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Your Turn · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in that I am all in with
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  Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, an I Heeart radio podcast. We're gonna do
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  Speaker 1: a new little segment here. We're gonna have fans calling
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  Speaker 1: into the show with questions, and the first one we
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  Speaker 1: have is Francesca, Hello, Francesco, are you there? I'm here. Hi.
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing? I'm good? How are you good? Good?
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  Speaker 1: Where are you calling from? I'm from Chicago, Chicago, Chicago,
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  Speaker 1: great city, great city. What a town? What a town? Yeah? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: And what is your question? Um? So? The question that
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  Speaker 1: I had, well, I did have two because I didn't
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  Speaker 1: like the one that I had, But the first question
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  Speaker 1: that I had was from the last episode, um the
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  Speaker 1: one where you're not wearing your socks. Um So. The
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  Speaker 1: question that I had was because I love the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I love the show. I listened every week. I can't
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  Speaker 1: wait every week. I'm like so excited to hear from
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  Speaker 1: you guys. So, M the what I what you guys
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  Speaker 1: didn't mention was I thought that Nicole was deliberately trying
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  Speaker 1: to get caught, so that she did that on purpose
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  Speaker 1: to get a rise out of him, out of loop,
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  Speaker 1: to see you know what he would do if she
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  Speaker 1: if she would get his attention from that. So I
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  Speaker 1: guess my question was if that was if you were
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  Speaker 1: in that situation, would you do the same thing, Would
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  Speaker 1: you make it deliberate to get caught, or would you
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  Speaker 1: kind of go quietly? I well, I've I've that actually
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  Speaker 1: happened to me once, and I remember how I reacted.
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  Speaker 1: But you were asking me to put myself in in
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  Speaker 1: Nicole's shoes, and would I ever do something now? I
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  Speaker 1: would never do anything like that. Yeah, that's what it
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  Speaker 1: seemed like to me, like he was trying to get
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  Speaker 1: a rise out of him because she wasn't getting to you.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's that's I have been on the other
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  Speaker 1: end of it, and and I didn't I did that
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  Speaker 1: girl did not get the reaction that she was hoping for.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think Nicole was cheating on Luke. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I found someone new, right right. I was thinking, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, like I could say, you know, I could
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  Speaker 1: think something differently than that, just because of the whole situation,
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  Speaker 1: seeing everything with everybody altogether, with Laura Lee and the
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  Speaker 1: whole relationship. I feel like she was trying to get
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  Speaker 1: some kind of, you know, a rise out of him,
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  Speaker 1: some kind of attention that she was like she did
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  Speaker 1: she was trying to gauge his level of interest in
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  Speaker 1: her right cheating, but maybe it ended up that way.
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  Speaker 1: But so at that point she was like, over it,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just going to do what I want to do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: is he going to fight for me? Kind of right,
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like it's kind of like a hail Mary,
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  Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, because she's at the end of her rope,
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  Speaker 1: but she really is not ready to let it go.
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  Speaker 1: But let's see, how is this man going to just
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  Speaker 1: throw down and fight for me at this point? You know,
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  Speaker 1: Let's see what he does. It's a good theory. It's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I have seen that play out in real life. It's
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  Speaker 1: entirely possible. Sure, wait, I'm curious what your other question was.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, so my other question was because I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I'm more of a Suki what you guys were
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  Speaker 1: talking about the last episode of Who You're Most Like?
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  Speaker 1: So I was going to ask you, is who your
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  Speaker 1: BF in the show would be? Like a Suki to
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  Speaker 1: a Laura life, who you would choose as your BF?
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  Speaker 1: Like Lane and Rory? Who would be your BF in
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  Speaker 1: this show? If you could check one guy? Who would
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  Speaker 1: have been any character. It could be you do you
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  Speaker 1: tell your you don't want to tell yours first? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think my BF and the show would
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  Speaker 1: be you know, obviously Laurel Lie. But I think other
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  Speaker 1: than that, well, not of interest, like you're kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: don't you personally talk to like kind of like I said,
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  Speaker 1: like a Suki and a Laurea life, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think weirdly, I think weirdly it would be Kirk. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I like that because I can't think of anybody else
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  Speaker 1: that I would go to. Who would I go to?
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't go to Taylor. I wouldn't go to anybody.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's nobody to go to. It's Kirk, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and there it would be highly comedic choice. Yeah Logan.
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  Speaker 1: If Logan can't be my lover, I take him as
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  Speaker 1: and I don't want to be right right totally. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you guys so much. I love every minute of this show.
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  Speaker 1: Every week I listen while I cake decorated, work every day,
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  Speaker 1: work all day. So I have you guys in my
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  Speaker 1: ear laughing to my but I love well, we're really
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  Speaker 1: I'm really happy you enjoyed it, because really, the way
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  Speaker 1: we uh designed this show is to be more of
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  Speaker 1: a freestyle open and to kind of play and jack, yes, totally.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I love it. You guys go out of order.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to love it all. But thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much. You're very very well. I have been waiting
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  Speaker 1: for the fans to kind of get in on this,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm still thinking. Cool, send us a cake and
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  Speaker 1: we'll pump your business. I believe I was gonna say it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you did. Yeah, we'll pump your business already,
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  Speaker 1: you got it? Yeah, man? Cool? Yeah? What how do
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  Speaker 1: people find your cakes? I'm at on Instagram missus fran Cakes,
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  Speaker 1: so it's like cakes but missus Francakes, missus fran Cakes
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram. All right, cool, so go to missus fran
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  Speaker 1: Cakes everybody. And that's so I heard rumors before you
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  Speaker 1: even came on some of the finest cakes in Chicago. Well,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much, and I love you guys, so
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  Speaker 1: thank you, guys. We love you too, and we're looking forward. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: basically all right, Francesco, going guys a little bit, love it,
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  Speaker 1: love it, we will thank you, Thank you, all right,
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  Speaker 1: thank you? Okay, we've got Jenna. Yeah right, look at that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just looked it up. Look at that you got
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  Speaker 1: some cakes. Oh my god, her cakes are so good.
