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- 0:00I'm Holly Wehment, and this is Pediatrics Now, cases, updates,
- 0:04and discussions for the busy pediatric practitioner.
- 0:08Brought to you by the Department of Pediatrics at UTHealth San Antonio.
- 0:12Today, I'm bringing you Grand Rounds. Let's listen in.
- 0:18Okay, so I'm going to get started. It is my honor to introduce Dr.
- 0:22Ted Seaslack, Colonel, retired United States Army, who is a pediatric infectious
- 0:27disease physician with over 30 years of experience in the field of biosecurity.
- 0:33He received his undergraduate medical degrees at The Ohio State University.
- 0:38He completed his pediatric residency at Baylor College of Medicine.
- 0:42He did his PEDS-ID fellowship at the Uniformed Services University of the Health
- 0:47Sciences in Bethesda, Maryland.
- 0:50During his military career, he served as the chief of operational medicine at
- 0:54the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases.
- 0:58He was the consultant to the Army Surgeon General on biodefense matters,
- 1:03led the U.S. delegation to NATO's Biomedical Advisory Committee,
- 1:06and served as the Defense Department's liaison to the Centers for Disease Control.
- 1:13During his career, he also served as a chief consultant to the U.S.
- 1:17Army Surgeon General, and he deployed to numerous countries,
- 1:20including Panama, Iraq, and Jordan.
- 1:24And of note, he also served on the
- 1:26advisory committee for immunization practices back when it was a thing.
- 1:32After his military retirement in 2015, he became the Executive Director of Health Security for the,
- 1:38University of Nebraska Medical Center And was the Medical Director of UNMC's
- 1:42Quarantine Unit, where he led preparedness operations until retiring in 2021,
- 1:49He's an Adjunct Associate Professor of Epidemiology at UNMC and has ongoing
- 1:54research and advisory roles in both biodefense and pediatric disaster preparedness missions,
- 2:00And on a personal note, I vividly remember him teaching me in the hallway, Wilford Hall, 1999,
- 2:08on my ID rotation.
- 2:09He served as our department chairman subsequently, and I was lucky enough to
- 2:13be able to call him my partner at Brook Army Medical Center for his last two years on active duty.
- 2:18So please welcome me in joining Dr. C. Slack, who's going to talk about quarantine,
- 2:23isolation, and biocontainment.
- 2:26Well, thanks so much, Dina. It's very much an honor to be asked to kick off,
- 2:33this year's Grand Rounds.
- 2:36A couple of caveats here, as Dina indicated, I retired from the military in
- 2:422015 and took a faculty position at Nebraska.
- 2:46And then I retired from that job four years ago.
- 2:49And so anything I say about recent events is gleaned from speaking with my former
- 2:57colleagues and stuff. My own experience at Nebraska ends four years ago.
- 3:02My other caveat is that not too much we're going to discuss today is really
- 3:06specific to children, but I will point out where it is.
- 3:11And so I think all of you are at least loosely familiar with the fact that there
- 3:18have been some serious infectious disease outbreaks in the news lately.
- 3:25The Andes virus outbreak in the South Atlantic Ocean on a cruise ship And then
- 3:30the ongoing Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo Which if you
- 3:34look at the trajectory of cases in that.
- 3:39Ongoing outbreak If it continues along as it has, it will soon dwarf
- 3:45the 2014 outbreak that resulted in 40-some thousand cases So a couple of very
- 3:51important things going on in the world now that are relevant to this discussion.
- 3:56So we're going to talk about quarantine and isolation and a little bit about
- 4:00the ultimate form of isolation, namely biocontainment.
- 4:04So when we talk about infection control and biocontainment, we can actually
- 4:09talk about laboratory containment and clinical containment.
- 4:13So I'll just outline those here, but then we'll spend the rest of this morning.
- 4:18Talking specifically about clinical containment.
- 4:22But when we talk about laboratory containment, and this hopefully is review
- 4:25for most of you, we divide microbiology laboratories into four levels,
- 4:31and we call those biosafety level one, two, three, and four.
- 4:35And so biosafety level one labs are, you can think of a high school biology lab.
- 4:41Obviously, we don't want 14-year-old high school freshmen playing around with
- 4:45anything that's pathogenic, anything harmful to humans.
- 4:49So these laboratories work with benign organisms to demonstrate to high school
- 4:56students what little red and blue things look like under a microscope,
- 5:00but they don't deal with anything harmful to humans.
- 5:03A BSL-2 lab does deal with things that are harmful to humans,
- 5:08but they're the common garden variety sorts of things that we see in clinical
- 5:12medicine all the time, strep and staph and gonorrhea and syphilis and a whole lot of other things.
- 5:17So most of your clinical labs in this country at small community hospitals and
- 5:24stuff, would be BSL-2 labs.
- 5:26A BSL-3 lab is a lab that works with highly hazardous human pathogens.
- 5:33And most medical centers and
- 5:36all 50 state public health labs would have at least a BSL-3 laboratory.
- 5:43Uh, BSL four lab is also a lab that works with highly hazardous human pathogens.
- 5:49Uh, but the difference between BSL three and BSL four is that for the BSL four
- 5:54pathogens, there are no effective countermeasures.
- 5:57And for many decades, we had two of those labs, uh, in the United States,
- 6:02one at the centers for disease control and one at USAMRID, the U S army's medical
- 6:06research Institute of Infectious Diseases.
- 6:09But after the terror attacks of 9-11 and the anthrax attack that followed a
- 6:16few weeks later, Congress did what Congress does.
- 6:19They threw money at the problem of bioterrorism, and many academic institutions
- 6:25won grants to open up their own BSL-4 laboratory.
- 6:29So we now have 13 of those in the United States, and two of those are in Texas,
- 6:34one at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston, and the second right
- 6:39here in San Antonio at the Southwest Foundation for Biomedical Research.
- 6:44So again, that's all I'm going to say about laboratory containment,
- 6:48and I want to focus most of this talk on clinical containment.
- 6:52So I think all of you, hopefully, are familiar with basic clinical infection control practices.
- 7:00So we,
- 7:02speak of standard precautions and who should we approach using standard precautions?
- 7:07Well, obviously everybody.
- 7:09And I think you all know what those are. That's common sense stuff.
- 7:12So we as infectious disease docs, for example, we recommend,
- 7:17it's only a recommendation, but we recommend that if you're doing a rectal exam, you wear gloves.
