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Week 18 (Part 2) News & Updates + Would You Rather | Fantasy Hockey Podcast · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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  Babe about Bound Bangor Management Fantasy Hockey
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  podcast Woo Woo. Woo did a little bit of an
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  imitation there. That was good I.
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  Had a nice. Little across the board.
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  Yeah, I could. Feel it.
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  We did well, we did well. Welcome in one and all the
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  banger management, The Fantasy Hockey Podcast with Jake, Josh
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  and Kevin. Today is our Week 18 part. 2.
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  Great episode. I know I got.
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  I gotta send. It to tease.
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  He's such a tease. I'm excited to get to the
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  contents because the NHL is finally back as of tonight, so
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  yeah. It's crazy how there was like
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  just nothing going on during that two weeks, you know?
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  Yeah, I didn't watch any hockey. Nothing to talk about.
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  Not depressed. And and that's that's about it.
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  That's how I feel about life right now.
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  I'm definitely not depressed. Yeah, no spoilers.
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  You haven't seen the movie, but it was the 46th anniversary to
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  the day of Miracle on Ice. But also others.
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  They were not even underdogs going into the game.
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  They were literally the favorites.
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  USA was not the favorite over Canada.
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  Yes, they were. They would have favorite and
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  Crosby wasn't even playing. It was pretty 5050, I don't
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  think anyone was a favorite. I think it was a slight
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  favorite, but I think if you were betting odds, were getting
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  better odds for betting on the US, yes.
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  No, I really we're word on the street is that Canada was was
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  the favorite going in even with. You looking at Sesame Street?
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  I want Elm Street out here at the people were saying USA was
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  the favorite. Yeah, no, I mean, I, I think it
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  was, it was pretty, pretty split.
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  And yeah, it was brutal. There's a really brutal time to
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  be a Canadian living in the US, working in the US with in laws
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  that are American and everyone knows that.
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  I really love hockey. So I got a lot of text.
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  I'm getting cyber bullied by my wife's grandmother.
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  She just keeps sending me gifts of Canadian fans, like crying.
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  Pretty cool. They're she knows what a GIF is
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  though. Yeah, this is pretty impressive.
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  But that, that hella buck save on Davantes.
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  Oh my. God, I don't even think he knew.
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  I think he was just like, it was just, it was Terry Price ask.
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  Isn't it was it was the craziest save?
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  Yeah, but yeah. Mackinnons going home and he's
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  putting on NHL 2026 or whatever and just hitting all of those
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  shots from the side after you missed that empty net.
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  Craziness that I mean, he was obviously like very sick the
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  whole tournament, right? I mean, have you seen that that
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  that meme thinking on the bench? Yeah, Alex.
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  And I mean, you look, you look at him.
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  He looked ill. I don't know if you guys, like,
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  know, like clogged up little Ghosty.
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  Yeah. So he was clearly like, not
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  100%, but still, you're Nathan McKinnon.
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  You have an empty net to win the gold and look, you know, like
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  he's gonna be living through that for a while.
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  The main take away for me is that like 3 on three hockey
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  should not be played in the competitive format.
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  Like there's a reason why it's not in the Stanley Cup finals,
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  right? Like you don't you want five on
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  five hockey? The only reason is 3 on three is
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  because you want TV doesn't want to run too long and blah blah,
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  blah. But the fact that they put that
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  in the Olympics, I know it sounds like I'm just making
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  excuses because Canada laws and whatever, but people were
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  complaining about this before. You only three 3 is pretty much
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  like flipping a coin to decide who wins.
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  Like that's realistically. Bounce or you miss one
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  opportunity, the team gets basically a break away and then
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  you're basically just trading shots.
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  Yeah, it was definitely everyone saying this like it's like, I
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  feel like even the players on both teams, no matter who won,
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  if it went into overtime, they would have been pissed off about
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  three or three. Also speaking McKinnon, you see
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  that video of him, he like got the stuffed animal silver medal
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  and he's like. I mean, even even feel.
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  Like receiving that, that stuffed animal out here being
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  like, man, now I gotta look at this like.
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  I mean, even I, I was watching and I'm like, what the heck is
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  that, you know? Like.
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  What are we doing here? You're making these like,
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  adults, like, stand there and take the stuffed animal and all
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  they wanna do is leave, you know, like.
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  Yeah, yeah. Anyway, let's let's get into the
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  content. So Week 18, Part 2 news and
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  updates, Part 2 because of the giant Olympic week.
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  Before we dive in, follow us on Spotify, Apple podcast, wherever
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  you get your podcasts. We are there and we are as of a
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  few months ago on YouTube, as some of you may know.
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  So if you haven't checked out our YouTube channel, be sure to
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  go check that out. A lot of our reactions and
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  stuff, I think it's definitely worth it.
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  So if you enjoy it, there you go.
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  If you're listening on Spotify and didn't see lost his
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  expression, go check it out on YouTube.
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  You won't regret it. And yeah, give this video a
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  like. Also all the socials are in the
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  podcast description. And be sure to join the Discord
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  community. It was quite the quite the
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  emotional weekend watching the Olympics.
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  So great. Interactive, you know, there's
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  always, I'm really curious what percentage of the discord where
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  at least active in the discourse, Canadian versus
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  American, because I will say, I didn't feel like I didn't feel a
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  lot of Americans gloating at us, which was pretty nice, you know?
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  It's really appreciated. Yeah, I feel like it's like the
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  one spot where I talk about hockey on my phone was the one
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  place where I didn't get bullied after this, you know, like.
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  Everybody was super nice. Yeah.
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  I also want to say like the only, the only person that I
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  know that was like, you know, American cheering for the USA
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  and and speaking in the disco was Cara.
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  And she was nice about it. She was, she didn't make any
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  gloating comments or anything like that.
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  So I appreciate it. More rooting for Finland than
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  the US? I mean, who doesn't want to root
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  for Finland me when they don't have Sasha Barkov.
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  But it is what it is. Yeah, it is what it is.
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  It wasn't their choice. Let's just would have won it
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  all. Barkov was playing putting that
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  out there. Yeah.
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  He's daddy for a reason. That is true.
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  All right, let's dive in. Let's do it.
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  All right, so this is a pretty interesting skew of injuries
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  versus guys coming back healthy because it's a lot more guys
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  coming back healthy because over the course of that Olympic
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  break, right, you know, you have a few in players playing who get
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  injured, But for the most part, just a bunch of guys who had
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  time to get healthy. But let's start with the
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  injuries. So Kevin Fiala, the LA Kings is
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  out for the season, got injured at the Olympics.
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  It was brutal. I don't know if you guys were
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  watching to get stretchered off and like, pretty much like,
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  right away, they're like, yeah, he's out for the season.
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  But they did say there's a chance you come back for
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  playoffs, not fantasy hockey playoffs, but just in general.
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  So, um, so at least hopefully it's not nothing too bad.
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  That should carry over the course of the offseason or next
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  season. But who's going to replace one
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  power play 1? The big question.
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  So really it's kind of like Piala out Panarin in.
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  So there's not really anyone who was not on on power play one or
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  not on there. Who's going to be on there.
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  Now. The one thing is they might have
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  a bit of a shake up. I know I've seen read a lot of
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  stuff about Panarin being there, essentially calling the shots
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  now. So he's the new coach.
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  It's pretty much a Panera tells Hillary you want some power play
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  1 and and that's what they'll do.
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  But if I so far what I'm seeing or if we just swap Fiala with
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  the Panarin, then it would be Panarin and Kempe obviously are
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  the locks. Then I think Clark would be the
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  next one. And then of the remaining 2, so
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  far I've been seeing Corey Perry and Andre Kuzmenko as the two
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  there. Yeah, obviously you've got
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  possibilities like Kopitar and Byfield and Laferriere, who can
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  all also be there. So I think we'll see how it
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  shakes out. But I think as it stands, that's
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  where I kind of see. Yeah, like this, this is gonna
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  be, I think, a revolving door of the non campaign Panarin players
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  on this team. Crazy enough, I think that Brad
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  Clark is the third most solidified.
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  And considering this was a power play, 1A and 1B all season, and
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  obviously with Panarin going there, the intention was to move
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  towards 1 consolidated power play with the Fiala injury.
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  This changes everything. And as much as I, you know, I'm
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  intrigued by what they're going to do these these three players
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  because Mako Clark and Perry with the opportunity, like I'm
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  not really buying into it at all right now.
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  So I wouldn't trade for them on the hype.
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  Sorry. Josh and I are trying to make a
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  trade before our deadline. And Brian Clark is one of the
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  pieces you'd want to move. I wouldn't want to trade for
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  them if they're available in your league.
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  It's deep enough league pick them up.
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  But yeah, that's kind of where how I see it.
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  I mean, I I wouldn't wanna ever buy high on hype.
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  So I agree in that sense of those.
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  I think Clark is a definitely a step above like a Perry or
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  Kuzmenko. Like I think that if he's on
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  that power play one with Panarin, I think you can have a
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  very, very strong rest of season.
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  He was already putting up solid numbers before the trade,
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  especially like just shooting and blocking at a really nice
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  pace. So even when he wasn't putting
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  up points and he's one of those guys like young guy going into
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  the end of the season, finally getting the deployment that he
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  deserves. So I think there's a there's a
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  lot of chance that I agree. Like you don't want to buy on
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  that hype. So yeah.
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  But if you if he's available for pickup, like I really want to
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  pick up Clark, the other guys like could be interesting.
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  But since their spot is so not secured, I'm not like dying to
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  pick them up or anything. The only thing I have to add is
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  I think Corey Perry is like, I think he even when they were
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  fully healthy, he had a run on power Play 1 and he's really
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  good at playing his role there. And we saw like he was one of
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  the most clinical finishers in terms of power plate production.
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  Like very kind of like Jason Zucker, ask a little bit, I'm
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  not going to get you much 55 production, but he was really,
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  really good there. So I think Corey Perry, Sticks
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  and Kuzmenko, I think they can easily swap him out.
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  In my mind, they end up putting a centre there.
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  We talked about on the last waiver show, Alex, see, Alex
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  Laferriere are you was the number one pick up.
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  You're playing between Panarin and Kempe and he's the 1C on
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  this team right now. He's a banger stud to me.
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  I'm still prioritizing him as a pickup and if he ends up getting
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  this power play one spot, I feel like it's just he could be a
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  league winner, end of season league winner.
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  So he's the guy that I'm prioritizing and I'm not trying
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  to try to guess who's going to get that fifth power play one
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  spot. Yeah, for sure, he gives even
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  without the power play. Even without the power play like
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  he is a must pick up and if he gets the power play it just
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  makes him that much. Better like I'd rather let fire
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  your without the power play than Kuzmenko with the power play.
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  So I'm just gonna pick up after your either way and hope for the
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  upside of him end up ending ending up there.
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  Yeah, absolutely. Alright.
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  Sidney Crosby got injured at the Olympics, missed the silver,
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  missed the semi and final game. We won't say whether we think
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  that affected the outcome, but to you.
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  But look, there's there's still been no kind of concrete
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  timeline on his return. It's all speculation.
