Latest / THE DAILY BRIEF / Maddow An anti-Trump movement forms, united by morality
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Does protest matter? Does small-scale local protest matter? Does saying
- 0:08Speaker 1: no make a difference? I mean, sometimes, just practically speaking,
- 0:13Speaker 1: it seems fundamentally irrational, right? A waste of time at best.
- 0:18Speaker 1: At worst, it can be a huge risk. In exchange
- 0:21Speaker 1: for what, right? For some faraway prospect, some faraway change
- 0:26Speaker 1: of some faraway institution or problem that you have nothing
- 0:30Speaker 1: to do with and that rationally you can't possibly influence
- 0:34Speaker 1: from your neighborhood, from your little corner of your own
- 0:37Speaker 1: private life.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Or....
- 0:42Speaker 1: There's the real-world history of human conscience and nonviolent principled
- 0:48Speaker 1: protest that calls on people to see what is morally
- 0:52Speaker 1: right and what is morally wrong, right? What is unconscionable
- 0:56Speaker 1: in their own time? Whether or not there's some immediately
- 0:59Speaker 1: apparent practical connection between the specific act of protest and
- 1:04Speaker 1: what you're protesting against. It is often an act of
- 1:08Speaker 1: faith that what you're standing up against will be at
- 1:12Speaker 1: all affected by the act of your standing up against it.
- 1:17Speaker 1: And that is why principled protest, I think, so often,
- 1:20Speaker 1: not always, but so often, comes with some relationship to
- 1:24Speaker 1: a faith tradition. And again, not always, right? Tell the
- 1:27Speaker 1: Dublin Catholic churches that were railing against these young shop
- 1:30Speaker 1: workers picketing their store. But also... Tell those Dublin nuns
- 1:36Speaker 1: who saw through what the Catholic Church was telling them
- 1:38Speaker 1: to do who joined them. And also look here, too,
- 1:43Speaker 1: in our own country, in our own time. Today is
- 1:47Speaker 1: day seven of an eight-day, 90-plus-mile march in California by clergy,
- 1:53Speaker 1: by faith leaders, and regular people from the ICE facilities
- 1:58Speaker 1: that Trump is operating, his three immigrant prisons out in
- 2:00Speaker 1: the desert in Adelanto, California. People this past week have
- 2:05Speaker 1: marched— for the last seven days, people have marched all the
- 2:07Speaker 1: way from those facilities way out in the desert, nearly
- 2:11Speaker 1: 100 miles to downtown Los Angeles. They're calling it a pilgrimage,
- 2:16Speaker 1: a pilgrimage honoring the four people who have died at
- 2:20Speaker 1: Adelanto under Trump, a pilgrimage to get those facilities closed.
- 2:28Speaker 2: As far as why 96 miles, that's the distance from
- 2:32Speaker 2: Adelanto to the detention center in downtown L.A. And the
- 2:37Speaker 2: distance is purposeful. Adelanto is placed... so far outside of
- 2:44Speaker 2: Los Angeles to make it hard to get to, to
- 2:46Speaker 2: make it so that people are detained out of sight
- 2:50Speaker 2: and out of mind. And so we're trying to highlight
- 2:54Speaker 2: that distance. We're trying to draw attention to the fact
- 2:56Speaker 2: that people are still here. We still see them. They're
- 3:01Speaker 2: isolated from their families, but they're not isolated from the
- 3:04Speaker 2: human community.
- 3:07Speaker 1: That 96-mile pilgrimage out of the desert finishes tomorrow in
- 3:12Speaker 1: downtown L.A. Then the day after tomorrow, another one starts.
- 3:17Speaker 1: This one starts in Seattle on Wednesday. Another pilgrimage, this
- 3:22Speaker 1: one's due to be four days and 48 miles. led
- 3:25Speaker 1: by Japanese Americans who survived mass internment, mass incarceration of
- 3:29Speaker 1: Japanese Americans during World War II and also their descendants.