- 7:22So standard precautions are, again, those common sense things that we do when
- 7:27we approach any patient in a clinical setting.
- 7:30But you also realize that some patients require something more.
- 7:35They require transmission-based precautions, and we have three levels of those,
- 7:40contact droplet and airborne precautions.
- 7:43And airborne precautions are ideally applied in a special facility,
- 7:49an airborne infection isolation room.
- 7:52So that's a negative pressure room. Most medical centers will have a couple
- 7:57of those rooms. Most small community hospitals probably won't.
- 8:03So if you have a patient that requires airborne isolation, those patients you
- 8:08would ideally transfer to a facility that could provide that.
- 8:13But then beyond those transmission-based precautions, there's this very specialized
- 8:19kind of ultra high-level containment care that we call biocontainment.
- 8:26Now, I'm going to talk a little bit about that because that's,
- 8:29again, been in the news quite a bit
- 8:31lately with respect to the Andes virus patients and the Ebola patients.
- 8:37So the birth of biocontainment, I think, is a fascinating story.
- 8:41It occurred in 1969 with a complex number of events all coming together at the same time.
- 8:51So first of all, Richard Nixon in 1969 renounced the use of biological weapons.
- 8:57And some of you may not know this, but the United States from 1943 until 1969
- 9:04actually had an offensive biological weapons program.
- 9:08So that program started in 1943 in response to active German and Japanese programs,
- 9:14and the United States decided that it had better get into the business as well.
- 9:19Most of the work done in that program was defensive, was aimed at coming up
- 9:23with countermeasures for things like anthrax and smallpox.
- 9:27But we did have a small offensive capability. It was dwarfed by that of our
- 9:32Cold War adversary, the Soviet Union.
- 9:35But in 1969, Nixon made the unilateral decision to get rid of this program.
- 9:40And we can argue about his rationale, but basically he said to one of his advisors
- 9:45that, you know, if anyone tries to use biological weapons against us,
- 9:49we'll just nuke the hell out of them.
- 9:51So I think he felt those weapons were ineffective anyway, and there was no great
- 9:56loss getting rid of them.
- 9:58And the reason that's important to us is because back in 1969,
- 10:02all of the media coverage of this decision brought a lot of these diseases out
- 10:10into the public and they became household names.
- 10:13So it was the first time a lot of Americans heard of things like anthrax and
- 10:17plague and smallpox and tularemia and things like that.
- 10:22Then at the same year, an investigator, Jordy Casals at Yale University,
- 10:28discovered one of the first highly morbid viral hemorrhagic fevers, namely Lassa fever.
- 10:34And one of his nurses in the course of doing work with this virus in Nigeria,
- 10:41one of his nurses contracted the disease.
- 10:44She recovered, fortunately. then Dr. Casals himself caught the disease.
- 10:51He recovered only after a transfusion of convalescent plasma from his nurse.
- 10:57And then one of his technicians caught the disease and unfortunately succumbed to that disease.
- 11:04And so that frightened Dr. Casals quite a bit. He decided it wasn't safe to
- 11:09work with viruses like LASA in conventional laboratories.
- 11:13And he moved his work to what was then the Communicable Disease Center,
- 11:17now the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta. And that was the birth of BSL-4
- 11:23laboratory containment.
- 11:25That same year, I think all of you realize, Apollo 11 landed on the lunar surface
- 11:31and Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong walked on the moon.
- 11:35And it seems a little silly now, perhaps.
- 11:38But back in 1969, there was a palpable fear that these astronauts would bring
- 11:43back with them space pathogens, moon viruses.
- 11:47And so there was a lot of interest in quarantining these astronauts when they got back.
- 11:54And so NASA built a Lunar Receiving Laboratory at the Johnson Mann Space Flight Center in Houston.
- 12:00And they did that in consultation with Army experts from Fort Detrick.
- 12:05And at the time, they made that decision to build the Lunar Receiving Laboratory.
- 12:10They also made a decision to build a facility at Fort Detrick.
- 12:15And that's where I spent some of my career. And we'll talk about that in a minute.
- 12:19So, again, it seems a little silly now, but back in 1969, there was this palpable
- 12:25fear of the astronauts bringing back space pathogens.
- 12:28And that fear was amplified when Michael Crichton published his fictional work, The Andromeda Strain.
- 12:35And that was clearly fictional, but it caught the attention of a lot of politicians and news media people.
- 12:43And wrapping all these things together in 1969, there was this strongly perceived
- 12:49need to do something about these new emerging pathogens, such as loss of fever.
- 12:57So the Apollo 11 astronauts, when they splashed down in the Indian Ocean.
- 13:04They were picked up by the aircraft carrier Hornet and they were immediately
- 13:08put into this mobile quarantine facility, which is a converted Airstream trailer.
- 13:14And they were taken to the Johnson Mann Space Flight Center,
- 13:17along with all of the other detritus from the space capsule.
- 13:23So the capsule itself, the moon rocks, the samples that were collected,
- 13:27were all taken to the Lunar Receiving Laboratory and quarantined for three weeks.
- 13:32And that was done partly because of, again, fear of space pathogens,
- 13:37also to give the astronauts some time away from the media and time to recover
- 13:43from prolonged weightlessness.
- 13:45The same thing was done with Apollo 12 and Apollo 14.
- 13:48After those three missions, after none of them revealed the presence of any
- 13:54moon pathogens, it was decided they didn't need to do this anymore.
- 13:58So, Apollos 15, 16, and 17, they didn't bother to quarantine the astronauts. So, I said the...
- 14:06Work that NASA did was done in conjunction with the military.
- 14:10And the military, at the same time they were building the Johnson-Mann Space
- 14:15Flight Center, the military was building its new research laboratory, again, the U.S.
- 14:19Army's Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick,
- 14:24Maryland. So the plans were drawn up, the blueprints in 1969.
- 14:30Construction started then, and it was opened in 1972.
- 14:34And when it opened, it had a two-bed clinical facility, which we used to call a BSL-4 facility.
- 14:42Now, remember that terminology of BSL-1234 was designed to apply to laboratories,
- 14:48not to clinical facilities, but we kind of bastardized it and applied it that way anyway.
- 14:54But this two-bed hospitalization facility had the same sorts of controls that
- 15:00you would expect in a BSL-4 laboratory.
