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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, September 6 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, September six. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour is brought to you by Actually Home Store
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  Speaker 1: and now a guy who's been wandering the halls all
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  Speaker 1: week yelling Beckham. I don't even know him. J P. Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means. But you know what, okay,
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  Speaker 1: do you know what's consistently happening in Happy Hour? Joe's
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  Speaker 1: intros get worse and worse. They go down the hill,
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  Speaker 1: really really really fat. Beckham. I don't even know him.
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  Speaker 1: Explain explain yourself, no, please, don't done. Just just like,
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  Speaker 1: uh yeah, christ Beckham. I'm not taking the bab good idea.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Ashley Home Store
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  Speaker 1: in this Thursday. Ahead of the Jags and the Giants
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  Speaker 1: to open the regular season Sunday, one o'clock to kick
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  Speaker 1: off time it MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey.
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  Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagaman, Tony Baselli for the next
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  Speaker 1: hour previewing this matchup will get through some picks a
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  Speaker 1: little later tonight as well, we'll hear from Leonard for
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  Speaker 1: who spoke today, We'll hear from Jalen Ramsey, who spoke
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  Speaker 1: today but didn't really have a lot to say. That's
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  Speaker 1: a good thing, you think so, No, I mean it's entertaining.
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  Speaker 1: Why stop now? What else can you not say? You
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  Speaker 1: might have just keep on going. I mean you have.
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  Speaker 1: If you're Jalen Ramsey, you set the tone for the
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  Speaker 1: year that you were gonna run your mouth against every
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  Speaker 1: single person from Matt Ryan to Gronkowski and everyone in between.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, why not take a shot at Beckham and
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  Speaker 1: tell me stinks? He said? Gronkowski's overrated, just the greatest
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  Speaker 1: tight end probably in the history of the League's no
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  Speaker 1: good that Matt Ryan is average. Forget that he got
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  Speaker 1: suspended kind of a week amongst keep it going, let's
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  Speaker 1: good time. Just talk his cheat when it's always been
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  Speaker 1: cheap trying to play, not time to talk. I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: that he did not, you know, I think he was
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  Speaker 1: close to the edge of just going there today though
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  Speaker 1: you can by looking at him, you know it's bubbling
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  Speaker 1: up and it's coming out. It might not be this week,
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  Speaker 1: but it's coming out. Here's what Jalen Ramsey had to
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  Speaker 1: say today about the matchup against Nodell Beckham Jr. Looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to looking forward to beginning the season with the
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  Speaker 1: whole team. A lot of people try to gonna try
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  Speaker 1: to make it about me and him specifically. That's not
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  Speaker 1: what it's about. Football's the team game. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: leving guys out there for us and leving guys out
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  Speaker 1: there for them. So we're gonna have to come together
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  Speaker 1: and do what we gotta do try to get a win.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna trying to do my partner. There you have it,
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Rams. That's the truth. And yes, people are gonna
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  Speaker 1: try to make it about him and Beckham. But you
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  Speaker 1: know what, I got to kind of correct him there
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. People didn't kind of make it about
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  Speaker 1: him and Beckham. I mean he kind of made it
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  Speaker 1: about him and Beckham a little bit in the off season.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, but it's gonna be a great match up.
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  Speaker 1: And you're talking two elite players. I mean they're you're
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about top five guys at their position respectively.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the kind of matchup that definitely sells tickets.
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  Speaker 1: It's the kind of matchup that sells popcorn. I have
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  Speaker 1: my popcorn ready. You won't you'll be doing the game.
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  Speaker 1: You will not be eating popcorns. I'll be eating popcorn,
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  Speaker 1: my own version of Hopefully it's like yogurt covered pretzels.
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  Speaker 1: You you will be eating those of those will be
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  Speaker 1: on the plane and you'll get those. They didn't have
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  Speaker 1: him last time. Um, before we go to your covered pretzels,
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  Speaker 1: hold off on the food. Talk is true. Jeff's right,
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  Speaker 1: it is, but it's boring. Yes, I'm with you at
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  Speaker 1: X player and somebody who did not love what he
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  Speaker 1: did in the off season and those two articles I
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  Speaker 1: with I'm with Jeff applauding him. But he's already opened
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  Speaker 1: that door. So the other side of me is like,
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  Speaker 1: if you've already opened that door and walked through it,
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  Speaker 1: why stop. Now listen to you. I'm not you're in
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  Speaker 1: the media. Now listen to you. Know I'm on both sides.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not. How did you definitely both sides? I just
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  Speaker 1: submitted you're in the media. We had to discuss both sides,
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  Speaker 1: and he was totally media. He was trying to claim
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  Speaker 1: he had a Twitter. Yes, you are Twitter poles. You know.
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  Speaker 1: There was a rumor going around that he might not
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  Speaker 1: qualify for media. I'm not media. I don't know who
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  Speaker 1: he started. Hold on, hold on, because you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think there's like you have to like be on a
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  Speaker 1: radio show to good for me. So I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 1: is that you know we've already covered this, No I haven't.
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  Speaker 1: We have we have? You think I'm gonna pass up
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  Speaker 1: on the opportunity because we all know that if it
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  Speaker 1: were me, I'd be burying, oh, digging the hole and
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  Speaker 1: throwing the dirt. For those who missed out, today's Thursday, right, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're back on track. Actually, in my world it's Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: because Monday was Sunday that I wasn't here. Well it's Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to make sure you're back on track. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we go to New York on Saturday. You good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get here. That's two days we have to yes, yes, yeah, unreal.
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  Speaker 1: Hey you had to get it in there. Did you
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  Speaker 1: did you buy chance? I mean you were on the
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  Speaker 1: radio by chance? What Monday? Did did you take some shots? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: We took some shots it So he's also got a
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  Speaker 1: two hundred dollar fine in the kiddy for that. That's
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  Speaker 1: a beard. That's what Joe, the one who does that.