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  Look, we we've talked about this a bit on our episodes the past
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  couple of weeks, past week or two.
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  But the fact that he didn't play in those big games, it's got to
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  be something relatively serious, right?
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  Like if it was anything day-to-day, something like that,
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  he would have played through it. So he must have really not been
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  able to play. I view him as week to week.
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  If I had to guess, I'd say like one to two weeks type of thing
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  because they are saying, you know, they haven't ruled him out
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  completely, right? So it's kind of on the edge of
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  that. And then in the meantime,
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  Anthony Mantha should get his spot on power play one, which
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  makes Samantha. We had said he was our 10th pick
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  of our top ten and our past episode.
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  But we mentioned that if Crosby was out for any period of time
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  and I guess that spot, he becomes a lot more valuable.
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  So I'm also playing against him next week.
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  So that's great timing. But yeah, I really like math as
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  a pickup. And would you guys, are you guys
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  buying Crosby before you get a definite, like definite, you
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  know, timeline? Do you think it's worth the
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  risk? I'd be trying to buy, but only
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  if the owner is selling at like a noticeable discount That we
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  talked about it before that we if I should give my Panarin for
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  Crosby one for one. And I was so like, this was
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  before the gold medal game. So we didn't know he was gonna
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  play. They were like 70% chance he
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  plays whatever to meet the risk. The risk was too high for me to
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  feel comfortable with it. So I'd rather wait and see with
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  more knowledge. As you guys listen to this on
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  Wednesday morning, I think you guys will have an idea of the
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  timeline on Crosby as we're recording this.
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  He's in transit back to Pittsburgh.
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  So they said like, you know where to get him here.
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  We're going to evaluate him properly and we're going to see
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  how things are. So I think Wednesday we'll have
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  a good idea of what the situation looks like.
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  And I think like Josh said, I think the most likely scenario
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  was like a week to week thing and being like one to two weeks,
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  the most likely outcome. And Raquel is playing centre.
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  So that's something to note. I posted about it in Discord.
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  If he's playing centre, that's great for faceoff win leagues
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  because that's added element that is going to get to his
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  game. And Ben Kindell was still, you
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  know, third, third line C on the depth chart, which we thought he
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  may be getting a bump if Crosby was out.
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  So that's not happening. Manta taking the spot.
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  That's really good news for him. Yep.
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  Alright, Mikko Rantanen injured at the Olympics.
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  Man, are we ever getting NHL players at the Olympics again?
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  Like this is just. And this was like a surprise,
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  too. Like it felt like nothing
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  happened. And then we're getting news
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  after the Olympics ended that like, ranted in his heart and
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  more serious than we expected. And yeah, because he missed the
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  he missed the bronze medal game, but they were like, oh,
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  day-to-day then comes out that Elliot Friedman says it's not
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  season ending. And to me, if I hear the words
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  Nazis and ending, in my mind, I think, wow, it was almost season
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  ending. You know, like the fact that
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  they have to like mention that makes me think that it's worse
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  than I thought. Instead of being like, oh, great
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  season ending. So I hear not season ending.
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  I think maybe it's fantasy season ending.
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  But then I also heard from the from the coach, like Dallas
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  coach essentially saying, oh, he's definitely going to be out
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  the next two games. So they haven't ruled him out
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  for more than two games so far. So now I'm like, maybe it's not
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  fancy season ending. I view this as probably like 2
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  to 3 weeks. I don't know.
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  I don't know where you guys kinda like again, this is all
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  speculation, right? Based on like the few snippets
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  we've heard about it. So it's hard to really guess,
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  but that's kind of where my mind's at with it.
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  And in the meantime, Matt Duchene should be the one who
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  takes power play one, which is a massive pickup if you can grab
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  him. They put him, they put him on
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  IR, which is retroactive, so it doesn't really mean too much.
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  Like he'll still he's gonna miss two games, then we're going to
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  see to me. I posted in the discord, so
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  shout out if you're not already in the discord, go take a look.
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  But this really kind of like makes me hesitant to trade for
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  rent. And until we get a clearer
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  picture because it's seeming like I would not be surprised if
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  Dallas is like, we're in the playoffs.
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  Let's shut this guy down, bring him back for the NHL playoffs
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  and that's that. Then you're giving away probably
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  valuable asset for rent and then these might not play the regular
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  season anymore. So I'm hesitant unless you can
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  get like a significant discount you're happy with.
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  But I saw people being like, do I trade my Tage Thompson in my
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  mad balding? I'm just like, I would not be
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  willing to trade those guys for ranting at this point.
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  Like maybe, maybe he comes back in a week and you're happy
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  you've made the trade, but maybe he's out for the season and
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  you're devastated, you know, so. Yeah, and I, I'm also not
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  trading for him for sure high variance.
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  This could be huge boom or bust. But you know, I'm, I'm not
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  opposed if you're in a deep enough league to taking a flyer
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  on Maverick Bork, if he sticks on that top line, of course.
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  You would say that. You could laugh at it, but he's
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  playing with hints. And Robertson.
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  Are you more interested in that or a Kuzmenko?
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  I'm taking Bork. I'm taking whichever one on
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  power play 1. I'm taking Bork who's had like a
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  double double for like the past two weeks before the Olympics
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  and now the opportunity online with resident.
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  So I feel like that's a name worth mentioning.
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  It's not he's not going to take the power play one spot, no
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  doubt about it. But there is also a 5V5
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  implication here is rounded in is pretty much the most
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  important player offensively on this team.
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  No offence to all the Wyatt Johnson or Jason Robertson
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  truthers other got some Dallas fans.
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  But honestly, like this could be this could be a decent
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  opportunity for him. And the only reason I feel
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  confident in saying that before this episode dropped to you guys
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  is because I know you're not going to pick them up.
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  So I'll probably have free reign there if I want to put your
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  $1.00 Jackie. I may still put it for good
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  measure. But all this to say, do Shane,
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  fantastic opportunity here and I really like that as a pickup.
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  He could, he was great last year.
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  Obviously is not replicating it, but yeah.
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  I have a question. We talked about this right
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  before the podcast, but I'm in the league with other fantasy
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  hockey analysts and I'm staring at Matt Duchene as we speak.
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  I have 4 drum realistically. In.
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  Real in real. Life, I'm talking to him right
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  now but I can drop Monaghan Kopitar, Patrick Kane or Troy
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  Terry. Those are my 4 worst jobs.
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  My preference is drop a winger because it helps me positional
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  wise. Who would you guys drop for?
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  Matthew Shane. About any of them.
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  I'll drop any of them Shane right now.
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  Yeah, who's your highest drop? Um, who?
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  You said you wanted to drop a winger?
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  What wingers? I wanted the ideally drop a
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  winger because it helps me positional wise for my team.
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  I have Troy Terry and Patrick Kane there like the worst
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  wingers on my team. I'll drop Kane.
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  You would because he still affect he's line 2 power play 1.
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  Cherry is line 3, power play 2. Honestly I just I prefer Terry
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  even with the worst deployment. Really.
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  Yeah, I know Ken has been abysmal.
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  Do you? Is it a big difference between
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  the two centres that I mentioned and Patrick Kane?
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  Like I mean, I'd. Rather, it gives me nothing
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  besides the faceoff wins. I'd rather drop the centres than
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  Kane, but he said he wanted to drop a winger.
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  Yeah, this league has face offs. It has faceoff wins.
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  First of all, if you're not in a faceoff league and you somehow
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  are in the exact. Same question.
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  Drop Kopitar. Yeah, for sure.
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  And even with that, I still think you could probably just
• 17:15
  drop Kopitar. Yeah, his presence is good for
• 17:17
  the team, but like your team is not actually playing as the LA
• 17:22
  Kings. So much for your team.
• 17:25
  If I drop, but I'm basically punting face off wins for this
• 17:27
  week, so I have to just be comfortable with that.
• 17:29
  But I feel it's just one category and yeah, I can make up
• 17:31
  for it next week. OK, I'm gonna.
• 17:32
  Do it anyways. I think I think everyone should
• 17:35
  pick up Matt Duchene if you can because like getting power play
• 17:38
  one on Dallas for the rest of the season or for the next two
• 17:43
  or three weeks even. Like that's huge.
• 17:44
  It's one of the best places. In just dropped Kopitar.
• 17:47
  Nice, nice. Listening to Bangor management,
• 17:49
  Kevin. Exactly.
• 17:51
  Well, actually I might have to drop somebody else.
• 17:52
  I do need a goalie. I only have. 7 doesn't even wait
• 17:54
  or to to use this burner like the rest of us, he just asks it
• 17:57
  on the episode. Do I pick up Samuel Moultonboro
• 18:01
  or do I pick up? Just go to the next one.
• 18:05
  Yeah, alright. Josh Morrissey also injured at
• 18:09
  the Olympics. Luckily he's just day-to-day,
• 18:11
  the coach recently said. So he shouldn't be out for too
• 18:14
  long. Neal Pionk is taking a spot on
• 18:16
  power play one while he's gone. Pionk was injured for awhile,
• 18:18
  but he and he's just coming back now after the break.
• 18:20
  He's been a guy who can do back cats.
• 18:22
  So if this is the longer term thing, I'd really like him.
• 18:24
  But the fact that Macy's day-to-day makes it that you're
• 18:27
  not, there's no point picking him up unless you need like the
• 18:29
  one or two games where he'll be power play on.
• 18:31
  But it shouldn't be too long. Yeah, not much the other.
• 18:34
  Yeah, me neither people. People were really happy about
• 18:37
  Panko in a discord. People were really asking like
• 18:40
  Pianc or Pieology and I was just.
• 18:42
  Like, I think, yeah, we didn't know how long the injury.
• 18:45
  Was no, but this was in a discord today after the
• 18:48
  Morrissey injury news. Like they're looking to pick up
• 18:50
  Yank and PLD. And my answer was I think Field
• 18:53
  has more value rest of season but maybe if he suits your team
• 18:58
  more right now while Morrissey is out then that's not the end
• 19:01
  of the world. But I do think Morsi comes back
• 19:02
  within a week. Yeah, that's it.
• 19:04
  Like they said, he's day-to-day. And I mean, I think Pyong just
• 19:07
  had a really hot stretch last season.
• 19:08
  So people people remember that, but that was a bit of a flash in
• 19:12
  the pan, alright. Last Olympics injury, Victor
• 19:15
  Hedman is day-to-day. He got injured in warmups and
• 19:19
  then just sat on the bench for the entire game.
• 19:21
  Apparently he wanted to. He didn't want, he said.
• 19:23
  He said he. Wanted he was on the.
• 19:25
  Bench. Yeah.
• 19:26
  No, I mean, he wanted to be there with the team, you know, I
• 19:27
  guess I kind of get it. I don't know.
• 19:29
  I play hockey. I don't really wanna be sitting
• 19:31
  in my hockey equipment if I'm not gonna be playing, you know?
• 19:33
  But that's just me. I'm sure like I was meant as as
• 19:37
  professional players, it's a bit stinky, I'll be honest.
• 19:40
  But but yeah. And Darren Raddysh is still the
• 19:43
  GOAT. I mean, honestly, even if
• 19:44
  Edmonds healthy radish is still the GOAT.
