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Free Energy Is Closer Than You Think with Ashton Forbes | 5/22/26 · Pat Gray Unleashed

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  Speaker 1: Ed Gray is here on the Place Radio Network.
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  Speaker 2: Good Morning American Friday, and as such, we've got a
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  Speaker 2: special Friday show for you. We haven't done this in
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  Speaker 2: a while, but one of our favorite guests is Ashton Forbes,
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  Speaker 2: who showed us some pretty incredible stuff on MH three
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  Speaker 2: P seventy the airliner that they've never found. Nobody knows
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  Speaker 2: where it is, they haven't found the evidence of it crashing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's bizarre. Well, Ashton believes that it was teleported.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know, Ashton, by the way, where was it
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  Speaker 2: teleported to? Do you have a site for that? Now?
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  Speaker 3: Actually I did. Surprisingly, I do have a theory on
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  Speaker 3: where that plane went, and it's all related to this
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  Speaker 3: book that I've been reading called Faster than Light by
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  Speaker 3: David Fronian, who I think is one of the engineers
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  Speaker 3: of those orbs in those videos that you see. And
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  Speaker 3: it turns out that real teleportation, real actual translocation through
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  Speaker 3: a higher dimension like that, it actually requires some rules
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  Speaker 3: in our normal space time, like they might have to
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  Speaker 3: actually aim it like what they're doing in those videos
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  Speaker 3: in terms of why the orbs spin around the plane
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  Speaker 3: like that. OK, But we can jump into that later
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  Speaker 3: on as you can tell this is a topic that
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  Speaker 3: is so unbelievable that you can have a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people in the comments replying, Oh, that's so fake. There's
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  Speaker 3: no way that can be real. And what I would
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  Speaker 3: ask people while you're thinking through this is if you
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  Speaker 3: were me and you knew there was something that is
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  Speaker 3: so unbelievably unbelievable but also true, how would you act?
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  Speaker 3: How would you try to get that information out there?
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  Speaker 3: Because I'll tell you this, it doesn't play out like
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  Speaker 3: that you think it would play out in the movies,
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  Speaker 3: or maybe it does, where everybody just calls you crazy
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  Speaker 3: and everyone ignores you, And that fundamentally is the problem.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is not science. The problem is not the government.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is human psychology. Are inability to read books
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  Speaker 3: like this that just lay everything out in those videos,
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  Speaker 3: to listen to the engineers that have been telling us
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  Speaker 3: about this technology and we've ignored it and that's why
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  Speaker 3: they've been able to cover it up.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, it's it's a little disheartening, and it's got
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  Speaker 2: to be I mean, you've been on this for what
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  Speaker 2: almost three years now, and so it's got to be
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  Speaker 2: really frustrating.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I've been doing this for about three years,
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  Speaker 3: and I would say about after a year and a half,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of stopped investigating MH three seven zero because
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  Speaker 3: we figured out all we're going to find about evidence
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  Speaker 3: related plane. There's clearly a cover up going on with
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  Speaker 3: respect to that missing plane. If you think the United
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  Speaker 3: States government doesn't know what happened to a Boeing Triple
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  Speaker 3: seven that supposedly crashed into the ocean after on being
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  Speaker 3: on an eight hour joy ride, We've got satellites everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: We've got over the horizon radar systems. We can detect
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  Speaker 3: every whale in the ocean and every subarb, which.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about at the time. Actually, yes, we were, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: we were indignant over the fact that they said they
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  Speaker 2: couldn't find it, because of course they could find it,
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  Speaker 2: of course, of course.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And if you don't believe me, I can't show
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  Speaker 3: you these exactly, but I posted versions of these on
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  Speaker 3: my social media. This is a stack of Fouder requests
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  Speaker 3: from the CIA. All Glamour responses related to MH three
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  Speaker 3: seven zero related to maintenance records for their m Q
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  Speaker 3: nine Reaper drones related to their Gorgon Stare pods, which
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  Speaker 3: are recording those videos like I figured out everything, and
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  Speaker 3: I've been feuder requesting everything from them, and every single
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  Speaker 3: thing that's being met with rejection, including like a transcript
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  Speaker 3: of a communication that the US Navy supposedly intercepted of
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  Speaker 3: the plane having a may day and then a document
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  Speaker 3: related to the fate of MH three seven zero that
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  Speaker 3: was given to the Malaysian government from the United States.
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  Speaker 3: Why would that be glamour response? Or a fire suppression
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  Speaker 3: bottle that washed up in the mall Deeves as a
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  Speaker 3: Boeing Triple seven fire suppression bottle. Doesn't that anything about
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  Speaker 3: MH three seven zero than the fact that it's from
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  Speaker 3: the plane. Why would the CIA glamour response that if
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  Speaker 3: they don't have information about it? Right? So the evidence
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  Speaker 3: to me is overwhelming. There's something going on regarding the
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  Speaker 3: missing plane.
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  Speaker 2: And so is it on Diego Garcia? Is that where
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  Speaker 2: you think it wound up?
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  Speaker 3: So I think that the CIA conducted an operation. That's
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  Speaker 3: why we have two videos recording the plane. First question, well,
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  Speaker 3: who's recording that? Whose camera is that? It's two MQ
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  Speaker 3: nine Reaper drones, one horizontal, one above the plane. One's
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  Speaker 3: got gorgon starepods taking camera photos that they turn into
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  Speaker 3: a software system that they can monitor basically the whole world,
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  Speaker 3: I assume. And then the other drone is an advanced
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  Speaker 3: targeting pod. I believe it's a Littening G four by
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  Speaker 3: Northrope Grumman. It's actually a pod it would be used
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  Speaker 3: on like F sixteen's that they have hooked up to
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  Speaker 3: this drone, which I jokingly referred to as like putting
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  Speaker 3: like a rocket launcher on a donkey. Basically, so the
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  Speaker 3: CIA is conducting this operation. As to why, can't say
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  Speaker 3: exactly why, but it's clearly some type of espionage. I
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  Speaker 3: would say it's got to be China versus the United States,
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  Speaker 3: given the proximity, given the South China Sea, given the
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  Speaker 3: fact there's twenty engineers on the plane that we're working
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  Speaker 3: for an American company that were flying to Beijing. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the scenario seems pretty obvious. That's how to be generally.
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  Speaker 3: What was going on As to why they did this,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not entirely sure, but I can tell you that
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  Speaker 3: you know, John Brennan, James Clapper, Obama, Frank Archibald was
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  Speaker 3: the clandestine operations leader. And another name I'll drop is
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  Speaker 3: Glenn Gaffney was the Director of Science and Technology of
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  Speaker 3: the CIA. That's where this stuff is being hidden. The
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  Speaker 3: director to the Science and Technology of the CIA is
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  Speaker 3: where they're hiding this super advanced technology. And what they
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  Speaker 3: do is they call up their Lockheed Martin or their
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  Speaker 3: engineers that they know, and then they like set up
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  Speaker 3: a little side project with them and then they have
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  Speaker 3: them go build this crazy stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And that way it stays off the books.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't show up on Lockeed Martin Skunkwork's books, but
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  Speaker 3: they can still get paid for it, and they can
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  Speaker 3: still have that kind of arrangement as to what did
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  Speaker 3: they actually do with the plan, so you can tell
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  Speaker 3: it's a direct in it beam teleportation. This sounds crazy
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  Speaker 3: as hell, of course, because you would think, hey, if
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  Speaker 3: you can wormhole something, why can't you just wormhole it
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  Speaker 3: anywhere you want.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and in.
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  Speaker 3: Theory you can, but there are limitations in physics, and
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  Speaker 3: one of those is called the no communication theorem, which
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  Speaker 3: means that you can't signal faster than the speed of light,
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  Speaker 3: which means that in theory they say, oh, you can't
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  Speaker 3: do faster than like communication, you can do teleportation. But
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  Speaker 3: there's ways around this. And one of those ways is
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  Speaker 3: if you have an anchor, like if you have a
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  Speaker 3: preset anchor, you could think.
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  Speaker 4: About like a warp gate in sci fi.
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  Speaker 3: If you have an anchor like that, now you have
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  Speaker 3: a pre established connection bridge. Now you can get around
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  Speaker 3: that theorem. So what I think is happening specifically is
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  Speaker 3: that when they're spinning around that plane, they're aiming exactly
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  Speaker 3: the direction in which they want that plane to show
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  Speaker 3: up through an extra dimension. And then it goes in
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  Speaker 3: a straight line. You'd ask, well, where does it stop?
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  Speaker 3: And that's where your anchor comes into play. They aim
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  Speaker 3: at in a direction, it hits this point and there's an
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  Speaker 3: opposite polarity charge like let's say these orbs have a
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  Speaker 3: three positive charge polarity, then there's an opposite plarity, so
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  Speaker 3: it hits that point and then just re emerges in
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  Speaker 3: our space time.
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  Speaker 2: That is so cool. Is prettydamn I love that? But
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  Speaker 2: what about I mean, people say that the energy needed
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  Speaker 2: to do that is something that's beyond us. How do
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  Speaker 2: you respond to that.
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  Speaker 3: I've been researching this a lot, and Salvator Pisis of
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  Speaker 3: the US Navy is correct. There's something called in order
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  Speaker 3: to reach that level where the plane zaps out of
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  Speaker 3: the sky. You need to reach something called the Shwinger limit.
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  Speaker 3: Julian Schwinger, Nobel prized physicists said, if you get this
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  Speaker 3: energy density, meaning compacting amount of energy so dense, you
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  Speaker 3: reach this level where suddenly space time falls apart and
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  Speaker 3: the prote the anti particle pairs come out and they
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  Speaker 3: emerge from this limit. That's the limit we're trying to reach.
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  Speaker 3: So the problem is that's this huge amount of energy.
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  Speaker 3: It might be reachable by super powerful lasers if we
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  Speaker 3: like focus them on what have you. But really what
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  Speaker 3: we need to do.
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  Speaker 4: Is bring that energy level down.
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  Speaker 3: And that's where David Fronian comes into play. That's where
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  Speaker 3: Salvator Paise comes into play. They say, you need to
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  Speaker 3: condition the vacuum. So when we watch those videos, what
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  Speaker 3: could possibly be doing that? Number One, the way the
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  Speaker 3: orbs are spinning around the plane, almost like if you
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  Speaker 3: had a wine glass and you know you're gonna try
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  Speaker 3: to shatter it with sound, it's gonna start vibrating and
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  Speaker 3: jiggling a bit, like it starts to get disorointed, and
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  Speaker 3: then sh it shatters, kind of like that effect on
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  Speaker 3: space time. But there's something else. He says here as well,
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  Speaker 3: specifically on page I'm not sure exactly which pa in
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  Speaker 3: the nineties year on is faster than light chapter, he
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  Speaker 3: says that in order to get a unlabored acceleration, which
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  Speaker 3: is what he's referring to as this jump, a low
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  Speaker 3: energy jump, you have to have constant momentum, which means
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  Speaker 3: that this plane can't be accelerating. It also means it
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  Speaker 3: needs to be moving in a straight line as well.