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  Speaker 1: That should be like fourline conduct. Trum darn right, that's
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  Speaker 1: not like being late. That's like technically I was, I
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  Speaker 1: showed up. That's kind of conduct detrimental. We're not. Let's
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  Speaker 1: we ask maybe we'll have to ask the the man himself,
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  Speaker 1: who is usually pretty good at instituting fine. Let's ask
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't have any say on this side. No, I
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  Speaker 1: know he doesn't, but on this for this instance, we
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  Speaker 1: can get his kid. He doesn't get to come and
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  Speaker 1: go as he if you're telling me, yes, I will.
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  Speaker 1: And if he wants to get the fine, I'll take
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  Speaker 1: the fine. If he comes on the show with us weekly,
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  Speaker 1: I would like weekly weekly segment. So if he wants
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  Speaker 1: to find me he comes on for the week weekly,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask him. I'm gonna ask him what would
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  Speaker 1: be an appropriate fine? Has no say unless he comes
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  Speaker 1: on the show. Forss Elly, we're missing on behalf of
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  Speaker 1: the show. Would you say, I mean? Right? And and
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  Speaker 1: here should should we not? We have a game this week.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the joint. You're deflecting, right, Wait to
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  Speaker 1: talk through this, Barkley. And by the way, okay, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, Yeah, we'll get back to the final a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. We're Discussingham Odell Beckham Jr. On the other
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  Speaker 1: side of this um discussion of course this week, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, he handled himself really well. He did, and
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  Speaker 1: here's what he had to say in the locker room.
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  Speaker 1: This is probably, if not the best, one of the
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  Speaker 1: best coiners in the league. There's no way around it. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And this this defense that they have is you know,
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  Speaker 1: they have six seven Pro Bowlers maybe more on that team.
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  Speaker 1: They have a very good scheme. They're probably the best
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  Speaker 1: defense in the NFL. So we we have a a
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  Speaker 1: very tough schallenge ahead of us. But um, I think
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  Speaker 1: we're all excited about the opportunity to be able to
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  Speaker 1: come back play football again. UM. I know that I'm
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  Speaker 1: very excited. So it's definitely gonna be It's definitely gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a good match if you have an Odell Beckham Jr.
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  Speaker 1: He is that's a solid answer there from him. He
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  Speaker 1: knows how good this defense has been in the past
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  Speaker 1: and can be again. And he gave Jalen some props
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  Speaker 1: there too. He's a great he's a great player. If
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be great matchup. You know, I think that
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  Speaker 1: the interesting thing is when you when you listen to
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  Speaker 1: Jalen or a j and the corners talk about Odell
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  Speaker 1: Beckham and when you watch the film on him, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing that he doesn't do that's you know, exceptional.
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  Speaker 1: You know, pretty much every attribute that you're looking for.
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  Speaker 1: And a wide receiver, I mean sometimes you're looking for,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a guy that can play the slot, or
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  Speaker 1: a guy that can go deep, or you know a
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  Speaker 1: guy that's got change of direction, or a guy's got
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  Speaker 1: typed end speed or abilities after he makes the catch.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Odell Beckham has it all. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that's probably the most impressive thing about him is that
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  Speaker 1: there is nothing that he doesn't do well, and there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing that they can't ask him to do that he
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  Speaker 1: won't excel at. And that's the challenge of him, I think.
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  Speaker 1: And Pat Sherman said he might return punts, Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 1: why not. He's been number one on their depth chart
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  Speaker 1: as apartment returner. But I have a hard time back
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  Speaker 1: there maybe in a big play, a situation where you
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  Speaker 1: have to have it be. I don't see him a
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  Speaker 1: regular return no. And I think also because you know,
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  Speaker 1: he hasn't had any preseason action at all, Okay, as
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  Speaker 1: an offensive player or as a punt returner, and he's
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  Speaker 1: coming back from an injury that broken left ankle. It
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  Speaker 1: required surgery, I believe. I thought it was just above
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  Speaker 1: the right above the ankle. I I don't know exactly
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  Speaker 1: what it was, fracture, it was bad. Whatever it was,
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  Speaker 1: it was I think until springtime before he started to run.
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  Speaker 1: And uh so, I mean that's a significant injury. But
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  Speaker 1: I mean his numbers are off the chart. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think he's played in forty seven games and I
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  Speaker 1: wrote his numbers down over yards, thirty eight touchdowns. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy that's done this with essentially
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  Speaker 1: in three years, because he didn't play for a while
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  Speaker 1: in his rookie season and then last year he had
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  Speaker 1: the ankle, so you kind of have to factor that in.
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  Speaker 1: And and I mean, look at the numbers. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy. The number that's probably the most impressive is
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  Speaker 1: the contract. Five years, nine five million, sixty five million
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  Speaker 1: dollars dollars guaranteed. It's pretty good. We'll take it. It's
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  Speaker 1: so it's I'm looking forward to watch him. And here's
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  Speaker 1: here's the one part though that I think won't get
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  Speaker 1: talked about too much. But we're gonna talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just about him, you know. I mean, Evan
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  Speaker 1: Ingram is is a tough matchup that plays tight end
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  Speaker 1: because you're a little bit of a quandary. Who do
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  Speaker 1: you cover them with? Do you cover them with a
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  Speaker 1: defensive back or do you come with a linebacker. I
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  Speaker 1: think the Jaguars have the flexibility to play a safety
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  Speaker 1: on him. Telvin Smith or Miles Jack can feel good
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  Speaker 1: about it. But then also Sterling Shepherd is a good
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  Speaker 1: football player. You know, he's a young player and in
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  Speaker 1: two years he's got a hundred twenty four catches. And
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  Speaker 1: then say Kwan Barkley. Everybody wants to talk hi about
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  Speaker 1: about him as a running back, but one of the
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  Speaker 1: strongest attributes that he has is as a receiver out
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  Speaker 1: of the backfield. So I actually, you know, you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about Ingram and Sterling separate good players. But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm looking at guys that worry me because I
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  Speaker 1: don't think the Giants are gonna line up and have
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  Speaker 1: put together long drives and and threaten to the Jaguars defense.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't see them being to have the consistency.