• 19:46
  So it doesn't really affect that that much.
• 19:49
  But I know that a lot of people were hyped about had been coming
• 19:51
  back and we're worried for Rad as radish owners.
• 19:54
  And so there you go, a bit longer that you don't have to
• 19:56
  worry, even though we're telling you regardless, you don't have
• 19:59
  to worry. I have a Can I pull out one
• 20:03
  Darren Raddysh question? It's just crazy how this point
• 20:06
  is not what you're about to say. Sorry, because I was gonna say
• 20:08
  I'm really brutal, but I was just gonna say it's crazy how
• 20:11
  this point about Victor Hedman being injured is just kind of
• 20:13
  fantasy irrelevant. Like I still can't wrap my head
• 20:16
  around it. This is like a first round pick
• 20:17
  like 3 years ago, four years ago.
• 20:19
  I like consistently and he's always been a top defence one on
• 20:21
  your team. And then Radish just comes.
• 20:25
  Don't expect the radish. Baby, somebody in the discord
• 20:29
  today asked should I trade Evan Bouchard plus Daleen for
• 20:33
  Werenski and Radish for a better playoff schedule?
• 20:37
  No, I wouldn't do that. You wouldn't.
• 20:39
  No, I, I thought honestly it was pretty close.
• 20:42
  It was a commercial. Renski is like, I guess I would
• 20:47
  take risky because the playoff schedule like they're very close
• 20:50
  and then Dalene Radish, I mean. I think I'm taking that trade.
• 20:54
  I I leave, yes, I feel like it's one of those that you're taking
• 20:58
  it 2 downgrades potentially, but come playoff time it might just
• 21:01
  be better to have the extra games.
• 21:04
  Yeah, I could see that. I guess it was just like the
• 21:07
  sticker shock of like hearing that.
• 21:09
  I know, you know, like my first thing is like, absolutely not.
• 21:11
  But like then I'm thinking about it.
• 21:12
  I'm like. That's what we've been touting
• 21:14
  like. That is slight.
• 21:15
  Slight discount for better playoff schedule and you
• 21:17
  probably end up better in a better situation.
• 21:20
  Yeah, yeah. Honestly, I mean, it could be
• 21:24
  it. That could be the move.
• 21:25
  That could be. Scary, but saying yeah, it's.
• 21:28
  The smart move. It's like with like Radish, it's
• 21:30
  like when's the shoe gonna drop? I don't like, is he just gonna
• 21:33
  be just right into the rest of the season like this and that's
• 21:36
  it. This is gonna be the season of
• 21:37
  Darren Raddysh. Gonna get some Norris votes.
• 21:39
  Like, it's crazy, you know, like.
• 21:42
  What he's doing? Maybe you?
• 21:43
  Will honestly, yeah. Alright, let's go to the returns
• 21:47
  from injury section. OK, this is a bit more fun for
• 21:49
  all you guys out there who you know, guys and gals who had
• 21:52
  injured players on your going into the Olympic break.
• 21:55
  A lot of you are coming back from the Olympic break and have
• 21:57
  a nice healthy team and have some drops to make.
• 21:58
  So here are some guys who are coming back.
• 22:01
  We've got Igor Shishkin of the New York Rangers who will be
• 22:03
  coming back as the number one goalie.
• 22:05
  So everyone could drop drop Jonathan Quick, even though I
• 22:08
  hope you had already dropped him.
• 22:09
  I did it 10. Minutes ago, yeah, so, so
• 22:13
  striking back. Look, we know Rangers are gonna
• 22:15
  be 1 of the worst teams in the league this season, rest of the
• 22:18
  season. But Chesterton, despite them
• 22:20
  being awful all year, was still putting up really good numbers.
• 22:22
  They also have in weeks 21 to 23 A 444.
• 22:26
  So he's going to get a lot of quantity for you.
• 22:28
  And even though I don't expect many wins, I still expect good
• 22:31
  rates, stats. So I still think he's valuable
• 22:33
  guy to have. But I would try to trade if
• 22:35
  possible to lateral goalie ish. Like there's there's certain
• 22:38
  goals in certain tiers that you may just feel more comfortable
• 22:41
  going into the playoffs and knowing that like they're on a
• 22:44
  team that's good and competitive.
• 22:46
  Like who do you think you can? Like The thing is like people
• 22:49
  know the Rangers suck, right? Yeah.
• 22:51
  So, so it's the, I don't know if you're able to get like looking
• 22:56
  good or something. You're not getting Blackwood.
• 22:58
  Blackwood just better inherently.
• 22:59
  But what about Logan Thompson? Or like a Gustafson.
• 23:04
  I don't know I mean I would prefer I definitely prefer
• 23:06
  Gustafson Thompson's a close one Um, I mean you could try look,
• 23:10
  Chester can still has the big name.
• 23:12
  He's probably was the second or probably the third goal he
• 23:14
  drafted in in most leagues. Um, so maybe, I mean, everyone
• 23:20
  has to know that the Rangers are gonna be garbage rest of season.
• 23:22
  They just tried to open air and so I don't think you're pulling
• 23:24
  one over on anyone. But in fact, it's just working.
• 23:26
  Still a great goalie. So you can try and I definitely,
• 23:28
  definitely don't dislike that. How about Velcro with like bad
• 23:32
  finals week? What I mean it's, it's not a
• 23:36
  back-to-back. So you still getting 2.
• 23:37
  Started. What did I say?
• 23:38
  That was tough time at least. Trading Igor for.
• 23:41
  Vermelha. Yeah, exactly.
• 23:43
  But you're saying for Mika also has a bad playoff schedule?
• 23:46
  Yeah, that's it. But I think that Velka could
• 23:48
  have a stronger finish to the season.
• 23:51
  I still take Igor there, I think.
• 23:54
  I think it's too big of a drop in terms of quality for my
• 23:57
  comfortability. I'd want a person I'm more
• 24:00
  confident and. Because The thing is that the
• 24:02
  Rangers suck, but Igor has the amazing name value coming into
• 24:05
  the season he's regarded as one of the best goals in the league,
• 24:07
  which skill wise he is, but I feel.
• 24:09
  Like listen, if it's Igor for Velka plus Batherson, then we're
• 24:12
  talking. Though I I like it.
• 24:15
  Yeah, I would do that. Yeah, I mean, look, I still like
• 24:18
  the Rangers playoff schedule even though the Rangers sucks,
• 24:20
  so I'm not like dying to trade him.
• 24:22
  But if you can get one of those goalies who like has less name
• 24:25
  value but is on a much better team than I like Jumper, that's
• 24:30
  a that's a big one because Kemper has been obviously
• 24:31
  garbage, but we talked about him as having one of the best
• 24:34
  playoff schedules. Just got Panarin, you know, and.
• 24:37
  You also let in zero goals at the Olympics, which is very.
• 24:39
  Impressive. I don't think there's another
• 24:41
  goal. You could say they did that.
• 24:42
  So yeah, I'll probably, I don't know.
• 24:46
  You could get Kemper Plus, plus you can and.
• 24:48
  You should, you know, actually, yeah, that's a fantastic one.
• 24:51
  But like, get a big plus because like, like this is one of those
• 24:54
  cases where you might, you'll probably be happier with Kemper
• 24:57
  come playoff time, but still, like, Igor has so much more
• 25:00
  trade value that you shouldn't get a lot more in return.
• 25:03
  But I like that a lot. I'm Speaking of the Rangers.
• 25:05
  Adam Fox should be coming back sometime this week.
• 25:07
  He'll be back line on power play 1, bumping Vlad Gavrilov.
• 25:10
  And what do we think of this power play 1 minus Panarin and
• 25:14
  potentially minus Protrek once if he gets treated and minus
• 25:18
  anyone else who you know, like what do we think?
• 25:21
  Is it still like a place to be happy about?
• 25:24
  It I think it could still be an offer in.
• 25:25
  Prison. Yeah, you mean we'll coolly, but
• 25:30
  I, I I think that they can still be like a, you know, top 17
• 25:34
  power play ish. And I'm OK with that.
• 25:37
  I feel like even without Panarin, obviously it gets
• 25:39
  worse, but I feel like it makes them kind of like consolidate
• 25:43
  into a certain way that even on the power play, though, it's
• 25:45
  something they can still be solid.
• 25:46
  And I also saw Gavrilov might want to get traded now that his
• 25:49
  buddy Panarin is gone and like he came to compete and the team
• 25:53
  is blowing it up. So he's like, I did not sign up
• 25:54
  for this. And if they did, that would
• 25:57
  hurt, you know, Igor and the other, let's say, uh, makes the
• 26:02
  offence worse because they're leading less games, if that
• 26:04
  makes sense. Yeah, for sure.
• 26:06
  I mean, I think that like I think Fox is still an elite
• 26:09
  defenseman and he still has the elite playoff schedule, but I
• 26:12
  think like he's gotta lose like anywhere between like .5 sorry,
• 26:16
  no point like O 5 and .1 points per game and some power play
• 26:20
  points because of the Panera and just them blowing it up.
• 26:23
  That just inherently like, you know, you can't lose a player of
• 26:25
  that caliber and not get slightly worse.
• 26:28
  So I don't think it makes him like, you know, like a bad hold.
• 26:31
  Like, I'd still be super happy to have him, especially with
• 26:32
  that playoff schedule, but I think I think he's going to be a
• 26:35
  bit worse off. Are they gonna have a better
• 26:37
  power play percentage than the Colorado Avalanche?
• 26:39
  Rescue. I think they will, which is
• 26:41
  shocking. It's crazy, actually.
• 26:44
  Nuts. Yeah.
• 26:46
  Alright, next we have Brad Marshawn.
• 26:49
  Florida Panthers is back. He should be line one, power
• 26:53
  play 1. I mean, even strength, like
• 26:54
  whatever you want to call his line is probably gonna be him,
• 26:57
  Reinhart and Lundell. So, you know, you could call
• 27:00
  that line 1. You call the one with Kuchuk and
• 27:02
  Ben in line 1. So whatever.
• 27:04
  Line top six and power play 1 and he should be bumping Lundell
• 27:07
  off that power play unit. So should be back to UM, Kuchuk,
• 27:12
  Reinhart, Bennett, Marshawn and then we've got Uvis holding on
• 27:17
  the forward until the South Jones comes back.
• 27:18
  Actually let Uvis while Seth Jones is.
• 27:20
  Out you miss, sorry Olympian Elvis.
• 27:23
  Yeah, yeah. Latvian legend.
• 27:26
  Yeah, exactly. You don't think evis Evis will
• 27:30
  get bumped off over Lindell? Like instead of.
• 27:33
  I don't think they're gonna forward.
• 27:34
  One, no. I think they wanna run a defence
• 27:36
  and and you wish, if you look at them like actually going into
• 27:39
  the break he was actually producing.
• 27:41
  So it was like it's working, let's keep running it.
• 27:44
  Obviously as soon as Seth Jones is even half healthy, he will
• 27:46
  take his spot. Yeah, but for the moment, but
• 27:49
  he's very, very one-dimensional to I'm not expecting any hits or
• 27:51
  block. So it's very, very much like
• 27:53
  you're getting power play exposure from the defenceman
• 27:55
  position. You're happy about it.
