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Red Carpet Bombshells with Taylor Nolan · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Let's see, the Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: is a very friendly environment. We like to bring others
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  Speaker 1: in and welcome them into what we're doing, right, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: we sure do. And the person who's our co host
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  Speaker 1: today is somebody who I was just felt so familiar
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  Speaker 1: and comfortable with that when I ran into her at
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  Speaker 1: jingle Ball, I hugged her, I think, and I was like, so,
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  Speaker 1: it's a good to see you. And I realized afterward
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  Speaker 1: that I had never met her in person. But that's
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  Speaker 1: just how it is with this show. You feel like
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  Speaker 1: you know someone before you meet them for real and
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  Speaker 1: bends absolutely. Then you also have never met this co host.
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  Speaker 1: You would you like to introduce the girl who's sitting
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  Speaker 1: next to me? I would, Yeah. So we know her
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  Speaker 1: from the Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise. She's a fan favorite,
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  Speaker 1: has an incredible story to tell with twists and turns,
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  Speaker 1: just like we all do. Taylor, No One, Welcome, Welcome,
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  Speaker 1: It's almost here his podcast. Thank you for having they
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  Speaker 1: excited to be here. Taylor, for all the listeners out there,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna sit around with us all day today, talk
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  Speaker 1: hot topics, and there's plenty of them, but let's get
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  Speaker 1: started with you. We know you, uh from whose season
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  Speaker 1: of the Bachelor, and then what how would fans know
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  Speaker 1: you from your time on Paradise? Yeah, so I was
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  Speaker 1: on Nick next season that was season one, Um left
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  Speaker 1: on the two on one, was a bit controversial with
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  Speaker 1: Karin with Karin um, yes, and then I was on
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  Speaker 1: Paradise and was engaged with Derek. Fun stuff. Well we'll
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  Speaker 1: get into that later. Yes, we have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Derek questions to pepper you with, but right now we're
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  Speaker 1: going to just that, Taylor. Right now, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about our hot topics. Both you and I were
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  Speaker 1: at jingle Ball. Hannaby was there. We didn't see her.
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  Speaker 1: We had a whole Bachelor crew in the forum lounge
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  Speaker 1: and it was it was you, me, Chris Souls who
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  Speaker 1: made his first appearance since his accident two and a
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  Speaker 1: half years ago. Um, then it was Jared Dean, Kaylin,
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  Speaker 1: Christian Haggarty Demise ex fiancee, and um who was my
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  Speaker 1: missing Angeline Catherine? Uh yeah, Angela and I think that
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  Speaker 1: was it. But yeah, but we did see Hannah. That's unfortunate.
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  Speaker 1: I wish she was there. Yeah, it's actually I saw
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  Speaker 1: her at the red carpet did Yeah, briefly saw her there, um,
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  Speaker 1: but then yeah, she was nowhere else to be found. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure she is. She probably just wanted to get
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  Speaker 1: in and get out. I saw her there. No, she
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  Speaker 1: was there all night. Oh really half the night with
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  Speaker 1: her backstage a little bit. And I don't say like
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  Speaker 1: getting get out. I mean like that girl is so busy.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like she's NonStop at appearances. So mhm, it's
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  Speaker 1: a busy world for a what do they call that thing?
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  Speaker 1: What's the ball that they went on Dancing with the stars,
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  Speaker 1: the Busy Life, the Mirror Ball winner, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: I wonder I can't remember back when, but Hannah has
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  Speaker 1: kind of caught fire here recently. I do think it's
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  Speaker 1: weird that she didn't see you, although I mean I
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  Speaker 1: would have loved to meet some fellow bachelor people. Well,
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  Speaker 1: now you're making like it's like shady, but there's no
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  Speaker 1: shade to it. So but there is shade. There is
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  Speaker 1: There is a component of shade that we can play here,
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  Speaker 1: and that is the fact that Christian came but Demi
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  Speaker 1: canceled last minute. So is it possible that she was
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  Speaker 1: too nervous to be at the same event as Christian
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  Speaker 1: And I don't mean to be a bleep talker. Amy's arrived.
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  Speaker 1: That cost me that she canceled at the last second. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: why what were you going to do? And I don't
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  Speaker 1: mean to be like that, but like I really was
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  Speaker 1: not happy about it. She canceled like an hour before
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  Speaker 1: the limo was already sitting outside her house before because
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  Speaker 1: you got our driver and stuff. You mean why it
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  Speaker 1: was so expensive? Yeah, I got our driver, and I
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  Speaker 1: can't cancel a driver. I don't know if people listening,
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  Speaker 1: Like a lot of times when their celebrity events, you
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  Speaker 1: send a car and and Taylor is probably sitting there
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  Speaker 1: going I didn't get a car. Okay, I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 1: tell the story because whatever. I don't care, Like I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to get a call from the Bachelor people, but
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  Speaker 1: they already know I'm super mad. So originally we invited
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  Speaker 1: them when they were together, and so then they broke up.
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  Speaker 1: So I was asked, are you fine to still have
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  Speaker 1: them both? And I said, of course, Like I would
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  Speaker 1: never uninvite somewhere, So I said, yeah, and they can
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  Speaker 1: both bring a guest, no problem. So then it got
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  Speaker 1: a little dicey, like I started getting emails like are
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  Speaker 1: they gonna be sitting near each other? And I don't lie.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, look, it's not that big, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, there's like some parties where they were
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  Speaker 1: going to definitely be like at the burger stand together.
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  Speaker 1: So then like two hours before I guess it was
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  Speaker 1: to know an hour before because the car was at
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  Speaker 1: her house waiting for her. They said she wasn't coming,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean, I don't know if you guys know this,
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  Speaker 1: but like I'm not the calmest person or the sweet
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  Speaker 1: is I mean, I was so ticked because the seats
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  Speaker 1: we gave you guys are good. Yeah, that was completely
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  Speaker 1: sold out. Those tickets are between five each. So wait,
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  Speaker 1: did she call you to tell you that she wasn't coming? No,
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  Speaker 1: someone else called me to say she wasn't coming, And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, could she just have decided this? Two days ago?
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  Speaker 1: People were begging for the tickets, like do you know
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  Speaker 1: Romeo Romeo? Miller told Romeo yes, And I told that
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  Speaker 1: guy know I know, So I guess I have a
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  Speaker 1: right to be I don't know, you guys judge if
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  Speaker 1: I have a right to be mad or not well.
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  Speaker 1: I think last minute cancelations for anything that's business oriented
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  Speaker 1: is never never looks good. I mean, if she didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to, I think you have an issue that you said,
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  Speaker 1: not a little Romeo. I think she could have canceled
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  Speaker 1: on you weeks at something and she was getting nervous.
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  Speaker 1: I totally understand that. Like I'm sure I have like
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  Speaker 1: boyfriends where I don't want to be at the same part.