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  Speaker 1: The offensive line is better, it's it's new. The big
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  Speaker 1: edition of Nate Solder at left tackle, Will Hernandez, the
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  Speaker 1: rookie guard at left guard. So they're gonna better on
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  Speaker 1: that side because Flowers was a awful left tackle. He's
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  Speaker 1: gone to the right side. Is he still awful on
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  Speaker 1: the right side? Um, not at all. It's not great.
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  Speaker 1: He's not great. Yeah, it's not great. Oh Mama is
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  Speaker 1: beside him. Mammy is a good football I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: I think, oh Mommy is a solid football player, I
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  Speaker 1: really do. Um, but Eric Flowers is uh but all
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  Speaker 1: he was awful left. I'm gonna say he's just below
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  Speaker 1: Averager right, Um, he's he's when you watch me, he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't look like you would probably speak more of this
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  Speaker 1: than I. But it never looks like he has a
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  Speaker 1: great technique. Hands are awful, He bends over, engages his head,
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  Speaker 1: he has terrible balance. His footworkers all over the place,
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  Speaker 1: and he's probably a little overweight. I just want to
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  Speaker 1: kick his dog. No, Now that's kind of what I
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  Speaker 1: wanted him to get to. And he's acting like Jalen Ramsey, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: like he's got to like be nice to know. I
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  Speaker 1: just said what it is. I mean, Now, can you
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  Speaker 1: guard him a little bit? Over on the right side,
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  Speaker 1: and can you do something yes, where he's by himself
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  Speaker 1: on the left a lot of times the way they
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  Speaker 1: want to play football and protect him um and and
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  Speaker 1: Nate Solders a guy that they're gonna be confident that
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  Speaker 1: could go one on one with Goway. Not that he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna shut down in Gockway completely, but they Solder will
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  Speaker 1: hold his own, He'll be fine. And in the sense
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  Speaker 1: of your game planning, you know that in Gockway is
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  Speaker 1: a very good player, and not that there's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: some edge things and and if you know Eli holds
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  Speaker 1: the ball, pay your left tackle to where he can't lock.
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  Speaker 1: And so they feel good about that. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they're good enough to line up, pound the rock,
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  Speaker 1: control the tempo of the game, and put together long drives.
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  Speaker 1: What worries me is two guys is Odell Beckham and
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  Speaker 1: sa Kwan Barkley, because both of those guys are a
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  Speaker 1: touchdown waiting to happen anywhere on the field they can
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  Speaker 1: they can go to the distance anytime they take. Kwon
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  Speaker 1: Barkley played very little in the preseason, but you just
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  Speaker 1: go look at his I think it was his first
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  Speaker 1: carry against Cleveland yards and forget about the yards and
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  Speaker 1: everything else. Look at what happens from the time he
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  Speaker 1: gets the ball until he gets tackled. And the movement
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  Speaker 1: skills in the open field ability make you miss. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that looks like Fred Taylor. I mean, the guy
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  Speaker 1: has a little bit. He's he has size, he has
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  Speaker 1: side decide ability, he has top end speed, he gets
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  Speaker 1: in space. He is a nightmare. And it's a just point.
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  Speaker 1: He also can be split out as a slot receiver
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  Speaker 1: and put and stretch and put pressure on you as
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  Speaker 1: a the Uh. He's got great secondary, He's got he's
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  Speaker 1: got great guys. And I actually, you know, Rode a
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  Speaker 1: little thing up for John today about it. The only
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  Speaker 1: way the Giants win this game is big place. And
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  Speaker 1: if they could hit a couple of big plays with
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  Speaker 1: Barkley and Beckham, then it's gonna be It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a tight game because I don't see them standing toe
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  Speaker 1: to toe and with the size and the physicality of
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  Speaker 1: the giant of the Jaguars on on both lines, but
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  Speaker 1: especially that defensive line, and be on the run the
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  Speaker 1: ball consistently. Yeah, I think the thing that makes you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think Doug Morown nervous and any coach in the
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  Speaker 1: first game, and even me is that, what what do
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  Speaker 1: you what are they gonna look like? You know? To
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  Speaker 1: give people an example, and when when a coach or
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  Speaker 1: staff is preparing for a game, they typically have about
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  Speaker 1: anywhere between a three and in some cases like a
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  Speaker 1: five game book. And when I say three to five games,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be the last three games or
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  Speaker 1: the last five games. It can be three or five
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  Speaker 1: games picked out from but ump quickly before you finished.
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  Speaker 1: But even now, with the computers and the way they
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  Speaker 1: load stuff on on to the through the tape, the
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  Speaker 1: way they market and everything else, they actually can take
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  Speaker 1: even larger to do package. But I mean, so it's
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  Speaker 1: the three or five game book. And here you are
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  Speaker 1: with the first game of the year with a system
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  Speaker 1: on defense for the Giants that uh, their defensive coordinator
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  Speaker 1: is bringing in from the Arizona Cardinals, okay, and which
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars faced, so they know that system, okay. And
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  Speaker 1: I think the system that he brings in because he's
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  Speaker 1: the coordinator with an offensive minded coach, the defense is
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  Speaker 1: gonna is gonna stay the same, the exact same style
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  Speaker 1: of defense that he ran in Arizona offensively, there's questions
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  Speaker 1: because you have Mike Schuler, who came from Carolina, and
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  Speaker 1: then also Pat Sherman, the head coach, who came from
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota the last nearly two years, was the offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 1: there with a small little past of where he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: when uh North Turner was there. So this offense is
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  Speaker 1: probably a little bit of of a melded composition between
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  Speaker 1: what the two backgrounds that these two guys come from.