• 27:56
  That's. Pretty much, yeah.
• 27:57
  So pretty much for Marshall, like he was kind of day-to-day.
• 28:00
  He came back for a game, then left and whatever before the
• 28:03
  Olympics. Would you just shut down?
• 28:05
  I was worried, but then he played and like, we didn't
• 28:07
  really hear much about it, but but yeah, definitely, yeah.
• 28:11
  I saw some reporters say like the way Marshall's playing, he's
• 28:13
  playing like he knows like this is gonna be like his last hockey
• 28:16
  of the season. Like he was trying to go hard.
• 28:18
  Like people were just like he's going so hard.
• 28:20
  This guy was hurt. Like maybe he's just putting it
• 28:22
  all out there because he knows he's gonna come back and could
• 28:25
  be get could be getting shut down like Florida is.
• 28:28
  Their playoff chances are pretty low, even though we all think
• 28:30
  they're try their hardest to make the make it happen.
• 28:33
  If they start losing it as soon as they're back like they might
• 28:36
  just say sayonara. Yeah, I mean, I feel I fully
• 28:39
  agree. I know we talked about like 2
• 28:41
  games ago, like Olympics wise, like I was certain that he was
• 28:44
  getting shut down. Yeah.
• 28:45
  And then maybe I like kind of fell for it, like cause I saw
• 28:47
  him out there and I didn't hear anything about it, but that
• 28:50
  makes a lot of sense. Also if like I also like it kind
• 28:53
  of ties into the whole Crosby thing, like us thinking it's
• 28:56
  more serious, the fact you didn't play.
• 28:58
  I think the fact that like, I think any of these guys would
• 29:00
  have played through injury if they felt they were capable.
• 29:01
  So I could see Marshall having done that, knowing in his head
• 29:04
  he's like, yeah, I'm making the injury worse, I'm going to play
• 29:06
  through these games. Then I'm just going to be shut
• 29:07
  down for the rest of the season. I wouldn't trade for him.
• 29:11
  Would you try trading him away on the, you know, thinking?
• 29:14
  100% I'm sending offers like you guys are probably listening to
• 29:17
  this on the day of your trade deadline.
• 29:19
  So listen, you're listening to this on your morning commute to
• 29:21
  work, at work, go to the bathroom and send some trade
• 29:24
  offers for the whole day and make it happen because I would
• 29:28
  try to get him off my roster before.
• 29:30
  Lowering willing to how are you willing to go to the treat him
• 29:33
  away? That's a great question.
• 29:36
  Let me look at my roster. Would I trade him for like an
• 29:41
  Adam Fantilli? I would.
• 29:43
  I think you can make that happen.
• 29:44
  I think he's been averaging a point per game.
• 29:47
  Maybe you can get for Brad. I mean, I've been touting it.
• 29:49
  We haven't talked about Brad in a while, it feels.
• 29:51
  Good. Averaging 6 minutes a night on
• 29:53
  the. Sweetest.
• 29:53
  Yeah. I mean look, so Phil Forsberg
• 29:56
  was averaging like 2 minutes, so it clearly doesn't.
• 29:58
  Say, what about Laferriere? No, I would get higher.
• 30:02
  What about Raquel? I don't know if do you really
• 30:06
  think Brad is better than Laferriere?
• 30:09
  I don't really think that, but. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I
• 30:13
  would do it for. Brad, I think Brad is.
• 30:15
  I think Brad is better. I think Brad is better.
• 30:17
  I think Jackie was coming back after scoring that winning goal.
• 30:20
  Like maybe he's on, he's on fire and things get going.
• 30:24
  Yeah, you get like a bath person.
• 30:25
  I would love that. I know you talking about
• 30:27
  Batherson, but. Yeah.
• 30:29
  So essentially like, you know, you're still not selling.
• 30:32
  Like you can't sell him Cutter gold.
• 30:33
  He's 100. Yeah, I would do that.
• 30:36
  I'll do that too. So, like, we're kind of assuming
• 30:39
  that he gets shut down, but it's not guaranteed.
• 30:41
  So like, don't sell him for like, nothing.
• 30:44
  Still get value from it if you're trying to sell him.
• 30:46
  But like, that's the kind of the reason why we wouldn't be trying
• 30:49
  to look into sell. Yeah.
• 30:51
  OK, let's move on to the next one.
• 30:52
  Leo Carlson of the Anaheim Ducks will be back after the Olympic
• 30:55
  break line. One power play, one team player
• 30:58
  that's going to get demoted. I mean, the power play one in
• 31:01
  probably 2 on that team was a mess for a while.
• 31:03
  Like jumping back and forth. Right now what I'm seeing is
• 31:05
  it's either like both Mctavish and Seneca are bumps to power
• 31:09
  play 2. So I don't know which one of
• 31:12
  them was there beforehand who's officially the one who was
• 31:14
  getting like was there. Yeah.
• 31:16
  So, so it looks like he's getting bumped for Carlson right
• 31:19
  now. Grandma's on power play one that
• 31:20
  might not stick. So it's someone's getting bumped
• 31:23
  off of power play one out of those kind of like 3 guys.
• 31:26
  But but I mean, we talked about this.
• 31:28
  We really, I really like Carlson rest this season.
• 31:31
  I think he could get, you know, like he started off as the best
• 31:34
  player in fantasy, then he became one of the worst players
• 31:37
  in fantasy and I see him ending the season like very good, not
• 31:42
  best player in fantasy, but far from what he was doing
• 31:44
  beforehand. Um, so so I really like him as a
• 31:47
  I think he could be easily like 65% on some like that yeah.
• 31:51
  So some leaks he can be picked up.
• 31:52
  I like it if you can speculatively speculatively pick
• 31:56
  them up. They went on a tear before the
• 32:00
  Olympic break. They were awful, dog awful, some
• 32:04
  may even say, and then some do say that.
• 32:06
  And then they went on a tear 82 and over the 10 games leading
• 32:12
  into the Olympic break. And yeah, this Pacific Division,
• 32:16
  that the top six teams, it's such a, it's really competitive.
• 32:20
  So I think that I think Carlson's going to be really
• 32:23
  good rest of season. And you mentioned Gautier
• 32:25
  before. That's one of the reasons I
• 32:27
  would trade away Marshall for Gotee because I just think
• 32:29
  they're gonna have a monsters finish.
• 32:31
  Yeah, I agree. No, OK, Elias Lindholm came back
• 32:36
  from injury in order to play in the Olympics.
• 32:39
  He should be back to line one power play one on Boston,
• 32:41
  bumping Fraser Minton off that power play unit.
• 32:44
  I know people were really hyped on Minton going into the Olympic
• 32:46
  break. I think we said a bunch of times
• 32:49
  that the second line home comes back, he's going to lose his
• 32:51
  deployment and not be that relevant.
• 32:53
  So I still stand by that. I don't think I don't expect
• 32:56
  much unless he could be on that power play 1 unit and with both
• 32:59
  Linton and Zaka coming back I don't really see much much
• 33:03
  fantasy relevance for for Minton.
• 33:05
  No, I mean you cut them and you move on.
• 33:06
  Even in the deepest of leagues. Like I'm in a 20 man Lee, I'm
• 33:09
  keeping him there because he's been on my roster the whole
• 33:11
  season. But if you're not in a 20 man
• 33:12
  league, you probably caught him so.
• 33:14
  Yeah, yeah, alright. Robert Thomas of the Saint Louis
• 33:19
  Blues should be back sometime this week.
• 33:22
  He's been skating and practicing.
• 33:23
  He still hasn't been practicing on his normal line, so it might
• 33:25
  not be the first game back, but it should be back this week and
• 33:30
  he should take back line on power play 1 again.
• 33:32
  This is another one of those cases where it's a power play. 1
• 33:35
  and 2 are just a mess. And, you know, there's no real
• 33:38
  one or two. It's just a split.
• 33:39
  And they keep shifting it back and forth.
• 33:41
  So I mean, it's going to be anyone of like, neighbors,
• 33:43
  Torsky, Kairu, one of them will get bumped down.
• 33:46
  But again, they usually split the power play time.
• 33:49
  So I don't read too much into that.
• 33:51
  Do we think Robert Thomas can have a solid rest this season?
• 33:54
  And I feel like we've asked this a bunch of times.
• 33:58
  That was always the last piece of news that I saw from the
• 34:00
  coach this morning. The reporter asked him like, oh,
• 34:03
  like, you know the code. They asked the coach about
• 34:06
  Robert Thomas and he said he had a good day.
• 34:08
  I just talked to him at the end, said he felt good.
• 34:10
  It's a good step, but it's not all the way there yet.
• 34:11
  That was practice today. So I'm just like, OK, you must
• 34:14
  be kind of around the corner. Maybe he wants to get it more
• 34:16
  physical. I think that the Blues are
• 34:19
  cooked. And I think they'll be, to my
• 34:22
  mind, will be sooner, like the Rangers, like valuable fantasy
• 34:25
  assets, but like just not winning games.
• 34:27
  And they can still be productive, but their ceilings
• 34:29
  are capped. And that's kind of how I see
• 34:31
  them. Yeah, the the only difference I
• 34:34
  see between them and the Rangers and, and like the the theme
• 34:36
  there makes sense is that you don't really know who's gonna
• 34:39
  actually succeed because theoretically I would I would
• 34:42
  think that Thomas is their has the best chance on this.
• 34:45
  These are actually. Good.
• 34:46
  Yeah, exactly. But I do, I think Devorski after
• 34:51
  the Olympics, like they're actually gonna give him a chance
• 34:53
  on the power play one at least Cairo should be safer there as
• 34:57
  well. I would say Neighbors is the one
• 34:59
  of the three that you mentioned that's likely gonna be bumped
• 35:01
  off. But we'll see.
• 35:03
  I mean, I think Thomas could have a decent rest of season.
• 35:06
  But nowhere near point for game though right?
• 35:09
  Five point 8.85 I think is my guess.
• 35:12
  Yeah, and with that archetype of player, that's not the most
• 35:15
  exciting, right? The guys who gets face off wins
• 35:18
  and zero other perps. So he's just Kopitar from like
• 35:20
  last year? Yeah, we're two years ago.
• 35:23
  Yeah, exactly. Speaking of Saint Louis, Dylan
• 35:26
  Holloway is gonna be back for the first game very exciting.
• 35:30
  He seems to be practicing online one power play 2 again.
• 35:33
  The power play units I don't think really mean too much, but
• 35:35
  the line is pretty nice to see and look, I'm I'm excited for
• 35:40
  the the double double and then any points.
• 35:43
  I think it's bonus. We talked about him already in
• 35:45
  the in the waiver episode this past two days ago.
• 35:49
  But but yeah, I'm pretty hyped to see what he can do.
• 35:51
  He was one of my signature picks this year.
• 35:54
  I know it wasn't a good picture, I'll admit it, but I still think
• 35:57
  he could have a very strong finish to the year.
• 35:59
  And I have him on my team. So I'm writing, I'm writing.
• 36:02
  You're dying with him. So.