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  Speaker 1: You definitely would kind of do this, but not in
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  Speaker 1: a business context, Like you would never do that in
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  Speaker 1: a business context, but you would definitely avoid an ex
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  Speaker 1: boyfriend sometimes because I just don't need the diarrhea, Like
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  Speaker 1: it just makes me so nervoud. Well, I've got with Christian,
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  Speaker 1: I got to know her a little bit better, and
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  Speaker 1: she's kick ass. I love her. She's so awesome. She's
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  Speaker 1: like comes across a little bit differently than she does
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  Speaker 1: on the show. I didn't I didn't watch her on
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  Speaker 1: the show, but she was a total badass and I
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  Speaker 1: loved her. I mean, we hung out. I went back
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  Speaker 1: to her place afterwards and hung out and she was
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  Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic, just such good vibes. And Katherine to like
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  Speaker 1: freaking loved Katherine. Yeah, she comes off a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more mellow on TV, like even Keel, but she's like
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  Speaker 1: a little bit spicier in her life. And um, we
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  Speaker 1: should also mention that Demi met Christian through Katherine, and
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  Speaker 1: you guys may not may or may not remember her
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  Speaker 1: from the first two weeks of Colton season. They've been
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  Speaker 1: best friends since like childhood together, and they moved from
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  Speaker 1: Florida together to l A last year. And it was
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  Speaker 1: Katherine who was good friends with Demi from the two
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  Speaker 1: weeks that she was on Colton. Susan who introduced her
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  Speaker 1: and Demi. Yes, question Demi, anyway, Ben, are you feeling
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  Speaker 1: left out because you were not jingle Bold? No? No,
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  Speaker 1: I was just letting you guys do your thing. Do
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  Speaker 1: you know what other Dirk came from jingle Ball? Dean
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  Speaker 1: said something on the red carpet. He said, I just
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  Speaker 1: saw this. He goes, uh, marriage will absolutely not be
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  Speaker 1: happening between me and Kaitlin. And now what do you
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  Speaker 1: think about that comment there? Had did he did he
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  Speaker 1: do this? Because he's Dean and he says stuff and
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  Speaker 1: then he gives his little smirk like, oh, this is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be funny later and then it's not because we're
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  Speaker 1: all just like and like Caitlin's Kylin standing there like
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  Speaker 1: rolling her eyes because she knows that, like, Dean's just
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  Speaker 1: trying to get under your skin. Was this where this
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  Speaker 1: came from? Probably pull every red carpet. It's so funny
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  Speaker 1: when you're sitting next to him and you're like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, you just did it again. Yeah, and he
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  Speaker 1: knows he does it, Like, let's stop. Okay, Dean is charming,
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  Speaker 1: charm is deceitful, so like, let's understand, like he knows
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  Speaker 1: what he's doing. He says this and knows that everybody's
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  Speaker 1: gonna get an uproar about it. It's gonna be a headline.
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  Speaker 1: Klin is gonna roll her eyes knowing that he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean it. That at this point they probably haven't even
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  Speaker 1: talked about it, and he's it's just Dean being Dean,
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  Speaker 1: which we should not always forgive. So I'm not forgiving
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  Speaker 1: my friend here. I'm saying, Dean, you're wrong, stop doing
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  Speaker 1: this the USSI Weekly article. That's not gonna stop, he says.
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  Speaker 1: When asked if a wedding would ever happen between he
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  Speaker 1: and Kaylin, he said that's never gonna happen. The alum
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  Speaker 1: joked to us weekly she does joke around about us
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  Speaker 1: getting married all the time, and I always say, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: not gonna happen. I don't know. I'm super unconventional, and
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  Speaker 1: she obviously is a little more conventional. We joke around
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  Speaker 1: about it. Just try to keep expectations to a minimum,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Like I said on the show, under promise
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  Speaker 1: over deliver it. I just I cannot imagine dating him.
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  Speaker 1: Could you imagine dating a guy like back Taylor? I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I have in the past, and I've regretted it.
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  Speaker 1: We got Derek. No, I don't know that there's different
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  Speaker 1: levels there, but no, I think Dean, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: he's very charming, but I think there's a lot like
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  Speaker 1: when you peel back the layers and actually get to
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  Speaker 1: his vulnerable side, like there's a lot there and he really,
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  Speaker 1: he really is a great, great guy, great human. He
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  Speaker 1: has so much there, yes, yes, and he cares about
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  Speaker 1: Klein a lot. So let's let's let's speak for Dean
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  Speaker 1: here because he needs it. Is after being around him
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  Speaker 1: at Jingle Ball, is Klin and Dean's relation ship does
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  Speaker 1: it feel like it's progressing? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. That was
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  Speaker 1: my first time meeting her, and I was asking her
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about just like they're traveling, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and like does she feel like she likes keep up
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  Speaker 1: with him? And she is very much just like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I love it, like if I'm here in l life
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  Speaker 1: like more than two days, and like where are we going?
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  Speaker 1: Like I want to go somewhere. And I was like, okay, good.
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  Speaker 1: Then that makes a lot of sense that the two
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  Speaker 1: of you would like pair together and enjoy this kind
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  Speaker 1: of lifestyle together. So that's so cute. It seems really
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  Speaker 1: really get together. I was joking with her too, It
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  Speaker 1: was like, Um, every time I see you guys on
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  Speaker 1: Instagram talking about the last eleven mile hike you went on,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, she really likes him. All right, let's
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  Speaker 1: move on. Karin Olympios your your best friend. You're Bessie,
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  Speaker 1: the f F from next season is now single. Um
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  Speaker 1: didn't know that. Yeah, she's had a boyfriend for I
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  Speaker 1: guess like about a year. Anything to say sorry it
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  Speaker 1: didn't work out. We'll just move on to the next
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  Speaker 1: the next line here, Ben, you want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: Peter's press release for the season and how you feel
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  Speaker 1: like this one might be a little bit different than
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  Speaker 1: normal premiere press releases because I found um a red
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  Speaker 1: not a red flag, but something that sticks out to me,
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  Speaker 1: what sticks out to you? Dash It says that this
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  Speaker 1: episode doesn't end with the rose ceremony and then it
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  Speaker 1: goes straight into group dates. Every year they mix it up.
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  Speaker 1: I uh, I'm trying to figure out how that would work,
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  Speaker 1: but it's gonna be fun to watch. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: like that they change the format up. I helped me
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  Speaker 1: stay more unpredicted. I think, well, every year we complain
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  Speaker 1: about the Bachelor and the Bachelor at premiere because like
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  Speaker 1: it's so formulaic at this point, and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: they probably have heard that from fans too much to
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  Speaker 1: not change it. And here we go, here's the change.
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  Speaker 1: So we probably are going to get a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a a shorter version of that night one. We may
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  Speaker 1: not get to know the the rejectees at all. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they'll just be in and out. Dang, Yeah that's quick.