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  Speaker 1: So what is it gonna look like? I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, the only thing that with that Jeff is
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you look at Shure, he's a he came
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  Speaker 1: from Caroline with Cam Newton. He does not have Cam
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  Speaker 1: Newton back there. And obviously with Eli and if you
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  Speaker 1: look at what Carolina did, a lot of RPO stuff,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of run pass options, a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 1: zone read, you're not going to see that, So you
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  Speaker 1: can cross that off the list. Yeah, but there's but
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  Speaker 1: see they here's here's the thing with that, Tony. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you look at what Philadelphia did with Nick Foles, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Nick Foles is uh is you know Carl Lewis compared
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  Speaker 1: to Eli Manning. I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say
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  Speaker 1: that I can't run. But nick Foles is not. It's
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  Speaker 1: not a great better than Jeff nick Foles in college
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  Speaker 1: read it's something whole career. Bradford, Bradford bad me. What
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  Speaker 1: did they with him? And there he's still he still
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  Speaker 1: had some RPOs. It was one game. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that it's gonna be on the core of the system,
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  Speaker 1: but Jeff, let's just to say that they're not going
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  Speaker 1: to have it in there at all. And I think
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  Speaker 1: how many r pos? How many ignorant? I didn't call
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  Speaker 1: you an idiot, I wouldn't have a play in there
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  Speaker 1: because it's eli. How many r pos? How many r
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: p o s do you think that the Giants will
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: run this game against the Jaguars. I mean they might
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: run a couple, but I'm not saying because I don't know,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: you're gonna make it interesting, has nothing to do. I'll
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: take the under, thank you. I think I'll take the under.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Two good. I'm glad you guys are. But there's there's
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with having a quarterback that doesn't scramble but
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: still have of an RP. I hope he here's the
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: one thing. I take that, Bring it on. I think
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I think some people that are beginners that don't understand
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: the definition of r p O run pass option. Okay,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: run pass option ames run or pass option. It doesn't
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: mean quarterback run or pass option necessarily possible hand it
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: off to the running back or pass off of that act. Now,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: are they gonna do something to your point? Fair enough?
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: That is fair. I was speaking to what did what
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Sula did with camera, But that's not just what an
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: RPO is. I agree with you there, But what you're
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: talking about in the RPO, which I do think we'll
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: see what Barkley is the the fake of the outside
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: stretch with a backside slant. Yeah, now that's an RPO.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. That what I'm thinking. I'm going
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: under two design quarterback running place. Well, I was speaking.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: That's that's why part of an RPO, the true RPO
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: typically gives a run to the running back, a run
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: option for the quarterback, and something down the field. That's
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: what I was speaking to. That's what they did in Carolina.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: That's typically what it is. It's a three way. But
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: you can run quarterback and throw it. He can hand
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the ball off to just in fairness to Jeff, I
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: called him an idiot. I still think he is, but
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: at this point he's right the in a sense, they'll
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: run r pos faking the zone. Read to Barkley. So
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: you're changing your opinion now that there might be an RPO.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: And Okay, what did you call him earlier? I didn't say.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't call him anything ignorant. I didn't say it
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: was ignorant. I said, I said to think that way
• 19:24
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  Speaker 1: coming up Sunday in New York run games. I think
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the Jags are being running football. But this year Fellas
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: that's what this he wants to be, still what it
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: wants to be. They might mix it up down to
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: field a little bit more than they have in the
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: pastle more confidence. Maybe the quarterack right, but they're not
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: gonna show all the cards. You didn't even see them
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: press the ball down the field in the preseason. Very
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: off a couple of moments, you know, but I wouldn't
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: a whole lot. But I mean, look, they're gonna come out.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: They're gonna come out and try to pound a rock.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: That's the defensive line what they are. And on top
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: of that, you know you have a giant's defense that
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: maybe missing, you know, a pretty significant part in Olivia Vernon. Uh,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: you've got a rookie defensive end and b J. Hill
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: he's a good point completely defense attack. He's still rookie, yeah,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: but he's really I mean, just every understands when we're
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: talking defensive ends. This week they play they have three
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: or four personnel Arizona, much like Arizona we talked about
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the same defensive coordinator. They're really, though, play more four
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: three principles with a three or four print, uh personnel
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Like Olivier Vernon if he was to play, which I
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: don't think he will, is a defensive end. List him
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: as a linebacker, but he's in the game. He's essentially
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: in Gockway's position standing up. Yeah, and so but it's
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: still it's a three four look. Really are they play
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: more of a four three? Like if I was game
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: planning and looking at the at the I would say,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: any wherever Olivia Vernon is, 're treat him as a
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: down guy because he's coming the time. He's not gonna
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: go out and cover it. Very rare. I would I
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: would actually block three four three principles even though they're
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: a three four teams. So when we talk about b J. Hill,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: he's not your typical defensive end, I mean he's six
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: six three three eleven. He's more like a three technique
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: or if a three four, and they will play head
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: up or to a tight shade of the offensive tack
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: But if they don't have Vernon, a lot of people
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: would say, well, it doesn't affect their run defense that much.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: This guy, I mean, Olivia Vernon's is the real deal.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: He's big, he's strong, he can play the point of
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: a t at uh, He's different in that aspect. I
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: think people, you know, we were talking about the comparisons
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: with doing Gockway in that Position's not as good a
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: pass rusher is he Gockway, But he's a better runs
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: He's very strong against the run. So that that's a
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: big loss for them. Alc Ogletree good player at the
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: middle linebacking position who they got in a trade relatively
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: cheap to fourth in a sixth round pick from the Rams,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and he just signed an extension the year before. So
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a good trade for Dave Gentleman,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: the one guy I think that is a little weak
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: as the other outside linebacker who they signed in free
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: agency from the Arizona Cardinals, Cream Martin. I think he's
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: kind of stiff uh, I think he can be gotten.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: After the nose tackle that Tony talked about snacks Harrison,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: which is you know his real name is Damon Harrison.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: He arguably might be the best nose tackle in football.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Is he still Jeff? I mean he was, he still
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: was a couple of years ago. I don't remember watching
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: the much of the Giants last year there. We didn't
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: play him, and I don't think I him on the
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Thursday night either, um, but I know a couple of
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: years ago when I saw him, he was. He was
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: a big, strong, can run, great hands. He's not a
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: great pass rusher, good enough, but I mean you talk
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: and try trying to think think of Marcel Darius but
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: probably and Marcel, I think is better pass rusher. But
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: but Marcel, do you know strong Marcel Darius is Damon
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Harrison is is it? Just as strong? But he's more
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: active against the run than Marcel Darius is. So and
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: we're talking about you know, Pro Bowl Marcel Darius. You know,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: so he's that good. I mean, he's he's just stop now.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I mean Lender's got his hands full now. Lender and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: A J. Cann and Norwell, I mean this is this