- 15:03And the facility was affectionately called the Slammer, presumably because the
- 15:09very heavy steel airlock doors made a nice slamming sound when they were locked
- 15:15behind you and you were locked into this facility.
- 15:18But you can see the doctors, nurses, and technicians are working in spacesuits
- 15:23with air hoses supplying external air.
- 15:27You can see in the lower right-hand corner there, an air transportable isolator.
- 15:34That's the device we would use to transport patients from the place we picked
- 15:40them up to the slammer at Fort Detrick.
- 15:44In the lower left-hand corner, you can see the air transportable isolator actually
- 15:49docks to a docking port in the external wall of the building,
- 15:53and the patient is passed
- 15:54through a plastic sleeve into the slammer and never needs to leave.
- 16:00The isolation capability. And there in the upper right-hand corner,
- 16:05that was my job as I was the flight surgeon for this team.
- 16:08And my job was to lay there and let all the medics practice starting IVs on
- 16:12me and drawing blood and those sorts of things.
- 16:17So again, a unique facility, but it was two beds. That was our nation's entire,
- 16:25BSL-4, if you will, hospitalization capacity.
- 16:29Nowadays, things have advanced somewhat.
- 16:33We've gone from a system where the theory was enveloped the patient to a system
- 16:40where the theory is now enveloped the inside of the aircraft.
- 16:43So this is the transport isolation system, which the Air Force has developed over the last few years.
- 16:49And this is what we would use now to transport a patient.
- 16:52So it wouldn't be quite as claustrophobic, although I think being in this and
- 16:57having that fear that you've been exposed to Ebola, you know,
- 17:01a potentially highly lethal pathogen, still pretty unsettling.
- 17:05But again, at least this takes away a little bit of the claustrophobia from it.
- 17:10So, there were some problems with this slammer besides the fact that it was only two beds.
- 17:17First of all, it was underutilized. We admitted 21 patients to the slammer between
- 17:22the time it opened in 1972 until 1985.
- 17:28And then we didn't admit a single patient for 20 years from 1985.
- 17:34To 2004. And I think part of that is luck. Part of that is the fact that laboratory
- 17:39infection control procedures got better and better and fewer and fewer scientists
- 17:43got exposed to their experiment.
- 17:46But all of these admissions, all 21 of them were for quarantine.
- 17:53They weren't for isolation.
- 17:55And we're going to talk about the differences between isolation and quarantine.
- 17:59But basically, none of these patients were sick. They were all people who got
- 18:03exposed to highly hazardous diseases like Ebola and Lhasa.
- 18:09And the military made a decision to put them into this facility for quarantine
- 18:17and wait and see if they caught their experiment, so to speak.
- 18:22And fortunately, none of them did, and they were all able to walk out the front door.
- 18:27But because this slammer was very underutilized, that obviously caught the attention
- 18:31of the budget people and congressmen who were appropriating funds for this.
- 18:36And a decision was made that maybe we don't need to fund this.
- 18:40And then the company that supplied a lot of the equipment for this,
- 18:46its owner died in Britain and the company folded and it was getting difficult to get repair parts.
- 18:52And then probably most importantly, there were some serious issues with the
- 18:56Joint Commission. So back in 1972, when this facility started.
- 19:01Uh, open the fact that there was a two bed clinical facility and what was otherwise
- 19:05a research laboratory really didn't bother too many people.
- 19:09Um, but, uh, by, by 2000, uh, the fact that there was no, uh,
- 19:15significant clinical support, um,
- 19:19within 35 miles, our support was at Walter Reed army medical center,
- 19:2335 miles South, uh, of Fort Detrick.
- 19:25And that didn't sit very well with the Joint Commission.
- 19:28And then you all probably are familiar with the military and how things work
- 19:32in the military. There's rapid turnover. And so a lot of these highly trained
- 19:36technicians were constantly turning over and that made it difficult to continue to staff this.
- 19:42And then finally, civilians got into the business of providing biocontainment.
- 19:47And again, after the anthrax attacks of October 2001, Congress did what Congress does.
- 19:53They appropriated a lot of funds, A lot of academic institutions sought grants for those funds.
- 19:59And so we started building civilian counterparts to this military and NASA biocontainment apparatus.
- 20:08So the picture here is of my mentor and former boss, Phil Smith.
- 20:12He was chief of infectious diseases at Nebraska, and after the anthrax attacks,
- 20:18Congress appropriated money to the CDC, who partialed it out to the 50 states.
- 20:23And all 50 states got grants of some degree.
- 20:26Most states use that to buy drugs and vaccines for stockpile.
- 20:31Phil had the idea to build a civilian biocontainment unit. I met Phil when I
- 20:37was still on active duty.
- 20:39He sounded like he would have a great place for me to work after I...
- 20:47Got out of the military, so I started sucking up to him many years before I
- 20:51retired, and it worked. And so I left to join Phil at Nebraska upon my retirement
- 20:58from the military in 2015.
- 21:01So why a civilian biocontainment unit?
- 21:04Well, we've already talked about the fact that the terrorist attacks on the
- 21:09World Trade Center in September of 2001 obviously caught the attention in the world.
- 21:14That was followed three weeks later by the mailing of anthrax.
- 21:1822 people were sickened by those. 11 had inhalational anthrax and five of those died.
- 21:26That caught people's attention.
- 21:28In December of 2002, there was a huge tabletop exercise called Dark Winter that
- 21:34involved a lot of officials at the very highest levels of government.
- 21:40They used smallpox as a potential bioterrorist agent.
- 21:44I think the outcome of this tabletop exercise was so grim that it scared a lot
- 21:51of congressmen and senators, and that led to the appropriation, again, of funds.
- 21:56And that was followed closely by SARS outbreak in Canada and by a monkeypox
- 22:01outbreak in the United States.
- 22:04And so I think that's what led to Phil winning his grant. And you can say that
- 22:09our biocontainment unit in Nebraska
- 22:11traces its origins to the problem of bioterrorism. So why Nebraska?
- 22:17Well, we're located in the center of the country, and we're co-located with
- 22:21Offutt Air Force Base, which is the headquarters for U.S.
- 22:24Strategic Command. So we've got 12,000-foot runway. We can take evacuation planes
- 22:31from anywhere in the world, and we've got easy coordination with the military there.
- 22:37This was at the time when a new federal agency, the Department of Homeland Security,
- 22:43stood up. They had money.