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  Speaker 1: Oh there goes my stomach again. I'm gonna need more
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  Speaker 1: sit ups. Must I do all worth it? I'm sure?
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  Speaker 1: All right, we've got Jenna on the line. Hi. Jenna, Hello, Hi,
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  Speaker 1: where are you calling from? Saint Louis, Missouri? Saint Louis?
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  Speaker 1: All right, thank you guys so much for doing this.
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  Speaker 1: This is an honor. Oh well, it's an honor. Have
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  Speaker 1: you come on? We're who's idea? This was? Was? Amy?
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  Speaker 1: Was this your idea? Yes? I can explain. Why tell me?
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  Speaker 1: Tell me why because like four hundred comments this week,
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  Speaker 1: right who were just so fired up? But I was like, better,
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  Speaker 1: we better get them on the here. I love it. Jenna.
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  Speaker 1: What do you What do you do in the Saint Louis? So?
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  Speaker 1: I work in banking, um with small businesses. Oh great,
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  Speaker 1: good for you helping them out getting them their loans
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  Speaker 1: that they need. Yes, we do need. That is so true.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. I have a small business and we certainly
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  Speaker 1: could use all the help we can get. So what
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  Speaker 1: is your question? Jenna? So my question is, since you
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  Speaker 1: guys are about halfway, maybe a little over, halfway through rewatching.
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  Speaker 1: For those who have not seen all the way through,
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  Speaker 1: where would you like to see the main characters go
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  Speaker 1: and develop? And for those of you who have or
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  Speaker 1: maybe have like memories from a year in the life,
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  Speaker 1: where would you like to see those characters go? After that?
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  Speaker 1: All the characters are I'd say, just the main characters,
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  Speaker 1: your favorites. Well, you know, listen, for me, it's always
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  Speaker 1: been about a wedding, you know, to to put the
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  Speaker 1: cherry on top of the cake. Here on the show,
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  Speaker 1: it's always been a big wedding, a big community wedding,
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  Speaker 1: town wedding. Everybody's involved. That's that's how I always envisioned it.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you could get a bunch of episodes,
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  Speaker 1: uh that deal with just that. It would be quite entertaining,
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  Speaker 1: I think, quite satisfying for the fans. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: what the fans want. Yeah, I can I answer Sean.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like Daniell's gonna need to take her headphones.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. Probably I thought the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, thank you, Um, I want to see who
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  Speaker 1: the baby daddy is and thank you. It's logan like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that you want it to be Logan too, Jenna,
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  Speaker 1: I do, but I also want her to raise the
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  Speaker 1: baby with Jess. Wait a minute, Logan baby raised by Jess.
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  Speaker 1: I think that Jess gets her the most and like
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  Speaker 1: knows her heart the best, especially after watching like the movies. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and Logan kind of like her. Christopher so and like
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  Speaker 1: he can he can provide, But will he be able
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  Speaker 1: to raise the baby a little bit? How I feel
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  Speaker 1: about Carrie Big and Aiden? M I see that's so torn.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very torn. I'm always torn between Big and Aiden,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm always torn between Jess and Logan. But I
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  Speaker 1: just gravitate toward Logan. But I wonder if it's the
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  Speaker 1: same reason I gravitated toward Big, and now I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: just ready for Aiden, right, all right, Well there you go. Um,
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  Speaker 1: this is giving me a lot. Shure he's held on
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  Speaker 1: the old headphones. You can join us. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. Thank you for your questions, like straight faced
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  Speaker 1: the whole time, and I was like, I just look
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  Speaker 1: at my email. I sent you on your headphon. Hi, Jenna,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for calling in appreciate it, thank
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  Speaker 1: you and pleasure, Thanks so much, and thanks for helping
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  Speaker 1: out small businesses, especially after the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: They really need it and you're doing you're doing good things.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you for that. Thanks so much, and shout
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  Speaker 1: out to Saint Louis, great town. I love the Arch. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: love love Saint Louis Cardinals. Sean Sean Gunn is from
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  Speaker 1: Saint Louis. Yes he is. He's a Saint Louis boy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: yes he is. Um, so we know what good things
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  Speaker 1: come from Saint Louis. True. Thank you so much, Jenna,
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  Speaker 1: much appreciated. Thank you all right, have a good one
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  Speaker 1: you too, alrighty, So isn't this fun? I like talking
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  Speaker 1: to people. You're very good at this me. Should you
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  Speaker 1: just say hello? We should do this like every few weeks. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: once every couple of months. I liked the idea, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: every couple of months. You're really good at it. We
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  Speaker 1: knew it because you were kissing babies and hugging grandmas.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, these are the people that make your career
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  Speaker 1: and it's a little harder for them to be mean
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  Speaker 1: to us when they're talking. There are no buddy's gonna
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  Speaker 1: They're not people aren't being mean to us a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: It's just three years of being isolated in their houses.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, the amount of comments this week were insane.