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  Speaker 1: We also in the season premiere press release get a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more detail on Hannah Bee's role in this season,
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  Speaker 1: So we do see her step out of the limo,
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  Speaker 1: and it does seem like that is what you know.
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  Speaker 1: She steps out of the limo on night one, and
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  Speaker 1: then she makes another appearance so she she hosts a
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  Speaker 1: group day in which the women will be revealing their
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  Speaker 1: most memorable sex stories, stories, and fantasies in front of
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  Speaker 1: a live audience. Ben, how do you feel about this?
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  Speaker 1: How many? How many years in a row? Are we
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  Speaker 1: going to do sex stories early this early on? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're seeing it. It's no longer
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  Speaker 1: the story that it was before, but I mean in relationships,
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  Speaker 1: it's part of it, and this show is based on relationships,
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  Speaker 1: so we're gonna talk about it forever. Um. I don't
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  Speaker 1: love how it becomes like the massive storyline of the season.
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  Speaker 1: I do think it helps the audience. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how I even feel about this, but it does help
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  Speaker 1: the audience get to know the couple better. If we
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  Speaker 1: know they've been intimate like that, that gives us some
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  Speaker 1: context to where their relationship is at. Why it is
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they're so connected and they you know, understand each
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  Speaker 1: other so well. The one thing I don't love is
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  Speaker 1: I really don't want to sit and watch an hour
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  Speaker 1: worth of TV. Why people talk about their sex fantasies
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  Speaker 1: like This isn't that show to me? Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know how they can make that clean for like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the eight o'clock hour on ABC. Al Right,
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  Speaker 1: we have a couple other hot topics, including more about
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  Speaker 1: Hannah By, But first we have a doctor coming on
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  Speaker 1: to talk about J. P. Rosenbaum, Ashley's husband, Bachelor at
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  Speaker 1: was just diagnosed with. You gotta take the call. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the phone. Hello, Dr Jeannette, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Thank you. So you're a
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  Speaker 1: medical news expert, family and emergency medicine doctor and we
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  Speaker 1: have to know I need you do explain this. This
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  Speaker 1: the syndrome. Is it a syndrome that JP Rosenbaum has.
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  Speaker 1: It's called yeah, Dion Bret the elves kind of silent
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  Speaker 1: but yeah. So this is a very rare but potentially
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  Speaker 1: immune system it attacks its own healthy cells, it attacks
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  Speaker 1: and it affects your motor nerves and your sensory nerves.
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  Speaker 1: So you have trouble walking and you have numbness and
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  Speaker 1: tingling um and difficulty with sensation. And the danger is
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  Speaker 1: that you normally not sometimes you start to have paralysis
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  Speaker 1: and weakness, beginning in your feet and it slowly moves
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  Speaker 1: up to your legs, to your knees, to your waist.
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  Speaker 1: And then the reason why it becomes life threatening is
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  Speaker 1: it can affect your diaphragm. So if your diaphragm becomes
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  Speaker 1: fairly you can't breathe. And so I've had patients you
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  Speaker 1: know that have had to be on ventilators because of
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  Speaker 1: this um of this condition which usually is triggered or
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  Speaker 1: preceded by an infection like that your restaurtoy tech track
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  Speaker 1: in section or you know, like a stomach bug where
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you have some nausea or vomiting or diarrhea. So it
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: can be from a virus, it can be triggered by
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: a bacteria. Um, we don't know exactly what. But the
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: key is early diagnosis, and you know that tends to
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: lead to a better outcome, such as in JP's condition.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Thank goodness he sought treatment early, otherwise it could really
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: have affected him. So unlike most neurological diseases, this is
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: this is actually caught and caught kind of because you
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: have some you catch, you know, like you said, um,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: a stomach bug, and then it develops from there. Right.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: So sometimes somehow, for example, there's a bacteria called campblow
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: back or UM. This has been found in many people
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: who were diagnosed with a Guillan beret UM. And and
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: that's a bacteria. For example, maybe you were under the weather,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: or you ate the bad food that was contaminated, or
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: you just had a cold, just a simple virus and UM,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: and that virus went and affected and attacked. It triggered
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: your immune system to attack itself. And and so that's
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: how it starts. But we don't know the exact cause. UM.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: There could also be a genetic predisposition. The scientists are
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: still you know, studying and researching this condition. But the
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: key again is if you catch it early, you can
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: potentially prevent any serious long term sequela. UM. You know,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: we can get you treated with I D medications that
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: we call immunoglobin m I D immunoglobin or a plasma
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: exchange and that can help um with the progression of
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: this condition. UM. There's not a cure for it, but UM,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: you know a lot of people can recover over time.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: It can take weeks two months to recover. A lot
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: of physical therapy is sometimes needed. Some people don't recover
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: if it's not diagnosed in a timely manner um. But
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: the good thing again is that it's rare. But I've
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: seen it before and I was able to, un fortunately,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: thank goodness, diagnosed it and find it and catch it
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: early in a young patient that I once had in
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the e er and I quickly sent him to the
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: neurologist and we got him started on medications where we
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: were able to prevent him from having any serious complications
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: trouble breathing and keep him off a ventilator. So JP
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: said that he can't drive his skins to school right now.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: He can't even to t M I wipe his own butt. Uh,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: how fast is the onset of symptoms? So everyone is
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: different than you know. For example, the patient that I had,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: it's been it was a couple of weeks. He slowly
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: had just a little bit of numbness and tingling in
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: his legs, and then it was getting worse. He actually
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: wants to see another doctor who said, oh, you're just hyperventilating,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: and then um, Luckily he came back as he was
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: instructed and we ran some tests. And you know, there's
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: a test called a lumbar puncture which can tell you
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: if you have a certain amount of type of protein
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: in your body. And UM, so everyone is different. It
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: can it doesn't usually hit you suddenly. It's usually progressive,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe over days or weeks, and then it
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: can hit you UM hard after that if you don't
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: take precaution, if you don't get treated. But everyone is
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: different as far as how fast it attacks and how
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: severe your symptoms will be. Some people they don't have
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: very serious symptoms UM, and they can recover, but some
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: it can be. As you see with Jp, UM hospitalize.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: He's gonna need physical therapy. You probably can't drive because
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: his body is still weak. UM. Then that numbness and
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: tingling in the weakness is because of the damage to
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the nerves. The body is strong and it attacks itself
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: in an effort to fight off you know, this infection. UM.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: This is what we call antigen It recognizes that there's
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: something off in the body, and that's why the body