- 22:45They were appropriating funds. And of course, we were interested in obtaining some of those funds.
- 22:52I told you the monkeypox, there was a big monkeypox outbreak in the upper Midwest.
- 22:56We had no cases in Nebraska, but our surrounding state, neighboring states had,
- 23:01many. There were 71 total cases. Fortunately, no one died.
- 23:05But there was some problems with health care workers being afraid to take care
- 23:09of patients. And I'll talk about that a little more in a second.
- 23:12Again, this was the time when SARS emerged. And then finally, we were lucky.
- 23:16We had a very, very active emergency preparedness community.
- 23:21An EMS department and stuff.
- 23:24So at this time, many cities, EMS departments were kind of shying away from
- 23:31this notion that they would ever transport an Ebola victim, for example,
- 23:36or a loss of fever or a smallpox victim.
- 23:38So for some reason, our community in Omaha kind of embraced this,
- 23:43and they embrace it to this day.
- 23:45They're proud of the fact that they are one of the few departments that is expert
- 23:51in managing some of these highly hazardous communicable diseases.
- 23:55So Phil got his grant, and we built the biocontainment unit in Nebraska that
- 24:00kind of took the place of the military's facility at Fort Detrick.
- 24:05So this is just a story of a little 10 year old girl, uh, Rebecca McClester.
- 24:10She got monkey pox, um, in Wisconsin in, uh,
- 24:14uh, at that, back at that time. And, uh, the doctors, uh, there,
- 24:19uh, at her facility refused to care for her, uh, fearful of bringing monkeypox
- 24:25back home, uh, to their own families and stuff.
- 24:28And so again, this was what, uh, one of the things caught Phil's attention.
- 24:33And, uh, uh, a lot of the appropriators vowed that this wouldn't happen again,
- 24:37that we needed a facility that could treat.
- 24:41And who had physicians and nurses who were willing to treat patients with these
- 24:46highly hazardous communicable diseases.
- 24:50Dina told you I spent three and a half years at the CDC. I was the military's
- 24:54liaison there. This is my CDC boss, Julie Gerberding.
- 24:58She was the director at the time, and she came down and cut the ribbon for the
- 25:03opening of our biocontainment unit there.
- 25:06Um, so we now, uh, have, uh, spread, uh, our capability throughout the nation
- 25:13through NEETEC, the National, uh, Emerging Special Pathogens Training and Education Center.
- 25:19That's a second degree acronym, an acronym within an acronym.
- 25:22The military would be proud of that.
- 25:25Um, so you could see, uh, number seven there, that's our facility in Omaha.
- 25:30We divide the nation up into, uh, FEMA regions and DHS regions. They mirror each other.
- 25:37And so we are the facility for Region 7.
- 25:40Region 6, which includes Texas, now has its own facility at UTMB Galveston.
- 25:46And you can see the rest of those facilities scattered throughout the country there.
- 25:50The three in black are the ones that are the three facilities that actually
- 25:55received Ebola patients during the 2014-2015 Ebola outbreak there.
- 26:01So they're the three with actual experience, um, in, in managing some of these
- 26:07highly hazardous communicable diseases.
- 26:09And, um, and they're the ones that have trained up a lot of the people that
- 26:13staff the other facilities, including ours here in Texas.
- 26:17So we've now, as a result of a lot of this thinking, divided the nation,
- 26:21um, uh, into various tiers of, uh,
- 26:25clinical capability based on their ability to deal with highly hazardous communicable diseases.
- 26:32So all healthcare facilities would fall in Tier D. They ought to be able to
- 26:36safely isolate patients who they suspect of being infected with a highly hazardous condition.
- 26:45They should be able to safely isolate them, not necessarily treat them,
- 26:49but isolate them until they can get them out of there.
- 26:53Tier C are the assessment centers, the ones that can initiate care and initiate diagnostic testing.
- 27:00And then Tier B are those capable of delivering specialized care throughout the course of illness.
- 27:06And the Tier A are the ones that are strategically positioned,
- 27:10the ones that you just saw that have access to a lot of sophisticated laboratory testing, can do,
- 27:18genetic analysis on strains and stuff like that.
- 27:22So we'll talk a little bit about our unit here. If you saw it in Nebraska,
- 27:26you would be very, very underwhelmed. It looks like a normal,
- 27:31very small hospital ward.
- 27:34All of its magic lies in the invisible aspects of it, but it's basically a five-room ward.
- 27:43Each of those rooms is potentially a double room So in theory,
- 27:48we could take care of 10 patients.
- 27:52In this facility. That assumes you could double them up. They would have to
- 27:56have the same disease in order to be doubled up.
- 28:00We also learned in taking care of Ebola patients here how much waste they generate,
- 28:08and how much nursing care is required to care for them.
- 28:11And there's no way we could take care of 10 Ebola patients.
- 28:15So, in fact, we probably couldn't take care of more than two at the same time,
- 28:21just because of all the resources they consume.
- 28:24We'll talk a little bit more about that in a minute. But I guess if you had 10,
- 28:29patients with an airborne disease, because airborne disease patients don't generate
- 28:33as much soiled linen and all that sort of stuff, in theory, we could take care of 10 patients.
- 28:40So we have a separate air handling system from the rest of the hospital.
- 28:45We have serial negative pressure gradation throughout it. So when you go from,
- 28:50the outer hallway into the inner hallway,
- 28:54you get into a more negatively pressurized environment.
- 28:58When you go from that inner hallway to the nurse's station, from the nurse's
- 29:01station to the back hallway, and from the back hallway to the patient room,
- 29:04you're going through serial negative pressure gradation. And all air out is double HEPA filtered.
- 29:11The standard is 15 air exchanges per hour.
- 29:16Every time I tested it, we'd have 26 to 28 air exchanges per hour.
- 29:19So very negatively pressurized, very...
- 29:22Frequent air exchange. The air is, again, HEPA filtered out.
- 29:27And one of the advantages we have, we have a BSL-3 laboratory on our campus
- 29:32because the Nebraska State Health Lab is actually on the University of Nebraska campus.
- 29:37And then we had a little lab, point of care lab in the biocontainment unit.
- 29:41So a lot of basic laboratory tests could be done without ever having to break
- 29:46containment, without ever having to take a specimen out of the facility.