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  Speaker 1: It was I know it was. I think I think
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  Speaker 1: it was like four hundred comments on one post. It's
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  Speaker 1: like one of our most ever. And what was the
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  Speaker 1: main sticking points? Some people were with you and some
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  Speaker 1: people weren't. It was a lot about what about the
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  Speaker 1: college education thing? No, about Dean? Oh about Dean? The
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  Speaker 1: Dean thing? Right, sure, it's so funny. The one comment
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  Speaker 1: that I thought was funny is so I's like, you
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  Speaker 1: guys know, it's just a show, right. I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's a religion. It's a religion, and these are deities. Man,
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  Speaker 1: it's not just a show. Jessica, are you there? I'm
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  Speaker 1: here somewhere. Hi, Jessica, you're you're here because we can
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  Speaker 1: hear you. How are you doing? Good? Good? Where you
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  Speaker 1: calling in from Connecticut? Connecticut? What part o the great
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  Speaker 1: state of Are you calling the middle? And it's about
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  Speaker 1: sixty five degrees today? Oh? Man? What a beautiful state
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  Speaker 1: the middle right in the middle, in the middle. Yeah, yeah, boy,
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  Speaker 1: what a beautiful state. What a beautiful state? Do you
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  Speaker 1: do you ever get down to Westport and go sailing? No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm afraid of boats, so you wouldn't be doing right. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we coming from a person who's afraid of everything. Me.
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  Speaker 1: Why boats? It's like the what is it about boats? Think?
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  Speaker 1: I don't like not being on solid ground? I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: Why will you go on plant? Yes? But it's not
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  Speaker 1: the same feeling. It's like that I get that like
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  Speaker 1: zero G feeling when I'm on a boat and on
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  Speaker 1: a plane. I don't really get that interesting. So what
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  Speaker 1: do you do? What do you do in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of Connecticut? Um? I do a lot of outdoors, like hiking, snowboarding,
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  Speaker 1: mountain biking. Nice. So nice, man, I tell you, I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting jealous. I'm getting jealous. Man. You mentioned snowboarding. Yea,
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  Speaker 1: So what is your question? Okay, so I was wondering
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  Speaker 1: this is for you, Scott Ann Daniel. Um. Do you
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  Speaker 1: think your original assessment feelings of the characters, specifically Emily,
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  Speaker 1: were made too quickly early on or do you think
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  Speaker 1: the show was written specifically that way, so, for example,
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  Speaker 1: that you would be on Emily's side in the beginning
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  Speaker 1: before you realize what kind of parents she was. Well, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I can't, but I'm experiencing the show the way
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  Speaker 1: the fans experienced a show back in two thousand and
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and one, two thousand and two, because they
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  Speaker 1: didn't know either, so they all everybody drew their own conclusions.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have, right, right. So so that's the experience
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  Speaker 1: that I'm having in real time to all the fans
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  Speaker 1: who've already seen it five thousand times and have figured
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  Speaker 1: out all the match nations uh and interconnected uh family stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm they're they're they're coming at me with a
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  Speaker 1: with a with a an experience and a knowledge base
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  Speaker 1: that I can't match. I'm just giving these are my
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  Speaker 1: first impressions. So yeah, I guess to answer your question,
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  Speaker 1: that's probably what we were all supposed to be feeling,
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  Speaker 1: given the level of talent of these writers, right um uh.
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  Speaker 1: And I say this in the best possible sense, how
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  Speaker 1: highly manipul what if they are, and how good they
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  Speaker 1: are to lead you down a certain track and then
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  Speaker 1: surprise you. So yeah, or do do the do the
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  Speaker 1: opposite of what you think they're going to do? Or
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  Speaker 1: they make the big small and the small big and
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  Speaker 1: you just don't expect a lot of these things. So
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  Speaker 1: I think for most of the fans. It's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fun to take that ride with me and and
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  Speaker 1: the team here, um because for me it's the first
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  Speaker 1: time and maybe they can recall, you know, their their
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  Speaker 1: memories of watching it for the first time now that
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  Speaker 1: they have it all figured out. Anyway, Danielle, what do
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  Speaker 1: you think? I completely agree with you on the whole
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  Speaker 1: writer thing, Like I definitely think that it was made
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  Speaker 1: like it was made to be that way, like a
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  Speaker 1: switch of heart, you know, halfway through or whatever. But
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  Speaker 1: with Emily specifically, I have the exact opposite feeling like
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  Speaker 1: I've always really loved her, Like I've always loved her,
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  Speaker 1: but it was never on her quote unquote team until
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  Speaker 1: season four. Like this season I'm like, I'm so team Emily.
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  Speaker 1: I think everything she's doing is like I just love
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  Speaker 1: her so much and I support everything she's doing. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean my original like assessment of her, I thought
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  Speaker 1: she was this tough cookie that nothing can break her,
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  Speaker 1: and that she is, you know, the will never show
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  Speaker 1: her emotions. And now in season four we're just seeing
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  Speaker 1: all her cards. So so yeah, she's definitely changed for me. Cool,
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  Speaker 1: good question. I've seen it so many times I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember what I thought about her back in two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and one, so I was just curious if it was
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  Speaker 1: if the writers really are that awesome that they design
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  Speaker 1: it so that you perceive at certain ways. Ye right, yes, yes, um,
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  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean just just just think about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, how interwoven and complex these characters are, and
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  Speaker 1: how difficult it would be to write something like that
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  Speaker 1: Weekend week out unless you had a real storyboard up
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  Speaker 1: there beforehand and maybe changed around a little bit. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're looking at a wall of post it
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  Speaker 1: notes and different colors representing different characters, and their paths
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  Speaker 1: are somewhat plotted out beforehand. Yeah. I read something interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember I read something interesting. I'll have to
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  Speaker 1: find it. It was in a Gilmore book and Amy
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  Speaker 1: had been interviewed about Digger and the breakup. How interesting,
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  Speaker 1: And I think there might have been something. Scott, this
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  Speaker 1: is a weird question. Do you think there were ever
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  Speaker 1: things that changed because something, maybe that the writer's thought
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  Speaker 1: was really going to resonate with the audience, changed when
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  Speaker 1: it didn't happen. Oh sure, yeah, oh sure, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I see, I see. That's the thing. I think they're flexible.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's like water. It's like you hope for
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  Speaker 1: the best and if something does happen. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think I think they're very um um god, what's the
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  Speaker 1: word I'm looking for? Um, flexible and how they in
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  Speaker 1: their approach and you can kind of tell, right um.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's a huge, huge undertaking to
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  Speaker 1: bring on a writing staff and to get them in
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  Speaker 1: a room and keep them in a room. And I
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  Speaker 1: mean the writing staff on this show is just top
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  Speaker 1: notch and they just I mean not to talk about
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  Speaker 1: it now, but season seven has a lot of controversy,
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  Speaker 1: right right that it's a different animal. Sure, yeah, but anyway,
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  Speaker 1: there you go. So thank you, Jessica. Have fun, stay
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  Speaker 1: safe snowboarding, and you're so lucky to live out there
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  Speaker 1: in a beautiful place. Um. Enjoy and enjoy and thanks
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  Speaker 1: for calling in. Yeah, thanks for having me by guys.
