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55KRC Monday Show - Steve Goodin, Smitherman, Signal 99 · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 2: break on Gilbert at King. Chuck Ingram, 55KRC, the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: 540. 55 PRC. The talk station. Stacking stupid. This is
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  Speaker 1: particularly bizarre. Minnesota man who, he's a young guy, whether
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  Speaker 1: it matters or not, who enjoyed wearing diapers. His words.
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 1: And his words. Wanted to be given a binky. Charged
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  Speaker 1: with assaulting and strangling his girlfriend because he wanted her
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  Speaker 1: to put on a diaper. It's his fetish. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why he's making his girlfriend do it. Anyway, got
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  Speaker 1: him in trouble. Investigators filed a criminal complaint against Xander Holmberg,
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  Speaker 1: who's 18. Felony misdemeanor domestic assault offense is in connection
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  Speaker 1: with the strange mid-June attack in the victim's bedroom. Victim
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  Speaker 1: told police that Holmberg, quote, was interested in acting and
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  Speaker 1: being treated like a baby, close quote, threatened to force
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  Speaker 1: her to wear a diaper. She, quote, made it clear
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  Speaker 1: to Holmberg that she did not want to wear diapers
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  Speaker 1: slash pull-ups. That's in the probable cause statement. Police said
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  Speaker 1: the victim said Holmberg enjoyed wearing diapers slash pull-ups and
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be given a baby pacifier. Investigators allege Holmberg
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  Speaker 1: attacked the victim after the couple engaged in consensual sex
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  Speaker 1: in the woman's residence. And while in bed, Holmberg grabbed
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  Speaker 1: a pull-up and attempted to force the diaper on the
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  Speaker 1: victim while pinning her down. The arrest report says Holmberg
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  Speaker 1: grabbed and held the victim down by the throat and
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  Speaker 1: then covered her mouth and had her in a chokehold
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  Speaker 1: to keep her quiet. The woman claims she began having
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  Speaker 1: a panic attack during the incident and couldn't breathe when
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  Speaker 1: Holmberg was choking her. She told police that while Holmberg
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  Speaker 1: was doing this, she thought she was going to die.
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  Speaker 1: Victim one stated that it left bruises and injuries to
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  Speaker 1: her thigh, neck, and jaw. Photos were provided by the
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  Speaker 1: woman's mom. Holmberg charged with domestic assault by strangulation, felony
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  Speaker 1: carrying a maximum sentence of three years in prison, and
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  Speaker 1: misdemeanor domestic assault. And he's weird.
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  Speaker 4: Just walk away.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey middle school teacher has been accused of running
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  Speaker 1: a prostitution scam involving her allegedly pinning down a naked man.
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  Speaker 1: Her claim, she was strictly there to party. Unidentified man
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  Speaker 1: claims he met the township middle school computer teacher Amanda Crafts,
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  Speaker 1: who's 35, and Veta Engel, 23, at Caesars Atlantic City
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  Speaker 1: October 9th. This is from the New York Post anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Victim claims that Engel performed a sex act on him
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  Speaker 1: in the Women's Harrah's Hotel room. Phrasing. Crafts, Amanda Crafts,
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  Speaker 1: held him down and used his smartphone's face ID to
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  Speaker 1: open up Apple Pay to send four separate payments totaling $ 1, 250. Crafts'
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  Speaker 1: legal team denied her involvement in pinning the man down
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  Speaker 1: and rejected the claim that she knew Engel was a prostitute. Crafts'
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  Speaker 1: attorney told the New York Post, Amanda Crafts is highly
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  Speaker 1: intelligent and wouldn't participate in anything like that. She was
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  Speaker 1: in the room and wanted to leave and didn't even
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  Speaker 1: realize it was a prostitution thing. She's mortified. Since her
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  Speaker 1: October 9th arrest and release, Craft's now out of a job.
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  Speaker 1: Middle Township Middle School announced in a letter October 19th
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  Speaker 1: to parents and fellow staffers that she was no longer
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  Speaker 1: employed by the district, facing two charges connected with the
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  Speaker 1: alleged prostitution scam. Could have been worse, Joe. It could
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  Speaker 1: have been a student. You're right. Good point. Joe, always
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  Speaker 1: looking for the optimism there. You're... Joe Stryker, eternal optimist.
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  Speaker 1: Laughed everyone. Who knows Joe? Manchester, New Hampshire, a driver
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  Speaker 1: arrested after police said they found a driver of a
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  Speaker 1: semi-tractor trailer, I might note. They found 170 beer bottles
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  Speaker 1: in the cab of his tractor-trailer. Police responded to reports
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  Speaker 1: of that truck blocking school buses. Officers say Edgar Ramirez,
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  Speaker 1: 33 years old, refused to get out of the truck.
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  Speaker 1: They removed him. Ramirez allegedly seen driving from a truck
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  Speaker 1: stop while he was drunk hours earlier. He's been charged
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  Speaker 1: with driving while intoxicated and resisting arrest. 170. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: say over what period of time the beer bottle was
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  Speaker 1: accumulated to that level. I'm sure he wasn't really a
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  Speaker 1: very cleanly guy. All right, let's go to North Charleston,
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  Speaker 1: South Carolina, where a woman is facing charges after police
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  Speaker 1: said she drove a school bus impaired and led police
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  Speaker 1: on a chase with her child in the vehicle.
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 1: It gets worse. Shakira Jones, 23, charged with failure to
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  Speaker 1: stop for the, well, police officers, blue lights and sirens blaring,
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  Speaker 1: driving on the influence and child endangerments. Police say that
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  Speaker 1: they received an alert at 20 minutes after 3 in
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  Speaker 1: the afternoon Thursday about a school bus driving erratically. Reports
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  Speaker 1: stated the bus nearly hit another vehicle and that there
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  Speaker 1: were suspicions about the driver's sobriety. Officers found the bus
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  Speaker 1: and said they saw it traveling about 65 miles an
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  Speaker 1: hour in a 45, watched it make an improper turn,
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  Speaker 1: followed by multiple improper and erratic lane changes. Police tried
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  Speaker 1: to initiate a traffic stop, but the bus did not stop,
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  Speaker 1: kept on going. It led officers on a chase, continued
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  Speaker 1: driving erratically. Eventually, the driver sped into a parking lot
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  Speaker 1: where school staff were present. Staff members had to get
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  Speaker 1: out of the way to avoid being hit by the bus.
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  Speaker 1: When they came to a final stop, the driver refused
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  Speaker 1: to get out of the bus. Officers eventually were able
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  Speaker 1: to see the driver and identify her as Jones. The
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  Speaker 1: report states the officers readied their weapons, issued more commands,
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  Speaker 1: at which point Jones placed her child in front of
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  Speaker 1: her in an attempt to shield herself from the officers. Dude,
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  Speaker 1: what the hell? Fortunately, police were able to remove the
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  Speaker 1: child and after a brief struggle brought Jones into custody.
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  Speaker 1: Investigating officers found a bottle of prescription amphetamines among Jones' items.
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  Speaker 1: They were reportedly within arm's reach of the driver's seat.
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  Speaker 1: Of course they were. Field sobriety test was performed. Officers
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  Speaker 1: concluded that she had been driving while impaired. Booked in
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  Speaker 1: the A.I. Canada Detention Center. No bond issued as of
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  Speaker 1: the time of the reporting. Obviously not in Hamilton County, Ohio. 545-55-KRC,
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  Speaker 1: Talk Station. Happy Monday. Try to make it so anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Stick around all morning if you can. Steve Gooden, our
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  Speaker 1: legal expert, is going to talk about that Hinton trial
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  Speaker 1: and the guilty of murder, but not aggravated murder. Smith
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  Speaker 1: a minute, 720, Signal 99 for an hour on Judge
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  Speaker 1: Bloom and the tragedy that has become the juvenile court
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  Speaker 1: system under her watch. Also, her reaction to the Hinton
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  Speaker 1: verdict as well. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, or pound 550 on AT &
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  Speaker 1: T phones. Love to hear from you if you've got
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  Speaker 1: something to talk about. Without further ado, back to the
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  Speaker 1: stack of stupid. I said student, and that's in the headline.
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  Speaker 1: I've already slipped there. Who's teaching your children? Alabama teacher, well,
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  Speaker 1: accused of selling pills to one of the students in
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  Speaker 1: a classroom. That person, Langston Carter, who's 30 years old,
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  Speaker 1: arrested and taken into custody last Thursday. after Montgomery, Alabama
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  Speaker 1: police were called to the LEAD Academy. According to court records,
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  Speaker 1: the student was found with two pills containing oxycodone and hydrochloride.
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  Speaker 1: It's the oxyacetaminophen mix. The student told his officers he
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  Speaker 1: got the pills from this Carter person, Langston Carter, his teacher.
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  Speaker 1: The student said he paid $ 10 for the pills after
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  Speaker 1: Carter allegedly offered to sell them to him on multiple occasions.
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  Speaker 1: He was told to send money via cash after Carter's girlfriend,
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  Speaker 1: but he had to ask somebody else to send another
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  Speaker 1: student because he didn't have an account. Investigators were able
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  Speaker 1: to verify that transaction. After the money was sent, Carter
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  Speaker 1: gave the student the pills in the classroom. Lead Academy
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  Speaker 1: confirmed that the students were placed on lockdown that afternoon
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  Speaker 1: at the direction of the Montgomery Police Department to ensure
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  Speaker 1: integrity of the investigation. Court filings say that after hearing
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  Speaker 1: the accusation, A canine officer conducted an open-air sniff outside
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  Speaker 1: Carter's vehicle. Canine reacted to an odor. Police opened the
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  Speaker 1: trunk where they found, in a sling-style bag, 6.9 milligrams
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  Speaker 1: of marijuana, a digital scale. Empty plastic bags, 18.9 grams
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  Speaker 1: of mushroom-infused gummies. I guess they have those. 19 5-milligram
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  Speaker 1: oxycodone hydrochloride acetaminophen tabs. a loaded Beretta 9mm handgun, and
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  Speaker 1: other narcotics-related items. The school confirmed... I know. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: school confirmed the teacher has been fired. Carter now facing
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  Speaker 1: multiple felony charges, including possession of a firearm on school property...
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  Speaker 1: two counts of unlawful distribution of controlled substance, and first-degree
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  Speaker 1: possession of weed. Elder Montgomery County Detention Facility on a
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  Speaker 1: $ 300, 000 bond.
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  Speaker 5: Walmart.
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  Speaker 1: Walmart driver tip came in. Dozens of packages were piling
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  Speaker 1: up at a home in Arizona. Investigators found a multimillion-dollar
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  Speaker 1: fraud scheme that stretched all the way to Southeast Asia.
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  Speaker 1: Authorities in Arizona said a Walmart driver told him on
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  Speaker 1: August 27th that he had delivered 30 to 50 packages
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  Speaker 1: under different names to the same Peoria area home in
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  Speaker 1: just a couple of days. A few days later, a
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  Speaker 1: customer reported that someone had hacked their Walmart account and
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  Speaker 1: used it to buy two items. This reminds me of
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  Speaker 1: Tech Friday's Dave Hatter story. According to the documents, two
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  Speaker 1: reports sparked a months-long investigation that ended last week with
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  Speaker 1: six arrests. This group, according to investigators, placed about 15,500
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  Speaker 1: orders on Walmart.com using hacked customer accounts and stolen credit
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  Speaker 1: card numbers. Reportedly altered delivery addresses to get around the
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  Speaker 1: fraud alerts. Peoria police officer William Kennedy, without that delivery driver,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if we would have ever come across
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  Speaker 1: this on our radar. Police linked 11,364 orders worth more
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  Speaker 1: than three quarters of a million dollars to six drop houses.
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  Speaker 1: And total investigators put the fraud at around 1.23 million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Merchandise reportedly funneled through two shops in Peoria and Tolson
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  Speaker 1: before being driven to California to be shipped to Vietnam
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  Speaker 1: in containers through the U.S. Cargo Shipping LLC. Officers said,
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  Speaker 1: like your average shopper who gets stuff for the dogs,
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  Speaker 1: the kids, their house, all those types of items were
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  Speaker 1: coming to those houses. So far, police at Walmarts confirmed
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  Speaker 1: about just under $ 60, 000 in chargeback losses tied to the
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  Speaker 1: two victims. JPMorgan Chase confirmed 203 customers with about $ 9, 000
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  Speaker 1: in unauthorized purchases. Investigators identified 30-year-old Hoai Nguyen Nguyen, that's
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  Speaker 1: two Nguyen's, as the organizer of the illegal operation, which
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  Speaker 1: included nine other people. He denied any involvement in the crimes,
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  Speaker 1: told police that he was only an employee for U.S.