- 29:51But those specimens that did need to leave the facility,
- 29:56for example, for more sophisticated analysis, we had the ability to bag,
- 30:01double bag, triple bag those specimens and then pass them out through a secure
- 30:06airlock to a transport system that would take them to the regular laboratory.
- 30:10And we drilled regularly with both civilian and military agencies.
- 30:15So when we talk about trying to control infection in this environment,
- 30:19we kind of borrow the Occupational Safety and Health Administration's hierarchy of controls.
- 30:25And not all of these apply necessarily in every case, but OSHA would say that,
- 30:32the best way of dealing with a hazard is to eliminate the hazard.
- 30:37So obviously, as a biocontainment unit, we can't do that. It's our job to take
- 30:41care of some of the most dreaded infectious diseases in the country.
- 30:48But when we talk about elimination, we can tell you, if you work at a community
- 30:53hospital, that that's what you should do.
- 30:55You should eliminate the hazard by sending the patient to us and not try to
- 31:01care for an Ebola victim in a small community hospital.
- 31:06We talk about substitution, replacing the hazard. That really doesn't apply in most cases here.
- 31:12But the bottom three are where we as a biocontainment unit differ from conventional
- 31:17hospital settings. So we have a significant number of engineering controls.
- 31:21We'll talk about those in a minute.
- 31:23We have a significant amount of administrative controls.
- 31:27We change the way, we limit who can enter the facility.
- 31:32We stipulate the type of training they need to have, et cetera, et cetera.
- 31:38And then finally, the bottom line is personal protective equipment.
- 31:41That's actually the bottom of the pyramid, the least effective way,
- 31:46but it does add protection to the other four mechanisms of protection.
- 31:53So just show you a little bit of our facility. So our air handling system vents
- 31:58out to the roof through double HEPA filters.
- 32:00There's no recirculated air. The exhaust air is more than 25 feet from any building intake.
- 32:07And we have, again, dual redundancy. And there's not only dual redundancy of
- 32:11the HEPA filters, but of the exhaust fan. So if one goes out,
- 32:15the other automatically kicks in. We've got a lot of digital.
- 32:20Equipment in the unit, inside the room, outside the room, at the nurse's station.
- 32:25We can monitor ambient temperature and humidity and air pressure,
- 32:31the negative pressure in the room, et cetera, et cetera.
- 32:34So there's some of our, again, specialized equipment.
- 32:37So the thing there on the left is an isopod. On the upper left is the isopod.
- 32:43That's how we would transport patients throughout the hospital if they needed
- 32:47to move throughout the hospital. Now, we try to limit that movement.
- 32:51And in fact, we never had to do that for any of our patients.
- 32:55We do have in-suite radiography and ultrasound.
- 33:00So we cannot do CT scan or MRI in the unit.
- 33:05And if we ever decided that that was absolutely critical, we would move the
- 33:10patient down to CT scan or MRI in this device.
- 33:14But again, we try to not do that if we don't have to.
- 33:17We try to get by with standard radiography and ultrasound. On the lower left
- 33:22there, that's the military's version of the isopod. It's painted green and it
- 33:26costs 10 times as much, but there you go. And then on the bottom right.
- 33:31Is the device that we seal remains in. So we had one patient succumb to Ebola.
- 33:39That made us the world's expert based on an N of one, I guess.
- 33:42And so we were constantly asked how to deal with potential deceased bodies,
- 33:49and that's a device for triple sealing them in plastic bags and stuff.
- 33:54So, we've activated our biocontainment unit three times.
- 34:00The first was for the Ebola outbreak in West Africa, in Guinea,
- 34:07Liberia, and Sierra Leone.
- 34:09So, these were all, you all probably remember the outbreak with about 42,000
- 34:15cases and 11,000 some deaths.
- 34:20But a number of American expatriates were,
- 34:25affected by that We had a lot of missionary doctors and nurses working,
- 34:31in West Africa And some of them caught this disease And so we felt that we owed
- 34:37it to these people to get them back to the United States for care,
- 34:42We brought 10 patients back We took care of three of those at,
- 34:46Nebraska and I'll talk about them a little bit in a second.
- 34:50And then in the very earliest days of the COVID pandemic, we took care of some SARS-CoV-2 patients.
- 35:00This was at a time when we still thought we had a shot at containing this pandemic.
- 35:06It soon became obvious that the horse was way out of the barn and we weren't
- 35:11going to be able to do that, but I'll talk about that in a minute.
- 35:14And then just recently, we admitted one patient with Andes virus.
- 35:19So you can see in the picture there, one of our Ebola patients in the room talking.
- 35:25To his wife. I don't know if he's,
- 35:28She's reading to him or she's reading because she's bored and he's complaining. But anyway, whatever.
- 35:35We have a facility where spouses and family can talk via Zoom to their loved ones in the unit.
- 35:42So getting to this unit, the aircraft lands either at Office Air Force Base
- 35:48or at Epley Airfield in Omaha.
- 35:51And I don't know if you know much about the geography here, but I think it's
- 35:56fascinating. The Missouri River separates Nebraska from Iowa.
- 36:01But back in the 1870s, there was a big flood shifted the course of the Missouri
- 36:06River, and it left this little enclave called Carter Lake, Iowa,
- 36:11completely surrounded by the state of Nebraska.
- 36:15I actually lived in Carter Lake when I was working in Omaha.
- 36:20So you can see in the upper right-hand corner of this map, there's Epley Airfield.
- 36:25That's where the aircraft lands. And it travels down Abbott Drive there to get
- 36:29to downtown Omaha to the medical center.
- 36:32And you can see Route 165 there is 500 meters long. It crosses 500 meters,
- 36:38half a kilometer of Iowa territory.
- 36:42Well, the governor of Iowa said that no Ebola patient would be transported through her state.
- 36:48And so that was a big political controversy. And we eventually ended up having
- 36:52to drive several miles around this little enclave so that we'd stay in Nebraska
- 36:59when we deliver these patients to the biocontainment unit.
- 37:02And then we take them in through the back door, through the side doors.
- 37:07We're not sneaking in the back door of the hospital. This is a side door.
- 37:11And they're transported up to the biocontainment unit. And you can see here,
- 37:15it's a fairly unimpressive looking facility.
- 37:18This is the outer hallway there. And I'm joking about the Ebola virus is not
- 37:23being permitted to cross the line.
- 37:25But the line is there just to warn people that they're entering a hotter zone.
