little bit of park in front
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: of someone's home and then you walk through the neighborhood.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: They do have we do have lots there, but yeah,
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: I'd find a place on the street and find a
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: place around the corner, you know, down with four blocks
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: around the corner. I try to get their early bottom
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: line is this though, And I almost cursed, like you did, Vic.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: The place right now is in I don't people, if
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: you really want to know, just drive over there, park
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: the go to the Buckhorn, have a great meal.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Look at the place. It's it's a crap hole.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, And anybody who would oppose cleaning up and beautifying
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: a crap hole is beyond me.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: And I'll leave it at that.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: We'll get back into the conversation around the Broncos new
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Stadium district later on in the show.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: We have to I'm kind of sick of this man.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: These people make me mad.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, coming up at eight forty five,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: I've setting up for a long day out here at
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Dove Valley, expected to have a two and a half
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: hour practice with pads. Yet again, it's gonna be gorgeous.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: If you have tickets, do not be late, get here early.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: You're gonna see a heck of a practice. Vic Lombardi,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Mark Moser, Homrage filling in for Kaner on Mosa, Lombardi
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: and Kane. It's Altitude Sports Radio ninety two to five
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Training Camp twenty twenty six, presented by Ramos law Here
• 34:23
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• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Vic and Moje hanging out with you guys until ten
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: and then the Altitude Training Camp Show from ten to
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: two with d Max, Scottie Hastings, Tyler Columbus and Coach Sanford.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Yes, Moosh, we got a text her last thought on this.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: You know what, I don't really want to get back
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: into it, but hey, from the ninety nine one, there's
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: nothing on you brother, quote, there's nothing wrong with in
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: power field. We're tearing it down. Some billionaires can just
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: own everything. One thing you have to understand about billionaires,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: and Brett makes this point all the time. They don't rent.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: They own number one, number two the least is going
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: to expire with the city coming up here in what
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: how many years? Twenty thirty, twenty thirty. Okay, it's well
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: within their right to build their own place without one
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: dime of tax payer dollars. Besides, what do you think
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: is going to become of the of the empower field site.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: What's the city going to do with that site? There's
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: gonna be housing there. There will be an apartment belongs
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: to the buildings.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what used to be owned by the Metro
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: District will return to the city at Denver.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: And the city is going to be the city despite
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: the stadium being torn down. The developers that come in
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: are going to pay the city to make that place
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: beautiful too. Just there's there's absolutely nothing you could explain
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: to me why they shouldn't proceed today.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Nothing is wrong with Empower Field at all. I think
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: it's a wonderful stadium to go see a game at
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's outdated.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: It's not. And they poured a bunch of but they've
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: poured millions of dollars.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I like it. I like Empower.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I think it's the same thing that I look at
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Paul Arena and I go there is nothing wrong with
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: ball Arena. The ownership group has poured millions of dollars
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: into upkeep in updating that stadium. But when I see
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: a place like Rogers Place in Canada, I go, oh,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: I would like to have a stadium in an ice
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: rink that looks like that.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: You just just answered the eternal question, the difference between
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: need and want.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a want.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no need for anything new here. There's no need.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: You can make do for the next twenty years in
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: that stadium.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Hey, when you had Mile High though old Miles HIGHVIC,
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: there was a need, Yes, yes there was.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: But the w here's the want. The want is a
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Shindy U stadium. The want is a possible Super Bowl.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: The want is some final fours. The want is a
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: retractable roof to go along with what a lot of
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: other stadiums are doing. And that want is why it's happening,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: not the need, the want.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Will we ever have the want to replace Corsfield because
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: that feels like that feels like a timeless No, it's
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: it's a cathedral.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be that.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: That's that exact stadium is going to be around for
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: an off long time. It's gorgeous, it's the functionality is awesome.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: Where it's built is great, and it's it's it's kept
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: very nice, very very very very well.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: You know. Well, if there's one thing that you've got
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: to credit the Montforts for keeping up that stadium, it's
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: been beautifully done.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: A last thing on this rush, I've traveled to every
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: arena in the National Hockey League all around obviously, and
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: I've been in the bowels and around of every single arena.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: I can tell you all the arenas built within let's
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: say two three five years of ball arena.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: That nineteen ninety seven to two thousand and two range.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I can tell you some of them. Some of them
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: are crap holes.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: You can't believe the lack of upkeep in some of
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: these buildings where people can't see it right Ball Arena, Dude,
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: they work hard, they pour money into the upkeep of
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: that building and it shows. I can tell you right now,
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: we have a It's probably smaller than everybody would like,
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: but it's a really nice place.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Can I interest you in USA Today's twenty twenty six
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: NFL record projections?