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  Speaker 1: You got it. Courtney, how are you? Hello? Courtney? How
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  Speaker 1: are you? It's very nice to meet you. Nice to
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  Speaker 1: meet you as well. Where are you calling in from?
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  Speaker 1: I'm from Well, I'm in Illinois, but I'm from the suburbs.
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  Speaker 1: I never lie in pretend like I'm from Chicago. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: the suburbs is good. Right, there's more space, lower prices,
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  Speaker 1: and absolutely clean air. So what do you what do
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  Speaker 1: you do out there? I'm actually a mental health therapist.
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  Speaker 1: Oh nice, So you went to school got a degree. Nice,
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  Speaker 1: Good for you. Yeah, I work with children and adolescents
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: and then I do a lot of like young adult work. Oh.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: You must be very busy with this coming out of pandemic,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: all these poor kids, right wow. Oh yeah, it's been very,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: very busy. And actually it was kind of interesting that,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: like it was very busy, and then it was the
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: moment the world opened back up again. People kind of
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: took advantage of that, and now I've had a lot
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: more people come in more recently. So this was awesome
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: because you guys are my one gap in between my
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: sessions today. This is the best break ever. Well, good
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: on you for helping out all those people and all
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: those kids. They sure need it. And thanks for thanks
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: for being a fan. What's your question? So my question
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: was I wanted to know what you guys thought was
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the biggest lesson that you guys have each learned from
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the relationships that we've seen so far. So, like, what
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: do you think Luke learned from each of his relationships,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: and then like Laurel and Rory, because we've kind of
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: seen a good couple rounds here of relationships. So I
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: was just interested to see. I think what Luke learned
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: from all of these relationships, whether it's Laurel or jess
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Or is that he's not his heart's in the right place,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: his intentions are good, but the road to hell is
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: paved with So I think he's finding out that he's
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: not particularly good at them, um, because I think he's
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit of an isolated guy and he's got
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: his own little set of phobias that you know, come
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: to the surface when he's put into these situations that
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: he's that he's not capable of dealing with. So he
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: either just shuts down or overreacts and he runs. It's
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: like the fight or flight response. He he likes. He
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: likes to run a lot. Yes, So That's what I've
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: learned about Luke. Yeah, very cool, And I was just curious,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: like now that especially Laureli, like because she's gone through
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Christopher and Max and Digger at this point, Um and
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: them that briefing with Alex, do you like, what would
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: you say was kind of the overall lesson she's learned,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: whether based on each relationship or like as a grand whole.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: So far, what do you think she's kind of taken away? Um? Amy,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: you want to try that one? Yeah, because well, okay,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: so I come to this with the knowing what's coming,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: and so please don't hate me nothing yet. Okay, I
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: don't think she's learned anything yet. Yeah, That's what I
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: was very curious about, because knowing where things continue to
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: go and evolve and change too, It's like, what what
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: really is she carrying with her as she engages in
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the future, but also where where she fully learns until
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: a year in the life. If I'm going to be
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: a really honest Yeah, she's so reactionary and so all
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: over the map emotionally, and yeah, I don't think she
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: has a handle on I mean, I mean, she's got
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: this sort of survivors emotional life where she's good at
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: that and she knows from that, But as far as
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: healing old wounds and really understanding why she is the
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: way she is, I don't think there's a lot of
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: self awareness there. Yeah. Yeah, I think because she's just
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: so she's just in such defensive mode all of the time,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: all of the cracks and all the jokes and all
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: of the putdowns, I mean right in front of her parents.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: And I know that's you know, it's a TV show,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: so this is serving us as an audience and the
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: whole time. But I mean, if we're to be you know,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: completely clinical about it, um, yeah, I don't. Yeah, there's
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: not a there's either a tremendous amount of self awareness
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: where she's just moved on and accepted the fact, or
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the opposite where there's none. And it's just like it's
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: just all fear based covering. And that's why people want
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: a year in the life too, so bad, because there's
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: so much more we want to see this evolved. Fine,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I think at the end of the year in the Life,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: she's she's evolving, right, Yeah, I don't know, that's just mine.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: And she discovers all of this at the big wedding,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: big huge wedding. Yeah, it's kind of like my thought
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: is kind of like she goes into each relationship the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: same as though the last one didn't just happen, and then,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: like you're saying, she becomes very reactive when all of
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: a sudden something similar comes up, But there's no difference
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: in her response or how it's handled, and then she
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: just runs away or tries to deflect it off. But
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I think that Jason styles relationship. I think she did
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: learn something from that, and I think she did evolve
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: and grow a little bit from that because of the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: way she handled breaking up with him was like, you,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I can't be with somebody that's going to assume my family.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: And so she chose a side that was that was
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: that was significant. It was deep, It was really deep,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and I think it was the beginning of some kind
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: of a the on of awakening on who she really
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: is and where she comes from and maybe maybe accepting
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: it a little bit instead of trying to keep them so,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: you know, it's such a distance, it's like I am
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: who I am, and maybe that's the first time she
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: may realize it. I don't know. That's so accurate, Scott.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: She's the Gilmore and she's picking the Gilmore. Yes, and
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: we never get to see her do that. Right, That's
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: why I really do fit here. These are my people,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: as much as I don't feel like I relate to them,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: like they still are me, Like this is my family,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: this is my blood is thicker than water. Right, Because
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: she got to experience a little bit of death right
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: with her. Her. The precursor for act the actual dying
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: was in that scene where her parents were acting so