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  Speaker 1: cargo shipping. Two other suspects reportedly told police that this
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  Speaker 1: win-win guy recruited them to accept the packages under different names,
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  Speaker 1: track them, and load them into his van and U-Haul
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  Speaker 1: trailer for drives to California in exchange for a cut
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  Speaker 1: of the shipment values. Search warrant served across the valley,
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  Speaker 1: helped SWAT teams. Ten people detained, four released, six booked
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  Speaker 1: into the Maricopa County Jail. Charges? Fraud, identity theft, computer tampering,
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  Speaker 1: and traffic and stolen property. Thien Tran, 42. Singular Tran,
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  Speaker 1: not Trans. Ui Vu Phan, 55. Minh Ngoc Nguyen, 57.
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  Speaker 1: Ji Juan Lee, 24. Hua Nguyen Nguyen, the guy I
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  Speaker 1: mentioned before, 30. And Haley Hang Nguyen. All six facing
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  Speaker 1: fraudulent schemes and artifices, possession of access, device violation, computer
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  Speaker 1: tampering for fraud, aggravated trafficking for identity and trafficking in
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  Speaker 1: stolen property in the first degree. The Aristocrats. 6 o'clock,
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  Speaker 1: wide open. Feel free to give me a call. Plenty
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  Speaker 1: going on in the world we can dive on into.
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  Speaker 1: It could be your choice, though, if you give me
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  Speaker 1: a ring. Regardless, we'll be right back after the news.
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  Speaker 5: News. And what happens next.
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  Speaker 1: At the Talk Station. 606-55-KRC, the Talk Station. Brian Thomas
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  Speaker 1: right here, inviting phone calls. If you'd like to chime
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  Speaker 1: in on a topic, I'd love to hear from you. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK,
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  Speaker 1: pound 550 on AT & T phones. Next Tuesday, big day.
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  Speaker 1: Hope you got the memo on that. And it really
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  Speaker 1: is a huge, huge, the direction of our country is
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  Speaker 1: in play here without question. Just reeling over the fact
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  Speaker 1: that I wake up in a world where we have
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  Speaker 1: socialists that actually are, you know, above or ahead of
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  Speaker 1: regular candidates on the ballot. We live in a world
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  Speaker 1: where primaries result in the selection of socialists over the
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  Speaker 1: more mainstream Democratic candidates we've become used to over the years.
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  Speaker 1: Got to go vote. Please, dear God. Coming up on
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  Speaker 1: the 55KRC Morning Show, one hour from now, Steve Gooden
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  Speaker 1: on the Hinton trial. Guilty of murder, not aggravated murder.
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  Speaker 1: I want to find out what's next, what's the basis
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  Speaker 1: for the appeal, why the jury instructions had to be
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  Speaker 1: revised midway through. Lots of questions for Steve Gooden. Thank
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  Speaker 1: God Steve's willing to come on the program and talk
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  Speaker 1: about that and explain it to.
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  Speaker 4: All of us.
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  Speaker 1: Christopher Smitherman at 720.
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  Speaker 3: Smitherman.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, this morning, and good morning, Christopher, just chimed
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  Speaker 1: in on Signal 99. He's going to be on the
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  Speaker 1: program during the 8 o'clock hour to talk primarily about
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  Speaker 1: the antics of Judge Bloom and the Juvenile Court. Please vote, Lucan, please.
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  Speaker 1: Her reaction to the Hinton verdict as well, but he
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  Speaker 1: should drive by shooting on Green Street just the other day.
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  Speaker 1: Signal 99 also posted this yesterday. Three o'clock in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: someone hanging out of a car driving down a Green
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  Speaker 1: Street fired three rounds into somebody. No reason, don't understand why.
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  Speaker 1: Shots fired from the passenger side of the car. So, yes,
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  Speaker 1: ongoing problem with crime in the city of Cincinnati. Signal
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  Speaker 1: 99 on that, a whole lot more, and 805. So
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: there we have that. What else is up? Well, if
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  Speaker 1: Maureen is— Maureen, are you out there? My pattern-observing friend Maureen,
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  Speaker 1: here's something to keep your eyes out for. Chuck DeVore
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  Speaker 1: online and noting the Data Republican is a website on X—
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  Speaker 1: And he brought to everyone's attention, if you bother reading
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  Speaker 1: Chuck DeVore's article on this, and he is a national
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  Speaker 1: initiatives author of the Texas Public Policy Foundation, former California legislator,
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  Speaker 1: retired U.S. Army lieutenant colonel. He also wrote a book
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  Speaker 1: called The Crisis, The House Never United, a novel of
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  Speaker 1: early America. But that's his background. But his observations are, well,
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  Speaker 1: quite revealing. And you can see this a mile away,
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  Speaker 1: which that mile is the 2028 elections. which are literally
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  Speaker 1: right around the corner. I know we're dealing with next week.
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  Speaker 1: We have to think forward and what we are going
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  Speaker 1: to be dealing with in 2028. So he points out
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  Speaker 1: over on next data, Republicans reporting on documents and recordings
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  Speaker 1: from the democratic socialists of America, the DSA, as well
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  Speaker 1: as allied networks lay out what these calling and they
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  Speaker 1: are calling these documents, a calculated strategy. As we move
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  Speaker 1: into the 2028 elections, the, the goal is, sustained mass
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  Speaker 1: violence and street clashes designed to push President Trump into
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  Speaker 1: invoking the Insurrection Act. Once invoked, Democratic governors and progressive
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  Speaker 1: organizations would treat the order itself as evidence of fascism
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  Speaker 1: and a reason to undermine federal authority and, of course,
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  Speaker 1: sway your vote in the election. The groups include United
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  Speaker 1: Democracy Alliance, And they reference a woman named Erica Chenoweth's 3.5% rule.
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  Speaker 1: And if you look at that, if you can get 3.5%
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  Speaker 1: of the population engaged in violence and insurrection, quite often
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  Speaker 1: it works. Not a sizable chunk of the population. The
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  Speaker 1: vast majority of us going out with our lives. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: else is getting paid to go out and run riots
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  Speaker 1: in the streets, whatever. Anyway, they say they appear ready
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  Speaker 1: to coordinate this street action, legal support, and media framings.
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  Speaker 1: Neville Roy Singham, yes, he's in Shanghai. He's a Chinese
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  Speaker 1: Communist Party-affiliated billionaire. He's going to be pushing things. Connected
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  Speaker 1: to the Chinese Communist Party's United Front Work Department in
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  Speaker 1: a position to amplify the disruption from abroad. Go back
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  Speaker 1: to the interconnected nature of the world. You wonder where
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  Speaker 1: all this violence and all these protests come from and
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  Speaker 1: all this division. Trust me, the CCP is actively stirring
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  Speaker 1: the pot of division here in this country, and this
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  Speaker 1: is just one other aspect. They're going to continue to
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  Speaker 1: to give us problems. The plan that is circulated by
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  Speaker 1: the Democratic Socialists of America assumes Trump will choose immediate
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  Speaker 1: order over patience. In other words, Insurrection Act. And therefore
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  Speaker 1: hand his opponents the optics that they've prepared. Whether that
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  Speaker 1: assumption holds depends upon the cost of each path. So
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  Speaker 1: you've got a couple different directions you can go. He
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  Speaker 1: knows policing power in America is overwhelmingly local. FBI has
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  Speaker 1: about 13,700 special agents nationwide. compared to the New York
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  Speaker 1: Police Department, which has more than 34,000 sworn officers. A
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  Speaker 1: president can protect federal property, personnel, and functions without becoming
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  Speaker 1: the default response for every city whose leaders have weakened
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  Speaker 1: policing and tolerated disorder. In other words, you can do
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  Speaker 1: a restrained protection. Federal property, we're putting in federal protections.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody else, you're on your own. Local police, you deal
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  Speaker 1: with it. Broader federal action is, though, available. That's the concern,
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  Speaker 1: this maybe overzealous enforcement with the Insurrection Act. Both options
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  Speaker 1: carry consequences, and progressive networks are organized to contest either one.
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  Speaker 1: They're planning ahead for this. One set of costs is political.
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  Speaker 1: Invoking the Insurrection Act and placing federalized National Guard or
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  Speaker 1: active duty forces in law enforcement roles inside Democratic cities
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  Speaker 1: would supply the fascism narrative. Local Democratic officials who have
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  Speaker 1: criticized aggressive policing and treated destructive unrest as legitimate expression
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  Speaker 1: would likely resist or litigate the deployment. The resistance will
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  Speaker 1: become part of the story. Turn it back to 1992,
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles riots. He points out the illustrated different situation.
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  Speaker 1: After the Rodney King verdict, the LAPD initially pulled back.
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  Speaker 1: Democratic Mayor Tom Bradley requested help. Democrat requested help. Republican
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  Speaker 1: Governor Pete Wilson activated the California National Guard. President George H.W.
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  Speaker 1: Bush then invoked the Insurrection Act. He says, I was
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  Speaker 1: a National Guard captain then, leading patrols with live ammunition
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: in the Crenshaw District. Residents thanked us. Visible force restored
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: order with relatively few rounds fired. The local, state, and
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: federal level agreement mattered. But we're not in 1992. Today's
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Democratic mayors and governors are more likely to oppose federal
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: assistance in restoring order, turning the deployment itself, not the violence,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: into the central political fact. The alternative, limiting federal action
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: to clear federal interest and leaving local order to the
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: officials voters elected, also has its costs. Residents of Democratic
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: cities and states would live with results of reducing police capacity,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: progressive prosecutors, and a political culture that's treated sustained disorder
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: as expression. Burning businesses, looting, and overstretched local police would
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: be visible realities. That visibility could accelerate the ongoing migration
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: of residents and businesses towards states that prioritize public safety.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I would point out to the extent they haven't left already.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: But you know what? As he points out, those effects
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: are not cost-free. Destroyed property, disruptive commerce, injured officers, civilians,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and longer-term damage in major cities affect the people who
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: did not vote for that weak governing approach. Workers who
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: commute in and markets that still depend on those cities.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Progressive media and political groups would work to reframe the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: disorder as the product of, of course, federal non-intervention or
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: what I would say is more likely the systemic factors
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: rather than their stupid local choices. This is all about
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: evil capitalism. You can hear the rantings and ravings, kind
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: of like what's going on in France. Systemic factors brought
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: the violence to the street. That's what he points to,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the recent unrest in France offering a different kind of parallel.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Cost of living protests joined by organized groups that torched buildings,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: looted shops, and injured officers. Interior Minister Laurent Nunez later
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: said police lost control in major cities despite large deployments.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: European governments have often hesitated to apply sustained force when
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: violence can be framed as protest. The result? Prolonged disorder
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: followed by recrimination. American leaders watching that record face a
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: version of the same tension. How much disorder to accept
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: before the practical price of inaction exceeds the political price
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: of action? The reported DSA-linked planning treats the Insurrection Act
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: as a trap that works only if Trump walks into
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: it on their timetable and terms. Refusing the invitation does
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: not require ignoring anarchy. Accepting it does not guarantee a
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: clean narrative win. Protecting federal interests while the consequences of
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: progressive local governance stay localized is one coherent approach. In
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: other words, a warning. Donald, don't go overboard. And I
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: would say when this happens, not if. You can see
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the writing on the wall, I would argue. Direct intervention
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to restore order, even against the wishes of elected officials
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: of the affected jurisdictions, is another, but carry political and
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: economic and human costs. The left's apparent intent is to
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: force the decision and then contest whichever path is chosen.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: How much disorder materializes, how local authorities respond or decline
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: to respond, and how voters process the resulting images will
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: ultimately shape the outcome. But the planning is the warning.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Going back to the idea that they are going to
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: want to engage in this level of protest in order
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: to bring about an overzealous response from the Trump administration
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: or an underwhelming response, both of which will be blaming
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: the administration and, of course, the system, which is in
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: their hearts and minds, must be brought down. Scary stuff.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: 616-55KRC-D Talk Station. I didn't hear from Maureen on that.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: 621-55KRC-D Talk Station. Happy Monday. Well, Maureen is out there.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Good morning, Maureen. And this is something, you know, I.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Don't recall her sending me this, but I did come
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: to this sort of conclusion on my own independently. Either way,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: this certainly sounds logical, plausible, and probably likely. Now, what
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: have we been told over and over and over again?