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: is a tough match up with those two guys, Damon
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Harrison and alec Ogiltree. Jeff, what do you think about
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: that they just added? If I'm not mistaken, Mary Edwards,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: who uh former first rounder for the Raiders. Yeah, he's
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: a guy. He but he was good his first couple
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: of Yeah, he had the neck in jury with the Raiders.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: You don't pick up good players on way. I agree.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I was just I was actually surprised the Raiders cut them,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: and just because I mean sometimes you get you forget
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: because you don't look at the if you don't covering
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the team, you think of them coming out of college
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: or what they did their early years. Now, Tomlinson, you know,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: JP's guy from Alabama. He was the second round pick
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: for them last year. He's a good player, big strong,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: got some pass rush to him. Um, I like him,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson one of the many first round second round
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: picks that Alabama has put out in the last couple
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: of years. But I think if they got some holes.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: You know, cran Martin outside linebacker, like I said, as
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: a whole, b J. Goodson doesn't do much for me.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: The other inside backer without alec Ogletree, I think Eli
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Apple is a weakness at corner for them. Yeah, opposite
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: of Jory's Jenkins. Jenkins is a good player, you know,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: So I got the safety play well. Collins a good player.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, Pro Bowl caliber player the last couple
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: of years and uh got great range, can can close
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: contribution to Yeah, he's a good player. Another another Alabama products. Ye, shocking.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: So you know this is an offensive line. We've seen
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: them together early in camp. They haven't been together a
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: lot in the last part of the preseason. Linda was
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: out the last couple of weeks together. Yeah, but but
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: let me let me say this. A lot of that,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of that has been wrought. I've been
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: looking at and some I think some instances, it's true
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: that you want your offensive line to play together. But look,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I think the reality is that even though some of
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the practices have been closed, they've been practicing together. Jeremy
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Parnell was held out more of a precautionary thing. Brandon
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Lender was held out more because it was precautionary. But
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: these guys were practicing together, you know. So I would
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: be more concerned if they didn't play together and they
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: weren't practicing, But I don't think that's the case. I'd
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: be more concerned if they're young players. Brandon Lender will
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: not miss this. I mean he'll be fine. Uh, Andrew Norrel,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I mean you saw that he immediately came in. They
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: were better upfront with the one preseason game. There two veterans.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: They're gonna communicate together. I think we talked about this
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: on Monday JP on the second hour when I was
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: actually here. Um one of the first it was where
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: it's not a perfect world, and would you like them
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: to have played, you know, you know, a few series together. Absolutely,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: it's better, but it's not something that's gonna keep you
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: up at night that you're concerned about either. And by
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the by the way, I don't know I said this
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: somewhere else, but A. J. Cann was my offensive line
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: m v P for the preseason. That guy, he I
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: thought he was awesome, was your offensive line m VP
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: just because of the improvement he made from one year
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the next. Because he was not the best offensive linement
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: in the preseason. I think you could make the I
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: think you could make an argument that he was if
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: you if you evaluated the preseason games, I think you
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: could make the case for that, I really did. I
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: would still say Linda was the best. You know, he
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: had limited much lesson Well that looks you were snaps.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: We're opinions here, but I mean I think you could
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: make a case. He was very he listened. He was
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: probably the weekends last year. He was probably the weakest
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: of the five last year in his play overall, and
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: he was top two. So he had a great offseason,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: did an outstanding job. I'm with the Jeff there. I
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: was very pleased to see how many times and here
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: here's a good question. How many times do you guys
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: remember a j cambing on the ground in the preseason?
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I wasn't counting. Do you remember him on the ground
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: at all? Uh? Not much? Maybe cut balking down the
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: field because you know, that's one of the problems that
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: he used to have, not so that he was on
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: the grounder, but because he got his weight so far forward,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: his body position was much better. With Jeff's talking about
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: he was a little bit too much of a waste
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: bender in the past, and he would lean forward instead
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: of getting his hips underneath them, chest up a little
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: bit better, so that would cause him to reach and
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: both the run of the past, and he did not
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: do that this year. The helmet rule change have a
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: little something to do with that, maybe, yeah, absolutely, because
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: he was a guy that would duck his head and
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: and try to initiate contact with you know, the top
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: of the helmet, which you know what. I don't know
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: if that's what a lot of guys have done that,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: but I think it helped. Well, I think what helped
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: did you realize if you wanted to play and be
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: on this team and get a big contract, you better
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: play better? And well, yeah, I mean there's no good
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: football playing with your head down. Yeah, there there's I
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt that, you know, contract motivation wise,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: all that is there. But I really believe because I
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: remember when that rule came out, and this was before
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: before the training camp even started. I remember having a
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: conversation with Doug Moron and he talked specifically about a
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: J and that he was the offensive lineman that even
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: you know, because we were talking about, you know how
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: who is this going to affect? Is this going to
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: affect offensive lineman? And he made mention of that a
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: J is a guy that she's gonna have to change
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: the way that he goes about his business. So I
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: think it was huge and in this in his case,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and maybe more maybe it it impacted and affected him
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: more than we even believe or even realize. Austin Sefari
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: and Jenkins back in the practice field limited today, did
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: not practice yesterday with a core muscle injury. Would we
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: expect that at the tight end here? I don't know.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I mean to be honestly, had one catch. It was
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: a great catch, you know, third down crossing route where
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: he went up and made a play that you hope
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: your tight end does make. Um I thought he blocked,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: you know, when he had opportunities. Fine, I think uh.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, he needs to be a part of
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the game plan. He needs to be involved. I think
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: he should be important on third down, those third medium distances.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I think he's be important the red zone. I hope
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: he's a big part of it because I think it
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: makes their offensive much better. I don't I don't know
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: this for sure, but I I go back in my
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: mind and think of the Minnesota practices to where he
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: had to come out the first day because something in
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the in the middle of his body, Okay, and then
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: he comes back the week after that the Atlanta game,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: makes the catch, lands on the ball, kind of on
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: the sidelines, comes back out again. Okay, doesn't finish that
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: were came back I think at some point in the game,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: but didn't play a whole lot of snaps after that,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: and of course didn't play at all against Tampa in
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the preseas. So in my mind, I'm sitting here thinking,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: you know, core injury, I'm going I'm going back to
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: that Minnesota trip and saying that this is something that's