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  Speaker 3: So it turns out there's a bunch of rules that
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  Speaker 3: are required if you want to be able to do
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  Speaker 3: this called it low energy phase transition jump, because when
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  Speaker 3: you watch those videos, the whole sky is not being
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  Speaker 3: blown away, so it's not using the amount of energy
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  Speaker 3: of Jupiter like they say when you need to make
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  Speaker 3: a wormhole. So the combination seems to be some oscillation
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  Speaker 3: of the electromagnetic fields, which is why these orbs are
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  Speaker 3: spinning around the plane that's white. And then the other
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  Speaker 3: combination is that you have to have these specific parameters.
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  Speaker 3: Plane has to be going straight, plane has to be
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  Speaker 3: going in at a constant speed, and that's why the
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  Speaker 3: orbs have to be spinning around it at that certain angle.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly vertical as well.
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  Speaker 3: So these seem to be the keys to getting that
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  Speaker 3: low energy wormhole and getting around what classic physics thinks
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  Speaker 3: is currently impossible.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. And again, do we believe that the passengers were
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  Speaker 2: able to survive that trip or they.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely could have.
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  Speaker 3: So what it comes down to the other side of
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  Speaker 3: the physics is that they're basically in a bubble. From
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  Speaker 3: their perspective, what they're doing is the plasma. When those
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  Speaker 3: plasma balls come together, they create a bubble of shell
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  Speaker 3: around the plane that displaces it, and it only has
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  Speaker 3: to be for a brief instant that's all it takes
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  Speaker 3: because then it's instantaneously somewhere else. So what this means
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  Speaker 3: from the perspective of the people inside, it would look
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  Speaker 3: like suddenly a curtain came down around you and then
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  Speaker 3: it just lifted and you're just somewhere else. That plane
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  Speaker 3: comes out flying the exact same speed that it came in,
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  Speaker 3: going the exact same direction that it came in, and
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  Speaker 3: it's in the air as well when it came out.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty correct.
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  Speaker 3: The problem of them being alive isn't going through the wormhole.
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  Speaker 3: The problem with them being alive is that that plane
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  Speaker 3: has smoke coming out of the back of it, and
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  Speaker 3: it had been flying for over an hour before it
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  Speaker 3: gets to where those right those are because we have corners. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so that's the bigger issue for me. So people want
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  Speaker 3: to hold out hope or whatever that they're still alive.
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  Speaker 3: They can do that, but I don't think so. And
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  Speaker 3: then last you have where did to go specifically, So
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  Speaker 3: we can tell based on the directional the rotation of
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  Speaker 3: the orbs are on the plane that the torque is
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  Speaker 3: sending this plane backwards. We tell the planes going to
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  Speaker 3: the east and the videos, so it means the plane's
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  Speaker 3: getting sent backwards to the west. West of the Nick
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  Speaker 3: of our Islands. Where those coordinates are is near the Maldives,
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  Speaker 3: near Diego Garcia, where the Islanders saw the plane. So
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  Speaker 3: my theory is either it landed at Diego Garcia and
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  Speaker 3: they took it apart or something, or do whatever they
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  Speaker 3: did with they burnt it or they ditched it in
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  Speaker 3: the ocean, just somewhere near Maldives and nowhere near where
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  Speaker 3: they've been searching, and nobody has just looked in the
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  Speaker 3: right spot.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, I tell you, man I Ashin, I'm so grateful
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  Speaker 5: for you and the way you are single handedly following
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  Speaker 5: this trail. It's so much bigger than Image three seventy now,
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  Speaker 5: and just appreciate your efforts in looking under every rock
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  Speaker 5: and going to and pulling every threat available to you.
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  Speaker 2: Because almost nobody would do this. I don't think seriously,
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  Speaker 2: when they've gotten the resistance it's that you've gotten, they
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  Speaker 2: just give up on it, coming front to your aid
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  Speaker 2: and say hey, can we can you shoulder some of
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  Speaker 2: this burden? You're out there doing this single handedly?
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  Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, not to do my home.
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  Speaker 3: But nobody is doing this. It's just a reality. No
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  Speaker 3: one's doing this, and that's why people say ash And
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  Speaker 3: if you're mean to people, no one will talk to you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, if somebody else want to talk about this content,
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  Speaker 3: please do.
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  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.
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  Speaker 5: So, where do you since that the genesis of this
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  Speaker 5: technology originated Nikolai Tesla? Somewhere else? I mean, where did
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  Speaker 5: it start?
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  Speaker 3: Sure?
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  Speaker 4: The origin?
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  Speaker 3: The origin is definitely Tesla, Tesla, Cluza Cline. Quantum mechanics
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  Speaker 3: like this is all a matter of us trying to
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  Speaker 3: unify quantum mechanics with general relativity quantum entanglement. We see
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  Speaker 3: two things that are interacting faster than the speed of
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  Speaker 3: light given their distance, and we go, how is that possible? Right?
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  Speaker 3: The answer is obvious. There's an extra dimension. That's the
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  Speaker 3: only way two things that are super far apart can
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  Speaker 3: seemingly be connected. There's an invisible connection between them. And
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  Speaker 3: Tesla thought this. They called it the ether, and we
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  Speaker 3: got rid of the ether. Now, maybe their original idea
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  Speaker 3: of the ether is this, you know, fluid medium that
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  Speaker 3: we're like kind of moving through. Isn't exactly right, but
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  Speaker 3: it's it's mostly right. It's zero point energy, and that
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  Speaker 3: explains gravity, That explains inertia, explains why we can't find
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  Speaker 3: this dark energy dark matter. It also allows for that
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  Speaker 3: free energy because now this potential zero point energy that's
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  Speaker 3: out there, we think of it as nothing, But what
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  Speaker 3: if it's like a really really deep well of energy.
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  Speaker 3: Now that's an access of unlimited energy. But the real
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  Speaker 3: key is this. This is what I want you guys
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  Speaker 3: to know. Plasmoids exotic vacuum objects. They come in plasmoids
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  Speaker 3: and well plasmoids. That sounds like some new age hippie
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  Speaker 3: thing that someone would say on you know, some nutrition show.
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  Speaker 3: You got to get your plasmoids in your blood stream.
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  Speaker 3: Or whatever. But turns out plasmoids are the secret to
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  Speaker 3: all of this, and what we call them now is
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  Speaker 3: field reverse configuration. Actually turns out it's the i would say,
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  Speaker 3: number one fusion methodology of the top fusion companies in
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  Speaker 3: the world right now, including the company that Trump's media
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  Speaker 3: group just bought tri alpha energy field reverse configuration. And
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  Speaker 3: what it is the secret to it is something called
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  Speaker 3: high beta. This is the the relationship between the magnetic
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  Speaker 3: pressure of your plasma and the plasma pressure.
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  Speaker 4: Pushing out the magnetic fields.
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  Speaker 3: So what happens is plasma a separation of electrons from
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  Speaker 3: your ions, creates this soup of electrons and ions that
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  Speaker 3: are moving around. But these electrons and ions have electromagnetic
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  Speaker 3: fields themselves. So when this gets dense enough, we found
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  Speaker 3: something unusual happens. When your plasma gets dense enough, compact
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  Speaker 3: enough down, it pushes out the magnetic fields. It expels
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  Speaker 3: them out. But this happens when the plasma pressure and
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  Speaker 3: the magnetic field pressure roughly balance out, roughly when they're
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  Speaker 3: equal to one. So you can imagine this this tenuous balance.
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  Speaker 3: We call this a high beta plasma. And it turns
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  Speaker 3: out this high beta plasma is the most efficient method
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  Speaker 3: of doing fusion just from a math perspective, Like these
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  Speaker 3: metal donuts Tokamac reactors they're building, like Commonwealth fusion, those
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  Speaker 3: have a beta around ten percent. These betas of neer
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  Speaker 3: one are going to be roughly ten times more efficient
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  Speaker 3: using the same exact magnetic fields. Now, the last thing
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  Speaker 3: I want to say on this, which is something that
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  Speaker 3: jack Na Champion figured out.
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  Speaker 4: He was an Air Force research lab scientist.
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  Speaker 3: He figured out these high beta plasmas they don't just
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  Speaker 3: push out the magnetic fields and begin to act like superconductors.
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  Speaker 4: They also push out the zero point energy. And this
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  Speaker 4: is huge because this means these high beta plasmas are
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  Speaker 4: going to act just like the Kasmir effect in quantum mechanics.
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  Speaker 4: And the Kasmir effect is when.
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  Speaker 3: We say we put these two plates together, and we
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  Speaker 3: just watched them the two plates like this, and they
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  Speaker 3: come together automatically when they're close enough together, and you
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  Speaker 3: would say, well, what's the force pulling these things together?
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  Speaker 3: I didn't touch them, And the force is the zero
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  Speaker 3: point energy. That's the negative energy. That's the negative energy
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  Speaker 3: we need for the wormhole. And but this is also
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  Speaker 3: a force that you imagine these plates come together, I
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  Speaker 3: could use that force to charge a battery. Robert Forward
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  Speaker 3: showed that in nineteen eighty four. Well, now I just
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  Speaker 3: told you if we make a high data plasma plasmoid,
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  Speaker 3: if we oscillate those walls of that plasmoid, it should,
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  Speaker 3: in theory function the same way as the Kasmi effect,
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  Speaker 3: because it's pushing out zero point energy.
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  Speaker 4: The same way the Kasmir effect is. So what am
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  Speaker 4: I saying here?
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I'm saying those fusion companies that are doing these plasmids,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: they're about to stumble upon free energy, and they might
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: already have and might that's maybe why they're not allowed
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: to be bigger than they are right now.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Absolutely despicable as they have it and they're keeping it
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: from the world. Despicable. Oh let me add one more thing.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: You asked about cold fusion. Yeah, because I want to
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: make people understand what this means. It is really cold fusion.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: It's cold fusion because if you can control space time,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: and you can say, okay, there's two atoms here and
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: they're repelling each other and they're stuck like this, Well,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: if I reduce the distance between them by changing space time,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: manipulating space time Suddenly they can come together at much
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: lower energy, which means they can come together at much
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: lower temperatures. So now you don't need temperatures as hot
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: as the Sun to get fusion to happen. So when
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: you look at those orbs of plasma spinning around H
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: three seven zero, you say, why aren't they white hot
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: if they're doing fusion ash And why aren't they white hot?
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Because they're doing something beyond fusion. Fusion is trivial to them.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: They've got full on space time manipulation going on, which
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: allows them to do fusion at lower energy levels and
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: for it to be super coherent where you see this clear,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: clear like orange slice in them. So this is something
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: where guys, it's even beyond them figuring out fusion. It's
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: even beyond them figuring out teleportation. They've just figured out
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: the base layer of reality space time manipulation.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Could you not also apply this to space travel? This
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: kind of technology.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: My question on space travel is if I'm right and
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: it really is a directed beam, now you've got a
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: whole bunch of limitations. You might have to like send
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: the probe to Alpha Centauri before we can teleport there.