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Dems ahead in the polls. Now, some people don't believe that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: People who just look back at the last five or
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: six election cycles and see that the polls were way
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: off and the polls just keep getting worse because people
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: aren't answering phones anymore. We've got technology that, well, a
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Prevents messages from even coming in or phone calls from
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: even coming in or you see a number you don't recognize,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: you say no, and you aren't even asked to participate
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: in a survey. Online surveys have never been reliable at all.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Republicans widely considered very reluctant to even participate in a survey.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Bit jaded and cynical, my Republican friends, and I get that.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: So you're just awash in all this. Democrats are winning
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: by X number percentage, 10 points ahead. El-Sayed is just
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: clobbering the opponent. Stuff that really is hard to believe
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: in a country like America, but that's what you have.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: So here's the steps. Steps one through five, and thank you, Maureen.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Democrats rigged the polls to convince the public that they
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: are going to win the midterms. That's the way it
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: feels right now, doesn't it? Democrats then lose the midterms,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: which of course could happen. And, of course, you get
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: into phase three where the Democrats and the mainstream media
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: tell the public that the election must have been rigged
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: because the polls, they said, were supposed to have the
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Democrats winning. Now, I have seen evidence of that already.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Just look at headlines. Swirl about on your regular news
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: dump site. So-and-so is claiming this election is going to
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: be stolen. So-and-so's election is going to be stolen. Republicans
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: are going to steal the election. Donald Trump's busy undermining
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: the integrity of the election.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: Huh.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Remarkably similar to the things that the Republicans and Donald
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Trump were saying about the prior elections. But look, both
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: sides saying it. Well, the easy solution to this maybe
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: would be to plug the holes that would allow elections
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: to be tampered with, like, you know, preventing people who
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: aren't eligible to vote from voting. Maybe a citizenship verification
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: question so we don't have people who aren't allowed to
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: vote in federal elections voting in them. But no, no,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: we don't want to do that. Democrats love leaving a
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: door open for possible fraud and corruption because they think
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: it's going to inure to their benefit. But if it doesn't,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: step four, Dems and the mainstream media begin a new
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: psychological operation to convince the public that Trump is a
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: dictator that stole the election, and then they attempt to
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: convince the public to protest, rise up against Trump, sort
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: of going up to the 2028 election. All this could
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: be building up or maybe even come to a head
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: in advance of that, which supports the other guy's argument
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: about whether the Insurrection Act will be put in place.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: So now I would rather you tell me what you'd
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: rather have. Would you rather have the Democrats win? And
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: then the Trump investigations will begin, of course, and everybody
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: else who had any connection with Donald Trump or even
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: uttered his name in a positive fashion will get investigated.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: But nothing will get done in Congress or Republicans win.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: And this all hell breaks loose. Oh, my God, Republicans
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: stole the election, whining and screaming and wailing and gnashing
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: of teeth for the next couple of years until 2028.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I'd take that scenario over the prior scenario on any
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: given day. Because what ultimately happens, they're going to claim
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the election was stolen. And a lot of people will
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: believe it. But they're going to have to have proof.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump has never given up on his claims that
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the election was stolen and Biden got elected, but we
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: haven't had any follow-up. The documented proof, there's been no
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: adjudication of that. Now, some people still believe it, and
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: maybe someday we will get proof that the election was
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: somehow tampered with or stolen, but we haven't gotten to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: that point yet. We're going back a lot of years
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: for that one. That's the challenge the Democrats will face.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: They can scream election fraud, a stolen election all day long,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: but you know what? Unless they document it with proof,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: It's just going to be that. A lot of screaming.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: 625 at 55KRC, the talk station. Local stories or phone calls,
• 28:36
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• 28:38
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• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Been pulling Maureen's chain this morning. She's listening. She's like,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I want to call in. I can't call in. She's
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: taking care of a sleeping baby. Can't make too much noise.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I've got so much to say. And she gave me
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: a little smile or a frowny face emoticon. Anyway, Maureen,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: if you get the opportunity, you know you're welcome to
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: call in here. Everybody else is, too. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, Tom550
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: on AT & T phones. Over to local stories. Yes,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: big story is Rodney Hennerton Jr. being found guilty of murder.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: And Steve Gooden, after the top of the air news,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: our legal expert, is going to be talking about this
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: criminal matter. Quite a few questions we have swirling around him.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: It was not aggravated murder. It was just murder. plus
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: reckless homicide. So those all involve the jury instructions, the
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: lesser included offense. So convicted, and that, I believe, is
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: the correct outcome. The conviction, whether or not it's sufficient,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: remains to be seen. Let's see here. A 35-year-old man
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: died Saturday night after being injured by a bull. This
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: was during a Warren County rodeo event. Clear Creek Township
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Police and EMS showed up about 20 to 8 in
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the evening to Fox Hollow Stables. A report of a
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: rider had been injured during the venue's Saturday night rodeo.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Authorities identified that rider as Jason Blake Saylor. who police
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: said suffered a traumatic chest injury after being kicked or
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: stepped on by a bull. Hazards of the job, I guess.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: He was wearing chest protection but still sustained severe injuries
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: to his chest. Medics treated him at the scene, took
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: him to Atrium Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Any photos or videos of that? Police were asking for
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: folks with phone videos, recordings, any pictures, additional information about
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the incident to please give the dispatch a call. Clear
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Creek Township can be breached at 513-695-2525, 695-2525. Yes, when
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: he wakes up, Maureen, that will be fine. Although the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: guests begin at 7.05. Workers had to evacuate the Hammond
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: County Board of Elections on Saturday morning. Someone spotted a
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: suspicious substance in the mail about almost 11 o'clock in
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the morning. at the building along Smith Road. Hazmat crews
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: and police showed up to assess the situation, check out
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the substance, and then ultimately gave everybody the all-clear to
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: return inside. Voting has continued as normal, back to regular hours.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Director Sherry Polin, the safety of our employees and the
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: public is our highest priority. Appreciate the prompt response of
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: police and hazmat folks. Grateful for the cooperation of everybody
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: involved in the evacuation. Details on that one are still
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: under investigation. West End apartment complex shooting. Police announced that
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: arrest in that matter. Shooting at West End apartment where
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: they were called to the 7th floor of Stanley Row
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Towers on Poplar Street. 12.30 in the afternoon, October 24th,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: reports of a shooting. They found an adult victim at
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the scene. Have not released the victim's identity or condition.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Police say that they did disdain a suspect in connection
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: with that shooting, but have not released the identity or
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: possible motive. Questions remain on that. What else we got here?
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: One person's dead after an early morning fire on Westwood
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: happened Saturday, according to the Cincinnati Fire Department. 2,600 block
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: of Western Northern Boulevard, almost 4 o'clock in the morning
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: on Saturday is when the call came in. Firefighters were
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: dealing with the fire, and then they were ultimately notified
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: while they were fighting the fire that there was three
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: people inside the building. It was occupied. Two victims assessed
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: on the scene and not transported. Sadly, the third was
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: taken to the hospital and pronounced dead. victim and the
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: cause of fire have yet to be identified. So sad
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: news there. Oh, and wonderful news over the weekend. I
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: know you got the memo. I got the memo. Congratulations
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: to my alma mater. You see Bearcats beat number eight,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Texas tech, Cincinnati unranked, huge victory. Then of course, if
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: you were watching the first half of the Bengals game,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: you thought they were in serious trouble, but ultimately pulled
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: it out and walloped them in the second half. So
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Football victories over the weekend, which is great. It's 6.34,
• 32:57
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• 33:13
  Speaker 1: spot for 22.3. I just looked up my Facebook page,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: and I have, of course, some friends of them on Facebook.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Everyday Carry Series. They had a class to help you
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: shoot in low light environments. It's called a light in
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the dark class. So move through and around cover and
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: concealment to address threats in a low light environment. Just
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: one of the multitude of classes they offer up there.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: That'd be a good class to take. Anyway, I think
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: quite often we are confused as Americans, people who do
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: pay attention to news. It's a question of where the
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: source is. If you're wondering how you might seem to
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: have so much more information on very important issues than
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: the vast majority of Americans, it simply becomes a question
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: of where the information comes from. You can diversify your
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: news sources and run into things you're not going to
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: get in the sort of quote-unquote mainstream media, but sadly
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: the vast majority of Americans rely on one of four
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: news aggregators. Just shy of 60% of Americans rely get
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: their news from apple news google news yahoo news and
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: microsoft's msn now i would think my listening audience already
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: knows what that spells out or that adds up to
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: but just the news did a reporting on this according
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: to tracking research data those four apps apple google yahoo
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: and microsoft msn are on nearly every single smartphone in
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: america they already exist on there and serve as the
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: dominant news window for an estimated 58% of Americans. According
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: to the special report, this release, and its analysis, all
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: four news aggregators exhibit heavily left-wing bias and overwhelmingly servicing
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: mainstream and left-leading publications, filtering out conservative outlets. Now, get
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: a load of this. Of 487 top stories last February
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: on Google News, MRC reports only 11. 2.2% leaned conservative.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Media research center's David Bazell, who crunched the numbers on this,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: reported that after analyzing one month of stories on Apple News,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: his group found that of 620 stories Apple had promoted
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: on its top feeds, not a single one of those
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: stories was from a conservative right-wing news source. Zero, he said,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: emphasizing it. Not one.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Zero.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: According to the Media Research Council, of 620 stories Apple
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: News had last January, there were zero conservative-leaning ones. Although
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: they had 440 left-leaning, I guess the balance were neutral
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: like Switzerland. And, you know, you'd think maybe, just maybe,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: since New York Post and Fox News are wildly popular
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: sites to get news that maybe one of the stories
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: might have come from Fox or New York Post, zero.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Is that a more in-depth Big Four analysis in April
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: show the apps promoted 92% left-leaning outlets and only 17%
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: of right-leaning ones? The bias is so obvious. And you've
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: got to think things like artificial intelligence would allow you
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: to go through and sift through all of these materials
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: without having to actually read 700 specific articles to determine
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: where the leaning is. But You know, we have these
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: tools now, and so we can, without sort of speculating, oh,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: the mainstream media is all left-wing. No, look, here it is.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: The numbers don't lie on this one. NPR was linked
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: by Apple 155 times in six months. It was linked
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: by Google 121 times in six months. NPR, National Public Radio,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: the 20th most popular news website in America today, whereas
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: the New York Post is in the top 10, Breitbart
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: in the top 35. None of them get reported from
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the Breitbart sites, the New York Post sites, Fox News sites.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: You're getting a constant drumbeat of left-leaning, left-biased news. Too
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: many people live in this echo chamber. Too many people
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: fail to get outside of that echo chamber and discover
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: there is a real world out there that has a
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: lot of interesting information that might help them steer into
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: a better path than what they're convinced they're on right now.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: And you know, there's that was it Hannity was talking
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: about the Sharia law. Okay. We were all spectacle or
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: skeptical about polls and everything. What was it? What was
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: the figure there, Joe, like 40 or 50% of kids
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: thinks Sharia laws and 45. Now that to me only
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: suggests that the kids to have no concept of what
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Sharia law is all about. Go down the litany. Again,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I go back to the whole kind of concept that
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the left wing and, embracing the Islamist folks, that somehow,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: some way, this coalition is going to remain cohesive. Now,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: when they win, if they ultimately win, and they get
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: their ways, and they get into higher office, and we
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: conservatives among us are all relegated to the ash pile
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: of history, that's when those two groups are going to
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: start a civil war between themselves. They've got nothing in common. 645, 55KRC,
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• 38:44
  Speaker 1: so anyway. Tick tock, tick tock as we count down
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: to the election. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound 550 on AT &
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: T phones. I mean, this announcement from RFK over the weekend.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Why can't we have a Made in America label on
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: or caught in America label on fish?
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Seafood.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I'd like to know. He made an announcement in Florida,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: the creation of a voluntary label made for U.S. caught
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: fish to differentiate them from fish, well, coming from polluted
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: farms from around the globe. And he talked about that.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: He noted Vietnam and Cambodia specifically. They fence off mangrove swamps,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: kill the local fish, raise shrimp that are loaded with antibiotics.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: And also filth. Absolute filth. He pointed out at a rally,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: fish caught in the United States has no comparison with
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: the imports we get. They have no quality controls, basically.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Few safety controls and, of course, can even be toxic.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: This is why my wife will not allow me to
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: buy farm-raised anything. Not that I necessarily would, but wouldn't
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: it be nice to know right there, bigger than life,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: USA caught? No European country will take these polluted fish,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: basically the shrimp that's raising these farms. No European country
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: will take them, so they ship them all over here.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: President Trump rebuilding the infrastructure, reopening the markets for our
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: commercial fishermen. And you're not escaping this. Apparently, according to
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, 80% percent of fish
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: bought in the United States was imported from other countries.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: So you're going over your local grocery store, you see
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: a piece of fish in there. Can I know where
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: it's from? Not really. Kennedy said he's been working for
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: 40 years to help fishermen overcome the restrictions and hamper
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: their output. We believe U.S. seafood is the most sustainably
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: harvested in the world. This label gives customers a simple,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: recognizable way to identify American-caught seafood or while supporting our
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: domestic fishing, processing, and retail industries. Good. That would be
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: from the director of the NEFSA, the New England Fisherman
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Stewardship Association. Well, I mean, does it trouble anybody that
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: we're not allowed to have? Up until now, I guess
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: we don't have a label. How about a mandatory label?