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Please? USA Today projecting the NFL record? Yes? Okay?
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Would you like me to start with the AFC West.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: At the bottom of the AFC West projected to go
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: three and fourteen, The Las Vegas Raiders projected at nine
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: and eight, the LA Chargers, a team that likely would
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: miss the playoffs at nine and eight, with Justin Herbert
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: and him looking lovingly into his fonce Mexan peer's eyes.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: They're saying nine and eight for the Chargers who won
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: eleven games last year and went to the postseason.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: That is correct, Okay.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: At eleven and six, a wild card team this year.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs with the arrival
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: of Kenneth Walker Super Bowl MVP, and at twelve and five,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: which is the record that I have for the Broncos
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: when they came out the schedule, Denver is the number
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: two seed in the age.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: If I gave you twelve and five today, would you
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: take it?
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Thou streak down the field at twelve and five last
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: year they won fourteen, so too fewer wins and you
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: take it and say, thank.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: God, roj, I don't do the betting. So can you
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: get on a betting site again?
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: And this very day, at seven fifty in the morning
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: on August fifth, tell me what the over underwind total
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: is for the Denver Broncos because it was nine and
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: a half.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: It's either nine and a half or ten and a half.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: And I like the over on that all day and
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: all night. Nine and a half.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: Okay, so the over under right now for the betting public, bic,
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: this is the betting public is nine and a half
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: wins and USA today has them at twelve.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Now we have bone knicks walking the field barefoot while
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: snacking on something, snacking walking, eating, walking, walking, eating, snacking walking.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: I want to put that to a beat, Nelly, Yeah,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: drop a beat. Now, you gotta find a way to
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: put that to a beat. Clip that in the break.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Put it to a beat, because I'm I'm gonna bug
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: you to it at some point I think twelve and
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: five is very doable. If you get through the first
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: six weeks at three and three, If if you get
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: through at four and two, I think you're staring down
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: a number one seed. Twelve and five might be the
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: one seed in the AFC.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Could be in amazing How perspective matters. I mean last
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: year you go fourteen to three and you think, wow,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: how did we get here? How did how did they
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: host throughout the entire playoff run? You can have a
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: worse record, you can have a worse seed, and yet
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: you could be a better team.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Well, we've we've talked about on the more some sort
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: of regression, and the Broncos in terms of record, will
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: all have some sort of regression. The Abs aren't gonna
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: have one hundred and twenty one point season. I think
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: the Nuggets are going to struggle a little bit more
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: than they did last year. I don't think it's a
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: cliff is coming for any one of these teams, But
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: in terms of their win loss records, I don't think
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: any one of these three teams exceed what they did
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: last year.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: Okay, I mean it's gonna be hard for the Avs
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: because they had the best regular season they've ever had.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: They're not gonna have one hundred and twenty one points.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: That's exactly right. But I'm looking at the AFC last year.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: You had one, two, three, four five. You had five
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: teams with twelve or more win, Jags with thirteen and four. Yes,
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: you had five teams with with twelve or more wins,
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: including your Broncos and the Patriots both at fourteen and three.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: So I guess my question is, is the AFC gonna
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: get that much more difficult? Is that what we're talking about?