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: off the wall and so bizarre and so disconnected and
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: she didn't know why. And that's the same thing as
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: experiencing a parent that you know, perhaps you haven't seen
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: them in a while, and then they have Alzheimer's and
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: they don't remember who you are or they're they're just
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: not and it's like, that is shocking, and that'll shake
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: somebody to their core and bring them back into the
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: fold as a caregiver or as somebody who wants to
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: really reconnect or or get to the bottom of why
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: and just leave all that other garbage behind because it
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Right, All of a sudden, real life presents
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: itself and we see that we're like, you know, finite beings,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: and then we're not going to be around forever, and
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: we better embrace our our parents and who we are
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: and and just you know, that's why I thought that
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: scene it was such a big moment. It was her,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: It was her being calm and accepting who she was,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: even if it wasn't one hundred percent conscious, it was
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: there was still there was a recognition of who she was.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: It was the beginnings of a recognition. So it was
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: profound for me. It was just profound scene my favorite scene. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: So what else she got? What else she got? What
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: else you got? Well? And then so my last one
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: was about Rory. So we've had Dean, we've had Jess,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: and now she hasn't had anybody in college yet. But
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: she's also interacted with people. She's watched her mom go
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: through these different relationships. She's seen the evolution of more
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: relationships I think than she's actually experienced. So as far
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: as the lesson maybe that she's learned, I don't know
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: if you feel like it's a lesson she's learning. He
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: is coming based on her own experience or based on
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: an observation of those around her. So I'm curious. I mean,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: just that's a combination of both, isn't it. Because she
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: doesn't have enough life, she doesn't have enough miles on
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the road of life to really know exactly who she is.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: But I think for somebody for that age who grew
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: up in those circumstances where she pretty much had to
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: be the mother half the time she grew up a
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: lot faster, and I think she's working from a more
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: versatile and more more evolved tool set um coping mechanisms
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: and um, you know what, I think she's really good at.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I think she's really good at at letting water run
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: right off her back and just keep moving forward because
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: she's had to do it since she was a kid.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, though, still she's still her
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: mother's daughter. Yeah, oh yeah, but when do we see
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: But if you see this dysfunction, when when is it displayed? Right?
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: When things are true, I think what you're saying, Scott
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: is true, and she's her mother's daughter, so she's just
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: those two opposing forces can also be true. Yeah, And
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I do think what you're saying is right. She is
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: more level headed and she is different, but then she's
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: so the same, right, Yeah, And I think she tries
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: to take that one like step up from what Laurel
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I may have done, but it still might look different
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: or not even play out the same because she's not
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the age of her mom. She's not in those types
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: of relationships. She's in the this is my first love,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: and then this is my first whoa after that, and
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: it's messy. We haven't gotten to it yet, but I
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: think it's next week. Two weeks, two weeks, yeah, you know,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: last night and I was like, is this Yeah, it's
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: going it's and and and I won't even say it,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: but there's so many parallels, like we'll talk about it then,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: like loyalized disappointment, but it's like, wait a minute, are
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: you talking about? Are you talking about right now? Sorry,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: we can't, we can't. Just need to shut that down
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: right now. I will say one thing I like about
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Rory in her relationships that she never changes, Like she's
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: really true to who she is. Like right, she's always
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: wanted to be a journalist, She's always wants to do this,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and she's never like changed for a guy in that sense,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Like you know, she Dean embraced that she loved to
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: read books, and he started reading books for her, and
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: like you wanted to go to college. And then with Jess,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: that was their whole relationship that you know, he did
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: read all these books that Dean never did or didn't
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: know and with and with jumping ahead a little bit
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: with Logan, like he just kind of understands that she
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: wants to be successful. So like I think with all
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: of that like she's staying true to who she is.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I think she's a lot to learn, um. But I
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: think that just she didn't change for any guys, which
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I respect. If I look at the generations of Emily, Laurela, Rory,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: we are getting the same behavior, but with different ethical
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: and moral compasses assigned to each. And I thought what
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: was interesting about Rory confronting Asher at the end of
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: this episode. I thought that was an extension of the
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: family DNA. Right, that a spine of iron, Yet it
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: goes into the uh. I thought that scene went into
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the area of a little bit of self sabotage, which
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: makes sense because she's seen her mother do it. Yeah right, wow,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if Emily's ever done that, but
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: a rebellious daughter with a spine of of iron would
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: do that, and a and a daughter watching her mother
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: do that being loyal to her mother can't help but repeat.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't as deep as she didn't dig as
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: deep a hole as Laurel like sometimes digs for herself,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: as we've seen time and time again. But there's a
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: little inkling that Rory is her mother's daughter. And I
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: was imment right, right, And no, actually a big improvement.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: But but I was like, I was, you know, it's
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: like going, oh no, oh, she's gonna blow it at Yale.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Oh no, this is just don't do this, don't say don't.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Then the comment came about the redhead, and I was like,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: oh god, no, that's like that's going to leave a
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: mark and there's gonna be repercussions. Right, but she you know,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: you're you're right about that. Amy the mother's daughter. She
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: is her mother's daughter for sure. Anyway, Oh good stuff
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: is makes me think, so, yeah, yeah, you must be
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: one heck of a therapist. Could we come to Illinois
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: and get therapized to please autely? When are you guys