• 36:03
  So we'll see what happens. Hopefully you're writing but
• 36:07
  the, but yeah, we, we've talked about the way I feel like a
• 36:11
  little bit in the last episode, but I expect good bangers.
• 36:14
  I expect a point ceiling that has a small range of outcomes,
• 36:18
  but like a decent floor, like your floor probably .5 you're
• 36:21
  stealing is probably like .75 ish.
• 36:23
  There's always potential to go above that.
• 36:25
  But that's kind of like the strong range of outcomes.
• 36:27
  And I don't know which of these power play units is going to be
• 36:30
  the better one. But I did see news on Saint
• 36:33
  Louis that you know, Justin Falk rumors are are swirling around.
• 36:38
  If Justin Faulk gets traded like he's the quote UN quote,
• 36:40
  probably 1 quarterback. I think she loses all value
• 36:43
  wherever he goes. He's there's no way he's
• 36:45
  becoming a popular one quarterback at any other
• 36:47
  destination. And then I I'd say like monitor
• 36:50
  whoever gets power, play on the Blues after that.
• 36:52
  Like Fowler season? Maybe it might be tough, Fowler
• 36:54
  again. It might be Paraco.
• 36:55
  Like, I don't know what they're gonna do, but I.
• 36:57
  Never wrong, just early. It only took like 20 weeks into
• 37:02
  the season, but I got it. So that's I thought it was worth
• 37:08
  mentioning. But yeah, I wonder if they if
• 37:10
  they start trading pieces, maybe they do consolidate into one
• 37:12
  unit and that actually helps for fantasy.
• 37:14
  Yeah, that would be great. You just said it reminded me of
• 37:18
  this meme I saw. I don't know if you've been
• 37:20
  tracking this with the price of silver has like skyrocketed.
• 37:23
  It's just been going crazy over the past few months.
• 37:25
  So it was like me and the Bros who bought silver in the 1980s
• 37:29
  and it was just like a bunch of like, like old dudes dancing.
• 37:33
  Like this is sort of like EDM song.
• 37:36
  Are you calling Cam folder really old?
• 37:39
  No, I'm calling me after waiting 20 weeks.
• 37:42
  OK, the rewards. I've been holding this long.
• 37:47
  Finally. Oh my God, you're dumping
• 37:52
  holding down. Follow the whole season, just
• 37:54
  stuff. Yeah, but I, I, I dropped them.
• 37:56
  I dropped them after a few weeks.
• 37:58
  But he didn't pick up a Dvorsky for one, Fab.
• 38:02
  So listen, we have to leave our biases out there so everybody
• 38:06
  knows. Speaking of biases, Josh Norris
• 38:10
  is coming back. From the bias here.
• 38:15
  Josh Norris or as Kevin likes to call him better than McDavid is
• 38:19
  coming back from injury. He seems to be slotting in line
• 38:21
  3 power play one, although I consider that more of a line 2
• 38:24
  because I think Josh Stone seems to be on that one as well and
• 38:28
  Norris should be bumping Jack Quinn off of power play 1.
• 38:30
  So we kind of spoke about this on the on the waiver episode,
• 38:34
  but a lot like Quinn was really killing it going into the break,
• 38:37
  but a lot less interested in him without that power play one
• 38:39
  spot. Josh Norris, obviously we know
• 38:41
  his ceiling is he can be a point per game player.
• 38:43
  Doesn't seem like the hits are part of his game here but like
• 38:46
  point per game, two shots like 7 face off wins .3 power play
• 38:50
  points and like that. Like that's definitely a
• 38:53
  possibility with him and if you have the chance to pick up a guy
• 38:55
  like that then it's a great shot to take.
• 38:58
  Yeah, I'm surprised like this. As of this morning, they were
• 39:01
  recording this in the evening, but this morning they were doing
• 39:03
  the practice lines and Josh Done lost his line of 1 and got line
• 39:07
  three with Josh Norris. So it kind of feels like trying
• 39:10
  to run 3 depth lines like Tage and Tuck, McLeod and Zucker and
• 39:15
  then Norris and Done. I don't think that sticks, but
• 39:18
  we'll see. It will have to monitor the ice
• 39:21
  lines to know which one is the actual line 2.
• 39:23
  But Peyton Krebs getting line 1 is you put him on the watch list
• 39:26
  and you just see if anything happens.
• 39:28
  But the PowerPoint 1 is exactly what we thought.
• 39:30
  It's Norris, it's Tuck, Tuck, it's Norris, it's done, it's
• 39:34
  Tage, it's Zucker and then Doline, obviously.
• 39:38
  So exactly nothing. Nothing new to mention there.
• 39:41
  Yeah, All right. Speaking of Buffalo, UPL in 6K
• 39:46
  is coming back from injury. Yeah, OK, 6K Yeah.
• 39:52
  So I mean, this is gonna be an interesting one because somehow
• 39:55
  it's weak 18.5 and Buffalo is a fantasy relevant team and is a
• 40:01
  good team. Is that too crazy to say that
• 40:04
  they're a good team? I don't wanna go to, don't wanna
• 40:07
  get killed by Kevin, who's not a nonbeliever.
• 40:09
  I don't think making the playoffs, but they're good.
• 40:11
  Florida there gets. Wish the Florida Panthers, Wish
• 40:13
  they were the Buffalo Sabers. Yeah, exactly.
• 40:17
  So because they're actually a good team this year, it's
• 40:20
  actually relevant who's gonna be their starting goalie?
• 40:22
  Most likely. It seems like it's probably
• 40:24
  gonna be a tandem. I'm just, I don't know if I
• 40:27
  made-up this idea that as you get close to the playoffs, you
• 40:29
  have to kind of pick a goalie and go with him.
• 40:31
  Like I should pay attention this year to see if that's the things
• 40:34
  that in future years, I know whether like I made that up in
• 40:36
  my head or if that's a real thing.
• 40:38
  But like, logically, logically, you'd think that you have to
• 40:42
  start going with a goalie, right?
• 40:43
  Who's gonna be your goalie in the playoffs?
• 40:45
  But maybe they're just like happy to keep, maybe they know
• 40:48
  in their minds like they're going with one, but we'll still
• 40:50
  keep him rested and go tandem until then.
• 40:51
  So maybe that's not a thing. Yeah, most likely expect a 5050
• 40:55
  rest of the season. I don't know what you guys
• 40:56
  think. I know everybody loves Lion.
• 40:59
  I, I low key I feel like I'm the only PPL believer out here, like
• 41:03
  everybody's just ready to crown Lion as the next league winner.
• 41:06
  Some would say. But no, I think line is a
• 41:09
  phenomenal goalie. I just think PPL has actually
• 41:12
  more value than people think. I do think it's a tandem.
• 41:15
  I don't really care if one's the one air 1B.
• 41:17
  I feel like it's just they're both gonna end up getting
• 41:19
  starts. It'll be close to 5050 split.
• 41:21
  And I think we're just gonna keep doing that because it was
• 41:23
  successful. And then maybe they have the
• 41:25
  opportunity to trade one, or maybe they have the opportunity
• 41:27
  to just find out who can keep consistent, you know, quality.
• 41:31
  And then going into the playoffs, if they do make the
• 41:33
  playoffs, they can just be like, hey, like, no, down the stretch,
• 41:36
  you just were way better. You're a guy going into this.
• 41:39
  Yeah, I. Yeah, I'd rather Lion, but I I
• 41:43
  like, I get it. And I still think it's gonna be
• 41:45
  a tandem pretty much until the end.
• 41:47
  I just think that Lions proven himself to be a bit better over
• 41:51
  the course of the year, so that's why I'm on Team Lion.
• 41:54
  But like, yeah. I also think it'll be like like
• 41:57
  you mentioned Kevin, like it would be super interesting to
• 41:59
  see what's going to happen at the actual trade deadline in
• 42:02
  like a week and a half. Because they made a comment
• 42:05
  pretty like when the new GM came in, he made a comment saying
• 42:08
  like this three goal, even though it's really a goalie
• 42:11
  situation, but he said like three goals situation is not
• 42:13
  going to last, right? And it's kind of lasted so far,
• 42:15
  but like there's definitely teams that want a good goalie
• 42:18
  and Buffalo definitely has a good goalie to spare.
• 42:21
  And if they can use that to kind of bolster a different part of
• 42:24
  their roster, like offence or definitely not defence, Yeah,
• 42:27
  they can use it to get to get a good offence, then I think they
• 42:31
  should and and would do it. So I have Lion and first of all,
• 42:36
  I'm happy. Like, you know, if he's doing
• 42:37
  that same quality that he was doing before the before the
• 42:40
  break, I'm happy to keep him for 50% of the starts.
• 42:43
  But then I'll definitely at least wait and see what happens
• 42:45
  at the trade deadline because if he becomes like a full time
• 42:47
  starter or same with you. Well, if line is the one who
• 42:49
  gets traded and applies starter, I think that's a very, very
• 42:51
  valuable pickup. Yeah, absolutely.
• 42:55
  Alright, Logan Cooley of the Utah is coming back healthy this
• 43:00
  week. That is a name we haven't heard
• 43:02
  in a while because Kevin treated him away and then he immediately
• 43:04
  got injured. But.
• 43:06
  Like a few weeks. Later these slotting in line 2
• 43:10
  power play 2. So look, I mean, he definitely
• 43:13
  has a very strong shot of going back to power play one.
• 43:16
  We mentioned in our previous episode, Utah has the second
• 43:19
  worst power play in the entire league.
• 43:20
  So if they keep struggling, they're going to put Logan
• 43:23
  Cooley on there to see if it sparks anything.
• 43:25
  But we've seen him be powerfully to in the past.
• 43:27
  So he's not a lock on power play one.
• 43:29
  Obviously line 2. He's playing with Guenther and
• 43:34
  the GOAT of all time, Jack McBain.
• 43:39
  So I'm I'm pretty excited to see what that line could do.
• 43:41
  I mean, McCain and Guenther were kind of killing it together.
• 43:43
  So you throw in Logan Cooley and I mean, they're gonna be
• 43:45
  unstoppable. What do you what do you guys see
• 43:48
  view coolly like value wise rest of the season ignoring the best
• 43:51
  finals week? Firstly, the Jack Mcbean line is
• 43:54
  pretty sick. You mean that goes on?
• 44:02
  I think I think cool. He's definitely going to get
• 44:04
  power play one in like two or three games.
• 44:06
  Hayton is not a lock there at all.
• 44:09
  And even though their percentages haven't been great,
• 44:12
  they're one of the bombs in the league.
• 44:14
  You said this is like this power play is good personnel for sure.
• 44:19
  And Cooley should be the best offensive player on this team.
• 44:23
  Like I I know that's pretty crazy to say because they got
• 44:25
  Keller and Hunter there, but he's really a good player.
• 44:29
  He's still very young and he was having a great season like up
• 44:32
  until the injury. So I think that, I mean, this is
• 44:35
  huge for, for pretty much like I, I mean, I know the finals
• 44:39
  week sucks the week 23, but other than that, if you own
• 44:44
  Cooley, I don't want to trade him away on the news that he's
• 44:47
  coming back necessarily. And I would consider buying if
• 44:51
  you don't have to pay too much, like Brad Marshall for Cooley.