- 37:31There's, again, serial negative pressured radiation as you go down this hallway
- 37:36and as you go into patient rooms and stuff.
- 37:38So again, we activated in 2014. We had three patients admitted to this facility.
- 37:46None of them were there at the same time. So all were there in series rather than in parallel.
- 37:54So the first one was admitted on day eight, discharged on day 21.
- 37:59And you can see the rest there. The third one, unfortunately,
- 38:04was in extremis in multi-organ failure before he even got on the aircraft in
- 38:10Africa and unfortunately didn't stand much of a chance and passed away on day three.
- 38:15That's the only death we've had so far.
- 38:19Okay, so that's a lot about the history and the show and tell of what we're doing in Nebraska.
- 38:27Now I want to talk a little more scientifically about this, though.
- 38:31So the question comes up, so who is a candidate for admission?
- 38:34You know, which diseases would we put in that type of a biocontainment unit?
- 38:42And the way I like to look at it is there are five criteria that we use.
- 38:47And the first three are illustrated in this diagram.
- 38:51So diseases that are highly infectious, highly contagious, and highly hazardous
- 38:57are those that are our big candidates for admission.
- 39:01So there are diseases that are very infectious, like brucellosis and Q fever.
- 39:05Both of those diseases, as little as a single organism can infect you.
- 39:11There are diseases that are highly hazardous. Anthrax, inhalational anthrax
- 39:16has a mortality rate approaching 100% in untreated patients.
- 39:22There are some diseases that possess a couple of these criteria.
- 39:27Tularemia is very hazardous and highly infectious.
- 39:31But it's the diseases that possess all three attributes, like Ebola.
- 39:36It's highly infectious, highly contagious, and highly hazardous.
- 39:40And those are the ones that are the targets for admission to the biocontainment unit.
- 39:45And I provide a little bit of data here. So Ebola, as little as one biocontainment.
- 39:51Particle or one plaque forming unit can cause infection.
- 39:55Anything with an R0 value, R0 is a number of secondary cases that emanate from
- 40:02a single primary case, and that figure
- 40:05applies only in the absence of any interventions or any herd immunity.
- 40:10So anything with an R0 greater than is capable of causing an outbreak, a pandemic, if you will.
- 40:20And so Ebola is highly infectious. It is communicable enough to cause an outbreak.
- 40:27And it's clearly highly hazardous. And we measure that by morbidity and mortality.
- 40:31And you can see the rest of that here. So there are certain influenza strains
- 40:36that would meet our criteria.
- 40:37You know, H7N9, H5N1 influenza in a human could potentially be a candidate for,
- 40:46admission to the biocontainment unit.
- 40:48And you'll see Andy's virus has an R0 well under one. We don't know what it
- 40:56is. No one's ever done the study, but it's clearly well under one.
- 41:00So it's not particularly communicable.
- 41:03And in all likelihood, we wouldn't need to admit an Andy's virus patient to
- 41:09the biocontainment unit. We did one.
- 41:11I suppose some of that is you've got it, you might as well use it kind of thinking.
- 41:15But certainly that type of facility wouldn't be necessary to safely manage one
- 41:21of these patients. So I said there were five.
- 41:24Criteria that we use. And I showed you the first three, but here's the fourth,
- 41:30and a very important one, and that's the presence or absence of countermeasures.
- 41:35And so polio, which this article is talking about, certainly meets the first
- 41:41three criteria. It's very infectious, it's very communicable,
- 41:45and I would argue it's pretty hazardous.
- 41:48But we can protect ourselves against polio. We have a very, very effective vaccine.
- 41:52So nurses and caregivers wouldn't need to worry about contracting polio from
- 41:59one of their patients should they ever be required to take care of a patient with polio.
- 42:04So we would not need to admit a polio victim to the biocontimum.
- 42:08And the same argument would apply for measles. Very infectious, very contagious.
- 42:12I would argue pretty hazardous. 200,000 children in the developing world still
- 42:16die every year of measles.
- 42:18But we certainly wouldn't need to admit a measles patient to the biocontainment unit.
- 42:23We would need to admit them to an airborne infection isolation room if we needed
- 42:28to admit them at all. Obviously, we try to keep patients with highly communicable
- 42:32diseases out of the hospital if we can.
- 42:36So when you apply those four criteria of infectivity, communicability,
- 42:40hazard, and presence or absence of countermeasures, what are you left with?
- 42:44These are the highly hazardous communicable diseases of concern.
- 42:47These are the kind of things that, you know, we might admit to our biocontainment of smallpox for sure.
- 42:54Plague, I put a question mark because you definitely would not need to do that for bubonic plague.
- 42:59You might consider it for pneumonic plague. Certainly, pneumonic plague has
- 43:03been managed successfully in conventional hospital settings,
- 43:07but you could say the same thing about all of these diseases.
- 43:10You could also say that all of these diseases have been unsuccessfully managed
- 43:15in conventional hospital settings. So that's one where we would consider it.
- 43:18Certain viral hemorrhagic fevers, monkeypox, you know, we have monkeypox in this country.
- 43:25We have not put those patients in a biocontainment unit.
- 43:29I suppose you could if you wanted to, but that is not a particularly infectious
- 43:36disease or contagious disease. It requires close body contact in order to contract it.
- 43:45SARS-CoV-2 met the criteria early on in the pandemic. We'll talk about that
- 43:51in a minute. We now have relatively effective countermeasures,
- 43:54and obviously the horse is so far out of the barn there.
- 44:00We don't have the beds to admit SARS-CoV-2 patients to biocontainment units.
- 44:05I'll just say a little bit about children in biocontainment units.
- 44:10The good news is we've never had to do that. We have not had a single admission
- 44:15of a child to a biocontainment unit yet in this country.
- 44:20We have put a lot of thought into it. This is a review of a lot of the issues.
- 44:27That would come up when you consider managing children in a biocontainment unit.
- 44:32If you're interested in that, you know, I would urge you to look this up or
- 44:37I'm happy to send you a link to the paper.
- 44:40There are some very troubling issues that would come up.
- 44:45The presence of parents in the room with a sick child with Ebola,
- 44:51for example, the wisdom of cohorting.
- 44:54If you had two children in a family with Ebola, you know, would you cohort those
- 44:58patients in the same room, et cetera, et cetera.
- 45:01And time doesn't permit us to talk about the specifics of these today.