- 3:33Speaker 1: They're going to start at the King County International Airport,
- 3:36Speaker 1: where they want Trump's deportation flights to stop. They'll be
- 3:40Speaker 1: at the Tukwila Ice Facility, where they want to close
- 3:42Speaker 1: down the hold rooms for immigrant kids there. They'll go
- 3:46Speaker 1: to the Puyallup Assembly Center, where Japanese-American families were sent
- 3:51Speaker 1: on their way to the prison camps back in World
- 3:53Speaker 1: War II. They'll end up at the Northwest Ice Processing
- 3:56Speaker 1: Facility in Tacoma, Washington, to support the immigrants held there
- 4:00Speaker 1: and to call for shutting that place down. That pilgrimage,
- 4:04Speaker 1: that four-day, 50-mile pilgrimage, starts this week. We're also looking
- 4:09Speaker 1: tomorrow to Pima County, Arizona, where a local group called PRICE,
- 4:13Speaker 1: which stands for Pima Resists Ice, Price is going to
- 4:17Speaker 1: be at the Marana Town Hall in Marana, Arizona, just
- 4:20Speaker 1: outside Tucson tomorrow, because they want their town council to
- 4:24Speaker 1: block the Trump administration's plans to open another large immigrant
- 4:28Speaker 1: prison in Marana, Arizona. On Saturday this weekend, it was
- 4:33Speaker 1: a really big protest on the east side of San
- 4:36Speaker 1: Antonio in Texas. Democrats, including Congressman Joaquin Castro and local
- 4:41Speaker 1: council members and a local Catholic priest who is a
- 4:44Speaker 1: former San Antonio police officer himself, all led a big
- 4:49Speaker 1: group of San Antonio residents this weekend marching, trying to
- 4:52Speaker 1: stop Trump from opening up a huge new immigrant prison
- 4:56Speaker 1: in San Antonio. This today was Vermont, where local residents
- 5:01Speaker 1: and clergy held a political funeral for people killed in
- 5:05Speaker 1: Trump's ICE prisons. Williston, Vermont, hosts an intelligence center for ICE.
- 5:12Speaker 1: As local activists see it, Williston, Vermont, is basically ICE's
- 5:15Speaker 1: national surveillance headquarters. They've been telling people, quote, deportations across
- 5:20Speaker 1: the country all start in Williston, Vermont. And they've been
- 5:24Speaker 1: mobilizing people across Vermont and across New England to try
- 5:28Speaker 1: to shut that center down. All this week, people in
- 5:31Speaker 1: Vermont are targeting that facility with nonviolent protests, led in
- 5:35Speaker 1: large part by faith groups, trying to get that ICE
- 5:37Speaker 1: intelligence facility, that ICE surveillance headquarters in Vermont, shut down.
- 5:42Speaker 1: They want it out of their state. All month long,
- 5:46Speaker 1: we've been watching protesters in— for weeks now, we've been watching
- 5:50Speaker 1: protesters in Alexandria, Louisiana. Alexandria, Louisiana is about as far
- 5:55Speaker 1: as you can get on the ideological number line from Vermont, right?
- 5:59Speaker 1: But there, too, you've got locals from all over Louisiana,
- 6:03Speaker 1: including clergy of all stripes, just hammering local authorities in
- 6:08Speaker 1: central Louisiana, in Alexandria, Louisiana, saying they do not want
- 6:13Speaker 1: a second Trump ICE prison for kids and families to
- 6:17Speaker 1: open up in their town. There's one already in Dilley, Texas,
- 6:21Speaker 1: which you know about. That has been a moral and
- 6:23Speaker 1: practical catastrophe. Now Trump is trying to open up a
- 6:26Speaker 1: second prison for kids in Alexandria, Louisiana. Locals have mounted
- 6:32Speaker 1: protests and marches and prayer vigils. They've been hounding their
- 6:36Speaker 1: local officials to try to stop this thing from opening.
- 6:39Speaker 1: One local organizer telling NOLA.com this weekend, quote, we're not
- 6:42Speaker 1: going to put our hands up and say, oh, well,
- 6:44Speaker 1: we tried. When it opens, it'll be even more important
- 6:47Speaker 1: to put pressure on it to get it closed. At
- 6:49Speaker 1: that point, people are being harmed. We are just going
- 6:52Speaker 1: to keep making a stink of it. We'll never go
- 6:55Speaker 1: away until it's closed. And that is central Louisiana. You
- 7:02Speaker 1: think those folks have a shot at winning this? Do
- 7:05Speaker 1: you think they're morally right in what they are asking for?