• 44:54
  Hmm, I think you can get more for Brad Marshall.
• 44:57
  I think people are more interested in buying Cooley than
• 45:00
  selling Cooley right now. I think if you're selling cool,
• 45:02
  you're selling at like a pretty low value.
• 45:04
  I don't think he has a high draft draft stock right now.
• 45:07
  And I will say that we touched on him in the last episode too,
• 45:10
  like the news episode that, you know, this second line is way
• 45:12
  better than we anticipated. We thought maybe he would
• 45:14
  replace small, but he's getting exposure with McCain and
• 45:16
  Gunther. So that's pretty good for all of
• 45:18
  those guys. And do we believe Barrett Hayton
• 45:22
  is going to keep PP one over a lot of these other guys like
• 45:25
  they they kind of like him there either line 3C and they scratch
• 45:29
  him sometimes, but then they put him on power play one.
• 45:31
  It's honestly very confusing so I'm I'm monitoring the situation
• 45:35
  but would rather Robert Thomas or or Logan Cooley rest of the
• 45:38
  season. Particularly.
• 45:40
  Hmm, OK. Yeah, I think like Thomas has is
• 45:44
  more secure at power play one than Cooley, but like I don't.
• 45:47
  And even though you technically Saint Louis power play has been
• 45:49
  better than than Utahs, I'd still much rather a guy who has
• 45:52
  a shot at being on Utah's probably 1 than a guy who's
• 45:55
  guaranteed St. Louis's power play 1.
• 45:57
  What about Dylan Cousins? Now I take Cousins over coolly.
• 46:00
  OK. Look, this is Cooley's third
• 46:03
  year in the NHL, and last year he got 65 points in 75 games.
• 46:08
  This year was 20. 3 and 29 he last year Keller had a really
• 46:13
  exceptional season, but I think rest of season, if fully healthy
• 46:16
  coolly could be a point per game plus and that would be really
• 46:21
  good. Pointing plus end of season
• 46:23
  would be pretty sick. Like honestly, like I think it's
• 46:25
  in the range of outcomes. Like I was high on Logan Cooley.
• 46:27
  I drafted him. Like, you know, I think higher
• 46:29
  than people thought. I got a good value on him.
• 46:31
  I was able to flip him because he had like 10 points in two
• 46:34
  games and I was like, I need to capitalize on this.
• 46:37
  But I really believe in Logan Cooley.
• 46:39
  I think he's a phenomenal talent and his Utah team has so much
• 46:41
  talent. So expecting good things.
• 46:44
  Yeah, alright, last one we've got Luke Hughes of the New
• 46:47
  Jersey Devils should be returning sometime this week.
• 46:51
  And is he? A lot of people are asking, uh,
• 46:54
  Dougie Hamilton owners are clamoring to know, is Dougie in
• 46:59
  danger of losing power play 1 to Luke Hughes.
• 47:02
  Now, obviously there's always the danger, but like, do we
• 47:04
  genuinely think that that's going to happen?
• 47:07
  I'm biased so I'll let you guys answer.
• 47:09
  I, I just answered this question like right before we started
• 47:12
  recording in the Discord. I don't know if you saw my
• 47:14
  response, Josh, but my, my take was Luke Hughes is eligible to
• 47:18
  return February 28th. So that's like two or three
• 47:21
  games away and we don't even know for sure if he's going to
• 47:24
  come back on that day, but he's skating in the practice
• 47:27
  facility. So we're monitoring the
• 47:28
  situation now. To me, like they were just so
• 47:31
  hot going into the Olympic break in terms of like being able to
• 47:33
  score because that was a problem for a long time and Dougie was
• 47:37
  on a street. So to me it's just like, why
• 47:39
  would you play with things when it's working and it hasn't been
• 47:43
  working for so long. So to me, it's Doug's job to
• 47:45
  lose. And maybe they run both of them
• 47:48
  on the power play one. Like that's honestly an option
• 47:50
  for them. But to me, I think it's just I'm
• 47:52
  running with Dougie. And if Luke uses on your waiver
• 47:55
  wire, like I'm happy missing out on the Luke cues.
• 47:57
  If I have Dougie and you know, if somebody else picks him up,
• 48:00
  then it is what it is. But I'm rolling with Dougie.
• 48:04
  Yeah, I mean, I feel like the only way that Hughes gets power
• 48:07
  play 1 is if they managed to get Duggy to agree to be traded
• 48:12
  somewhere. Yes, cause like that, like he's
• 48:14
  just there's no reason to have him on your team if he's not
• 48:17
  power play 1. And they've been taught that
• 48:18
  lesson this year, right? Like he was up 0 points in like
• 48:21
  30 games and then Hughes gets injured.
• 48:23
  They put on probably 1 then he puts up like game points and
• 48:25
  like 11 games straight. So Jose, do it.
• 48:28
  Come on, please. Don't you ever in the mood,
• 48:31
  Claws? Oh my God, that would be
• 48:32
  amazing. But yeah, so I don't, I don't
• 48:34
  think I'm not interested in picking up Hughes as long as
• 48:38
  Hamilton is still on the New Jersey Devils.
• 48:40
  Yeah, I agreed. All right, Kevin, what do you
• 48:44
  have for us on your would you rathers?
• 48:46
  It's been a while. I feel like I'm a little rusty,
• 48:48
  but yeah, I, I tried to pick guys that are similar in value
• 48:53
  that could be relevant come your trade deadlines and guys you're
• 48:56
  trying to move away on playoff schedules or acquire via playoff
• 48:59
  schedule. So hopefully we got some
• 49:01
  relevant names going and a variety of of, you know, levels
• 49:06
  of talent. So let's start off hot.
• 49:09
  This is a this is a playoff schedule question, I think, but
• 49:12
  we're always assuming, as always, banger leagues, no face
• 49:15
  off wins. Now if face off wins come into
• 49:17
  the picture after as if I'm in this, whatever.
• 49:19
  But that's the assumption I'm going into and as always.
• 49:23
  Weeks 21 to 23 playoffs, usually.
• 49:25
  Yeah, always kind of like planning for that in my mind.
• 49:28
  But if there's any differences, you guys can make your call.
• 49:31
  And we're going 5 positions, left wing, right wing,
• 49:33
  defenseman, centre goalie, all the good stuff, one of each.
• 49:36
  Let's get into it. Would you guys rather Alex
• 49:40
  Debrincat or Philip Forsberg rest of season?
• 49:43
  Wow, this national team not the best playoff schedule.
• 49:47
  We're we're hearing talks already there.
• 49:49
  They might be trading their pieces.
• 49:51
  Philip Forsberg averaged 7 minutes a night on the Swedish
• 49:53
  team. I don't know what happened
• 49:54
  there. I mean, I think the Swedish
• 49:58
  coast Swedish coach is just a moron, honestly.
• 50:01
  Like, I think he's like, he's the Jim Hiller of Olympic
• 50:03
  coaches, but. They almost beat the US.
• 50:09
  They did. Maybe if they had played their
• 50:12
  guys, you know, properly. You never know.
• 50:15
  This is so I'm. Yeah.
• 50:17
  Yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to bring it here.
• 50:21
  I I have Forsberg, so it's kind of painful to say.
• 50:25
  Really, though, the only, the only thing that Forsberg has on
• 50:30
  to bring it is the hits. It's also a worse playoff
• 50:33
  schedule. But to bring it's got better
• 50:35
  shots, points, basically dead even have power play points, but
• 50:38
  .01 better. So OK.
• 50:40
  And I mean, Forsberg's got a little bit better Pimms.
• 50:43
  Other than that, yeah, this is, to me, it's it's clearly to
• 50:47
  bring it. And there's enough of a sample
• 50:48
  size this season. I also think Detroit is much
• 50:51
  better than Nashville rest this season, better playoff schedule.
• 50:54
  And to bring it's like a lock to be one of the top offensive
• 50:57
  players on that team. So this is strictly numbers as
• 51:00
  opposed to vibes. And yeah, I think at this point
• 51:03
  you just gotta give it to bring it.
• 51:06
  Yeah, I I think I gotta agree on the brain kit here, which is
• 51:08
  kind of crazy because if I was going vibe, it would obviously
• 51:11
  be Forsberg, but but you gotta look.
• 51:13
  At the pic and a lot of. You know, yeah, but you gotta
• 51:16
  go. Yeah, I know.
• 51:19
  I can tell you one person who will not be drafting Forsberg
• 51:22
  next year. Maybe do this trade?
• 51:25
  But but yeah, no, I gotta get to bring it.
• 51:27
  Like he said, pretty much all the numbers other than hits
• 51:29
  favored to bring it. And then it's like you
• 51:31
  mentioned, Kevin, that like National probably is going to be
• 51:34
  trading away some number of players.
• 51:36
  I don't know how many, but they're going to be trading away
• 51:38
  some of their top assets for sure if they can find buyers.
• 51:41
  Meanwhile, Detroit, I think, has been in on every big name so
• 51:44
  far. So like they're clearly looking
• 51:45
  to acquire someone you know someone good tell them with
• 51:49
  their playoff push so and to bring it to not his like
• 51:52
  deployments not at risk with any anyone they acquire.
• 51:55
  He'll only get better. So he's already been better and
• 51:58
  his team is both going up versus Nashville boat going down.
• 52:01
  So I think I got to go to bring it.
• 52:03
  Are you worried at all with America being like a line 2 guy
• 52:05
  or no? I mean like they even strength,
• 52:08
  like really what makes these guys so valuable is that Detroit
• 52:11
  has one of the best power plays in the league and he's a lock on
• 52:13
  power play 1 and I'll see that line too.
• 52:15
  Like that's what kind of what I mean.
• 52:16
  I think they can acquire line 2 centre and if you're planning to
• 52:19
  bring it Kane and an actual good centre at on your line 2, that's
• 52:24
  pretty much like as good as the line one on a lot of teams.
• 52:27
  Alright, going I'm also. Going to also, yeah, just gonna
• 52:32
  say there's a while, yeah. Yeah, while he's on line 4 like
• 52:37
  the Swedish coach wants him to be.
• 52:39
  So did not split the difference there, but I think it was worth
• 52:41
  the conversation, yeah. The name surprised me.
• 52:45
  All right, looking at the right wings, if you will, this is this
• 52:50
  is this is a spicy one, I think. But we're looking at obviously
• 52:55
  bangers leagues, no face off wins.
• 52:57
  Would you rather rest of season JT Miller or Matt Baldy?
• 53:03
  Wow, Weeks 21 to 23 playoff schedule.
• 53:05
  So you're getting that 444 for the Rangers with the off nights.
• 53:09
  Nobody on the Minnesota Wild, who have one of the worst
• 53:11
  playoff schedules. Yeah, and you also tossed in the
• 53:15
  fact that we're not counting faceoff wins, which is one of
• 53:17
  the J's biggest assets. Yeah.
• 53:21
  Bangers league though. I believe this one is gonna
• 53:25
  split the difference, I think, but I'm going to go Miller here
• 53:32
  because the Charlottes have been fantastic.
• 53:35
  The face offs are even without the face off.