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: Oh, so you can.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: See that there could be limitations to them, although still
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: in that situation we could just send something tiny at
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: the speed of light and it could get there in
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: a few years. So if that is limitation, then yes,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: we can still do this for interstellar travel. And a
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: lot of these guys that the engineers that I found
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: that I think clearly helped build this for the government,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: they've explored a lot of these options. In fact, Robert Bussard,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: his idea was that this big collector that would collect
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: hydrogen out of the space and then turn it into
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: a fusion reactor. And the reason why they ended up
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: shooting it down if you read about it, is that
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: there's not enough hydrogen and outer space, like outer space
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: is too empty because it just doesn't have enough hydrogen.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Even if you made your huge net, we won't be
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: able to get get.
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: When we have our moon base.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, and we're gonna send all the woke people of
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: the moon base. They're going to harvest that helium three
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: for us, you know that's the plan. They're gonna love
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: it up there. We'll give them internet, they'll have starlink
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: up there. We'll get all that helium three for our
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: fusion reactors like that. But one more thing. Helium three
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: is one of three a neutronic fusion fuels. Not only
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: do these high beta plasmas have the let's say, possibility
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: of tapping into zero point energy, but also they can
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: because they can reach super high temperatures or cause fusion
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: to happen at lower temperatures.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: We've now unlocked the.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Best fusion fuels that exist helium three, which is on
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: the moon boor on eleven, which is actually plentiful everywhere,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: and lithium six. These three fusion fuels don't release harmful neutrons,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: and the best part, the energy they convert is not steam,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: not heat. We don't use the steam cycle for this,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: We can do directed energy conversion. To me, this is
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: like forget all them made streets into your videos, ignore
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: all that, just paying attention to the fact that we've
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: unlocked directed energy conversion and all sources of power on
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: this planet are obsolete. Like direct energy conversion is three
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: times more efficient than any steam cycle anywhere on the planet,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: and every source of power we use a steam.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: You mentioned hitting the speed of light? Are you getting
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of flak from einstein theory of relativity?
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: People?
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Where you can't you can never reach the speed of light,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: and do you ask questions and do you exceed that?
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: With the bubble that you're talking about, right, it's almost
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: like a warp bubble.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: It is a warp bubble. Yeah, And so I actually
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: don't get much pushback on that. I wish I got more.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I want to debate physicists on this because I've I've
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: already asked all these questions. I'm constantly wondering, like, hey,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: if you can wormhole something, what about causality? That's ultimately
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: what your question is, right, Like, yep, doesn't this violate
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: causality or like what would happen? First point? First thing
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I would say is we should be a little bit
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: afraid of the possibility, even if we think it's not possible.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: And I don't think it's possible.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I think that nature breaks down retro causality, so that
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: if you try to change the past, if you were
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: to do something that's going to try to change the past,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: nature just won't let you. If you're going to go
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: try to teleport in a way that's going to cause
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: a co create a causality violation, it just won't work.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: It'll just fail. It just won't to happen. And the
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: reason why I say this is John Kramer is one
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: of the top EPR physicists out of the University of Washington.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: He worked with these guys worked on the NASA BPP
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: and his most recent experimental results in like twenty fourteen
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: twenty fifteen seem to show that when they do these
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: EPR experiments and do retro causality, because they can set
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: it up in the experiment so that it should be
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: retro causal like, somehow it just doesn't work. Somehow the
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: pattern that should form just doesn't form, which presents this
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: idea that nature is somehow blocking it from occurring. But
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: this means too that as long as there is that
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: tunnel that anchor, it is still possible to teleport without
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: violating causality at all.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: One example would be that the plane.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Doesn't go to the past, and it doesn't even go
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: to the far future. It just goes to the now,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: like it disappears here and it reappears over here.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: There's no violation of.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Energy at that point, right the plane disappeared here, reappeared here.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Energy is the same on both sides. So the other
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: possibilities that it goes to the future, but it's time dilated,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: So what that would mean is it's going to show
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: up in the future, however long it.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Takes light to get to that point.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: So you take the total distance from the hyperspace or
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: whatever that it traveled or the real distance that we
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: would calculate, divide it by the speed of light, and
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: that's when the plane will appear on the other side,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: so probably a fraction of a second later, and that
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: prevents her from being any causality violations that could have occurred.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: We usually the way a causality violation is gonna occur
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: is because someone's gonna make two wormholes, Like you're gonna
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: make one wormhole here and a second wormhole, and now
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: you're gonna have weird things going on where like somebody
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: should be able to.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Go back in time.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: But the way they get around this is that it's
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: not a portal that's just open. It's a thing that
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: they do that's a one way hop we have, right
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: They they surround you, boop, and now you're gone on
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: the other side. So I think a combination of those,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: or any one of those is the answer to your question.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Is that you can go to the future. You can
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: instantly relocate, But you're not gonna go like to nineteen
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: fifty and you know, have sex with your grandma or whatever.
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: Sorry Jeffy Okay, so hold on, sorry people out there. Yeah,
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: you talked about uh, the CIA was watching in Makes
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: three seventy. I guess my question is gonna be a
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: little messy here, so attacking any any way you want.
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: My question is do you think that only specific parts
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: of our government are familiar with this technology? Do you
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: think it's far reaching?
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Do you think the military has access to this kind
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: of technology?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: And if so, why haven't they used it? Used it yet?
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Or have they used it? And we just don't know.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: Why aren't we shooting out Iranian missiles? So take that
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: however you want to. I'm just curious how how widespread
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: is this kind of teleportation knowledge that throughout our government it's.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Getting more widespread.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Ask yourself, well, why is nobody in the last three years,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: no government official, no military ever spoken about those videos publicly? Ever,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: it's because they can't legally talk about them. So it's
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: getting more widespread. And I would say it was hyper compartmentalized,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: like nobody knew about this.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Even generals didn't know we had this technology. It was
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: the kind of thing.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: That is secret at the highest possible levels that.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Is only broken out in like nuclear winter or if
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: like an asteroid is about to literally hit DC, then
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: maybe they'll go wipe that asteroid out, but they'll probably
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: just say they did it with something else. So this
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: is the kind a weapon as a trump card, and
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: that's why you're not seeing it. That's why you don't
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: see it predominantly in the military. That's why you don't
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: see us using it against Iran, which we wouldn't use
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: against them anway, because they're not technologically advanced enough for
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: us to even have to use this way in small potatoes, right,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: But this is why we're taking them out now, because
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: they're engineers, they're watching people like me. They're not working,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: they're not building an atomic bomb. They're trying to build
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: some kind of super weapon out of plasma and using
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: space time manipulation property. That's what we're really afraid of.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: That's something that is an actual fear, not someone enriching
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: uranium and doing this huge state sponsored operation. Sure, that's
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: a side fear, but that's not the one they're really
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: afraid of. So that's the reason why we generally don't
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: see it out on the military. Like, for an example,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: David Froni, the guy that built it for them, in
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: terms of perspective on when they thought this would become
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: publicly available, his book, which is less than ten years old,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: says that we would develop fusion propulsion in twenty twenty twenties,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: which we're doing right now. I think is Jeff Bezos
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: is a star star something around there. He's got a
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: fusion rocket. And then he says we're going to Mars
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: in twenty thirty. He says, we'll start to develop field propulsion,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: which is this gravity propulsion. By twenty forty, he says,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: first human Outer Planet Expedition twenty sixty, develop relativistic field propulsion,
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: that's the teleportation twenty seventy. So this guy, the guy
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: that literally built it for them, already was thinking that
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: we got to wait another thirty five forty fifty years
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: before we even begin to get this technology.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: With the scientist AI, well that's gonna happen way faster.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's a great point. I use AI every day,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: and I don't use it like, Hey, Grock, is this real? No?
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I say, like, gro can you compare this scientific paper
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: to this other paper.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: Don't keep down to people that do that. Don't do
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: it yet, I'd be.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Like, I love you, Grady, please marry me. We're gonna
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be I give you all those weddings I
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: married my AI. I guess I hope you guys cover it. No,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: but it's a good resource and it does make it
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: harder for them to hide. Also, with respect to how
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: the orbs are able to fly around, they have to
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: be using some kind of quantum computer AI or supercomputer
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: to control those orbs, to get them to lock into
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: the plane, to get them to stay in perfect formation.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: So there's so many secrets that get exposed from those
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: videos that I can't even blame the government the CIA
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: for trying to discredit them or make them go away.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Because we're talking fusion, free energy, teleportation, black operation, and
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: against the civilian airliner. We've got the whole gamut their
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: surveillance systems that they didn't want anybody to know about,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: AI that they probably didn't want anybody to know about.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: It's that's got to be the biggest league of classified
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: information ever. I'm actually a little disappointed that the only
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: thing they really did to like preemptively debunk these videos
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: was take that Gorgon stair whammy photos and they put
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: them on the internet on my birthday in twenty fourteen.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: And now everybody says all these videos are fake because
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: there's these cloud photos that perfectly matched, and I'm like, well,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: look at when they got uploaded.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Like clearly the CIA found these videos.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Leaked on the internet. They were like, oh, how will
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: we discredit these Oh we'll just take the footage that
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: we got and we'll just you know, put some blank
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: photos and make it look like somebody made these videos.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: And it seems to work on a lot of people,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: which is, you know, a little sad. But what I'll
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: say is this for the people that are disbelievers. I
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: found the guy that leaked the videos, Edward Lynn. He
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: legally changed his name to Edward Soraya right after I
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: started calling his name out publicly, because he spent six
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: years in prison overleaking those videos and nobody was able
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: to figure out what it was that he did.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Still to this day, no one really even knows.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: So I found the guy that leaked the videos, I
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: found the assets that were involved the reapers. I found
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: the people who did it, the CIA. I know the
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: people who are responsible, Obama, the entire administration.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: And all it would take for any of this.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: To come out is us to literally get the IMHU
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: some zero files and documents, which I know they have.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: I've got all the FOID request in Niles. Literally, anyone
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: just to ask about the missing plane. I mean Obama
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: almost certainly had to sign off on the operation personally,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: So just ask someone in the administration. And here's the
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: best part. This is what I want to tell you.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: I've personally seen an email that went to Marco Rubio
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: as then probably the guy who's going to be the
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: next president. I'm voting for him, and it's talking about
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: those videos and the ball light meeting and all the
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: science around them. And I've shared that email on social media.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say more about it because it's
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: freaking email and went to Marco Rubio, But hey, I
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: say you might guys, don't want to avoid of that one.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: All right. We got much more with Astrod Forbes coming up.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: This fascinating barely scratched the surface, but we'll scratch at
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: it more.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Coming up.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Pat Gray the Blaze Radio Network. This is Pep Gray.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Unleashed and welcome to it.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Fascinating discussion this morning with our friend Ashton Forbes, who
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: is not only on image three seventy you know, the
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: disappearance of the Malaysian flight from what twelve years ago?
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: Now that now don't even care.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I'm way beyond that, care way beyond that.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: And Ashton, what is your YouTube channel where you post
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: so much good stuff?
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: Oh?