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: Is it gonna be an absolute nightmare of a of
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: a conference this year? I think it's already pretty damn tough,
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: But you know, I mean Houston went twelve and five,
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: Jags went thirteen and four, Buffalo was twelve and five,
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Patriots fourteen and three, obviously, the Broncos fourteen and three,
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: and then the Chargers there if you want to throw
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: them in. That's an eleven win football team, which is
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: which is a good season, and they made the postseason.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: I'm convinced the AFC South is not one with thirteen games.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: I think it's one with eleven or twelve, because if
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: you get a full season out of Daniel Jones with
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: the Colts. That is a better team than eight and nine,
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: especially with how good their rushing attack is. I think
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: the one seed in the AFC comes out of the
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: East simply because of how terrible the bottom of that
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: division is with Miami in New York. Whoever wins that
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: battle between Buffalo in New England, I think that's your
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: buye in the AFC.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, I watch Bonnicks continue to walk now, striding now,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: long strides, now, arms at the hips, striding along the field.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Here walking the width of the field, not the length
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: of the field. As I watch him walk, I reference
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: a set of stats by Warren Sharp. Okay, quarterback record
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: when trailing entering the fourth quarter last season. Who had
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: the best record in the NFL ling while entering the
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: fourth quarter bonickx Bonnicks was four and one, No one
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: even as close. The next closest was Daniel Jones who
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: was three and three. Caleb Williams was four and five,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Jordan two and three. You can go on and on.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is one in four when trailing going into
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter last year. Baker Mayfield was zero to seven. Wow,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: So is that a what is that Patrick Mahomes, by
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: the way, was one in six when trailing going into
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. Is that an offshoot? Is that a trend?
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: How do you well, we've talked about the Broncos season
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: last year and all the one score wins and so on.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: In the comeback boy Justin Herbert was one in five. Yeah,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: when training going to the fourth quarter. Uh. The fact
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: of the matter is there's a talent. There's an act
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: to that Dick. There is.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: What we're going to find out this year and we're
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: gonna find out in the future is whether or not
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: that was an anomaly, Whether it was an anomaly, or
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: whether this is what this guy's makeup truly is because
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: they got a little bit fortunate. Again, how do you
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: explain the Philadelphia Eagles with that lead and they won't
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: give the football to say, quad, refuse to put the
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: ball in his hands, refuse to run the ball. It's
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: hurts trying to force the ball downfield to allow the
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Broncos back into the game.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Now, is that on bon Nicks?
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: I guess it is, because when he got the football
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: in his hand, he led him The scores that the
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: New York Giants pick have a nineteen point lead, right,
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: and and in the Broncos put up thirty three points
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter because the Giants screwed a lot
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: of stuff up, all right, So I'm just saying that
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: there are mitigating circumstances, but there's also a knack as
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: skill and a will.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: To all of that. Top of your head, what are
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: the games He's four and one when trailing going into
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: the fourth? Obviously that game, the Giants game. The Philly
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: game was another one.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: What about the the Getans game, the Jets game?
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: The Jets.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: I'd have to look at that, but I that was, yeah,
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: I think they were I was super ugly.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Have to look at it.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Were they trailing going into the fourth against the Commanders?
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I can't remember. I can't remember that was it?
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: That was a bad bow game in the first half, right,
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: they may have been trailing going into the fourth quarter
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: in that game.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: We've got three of them for sure. There was one
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: more in there that your trailing going into the fourth.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: And Denver was leading the fourth in the Washington game,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: what how.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Their game was? Then? What about Philly? The Jets? What
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: about the Green Bay game? The Giants Philly? There's three
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: in a row. There Philly Jets, Giants. Check that Jets.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Now they had to lead in that one to twenty
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: seven to twenty three.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: You want mean, checked the Jets game where they won thirteen.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: To trying to make sure that that game that they were.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Denver was trailing by one point going into the third.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: They won that game thirteen they were trailing against the Jets.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Remember that game. That game was just deadly. That game
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: was eleven to ten.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: It was eleven to ten Jets, eleven to ten Jets
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: going into the fourth. What a horrible football game. I
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: can't believe. I can't believe that we inflicted that on
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: the people of England. I mean not that they don't
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: deserve it. I'm just saying that, God, if you want
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: to mess up a country, send that send that football
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: game to their to their shores, and let and have
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: them pay big money at Wembley to watch that game, talk.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: About them or wherever the hell they were at.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: In atrocious performance from the offense that day, Bo was
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: nineteen of thirty for one hundred and seventy one yards.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Now did not throw any interceptions in that game and
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: did have one touchdown. The team as a total ran
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: for seventy eight yards. This is a game in which
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: the defense combined for nine sacks.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I never remember because after that game,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: you see the Broncos win, and you're like, are they real?
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: And then remember the first three cours of the Giants game. Okay,
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