• 53:38
  Sorry, like like the the playoff schedule is great and I think
• 53:42
  with the advantage there like he can outpace boldly when it comes
• 53:46
  to weeks 21 to 23. Olympic gold medalist JT Miller.
• 53:51
  Yeah. Yeah, and JT Miller had zero
• 53:54
  points the whole tournament, so. Just yeah.
• 53:56
  But that's not what he was there for.
• 53:58
  They also let in zero goals on the penalty.
• 53:59
  On the penalty. He was one of the best penalty
• 54:01
  killers on the ice. I mean, I'm trying to like think
• 54:04
  of like the math, right, of like a three-game week of Baldy
• 54:07
  versus A4 game week of Miller because obviously if it was the
• 54:09
  same playoff schedule, I'm going boldy every day of the week.
• 54:12
  I think so we would all agree on that.
• 54:13
  So it's thinking about that. So like let's do the math.
• 54:15
  Let's say like Miller, we think points wise, I know he's gonna
• 54:20
  be like .9. I think that's a fair like, you
• 54:22
  know, you're being like, you know, conservative like, but I
• 54:24
  feel that's a safe assumption. And then boldly let's give him
• 54:26
  like 1.1. So if you do like 9 * 4, that's
• 54:30
  like a 3.6 points over the course of that week versus 1.1
• 54:33
  like a 3.3. So Miller's getting more even if
• 54:36
  you're giving body an extra .2. And then like power play there,
• 54:41
  I'd probably say body gets more even with the one fewer game.
• 54:44
  Just having the power difference, especially with
• 54:45
  Paragon is going to be pretty huge.
• 54:47
  So let's say like Miller gets one more point and that in each
• 54:51
  of those weeks, Body gets one more power play point shots are
• 54:54
  going to go to Boldy. I mean, you're looking at like
• 54:57
  one extra, like let's say like three shots versus 2 just to
• 54:59
  make round numbers. So that's 9 versus 8.
• 55:01
  So Body gets one more shot and then but Miller gets like two
• 55:04
  more hits than Boldy. So that's kind of where my
• 55:07
  mind's at. Which one do I rather have?
• 55:10
  I like, I like the breakdown. And also to add to your point,
• 55:13
  yeah, it's the one extra game for JT, but it's not including
• 55:15
  the extra games able to fit into your lineup on the off nights
• 55:17
  too. It might mean like two or three
• 55:19
  extra games over the course of the week because you can have
• 55:21
  those off night players. Yeah.
• 55:22
  And also I feel like there's an advantage that the guy with more
• 55:25
  games because you never know what one game can happen.
• 55:28
  So you're giving yourself an extra chance at getting points.
• 55:30
  Yeah, so all that tied together, like I wanna say boldly because
• 55:35
  I think he's such a better player, but I feel like with the
• 55:37
  playoff schedule, you gotta go Miller.
• 55:39
  Wow, I really thought the. Difference.
• 55:41
  Honestly, I talked myself into it.
• 55:43
  Like once I was doing the math I like I was, I was gonna say body
• 55:45
  100%, but I started doing it out loud and like I have to say
• 55:48
  Miller, even though I don't want to.
• 55:49
  Yeah, I think it's really close and honestly like body could
• 55:52
  have like 2 games where he gets three points each and then we're
• 55:55
  you're you're sad you made this trade.
• 55:56
  But I feel like the others such in the favor of JT in terms of
• 55:59
  like the additions you'd be doing for your team, especially
• 56:02
  in the Bangers Cats league. I'm JT.
• 56:04
  So as listen, that's the difference here.
• 56:06
  But I think some good conversations were had.
• 56:09
  Yeah, for sure. I mean like I I really want to
• 56:12
  say boldy. I really wanted to say Boldy.
• 56:15
  I don't think this is going to split the difference either, but
• 56:18
  listen, maybe I'm lucky. Would you guys rather rest of
• 56:22
  season Dougie Hamilton or Roman Yoshi?
• 56:28
  I I mean I could go first. Again.
• 56:30
  Yeah, I can go. Yeah, go.
• 56:33
  I'm going. Yoshi.
• 56:34
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I shot 21.
• 56:39
  This one is like because of Luke Hughes returning.
• 56:45
  I feel like it makes it a clear Yosi without it is worth a
• 56:48
  conversation despite. I mean you can't look at the
• 56:50
  season averages because Dougie was dog awful.
• 56:56
  Dog awful even like does justice to how bad you.
• 56:59
  Yeah, that's that's too me. Hot dog, water dogs.
• 57:02
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
• 57:05
  So honestly, I think Dougie could I really am not overly
• 57:11
  scared about the Luke Hughes elements of it, but there still
• 57:13
  is that chance. So that makes it like a that's
• 57:15
  the cherry on top. But even without it, I think
• 57:17
  OC's just, yeah, like he's just. But are you not worried about
• 57:21
  natural selling players? So less offence to be generated
• 57:25
  and then you'll see, you see, like really he's candidate
• 57:27
  number one to be just like held out of the teams not winning and
• 57:29
  has nothing to play for. Yeah.
• 57:31
  So I'm not gonna hold him out unless he gets injured, but
• 57:33
  like, yes. He could always justify injury.
• 57:35
  Like, I feel like he's always injured, you know?
• 57:37
  Yeah, I don't know, I'm just like even if they sell players,
• 57:41
  like there's gonna have some other guys pop in like I
• 57:44
  honestly, I know they were like really hot for a while this
• 57:48
  season and you know, like it's guys like, you know, Stamkos
• 57:51
  O'Reilly who are really overperforming.
• 57:53
  And if they get traded, like I see why, you know, logically
• 57:57
  they should get worse and you'll see should get worse by already
• 58:01
  kind of viewed them as overperforming.
• 58:03
  So I feel like anyone who replaces them will just perform
• 58:05
  kind of how I expect. And Yoshi's already been
• 58:07
  overperforming so hard. So even if you like drops a
• 58:10
  bunch, he'll still be doing better than Dougie.
• 58:13
  Yeah, OK, Now listen, I can't always be perfect.
• 58:20
  Are you? Honestly, my heart wants to go
• 58:22
  Duggy. I'm I don't know why I'm so I'm
• 58:24
  so into Dougie, but I just think.
• 58:26
  You know who has him? He's willing to trade him
• 58:28
  because I keep thinking about New Jersey bouncing back after
• 58:31
  the Olympic break and being like, there's no way Brad can be
• 58:33
  this bad. There's no way this team like
• 58:35
  doesn't have any sauce in them. And I just think Yoshi, in my
• 58:38
  mind, he's like the guy that's gonna be missing games between
• 58:42
  now and end of season. And if Nashville punting, I can
• 58:45
  just be them being like, oh, his whatever lingering injury that
• 58:50
  he's always dealing with is flaring up and let's just hold
• 58:53
  him out and then, yeah, I don't wanna be stuck holding the bag.
• 58:56
  But the value until then is much better.
• 59:00
  I don't know. It's tough.
• 59:01
  Yeah. I'm going.
• 59:02
  I'm going, Doug. Two days and you know, I have
• 59:06
  Dougie. I'm super happy to make a trade
• 59:08
  with you. You know, I know, I know you
• 59:10
  need it for your breath stack. So, you know, hit me up
• 59:15
  honestly, He already said he's done trading with me this year,
• 59:17
  but Kevin and I haven't traded yet, so.
• 59:19
  Maybe we can work something out, but I'm not, I'm not trading
• 59:21
  about the value that I think Dougie has.
• 59:24
  Send me, send me an offer and I'll see what I have.
• 59:27
  And I think you. Know alright we'll talk after
• 59:28
  the pod going goalies now this is these are big boys, but would
• 59:34
  you rather rest of season Jake Ottinger or Mackenzie Blackwood?
• 59:38
  Wow. OK, you weren't joking.
• 59:40
  Those are. Big.
• 59:41
  These are big, big boys. I mean I.
• 59:45
  To me it's obvious, but I feel like it's not obvious for most
• 59:48
  so. I think I got to go back to my
• 59:52
  to the the playoff primer and see who I had as the as a better
• 59:55
  schedule. Yeah, that's actually that's a
• 59:59
  good move in general. Yeah, my first instinct block
• 1:00:03
  would just to say. But I want to see if.
• 1:00:06
  Josh, I had, I had Colorado as the number one best goalie team
• 1:00:11
  going into the playoffs. And then Dallas was like #6 so
• 1:00:16
  they both have very good schedules numbers.
• 1:00:18
  So yeah. So yeah, just to throw that out
• 1:00:22
  there, you could go ahead. But you?
• 1:00:23
  Are you more worried about Scott Wedgewood or Casey Desmith
• 1:00:27
  taking starts? Like honestly crazy.
• 1:00:32
  Would. Yeah, yeah, I'm going with the
• 1:00:36
  for that reason, I'm going odd injury.
• 1:00:38
  OK, the difference has been split, I think.
• 1:00:41
  I think Blackwood has not played enough this year that they're
• 1:00:45
  going to need to give him, you know, like a decent majority of
• 1:00:49
  the stars on what should be an amazing Colorado team.
• 1:00:52
  And even if Aldinger gets a little bit more volume, I'd
• 1:00:56
  expect the rate stats and the quality of Blackwood starts to
• 1:00:59
  be better as the season. I think it's like super, super
• 1:01:03
  close. Obviously these are two of the
• 1:01:04
  top 4 goalies in the league rest of the season and it's like I
• 1:01:09
  said, both Colorado, Dallas have great playoff schedules and look
• 1:01:13
  just who's more likely to lose starts.
• 1:01:15
  It's gotta be Blackwood, right? We saw which would be a full
• 1:01:17
  starter and then, you know, take a lot of starts out the season.
• 1:01:20
  Do I think it's likely to happen?
• 1:01:22
  No, but like also who's more, who's squishier?
• 1:01:24
  Blackwood, You know, like you gotta think about these really
• 1:01:26
  like fringe cases. I think when you have two guys
• 1:01:28
  who are this close. So who am I more like?
• 1:01:30
  I think like Blackwood ceiling is higher because I think
• 1:01:32
  Colorado ceiling is higher, but I think it's close enough that
• 1:01:35
  I'd feel safer having Ottinger. I'm going Blackwood.
• 1:01:39
  To me, it was the playoff schedule I thought was elite.
• 1:01:42
  I think we see him already pulling away with more stars.
• 1:01:45
  But obviously I completely agree with you guys that which what I
• 1:01:48
  think is the more threat to take away starts than Blackwood.
• 1:01:51
  And maybe they just want to go to a split nearing the end of
• 1:01:54
  the playoffs because rest the guys, blah, blah.
• 1:01:57
  Arranger has no competition. But I do think arranger has
• 1:02:00
  some, you know, some volatility to his performances.
• 1:02:04
  I will say like he's known to be kind of like an up and down type
• 1:02:06
  of goalie, didn't play at all the Olympics.
• 1:02:09
  Last week or Antonin, That's something.
• 1:02:11
  Also lost Miko Rantanen too and Dallas went through.
• 1:02:15
  Sorry, wait until they put Sam Steele there.