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I changed my Twitter account, so I'm Ashton
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Forbes on Twitter now my YouTube is just Ashton. I'm
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: also on Rumble. A lot of people prefer Rumble. I
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: think I'm just I'm just Ashton on Rumble and just
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: ex Ashton, I think on YouTube. But if you look
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: at Ashon Forbes, you guys should be able to find
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: my content pretty much anywhere you get, you know, audio
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: or video podcasts. Is just trying to disseminate the information
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: out there. And I'm not selling anything. I don't sell
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: a books or anything like that. I have a normal
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: job that I do just to set the record straight
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: for people. This is just the second thing that I
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: do because I think it's important for the world to
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: know the truth. And ultimately, if you ask me where
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: I stand on all this, I would actually agree with
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: the suppression. You know, I think that, especially for my
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: interactions with people, humanity is not really ready for this technology.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: We probably do need to wait another fifty years.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: But really fifty years, oh maybe longer.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I mean, have you looked around at the average
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: person on this planet.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: Well, we were just talking about that that you know,
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: so much of this is above everyone's head. Yeah, and
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: you know, I mean it's about a lot of it
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: is above mine. I'm sure Pat and Keith understand every
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: nook and cranny of it, but you know, yeah, with
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: so many people, well you know, they're just lost. It
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: is lost in the shuffle with this. So it's like, yeah,
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: whatever you say.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Plus, I mean, this is technology so far beyond what
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: we're aware of that it's hard for people to grabs, right,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: but they should at least be open to the possibility
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: and explore it and listen with an open mind.
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: When we all taught about Tesla anyway, thinking that everything.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Had energy and and the Tesla stuff, he was more
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: than a century ahead of his time. So uh, you know,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: maybe we finally caught up to Tesla here and just
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: found a way to make some of the stuff happen.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: I hope so.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: But your explanation on because I know that this is
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: probably something you've faced since the war with Iran. The
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: explanation again for why we're not just sending Iran's missiles
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: back to Tehran is it's just not worth it at
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: this point, right, It's it's too small potatoes to really
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: deal with.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, is your house being hit by a missile?
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: No. This is why people like when people try to
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: say we're losing the war and Iran just kind of laugh, like,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: we're under no threat in the United States and we're
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: in the middle of a war, so you know, to
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: think that we're somehow losing or the disadvantage in any
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: way shape or for him now, No, I mean the
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: reality of Iran is this. They never had any hope
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: or chance. I mean, we just we are so far
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: beyond them and we control the whole planet. That's why
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: we have this technology, is why Russia and China didn't
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: step in when we just hurged their number one.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: Ally, I don't think the RAND knows that you keep
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: saying that, But I don't think the RAND knows that.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: Hopefully they do. I want to believe that they do.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the people that probably knew are now dead, right,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Like they killed all their leadership off like pretty much instantaneously.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: And so yes, we're in a situation where you know
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: that this sounds kind of rude, but the primitives don't
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: even know what's going on in terms of like the
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: technology that they're up against. So that's the reality situation.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Right And and along that point that you're making there,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: surely our rivals, America's rivals know exactly what kind of
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: technology we have, right In other words, China has to know.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: And I guess my question would be, is that why
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: the Image three demonstration took place because of the connection
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: with China. They're on board.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: If you believe the letter to Ashton Forbes, which was
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: what was called Diego Garcia whistleblower, a letter to Ashton Forbes.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Somebody in the CIA sent me that letter. I mean
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: he even talked about the plasmoids before I even understood
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: what the plasmoids were.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: That layer basically says.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: That this was a message to China and that the
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: United States has controlled this technology and it's not aliens,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: and that we haven't revealed this technology because if any
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: two warring factions were to get it, it's the end
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: of the world. Like it's the end of the world
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: in one day or less. And so you can imagine
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: that we did a demonstration on m A Street seven
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: zero to show China where they stand in the pecking
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: order on this planet, right and if you look at
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: what they've done in the last ten years since then
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: or twelve years, it's not very much against us. They
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: kind of stopped contesting the South China Sea as well
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: after that, which was a big political thing at the time.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: So what I would tell people from a political perspective,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: and this is what I think about a lot, is
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: who would you want to have this technology? Can you
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: trust somebody or a culture that is willing to strap
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: a bomb to themselves and blow themselves up just to
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: get back at you. Can you trust somebody like that
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: with infinite energy, with teleportation technology that can teleport a
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: nuke without you having any deterrent whatsoever.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: Like I think that this is what the Marco Rubios in.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: The world are thinking about when they're advising Trump is
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: they're thinking, how do we keep the planet safe while
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: this technology exists undeniably and then weighing that against what
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: is best for a free republic. For are we even
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: free human beings? If this is this huge secret's being
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: kept from us? So how do you weigh those two things.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: It's a moral quandary that I struggle with every day.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: So how much of this information do you think President
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: Trump is personally aware of?
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: He knows about that we have have these super weapons.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I don't think he knows exactly how the quantum mechanics works,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: but he doesn't need to, right.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: All he needs to know is we can make things disappear.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: We have energy sources that you know, they'll call them
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: breakthrough energy sources or.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Something like that.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: And that's why there's no coincidence that Trump media group
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: bought up trialf Energy or merged with them, because they
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: know what's going on behind the scenes there. They know
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: that basically, I'm guessing Trialf Energies has their hands tied
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: by the Department of Energy and just can't do what
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: they really want to know.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: That's that's what what Trump was saying to Zijingping last week. Right,
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: you know what we got for you?
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Just do he says it. People just don't believe him
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: because Trump says a lot of bluster, but he straight
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: up says it openly. He says, you know, he said,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: we have weapons. Nobody understands. Nobody else is even close.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: He repeated that exactly like multiple times. He has science
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: and technology advisors said that he literally said, we have
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: what we can manipulate time and space. I don't think
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: I think actually literally right. So here's another thoughts being free,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: because I like talking about the politics aspect of this
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: is you would say, if you have this technology and
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: now there's this guy on social media just.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: Blasting it to the world showing videos of your.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Operation, wouldn't you want to leverage the advantage that you
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: still have with the time that you still have an
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: advantage because eventually China's going to figure it out. Eventually,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Russia is going to figure it out. If I can
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: reverse engineer it, they're going to So you need to
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: use this advantage while you have it, because otherwise you're
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: going to lose that advantage. And I think that might
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: be part of the reason why we're seeing Venezuela, why
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: we're seeing Iran, why am maybe seeing Cuba in a
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: little bit here, because now's the time.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it makes sense. So it kind
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: of makes sense that they're not sharing that with Americans
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: or the rest of the world because they're going to
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: be trying to steal it anyway. China's trying to steal
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: everything we have as it is.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: So this get it when China reveals it.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Right, when China reveals their high beta field reverse configuration,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: fusion reacted literally like, okay, heal you infusion, Go ahead
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: and give us the one that's ten times better than that,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: and we'll be like, wait, where was that hiding this
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: whole time? Oh, you know, underneath the rug over here. Uh.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: But that suppression, I think is huge.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: And this is why, like, there's a valuable lesson that
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: we need to learn from this is that I'm not
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: a PhD scientist. I'm a healthcare I guy. I just
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: came off all I did. I didn't do any experiments.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: I didn't run any you know, experiments or anything like that.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: I haven't even read a signific paper yet. All I
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: did was just read books, watch the videos of the
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: engineers whistleblowing about the stuff that they've been developing. And
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: yet nobody seems to figure this out. I look at
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: the UFO community, nobody's like, maybe other than a couple
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: people nobody's even really.
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: Close to this put it together.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: And this is what made it so easy for the
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: CIA to be to lie to us. So what we
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: have to do now is we have to be much
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: more vigilant. For example, they're talking about this CIA guy
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: now in the UFO communie, is that he's stopping Trump
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: from getting these UFO files or whatever. We need to
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: be on that guy's ass because I think he literally is.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: It's just this isn't about aliens. This is about like,
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: the CIA has got some crazy technology and they don't
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: want to tell us the truth about it, and if
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: it comes out, they're gonna have no way to lie
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: about it anymore. So this is why they're fighting so
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: back hard against Trump. I think, and I think we're
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: about to see a whole bunch of videos get released
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: that are going to corroborate what I'm telling you guys
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: here today that we're not.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: Gonna see aliens.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: You're not gonna see little green men in these videos
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: they're about to release.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: You're gonna see orbs flying around in the sky.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: You're gonna see orbs coming together, maybe in triangle formations
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: and breaking apart, and you're gonna look at that and
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: you go, there's no earthly explanation for that, and I
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: would say, yes, there is, what I belid.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: You that's incredible.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that is such an interesting point that you made
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: there when you say remain vigilant. I think it's it's
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: incredible how so much of this stuff is out there
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: in the open, but they're buried in presentations inside convention centers.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: You know, little geeks will get.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: Together and there'll be these these video files that have
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: set on the web for ten twelve years, and then
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: you go and find them and you pull out these nuggets.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: Because while it is a conspiracy as far as the
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: definition goes, these guys are proud of their work and
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: they make it a point to drop these little Easter
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: eggs for you to find. And I just think it's
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: been fascinating to watch you uncover this stuff.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: That's my favorite part. Yeah, I love uncovering the Easters.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm on the Daily Show, you know,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: back in the old days when it was good, when
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: they would just have clips of people and they're like, oh,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: here's a clip I found the views saying this or that. Right,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: It's like I watched this video of pulses and David
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Fronian in this book literally references pauls'es a Saint Louis
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: University says he helped him build their scramjet fusion reactor
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: propulsion drone thing. And I'm watching a clip of the
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: guy and he's explained, like, we can't let the lights
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: go off. We have to consider all ideas, even if
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: they're crazy. And he's clearly talking about, you know, the
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: space that manipulation fusion tech. And he goes, and if
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: we're not careful, there's going to be one of these
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: over the White House. And he shows a slide on
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: the old overhead projectors and it's a UFO flying saucer.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: And he's going, and this is a microwave, you know,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: radio device thing and one of these is over the
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Kremlin in right now. And I'm going, is anyone watching this?
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: I'm like, over the people in the audience thinking this
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: guy's like an aerospace engineer forty years. At the end
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: of his presentation, suddenly he's like, guys, and we can't
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: turn the lights off because hey, there's man made UFOs
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: flying over the Kremlin. They're going to be here if
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: we don't build them. I'm like, what. I just look
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: at this stuff, and that's why I'm like, man back
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: in the old days. I used to drink a lot
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: of Martinez when I was watching this because I'm like,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know how else I get through this otherwise.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's chilling. It really is. How long do
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: you think we've had For instance, you, because you believe
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: that we've had a lot of technology that we might
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: be aware of or we might not long before it's
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: been disclosed to the to the public, how long do
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: you think we've had AI available?