- 45:06If you want to invite me back, Dina, we could talk, we could spend a whole hour
- 45:10talking about, you know, how these issues apply to children in a biocontainment.
- 45:15You know, suffice it to say, those are all problematic issues and there's not
- 45:19unanimity of opinion as to how we would deal with that.
- 45:23So let's move on to talk about isolation and quarantine specifically now.
- 45:28So I just want you to be aware, these are two very different things.
- 45:31The terms are often used inappropriately, but the CDC defines isolation as the
- 45:37mechanism by which ill persons with a communicable disease are separated from those who are healthy.
- 45:43And quarantine, on the other hand, separates well persons who may have been
- 45:49exposed to a disease but have not yet become ill with it. And that's an important
- 45:54distinction. We'll talk about that in a minute. So quarantine, I'll see you next time.
- 45:59Happens all the time. It's usually under the radar. It usually happens at a
- 46:05local level, and it's usually quasi voluntary.
- 46:09So if you get exposed to measles and you're not vaccinated,
- 46:15the local health department will likely tell if they become aware of your case,
- 46:20they will likely tell you to stay home and don't go to school,
- 46:26for the length of the incubation period.
- 46:29Same with chickenpox. If you get exposed to chickenpox and you're not immunized
- 46:34against chickenpox, the health authorities will tell you not to go to school
- 46:38until you complete your incubation period.
- 46:41This stuff happens all the time. It goes on all over the country.
- 46:45Local public health departments deal with this, and it's usually dealt with under the radar.
- 46:52But with that said, there are a small—and by the way, local health departments
- 46:58and state health departments are free to,
- 47:02prescribe which diseases they feel are worthy of quarantine.
- 47:08But federal law establishes the diseases subject to federal quarantine.
- 47:14And there are three executive orders written by President Bush and President
- 47:18Obama that specify the diseases that are subject to federal quarantine.
- 47:23So the federal government, the CDC, cannot order you into quarantine for other
- 47:29diseases. States can add to this, to the list and do that.
- 47:34And I like to divide these nine diseases into three categories of three each.
- 47:39And I divide them based on what would happen if I put you in quarantine and
- 47:43you actually got your disease. So remember, you're being quarantined because
- 47:47you've been exposed to something. You're not yet sick.
- 47:49And our hope is that if you're put into federal quarantine, you won't get sick.
- 47:54You won't catch the disease that you were exposed to. But what happens if you do?
- 47:59Well, if the disease in question is a certain viral hemorrhagic fever like Ebola,
- 48:06then I'm going to put you in a biocontainment unit. Uh, I would do the same for SARS or MERS.
- 48:11I'm lumping those two diseases together. Um, and I would do the same for smallpox.
- 48:16And then there are diseases for which I would definitely not put you in the
- 48:21biocontainment unit. And the three there are cholera, diphtheria, and yellow fever.
- 48:26And those are, I think, on the list of federally quarantinable diseases,
- 48:29mostly as an anachronism.
- 48:32The fact that they're on that list dates to an earlier time in public health and stuff.
- 48:37But clearly, diphtheria, we've got effective countermeasures.
- 48:40Yellow fever, we've got an effective vaccine.
- 48:42Yellow fever is not transmissible from person to person anyway,
- 48:46except through the bite of a mosquito. So the only reason to put them in isolation
- 48:50would be to protect the local mosquitoes.
- 48:52So, again, those are diseases that are theoretically subject to federal quarantine.
- 48:56I can't imagine they ever would be ordered into federal quarantine,
- 49:01but they certainly wouldn't need to go in a biocontainment unit.
- 49:04And then there are the three in the middle, the maybes. So XDR-TB,
- 49:08a particularly nasty strain of extremely drug-resistant TB, I might put them
- 49:13in the biocontamnative unit.
- 49:15Pneumonic plague, we already talked about, and certain strains of highly pathogenic
- 49:21avian influenza, maybe.
- 49:23Okay. Now this whole notion of quarantine, um, is, uh, built upon the fact that
- 49:30we're going to put you into a situation, um, until your incubation period has passed.
- 49:38But the dirty little secret is that if I trust you, uh, for the vast majority
- 49:44of diseases, you, we probably don't even need to do that.
- 49:47If I can trust you to take your temperature and watch your symptoms and report
- 49:55to medical authorities as soon as you become sick, then I don't need to put you in quarantine.
- 50:00I can let you go home and go about your lives. And that would be true for Ebola.
- 50:04So if I could trust you, if you got exposed to Ebola and I could trust you to
- 50:08let me know as soon as you develop the temperature, you don't need to go in a quarantine unit.
- 50:13And there really are only very few diseases that become contagious before they're symptomatic.
- 50:20And you can see those five here, flu, yellow fever, chickenpox, measles, and COVID-19.
- 50:26So those are the diseases where you may feel well, but you could actually be,
- 50:32walking around in public spreading the disease. Ebola is not one of those.
- 50:37So let's talk about our quarantine unit a little bit. This is outside of the
- 50:41Davis Global Center at the University of Nebraska.
- 50:44Beautiful building and the quarantine facility occupies one floor of this building.
- 50:49The rest of it's training and education center.
- 50:52So I ran this quarantine unit and we've activated it three times.
- 50:56So the first was in December of 2018 and we had a high risk Ebola exposure.
- 51:04And this person was a physician named Patrick. He's given me permission to tell his story.
- 51:09He's interesting because he's also been put into quarantine a second time during
- 51:14the current Ebola outbreak. He's a Christian missionary working in Democratic Republic of Congo.
- 51:20So he was working one day and a woman was wheeled into his clinic in extremis.
- 51:29She was delivering a dead fetus.
- 51:32She was bleeding all over. He reached out to help her, examined her quickly
- 51:38before they realized she probably had Ebola. So he had a very high risk exposure.
- 51:44Again, if I trust him, I can let him self-quarantine. I certainly trusted him.
- 51:49He was a physician, but there was a lot of political unrest in Congo at the time.
- 51:55There were threats made against this Ebola treatment center.
- 51:58He was due to come home for rest and relaxation anyway, but he didn't have a
- 52:02home to come home to because he lived permanently in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
- 52:08So we thought it was best to put him into the federal quarantine unit.
- 52:13Incidentally, he was the first person ordered into federal quarantine since
- 52:18smallpox roamed the earth in 1963.