• 1:02:19
  But I, I think there's, there's question marks on both sides.
• 1:02:23
  And I'm just picking the guy that on the better team that I
• 1:02:27
  believe is the better team and that right now is getting still
• 1:02:31
  a good amount of starts plus the playoff schedule we're talking
• 1:02:33
  about. Not only do they have good
• 1:02:35
  games, but they have good strength of schedule.
• 1:02:36
  So, yeah, and off nights also, I mean, that's not as important
• 1:02:40
  for goalies, but yeah. But yes, but the difference,
• 1:02:43
  let's go. Alright, that last one, we're
• 1:02:46
  talking centres. I like keeping tennis for the
• 1:02:47
  last centres, my favorite position.
• 1:02:49
  Sound like that's goalie. But #2 centres.
• 1:02:54
  Yeah. We're talking would you rather
• 1:02:59
  Dylan Larkin or Mark Scheifele rest of season.
• 1:03:04
  So when things got that bad playoff schedule, yeah, I mean,
• 1:03:10
  it's got a better playoff schedule, but I think she's
• 1:03:12
  pretty strong this season. Vibes like just instinctively,
• 1:03:16
  like I, I'm thinking Larkin cuz I know the playoff schedule, but
• 1:03:21
  one, Shipley's actually had an insane year and two, I feel like
• 1:03:27
  there is a chance that Winnipeg's really gonna make,
• 1:03:30
  try to make a push, especially after what just happened.
• 1:03:33
  Like hello books, crazy performance and shamefully not
• 1:03:37
  going to the Olympics and then the losing.
• 1:03:40
  Like I, I just, I feel like there's a lot going for that.
• 1:03:44
  So, so my vibes answer is not what I'm going to go with.
• 1:03:48
  I'm gonna go safely. That's like exactly what I was
• 1:03:52
  thinking. Like my instinct right away was
• 1:03:54
  like, obviously Larkin, you know, like, and then I look at
• 1:03:57
  the numbers and I'm like, wow, Shipley has like .3 more points
• 1:04:01
  per game than Larkin on the season.
• 1:04:02
  And I was like, Detroit has one of the best power plays in the
• 1:04:05
  league. So I'm sure Larkin has the edge
• 1:04:06
  there. But no, Shipley has like the
• 1:04:07
  slight edge is pretty much even. And then, yeah, there's that
• 1:04:10
  whole, you know, type of like halibut coming back.
• 1:04:12
  And maybe they, you know, the fact is West is pretty open,
• 1:04:16
  right? Like Winnipeg's been garbage all
• 1:04:18
  year and they still, they still have a shot for playoffs.
• 1:04:20
  So like I could see them going on some sort of run.
• 1:04:23
  There is always that thing I mentioned with Detroit where I
• 1:04:25
  think they're looking to acquire another strong forward which
• 1:04:28
  would help Larkin. But I think what the numbers are
• 1:04:31
  so far apart that I gotta go safely, even though I'd much
• 1:04:35
  rather go Larkin with them for the moves.
• 1:04:38
  I, I think I'm going, I think I'm going Larkin.
• 1:04:41
  I and I think it's because I think the playoff schedule is
• 1:04:43
  really influencing me because I think Larkin has a .9 with the
• 1:04:46
  potential to get up to go to one point per game.
• 1:04:50
  I think she's at 1.2 right now on the season.
• 1:04:52
  I think he's closer to like 1.1. So I think the gap there is like
• 1:04:57
  pretty, pretty small. It's like .2 or less in my
• 1:05:00
  opinion. And over the course of the
• 1:05:02
  schedule, I think I like Larkin shots and I also expect Larkin
• 1:05:06
  to have the edge and power play, even though they're not equal
• 1:05:09
  production right now. So that's kind of my analysis on
• 1:05:12
  the situation. I also like Detroit as a better
• 1:05:14
  team. Playoff schedule, they have like
• 1:05:16
  the same amount of games. Detroit and and what a.
• 1:05:21
  Perfect. Both have 10 games in the
• 1:05:23
  playoffs. It's Week 21 to 23.
• 1:05:26
  Why was I under the impression that Winnipeg had nine games?
• 1:05:30
  I mean unless like my my files a bit off and I mixed it up.
• 1:05:35
  But I mean it's probably me but maybe looking at the wrong
• 1:05:38
  weeks. Honestly even with that though,
• 1:05:42
  like even if it's just a one game difference that's I I still
• 1:05:48
  think that chiefly can can make up for it points wise.
• 1:05:51
  Winnipeg does have 10, this is week 21 to 23 and Detroit does
• 1:05:55
  2. I guess it's more desirable
• 1:05:57
  theoretically, to have the four games in the Finals that Detroit
• 1:06:00
  has in Week 23. Has no off nights.
• 1:06:02
  Detroit has three off nights. Yeah, so definitely comes into
• 1:06:06
  play closer than I thought. Also the choice, the choice four
• 1:06:11
  week games in the finals, whereas shuffles in the
• 1:06:14
  quarterfinals. So if I had to pick, I'd refer
• 1:06:17
  to finals. Same, but I think even with that
• 1:06:21
  it's close enough. I'm still gonna go strictly
• 1:06:22
  like. I'm still I'm still going
• 1:06:24
  Larkin. I think the points is the the
• 1:06:26
  gap is not big enough to make to make up for the better
• 1:06:29
  PowerPoint. I know Detroit has and also the
• 1:06:31
  extra shot of game. So to me that's the the deal
• 1:06:35
  breaker plus the off night boost in the playoffs.
• 1:06:38
  But I think it's really close. I think if you have shit, you
• 1:06:40
  can trade them for Larkin. Plus, yeah, make it a 2 for two
• 1:06:43
  and you got 2/2 and. Batterson.
• 1:06:46
  I think it would be too much. That would be maybe you do like
• 1:06:48
  Larkin Batherson for Shafley plus, you know, Alex Tucker or
• 1:06:52
  something and then I would like to do that.
• 1:06:55
  Yeah. So you split the difference on
• 1:06:57
  Dougie versus Yoshi and Ottinger Blackwood?
• 1:07:02
  But I feel we agreed. We agreed on the OC one.
• 1:07:04
  Yeah, you guys are sorry. Sorry, it was just, it was just
• 1:07:08
  all anger. Blackwood.
• 1:07:09
  Yeah, unfortunately, yeah. No, that's OK.
• 1:07:12
  That's. OK, Yeah.
• 1:07:14
  That's honestly we're getting really close except the Yoshi 1
• 1:07:18
  I feel I felt like very confident in that and the other
• 1:07:20
  one it's like a like. Yeah, that's the one.
• 1:07:22
  You'll see what I knew was the most lopsided, but I had to
• 1:07:24
  throw. That feel like despite not like
• 1:07:26
  splitting their see me and Jackie, I feel like you split a
• 1:07:28
  lot of like myself, like what I wanted to say and what I had to
• 1:07:32
  say, like a lot of like you. Know eternal difference.
• 1:07:35
  That's with the internal difference on a lot of them.
• 1:07:38
  Yeah, yeah, it was. It was definitely tough.
• 1:07:40
  I think my favorite was JT Boldly because I feel like
• 1:07:42
  that's genuinely a trailer you could probably do, and it's like
• 1:07:45
  you're probably setting yourself up for better success, but it
• 1:07:47
  feels scary to do and those are the ones that end up probably
• 1:07:50
  paying off. Yeah.
• 1:07:52
  Absolutely. I do think JD has like a little
• 1:07:53
  bit of a let's shut them down type of vibe to him, so I'm
• 1:07:56
  taking that into account, but still.
• 1:07:59
  That's a sad note to end the episode.
• 1:08:04
  Well, anyway, hopefully. Yeah, I was gonna say let's
• 1:08:06
  let's cheer ourselves up by talking about how Josh didn't
• 1:08:09
  know that Stay Gold Pony boy was not from Step Brothers.
• 1:08:13
  It's it's first of all, OK. Jake didn't know what it was
• 1:08:16
  from at all. So.
• 1:08:18
  Did you guys not read the Outsiders and like high school?
• 1:08:21
  I've literally, OK, so even I are having or having lunch or
• 1:08:24
  whatever on Saturday and I don't know, we're just talking
• 1:08:27
  whatever and I just say Siegel and Pony boy and she's like, oh,
• 1:08:30
  I've never read the book. And I'm like, what book?
• 1:08:32
  I'm like, it's my stepbrothers. She's like.
• 1:08:35
  She's like step brothers. Like, yeah, of course.
• 1:08:38
  OK, brothers like you guys. Step Brothers New York Times
• 1:08:42
  best selling novel where we came from movie.
• 1:08:47
  Actually, yeah. And so she's like, obviously the
• 1:08:50
  outsiders and I'm like, what the heck is the outside?
• 1:08:51
  I've never heard that in my life, you know, and I read a
• 1:08:53
  lot, you know, So I was like, I was like shocked.
• 1:08:55
  There's a book that's like so anyway, so she's like everyone
• 1:08:57
  would teach from the outside. Like there's no way everyone
• 1:08:59
  would say from step brothers. So she like posted on her, on
• 1:09:02
  her story, on it on Insta and like took a poll, you know, and
• 1:09:05
  was like, what? Where is this quote from?
• 1:09:07
  And like that reminds 3030 people answered and. 30 people
• 1:09:10
  answered. 20 like Katie like 20 Somewhere between. 20 and 30
• 1:09:14
  people and people would answer. No, like a lot of people,
• 1:09:17
  there's a lot of fans. Every, every answer except for
• 1:09:20
  one of them was The Outsiders. And then one answer was you
• 1:09:25
  saying no one answer was someone saying Josh definitely thought
• 1:09:29
  it was Step Brothers and you were like, we're done.
• 1:09:35
  That's so funny. So yeah, I, I was, I was
• 1:09:38
  humbled. I didn't realize that this was
• 1:09:40
  so. Popular story reminds me of that
• 1:09:41
  episode of Brooklyn 99 where Jake is mad at Amy and he's he's
• 1:09:45
  like, you're like Yago. And then she's like, wow, I'm
• 1:09:47
  surprised you read Othello. He's like, wait what?
• 1:09:49
  No, I'm calling you the parrot from Aladdin.
• 1:09:55
  Exactly. I love look at my 9:00.
• 1:10:01
  Alright, this is definitely a better OK, thank you to
• 1:10:07
  everybody for listening to our Part 2 week 18 news updates and
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  give us five stars and leave a review.
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  I never read the reviews, but we had some.
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  I actually read them like last week.
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  I was like, man, people are living reviews.
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  I'm literally not seeing them. So shout out to those.
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  Who did so? Please leave a review.
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  No, I want to go and read them because we're so we're so into
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  like the Spotify statistics and whatever, but like, you know,
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  Apple. Let me rephrase, now that we
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  know people are leaving reviews, we are super happy to read them
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  and it will read all of them moving forward.
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  So please keep leaving. Blake from Apples and Genos was
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  like, hey, I love this podcast. And I was like, hey, let's go.
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  That's all I said. Nice.
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  Alright, Ernie, take it away. But about Bound Bang, your
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  management fantasy hockey podcast.
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  Whoa. Wow, what?