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: turns on itself. But fortunately for him, he's young, healthy overall,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: and hopefully with time and physical therapy he will UM.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: You know, improve and maybe maybe even a full recovery.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: All right, well we hope, so thank you so much
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: for giving us some more insight onto on this syndrome.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: But absolutely I prest throw out to Jake hopefully he'll
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: continue to do well him in his family. Yes, all right,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: thank you, Dr Jeannette, talk to you soon. Bye, You're welcome,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: have a good one. So I mentioned I wasn't done
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: talking about hand to be in her role in Peter's season,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: It says in this press release, You guys, you have
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: to go read the press release because it's chuck full
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: of juicy stuff. It says that you know, she comes
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: out of the limo and that she hosts a group date.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: But not only that she um She says that after
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: after this group date, Peter discovers Hannah backstage distraught and
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: what she shares with him is going to leave them
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: both very confused, it says, and they're both going to
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: possibly question whether they still have feelings for each other
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: and if it's mutual, and if Hannah will continue to
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: date Peter in a bachelor house full of other women.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: That seems a little unrealistic to me that she would
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I know, you meant It seems a litt unrealistic to
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: me that she would stay there to do all of that. Right,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: There's absolutely no chance she's gonna she wins the Mirror
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Ball Trophy and then she's gonna go just like leaving
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: that bunks again. Yeah, absolutely not. The timeline is interesting
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: because it was before Yeah, well we know she went
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: on to do Dancing with the Stars and had to
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: train countless hours a day, so she obviously did not
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: join his season. I think the big mystery here is
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: what does she tell him my fear? I mean, like,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: this is I prob being just like played by all
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: the promos. But I guess my faery is that she says, Hey,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: like I have other opportunities. I'm going to go pursue them.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Work on myself. You know, I think I should be
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: single now. But if for some reason, you keep thinking
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: about me through this process and I keep thinking about you,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: then you know, then let me know. Yeah, she could
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: be like, have this experience, but then afterwards, if I'm
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: still in your mind, then maybe we should touch base
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: because you've been on my mind. Yeah all right, yeah,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I mean I I we'll see, we'll have to see.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: It's less than one month until the premiere of Peters
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: season and I do love the tagline of this season,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: expect turbulence. Isn't that cute? It's a good one. Some
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: more Bachelor hot topics, Caitlin and Jason adopted a new dog,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: another Golden Retriever, through Bunny Bunny Babies, which is a
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: really awesome uh foundation that goes and gets dogs over
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: in Asia that are in shelters. They're really high kill
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: shelters over there, or um in meat markets, which is
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: even scarier. So it's very nice to see them add
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: their new addition of Pino too. They're very cute baby Ramen,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: very cute. Um. Dylan and Hannah recently discussed their wedding
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: and they said that whenever it is that Hannah be Demi, Keatie, Heather,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: and Mike Johnson will all be invited. I feel like
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Dylan is connected with a lot of Backster Nation. I
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: don't know who Hannah's like group of friends are, but
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I always see Dylan with a group of dudes. I'm
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: surprised there's not more names here. Yeah, Like there's gonna
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: be Peter there and and Tyler Cameron. Right. I think
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: their wedding is going to be an incredible event. I
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: have a feeling that's going to happen soon, and we
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: think I think it might too. I think it might
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: actually be next summer. Now, do you think that there's
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: a kind of couple that would get married on Bachelor
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: in Paradise? Yes? Really, I mean, I don't know. That's
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: just my that's just my a judgment. This My judgement
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: of myself is that I'm the kind of person that
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: would get married Bachelor Paradise, and I didn't want to
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: do it that way. So, I mean I feel like
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: they would. Um, Bachelor Paradise alums Daniel McGuire and Robbie
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Hayes their back on reality TV. Robbie is on uh
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: cs A Key and Daniel McGuire is on the new
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: season of X on the Beach. So, if you guys
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: are hardcore Bachelor fans and you want to watch them
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: in there, there you go. Who knows, Taylor's got a
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: face right now? What's the face saying? That's just yeah,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of judgment slightly, Yeah, it's a lot of Um,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, Daniel's in Vancouver and from
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: what I know, he's like still just you know, live
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: in single life China, trying to make things work. And yeah, Robbie,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, good old Robbie. Were you on seasons with
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: both of them? I was, yes, yeah, both of them.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Daniel was with Lacy, which was like disaster, um, and
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: yeah Robbie was with Amanda. Yeah. Yeah. Dannie McGuire's gonna
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: be one of the weirdest guys I've ever met. And
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the final tidbit of Bachelor news that we got for
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: you is Bachelor alum Becca Martinez is pregnant with baby
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: number two. She announced on Instagram over Thanksgiving break. Do
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: you know Becca, I do not. I was actually thinking
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I was going to meet her this l a trip.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: We're going to do a pod swap, but scheduling does
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: not work out, So yeah, I have yet to meet her.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: And then I was supposed to go to Kendall had
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: like a white Elephant party thing on Saturday. I was
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: going to go to and then got caught up in
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: some other things so it didn't make it there, but
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: would have met Becca there if I had gone. Darn itt.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Becca is the best I love her and um, I
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: love how she's so unfiltered and unscared to say certain things,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: and she's been opened about this, this pregnancy being more
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: planned than the other one. Yes, yeah, I feel like
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: we always get tagged in similar things, like I'll get
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: tags in certain comments of like me and her discussing
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: similar topics and having similar personalities on on social media.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: So I had always wanted a meter and hopefully one
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: of these days that it works out. Yeah, all right, Ben,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: should we take a break and then get into the
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: dirty with Taylor? Sounds great. This is the time of
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: year where you kind of want to stay home more often.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: It gets dark early, it's cold. You just kind of
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: want to stay home, be on the couch with a cozy,
• 27:20
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• 27:23
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• 27:26
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• 27:29
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• 27:44
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• 27:49
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• 27:58
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• 28:23
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• 28:26
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• 28:28
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• 28:30
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• 29:13
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• 29:17
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• 29:20
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• 29:24
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• 29:28
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• 29:31
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• 29:33
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• 29:38
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• 29:41
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• 29:44
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• 29:47
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• 29:52
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• 29:56
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• 29:58