- 52:21When I say ordered, he came voluntarily. But when I picked him up at the airport,
- 52:25we had an order in my back pocket in case he objected to it. He didn't.
- 52:31And he never caught his disease and walked out the front door to go back to
- 52:36Congo eventually. Then in early.
- 52:41February and March of 2020, in the very earliest days,
- 52:45of the COVID pandemic, we started to get patients being repatriated from China.
- 52:52So in early February, shortly after the pandemic was diagnosed,
- 52:59we had a plane flight, a voluntary,
- 53:03repatriation of 57 US citizens from Wuhan.
- 53:08Our quarantine unit, which had just recently opened, was 20 beds.
- 53:13So right out of the gate, we exceeded the capacity of our quarantine unit.
- 53:18And so we moved them to a place called Camp Ashland. I'll talk about that in a second.
- 53:22And then we got 15 Diamond Princess cruise ship passengers.
- 53:28You probably remember the story of the Diamond Princess cruise ship was stuck in a harbor in Tokyo.
- 53:33The passengers spent weeks confined to their, uh, staterooms on that cruise
- 53:40ship, uh, in the earliest days of the COVID pandemic before a plan was finally
- 53:45arranged out to move some of them back to.
- 53:48Uh, to the quarantine unit here in the United States.
- 53:51And then more recently, and I was not involved with this, but,
- 53:53uh, got this information, um, from my colleagues there.
- 53:58Uh, we had some of the patients from the MV Hondias cruise ship that were exposed to, um, the COVID.
- 54:05Andy Spires. So this is the aircraft that brings them to Omaha.
- 54:10We were very, very fortunate when we got these passengers because we had an
- 54:15empty DHL warehouse at the airport.
- 54:19Just happened to be empty, happened to be in good condition, reasonably clean.
- 54:23And so we were able to triage the patients here in this facility and not have
- 54:28to take them all to the medical center.
- 54:30Again, the first wave exceeded our capability. We were lucky again in that the
- 54:37Nebraska National Guard had a facility 20 miles west of Omaha, which was empty.
- 54:43They use it for training and there just didn't happen to be a training audience
- 54:47there at the time. So we were able to house these patients in the barracks at Camp Ashland.
- 54:53Same was not true with the Diamond Princess cruise ship when we got 15 patients.
- 54:58From there. So 13 of these patients were actually positive for COVID, SARS-CoV-2.
- 55:06Back then, if you'll recall, we didn't know what that meant.
- 55:08We didn't know how long a positive test was relevant.
- 55:15You know, did that indicate active infection? Did that indicate residual bits
- 55:21of DNA that were harmless, et cetera, et cetera? But we had a tiger by the ears.
- 55:26Once we had these patients in quarantine, it was going to be difficult to let them go.
- 55:31And eight of them remained positive for more than a month, the longest for 43 days.
- 55:39The two who were negative were discordant spouses.
- 55:42So they had spent a month with their positive spouse in the same room and yet never caught COVID.
- 55:49And we still don't know why that is, but we suspect they had some preexisting
- 55:53T cell immunity, probably as a result of some coronavirus infection earlier in life.
- 56:01So this is what the quarantine unit looks like. It's very unimpressive.
- 56:05It looks more like a holiday inn than a hospital facility. Okay.
- 56:11So I'm moving ahead quickly because I know I'm running out of time.
- 56:14We learned a lot of lessons by putting these 15 Diamond Princess cruise ship
- 56:18passengers in the quarantine year. First of all, people rally when they need
- 56:21to. These people, it was an honor taking care of them. They were great.
- 56:26Note that none of them were children, and I'm a pediatrician.
- 56:29It's probably a bad idea for me to take care of them. But again,
- 56:33I was more a hotel manager than I was a clinician.
- 56:35And anybody that got sick was quickly transferred to my adult infectious disease colleagues.
- 56:41We learned a lot about PCR and how it can be too sensitive because we were getting
- 56:47positive test results long after these patients were well and ready to go home.
- 56:54I say act as if the media are everywhere. They are one of our patients,
- 56:58a couple, a husband-wife couple from the cruise ship, actually owned a radio
- 57:02station in Santa Clarita, California.
- 57:05And they were broadcasting live via their iPad every day from our quarantine
- 57:09unit. So that was at first a little unsettling to know that every decision you
- 57:13made clinically was being broadcast to the country.
- 57:17But we got to be friends with them and it actually turned out pretty well.
- 57:21I'll just close by saying, you know, we've talked about isolation.
- 57:24We've talked about quarantine.
- 57:25There is kind of a gray zone between isolation and quarantine that we call recovery care.
- 57:31And that's what leprosaria and sanitaria are.
- 57:34And the facility there in the upper left is actually our very own Texas Center
- 57:40for Communicable Diseases down on the south side of town. A lot of ethical issues
- 57:45obviously raised by quarantine.
- 57:47One of my colleagues, Rachel Lookadu at Nebraska, has written a legal and ethics
- 57:52reference guide, if any of you are interested. Yeah.
- 57:57We also have an isolation and quarantine manual that goes over all the ins and
- 58:02outs of isolation and quarantine.
- 58:04Happy to send you one of these if you want. Just feel free to email me,
- 58:08and I'll be glad to get the book to you.
- 58:12So I said in the beginning that there are five criteria we use to decide when
- 58:16a patient needs to go into biocontainment. I showed you the first three,
- 58:20infectivity, communicability, and hazard.
- 58:22Then we talked about the fourth, and that's the presence or absence of countermeasures.
- 58:26And then finally, the fifth and final one, is there a heavy metal band named
- 58:32after it? So you can see here diphtheria, anthrax, Ebola, and plague.
- 58:36Those are all real punk rock bands.
- 58:39It was only a matter of time, but there's now a band called Coronavirus.
- 58:44And then finally, there's just a generic band called Virus. But I'd heard,
- 58:48last I heard, they were actually thinking of changing their name to Andes virus. So there you have it.
- 58:55These are some of our Nebraska patients finally getting to go home after 28
- 58:59days, leaving at the Omaha airport, not turning back to look at us with the camera.
- 59:06But anyway, thanks. Thank you for your attention. I apologize for going up to
- 59:10the very, very last minute.
- 59:12Okay, thanks, Dr. C. Slack. And thank you guys for attending Grand Rounds today.
- 59:16We will resume next week And I appreciate everybody being here Thanks a lot.