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: have one therapist on? Like early on in the show,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I was living for that episode. I know, I was thinking,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: we need to do that again. I would need to
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: bring that back to Courtney. We've got to make sure
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: to keep your number because I would like to do
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: that again. That was really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: maybe actually after the thing that's coming, do I have
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: to take my headphones off again? No? No, no, she
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: has to back it up, She's got to back it up.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I always have so many thoughts and like there's a
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: part of me that has my fan brain on. That's
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: just like I'm just enjoying this and I'm going through
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: it and then my therapist brain starts. But I really
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: appreciate though, that you guys put this podcast together, because
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: you guys talk about the show in such a different
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: way than I think I've experienced other rewatch podcasts as well.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: So I feel like the how in depth you guys
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: go in analyzing it, it's something again as a therapist,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I very much appreciate. But it's but that's where But
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: that's what's so fascinating about the show, Yeah, is that
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: it lends itself to that. You know, it's begging for
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: that type of analysis. You know, I don't know, it's
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: just for me, it's obvious, it's just there. It's like
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: has to be talked about. I agree with you, Scott. Yeah,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: you know it's so rewatchable, right, I think so, I
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: think I think that's another reason. Yes, it's not just
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: the pop culture references in the Yeah, it's not just
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: oh this is the show happy everybody vomiting sunshine all
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the time, you know. And I love the way people
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: have changed from the first time they watched it twenty
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: years ago to the way they see it now, and
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: that's happened for me where I'm like, wait, why do
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I like that person more or less now? Yeah? Just
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: even watching it, like I think six years ago to now,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel very differently about people and things
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: for sure, but I love it no matter what. All right,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: So Corny, we're gonna have to have you back on
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: it looks like maybe probably in two weeks. Maybe please
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: make my day. It's all the best, Teria. Thanks for
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: calling in. Lovely meeting you, nice chat. We'll do it again. Okay,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: all right, thank you guys so much. All right, take care.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: People are so nice. Wasn't she great? They're so smart,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: They're all great. Right, get my god? Hello Ashley, there's Ashley. Hello. Hello,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: connected to audio Ashley. How are you doing? I'm good?
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: How are you? Can you guys see me? Yes, we
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: can see it and all of your glory? And and
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: where where are you calling in? From? Um? New Jersey?
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Where I'm from Jersey? You're from Jersey. I'm from Jersey. Where? Um, Well,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I'm originally from northern Jersey totala um near like Wayne
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Patterson area, but now I'm Northwestern. I'm about a half
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: hour from the Poconos, so I'm like right on the boarder.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, you're way out there. Yeah, okay, cool cool.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I'm also I'm also a Rutgers al. I'm not like yourself,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: no way, Scarlett Knights. Um so, how are you doing?
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: What are you? What do you do for a living? Um?
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I am an accountant? Oh my goodness, there you go,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: but I am currently on maternity leave. I just had
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: my son two months ago. Oh lovely, And if you
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: don't mind, he would like to show you. Let's let's
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: see the little fellow. Let's see this little guy. Oh stop, stop, buddy,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: what's it's his name? Jamison? Hey, buddy, first, yes, it's
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: our first baby. Luke's sure. Look at this guy. Oh
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: what a dream? What a dream? That was so good?
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: And say no, glady, titties welcome anytime. Look at this guy?
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Is Jamieson. Have a nice life, buddy. So Ashley, what
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: is your question? Um so, I guess just I guess
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: it's more first you, Scott and Udan Yelle, since you
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: guys have never seen it, because I know Tara and
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Amy know what's coming. But I'm just curious what do
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: you guys think is going to happen based on these
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: last few um episodes where things kind of blew up?
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Because this is in my opinion, and I'm not exaggerating,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I've watched this show straight through at least one hundred times.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's my comfort show. It's on in
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: the background on every day in my house. It's my son, who's,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: like I said, only two months, has probably seen it
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: twice straight. Do you love these episodes? Like everybody? A
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: lot of people are writing us that this four are
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: their favorites of the serials. Oh yeah, there there's some
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: of the best. I'm team Logan all the way, So
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I like the Logan episodes the same I do. Two.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Do you think it's because we love Matt Zukery. I
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: just that's my thing that I haven't been able to
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: figure out. Do I love Logan or do I love
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Matt Like I don't know. I don't know. There's just
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: something about Logan and I think when I was younger
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: and I first watched these, it was the blonde hair
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that got me. Like I was always a big Nick
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Carter fan with a Backstreet boylan blue eye look. I
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: don't know what it was. But yeah, so I love
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: the Logan episodes, but this season four is I think
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the best season just because of the storylines in the
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: pod yt. These episodes are just insane. So I'm just curious.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of jealous. You've never seen it before, and
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I'm just curious that you guys think it's going to
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: having coming up. Well, I know what's going to happen
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: between Luke and Laurel. I in terms, I know the
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: kiss is coming because of course I remember that. Um,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: although I can't be sure it's going to happen in
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: season four. I think it does happen in season four.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: It might be the finale. I'm not sure. Oh God, Oh,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: for God's say, it's fine, You're fine, You're fine. See
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: you give me a hard time, Scott when I mess
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: it up. Well, you know, I'll keep them on because
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the questions for you. But you're the one that's supposed
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: to be telling people to take the headphones. That's not
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: in my resume. I don't I don't know how to
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: do that. You're good at that. It's okay. I would
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: have predicted that was going to happen anyways. Yeah, well,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: do you know about the kiss right, she does you
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: because I remember, I think we spoiled something. It's in
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: the lore of the universe. Now it's hard to talk
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: about it the show as a whole, Do you know
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Because there's so many things that I
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: can't decide. Do I think that? Because I know? Right?