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: lingering since then. And I don't know for sure that
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: it's the same thing, but I mean, I'm sitting every
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: thinking it probably is, and it's not going away. So
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: they're trying to find a way to get it to
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: go away. And and so you ask, you know, what
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: do you think is gonna happen? I don't know, because
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: this is something that I think has been lingering since
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: that that Minnesota game and week that's that's the trick.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: We have an idea what we'd like to see out
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: of him, but you haven't seen it yet in the preseason.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Just finishing up the injury report here today. By the way,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Brandon Lender limited again today with the knee Jeremy Parnell
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: same thing with a knee issue, and that Jeralen Ramsey
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: added to the report today with an ankle issue. Limited
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: in practice today, but that doesn't seem to be a
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: concern moving ahead. And here here's the thing. Limited could
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: mean that we backed off his reps by two or
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: limited could mean that we backed his reps or we
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: cut his reps in half. So there's kind of a
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: there's a pretty big window of where a player may
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: fit in that limited category kind of game does Blake
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: have Sunday guys, Blake portals the quarterback number five. I
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a game that the running backs
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: are gonna be able to take a lot of pressure
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: off of them, and the running backs are also going
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: to be a big part of the passing game, kind
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: of like what we saw against Atlanta. And because you know,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear that the chemistry with the
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: wide receivers, with the number of them, you know, and
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: the downfield balls, you know, that chemistry really didn't kind
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: of happen. Yet you for for them as a group together.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: So I think Blake will lean on the running backs
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit, um use his legs a little bit
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: and probably have a comfort level on some of the
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: short throws with the wide receivers. I think he's gonna
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: have an efficient day. I don't think the Giants are
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: great in coverage, yeah, I don't. I think Jens Jenkins
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: is a good player. I think Collins is a good player.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: But you know, the other safety and Eli Apple, I
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: think or suspect, and I think that Blake should have
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: a solid day. I don't think it will be anything
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: spectacular or you know, during the game, you're probably watching
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: guys okay, good, that's so good. But I think you'll
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: at the end of it, you'll go look at the
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: stat sheet and have about two yards passing, you know,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: completion touch numbers out there, touchdown, no turnovers in price,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: scramble for one or two first downs, and I mean,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I think it'll be a game that the average person
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: who maybe not doesn't watch a lot of Jagar football, say, oh,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: that guy's not just average. But then you look at
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: the stats and the fact that they walk away with win,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: and you'll really go watch the game tape and evaluate
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: you like, now, he played pretty good football. I mean
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: that happens a lot with Blake. I mean, you're watching
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: it and it doesn't feel as good, and then you
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: look at the stat sheet and then you go watch
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the tape like and he really made some huge plays
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: that were critical in this team winning. Um. The interesting
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: thing Jeff said about the wide receiver position, but you
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: know the lack of chemistry out A buddy of mine, uh,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: who does fantasy? He texts me this week and I
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: think they're getting ready for the draft, and he's like,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: who's gonna be? Because you know you're always trying if
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: you're doing fantasy, which I'm not a fantasy guy, but
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: in the Pact tried it a few years ago. You
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: want to find they're definitely not a fantasy haven't beat
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: you last year? Uh? You want to get that number
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: one receiver on a team, even if it's not a
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: top end guy. Like if whoever the number and he goes,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: who's gonna be the number one receiver? From the Jackson,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I said, I said, you tell me, because I have
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: it's week to week. I have no idea and I
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: so I actually sat back and thought, if I was
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: drafting for annesty, one Jaguar receiver who I thought was
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: gonna be the most productive about the year, who would
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: it be. I don't know, you gotta pick one. Pick one,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: d D. I think he's getting a lot of balls.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: D D. You think d D Westbrook. Yeah, Okay, he
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: might not have the most yardage, but I think he's
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of action if he can stay healthy.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I would say Dante Moncrief if he But you only
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: get one, I'm gonna say, I probably keeling. I'm going
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: to killing Cole. I mean he look he I mean
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: the yards per catch last year that he had, the
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: number of yards that he had last year. I mean,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be carried over this year. And here and
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: here's the thing I think that's impressive about him. He
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: works a rear end off, you know, so, and I
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: think he's gonna do the same same again this year.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: But I mean, that's an interesting question. It is I
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: could change every week every week. Well, and I said
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: that earlier, that you know, you could put the names
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: in the hat as far as you know each week,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: and then they might have different three starters everything. That's
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: was my point, you know, and and I'm sticking to that.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I still believe that, you know, because I think that
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: until somebody separates themselves, because right now from our evaluation
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: from what week we have been able to see, which
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: is you know, training camp practices and games and reviewing
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the game film. Uh, who would you say? I mean,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: you really can't say that any one guy has clearly
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: shown that he's the guy. Like last year in training camp,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I mean there was it was clearly a Rob was
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the dominant guy. He was the man. And this training
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: camp you don't have any impression that anybody in particular
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: is the man. Hell, it could be d Jhark, do
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: you know, Because here's the thing. He's gonna be active
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: every week, because he's gonna play special teams, and he's
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: gonna be one of the best. I think he's gonna
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: be one of the better gunners. You know that's in
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: their conference. And so I got great speed, he's got
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: great hands, and I mean, heck is the yards perquetch
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: at college was crazy? And why wouldn't you line him
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: up and take a shot deep at some point in
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: the game a couple of different times, you know, So
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. I do think if Dante can
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: stay healthy, which hasn't been able to do the last
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: couple of years, I could see him leading this team
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: and receptions. We look at the preseason. I mean I
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: was impressed when he was out there at some really
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: nice releases from line scream. He's a big, physical guy,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: good hands, UM veteran, so he's been there before and
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: he's producing when he's been out there, he's pretty produced
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: and he's producing the past. But he's but im I
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: was afraid to say him because he has not proven
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: to be able to be available as much. Um, it's
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: a great It's one of the big unknowns for me
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: going into the season. Like I, I got a pretty
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: good sense with Blake's into this year. You got sense
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: with the running backs are gonna do? Offensive line, you know,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna be a good, solid group.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: It's a fair and Jenkins, you know, offensive everything else.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I get the receivers and I I mean, I can change.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I could argue every single one of them like this.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing is are you down on them? No? See,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: that's it. That's okay. As long as you're not down.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I just want to be with my buddy. A fantasy
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: pick and I couldn't give one. As long as you're
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: not down on the group, you know, that is okay.
