Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / The NT’s new Chief Psychiatrist Dr David Mitchell says he will oversee the mental health of Territorians and brings military experience to the role
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Know that the Northern Territory has a new Chief Psychiatrist
- 0:03Speaker 1: whose key focus will be on mental health of territorians,
- 0:07Speaker 1: and the appointment of doctor David Mitchell will bring the
- 0:10Speaker 1: Northern Territory in line with other states and territories which
- 0:13Speaker 1: have had someone in this role for quite some time.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Doctor Mitchell joins me on the show right now. Good
- 0:19Speaker 1: morning to you.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Good morning, pleasure to be here, Thank you.
- 0:24Speaker 1: And I apologize that we are running so late. Doctor.
- 0:27Speaker 1: What exactly does the role of chief psychiatrist involve?
- 0:33Speaker 2: It's a good question.
- 0:34Speaker 3: I think you've summarized it really well in introduction. Every
- 0:38Speaker 3: state and territory has a chief psochiatrist, and having a
- 0:41Speaker 3: chief psychiatrist gives us that strategic leadership in that space,
- 0:46Speaker 3: and it gives us a physition at the table. So
- 0:49Speaker 3: the chief psychiatrist overseas reform within the Northern Territory, within
- 0:54Speaker 3: the development and enhancement of services, the better quality, and
- 0:58Speaker 3: governments overseeing the delivery of mental health. And to put
- 1:03Speaker 3: it in a sort of a physical perspectives, the chiefs
- 1:05Speaker 3: chiatrists meet regularly at a round table and discuss, you know,
- 1:09Speaker 3: what's happening around the country. And how we can deliver
- 1:12Speaker 3: mental health better. So I'm really excited to be able
- 1:15Speaker 3: to be at the table and to represent the Northern
- 1:17Speaker 3: Territory and to look after the health of all Northern
- 1:20Speaker 3: Territory and.
- 1:21Speaker 1: Doctor Mitchell, it's sort of you know, it almost sounds
- 1:24Speaker 1: like I'm thinking of that role, your role in the
- 1:27Speaker 1: same context, almost as the Chief Health officer. You know, what,
- 1:31Speaker 1: what sort of qualifications or what background do you need
- 1:35Speaker 1: to be able to take on such such a role,
- 1:38Speaker 1: such a big role. By the sounds of it, look.
- 1:42Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's that's very analogous to the
- 1:44Speaker 3: Chief Health Officer, probably more similar to the Chief Medical Officer.
- 1:48Speaker 3: We have another position within the department. But you know
- 1:52Speaker 3: that that's very true. I may have got a little
- 1:54Speaker 3: bit of a head start because my wife the Deputy
- 1:58Speaker 3: Chief Health Officer for some time in the Northern Territory
- 2:01Speaker 3: during the COVID pandemic. So the chief officer to clarify
- 2:06Speaker 3: as normally a public health physician and they overlook the
- 2:09Speaker 3: statutory authority of public health laws within the territory. The
- 2:15Speaker 3: Chief helf Officer will be a little bit like that
- 2:19Speaker 3: because we're going to move some of the statutory authority
- 2:22Speaker 3: over to the chief psychiatrists, so I will have certain
- 2:26Speaker 3: powers that now sit with the Chief Health Officer, will
- 2:28Speaker 3: sit with the chief psychiatrist.
- 2:30Speaker 2: Right, But you're right.
- 2:30Speaker 3: I think that's a really good way of thinking about it.
- 2:33Speaker 3: It's kind of like a chief health officer that looks
- 2:36Speaker 3: after the mental health needs. So it's very very public
- 2:39Speaker 3: health focus, just like.
- 2:41Speaker 2: The Chief off officer.
- 2:42Speaker 3: So in terms of my qualifications, obviously, I'm a psychiatrist,
- 2:46Speaker 3: a fellow of the role Australian New Zealand College of
- 2:48Speaker 3: Psychiatrists and also trained as a GP. I trained in
- 2:51Speaker 3: Darwin twenty years ago. I'm a Fellow of the Australian
- 2:54Speaker 3: College of Medical Administrators.