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Good question. I go back to that letter to Ash
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: and Forbes.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: One of the creepiest things it's said is that this
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: technology took off with AI and quantum computers in the
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: two thousands, and that's when AI we started learning about
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: what quantum computers even were. Sycamore quantum computer I think
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: was nineteen ninety eight, so I'm guessing they were building
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: supercomputers in the nineties. The government was, and that they
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: hit AI, like what we have is AI now. They
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: hit that probably in the early two thousands. And the
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: reason why they say it's important is they say that
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: what was previously difficult for humans because of linear programming
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: you know, like trying to imagine trying to program responses
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: in one at a time super slow a computer. Like
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: when I talked to the AI, it's like it scouts
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: everything and responds to me within a second.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: Right, So that's the kind of ability that would now allow.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Those orbs to start to create these formations lock in
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: and triangle formation. And this I didn't mention this earlier,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: but this is another one of the key aspects of
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: how you amplify the energy. You have to have more
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: than one thing. You need more than one thing interacting,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: and that can create an array and amplification effect if
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: you just have one thing and can't do that. So
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: this is also why you're seeing these orbs informations because
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: what they found is one of the requirements is you
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: have to have like three of these things and then
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: they have to either spin or do other information to
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: mess around with their electromagnetic fields. And they have to
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: do that in a very precise specific way. And that's
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: all these conditions they need in order to manipulate space
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: time lower that Shwinger limit to allow for these low.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Energy phase jumps to occur.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: I don't even know what else they can do, but
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: the letter to ash Force basically says that the secret
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: is not the teleportation.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: That's just one aspect of the technology.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: The underlying technology that discovered is really this plasmoid technology
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: that can under that can do propulsion, teleportation, free energy.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: And this is why when you guys look at the
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: lore about the science, you find all these topics are
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: related to each other because it's all unified under the
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: same the same physics. One last story I want to
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: tell you, which you guys can probably riff off of.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: There's a guy named Faris Williams. He was a Navy engineer.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: He never got a PhD, even though he was offered
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I think a couple of honorary PhDs, because he didn't
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: believe in the academic system. In fact, he corrected our
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: thermonuclear weapons yield calculations by fifty percent. You say, how
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: could you be off by fifty percent. They had a
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: huge tribunal over it where he went up against all
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: the Navy's top rass and physicists, and he ended up winning.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: He ended up showing them just a calculator.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: He's right. And how what was the proof? It's been classified?
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: No one knows this day. But if you read his physics.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: You'll know the answer right away. He has a five
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: D theory where he says, there's one dimension that we
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: missed mass energy density is the energy that we missed,
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: and that torque spin is the key that couples electromagnetism
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: with gravity. And so there's this guy out there basically
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: that you know, after he discovered this, after he won
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: this battle with them, and nobody has explained how he
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: figured this out. He basically decided that all physics and
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: all the experts in the world are probably just idiots
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: and they don't know what they're talking about. And he
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: came up his own theories and he started building, you know,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: fusion reactors and things for the government, working with some
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: of the people mentioned right here. Actually, so it's pretty
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: interesting how all these guys are connected and how all
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: this information is just publicly available but no one's really
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: been paying attention.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Wow, it's it's staggered. It's certainly so stunning that you know,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: it leaves you speechless.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I am curious, And I don't know if
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: there's enough time here in the break to get into this,
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: but do you think any of this is connected to
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: the USS Manhattan?
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: What was that was that in the forties. I really
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: don't know, Eldrich.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, you're talking about Philadelphia experiment, a Phildelph experiment. Yeah.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Do you think any of this is all connected the
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: same DNA?
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Sure? Almost certainly, I think right like, how can there
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: be a story about US teleporting a battleship tied to Einstein,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Tesla and Thomas Townsend Brown and not be connected this.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: I think they had to if they were messing around
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: with high energy electromagnetic fields and they kind of accidentally
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: figured out more manipulated space time. The other one is
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: the high altitude nuclear tests in the sixties. They would
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: have been producing those high beta plasmoids incidentally intentionally or not,
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: and that's when they definitely figured out that, you know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: these high energy conditions can manipulate space time for sure.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: In fact, Castle Bravo, remember the nuclear test that was
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: the yield was two point five times higher than they expected.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: It was fifteen megatons when they expected six megatons.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: And they said, oh, we added some lithium.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Uh. The reason was because they were accidentally cohering extra
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: energy from the vacuum and so then they had to
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: come up with an excuse. Oh, it was just some
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: extra lithium. Lithium alone is not making your detonation two
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: and a half times bigger. So this is where I
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: would say, guys like, look at the history of nuclear
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: weapons and ask why did we stop doing nuclear weapons
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: testing right out after those high altitude nuclear weapons sets?
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Because we figured it out?
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow, and thanks for correcting me.
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, US's Eldridge in Philadelphia. The Philadelphia Experiment that that is, uh,
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: that's creepy if you look into that stuff.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and I think people think that the because
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: of the movie. They just think the Philadelphia Experiment was
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: pure fiction.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Right, Oh I didn't know that.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a great there's.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: A lot around it too, like dude saying they went
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: back in time and all this little weird stuff, and
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: I'm going like, you know, how much of this is
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: like true versus how much is this like story that
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: was added on to it? So ultimately we don't need
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: that to be true for any of this other stuff.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: I just think it's an interesting, you know history lower point.
• 47:41
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  Speaker 2: we just had UFO files being released and we've been
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: through some of it, and I've seen some of the files.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Its still just kind of smudges on a screen. I'm
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: not sure that I don't know what we're looking at.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: But did you go Have you gone through them? And
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: do you think there's anything fascinating? What stands out to
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: you among the files?
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: A couple of them are interesting. I think there's a
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: photo of like the moon that supposedly has three dots
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: if you zoom in, you know. But I kind of
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: agree with you. Generally, the quality of the evidence so
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: far has been poor. I think they've promised higher quality footage.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: Maybe by the time this airs will have seen some
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: of that footage. I've got my fingers crossed. Other things
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: that I saw, I mean, I saw the ones that
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: people have been the monkey and is parachutes or whatever.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: I'm not I'm on the fence either way. I'm not
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: invested in that.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: I did see one that was a story that came
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: with just an artist rendering that claimed that there was
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: an ellipsoid object that appeared out of nowhere and then
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: disappeared again as well, and that multiple witnesses saw it.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: That one I thought was interesting because obviously we're watching
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: a plane get phased out of the sky by three orbs.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: So if it has happened once, like you guys said,
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: has it happened again, and has people seen it? Have
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: people recorded it? I mean, obviously the best possible outcome
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: would be if these new videos they're about to release
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: forty plus videos, if there's something being teleported in one
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: of them, something just disappears out of the sky.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: But I don't think we can expect that.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: I think more likely what we would potentially end up
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: seeing is we'll see three plasma orbs like come together
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: in a triangle formation and then possibly break apart.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: And start to float away.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Separately, and we'll look at that and we'll go, Okay,
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: that's going to be very difficult to explain as skydivers
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: or birds or or whatever other explanations people will come
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: up with, especially when it's in like four k forward
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: looking in for red. You know, it makes it very difficult.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: So so far not great if especially if you're an
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: alien lover, because there's no aliens in any of those
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: videos or images that we know of.
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: I mean, some of those ships could have had aliens
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: in them.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you, you guys, what do you
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: guys have views the aliens? Uh, there's a hot topic
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: That's a complicated question. I don't really know what to
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: think of it because I my personal belief is that
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: if they exist, and I believe they do, they look
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: like us. Because I believe in God and I believe
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: he created us in his image, and so if he
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: created everything, and I believe he did, he created them
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: in his image too. So I don't believe the lizard
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: people's stuff, or you know, they look like blobs from
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: the swamp thing or little green men. I don't buy
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: any of that. But I believe if they are if
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: they are, if they exist, and they probably they have
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: to write the universe is just too big, then they
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: look like us, and you know, they might be many
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: years ahead of us technologically speaking. But I don't know
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: what they are, but I believe that they are.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: And who knows, maybe they still arean Maybe they're time
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: traveling humans that have somehow evolved or adapted where they have,
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: you know, long fingers that better for technology, and the
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: big eyes because they stay up way too late in
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: the dark and look at their phones and scroll with
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: those really long, gnarly fingers. Again, I don't know what
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: they are, but I do believe that they are.
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: I'm with you on that. I'm not sure what they are,
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: but they are.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: They are. Well, if we're talking about opening dimensions and things,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: they don't have to be from another planet, right, they
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: could be from another dimension.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Well, so let me chime it out to you. These
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: are all great points. So what I would say, first
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: thing he brought up is that they have to be
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: aliens out there somewhere. Universe are just too big. It's
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: just like if we believe the units is big. If
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: you believe the Big Bang or not, it's a big universe.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: There's got to be something out there. The question is
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: more of like is it sentient? Can they reach us?
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: Like these are to me the bigger questions.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: So what I tell people is all the aliens exist
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: out there somewhere. Now are they here? That's a completely
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: different thing. But I'm the guy saying that we can
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: wormhole stuff. So suddenly, you know, the question is like, well,
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: if we can worm old stuff, where are the aliens?
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Why aren't they here? Why aren't we seeing them all around?
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: And this is where it starts to get scary, because
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: now the options start to narrow down a little bit.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Either we're a prison planet or a zoo of some sort,
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: were protected of some sort, or or the other option
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: is they have free energy.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: They don't need us at all. We're on some insignificant rock.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: That doesn't matter. They can just pull energy out of
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: the vacuum anytime they want. So I like your point, though, Pat,
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: where you said they look like us. That's actually something
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: I've said a lot, because here's a fun theory. What if,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: like we are the aliens, what if we went through
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: a portal showed up on this planet like one hundred
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: thousand years ago, and then we got stuck here and
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: we just forgot our history. We've just been living here,
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: stuck here on this planet ever since. Like that could
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: be a possibility aliens come down and they look exactly
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: like us. I actually wouldn't even be surprised.
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: I'd be like, ok, hey, that would all the things
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: that were built on the planet, that pyramids that we say,
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: do you ever.
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: Do any of that kind of discussion or do you
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: keep it to the here and now? In other words,
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: the ancient buildings that have no reasonable explanation for the
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: technology that we assume existed.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: I keep that mostly on the belief level. But my
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: belief is that there's a connection, right. It's just it's
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: just how can there not be a connection. We have
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: the super space age advantage technology. We're not sure if
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: we figured it out on our own, or if you know,
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: we dug something up, or if alien saucer crash and
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: we figured it out. And then we also have these
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: giant pyramid structures, which you know, we think are five
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: thousand years old, maybe they're a lot older. We can't
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: really figure out what they're for. Don't seem to be tombs.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: If you look inside of them, it doesn't look like
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: a tomb, so I think there must be some connection.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: To me, it's more of like, what is the connection?