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• 30:01
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• 30:05
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• 30:08
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• 30:12
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  Speaker 1: smartest way to higher Alright, Taylor, So we all know
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: you from the Derek and Taylor relationship on the show.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: We're often so just like glued to the person that
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: we had a televised relationship with, and you become kind
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: of one in the minds of Bachelor fans. Yeah, So
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: how do you feel about that glue right now? Because
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like your face says you don't really like it. Yeah,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I mean like I'm not glue to him anymore, you know. Um,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: it was a solid almost a year of my life
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: where we were very much attached and I get that,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, like he's his own person with
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: his own life now, and I'm my own person with
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: my own life now. And it's not like I get
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: it's always gonna be a part of my life. It's
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: a part of my story, Um, just way more public
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: and in my face than most relationships. So it's a
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: little different and feels a little old at times, but
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I mean it's also like a very special relationship to me.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: So can you give us a time one of your relationship.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: So you guys met on Bachelor in Paradise four four
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I think it was four Yeah? Yeah? Was it four? Yeah? Okay,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: So then you were together for a year, right we
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: lit a little less, Yeah, we were. We met in
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: June and then we're engaged on the reunion show, which
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: was an August, and then broke up in like May June. Okay, yeah,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I think it was like we were publicly broken up
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: in like June, and then he took a year in
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: between the breakup to go on Bachelor in Paradise this
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: past season. Yes, yeah, did you want to get engaged
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: on that August re union show? No, I feel like
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: it was obvious watching you. Yeah, Um, yeah I did.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I was not in that place, and I did make
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: that clear. I think that wasn't. Yeah, so no, I did,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I didn't, And I think you know, there's a lot
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: of reasons why why it did happen. Um, And yeah,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: that was a big part in us breaking up as well.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: But what do you mean there was a lot that
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: went into that. You said there was a lot of
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: decisions that happened. When when I say that, when people
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: are like, oh, you know, like, were you expecting to happen,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm like no, because I was clear that I
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: didn't want so I didn't expect to happen. Um, a
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: lot of people are like, oh, well, you know, he
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: must just been manipulated by producers all that, and I'm
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: like no, because they also knew that I didn't want that,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: and I like, I think part of it also was
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: really just he really wanted that, Like he really saw that,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and I saw it as an opportunity, And I don't
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: think there was anything like malicious in it of him
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: being like, oh, I'm going to get her in those
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: relations shows. Um. But yeah, I mean even like friends
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: that have seen him since then, Um, like a few
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: months ago, one of my friends hung out with him
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: and it's just like he was like, yeah, like I
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: was really in love with her, like I really really
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: loved her, And I'm like, oh, yeah, like I think
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: he really thought. Yeah. So you're saying it's not for
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: military storiesons. You're saying it's not because the producers talked
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: him into it, and you said that it's something he
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: really wanted. Now, did he really want to just be
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: with you forever? Did he want to like get married
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: or did he want to have a televised bachelor engagement
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: and being a bachelor engaged couple. Yeah, I have thoughts
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: on that. Um. I think part of it is that, Yeah,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: he just really wanted you know, uh, he really wants
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: a family, He wants that life, he wants to have
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: someone in his life like that. Um. I think part
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: of it was, yes, he saw me as that person.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: But I think the other part of it sure is
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: also that piece of attention and you know, just continuing
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: something like when you know you want to long term
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: date someone, you take the opportunity to just get engaged
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: on the show to then have all that extra stuff
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and whatever else. So I think I think that was
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: part of it. But I'm not him, so I can't
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: say how does having this like relationship to fine you
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: mean we're still talking about today, how does it affect
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: your like dating life and any other relationship since then?
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: It's caused me to be super intentional and super assertive
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: in my relationships now. Um, but just in terms of
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: like people perceiving me and whatnot from this relationship. It's
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: it's a weird thing, you know, because I don't necessarily
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: can ssider myself to have been engaged. Like it's a
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: weird thing. I look at it as like this alternate universe,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: like an alternate reality life that I was in. Um so,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: but to other people it's like, wow, like you were engaged,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: like you had this like full out thing and and
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: um I think it makes other people when they first
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: start dating me, think that I want all of those things,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: which I do on some level right, but not in
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: that way. Um but yeah, it's caused me to just
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: be a lot more intentional and assertive and like creating
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: my relationships today, I want like my first thought, I
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: know our listeners are things, this is like why would
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: you say yes? I don't think I actually said yes.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I was just crying and I was like shaking my
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: head like I literally you did it. I was literally
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: in shock, like I've literally never already. When I walked
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: out there on stage, I like black out immediately because
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: the last time I was on stage like that was
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: for Women's Hell All, which was like highly traumatic and
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: like a freaking Wrestling Rank, like it was literally hyperventilated
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: in between commercial breaks and just an absolute disaster. So
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: already going out there, I was such a disaster and
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: had so much anxiety and was just literally just blacking out.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: And yeah, afterwards, I literally just went into like total shock.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: And I'm a big talker, so I'm always talking through
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: things through and like afterwards, I was in my trailer
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: and like your podcast is called let's talk about it
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: exactly exactly, and even afterwards, like the producers that I'm
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: close with were decided didn't talk, and like I literally
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: was just silent for like thirty minutes, and I just
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: said like tears like streaming down my face, like I
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: couldn't even make words. And that's like that's how I know.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that was just shock, Like I had
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: never experienced anything like that before, and it's like, what
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: are you gonna do? It's like, yeah, I do have
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: love for him, and you know, want to date him,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Like we were not monogamously together when that happened. Um,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: so I was like I do have love for him
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: and I want to date him, but like now now, what,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: like how do I I have no idea? You're not
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: monogamously together. And was he aware of this? Was? Yes,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: and he proposed to somebody who didn't even want to
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: commit to him, like fullheartedly. Yes. Were you not monogamous?