- 2:56Speaker 2: I've got a military background which helps me.
- 2:58Speaker 3: Make chaos or border out of chaos, which I think
- 3:01Speaker 3: is the military specialty.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Yep.
- 3:04Speaker 3: I've got a few qualifications, but I think the primary
- 3:06Speaker 3: qualification for the chief psychiatrist is you have to be
- 3:08Speaker 3: a psychiatrist and you probably have to be passionate and
- 3:12Speaker 3: want to take on that responsibility. Everything else is probably
- 3:15Speaker 3: in acoutremont.
- 3:16Speaker 1: And how I think that the fact that you've been
- 3:18Speaker 1: part of the military as well is actually a really
- 3:20Speaker 1: interesting aspect of that, and really interesting thing for us
- 3:25Speaker 1: here in the Northern Territory, given your role now that
- 3:28Speaker 1: you've taken on, but also given the fact that we
- 3:30Speaker 1: are a real military town.
- 3:34Speaker 2: I think it is.
- 3:37Speaker 3: There are GPS in Darwin, doctor Bernie Wesley that I
- 3:42Speaker 3: trained with and was a medical officer with up in
- 3:44Speaker 3: Darwin many years ago. So I'm very interested in the
- 3:48Speaker 3: health of veterans, surbing members, and you know, I think
- 3:51Speaker 3: it's a really important space.
- 3:52Speaker 2: We obviously have.
- 3:53Speaker 3: The Royal Commission into Veterans and Members Suicide coming up.
- 3:58Speaker 3: Obviously that's a very triggering time for a lot of veterans.
- 4:02Speaker 2: But hopefully a lot of good work.
- 4:03Speaker 3: Will come out of that commission looking after the needs
- 4:07Speaker 3: of veterans. So it's certainly something I'm interested. Yeah, I
- 4:13Speaker 3: would say it's a local specific passion.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Now obviously or I'm assuming you'll be quite
- 4:20Speaker 1: heavily involved in the establishment of the new mental health
- 4:23Speaker 1: facilities that we are expecting in Darwin as well.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Yes, and I have been.
- 4:29Speaker 3: I mean probably part of my I guess prerequisite for
- 4:31Speaker 3: the role is that I've done that sort of work.
- 4:33Speaker 3: So when I was in Melbourne working at the Austin
- 4:36Speaker 3: I set up their emergency services and their short stays
- 4:39Speaker 3: for chiatry service. So I'm being very excited to work
- 4:41Speaker 3: with Ashford architects up here looking at the new sexped Sarah,
- 4:46Speaker 3: which is the short state chatry unit that will be
- 4:50Speaker 3: built adjacent to the emergency department.
- 4:52Speaker 2: And there also be an eighteen new impatient unit.
- 4:55Speaker 3: So the physical structure gets built, but you've got to
- 4:58Speaker 3: get the governance and the foll is right and the.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Mix of staff right, and you've got to have that
- 5:03Speaker 2: clinical leadership that really sets the vision of.
- 5:05Speaker 3: How they're going to run and what the model of
- 5:07Speaker 3: cares are. So yes, very much involved.
- 5:10Speaker 1: And what are some of the key challenges do you
- 5:12Speaker 1: think here in the Northern Territory when it comes to
- 5:15Speaker 1: delivering good mental health outcomes?
- 5:18Speaker 3: Well, there's there's lots of challenges. If you look at
- 5:21Speaker 3: the statistics, and we talk about them all the time.
- 5:23Speaker 3: We have the highest rate of death by suicide.
- 5:25Speaker 2: In the country. We have the highest rate of morbidity.
- 5:28Speaker 3: I think they say about fourteen percent of our total
- 5:31Speaker 3: disease morbidities mental health as opposed to seven percent everywhere
- 5:34Speaker 3: else in Australia.
- 5:36Speaker 2: We've got the tyranny of distance.
- 5:38Speaker 3: We've got a lot of very sparsely populated areas of
- 5:43Speaker 3: a country, you know, a lot of remoteness.