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: And you can say, well, Thomas, that flies in the
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: face of your libertarian leanings, the government ordering people to label.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: This is food we're talking about here. And one of
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: the few labeling mandates that I find not offensive at
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: all is letting me know what is in whatever it
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: is in that can I'm getting ready to eat or
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: any other food. Look, carb breakdown, vitamin breakdown, what's it
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: got in it? Is there anything in there that you
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: may be allergic to? It's nice for people with allergies
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: to have that information. How about where the damn fish
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: came from? Why can't I find out where my beef
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: has been processed? I want American beef or do I
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: want Brazilian beef? I should have a choice in that.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I can make an informed decision then. So here, yes,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas is advocating for labeling. Clear labeling. I don't
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: want to eat this stuff coming from other countries. You know,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: you kind of take for granted on some level that
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: the standards wherever they are manufactured are up to U.S.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: Standards.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: In other words, if it could be imported here, and
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking in the back of my mind about pharmaceuticals,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: And we find out that, I guess, wasn't it heparin, Paulette,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: you're out there listening, that was being manufactured in open
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: pits with pig blood and unsanitary conditions in China? How
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: is it that that stuff was able to make it
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: to our shores? We don't have folks there from the
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: USDA or any place else monitoring the activity. This is
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: one of the reasons why we want to reshore so
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: much of this stuff. Our future kind of depends upon it, too.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: If you get in a global war and your adversary
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: is the place where your pharmaceuticals come from, it could
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: pose a bit of a challenge. But more fundamentally, every
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: single day, you should be presented with the information that
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: you need to make these informed decisions, or at least
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: they should be allowed to. And that's why I went
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: back to the point that this is a voluntary label. Now,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I would view that if I was a fish producer
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: in the United States, I would put that on there
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: in a heartbeat. This required official action from the administration
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: to allow them that option. Does this suggest to you
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: that before he rolled out this new rule that Someone
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: who catches and processes seafood in the United States from U.S.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: supplies wasn't able to let their own purchasers know that
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: it came from here? That's a helpful little piece of information.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: It could differentiate them from everybody else. So, anyway, I
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: think it's a great development, quite honest with you. I
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: truly do. And let's hope that we can get more
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: labeling along those lines. Like, for example, our chicken, our pork,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: our beef. Let me see that it's made in America.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Let me make that informed choice. It's 7.06 at 55KRCD
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Talk Station. Brian Thomas, always happy to look up and
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: see when Steve Gooden's on the rundown, and he is,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: and he's on the phone right now to talk about
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: the conviction, or rather the guilty verdicts in the Rodney
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Hinton Jr.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: Trial.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Murder, reckless homicide, of course, in connection with the death
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: of Hamilton County Sheriff's Deputy Larry Henderson. From the law
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: firm of Porter Wright, Steve Gooden, welcome back, my friend.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I appreciate your time here on the morning show.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Anytime, Brian.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Good morning. Well, let's break this down. Five total counts.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: He was guilty of two counts of the lesser included
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: charge of reckless homicide, one count of murder, and two
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: counts of felonious assault. Lesser included charge of reckless homicide.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: That was the.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Additional.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: The motion from Clyde Bennett to add the lesser included
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: charge of reckless homicide because this was the suggestion he
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: was trying to commit suicide. And therefore, in the process
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: of trying to commit suicide, he inadvertently ran into the
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: deputy sheriff's deputy, killing him. That would be unintentional, but
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: nonetheless homicide. Is that what you think they determined, or
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: am I missing a point of fact on that? That's
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: why we have you, Steve Gooden.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: Well, I guess we don't know. The problem is we
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: don't know exactly what they did. This looks like a
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: jury trial. that tried to, in my view, probably improperly
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: and illegally craft some sort of compromise verdict. Because murder,
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: and they did find him guilty of one of the
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: forms of murder, is an intentional crime. And then at
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: the same time, they found him guilty of reckless homicide,
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: which lacks intent. So I think this case actually either
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: comes back on appeal, or the judge is boxed into
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: a corner and has to grant a new trial. I
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: don't see how this verdict can stand. You have two
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: different states of mind. And then putting aside the whole issue,
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: it looks to me like the prosecution, which I don't
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: think did the best job in the world here, but
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: I do believe they proved aggravated murder, which would require
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: life without parole. Aggravated murder is intentional murder. of a
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: police officer in uniform. And I don't see how, it
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: looks to me like this jury, you had some jurors
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: in there, I'm speculating here, but I think it's informed speculation,
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: who sort of felt sorry for Hinton, who bought parts
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: of his defense, but couldn't bring themselves to find him
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: all the way, not guilty by reason of insanity. So
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: this is what they cobbled together. And the problem is
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: from a legal standpoint under Ohio law, it doesn't really
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: make sense. You cannot have a reckless homicide which lacks
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: any intent to kill plus a form of murder which
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: does require an intent to kill. They don't make any
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: sense together. And then there's another issue, Brian, that I'm
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: hearing also from folks on the defense team, that there
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: is some indication that some of the jurors improperly relied
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: upon statements that Hinton made to one of the state
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: psychologists that may have violated his Fifth Amendment rights. They
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: were instructed not to rely upon his statements to the
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: psychologist's I understand the defense counsel interviewed some of the jurors,
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: and I believe some of them stated affirmatively that they
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: did do that, which could be grounds for a new
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: trial on its own. So the bad news for the
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: Henderson family to a law enforcement community is that this
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: matter doesn't seem to be over. I don't think this
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: verdict is going to bring any finality whatsoever.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Were the statements he made to the psychiatrist subject to
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: some motion by Clyde Bennett to suppress that information or
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: otherwise keep it out of the hands of the jury
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: in the first place? Did the judge rule on that
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: or did it just come out in testimony?
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: I think it came out in testimony, and I believe
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: how it shook out. I saw a lot of the trial,
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: this particular part I didn't see. I was reading about
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: it after the fact, to be fair. But my understanding
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: is it absolutely is black weather law in Ohio that
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: whatever Hinton said to the psychologist, state or otherwise, really
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: can't come in. And it came out in testimony from
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: one of the state psychologists. There were two of them
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: who testified that Hinton did swerve or sort of targeted
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: the guy. And I believe the jury was instructed, look,
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: that you really can't consider. There was other evidence that
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: he targeted Henderson. And that's what you need to rely upon.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: But apparently some of the jurors said, well, we found
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: that compelling and that they didn't disregard it the way
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: they were supposed to disregard it. And I don't know
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: how you and it will be a really tough thing
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: to disregard just from a common sense standpoint. Once you
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: hear that, I don't know how you would since intent
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: was really all that was an issue here. I mean,
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: There was no question he drove the car, no question
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: he struck the officer and killed him. Really, the whole
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: intent was really the biggest thing that cut against his
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: not guilty by reason of insanity argument. So it was just–
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: it sounds to me like a boondoggle from start to finish.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Well– That suggests to me that it would just be
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: declared a mistrial and they'll just retry him. If they
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: weren't entitled to hear the testimony or the statements that
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: he made to the psychiatrist as a matter of black
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: letter law, as you've described it, Steve, then isn't that
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: in and of itself sufficient to grant a new trial?
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: It could be. It should be. But I think the
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: argument here is that the judge gave what they call
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: a curative instruction and actually told the jury not to
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: regard it. or to disregard the statement. And typically, that
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: can be enough to fix something like this. But if
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: you really do have, and this isn't confirmed, but I've
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: heard from a pretty good source at the courthouse that
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: there was at least one or two jurors who have
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: told defense counsel, no, we did, I know what the
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: judge said, but we did consider that. If that really
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: happened and those jurors are willing to step forward and
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: bolster that, that's going to be a real problem for
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: the prosecution. The judge is going to have to deal
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: with it. But I think just the verdict on its
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: face with these two states of mind, both reckless and intentional,
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: being found simultaneously, I don't know. I mean, I think
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: it's going to be a very, very tough thing for
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: this to move forward. I've never heard of this. I
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: was a prosecutor for about six years. down in that
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: office doing felony work and worked on some NGRI cases.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: I've never seen one come back with both states of
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: mind in the verdict. I don't see how it's possible.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, and I agree with you completely. That's why I'm
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: glad you have you on here because that's exactly what
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: in my head I was thinking. I was like, I
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: don't get this. Reckless homicide and murder, guilty on both.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: That just doesn't make any sense. So good. At least
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: I don't have to look in the mirror and think
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I'm an idiot. The prosecutors and defense attorneys met with
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: the jurors after the verdict Are jurors obligated to reveal
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: the deliberative process? Do they have any mandate that they
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: need to speak with the defense attorneys and prosecutors, or
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: can they just say, no, I'm leaving, I'm going home?
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they have absolutely no mandate or obligation to speak
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: to the defense attorneys, although it's not uncommon. I mean,
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: usually both sets of attorneys make themselves available to talk
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: to the jury. I mean, even if you're not looking
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: for some sort of error, In the case, everyone kind
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: of wants to know about the deliberations, and oftentimes the
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: jurors are very happy to talk about it. They want
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: to get it off their chest. it's been a deeply
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: personal thing for them. And, you know, it's pretty intense
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: and tough. I'm not trying to beat up on these
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: jurors for doing the wrong thing. I mean, I think
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: they were struggling with this. But by the same token,
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: you know, it's pretty common for them to want to talk,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: but they don't have to talk. And some jurors will
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: just pick up their stuff and go home. They've had
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: enough and just want to get back to their jobs
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: and families after, you know, in this case, spending almost
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: two weeks of their lives dealing with this situation. So
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: it's not uncommon for them to talk. It's not uncommon
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: for them not to talk. And under Ohio law, they're
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: absolutely allowed to, but not required to.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Well, considering the intent component, the conflicting convictions with one
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: not requiring intent and the other requiring it, what do
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: you make of last Thursday with the jurors asking for
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: some clarification about the difference between the two aggravated murder charges?
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Doesn't that suggest right there that they were maybe confused?
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: It absolutely does. I think that was kind of the
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: first sign of question, that they were struggling. And really,
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: it seems complicated, but it's fairly straightforward. If you find
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: that it was intentional murder, and you find that he
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: was targeting a police officer, and you find that he
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: killed a police officer in uniform, then it's aggravated murder,
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: and that's a life without a possibility of parole, actually.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: It could have been a death penalty case, actually, but
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: that was taken off the... off the table very early on. So,
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: you know, it really seems to me that there were
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: people in the room who were saying, well, isn't this
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: an aggravated murder then? You know, how are we there?
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: So then they ended up finding guilty of murder with
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: no aggravating factors, which again, even that suggests that wait
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: a minute, no matter what you think of the prosecution,
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: I do believe they proved that he was in uniform
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: performing police duties, directing traffic in this instance at the
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: time of his death. And there was some pretty clear evidence,
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: I thought, that Hinton was looking for a police officer
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: to kill because, I mean, based upon this idea that
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: he had just seen, and this is a whole other problem, frankly,
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: the way the city handled this, that he had just
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: seen video of a police officer, of a Cincinnati police
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: officer killing his son in what turned out to be
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: a justified shooting because his son had stolen a car
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: and was fleeing from the stolen car with a gun.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: in a residential neighborhood. And the police officer did open
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: fire and take him down, which is very, very sad
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: and terrible. But the prosecutor's office ruled it was a
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: good shooting. So he had just seen that video, was
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: in a heightened emotional state, I suppose, as anyone would be.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: And then within a couple hours, here he is running
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: down Deputy Henderson for seemingly no reason other than he
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: was upset with law enforcement. And I believe that to
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: be the evidence that essentially was presented to this jury.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Which I think suggests that if they hadn't done the
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: lesser included charge, if the judge had not allowed for that,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: they probably would have found him guilty of the aggravated murder,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: not having this lesser option to rely on. That would
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: be my guess. I mean, I know that's speculation, Steve,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: but that seems to be the way it would go.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I would think so. And I mean, look,
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: I do think it confused things. And I thought what
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: was very what was very, very interesting here is just,
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: you know, look, it's very easy to shoot at the
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: defense attorneys here. But they were, you know, they, you know,
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: Clyde Bennett and James Fogan really, really did their job here.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: This began as a death penalty case about 18 months ago.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: And now we have this muddled verdict here. that may
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: end up having to be retried. So they have really,
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: you know, sometimes a defense attorney, all they can do
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: is sow seeds of chaos, you know, in a case.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: And I think they've done a pretty good job of
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: that here. So, you know, but at the end of
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: the day, I mean, the people that I feel so
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: sorry for and who I hear, you know, from others
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: are very upset are, you know, is the family.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: Of Larry Henderson, who were like, my God, we may
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: have to go through this all again. And they've been
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: around the criminal justice system long enough to know that
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: they knew when the verdict was read, apparently, that it
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: was sort of nonsensical and something that would likely not
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: be the end of this.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I guess it's not the end. Fat Lady has not sung.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: I think you can see the process unfolding. They'll appeal.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: It'll get overturned. A new trial will be in place.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: And then Do you anticipate a lesser included offense if
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: this is a retry, or are they going to just
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: stick with aggravated murder?