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Because I know you talked about this on your podcast
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: a lot. You talked about open relationships and threesomes even,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: and we talked about all the things. I know. I
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: say threesomes like that just because we don't normally don't talk.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: It's usually pretty PG over here. UM. But so you're
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: the kind of person that you can have multiple relationships
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: at one time. What were you open with Derek because
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: you didn't like him enough or just because you like
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: that style relationship? No, So I wouldn't even say we
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: were in an open relationship. We were just single and
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: like dating. UM. And I don't think like when people
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: are in open relationships or not monogamous relationships, it's not
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: even necessarily about not liking someone enough. It's just other
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: things are are different. Um. Having you a connection with
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: one person doesn't lessen your connection for another. UM. But yeah,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I think we basically after Paradise, he came to Seattle. Um.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: He was in Seattle for like three weeks, and we
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: were having a great time, and you know, he had
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: like pushed back his flight like to stay longer, and
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: it was sweet and I was like so happy, but
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: by the time he left the trip, I was like,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not ready to be like I still
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: need more time. And you know, when you get off
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: the show, like there's just so much happening, and you know,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I had gotten off of my season of Bachelor and
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: then gone on to Paradise and was like, yeah, like
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I just want to take this slow, Like I just
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: want to see what life looks like like you live
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: in Iowa, I live in Seattle, Like let's just give
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: this some time, and you know, like give ourselves a
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: little bit of a breather here. And um, I think
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: he was really hurt by that, and and like we
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: wanted to be boyfriend and girlfriend, and I basically left
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: it as like you know, yeah, I'll communicate with you
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: if I'm with anyone, and like you communicate with me
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: if you're with anyone, and we'll continue to work on
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: this because I would like to work towards that. Um.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: And then you know, we both kind of did our
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: own things and saw each other when we could, and
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: then there was definitely things that he wasn't fully honest
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: with me about that also contributed to things later. Um,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: and yeah, it wasn't. I wouldn't say we weren't any
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: kind of open relationship. It was just us dating and
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: figuring it out. And yeah, then then it was time
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: for the reunion show. Would you say that his feeling
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: spiked during the airing of the show, or that there's
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: like a higher round your relationship, Well, yeah, yeah, I
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of there's a lot of hives
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: around all of it, right, Um, and yeah, I think
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: there was also a part of you know, my storyline
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: the first time around on Bachelor was really difficult and
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: didn't necessarily show the best parts of me. And I
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: think he really enjoyed the fact that people were getting
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: to see a different side of me. And I think
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: he you know, I think it also made him feel
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: good to know that like he was a part of
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: that and that he was helping that he was helping
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: me in that way, I guess. Um, so yeah, I
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: think that, you know, watching ourselves on the show also
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: brought us together. And you know, it's I always say,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: like my favorite Derek that I knew was like Derek
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: in Iowa like when I'm there, like with his family,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Like that was the absolute best possible times we could
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: have had where we were super super close. And it
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: doesn't make me sad because I think in in a
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: different place, in a different time, if we had met,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: you know, totally unrelated to the show, things might have
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: been different. Um, but yeah, they're just when I look
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: at like the actual timeline of our relationship, so much
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: stuff happened, and it's like, yeah, no, wonder it was
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: difficult for us. There were there was a lot contributing.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: So close up the picture for us here because I
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: want to get to know you too, Taylor, outside of
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: this relationship, because I think there's a little bit more
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: there what happened after engagement and so clear clear up
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: to finish the story here, you get engaged, you're obviously
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: together for a while, it ends, um, and then let's
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: talk about what you're doing the day, because I know
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: you get some cool stuff going on. Yeah, yeah, got engaged. Um.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Three days after that, my stepdad, uh collapsed running a
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: race and had went into cardiac arrest and most people
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: like don't come back from that, and he did. Um
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: lost his medical license for his medical for being a pilot.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Um he was an Air Force I don't know. He
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: was actually fine for Paul Allen at that time. Um.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: But yeah, So basically had a lot of family stuff
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: happened where then I stayed in Seattle and the staying
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: home and Derek had moved to New York for a
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: job and then basically wanted me to move to New
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: York and I was like, I have to stay over
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: for family. And then my cat was also like dying.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I'm a crazy cat lady, like loud and proud, um,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: and so I was like I can't, like I gotta,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: you know, stay here from my cat. And uh, yeah,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: we were just not on the same page with what
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: we wanted it. And yeah, I have two blaring questions
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: before we do move on from Derek, how did you
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: get to crying and be so being so hysterical on
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: that reunion show to actually putting the ring on your finger? Um?
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Did you really wear the ring when I was in public?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: When I had to? Yeah? Um, and yeah, I mean
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I've this was the reunion was in August. And then
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: like I told him after, I was like, yeah, like
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I will be your girlfriend, you know, like I will
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: commit to you and will be your girlfriend. Um. And
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: then it was in October I was in Iowa and
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: that was when I really actually fell in love with him.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: And it was unfortunate that then like that same week
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: that I was like I'm fully in love with you
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: and like I'm in this and I'm like I want
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: us to do this. Then I found out a lot
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: of other things that we're really heartbreaking and difficult. And
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: then that was that was tough. Almost broke up then,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: but stayed together and try to work on things and
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: then and didnt engine would you say that you were
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: ever in a monogamous relationship with there? Yeah? Okay, so
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: was it that October time? Yeah? No, like from the
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: engagement they're on out, we were, we were, we were
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: monogously together. Yeah, Taylor, you are. I think you still do.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you what your career is right now,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: but you're obviously an expert and kind of how events
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: in life affect you mentally. UM. So you go through
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: this whole thing, and I want to try to make
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: this so relatable to anybody listening out there. I just
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: actually got back from watch from d C. This is funny.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I want to tell you this, Taylor. Um, as at
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Capital One Headquarters talking about a company that I'm a
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: part of called Generous, and I'm standing in line and
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh so, so a couple of women came
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: up and they're like, oh, we loved Almost Famous podcast.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: We're huge fans of Salem. Who you having on this week?
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: And I said your name, like, we love Taylor. So
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I know they're listening to this right now, Um, which
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: is always fun to know and think about as somebody
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: across the country right now is listening to it. I
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: want to let you know you have fans in washingt
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: d C. Saltimore for like eight years, so yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: close to it. So here's the thing, Um, let's make
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: this relatable for those type of people that are listening
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: out there. Somebody gets into relationship, they don't do with it.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: It's not going to according to plan. The dever feels right.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Somebody thought it was right for a long time. You
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: keep trying to convince yourself keeps disappointing you. Um, you
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: get out of it and you sit there and you
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: try to recover and heal and process everything that's happened
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: in the last seven months of your life. Eight months.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know how long it was for you, Um,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: how do you do that? And where does it spit
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: you out? Like at the end of it, when the
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: light starts to shine again. What have you learned from
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: this whole thing, the show, the relationship, the events that
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: have happened through it, to where you are an out
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: m M. That's such a good question. That's such a
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: big one. Um, there's a lot in that. I think
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: for me it was I was definitely in a in
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: a phase of like getting to know me a little
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: bit more, um, figuring out like what I really wanted
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: out of a relationship, what I wanted my life to
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: look like. Because when you come off the show, I
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: feel like you don't really have like a your life