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: But anyway, I have no idea when I when I
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: listen to you guys, and you say things, and I'm like, no,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: that did. But so I don't know how you do it,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: because I would be given the whole plot away. No,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I have no idea what's going to happen. I don't
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: know what's going to happen between Emily and Richard. I
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: assume they're going to work it out somehow and get
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: back together. Um. I don't know what's going to happen
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: with anything going on at Yale. I can't even predict it. Um.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I guess just more high jinks from Paris and and
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: you know, the roommate situation and uh, you know, I'm
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: assuming she'll meet a guy another guy, uh, Royal meet
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: a guy up there. Um, and I guess the dragonfly
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: gets off the ground. But as as far as providing
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: any real predictive detail, I have no idea. I just
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: have no idea. Yeah, I I do think Richard and
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Emily will be fine, Like they'll figure it out. Um.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I'm still really stuck on the Dean Brewery storyline because
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, there's obviously it's gonna something's going to
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: happen there. So I don't know what what's going to happen. Obviously,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I know she doesn't end up with him because this
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: logan guy comes in at some point, but you know,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: outside of that, I don't know there's something happening with Dean.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: That's all I know. Yeah, I feel like it's it's
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: kind of I guess it's a hard question to answer,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: so I'm sorry because there's so many ways that can go.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: But just as a first time viewer, I always wonder
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: what people you know think. Yeah, wait, Ashley, if I
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: can ask you one question before you go, what is
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: like one word that Gilmore Girls brings you? Like you've
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: seen it a hundred times? Like, what is it about it?
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Like maybe a couple of words just to describe, like
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: the it makes you feel, which is why you like
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: love it so much? It honestly it just makes me happy,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Like I just, um, I it ended when I was
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: in high school. Um, I think the year it ended,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I was graduating high school and I didn't really watch it.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I started watching it in college on DVDs when all
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: the series yeah yeah ds. We were just saying that
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: they were expensive too. They weren't. It was expensive, like
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: you had to pay like eighty bucks for the season
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: or something crazy. They would be like on my Christmas
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: list each year because I'm like, on in college, I
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: can't afford this, like somebody else care. My favorite episodes
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: at the time where when Morey was in Yale, because
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: she just looked so cool, like walking to campus with coffee.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm gonna do that, like I'm gonna
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: go get my latte and um. And now when I
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: watch it, it it just makes me think back on all
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: that and so I love that. Yeah, that's it. There's
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: something about Logan that also ages her up. Yeah, the
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: relationship is yeah adult, she grows up. I feel like
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: with Logan, and I mean, without kind of giving anything away,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like this season she kind of acting a
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: little childish in some ways, and I think she kind
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: of grows up a little bit more once Logan comes
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: until the thing, which we want to talk about the thing. Yeah,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: the thing and Logan really, Logan really feels cology to me. Yeah,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: with all his antics and like being the popular guy
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: and like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: it is about him. I've had many many conversations or
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: I guess I should say disagreements with friends, because I
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: have a lot of friends that are team Jess all
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: the way and I can't do it. If you met
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Matt Sucre, then you would understand, Yeah, he's a spectacular
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: human being. I became team Logan over but so is
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: my low so and so is Jared. It's like every
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: time we say that, then I go, well wait because
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: my low is like, yeah, well we're talking about Logan.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: So did you watch before you go? Did you watch
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: The Good Wife? Or do you watch The Resident? I
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: do not the Residence on my list though, because I
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: hear great things about so both are ex silent, and
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I also think one of the reasons I love both
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: of them it is because of Matt Zukri. So sometimes
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I go back to you do I just the show? Right?
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Like that's how I am about Milo shows though, Like
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: this is like and then he's coming out with a
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: new show. I'm like, I'm definitely watching that like one
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: hunder because of him. But like if you clicked on
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: a People magazine article and it's like Matt Zukri is
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: dating so and so or Matt Zukri marries so and so,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I will cry, But I think a little bit, I'll
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: have a little tinge of you'll die die a little
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: bit inside, just a little. Did you guys talk about
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: this episode, this next episode yet? Did you like, Yeah,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: we just finished that. Okay, Yeah, that's that's the that's
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: gonna be. Yeah, that's the that's the episode breakdown for
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the podcast. Yes, we just we just finished doing it.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I just listened to Monday's episode that you released yesterday,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Shop good. A lot of times am I to get
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: home before it's finished. I just sit in the car
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: and let him sleep, and I finished work anymore, so
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I have to go out and listen to them out
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: in my travels. All right, Ashley, thank you for calling in.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Good luck with everything, beautiful baby boy, stay in touch
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: and all the best too in your family. Okay. Also, crazily,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: James Pettitt just texted Live that there's Luke Pillows back
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: and stop. This is this is this is fantastic exactly
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: all right, as, thank you so much, take care all right,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: nice talking to you. The nicest people ever, I think, great.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Why do you think I want to go out and
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: hug there? Fantastic? That was the best text ever. Daniel's like,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Scott is thriving, Tony Hillo, how are you doing? Wait?