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: Well, they might, and here's the other concern I think
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: I would have if I were the Henderson family. Often,
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: a case is overturned on appeal like this, or if
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: there is a... If the judge grants a new trial,
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: even short of it being appealed, the big question is
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: whether or not you want to put everyone through this
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: again and plead it out. That's absolutely right.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Well, if it were to stand, I read that it's
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: 15 years to life is what he's eligible for at
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: this point. But I think anything less than life would
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: probably be a real major disappointment to the family who
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: no longer has their loved one with them anymore. Porter Wright.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: I think that's exactly right.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Porter Wright's the name of the firm. Steve Gooden is
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: the attorney we rely on. Excellent lawyers there, and Steve
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: is one of them, obviously. Steve, thank you so much
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: for your willingness to come on and talk about these,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure we'll be talking about this one again
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: down the road.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I'm afraid you're right. Take care, Brian. Thank you.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you, man. It's 719 right now. Christopher Smitherman's up next. 55KRC,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: The Talk Station. But first, Ryan O'Shield, you know, I'm
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: at KRC, The Talk Station. 722-55-KRC-D Talk Station. A little
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: bit late into the segment, but I am so pleased.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the 55-KRC Morning Show. Former Vice Mayor
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: of the City of Cincinnati and political commentator here on
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: the morning show, Smithervent Time, Christopher Smitherman. Welcome back, my friend.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Great having you on, as always.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: Hey, brother.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on. You know, I just want
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: to touch on, coming out of the gate, the Vivek
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Ramaswamy commercial. Yeah. That I see all the fake outrage.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: about the commercial. Let me address a couple of things.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: Number one, the commercial never talked about sexual misconduct, making
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: fun or light of anything that happened in his opponent's life.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: The commercial says that this is a mother who says
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: that she doesn't like her or believes that she's lying
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: and that she didn't grow up in a tent. Now,
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: I'm not here to talk about the commercial. I'm more
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: here to talk about two things. Number one, that Republicans
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: who are going to vote for Vivek are still voting
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: for him. Number one, Democrats creating this false outrage. They're
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: just so concerned. They can't believe how bad and vile
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: the commercial is. Let me remind you that when Charlie
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: Kirk was murdered, these are the same people that were
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: mocking his murder. All of them. And not one person said, oh, man,
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: it's really bad with people standing at a rally faking
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: like they have a gun and shooting themselves in the
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: head or the neck. There were people that lost their
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: jobs for things that they said about that. What about
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: the comedian who cut Trump's head off and was holding
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: it in her hand? Right. Where where was all the
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: outrage about all of that? What about all of the
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: crazy commercials they have out there running about Vivek Ramaswamy, right?
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, whether it's his mother that they're injecting into
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: those commercials, whether it's saying that he lied about some drug,
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: which isn't true. I mean, the reality of this is
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: that this is a very tough profession, this thing called politics.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: You have to have tough skin to be in it, right?
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: And I'm just suggesting that if the Democratic candidate cannot
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: debate won't show up and defend whatever position she has, right?
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: If she says that she thinks something isn't true, where
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: do you clarify that? On a debate. stage. If your
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: opposition has said something, then you bring that information to
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: the debate and that is where you clarify it. You
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: don't sit back and just say, oh, I'm a victim.
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: I'm worried.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: I can't believe that he said that about me. Let
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: me tell you something. People understand and Republicans understand across
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: the state that they are voting for their country. They're
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: not in the data centers. I haven't had one person
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: walk up and say, man, I'm really worried about the
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: data centers. They're talking to me about communism, socialism, men
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: in locker rooms with their daughters, and they're out here
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: talking about saving their country. They're saying, I'm not voting
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: on early voting. I'm voting on election day. I'm a patriot.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: These are things that people are saying to me, and
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: that is why the polls are off, because I want
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: to remind you, your listening audience, and everybody, the state
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: of Ohio is still a farming state. When you get
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: out of Cincinnati, you get out of Columbus, you get
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: out of Toledo, for example, you get out of Cleveland,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: you got farmland. And I don't know why the Democrats
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: think that farmers aren't critical thinkers or incredibly smart. They
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: know what they're doing. They're going to show up in
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  Speaker 3: droves in these small towns around the state of Ohio,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: and they're not worried about that commercial. They're worried about
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: their country. They're looking at France, and they're saying, I
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: don't want my country to look like France.
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  Speaker 1: Preach it, Christopher Smitherman.
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  Speaker 5: Pause.
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  Speaker 1: We'll bring it back. He will continue. The Talk Station. 7.30,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: 55KRC Talk Station. Happy Monday. Christopher Smitherman's on the phone
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: doing the Smitherman. Yeah, he's got to observe, Christopher. You
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: did a great job about this whole Amy Acton thing
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: with the Ramaswamy ad. She won't answer questions at campaign events, right?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: You're allowed to record her. You can't take pictures of her.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: I have her people assault you or whatever. She will
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: not debate Vivek Ramaswamy. And now it's this chorus of
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: faux outrage. And I agree, it's faux outrage, Christopher. You
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: can't criticize a victim. So in other words... We can't
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  Speaker 1: get any information out of her. We're just supposed to
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  Speaker 1: accept her and let her play the victim card and
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: then have people actually go out and vote because she's
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: a victim of some sort? What the hell kind of logic?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: It's the most illogical thing ever. What are her qualifications?
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear victim under qualifications because that
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  Speaker 1: is not a qualification to be governor of the state
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  Speaker 1: of Ohio, Christopher.
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  Speaker 5: It's not.
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  Speaker 3: It's not. And that's the part that I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: what the Democrats, they just drill down and want us.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: to focus and be distracted. That's basically what you're saying.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, that's the reason I'm
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: not going to debate him because he's such a bad guy, right?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: The reality of it is that when you go up
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: and you debate, that's the interview. That's the moment where
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: you stand in front of Ohio voters and you say,
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  Speaker 3: here's my interview. And I get to ask you questions.
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  Speaker 3: So what you're saying, Brian, and I want to make
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  Speaker 3: sure your listening audience heard clearly what you said. Not
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: only is she unwilling to debate, she's unwilling to come
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: on your show, come on anybody else's show, and really
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: sit down with people who are not going to give
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: her softball questions. Ask her tough questions about her position
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: on things like education, school choice, what's her position on
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: property taxes. data centers? What does she think about dudes
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: being in the locker room with our daughters? That's a
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: big deal. What is her position on immigration and working
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: with ICE? Meaning this is someone who was at a
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Cleveland event who literally called parts of law enforcement the KKK.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: I'd like somebody to ask her some questions about that.
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  Speaker 3: What did you mean when you said that? Or do
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: you have a different position now that you want to
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: be the governor of the state of Ohio? Because I
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: certainly do not think that law enforcement officers are the KKK.
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  Speaker 3: So now she's playing this role of I am a victim.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: I want you to vote for me, but I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to answer any of your questions about my public policy.
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  Speaker 3: No way.
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  Speaker 1: No way. Well, she would come on this program because
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: I'd ask those exact same questions. But, you see, that's
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: exactly what Vivek would do. I mean, he'd be on
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  Speaker 1: a stage with her, he'd be explaining his policies and platforms,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: and she could contrast hers with his, and then we
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: get to decide who makes a better argument and who's
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: got a better idea. Just not happening. So we're left
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: to speculate. We have no idea what she would do.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, we know in her role as medical director
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: what she did and the harm that that brought about,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: but then she quit. I mean, like just walked off
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: the job, which apparently she's got a history of doing
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: that as well.
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  Speaker 3: That's correct. And I want to remind your listening audience
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: and your voters across the state of Ohio to remind
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: them that, look, if she were to win, they're going
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: to use the state of Ohio as a launching pad
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  Speaker 3: for all of their social experiments.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, sure.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: Meaning they're going to go and invite this guy, Abdul Saeed.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: He'll be sitting at the governor's mansion. They'll invite the
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: AOC lady from New York because she'll be running for president.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: This Alon Omar, she'll be at the governor's mansion. I'm
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: sharing with you it will be a who's who of
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: communist and socialist guests that are at the statehouse. It
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: will be such an embarrassment. This is one of those
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: most consequential elections, and that's why I'm so passionate about it,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: to send the message that people have to take action.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: What is this simple action? Show up and vote in droves.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: Don't listen to what the polls are telling you. Make
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: your voice be heard, Brian Thomas. That's what we do.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: And this notion that Republicans aren't showing up and independents...
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: And blue dog Democrats aren't showing up to say, no,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: I'm voting my country, right? The reality of it is,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: is Republicans don't do polls. They just don't call me
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: and ask me how I'm going to vote, when I'm
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: going to vote. It's none of your business. and still
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: the state of Ohio is a small-town state. Those people
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: are going to vote on Election Day. They're going to
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: walk right down to their library or walk right down
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: to their schools where they've been voting for the last
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: 50 years with their spouses, with their children, with their grandkids,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: and they're going to rock the vote on November the 3rd.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: That is what is about to happen. And that's why
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: the polling is so off, because they're only polling the
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: other side, Brian Thomas. That's what's... Ohio will remain red.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know who's going to win and who's going
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: to lose, but Ohio will remain red.
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  Speaker 1: I love your optimism, Christopher. Here's one more reason for
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: my listening audience to vote. I think if I had
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: to guess, Christopher, and I think it's the case, most
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: of my listening audience is not exactly happy with Mike DeWine.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Who's DeWine defending and who's DeWine distancing himself from? I mean,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: he basically withdrew his endorsement for Rama Swami the other
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: day after this whole non-issue became an issue. When he
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: asked about his, you know, you endorsed the entire Republican ticket,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: he said, yes, I did. He goes, well, now he's like, well,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: with the exception of certain of them. I'm only endorsing
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: the ones I worked with, which was clearly directed at
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Vivek Ramaswamy. So, you know, if you don't like Governor DeWine,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: are you angry with him for the positions he's taken
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: during his period of time in the statehouse or in
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: the governor's mansion? Then, you know, go ahead and vote
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Ramaswamy just to piss DeWine off. How's that for a reason, Christopher?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: Well, here's what I will say to voters, right? You
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: and I talked about this, you know, I guess it
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: was two months ago, right, that they were going to
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: have the Jerry Maguire moment, that they're searching for whatever
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: to distract us. For them, it ended up being the
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: commercial in the state of Ohio. They just thought that
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: that was going to be that moment, whoever it is.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: What we have to do is stay away from the distraction.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: and focus our family and friends to rocking the vote. Like,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: we should be early voting. People should be out voting
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: on Election Day and make sure that we send the
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: message that we're not going to look like Virginia, right,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: and have all these regrets on Wednesday that we didn't
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: show up and participate in the process. And let me
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: also say, I want to emphasize, the things that the
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: Democrats have said about the Republican candidates, you know, they're
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: racist or... The things they've said about the current president,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: whether you like him or you don't like him, my
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: statement is a true statement. The things that they've said
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: about him are horrific. The assassination attempts and the mockeries
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: after the assassination attempts by the Democratic Party, they just
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: don't have any space in my mind. to sit back
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: and talk about the commercial. That's really what I want
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: to emphasize to you, that they should not be sitting
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: back with this fake outrage, knowing what they've been doing
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: over the last two years, or maybe even over the
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: last 10 years. Pause.
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  Speaker 1: We'll continue with Christopher Smith with this edition of the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Smith event. After I mentioned.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: 75KRC, the talk.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Station. 741, the 55KRC, the talk station. Brian Thomas with
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Christopher Smith event. Regular feature here on the 55KRC Morning Show.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Not a regular feature after the top of the hour news.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: A full hour with Signal 99 in the studio, mostly
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: about Judge Bloom and the magistrate, or rather Judge Bloom
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: and the juvenile court. Things have really spiraled out of
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: control under her responsibility. So we'll talk with that. Coming
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: up after Christopher Smithman. You got more on your mind, Christopher,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: I'm sure of that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to conclude our conversation that the
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: main reason that Vivek Ramaswamy's opponent doesn't want to have
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: a real discussion is about the public policy, meaning so
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: you distract and you deflect. So that's why there's a
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: whole discussion about something that's a bunch of nonsense, this
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: fake outrage, is because ultimately what you, Brian, and I,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: and your listening audience and Ohioans care about is her
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: public policy. And for whatever reason, we can't dig down
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: and figure out what that is. And Democrats don't care.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: They just see the D, they're voting the D, and
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter whether Vivek Ramaswamy is
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: the most qualified person to be the next governor from
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: their perspective. He's just not a D, and they're not
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: heading in that direction. And what most voters like me
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: an independent who falls on the conservative side. I'm worried
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: about communism and socialism, and I'm just not interested in
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: electing people that hold those views. So I want to
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: also say that Chief Washington has won big, 19-0. The
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: appellate court has said we're not going to hear the case.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: This is now going back to Judge Cole at the
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: federal court, and Judge Cole is going to say, listen,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: here's where we are. We've gone through this for four years.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: You have appealed. You've hired every private law firm possible,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: costing taxpayers millions of dollars. Now it has been settled
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: that all of my rulings, I'm talking about Judge Cole,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: the lower court, everything that I've said has been upheld.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: You have nowhere to go. So now this is about settlement.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: This is about how much money you're going to pay
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: or is it going to be a jury trial around
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: not the facts.