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: I can't quite figure it out, you know. I don't
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: want to go all in on the wu and oh
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: the beans, the you know, bird headed beans are coming
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: here from the different dimension or whatever, which kind of
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: leads to my last point is I think we're being
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: a little bit misled on this interdimensional entities talk. I
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: think what's happening is a game of telephone. I think
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: the anapoline, a lunas of the world, the timber sheets.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: They're sitting in skiffs with engineers, maybe some engineers that
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: I've talked about, maybe people like Eric Davis, etc. And
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: they're being told there's an extra dimension and that we
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: can travel through an extra dimension like a bridge like
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: warmle and they're taking that as meaning, oh, well, there's
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: infinite dimensions. That's not necessarily the case. The way that
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: I proceed the actually dimension at least is that it's
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: just a bridge between two points. It's not a point
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: where you're hanging out in the extra dimension. There's not
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: infinite extra dimensions. But one answer to that causality question
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: you asked earlier is there could be multiple universes that
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: could be. One solution is that if you go through
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: a warmole, you appear in a different universe, and therefore
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: our causality doesn't get violated by going back in time.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: I think I can rule that out pretty much from
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: what I've learned, but you know, I'm open to more
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: evidence coming out. It's like we're talking about something that's
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: so far beyond where the public science is at.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: It's hard to be certain about basically anything, right.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: It is, yeah, And I mean it changes a little
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: bit though, when you're talking about folding space or wormholes,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: because that's a whole different thing than just traveling at
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: incredible speeds. Right. It's Einstein's theory is that the faster
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: you go, the bigger your mass. So when you get
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: close to light speed, they say, if you were to
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: equal light speed, then you would have infinite mass. And
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: obviously at an infinite mass, you're not going anywhere that's
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: a little too big. So in order to prevent that,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: you know, you get in a warp bubble or you're
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: in a wormhole and you're folding space and getting there
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: quicker without violating the theory of relativity.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: This is how we get around relativity.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: So relativity has to do with actually accelerating an object
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: in our four D space, and if we're accelerating that object,
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: then the faster it gets to theoretically, the heavier it
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: gets and time slows down. From the perspective of that
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: person looking around, and it seemed like everything's freezing. So this
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: is interesting because we can actually abuse this effect because
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: you just said, oh, well, if I accelerate something, it
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: gets heavier. It is the object actually get.
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: Right, Jeffy is very close to this right now, so
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: fast you can't even see men.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: That accounts though, for the mass that we see in
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: front of us. You just explained everything with that, all right, sorry,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: When they use so when they use relativistic effects, they're
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: basically they can like vibrate something like this. If they
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: vibrate it and it's moving really really fast, just based
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: on what you said, it should get heavier. It should
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: get heavier. That's what Einstein's general relativity says. So actually
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: we can abuse that effect in theory, might be able
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: to cause a local gravitational distortion.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: Now maybe maybe not.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: What they're actually doing, though, is they're getting around that
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: problem entirely is we're actually manipulating an extra dimension. We're
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: not changing the speed of the craft itself, we're changing
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: the region around the craft, the local.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: Space time distortion.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: We're basically taking that Like if you take a cup
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: of water with a fish in it and move the
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: fish somewhere else, the fish in the water is not accelerating.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: You've just picked it up and moved it somewhere else.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: And in fact, that's what David Fronian is he wants
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: his main point from this book to be, which is
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: getting a lot of shout outs today. You can't find
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: any like seventy dollars I found out, Oh wow. In
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: this book, he's saying that breaking the light barrier is
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: equivalent to breaking the sound barrier. The equations are the same.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: We just think that space is an empty vacuum, so
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: we don't think that it's a possible thing that we
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: can break this light barrier. And he's going, we can
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: break the light barrier, and he said, if you just
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: look at electromagnetism, put the equations together, you'll realize you
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: can break the light barrier in the same way we
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: can break the sound barrier. And so that's the big
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: rub here of the thing that we're missing.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: It's as simple as space is not empty.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: So when you guys see me on social media saying
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: space is not empty, space is not empty vacuum, this
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: is where I'm getting that. Once you realize space is
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: a medium, everything changes. In fact, the Big Bang might
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: not even really happen, because once space is a medium,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: we can now explain why we see red shifted stars
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: in every direction. We don't need everything to be, you know,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: accelerating away from everything else. So it's gonna be pretty foundational.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: And this is why I like to challenge people, because
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: this is something that's so big. It's one of those
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: things where you're either right or you're wrong. Right, Like,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: it's not like this is the thing where you're not
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: right about all this and this really is all connected
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: or I'm just way, way a way off base. So
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: this is the kind of thing where you want to
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: be bold because it's gonna either get proven right or
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: it's gonna get proven wrong. And if I'm right, it's
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: gonna look like I'm it's gonna look like the aliens
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: downloaded psychic powers in my brain and told me the future. Right.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: But you guys, will know that it was just hard.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Now, after talking about what you just laid out, what
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: happens with time dilation in that scenario is it still
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of time on Earth, but where you are
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: it's passing normally.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: So that's the big rub is if we use general relativity,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: but you just laid out previously to accelerate, you can
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: actually get to like, let's say the closest star Alpha Centauri.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: Let's say it's four light years away. You would say,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: if you go to the speed of light, it's gonna
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: take you four years to get there. Well, actually, because
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: of general relativity, wouldn't from your perspective traveling at the
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: speed of light, it wouldn't take you that long. Now,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: let's say you go near the speed of light. Let's
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: say you can get there, and like you know, you
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: can get there. You would get there and under a
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: let's say a year, I'm just making up a number here,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: you get there in a year. But from us on Earth,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: four years have passed. So what this means is, even
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: if you were able to get to Alpha Centauri and
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: from your perspective it doesn't take that long, there's still
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: a huge amount of time that passed on Earth. Because
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: you accelerated to the speed of light, you slowed your
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: time down relative to everyone else. So if you were
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: able to look back at Earth while you were doing
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: that travel, it would look like the Earth is moving
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: in superspeed. It would like the quicksilver, So you would
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: have lost all this time. So this means if we
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: use general relativity to get around, even if we accelerate
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: ourselves towards the speed of light, there's gonna be really
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: weird time dilation effects that happen. Like you're gonna come
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: back to Earth and everybody you knew was gonna be gone.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: It'll be like one hundred years in the future.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: That's not happen about the closest star, which is four
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: light years away, You're gonna lose years just taking a
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: one way trip there and coming back. So the further
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: star has become very basically impossible. And yes, this is
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: the work around. David Fronie specifically talks about this same Well,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: what's the workerund to this space time manipulation directly like
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: you're jumping the gap through. So now this is where
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: I said earlier, there's two possibilities. Either one you instantaneously
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: appear on the other side when you disappear, and this
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: isn't a problem as long as the tunnel doesn't stay open.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: As long as the tunnel doesn't.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: Stay open, it doesn't matter that the rate of time
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: on either side are not in sync. This rate of
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: time can be moving faster, this rate of time can
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: be moving slower. As long as that jump is instantaneous
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: and you jump from one rate of time to the other,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: you're fine. The issue would be is if that portals open.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: So if that portals open and you're looking through it,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: one side.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 6: Looks like it's moving slow mode, the other side's super fast,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: the other one.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Moving super fast. That's real physics, right. So this is
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: part of the reason why I think the portals that
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: remain open become a problem. The ones that where you
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: can just do a one sided jump become no problem.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: And then the worst case scenario that you get time
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: dilated by the distance divided by the speed of light.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: And if that's true, then there was not going to
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: probably work for jumping down the planets because you're going
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: to still lose that time. You might appear instantly on
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: Alpha Santari, but let's say you come back and now
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: it's four eight years later. You wouldn't No one would
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: want to do that. So this is why I tell people,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: you know what, I don't really know exactly what the
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: answer is. I need to see the videos in the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: other side to know what the truth is.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna stay. I'm just gonna die here on
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: this planet.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: Y'all can go to the moon or we have to
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: hope that it's that it's actually, uh, you know, a
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: tunnel that we go through because all of this travel,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: I mean the human body. Are we just making it
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: a break apart and come back together again to come
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: back together at the same time. It's the same way.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: I will.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: I will ease one of your fears and give you
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: a different fear. How about that? How about you go
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: through the portal and that's fine, no problem from that
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: perspective from your body now, although don't touch the walls. Right,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: This is like in the Philadelphia experiment. You don't want
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: to put your hand to keep hands inside the get right.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: You got to get through to the other side.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, otherwise you know now that arm's not coming with
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: So that part I think you're fine with. The part
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: I'm more concerned about is what is consciousness? At all?
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: Why are we conscious beings? Does conscious business emerge from
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: this zero point energy? Are we just a receiver connected
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: into that consciousness? And when we die, is that just
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: a disconnection from that consciousness? And does that is it
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: can be? How long it can we be disconnected before
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: we lose that? So my concern would be if I
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: zapp somebody through a wormhole and they're now completely disconnected
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: from our space time entirely, is that even gonna be
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: the same person when they come out on the other side, Like,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: did their consciousness get lost in the extra dimension as well?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: Ultimately my guess is no, But like it's still a
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: scary thought and a weird one, especially because I think like,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: if they did teleport those people and they lived, where
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: are they, Like it's twelve years later? Are they on
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: Diego Garcia?
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: Like, and you're worried about consciousness? I'm talking about my liver,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about body parts.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll get a reverse. So what we can do
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: is you can reverse aging. That's another aspect of this
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: technology because I told you, well, you can't reverse the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: entropy of the world, you can't go back to nineteen fifty,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: but you can change the entropy of a local region.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: So if you got that liver, we could theoretically put
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: three orbs around your liver and maybe reverse the entropy
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: of your liver so you can have that twenty year
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: old liver come back. Yeah, wouldn't that'd be great. It
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: makes me wonder why these engineers aren't more obsessed with
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: living forever. Yeah, you know, because it's the in theory
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: it is. I don't see why we.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: Shouldn't be possible incredible possibilities. More with Ashton Forbes coming up.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: This is Pat Gray Unleashed.
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  Speaker 7: You're listening to Pat Gray Unleashed and.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Thanks for doing it. It is a free think Friday.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: We've got the Ashton Forbes with us. Fascinating stuff. There's
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: so much more than m H three seventy that he's
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: been looking into and discovering over the last few years.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Pretty pretty interesting and amazing stuff. And what have we
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: not covered that we probably should cover? We got about
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: four minutes left in this segment.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: How about the missing general who wants to talk about
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: the deep stick? Okay, the missing so Air Force Research
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: Lab Commander Major General William Neil McCasland disappears and we
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: finally get the story of the disappearance, and I have
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: never heard a shadier story. You could put this in
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: the movie now, but I wouldn't even believe it. His
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: wife goes to the repairman comes in the morning to
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: fix something in their house. Wife goes to the doctor
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: at ten am in the morning, comes back at like
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: ten forty five, ten fifty less than an hour later,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: and her husband's gone. The general's gone.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: He's gone. His cell phone is sitting.
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  Speaker 3: There on the on the table or something. He's clearly
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: changed his clothes and brought his gun with him. He
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: didn't take the car. He's just not there anymore. So
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: she waits like two three hours, and she calls the
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: police and says, I think my husband's missing. And almost
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: seems like she knew that he like left of his
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: own accord, Like why would you call so quickly? You
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: wouldn't just think he's at the neighbors or something like that. Well,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: because she knows the context of who this guy is.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: He was in the highest possible position in our Air
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: Force research labs. Yeah, and I've been reviewing all these
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: scientific papers that go back to that exact lab, teleportation
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: physics study, ball lightning study that when I was talking
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: about from Jack the Champion earlier. They're all Air Force
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: research Lab papers. So this guy knows where the bodies
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: are buried. And then suddenly now we're getting disclosure, you know,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: from from the Trump administration in the same basically.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: Right after that happened.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and say, I don't think this
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: guy decided to go on a hike and end it all.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think our adversary has got him either. I'm
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: starting to think that, like our own deep state put
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: him into hiding because the guy has the secrets that
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: they don't want the Trump administration or the others to
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: figure out because it we'll just reveal.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: Everything wowow without his wife being in tow.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Huh.