- 5:45Speaker 2: So I think the challenges in meeting you know, some of.
- 5:49Speaker 3: Those really difficult statistics and those difficulties of resource allocation
- 5:53Speaker 3: and difficulties of remoteness.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Now we have to look at what worksfirst. We have
- 6:00Speaker 2: we can.
- 6:00Speaker 3: Better recruit, how we can better retain staff, how we
- 6:03Speaker 3: can lean into other technologies like chelly psicia tree to
- 6:07Speaker 3: do some of the roles where we can't just easily
- 6:11Speaker 3: get to a person that needs needs our help. So
- 6:14Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of a lot of challenges,
- 6:17Speaker 3: but I think there's a lot of hope and a
- 6:19Speaker 3: lot of innovation, a lot.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Of things that we can do differently in Sparta.
- 6:23Speaker 3: And I really really am optimistic about the next two years.
- 6:29Speaker 1: And so from your perspective, you know, what are going
- 6:31Speaker 1: to be those key priorities for you over those next
- 6:34Speaker 1: couple of years.
- 6:37Speaker 3: Well, there's a few kind of immediate priorities. So we've
- 6:41Speaker 3: been looking at a new mental health Act. A lot
- 6:43Speaker 3: of people would be aware that you know, someone's acutely acute,
- 6:48Speaker 3: the unwell and at risks themselves. For others, the mental
- 6:51Speaker 3: health service is different to other areas admits, and that
- 6:55Speaker 3: people can be treated and voluntarily.
- 6:57Speaker 2: And sometimes that's an ugly necessity, but we.
- 7:01Speaker 3: Wanted to be done in the safest and most dignified
- 7:04Speaker 3: way where we respect people's rights, we respect their dignity,
- 7:09Speaker 3: and you know, there's that.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Balance of risk.
- 7:11Speaker 3: And I think we need to bring our Mental Health
- 7:14Speaker 3: Act in line with all the other states and territories.
- 7:18Speaker 2: So that will be a key piece of.
- 7:20Speaker 3: Work that we'll be doing in bringing in a new
- 7:23Speaker 3: Mental Health Act. Obviously, some of the new services that
- 7:27Speaker 3: will be developing, we'll have to look at quite a
- 7:31Speaker 3: lot of the governance systems that either un in place or.
- 7:35Speaker 2: We'd like to optimize.
- 7:38Speaker 3: So certainly a lot of things, I mean, And one
- 7:40Speaker 3: of the really key things I'd also mention is just
- 7:43Speaker 3: bringing the care and consumer into the conversation. I think
- 7:46Speaker 3: it's really important people with lived experience of mental health
- 7:49Speaker 3: are brought more into the center of these discussions. Probably
- 7:55Speaker 3: everybody you know either has had a mental health issue
- 7:58Speaker 3: or has a loved one with.
- 7:59Speaker 2: A mental health issue. Yeah, I think it's really important.
- 8:02Speaker 3: Just having these conversations about distigmatizing mental health, making people
- 8:06Speaker 3: feel they can easily access service and they don't feel
- 8:09Speaker 3: embarrassed to do so, and that you know that everybody's involved.
- 8:14Speaker 3: I think the thing about a chief psychiatrist is you
- 8:17Speaker 3: don't want to be paternalistic and think everything's about the doctor.
- 8:20Speaker 2: It's not.
- 8:21Speaker 3: It's about the whole system and the community and how
- 8:23Speaker 3: we all work together for better mental health.
- 8:26Speaker 1: Well, doctor David Mitchell, the new chief psychiatrist here in
- 8:30Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. I really appreciate you taking the time
- 8:32Speaker 1: to have a chat with us this morning and you know,
- 8:34Speaker 1: explaining the position a little bit more for us because
- 8:37Speaker 1: it does indeed bring us in line with other states
- 8:40Speaker 1: and territories. So appreciate your time this morning.
- 8:44Speaker 3: I really appreciate time to talk with you.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Have a great day.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Thank you. You two