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  Speaker 6: This is important.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: The facts now are no longer about Anything other than this,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: it's been found that he was wrongfully terminated.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: Well, and just one of the two we're going to
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: be dealing with in the city of Cincinnati, Police Chief
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Fiji is probably going to be teeing hers up at
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: no time.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: 100% she's going to tee it up. I mean, why
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: wouldn't she tee it up? She's going through the administrative hearing,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: meaning they've learned. And now they are saying, hey, we've
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: got to take her through this administrative hearing before we
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: say she can't have her job. But at the end
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: of the day, all the things that they said that
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: hurt her, whatever they were, the wrongful termination, there's still
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: going to be some settlement for Chief Fiji. So everything
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: that I've been communicating over the years have now come
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: to be totally true. All the lies that they've been saying,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: a matter of fact, even the appellate court, and I
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: think Signal 99 will talk in detail about it most likely,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: is that the appellate court literally said that the city
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: manager did not tell the truth. And she didn't even
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: take the advice of her attorney. So stay tuned. I
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: don't know when the conference between the lawyers are going
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: to happen. I don't have any visibility on that. I
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: just know that Chief Washington is now even closer to
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: a massive settlement based on what the city did to him.
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  Speaker 3: And I believe that his reputation should be just lifted
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: up and we should be saying the great things that
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: he is because he's applied for approximately 21 jobs and
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: hasn't gotten those jobs because of what's happening here in
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: the city of Cincinnati. And I just think that is terrible.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is not a reflection on his competence
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: to be a police or a fire chief elsewhere. It
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: has always come down to, from everything I've heard and
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: during my minimalist conversations with the man, that they cite
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: this ongoing problem that why he can't get hired or
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: it wasn't hired. It's not because he lacks qualifications. He's
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: eminently qualified. It's just this is hanging over his head.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: And going back to Cheryl Long, you mentioned that she
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: had voted or rather ignored the advice of her attorney.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: She's got the solicitor's office. After six months on the job,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: it says in black and white he is entitled to
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: an administrative hearing, and yet he was denied one. I mean,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: that in and of itself sealed her fate, didn't it, Christopher?
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: It did.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: It totally did. It totally did. And this notion that
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: he wasn't covered or wasn't protected or there shouldn't have
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: been a process after six months of him being on
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: the job outside of the probation. I think he'd been
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: the chief for two years. That clearly her lawyers went and.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 6: Said, hey, city manager, you can't do this.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: She said, I'm going to do it anyway. And so
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: I just want voters to know as they go out
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: and vote, because this is connected. These are the kind
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: of things that cost us the taxpayers. It's not like they're.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: Paying the bill, ultimately.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: You and you and I and the taxpayers, anybody that
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: is paying that income tax or doing business in the
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: city of Cincinnati, we.
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  Speaker 6: Ultimately are the ones that will be paying that bill.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm saying... The elections, whether I'm talking about the one,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: the midterm elections coming up, this should be firing up,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: in my opinion.
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  Speaker 6: Voters in Cincinnati to come out.
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  Speaker 3: And say, hey, we just can't take it anymore. And
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: we've got to make sure we're putting competent people at
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: all levels of government. The last point I want to
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: make is the violence in the city. Why do I
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: have to go to Signal 99 and setting up your commercial,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: your next interview with Signal 99, why do I have
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: to go to that website to figure out what's going
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: on in the city of Cincinnati? Meaning the major TV
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: stations did not cover the drive-by. Meaning I'm looking on
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: Signal 99 and I'm going, what? These two cars are
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: shooting out of their window? Guess what? You can't find it.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: in the news, anywhere, right? You would think in a
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: normal way, they would be showing that video on TV
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: so everybody could see it. Do you know why they
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: don't do it? Because they're trying to hide the football
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: like Charlie Brown. We're in the middle of an election
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: and they don't want safety between now and November to
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: be on the ballot. And I understand that my safety
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: is on the ballot, meaning the next governor has a
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: lot of authority, right? Whether it's Faber, who's running for
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: attorney general, or whether it is governor, soon to be
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: governor Vivek Ramaswamy, they have a lot of assets that
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: they can bring to bear in order to make sure
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: that we hold criminals in our cities, in our urban cities,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: mostly accountable. So I hate to act like I'm pushing
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: a conspiracy, but I believe that they're suppressing this kind
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: of stuff on purpose. And if it wasn't for Signal 99,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: I certainly wouldn't know about it. I wouldn't have the
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: information that there was a drive-by in our city where
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: people were shooting outside their car right before the election.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: But those are the kind of things that tell voters, hey, man,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: I need to get out here and participate, Brian Thomas.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: Well, without question, although, you know, I think if you
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: poll the people in the greater Cincinnati area and a
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: variety of different neighborhoods, they're painfully aware of the violence
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: that's going on. If you hear gunshots so often that
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: you just ignore them because they happen so frequently, that
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: is an awareness perhaps that more people have than Maybe
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: our media partners out in the world are giving credit
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: because I presume like all media outlets, the local media
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: is very liberal and they have no interest in perpetuating
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: a narrative that isn't, well, favorable to the current purely
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: Democrat administration in the city of Cincinnati and, of course,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: in Hamilton County.
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  Speaker 3: No question about it. No question about it. And when
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: you continue to just connect the dots, whether we're talking
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: about Chief Fiji or Chief Washington, right, or the beatdown
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: that happened a year and a half ago, as one example,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: or just the random violence, meaning I got so frustrated, Brian,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: when they started trying to measure crime within the murder rate.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: That is the worst way, right, to say crime is
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: down because murders are down. First of all, every murder
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: is horrible. The petty stuff that's happening, the breaking into cars,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: the assaults, and the number of people that are being
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: shot are shot at, right? Those numbers are through the roof,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: and we have to recognize it. And there are specific neighborhoods,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: which I don't want to mention, but there are specific neighborhoods,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: we know where they are, that are being overwhelmed with
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: that random shooting or those random assaults or those break-ins
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: in their cars. are break-ins in their homes. You and
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: I know that they're happening across our 52 neighborhoods in
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: the city of Cincinnati. And if they're happening there, Brian Thomas,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: because of this movement of defund the police, underfund them,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: reimagine them, no support for law enforcement. That's why the
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: other candidate running against Vivek Ramaswamy called some portion of
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: law enforcement the KKK. And by the way, just so
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: people understand, I happen to be a black American. My
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: family happens to be from the South. My grandfather, Papa,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: my grandfather, Granddaddy Otis, his church was burned down by
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: the KKK. My grandfather had a gun in every single
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: corner in his house when I visited him. And he said,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: we might have a visit. I was born in 1967.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: We might have a visitor and it could be the KKK.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: He was always worried about that as a child. And
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: he taught me how to shoot, what window to go to,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: where to be prepared if that domestic terrorist group showed
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: up to his farm. So I am offended when I
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: hear Amy Atkin comparing law enforcement to a domestic terrorist
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: organization and calling them the KKK. It absolutely makes her
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: a person that no one in the state of Ohio
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: should be voting for.
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  Speaker 1: Amen. It brought back your childhood trauma, Christopher. We can't
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: have politicians doing things like that. Christopher Smithman, God love you, man.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: I love you, man.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: Thank you, brother. Take care. Follow me on X, at
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: Vote Smithman. Thanks for your time, Brian Thomas, and I'll
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: see you next Monday.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: Always a patient. 806 here at 55KRC, the talk station.
• 1:18:45
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• 1:18:47
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• 1:18:50
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• 1:18:54
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• 1:18:56
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• 1:19:00
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• 1:19:03
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• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure having you on.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: Good morning. Thanks for having me on.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: Of course, pineapple being the operative word substituting for any
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: FCC noncompliant word. In that particular case, it was some
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: form of word meaning excrement. But Signal 99, I had
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Steve Gooden on the program. Let's start before we get
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: to Judge Bloom. And we've got a lot to unpackage
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: with her, don't we? The verdict in the Hinton Jr.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: Case.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to get your reaction on it because
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Steve Gooden broke it down and it seems like it's inconsistent.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: How can you be guilty of reckless homicide and also
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: murder at the same time when one has an intent element,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: which we murder. Reckless homicide is like, whoops, I accidentally
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: killed somebody being reckless. Didn't mean to kill him, but
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: did anyway. And of course you can go to prison
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: for that as well, but not nearly as long. Your
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: reaction to the overall Signal 99?
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: Well, I know Clyde is, filing everything he can to
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: get this, get this fixed. So I'm just waiting. I'm
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: just going to sit and wait, see what happens. And
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: I really, I'm interested to see what judge Lubbers does
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: on the 16th.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: As am I, I, and I'm with Steve. I don't
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: know how you can reconcile those two. You know, he
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: didn't intend it. He did intend it. That's just, I
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: don't think it's possible to reconcile. So, My guess is
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: probably it would be a retrial, but it will never
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: get to retrial. He'll end up copping a plea, and
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: the family will be very, very disappointed. The family of
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: the deputy will be very disappointed in the final outcome.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: If I had to guess, I'd go that way.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: Well, the reckless homicide were the lesser charges that they
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: took with underneath the aggravated murder charges.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 5: So instead of finding them guilty of aggravated murder, which
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: would have essentially given him life without parole, okay? They
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: chose the lesser charge of reckless homicide, which, in my opinion, um.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: I....
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: You know what, it's just a big mess.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: It is a mess. I guess, do you think that's,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: Clyde Bennett goes in, I think, kind of midstream and
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: asks for this second, this lesser included offense of reckless homicide,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: arguing that, well, he was trying to commit suicide, and
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: that would form a basis for reckless homicide. In the
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: process of trying to kill himself, he accidentally ran in
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: to Deputy Henderson. So what I read in the guilty
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: of reckless homicide that they've bought into that nonsensical argument
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: signal 99 because that's the only conclusion I can reach
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: I don't think so at all because the whole he
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: hit the pole first thing and that firefighters cookie wife
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: that testified how many poles were there he could have
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: hit before the one with Debris Henderson I mean and
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: if you look at the video it's just simply not
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: true right so no, the whole thing to me has
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: been just a big circus from the beginning. From Heidi
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: Rosales appointing herself as first chair without that experience. She
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: had no experience with a felony murder trial like this.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: Pure hubris, okay? Pure hubris. And then just the Just
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: the idiocy of the stuff that Clyde just kept throwing. Okay, well,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 5: if you won't bite on the insanity, then let's try
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: the whole suicidal. And I mean, the whole thing's been
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: laughable from the prosecution to everything the defense has done,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 5: except for the closing argument. Kate gave a fabulous closing argument.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: The rest of the trial that the prosecutor's office did
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: was trash.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: Would you place any blame at Connie Pillich's feet on
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: this one, Signal 99?
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, I have, and I will, and I will continue
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: to do it. And you know what? I said the
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: question last week, is this all by design?
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: Well, the whole idea that some prosecutor beneath The prosecutor,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: Connie Pillich, could actually self-appoint without Connie having any particular
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: say in that matter, which is how it sounded. I
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: find that a little hard to believe unless she wanted
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: someone with less experience or very limited experience to try
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: this case.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, that's what happens when you take over
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 5: an office that you're not capable of running. You have
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: no idea how to do it. You just ran for
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: it as a stepping stone in your little career through
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: politics and You wanted to become the first liberal female
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 5: prosecutor in Hamilton County in almost 100 years. Yeah, okay,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: you did it. Good for you. But the first thing
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: she did was fire the most seasoned, most capable prosecutors,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 5: which caused the rest of them to leave like a
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 5: herd of elephants. They trumpled out of there. They were gone.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 5: And then luckily for her, Pete Meyer agreed to stay on,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: I believe, until May, until he retired. So he kind
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: of helped her get, you know, transition into that office.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 5: But after he was gone, I mean, she had nothing
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 5: but a bunch of assistant prosecutors that had her same
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: ideology or close to it. And her ideology is in
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: lockstep with Bloom's. We need to put less men in prison,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: especially if they're men of color. And that simply isn't
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: going to fly. I mean, it doesn't work. It's not fair.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: There's no justice. And she's not a big fan of
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 5: cops anyway. But she can't totally alienate them either. So
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 5: this this is perfect the way the Hinton thing turned out.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: And so that's exactly, if they do have to toss
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: this out, okay, that's exactly what she'll do. She'll take some,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 5: I said, she'll, he'll get, he'll end up getting some
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: sweetheart deal. And she'll say, it's just too risky to
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 5: retry him. He could risk going free. He could, you know,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 5: and this way, She doesn't lose, she thinks, she doesn't
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 5: lose face. She has already lost face. I mean, the
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 5: police officers in Hamilton County are already disgusted. Yes.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: So, what are you.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 5: Going to do?