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Is that a real backdrop? Oh well, yes, it's actually
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: the skyline. It looks kind of Oh my god, where
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: are you were? I'm in Louisville, Kentucke. I'm coming. I'm
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: gonna be Yeah, I'm popcorn June sixteenth through eighteen. I'm
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: gonna be there. I hope to make it. It sounds awesome.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: You better be there. Looks really pretty from here. Yeah,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: so cold day. So I hear the best things about Louisville.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to go. That's so cool. I would
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: not have guessed that in a million guess cool little spot.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: So what do you What do you do over there
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: in Louisville? I am in marketing. I actually work at
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: the corporate headquarters for a senior living company. Wow. A
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: lot of responsive as it is a lot of responsibility. Yeah, absolutely,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: So what is your question, Tony, My question is, um,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I've I've obviously watched the series several times,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and I see a great shocking. We are shocked. We
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: never wait a minute? Does she win the prize? Uh,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you haven't heard it all day, but uh,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: there's a major evolution of a lot of the characters, right,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: And so as you guys are approaching the end of
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: season four, I'm curious what you all think the main
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: characters major flaws are. Oh, good question, good question. I'm
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: not anybody, but it's great to hear Scott answer that.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I want to know anything the major flaws of Okay,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: let's start with Laurela. Major flaws I think are just
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: sort of, um, there's kind of a lack of uh
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: uh self knowledge. Uh, there's I think she has several
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: blind spots because of her very strong feelings about her
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: upbringing and what happened and the choices that she made
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: and having Rory and that whole experience with her her
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: mother and father, going through that and being estranged for
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: all those years and then coming back into the uh
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: you know, the tornado that is uh that dynamic, right, So,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: uh so I think she's got to gain some insight,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: and she is gaining some insight into her own feelings,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: which I think is fascinating to watch. Uh. As far
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: as Rory flaws, Umm, I don't really see any flaws
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: in other than the one we just saw. There's a
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: little bright right, maybe a little self sabotage there, a
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: little self righteousness, but she I think she's she's very
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: circumspect and she'll sort of she'll figure it. I feel
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: like she does that a couple of times though. Yeah,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: like self sabotage herself through. Yeah, I think is you
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: guys get deeper into it. Rory's the one to watch,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: and I just you see that. We see that on
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: the Instagram comments a lot phones, headphones coming off headphones.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: But many people, not me, do not come at me
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: because I do not think this, but a lot of
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: people in the comments think Rory can be kind of toxic.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Whoa yeah, whah, I ain't talking about my girl, careful.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I think through the series you see that though you
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: see it ever really every season? I mean yeah, as
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: a season go on. Yeah, Wow, that's quite a word,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: do you. Yeah, Toxic is sort of a word like narcissist.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: It's like what does it even mean all it makes
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: me think of it's like you're toxic. I immediately put
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: you like in the toxic music video. I don't know.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. Have you guys been doing this a long time?
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: You've seen like really two years? You mean like the show,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: the podcast? I mean like today the call o No No.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: We started drinking at about three hours three hours. Yeah,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I have to go. I took I took a break.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I took a break Scott. It was so funny. I
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: don't want to oute you, but Scott's like, hey, guys,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be back in one minute. Like Scott has
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: to go. I want to, but I'm just holding it. Yeah.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I had this little voice in the back of my
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: head and said, now, I weirdly did change my clothes.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Thought during Yeah, you came back as a leopard or something. Right,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: what's going on? A cat some kind of jungle cat
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: and Tony Now you know why we get sidetracked? A
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: she came back dressed for a music video? What the
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: heck is going on? Anyway? Other major character flaws, m oh,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: give me a little bit grouchy and like, oh you
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: think I feel um? He doesn't want to admit his feelings.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: I think he's just I think he's got a hard
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Uh he's got a new get center with a hard
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: candy shell. Yeah. Yeah, alutely. I think he m he
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: gets in his own way a lot. Yes, he's always Yes,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: he's always tripping out for himself. Yeah, for sure, Uh,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Amy Daniel, I mean I think Emily and Richard are complicated.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, Like it's hard for me to kind of
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: sort of pinpoint it. They're just complicated because they're selfless
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: and selfish, they're you know, they're they're very opposing well,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Richard Richard Chers are hard working mama's boy and yeah
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and uh, you know Emily is a a
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: status seeker and a climber. Yeah. But at the end
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: of the day, I think they really love their families
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: so much, and we see that with where we're at
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: that Emily's biggest concern is that she's going to lose
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Laurlie and Rory, and Richard's biggest concern is I will
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: sacrifice everything to make sure these people that I love
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: are provided for and taking care of. So they're each
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: doing the same thing, but they have their different ways
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: of doing it. Yeah. Absolutely, I think Emily can be
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: a little woman fulative, and they all a lot of
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: all the Gilmore girls can be manipulative. There. There's something
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: about these high i Q individuals that manipulate. I don't
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: know what it is. Why do they why? Why do
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: they guy do that? Why? They're all really stubborn. Stubborn.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: That's a word we don't use a lot. And you
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: know what, I think they should be stubborn too. I
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: think that. Yeah, that's a that's a really intuitive sort
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: of words. Use it. We haven't used enough on the podcast.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: But they are. Yeah, they're tough. Yeah, and they're tough
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: when they dig in. They're tough their heart because Emily stubborn.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: They're all stubborn. We see that more coming soon. It's
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: like a Faberge egg with blood on it. These are
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: tough people, classy tough, right. Um. Yeah, So that's that's
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: basically anything. Thank you, yeah, thank you for calling in
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Tony from Lovely Louisville. We'll see you right around Saint Patrick.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: There you go. I think you're there right around Saint
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Patrick's Day, right March fifteenth and the seventh summer right, No, oh,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: you're right. It's June sixteenth, Y Father's Day. Yeah, if
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: you're in Toronto. Yeah, I'm hoping there are going to
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: be some other cast members there, so but either way, Scott,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: I'm there for you. Okay, cool, cool. I can't wait
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: to meet you in person. Thank you all so much
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: for taking the time. This is so much fun. Thank
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: you Tony. Thanks for being a part of it. Appreciate
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: you all. Right, take care. So I think people should
• 53:31
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• 53:34
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• 53:37
  Speaker 1: like we should do this every week. Actually, people are
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: so nice. I'm scared for the now that people are
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: going to be like those people are too nice. We're
• 53:45
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• 53:50
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