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: is just all over the place, Like there's not necessarily
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: um grounding there for you to really like be in
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: touch with yourself because there's just so many things happening. Um.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: And for me, it was super important to like be
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: grounded being Seattle'll, be with my family, be with my friends,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: get back to like figuring out my career what I
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: wanted that to look like. If you've just gotten out
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: of grad school, right, Yeah, I had graduated May and
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: then was on the show filming in September. Yeah, and
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: for me it was like, how do I get back
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: to you know, who Taylor is? Like, like that was
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: really important, um, And like huge takeaways from the show
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: and that whole experience is like you can't please everyone
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, like you have
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: to remain authentic to yourself and to your story and um,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: just living your life in an alignment with what you want. Um.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I think in a lot of ways when I reflect on,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: you know, my time and my experience on the show
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: is that I made myself a little small and tried
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: to please other people and tried to make sure I
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: was doing things the right way. Um. And then when
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: you look back on that, that's not like you're like,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: who is that? You know? Like that doesn't feel super authentic.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, I don't know if the answers your question,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: but those I have a lot of reflections post show.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Has it affected you still to this day? I mean
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: it's been a few years now, Yeah, I mean both
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: times on the show, and again it's it's always nice
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: like to in a way get together with other people
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: from the show because you can all kind of relate
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: to this experience, and even this weekend with some other
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Bachelorum after jing A Ball, you know, just having really honest, authentic,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: real conversations, really vulnerable conversations about how this show has
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: impacted each of us and it honestly is trauma. Like
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: for some people, Yes, it's a great experience, and I'm
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: sure for both of you you also have like beautiful
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: things to take away from the show. But um, in general,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: it the first time was traumatic and one way, and
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: the second time was traumatic in other ways. And you know,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: my own personal therapy for many several years post show,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: and while the show was airing for like several days
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: a week, sometimes, um, it literally was trauma. So it
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: absolutely does stick with me, and you know, in some
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: ways in a really positive way, right because now I
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: feel like I sometimes just don't really give about anything,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: and so I just, um will just be myself, regardless
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: of if that fits in the picture of what people
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: think of therapists should look like, or if it's what
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: they think Taylor from the show should look like, or
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: someone who has emotional intelligence should look like. It's like,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: I'm just being me, like, and that's just what I'm
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: going to continue to do. That was my next question.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: So you got what was your degree in at Johns Hopkins. Yeah,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: so the bachelor's in psychology within minor and human services,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: and then I have a master's in clinical mental health counseling.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: So you were known on the show as the emotional
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: intelligence girl. It was a term that you threw around
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: a lot. How did your education play a role in
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: how you handled the Bachelor experience? Yeah, well, I think
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: going on, everyone was like from producers to friends to
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: like strangers, everyone was just like, oh, well, like you're
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: gonna kill it, Like you're just you're so prepared, Like
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: if anyone's prepared for a show like this, it's you,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: And like, news flash, you're never prepared. Um uh. And
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: I think for me it was a huge slap in
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: the face of reality, honestly, because I was in such
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: a bubble in my life with my friends and my
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: community of people where phrases like emotional intelligence were just
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: a part of our daily language, like that was just
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: a part of it. And so I think it actually
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: in some ways put me out a disadvantage because honestly,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: it is also a reality TV show and people want entertainment, right,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: And for me, I was very much in a like
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I was taking myself a little seriously. People sounded a
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: little bit elitist. Yeah, and and to me, like that
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: was just yeah, when you look at it in comparison,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: it's going to look like that, and um yeah, to me,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: it was just a part of my daily language. So
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: it definitely was a bit of like a wake up
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: call of like, um, I guess just knowing that I'm
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: in a little bit of of a bubble around people
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: who are really interested in, um, you know, personal development
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: and challenging themselves in those ways, and um yeah. Then
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like, I'm on a reality TV
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: show I forgot Did you feel about Did you feel
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: like everything that you knew from school made you more
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: overly analytical of everything that was going on, like production
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: and like how they were trying to poss all the moves,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: the producing moves. Yes, definitely, definitely. And I also felt
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: like going on the show, I was just so curious
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: to like observe all the dynamics. But I definitely took
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: way more of a I took more like the role
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: of an observer than I actually allowed myself to be
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: present in the experience, which is something I would definitely
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: change if that was ever possible. Um, And I think
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: that's something I've been more intentional and aware of going
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: into any experiences today of just like you don't necessarily
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: have to like be the observer, be analytical in this,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: or try to be as objective as possible, like just
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: go be subjective, go be yourself like experience this because
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I definitely was very in my head and was very
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: much like trying to look out for people and trying to,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: you know, take in all the different dynamics because there's
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: a lot, a lot that goes on on the show.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Would you recommend doing it? If somebody asked you today,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: a close friend and they said, hey, we have this opportunity,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: would you say do it? I would ask them why
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: they wanted to do it. I would say why, why
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: did you want to do it? I wanted to do
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: it because I thought what better way to challenge myself
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: with being vulnerable than to go on reality on reality
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: TV and data Total Stranger. I was a lot of
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: the work I was doing with my clients at the
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: time was around vulnerability. And I had had someone tell
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: me that I'm really great at getting to other people,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: but then I'm actually really not vulnerable, and I have
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of walls up, and so I was already
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: challenging myself and my dating and trying to be like,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: how can I let people in? How do I let
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: those walls down? And I was also trying to go
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: with the flow a little bit more because my life
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: had been so planned out, like I did my bachelor's
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: in three years, went straight to my master's and I
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to be fully licensed by the
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: time on and I'll work the rest of my life
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: as a psychotherapist. So I was like, how do I
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: like get outside my comfort zone and challenge myself with
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: letting go of control and going with the flow and
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: also being more vulnerable and letting my walls down. And
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: the show literally encapsulated all of that, and it was like,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: this is an opportunity before I just go head first
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: into my career. Do I take it or do I
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: walk away? And then always wonder what if? That's the
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: most interesting answer I've ever gotten to that question. Yeah,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: she's an interesting person. This has been an interesting interview.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. I want to hear though, Um,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: what do you up to? Now? I know you have
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: a good podcast, it's booming. Uh, you're sharing your insights
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: and your love for others on this on the podcast
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: tell our listeners about it. Yeah. So the podcast is
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: called Let's Talk About It with Taylor Nolan, and it
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: focuses on mental and sexual health. So right now, I
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: practiced as a psychotherapist in Seattle, and then I'm also
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: going through training right now to be certified as a
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: sex therapist. So I definitely share my own personal experiences.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: I have other experts on who share not only their
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: professional knowledge, but also their own personal experiences as well. Uh.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of stigma and shame around mental health,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: but I'm also learning that there's even more stigma around
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: sexual health and sexuality, especially as a as a young
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: woman of color. I receive a lot of shame around that. Um,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: around expressing and exploring my sexuality. So that's something that
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like I try to tackle on a daily
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: basis on not only Instagram but also with the podcast.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: UM So that's kind of what I'm up to these
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: days and just dating and you know, exploring all the
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: all the fun things. You brought a boy to jingle Ball?