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: I guess maybe we should use this as a cautionary
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: tale when you elect a prosecutor who doesn't have experience
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: for the office, hasn't tried any cases, and really doesn't
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: understand the criminal justice system, which is how I'm boiling
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: down Connie Pillage. Maybe we should take that into account
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: when we're considering who we're going to vote for for governor. Yeah,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: there's something to be said.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 5: You know, people have been just ripping me to shreds
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 5: over Amy Acton because I said, she locked us down
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 5: during COVID. I mean, she told us we were murderers
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: if we'd leave our house. And I've had so many
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 5: people go, you know what, you idiot? It was DeWine
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: that locked down. And I said, Amy Acton locked down
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: the country, you genius. She stood up there with Fauci
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 5: every single day and locked down the country. And the
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 5: last time I checked, Ohio was part of the United States.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: Well, and somebody thinks DeWine is responsible. Where did Mike
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: DeWine get his medical degree or his degree in virology
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: that he could come up with the idea that we
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: need to lock schools down to deal with a pandemic disease? No,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: that was Amy Acton giving him advice, and he took it.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: And while the buck may have stopped at his desk,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: she's the one who made the decision, by all accounts,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: from everything I've read. I mean, that's just where we are,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: isn't it?
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that video that I posted, I
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: don't know if you saw it, over Labor Day weekend
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: when she was at Stricker's Grove, where her people actually
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: pushed this guy and were screaming at him, no pictures,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: no questions, no pictures, no questions, because he was trying
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 5: to ask her why she wouldn't debate the event. in
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: a public place, they were telling him they were screaming,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: no pictures, no questions. And I, I was like, wow.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: It's so, I mean, this is who she is. And
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: this is, so a lot of people are like, well, I,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't know, this is nice and whatever,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 5: you know, you're, you're going to vote for an independent
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: that cannot win and essentially throw your vote away. Um,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: And end up letting Amy Acton be our governor. Because
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: the Republican Party is so split right now. Intentionally, it
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: was all intentional to split the Republican Party. But, you know,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: people need to wake up and realize. And I believe,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm all about vote for who you want.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: This is America.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to tell you who you have to
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 5: vote for or you're dumb if you vote for this person.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: But I will say this. We are still a two-party
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: system and in a race like a governor's race, a
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 5: gubernatorial race, an independent simply cannot win. Cannot. Not right now.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: I'm with you all day long. This is why I've
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: been singing the same or pounding the same drumbeat as
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: everybody else who's in on this. Look, hold your nose
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: and vote for the Republican, whether you like him or not,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: whether that person is in line with all of your
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: interests or not. It's the only choice and only hope
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: we have as we move forward. Governor Acton, bad idea.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: Really bad idea. Don't go away, Signal 99. We're going
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: to talk about the juvenile court, Judge Bloom, and the
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: concept of, and you touched upon it a little bit already,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: reparative justice. See the talk station. 820-55-CARE, see the talk station.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas with Signal 99. Going to pivot over to
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: Judge Bloom. bloom juvenile court judge bloom who apparently has
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: a problem the department of youth services i listen i'm
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: looking at the youth services page this sounds to me
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: exactly where troubled youths need to believe you know they're
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: calling it prison but what do they do they get
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: engaged in programming designed to address their criminological and behavioral
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: needs their facilities operate all year round they offer a
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: general high school curriculum and vocational opportunities listen it's part
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: rehab there. It's not just punishment and locking somebody in
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: a cell. Why would you want to keep a troubled
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: youth out of something that's designed to get them on
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: the right track? Signal 99. Are you there?
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: I'm here. Can you hear me now?
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: I can.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: Sorry. Um, Ken Cobra is supposed to be joining me.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 5: So we were, we were going to be, um, Tag
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 5: teaming it. The evil Siamese twins from Lady and the Tramp.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: Wow. But anyway, when I was a kid, you knew
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: if you got in trouble, you were going. I mean,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 5: you were going to juvenile hall, which was a big deal.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 5: You know, baby jail, whatever you want to call it. Um,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 5: and you were going to be disgraced by your disgrace,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 5: your family by going and, um, you know, you were
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 5: going to have all the cops would know you're a
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 5: hardened criminal or, or they could sentence you to community service.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 5: And where I'm from, that meant you had to wash
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 5: the police cars and the fire trucks in front of everybody. Um,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 5: you know, down at city hall. So you had to
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: wear these, these little blazer, these yellow blazers that, you know,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 5: the traffic, where.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: The, there was a certain shame associated with being convicted
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: as a juvenile for, for some crime.
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  Speaker 5: So if you got caught shoplifting, it wasn't enough to
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 5: send you to juvie, but it wasn't enough to make
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 5: you wash fire engines in front of everybody. And if
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 5: you got caught again, guess where you went? Juvie.
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  Speaker 3: Juvie.
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  Speaker 1: DYS?
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  Speaker 5: They didn't say, oh, well, you didn't learn your lesson
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 5: the first time by being humiliated by washing fire engines
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 5: in front of everybody and having your name in the
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 5: paper because your name went in the paper, juvenile or not.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: They didn't care. And everybody knew. I mean, I'm from
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: a small community, of course, obviously, but everybody was.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: Like, oh, my God.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 5: But the second time you got caught shoplifting, you went
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 5: to juvie. Um, and you didn't want to go back there.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 5: It wasn't fun. They didn't even have TV. Um, it
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 5: was literally, you have to study, uh, and do work
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: on your schoolwork. You're missing schoolwork packets. And, um, you know,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: you eat and you sit in your cells and then
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 5: you get this much time outside and that's it. That's
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 5: what juvie is supposed to be. It's not supposed to
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 5: be a fun place where you and your friends hang
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 5: out and play PlayStation and, um, whip off and just
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 5: hang out. So that's not what juvie is supposed to be.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 5: It's not supposed to be terrifying either. You shouldn't have
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: to worry about being raped in juvie. You shouldn't have
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 5: to be worried about being beat up, but, but, today's
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 5: juvenile hall is a lot different. There's a lot of cameras.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of CEOs. You know, they're paying attention.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 5: You know, they're making sure these kids don't get hurt
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 5: and murdered. But, you know, like the kids that keep
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: getting jumped in the transport vans, you know, because of
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 5: Bloom's stupid rules that they can't pull over and they
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: can't have a guard riding in the back with them, okay,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 5: somebody's going to get killed.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 5: But, you know, really, Jude, you know, Bloom claims that
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: she's doing all this to help them. She's not helping them.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 5: She's getting them killed.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: Well, there have to be consequences for their actions. This
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: is the reason we have a criminal justice system. She's
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: pretending as if the Department of Youth Services, where they
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: go to get rehabilitated, at least in part, she's pretending
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: like it doesn't even exist. You talk about recidivists, she
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: has juveniles in front of her that have been in
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: front of her multiple, multiple times, and yet nobody ever
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: gets the message. Well, at least Bloom doesn't get the message.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: She doesn't sentence them over to DYS. She lets them go.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think three years ago I made a meme
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: of her saying, I am once again sentencing you to
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: probation for violating your probation.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. That's.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: It may have been a mean Signal 99, but it's
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: damn accurate based upon the inside information you got from
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: your guest contributor over and over again with multiple illustrations.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe we can dive in a few of those and
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: also address the stuff of the rules based on beliefs
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: of historical restorative justice that have dominated the landscape over
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: in Hamilton County now for a while. That's exactly what
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: leads to this. Not holding juveniles accountable for their crimes and,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: of course, creating recidivist criminals who become adults. and end
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: up in adult courts. 826, more with Signal 99. Don't
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: go away. Be right back. 55KRC.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: 55KRC, the talk station.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: It's 829, 55KRC, the talk station. She brings the receipts.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: She is the voice of Signal 99, which is a
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: collective of individuals involved in, well, county police and fire and,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: of course, the dispatch office, et cetera. They feed her information. She,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: of course, passes along. Or you get the information yourself.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: Signal 99, real quick, Christopher Smith was really perturbed that
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: you were the only person, including all media outlets apparently,
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: to post the video of that drive-by shooting that happened
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: over the weekend. I guess we have a problem with
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: local media as well, but I guess we kind of
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: swirl around that. How did you end up with that
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: video real quick? I was curious.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: I can't say.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: All I can say, yeah, I can't. I really can't.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 5: I don't give it my sources ever. And I gave
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 5: my word to the person that I would not. However,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 5: if the media were to reach out to me and
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: ask if they could have contact with the owner of
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 5: the video, I would be able to get a hold
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: of them and allow the media to get a hold
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: of that video if they were interested. But as you
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: can plainly tell, no reporters have reached out to me yet.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: But they know about you. It's not like they're not
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: familiar with you, the entity that is the face for
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: Signal 99. They go over there and look at what
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: you post on Facebook, too. I just don't bother to
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: report it or pass it along. But here's another one
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: you got inside.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: Oh, they look at it all the time.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 5: They call me. They text me. They message me quite frequently.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: And I do work with some of the media and
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: with the rest of it. Some of them I don't.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 5: Like the inquirer, I would eat my own eyes with
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 5: a spoon before I would give them something. So I'd
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: rather put out a campfire with my face.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: There you are. We get that. For whatever reason, Judge
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: Bloom in the municipal court doesn't have any problem with
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: juveniles carrying concealed weapons. I thought we had a gun problem.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: We have a violence problem. We have shootings happening all
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 5: She wins gun owners for that. That's all the gun owners' fault.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 5: You know what else she has a problem with? Convicting
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 5: a juvenile of a sex crime and labeling them a
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 5: sex offender. She refuses to do it.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 5: She has actually reversed a magistrate's adjudications on sex crimes.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 5: She's done that more than once. She does not want
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 5: them labeled sex offender. And given the policies of sex offender,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 5: she's kind of made her own policies.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: Wow, because I'm no psychiatrist or psychologist, Signal 99, but
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: I've read over and over again that people who are
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: inclined to commit sex offenses usually are recidivists.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, because it's a crime of power and control. So basically,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 5: essentially what she's saying to a young rapist is, you know,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 5: go ahead. We're not going to hold you as accountable
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 5: as we should. We're going to keep you out on
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: the street and allow you to rack up more victims.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: So she's crazy, okay? I'm going to just say it.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 5: Nobody else wants to say it. She's a lunatic that
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 5: is literally destroying everything in Hamilton County with the crime,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: with her BS policies and her ideology. And Scary Carrie
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 5: is also one of the most vindictive, manipulative pineapples I've
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 5: never met. Because she continually files... That's why Ken Coburn
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: was going to be on the show with me this morning.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: He was going to verify all of this. She continually
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 5: files complaints through Adam Henney, or she has Britt Bourne
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 5: or somebody else in her office continually file complaints against
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: police officers, even about Signal 99. She is one of
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 5: the reasons why officers have been yarded into Internal Affairs...
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 5: and accused of being sources to Signal 99. And I'm
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 5: going to tell you, the officers are tired of it.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 5: Ken Coburn's tired of it. And frankly, I'm tired of it.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: So I'm sorry that Adam Henney's such a weak little
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 5: pineapple that he lets Carrie Bloom and Iris Rowley tell
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 5: him what to do all day long, along with Cheryl Long.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 5: Three completely incompetent women are running... Adam Henney. And yeah,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 5: I said it and I'll say it again. You know,
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 5: they're manipulating an interim police chief into doing things to
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 5: me that are an abuse of power. You don't get
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 5: to just use IA and the intelligence division to to
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 5: investigate somebody because Carrie Bloom said, you don't get to
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 5: recall the entire FAU unit to go find Carrie Bloom's
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 5: stolen vehicle. Scary Carrie's out of control. She filed complaints
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 5: against officers on her panel when she went to seek
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 5: the FOP endorsement. She knew she wasn't going to get
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 5: the endorsement, and then she turned around and filed complaints
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 5: and said that they were rude to her and asked
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 5: her inappropriate questions. I mean, she's a psycho.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 5: She's perfectly suited for the month of October, Brian. What
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 5: do you think?