- 7:13Speaker 1: Politics don't always unfold in a linear way or even
- 7:16Speaker 1: in a predictable or seemingly rational way. Moral catastrophes make
- 7:22Speaker 1: for surprising alliances. and for weirdly shaped big tent politics
- 7:28Speaker 1: where surprising people end up aligning with each other on
- 7:31Speaker 1: moral grounds. Tomorrow, the Interfaith Alliance is launching a national
- 7:37Speaker 1: 15-state bus tour called The Vote is Sacred to try
- 7:43Speaker 1: to stop any effort to mess with the elections and
- 7:46Speaker 1: to mess with people's voting rights. Today, the top elections official,
- 7:51Speaker 1: a Republican in red state Utah, is also proclaiming in
- 7:56Speaker 1: the same language that the voting rights of people in
- 7:58Speaker 1: her state are, in her words, sacred. She is speaking
- 8:03Speaker 1: out as the state's Republican lieutenant governor, as the top
- 8:05Speaker 1: elections official in the red state of Utah, speaking out
- 8:09Speaker 1: against Trump administration efforts to mess with the Utah vote,
- 8:13Speaker 1: to mess with elections in Utah. She has reportedly been
- 8:16Speaker 1: told for her troubles that she is under investigation by
- 8:19Speaker 1: Trump's Justice Department for refusing to hand over sensitive information
- 8:23Speaker 1: about Utah voters to the feds. She says Utah's voting
- 8:27Speaker 1: rights are sacred. She is a Republican in that Republican-dominated state. Tonight,
- 8:33Speaker 1: we're going to hear from a Fulton County, Georgia official
- 8:36Speaker 1: who is screaming bloody murder, who's really sounding the alarm
- 8:39Speaker 1: about a MAGA election denier official in Georgia state government
- 8:44Speaker 1: who is now explicitly inviting Trump's federal agents to come
- 8:48Speaker 1: in and mess with Georgia's elections. She is a Democrat.
- 8:53Speaker 1: We're going to hear from her tonight. But one of
- 8:55Speaker 1: the people screaming alongside her is the Republican chair of
- 8:59Speaker 1: Georgia's elections board. And you see these kinds of strange
- 9:05Speaker 1: bedfellows dynamics over and over again. And I really think
- 9:08Speaker 1: it's because people have big, unpredictable hearts. I think moral
- 9:12Speaker 1: issues make for unpredictable politics and surprising turns. As the
- 9:18Speaker 1: White House considers its options for messing with these elections,
- 9:22Speaker 1: so Republicans can't be turfed out of power, and maybe
- 9:24Speaker 1: Trump can't either. One recent poll asked Americans to choose
- 9:29Speaker 1: a word to describe this president. And the one word
- 9:33Speaker 1: out of the long list that most people picked was
- 9:36Speaker 1: the word corrupt. Corrupt was first, followed in second place
- 9:41Speaker 1: by dangerous, followed by out of touch, followed by cruel. Corrupt, dangerous,
- 9:49Speaker 1: out of touch, cruel. You know, a gazillion people are
- 9:55Speaker 1: going to protest against Trump in one way or another
- 9:57Speaker 1: on October 17th, on the next No Kings Day, Saturdays.
- 10:00Speaker 1: October 17th. But open your eyes to this stuff, because
- 10:05Speaker 1: today and every day until then, you know, there are
- 10:09Speaker 1: our generation shop girls. are Mary Mannings, our regular folks
- 10:15Speaker 1: in their own towns, far away from the corruption and
- 10:19Speaker 1: the cruelty that they are trying to stop. And yes,
- 10:22Speaker 1: they get mocked for being impractical, for shouting into the void,
- 10:26Speaker 1: for trying to change something way bigger than them, something
- 10:29Speaker 1: far away from them, something they can't control. And that
- 10:33Speaker 1: critique is fair, and it is rational, and it is true.
- 10:37Speaker 1: It's true until it's not. until making a moral case
- 10:43Speaker 1: for what's right saves not only your own soul, but
- 10:47Speaker 1: maybe your country's too. Hey, it's Rachel. I am so
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