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  Speaker 3: She might either have just been like she probably didn't
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: know obviously about everything that he's working on. Wouldn't be
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: safe for her to know. But you know, I'm guessing
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: she knew right away that something wasn't on the up
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: and up. Like you imagine, how quickly would you call
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: the police if someone's missing, You know, you would probably
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: wait to right If.
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  Speaker 6: My wife was missing, it'd be right away, Yeah, I
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: would be. It would be fast, in furious for me.
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  Speaker 3: Let me tell you another part about this that I
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: had a whole new dimension to this missing story. Yeah,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: there's this guy Tom Delanne Blink one eighty two. I
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: don't know what his position is in the band whatever,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: but he became this UFO person about like ten years ago.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: And I've spoken to people that know his advisors. They're
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: friends with his advisors. And it played out because he
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: was like a normal guy that kind of figured this
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: out and he started talking to the right people in
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: a very similar way that I have kind of done it.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: Actually just I took it as a step further. But
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: the interesting is he told a story that now is
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: interesting that his first interaction was that he got in
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: touch with someone, he says, and he went and visited
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: them at an airport, sat down with them, and the
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: first thing they tell him is it was the Cold
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: War and that basically the Cold War never ended. This
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: is the introduction to the UFO topic from this mysterious
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: figure that's been put in touch. Who's the mysterious figure,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: General William Neil McCasland. General mccaslan was Tom Delonge's contact
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: for all this UFO stuff. He's the guy that set
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: up his advising team for To the Stars Academy, which
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: includes Louel Azando hal putoff all these other guys on
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: these UFO communities that are all connected to the government
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: and the spooks. And I'm looking at this now all
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: in context, I'm going they wanted Hillary Clinton to be
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: the UFO disclosure person. You know, they were thinking that
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: Biden maybe was going to disclose some of this. But
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: now Trump is doing it, and Trump is stealing, stealing
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: the CIA's little toy box in QTEL.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: They've moved that under the DNI.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: This is true, by the way, Telsa Gabber stole in
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: QTEL from the CIA, which is where they do their
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: adventure investment funding to pick the winners. And so you
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: can imagine a scenario by which they're trying to protect
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: this information coming out and Trump and Telsey Gabbert trying
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: to push it and get it out for us. So
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: fingers crossed.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, all right, we only have thirty seconds, so
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: we'll save all of the questions because we've got many now.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: But this is a really good aspect to dive into.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Is the scientists who've gone missing, are eleven is eleven
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: or twelve it's I've lost count too many, too many,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: and there's something weird about it. And we'll get into
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: that with Ashton Forbes and much much more coming up.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 7: Pat Cray Unleashed.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: All right, we are back with more from Ashton Forbes
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: on this Free Think Friday. Ashton, were you just brought
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: up General McCaslin, who is one of the missing scientists?
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Is there a connection between Now you've mentioned the connection
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: between him and science and what's going on right now,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: but what about between him and the other ten or
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: eleven that are also missing or dead.
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  Speaker 3: It feels like a little bit of mass hysteria, feels
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: a stretch this all together. Yeah, you know, like this
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: happens on the media all the time. They're just looking
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: for a story, and I think there is something going
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: on here, But I don't think it's a giant conspiracy
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: between weaving these eleven people together. You know, the ones
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: I think for me were the most interesting and suspicious
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: were now Lario, who is the MIT few top fusion
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: engineer scientists for them, because I found a bunch of
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: clips of him talking about like we can't explain the
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: magnetic fields of the Earth, why they haven't diminished over
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: billions of years, Like he says, there must be some
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: mechanism replenishing the strength of the magnetic field, because we
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: can just measure it and see that it hasn't gone down,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: and we can just do the math and think that
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: it should have gone down way more. And this also
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: speaks to the science that I talk about with zero
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  Speaker 3: point energy, because where's that extra energy coming from the
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: replenished to the magnetic field. Well, it's coming from the
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: zero point energy field. There's some coherence that is happening
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: in some coupling, probably from the dynamo and the center
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: of the of the Earth. And so these are the
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: types of things where when you hear people saying that
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff, it's like when the free engineer free
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: energy engineer start talking about their water power cars, like
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, their life expectancy plummets, you know.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: So I'm worried about nowmal Arria, especially given the circumstances.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: He was the guy that was shot by the brown shooter.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: The brown shooter shot up Brown University. No one could
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: understand why. They say, well, he like went to school
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: there twenty years ago or something. You're like, what, so
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: he shoots that up disappears from three days and then
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: randomly finds now No Lararia in his front door of
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: his own house and shoots him in his front door.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: And they claim that he did it because he was
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: like had a grudge against him because they were classmates
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: like twenty years ago. Makes no sense at all. And
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: then after that then he decides to take his own life.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: That he decides it's time to take his own life
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: before he could ask any questions of him.
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  Speaker 4: So that one's one of the most I'm.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: Most suspicious of, and I would love to hear more
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: information about because the story isn't making any sense at all.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: The other one is Amy Eskridge, Amy s Gridge, and
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: I'm glad people are talking about her again, even though
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's connected to all of this. But
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: I have known for a while that people that knew
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: her personally believe that the defense contractors took her out
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: and that the whole thing was a cover up for it,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: because she was big into anti gravity research, and she
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: clearly liked to drink a little bit and talk a
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: little bit and say more than she should say publicly.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: And that's why all those clips you see of around
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: the Internet are from this one particular. I think it
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: was going to be a private discussion that she was
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: having with Jeremy Reese and Mark Sokel, and it ended
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: up coming out after her death because they thought it
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: was relevant. And she's talking about you know, my dad
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: was one of the people that helped that figured out
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: unification of physics has been figured out like five times
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: and covered up she'd been saying how she was being
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: threatened and how other people were telling her she needs
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: a publisher paper, and so you could see how she
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: was kind of in the middle of this whole world
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: in which, even if she did commit self harm, imagine
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: the psychological toll being in this world of these black projects.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: And your dad is this black project engineer that works
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: with NASA, like her dad is Richard Eskridge, and I
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: don't think people realize who he is. He worked on
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: plasma fusion propulsion for NASA with John Slow, who's the
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: co founder of Helian Fusion. They're one of the one
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: of those two companies I mentioned the fusion companies to
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: do Fielder verse configuration. Her dad worked with the co
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: founder of one of those.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: And it's not like an direct connection.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: The physics they worked on on that future, right for
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: NASA is the physics that became Killian fusion. So just
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, I gotta say, guys, it's suspicious, whether it's.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: Slow, yeah, right, especially when you go and listen to
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: the interview and she talks about the strange things happening
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: around her apartment complex and how she says something privately
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: inside the walls of her home there and looks out
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: the window, and two minutes later there's a reaction from
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: across the way some guy in another apartment complex, Like
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: when she was talking about his license plate and he
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: comes out there and changes the license plate on his car.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, something definitely odd was happening there. And I
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: didn't even realize though that connection with her dad.
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  Speaker 2: My goodness.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So ultimately, I don't really know what to believe, guys,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: But I do know there's a lot of weird stuff
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: happening and people that are disappearing. And I know for sure,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: General McCaslin, even if you ignore and just don't believe
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: anything that I said about this guy and what he knows,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: and I think he knows about the ORB technology and teleparty,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: even ignore all that he upgraded our entire nuclear weapons arsenal.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: A guy with that information has to be the literal
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: highest level of security concern. How and we've got no
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: press conferences, there's been no man hunts for the guy,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: So what is the government even concerned about him being missing?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: Like I'm actually so, this is why I think that
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: we must have him, or that a faction within the
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: government must have taken him away and hit him away somewhere,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: because otherwise I feel like this would be the highest
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: priority on the planet's certainly higher than what are the
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: Nancy Guthrie, right, I was just thinking.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: Someone that important, we're not even looking around for him.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: It doesn't see Okay, Look, I ask you a variation
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: of this next question every time you're on and this
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: feels like the perfect place for it.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: With all of these.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: Strange disappearances and deaths and so on. I mean, are
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: you do you feel safe? Because you're uncovering a lot
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: of stuff on your own, and I just wonder do
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: you get threats? Do you get strange calls in the
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: middle of the night, anything odd happening to you?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: How protected do you feel right now?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: No? They don't come at me like that. Their attack
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: pattern on me is to attack my credibility. Say I'm
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: a mean guy. Don't listen to me. He's rude, you know,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: or you know, just personal kind of little jabs and
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: things like that. This is attack of discredit. You can't
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: go at me any other way. But that's why I
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: try to be as honest and transparent about all this
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: as I can be. Ultimately, at some point when I'm
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: of no use, you know, probably have some kind of accident.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: But look at this way, guys, these people have teleportation technology.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: They're gonna be able to disappear me in a way
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: that makes it look natural, and there's absolutely nothing anyone's
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: will say about it. And if you try to say
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: that it was some super conspiracy, they'll just say you're
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: a kook, right whatever.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 6: So or we will we will though about we're underside, bro.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: But here's the other thing. Let's be serious for a
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: second about this, which is these engineers, like in this book,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: they didn't think this would get figured out for fifty years.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: These guys didn't get any credit while they were alive.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: This guy wrote this book, and afterward there's book basically
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: said verbatim, this book is for future generations that are
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: more knowledgeable about aerospace applications than the current generation, Like
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: they just literally know that they wrote this, and yet
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: here I am talking to you guys on a major
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: show about this in a serious fashion. So you can
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: imagine there's factions within this that are going, hell yeah, Ashu,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: you figure this out way before anyone ever expected to
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: figure it out. And you're pushing this in a way
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: that people are listening. And if you look at these
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: other people, these controlled disclosure people, they've got almost no
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: traction on what they've been trying to push. So I
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: think there's factions that want this to come out more
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: than the I think I even want this to come out.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: Part of me is like, hey man, just admit but
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: you did to the plane, and then I'll just call
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: it quits here, Like I don't really even think we
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: deserve this, So look at it like it's a little
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: more nuanced, I think than what people think in terms
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: of black and white. I think there's some people that
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: want none of this stuff to come out. There's some
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: people that they want some of it to come out
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: because they want to get credit that they deserve, and
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: then there's some people that want some of it to
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: come out. Just for the good of humanity in general.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: That book you keep holding up Faster than Light from
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: David Froning right in Release State, if I'm correct, is
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 5: January first, twenty twenty.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: This guy David Froning. I was trying to look him
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: up because I'm making a post about how he died,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, wait, I gotta make sure I'm right, because,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: like I'm looking him up, there's nothing about his death.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: I can't even find his birthday on the internet. Oh,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: there's nothing about him on the internet other than his
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: scientific papers. No date of his death.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: And the only reason why I know for sure he's
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: dead is because my friend US Navy engineer Salvator Paise
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: brought him up on one of my old podcasts, and
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: the AI found the old podcast.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: It was like Salvator Paisse.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: Said that he passed away like before he passed, and
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: that he contacted Sal so sal knows that he's dead.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: And I found an obituary from his sister that says
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: that she was preceded in death by her brother. Right, So,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: going like, that's the only way we know about this guy.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: And he wrote a book about Faster than I Travel
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: and clearly had like a fifty year your aerospace working
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: with the government on black projects. I'm just like, dude,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: what this is exactly what you expect since I've all
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: this crazy stuff, right.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: I see her obituary from October nineteenth, twenty twenty three,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: and frowning Dickinson. Yeah, so somewhere between January first, twenty
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: twenty and October nineteen, twenty twenty three, he dies.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: I wonder if it was connected to the book release?