• 41:10
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• 41:13
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• 41:47
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• 46:32
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  Speaker 1: different teams, so he is now with the Giants, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure we will be active in a special team's role.
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  Speaker 1: I hate Stupar. How about that blast from the past name, Yeah,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: he's he's a blast from the past for a lot
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: of people, everybody in the league. Quick looking around the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League and and let's go a little not really,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: no further than Pittsburgh to start off with, no lady
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: on Bell for the Steelers, and the Hler's locker room
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: is not happy about it, and they're vocal about it
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: as well. Here's Ramot Foster. He says, quote, here's the
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: guy who doesn't give a damn. I guess we'll treat
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: it as such. I just hate it came to this.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Markus Pouncey says this, Why play hide and seek? Why
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: let your agents say this? Just man up and tell
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: us what you're going to do. You've got players speaking
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: out about a guy holding out in your locker room,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: and that's not good at it. The day he comes
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: back and rushes for one and catches eight balls for
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: ninety yards, they'll be happy. I mean, and I mean,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I understand the frustration. I don't know what Levian Bell
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: is doing. They're not gonna sign long term he's now
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: throwing away money. He's gonna get paid fourteen point five
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: three million dollars this year, and for him not to
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: show up this first game, he's gonna lose about eight
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five thousand dollars. You like, he'll never
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: make that up anywhere. And so I don't know what
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: he's thinking. Now. Technically, he no win for him to
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: tectically because the tenders after he could sign his tender tomorrow,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: he could show up Friday and they have to pay
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: up Saturday. He could show up cut him. And so
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: maybe he's trying to put so much pressure on them
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: and make it his awkward as possible for the team. Yeah,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think. So what does that? I mean, that
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't accomplish anything for you. I mean that's because at
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: that point you're sticking it to your teammates. Yeah, that doesn't.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I think that's why his teammates up to this point
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: as a teammate, you get it. Don't come to camp,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: we get it. But now it's game week, it's you
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: want to win. And here's the thing. The Ramot Foster
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I think went a little too far, started talking about
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: money because he started talking about the money and how
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: much more money that Levy on Bell makes than him
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: wrong avenue to go down. Okay, you talk about other
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: guys money, don't do that. Okay, now what pounce he said? Okay,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: that's fair. Okay, if you're not gonna be here, tell
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: us you know. And I totally can agree with that comment.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: And it is there's nothing to be gained for Levi
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: on Bell to not be there. Nope, you know by
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: earlier part of this week, because they're not giving a
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: long time they're not going to give him a long
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: term deal. They're just not doing it. And I don't
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: know if that's him or if that's his agent, Jeff,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: it's him. He chooses whatever it is, whatever it is
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: that you can't you can't put it on the agent.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: It's not good. Steel has had a tough week. Though
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: not only that. Did you hear Terry Bradshaw again running
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: his mouth about Mike Tomlin an old player. But it's
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's something going to something else. He is
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame quarterback who's on Fox Television. It's
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: not just like some guy that fade for Pittsburgh. It's
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: one of the Terry freaking brands. You could argue if
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: the first person you think of when you say Steelers
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: is Terry Bradshaw for a lot of people, and has
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: come out last year Jack Lambert for me personally, I'm
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: just saying, you know what I mean. Last year he
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: came out and said stuff, A called him a cheerleader,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: called Mike Tomald cheerleier. And this year he kept going
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: and got more detailed how he's not typing his type
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: of coach. First deeler, it comes to mind from me,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Josh Scobee, funny first stealer comes to mind. Yeah, all right, hey,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: let's get the picks. And this year Joe is gonna
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: take us through each game. We're not doing every game.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: We're gonna pick division games and some other key matchups
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: each week. So this week we have eight games. Were
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: making recommendation moving forward, but we should pick all the
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: games that we list on the website or on our show,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: but we only go over the key games. Well moving
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: forward for next week, so we'll have every We'll pick
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: every game we can put on the website. Are producing
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: the show too over a couple of key games? Like that?
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Was that your contract? I think the best thing you
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: could do keep keep that mike near your mouth and
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: show up. Hey, Joe, can you hear me? Can you
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: hear me? Shut up? What we got? All right? Really,
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  Speaker 1: this is just for our listeners and viewers to be
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  Speaker 1: a little more educated. Let's remember that when they're making
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  Speaker 1: their picks, all right, by the way, to make sure
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  Speaker 1: we're not getting the spread. We're just picking one thing one.
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  Speaker 1: Can I make one recommendation with that, like trying to
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  Speaker 1: like tell everybody what the show should be going on.
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  Speaker 1: Can you turn? You're going to get the camera, Hollywood,
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  Speaker 1: put the camera on Joe. Here we go. No, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: especially Joe, turn your body just a little bit to
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  Speaker 1: your right, because I want everybody to know that that
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  Speaker 1: shirt is just not a it's not a like a
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  Speaker 1: buck shirt. Okay, that is a Jaguar shirt that he
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  Speaker 1: is wearing. I just want to make sure we get
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  Speaker 1: clarification on that. Thank you, Thank you very much. Can
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  Speaker 1: we get started, Joe? Yeah, thank you? All right, tonight's
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  Speaker 1: game Okay, Falcons Eagles? Here we go. What do you got, JP?