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Is that a boyfriend or is that someone you're seeing
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: just a person I'm seeing. Yeah, it's very Um he's
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: in Toronto. I've really suck at finding people in Seattle
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: to date. Um, so you know he's in Canada. Um,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I have someone in London. I talked to you occasionally. Um,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: there is one person I see in Seattle. Sometimes there's
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: someone in l a I talked to. Uh. So yeah,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: like I'm just I'm dating and figuring out where it goes.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: And yeah, the Toronto guy that came to jingle Balls,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: he's really great and I'm liking him, so we'll see
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: where that goes. You made a comment earlier about different
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: people fulfilling different emotional needs, and that's that's super take,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: but it makes me wonder, do you think that you'll
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: ever be in a relationship? Do you want to be
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: in an monogamous relationship? Do you want to find somebody
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: who fulfills all the emotional needs so which I don't
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: know if that's possible, But yeah, so I was canna
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: say there's I definitely feel there are parts of me
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: that desire monogamy, and there are times I really enjoy monogamy. Um,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I don't believe that someone will ever be able to
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: fully fulfill all of my emotional needs all of the time.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody can find that. Yeah, and
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I think that that's unfortunately one of the concepts we
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: have around monogamy that can lead to some really unhealthy relationships,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: um and and toxic behaviors. But yeah, there's definitely like
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: periods of my life and in times with people that
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: monogamy is what I desire and I want to be
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: fully like wrapped up in that one person, and I
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily have a desire for other people, but um,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think like long term that that would be
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: something for me at least, you know. Ever since my
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: first boyfriend, I've always said, you know, the person I
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: marry is not gonna be the one and only person
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I have sex with for the rest of my life.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: That that just seems so unrealistic to me, and that
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: there were like so like it's so beautiful when you
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: do have a connection with someone, right, Like how often
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: is it that you like someone that they like you back,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: and like timing is right and you have the opportunity
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: to actually explore connection, Like I find that that's fairly
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: rare that that actually happens, and when it does. How
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: beautiful is that to be able to have the the
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: openness to actually explore. Um So, marriage doesn't mean not
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: necessarily I think it. It certainly involves periods of monogamy,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: you know, Like I don't think it's when I do
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: talk about non monogamy. I think people think, you know,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: every weekend you and your partner are out trying to
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: find someone else, and like, that's not what it looks
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: like at all. Um there's definitely periods where there would
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: be uh, you know, a sense of being closed off
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: to other people are not pursuing that. Um and there's
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: times that I super enjoy that as well. Um So, yeah,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: it's not I think I could definitely be in a
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: monogamy miss relationship again, but it would probably be a
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: little bit more monogamish. Interesting expression. Never heard that term.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: It's kind of cute. Yeah, Dan Dan Savage started it.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: We've got a few emails you're gonna get too before
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: we do. I uh, I want to ask you one
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: final question to sum all this up. What are from
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: doing the podcast? From from opening up about some of
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: the things have been laid on your heart, the lessons
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: you've learned. What are some things you have learned experienced
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: in the last few months from listeners and emailers before
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: we get into our own emails that you've taken with you.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Something I've learned from my listeners, sure, Um, I think
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I've learned to It might sound a little weird, but
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: just to be more outspoken and standing in your truth. Um.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I think the more that I talk about taboo and
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: very stigmatized topics, the more I feel like it it
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: encourages an and fuels other people to stand in their
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: truths with that and to feel less alone. And I
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: have felt way less alone, and the things I struggle
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: with that I have had to work through some shame
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: around when I share them, and I'm also met with
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: the same thing from other people. So I think just
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: having that courage to stand in your truth and and
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: be vulnerable in that has been something I've learned a
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: lot to do from from listeners, and I am very
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: much inspired by reading their stories and reading their their
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: messages to me about them doing the same. Where can
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: people find your podcast? Um on Apple, podcast, on Spotify,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: any place where you listen to podcasts if you're just searching.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about it with Taylor Nolan it'll show up.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: It's weekly, yep, every week. Awesome. All right, well we're
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: definitely going to check that out. You have been so
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: articulate in such a pleasure to listen to think you'd
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: talk to thanks. Yes, so I want to listen to
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: you more over there? All right? You ready to get
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: to this email, which is very on brand for this
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: season of the batch er. It is flights for the Bachelor?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Is this from Leah? She asks, I'm dying to know
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: how are flights booked so quickly after someone decides to
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: leave or is kicked off the show early? Then you
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: have an answer for this? Uh there, I mean there's
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: a whole travel department sometimes. I mean, I know there's
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: been scenarios. I don't know if you guys heard about
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: this where the person can't leave like right away, like
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: they have to stay the night or wait till the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: evening flight out. It's all an illusion that we leave
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: right away. No, I mean people do leave, like they
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: get in a car, they drive to a hotel away
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: from everybody, and they either stay in the night a
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: hotel or they jump on a flight the next morning.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: But I don't think it's that. I mean it's impressive.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: I think it's impressive when you're like in Bali and
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden there's somebody can get like a
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: flight out of there. I mean, that can't cost that
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: has to cost the show so much money. I can't
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: even imagine what their travel expenses are. No wonder we don't. Yeah,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: so there's a whole travel team. Somebody gets kicked off.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they radio down little Sally Sue is being
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: sent home. Make sure you get her a flight back
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: to San Francisco tomorrow. And somebody's on it. Yep, I
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: have one that didn't make the pages in front of you,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: if you don't mind, just came in late and she
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: does not want her name said, so I'll be careful here.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: But she says, if you know your partner is getting
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: you a ring for Christmas, like the ring, what kind
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: of gift can you possibly get him? I know that
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: saying yes as a gift, but any ideas of what
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: I can give him that's equally meaningful? Oh my goodness,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I love that question. It is not Jessica. Okay, good
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: uh like wait for awkward pause, Okay, so, um, I
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: don't know. I would say, like, it really doesn't have
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: a price tag on it. It can't have a price
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: tag on it because like, you're not going to get
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: him whatever the cost of the actual ring is. So
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: whether it's a token or a momento that sort of
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: stands for the same thing, which is, you know, togetherness forever,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to just find what in your
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: relationship symbolizes that then any other options. I got an
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: easier idea, Yes, well that's what she said, she said,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: oldler than saying yes, what's a gift? Yeah, And I
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: think too she's also wanting to choose him as well,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: and I think sometimes that's what's missed in like traditional
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: proposals of that, like the reciprocation, right, And that's beautiful
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: that this listener wants to give back to her partner
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: like that. And I love what you said to about
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: finding something in your relationship that um it symbolizes you know,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: your your connection and giving that as a gift. But
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: also I mean, why can't you also get a ring
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: as well? And you know, I'm kind of opposed to
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: him the man engagement ring. My best friend actually just
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: proposed to her boyfriend of four years this past weekend,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: which is so funny. But it was kind of a
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: joke that they always had. She drunkenly one night said
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: you know what, Rob, I'm going to propose to you
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: one day, and then she tried to back out of
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: it for a couple of years. She's like, you know that,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't really mean it. I want you to propose
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: to me. He's like, nope, you said it, like I'm
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: sticking to it. So it wasn't like a surprise that
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: she was the one that got down one ney, but
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: she finally was the one that decided she didn't get
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: down on one knee. And and she actually she has
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: a ring for him, but she has a ring for
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: her too. At the proposal moment, she had a ring
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: for herself, which was a fair family heirloom. She didn't
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: buy it for herself, and and he had actually also
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: asked her dad for permission ahead of time, so there
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: was a bit of tradition to it. That is sweet.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: I any kind of like personal framed something or other
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: collage photos, anything meaningful like that. I think it's a
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: great idea. Hey, I just want to remind everybody to
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: come and see you guys life, because you know, you
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: too are modest. You don't want to sing your own praises,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: but I am so lucky I get to sit here
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: and watch Ben and actually do this lab on a
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: weekly basis. You need to get in on this. It's
• 1:03:55
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