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: More with Signal 99 on that note. It's going to
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: let that sit there for all to absorb.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry for the rant.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. This is one of the reasons I
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: love you. This is the Talk Station Runtime with Signal 99.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: Just go to Facebook and type in Signal 99 and
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: then follow. She and the crew posting, well, shenanigans declarations
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: every single day. You mentioned Judge Blum. We're talking about
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: Juvenile Court Judge Blum and what's going on in her court.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: She is obviously not interested in holding young people accountable.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: Of course, know that they never, ever, ever being held accountable.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: They tend to get involved in the criminal justice system
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: more and more and continuing into their adulthood. But you
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: mentioned her personal vehicle being stolen. My listening audience may
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: not be familiar with the details of that. She called
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: Chief Haney after her vehicle was stolen in June of 26th.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: And Henny sent 11 Fugitive Apprehension Unit personnel on overtime?
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 5: He recalled them. He recalled them. They were on full
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 5: overtime to do it. And I put in the public
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 5: records request for the Kronos time clock that showed the
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 5: overtime that they were paid looking for her car. And
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: the city denied my request and said that they didn't
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 5: have to give it to me because the FAU is
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 5: a specialized unit, blah, blah, blah. And I said... I'm
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 5: not looking for their names. I don't want the names
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 5: of the FAU. You can certainly redact all of it.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 5: And I said that in my request. You can redact
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 5: out all the names.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 4: I don't care.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 5: I just want to know what the total cost in
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 5: overtime was for, you know, two lieutenants and nine FAU
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 5: members to be recalled to go to Dayton to look
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 5: for her car. And they refused to give it to me.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: Now, this charge that she has, Hennie, drop everything and
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: utilize intelligence in IA to open cases and investigate officers
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: that she doesn't like. Are you suggesting there's no probable
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: cause to believe anything has gone wrong? These officers haven't
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: done anything that is necessarily untoward, illegal, or against police policy?
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: She just has the records gone through?
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 5: Listen, the stuff that the officers have given me, like
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 5: the Bloom's unofficial docket, that's a public record. They didn't get,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 5: they didn't send me classified documents. I haven't interfered in
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 5: any investigations. I haven't interfered criminally in any, and I
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 5: would never interfere criminally. A lot of times I get
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 5: stuff and I have to sit on it and wait
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 5: because it's active and I can't say or do anything
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 5: because it'll mess it up. So I have to sit
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 5: on it and I'm a responsible person. I'm ethical. I
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 5: have integrity and I do not lie. So, yes, I
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 5: do that. And here's the thing. Investigating officers through intelligence
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 5: to find out who's talking to me, what, what, you know, what, what, what.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 5: And then sending them to IA. Or Henny's even just
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 5: had IA yard a bunch of officers in there because
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 5: he thought, he heard that they were linked to Signal 99.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: And a couple of those guys didn't even have social
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 5: media and had no idea what they were talking about.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 5: You know, they're they're yarded and they're pulled out a
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 5: roll call and humiliated by I.A. and sent to I.A.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 5: And then they sit there and they ask them stupid
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 5: questions about, you know, their connection to Signal 99. And
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 5: that's not fair. Of course, they're Red Garrity. They have
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 5: to tell the truth. So, you know, a couple of
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 5: them have said, yeah. I talked to her and I'll
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 5: talk to her again.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: They're allowed to have a social life outside of police work.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't like they're spending valuable police officer
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: hours hanging out with you at a bar or something.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: That's not the allegation. It's just that they simply talk
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: to you.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 5: Right. And they don't have a right. This isn't 1940s Germany,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 5: but that's exactly the way Henny is running this department
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 5: right now. through fear and intimidation, it's a flex is
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 5: what it is. It's a don't talk to Signal 99
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 5: or you could end up in front of IA. It's
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 5: a flex. And let me tell you what, it's had
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 5: the opposite effect. So good job there, Kenny. The rank
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 5: and file is just even more inclined to not consider you...
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 5: the person that they want leading their department. The person
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 5: they used to respect a year ago, they had nothing
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 5: but respect and hope. They liked Henny. They thought he
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 5: was going to do a great job. He started out strong,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 5: and they thought, okay, here's the chief that is going
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: to turn us loose and let us do our job
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 5: and not care what the mayor says. No, not a chance.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe that's why he's still interim. he's capitulating and
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: bending to her will, their will, the collective, because he
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: ultimately wants to be named a permanent chief. I guess
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: we've got to resolve the police chief Fiji issues before
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: that can happen. But is that what the, is that
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: why he's capitulating and not standing up for his officer?
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 5: Well, he, he definitely wants the, you know, he definitely
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 5: wants the job, but.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 5: It's possible because look at North college Hill. They kept that, that,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 5: I can't say the word that bleep weasel, um, Cheney
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 5: as interim chief for so long, Cheney went in and
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 5: lied to council and said, according to the ORC, once
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 5: I've been the interim chief for six months straight, you
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 5: have to make me the chief, which is not true.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 5: It was a bald face. The ORC does not say that.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 5: And they're a city. They have, they're supposed to be
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 5: complying to civil service standards, which they don't. But anyways, um,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 5: I'm hearing that they quietly made Cheney the permanent chief.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 5: So who knows? I mean, I don't put anything past
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 5: the idiocy of the city of Cincinnati or the city
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 5: of North College Hill. But I just want to say,
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 5: back to Bloom, she does all these things and nobody
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 5: can hold her accountable. I mean, there was a prosecutor
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 5: earlier this year that did that has overturned her five
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 5: times at the Supreme court. You know what bloom did
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 5: bloom called pillage and said, I don't want her to
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 5: be the chief juvenile prosecutor anymore. Get her out of
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 5: my courtroom. And you know what Connie pillage did? She
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 5: ordered her into the office and said, you either have
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 5: to become, um, you have to go to civil. Well,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 5: actually Heidi Rosales and Connie Polish did it, but, uh,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 5: Connie Pellich said, you've got to go to civil or
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 5: we're going to terminate you. And this prosecutor said, Oh
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 5: my God, I've never worked anything, but I don't know what,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know what to do in civil. And she said, well,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 5: I'm going to give you two days of administrative paid
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 5: leave to think about it. And then, you know, you
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 5: need to give me your decision. And so, uh, you know,
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 5: as she was leaving, you know, Heidi Rosales, um, had
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 5: a brief interaction with her. Um, Heidi Rosales is the
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 5: one that had the conversation with her about, you have
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 5: to go to civil.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: But not qualified to go to civil because she had
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: only been in juvenile. So she wasn't qualified for that role.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: And ultimately she was terminated. Am I right?
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 5: Correct. And then, you know why she was terminated? Because
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 5: Heidi Rosales told Connie, I didn't really like her tone.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 5: She had a tone with me.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 5: She had kind of an attitude.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: But also for doing her job and overturning Bloom and appealing, correct?
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 6: Correct.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 5: So they fired her. They fired her and.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 5: You know, she's just one of many victims that have
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 5: no voice in the juvenile criminal justice system, and it's sad.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: Including the families of the victims, and Marcy's loss seems
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  Speaker 1: to be just not even an afterthought in juvenile court.
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  Speaker 1: We can talk about that one more with.
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  Speaker 2: Talk Station.
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  Speaker 1: 850-55-KRC, the Talk Station. Happy Monday. Brian Thomas with Signal 99,
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  Speaker 1: focusing on the juvenile court system. We have a choice.
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  Speaker 1: We can continue down this crazy, woke reality that's going
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  Speaker 1: on in juvenile court. Or we can elect Lukin, Magistrate Lukin,
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  Speaker 1: and she has promised to be, well, a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more tough on these juveniles who appear to need it.
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  Speaker 1: Second of 99, Bloom released a repeat violent offender. This
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  Speaker 1: one we talked about before. Before the negotiated plea deal
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  Speaker 1: commitment was supposed to end, a year before. She does
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  Speaker 1: it all the time, Brian.
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  Speaker 5: She does it all the time, and she's abused the
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  Speaker 5: unofficial docket. She's changed it, and she abuses that to
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  Speaker 5: where the victims can't veto, the prosecutors can't veto. With
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  Speaker 5: previous administrative judges, if somebody vetoed or objected, it automatically
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  Speaker 5: went to the official docket. That's not the case with Bloom,
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  Speaker 5: and another big thing Under Bloom is if you had
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  Speaker 5: cases on the shelf already on the unofficial docket and
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  Speaker 5: you committed another crime, it automatically all of them moved
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  Speaker 5: to the actual docket and you got tried for everything
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  Speaker 5: all at once. Boom, boom, boom. So and Bloom refuses
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  Speaker 5: to do that.
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  Speaker 1: But we have Marcy's law in the state, which gives
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  Speaker 1: victims rights. And if you have a court, I see
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing. That's why I'm going there, because. This person,
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  Speaker 1: in one illustration of many, apparently, as you suggest, they
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  Speaker 1: negotiated a plea deal, which included a period of commitment,
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  Speaker 1: which concluded a period of probation. Prosecutors, victims, defendant agree.
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  Speaker 1: A year ahead of that negotiated commitment, she lets them
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  Speaker 1: out over the objections of victims, as I understand. So
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  Speaker 1: She doesn't appreciate that we have a law approved by 83%
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  Speaker 1: of the voters in 2017 that requires victims' notification and
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  Speaker 1: say in this type of thing?
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  Speaker 5: That would be correct. Whoa. Huh.
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  Speaker 1: I would argue that sounds to me like it should
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  Speaker 1: be grounds for removal from the bench.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Brian, I've been kind of saying that for years.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's troubling. And then this idea of restorative justice,
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  Speaker 1: is this, as I understand it, you treat minority defendants
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  Speaker 1: in your courtroom and give them more lenient treatment because
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  Speaker 1: of historical injustice, slavery?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, yes. It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand how you connect the dots.
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  Speaker 5: And if you guys want to call me a racist
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  Speaker 5: for saying restorative justice, not you. Not you, the kookadoo
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  Speaker 5: coconuts that believe in restorative justice. If you don't agree
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  Speaker 5: with that, you're a racist. So I'm not a racist,
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  Speaker 5: but I don't care if you call me one because
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  Speaker 5: I don't believe in restorative justice.
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  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. Restorative justice isn't part of the canons of
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  Speaker 1: judicial ethics.
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  Speaker 5: That's correct. So this is why– and Susan Lucan didn't
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  Speaker 5: say she'd try– to change the juvenile court. Susan Lucan
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  Speaker 5: told me she would go on there on the first
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  Speaker 5: day and roll her sleeves up and fix all of this.
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  Speaker 5: People would start being held accountable. People would start doing
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  Speaker 5: time for violent crime. Violent offenders would not be on
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  Speaker 5: the street. So we absolutely have to vote for Susan
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  Speaker 5: Lucan next month and fire Carrie Bloom and throw her
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  Speaker 5: out on her pineapples because She's destroying this county. And
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  Speaker 5: not just this county, it's eking over and into other counties.
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  Speaker 5: So one of her juveniles that she refused to incarcerate
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  Speaker 5: is now doing, I don't know, I don't think he's
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  Speaker 5: been sentenced yet, but they tried him as an adult
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  Speaker 5: over in Claremont County here recently. And he was in jail.
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  Speaker 5: He was in the Claremont County jail crying. because he
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  Speaker 5: didn't understand why he couldn't go home. In half the county,
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  Speaker 5: he would be released already. He'd be going home. And
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  Speaker 5: he told people that. Don't worry. Don't worry, dog. I'll
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  Speaker 5: be home because this ain't nothing. They shot at an
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  Speaker 5: occupied vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: And even though they didn't hurt anybody, luckily they're idiots
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  Speaker 5: who can't shoot, they're going to prison for many, many,
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  Speaker 5: many years.
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  Speaker 1: Hard lesson to learn, huh?
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  Speaker 5: Not getting a slap on the hand. So even, you know,
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  Speaker 5: even our juveniles who are out of control here are
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  Speaker 5: eking over into other counties. So, you know, we need
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  Speaker 5: judges like Christopher McDowell, Leah Dinkalacker, Susan Lucan. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I could go on and on. Katie Cash, Roger Bouchard,
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  Speaker 5: Dennis Mahoney, Robert Goring, Betsy Sunderman. And Ralph Winkler. We've
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  Speaker 5: got to have these judges next month get elected or reelected,
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  Speaker 5: some of them. We've got to keep Judge McDowell. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know what I'll do if.
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  Speaker 1: We leave Judge McDowell. He's a terrific jurist. Terrific jurist. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you got the list there from Signal 99. In appointment reading,
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  Speaker 1: you need to get over to Signal 99 and look
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  Speaker 1: at the guest contributor. We haven't even really scratched the
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  Speaker 1: surface of all these illustrations of why Judge Bloomberg.