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  Speaker 1: I got the Eagles defending champs? Me too, I got Falcons.
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  Speaker 1: I think Falcons are one of the best teams that
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  Speaker 1: they excuse me. In the NFC this year, I did
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  Speaker 1: the game in the playoffs. They shouldn't be the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: in that game. They had at first and goal to
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  Speaker 1: win it and did you get it done? Didn't score.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian is second year, I think they're gonna better.
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  Speaker 1: I think they beat the Eagles. Here's the thing. I
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  Speaker 1: think that with the Falcons. That was true last year,
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  Speaker 1: and it looks like it's true again this year. They
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  Speaker 1: came out of the block slow. Last year, if I
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  Speaker 1: remember correctly, they had they didn't have a very good
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  Speaker 1: preseason last year. A little bit of that hangover kind
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  Speaker 1: of was involved. Well this preseason. They still haven't been
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  Speaker 1: very good and efficient the preseason. I think it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: take them some time to kind of get going. And
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  Speaker 1: I think the Eagles still have something to prove. They
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  Speaker 1: want to show people up for the champs. You know
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  Speaker 1: we're and then they want to win. So we got
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  Speaker 1: seven more to get in. Yeah, so let's keep moving by.
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  Speaker 1: What we're gonna do is we'll also pick all the
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  Speaker 1: division games. We'll do all the division games. We'll do
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  Speaker 1: Sunday night, we'll do Monday, we'll do Thursday, Bengals. Bengals
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  Speaker 1: stink Bengals. Yeah, that's the easy enough. Titans Dolphins. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going Titans on this one. Yeah, I'm not solding the Titans.
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  Speaker 1: Mariota has not looked good to our football that they
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  Speaker 1: once ran and they were built for. Now they're Okah,
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  Speaker 1: shut up, Chiefs, Chargers, Dolphins, you skipped one. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Actually is gonna be angry Chief Chargers, I got charge,
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  Speaker 1: I got Chargers, Chiefs, little gust Bradley, Patrick Mahomes. First stop.
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  Speaker 1: We'll go back to our Texans. Patriots, Patriots all the way.
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  Speaker 1: All right? Then, alright, Sunday right, doing a great job. Bears,
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  Speaker 1: Packers back, Packers back, get them over the hump there,
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  Speaker 1: Packers all right there, rare to Monday night games. Jets, Lions,
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  Speaker 1: Lions are at home and they've got a new head coach,
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  Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. Lions. Give me the next great Jets quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: Sam Donald, your guy. I like Sam Donalds. Almost Jets
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  Speaker 1: can't believe you're not taking them because of Sam Donald.
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  Speaker 1: But I went went with my head. I think the
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  Speaker 1: Lions actually probably went pretty easily. They should, but a
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  Speaker 1: lot of questions in Detroit now with with their preseason.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't what did look very good all right? In
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  Speaker 1: the ten twenty game on Monday night, Rams Raiders, Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be asleep. I'm taking a ramp. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I'll be awake at that time either, But I think
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  Speaker 1: the Rams are gonna win, even though big questions for me.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Jared Goff did not play one snap. Young quarterback, he's
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  Speaker 1: not that good, missed the entire preseason. I think there's
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  Speaker 1: some rust on that. But I just think the Raiders
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  Speaker 1: are a mess right now. The Raiders is forty two
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  Speaker 1: years old. So the Overhill Gang, yeah, pretty much. He
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  Speaker 1: seems like it seven point four years. John Gruden brought
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  Speaker 1: it back. Yeah, he brought it way back. Seven is
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  Speaker 1: pretty young to me right now. The the Overhill Gang,
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  Speaker 1: the head coach of the Redskins back down. But George Allen,
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  Speaker 1: George Allen, all right, there you have it. The pis
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  Speaker 1: are in, We'll have the results and we'll we'll keep
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: tally of this all year. We need to run this
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  Speaker 1: a little better in the future. That was probably run
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  Speaker 1: by Look at me. Yeah, I don't you know. Talk
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  Speaker 1: to Joe over there. He just backed up over you.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, thump you just heard was Joe getting run
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  Speaker 1: over by the bus Jags Giants. This should be a
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  Speaker 1: fun one week one. Here we go, man um, finally
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  Speaker 1: real football here and a chance to see what if
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  Speaker 1: this team can live up to the expectations. You give
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  Speaker 1: me your score. What's the score? Uh, twenty twenty three?
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  Speaker 1: It's close to me, ieen. I think the Jags will
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  Speaker 1: pull away. I think they're two more physical besides Wile
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  Speaker 1: and the where out the Giants? I think I had
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  Speaker 1: something like twenty seven and ten something like that, same
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: kind of ideas. Half. I'm gonna say this again, though,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of things you just don't know.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: It's right in the first game, first opening weekend, there's
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of unknowns, and this game
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: is no different. I mean, we think we know the Jaguars,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: but let me ask you this. Did you think you
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: knew the Jaguars last year? Yeah? I thought they could
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: have ten sacks completely over well the Jacksons and walk
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  Speaker 1: away with me. Yeah, that's that was my pick. We
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  Speaker 1: can run the tape man, Yeah, ten sack perfectly. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I called it last Week's easy to call it now.
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  Speaker 1: It's just tough Tony. Nice. We'll see. We'll talk to
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  Speaker 1: you on Sunday in New York. Yeah, I can't wait.
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  Speaker 1: You come in here Monday, Monday. I will not hold
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: my breath. We'll see. Will you be here Monday? Yeah?
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Well I want to be well. I don't know. If
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: you never know, they're golf on. As long as it's
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  Speaker 1: not a fake Sunday, I'll be here. Doug Barrone Show
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  Speaker 1: is coming up next on the Jaguars Radio Network. Thank
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