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: Do we know?
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: These guys are old? So keep in mind too, though,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: that this is the other aspect. These guys are all dead,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: like Paul Susan is dead, that Bob Baker is dead,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: which is Grady. Guys like half these engineers that I've
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: uncovered that are connected these guys, they were all friends.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: Half of them are dead now. I think a lot
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: of them are just waiting the clock out, like they're like,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: this secret will come out, but it will come out
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: after we're dead. We'll never have to worry about the
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: consequences of itll be for other people to figure out
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: the consequences of that, you know, Like that's and now
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: they're looking at they're like, oh, well, this guy figured
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: out before we even died, So now it's just really
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: awkward situation, like, well, should we kill him? Well, it's
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: not kind of awkward because we were expecting to come out,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: but it's just happened as sooner than we expected.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: Do we know where Hillary Clinton was on these particular
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: dates when all these guys died? We need to know
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: why that.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: I actually am more Gonsillia Clinton than I was before,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: because after I found out that, I.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: Think it literally is like the deep state, left.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: Wing woke people that are predominantly not elusively, but predominantly
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: the ones hiding this and doing it out of some
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: weird sick.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: Moral like well better than you perspective, yep, yep, welcome.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: I think was going to be the one to reveal
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: the files. I think Trump is just straight up crapping
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: all over her by revealing them instead.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: I think that she was the one.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: She was planning on doing what he's doing right now,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: and he's doing it, but they were going to do
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: it in a way that they were going to blame.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: Everything on aliens. They're gonna be.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: Like, we don't know which kind of nhi these are these?
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: Maybe the spirit the plasma demons and whatever they were
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: going to do, and now that's coming apart, and now
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: Trump is getting to the root of the technology that
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: they didn't want disclosed. So I hope that these people
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: get their justice there. It's because I can't prove it,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: but my gut feeling tells me this all goes back
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: to the plane and Obama and Hillary Clinton and that
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: whole group of people. And I think they've had their
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: tendrils in the government and the intelligence community in a
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: way that you can't vote them out, and that we're
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: seeing it kind of being exposed right now, and I
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: hope those videos help do that.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: What kind of syops have you seen to cover all
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: of this up. I mean, there's fusion companies linked to
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: the government, there's potential doomsday weapons that we're talking about here,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: and I mean there's just a lot of stuff that
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: if it all comes out and they're going to have
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: to answer to some people.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the syops, I guess the biggest syop is
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: how they kind of discribe it's science in general. So,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: for example, there was a thruster I think it was
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: called like the IVP thruster. I'm gonna get butchered the
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: name because it's been a little while q Thruster, but
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: they've been trying to test these impossible drives, that EM drives.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: Sonny White was actually the one that tested the original
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: em drive and found anomalist thrust. And so what they
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: have to do is they have to hide every aspect
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: of this technology because it's not just one particular technology
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: that comes out from this and any of it has
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: to be hidden. So they were supposed to test this
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: thruster back in like I think it was February twenty
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: twenty four, and it was like five months later they
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: finally announced, well it just it didn't work, just didn't work.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: Didn't say anything else about it, just claimed the test
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: didn't work. They're going to retest it. I still haven't
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: seen the news about that. But the reason why this
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: is so important is that any of these tests would
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: prove that we're not in an empty vacuum. If we
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: can produce anomalist thrust from just like a cone in
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: the sky, then obviously there's there's more going on. And
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: if this gets revealed, then it's like a thread that
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: starts to just unravel, or like Pandora, his box just
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: opens up and people are gonna start figuring all the
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: rest of it out, and then people are gonna wonder,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: you know, what the government knew and when they knew it,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: and they're gonna you know, it's gonna, like you said,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: gonna be consequences for the people that have been there,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: or at least tough questions.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: At least tough questions, but they're probably probably won't be
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: consequences because that's how it usually turns out.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: Yes, Okay, So what exactly is a gravitational wave microchip?
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, it sounds pretty cool.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: But what is that gravitational wave micro Gary Stevenson, one
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: of my favorite Black project engineers, worked with NASA, he
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: worked with Boeing as well. He's just also a super
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: smart guy. He was doing a presentation the other day
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: about a week ago, maybe a few weeks ago now
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: at this point with Tim Bntura shout out to him
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: and APEX, where he's talking about a gravitational wave microchip
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: that can convert photons into gravitons using a spin two transition.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: So the Nobel Prize in physics last year was for
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: macroscopic quantum tunneling, which is sounds like teleportation. It is,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: they can were able to take a macro group of
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: atoms more than one a system of atoms, and they
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: were able to show that it can experience quantum effects
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: like tunneling through a barrier, for example, and they use
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: something called a Josephson junction. A Joseph's injunction is a superconductor,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: an insulator and then another superconductor on the other side.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: So this creates a phase change as it passes through
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: this barrier. This superconductor you shouldn't have electron shouldn't able
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: pass through the barrier.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: But they can.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: So they win this Nobel Prize for showing this effect.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: Gary Stevenson's microchip is also Joseph's injunction. However, it's a
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: Josephs injunction has dissimilar superconductors, an S type superconductor and
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: a D type superconductor. And what he claims this can
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: do is that this will convert photons light into gravitons,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: which is a gravity wave. And you can take a
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: DC input voltage which is just a constant current, and
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: you'll get an output AC voltage which is an up
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: down wave. So and then the last bit is, well,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: how do you make that? And that effect is going
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: to be very tiny on a microchip, so how do
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: you make that effect stronger? While he turned it into
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: an array on a microchip. So I'm really excited by
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: this because I look at this and this is like
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: the culmination of what I've been researching in terms of
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: this science and physics, but turning it onto a microchip,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: so that in theory, at some point you could put
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: something in your phone and have you know, a gravity
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: wave device that can either communicate through solid objects, maybe
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: just zap somebody into a wall if you want just
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: to be fun, or potentially even charge your phone right
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: free energy microchip that could just permanently charge your phone
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: you never have to plug it in ever again.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: And this guy's as connected as gonna be.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: The references are as good as could be, including one
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: of the consultings scientists on this project was Eric Davis,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: the guy who's literally talking to Annapolina Luna about the
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: UFO stuff.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: And I guarantee you he's not an expert on aliens.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: He's an expert on warp drives and wormholes and quantum mechanics.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: WOWR Stevens video check average.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: We called the joseps injunction microchip. Although there's probably a
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: better name for it.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 5: My gosh, way to put a bow on that, man.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: Wow. Wow.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: And by the way, if you like the micro chip stuff,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: I've reviewed several free energy microchips. Paul Thibodeau University of
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: Arizona has like a thermal based one that people can't
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: really explain how it produces over unity. And then Garrett
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: Modell of University of Colorado, Uh, he's got with Bernie
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: Hayesh of lockeed Martin, they've got a microchip that they've
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: experimentally shown produces a voltage. I don't know why he
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: doesn't think it works very well. But and then oh,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: one more Sunny White was on Joe Rogan like but
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: I think pretty sure around the same time I was
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: on with you guys, and he basically showed Joe Rogan
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: the prototype for his free energy microchip that would just
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: cohere energy from the vacuum and it doesn't produce a
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: lot of energy, but enough that it would trickle charge
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: your phone so that its so watch some of those guys,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: because this is coming out one way or another.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: And it's kind of amazing and a little bit of
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: ironic that it's happening. During a time when we're paying
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: four and five and six dollars a gallon for gas.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 6: I mean the energy prices are through the roof, through
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 6: the roof.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: Did you see how much how much energy those new
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: AI data centers are going to take?
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's like like whole cities.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 6: Well they're already building their own self sustaining power supposed
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 6: to some of those Yeah.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: Do you know who those contracts of those powers are?
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: With Heal Infusion and Tryoff Energy Fusion, they are all
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: fusion companies.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: So it's interesting.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: It All awakes always follow the money, Isn't that the
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 5: bottom line rule for everything?
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: Sure is? I tell you you've earned a martini. I
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: think you need to imbibe me. Yeah, tell us about
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: your weekly streams and where people can get more and
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: see you on a regular basis.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: Well, if you want unfiltered Ashton, come check me out
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: on Twitter or x at Ashton Forbes on there you
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: get the good and the bad, you know, whatever you
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: want with that. I'm always in there, reacting, replying, interacting
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: with people. I just think it's fun. And then if
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: you want like the more grounded science based content, investigative
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: content into the conspiracy angle, and some political takes as well.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: Then check out my YouTube channel.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: It's at just x Ashton or Rumble just Ashton or
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: I'm Unpilled as well, guys, So you can find me
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: pretty much anywhere online. And I believe we have the
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: podcast go up on audio afterwards. So it's justly about
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: an hour or two hours of political science based commentary.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Ashton. Fascinating as always, incredible and thanks for
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: all you're doing on this.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 6: Appreciate it.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: Thank you, guys.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: All right, thanks the ORBS so good, amazing, so much information,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: so much and it's mind blowing. It is, it really is.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: It's hard to know where to even take it. Because
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: if we really do have all this technology, which I
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: really hope we do, I really want it to be
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: true too. I don't know if I fully believe, I'm
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: probably I don't know, eighty five percent there, ninety maybe,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: and that we have it, and that we have it,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: there's that.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 5: Fine line where we want the information, we want this knowledge,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 5: we want it in the palm of our hands, the
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: life changing, life saving applications that could result from having
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 5: this knowledge.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: But then the flip side of that is, like he
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: pointed out, I want China knowing this, yeah, No, you
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: want the Middle East knowing about this stuff. No, this
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: fell into the hands of the Iranians. Can you imagine?
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: Or North Korea. They'd have no problem with using it again,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: it's just in using it against us immediately, and so
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what you do with it.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: I guess you do what they're doing and hiding it.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a Can we find a happy medium?
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: Can we get enough technology that will be nice having
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 5: to fill up our gas like you said, at six
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: seven bucks a gallon, and that would also take care
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 5: of the Iranian problem too, since that's what's funning them.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the oil reserves.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 6: Then can we just have the microchip that makes my
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 6: house completely powered?
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Could we have that police, and then you won't
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: even need the Dubot necessarily teleportation.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 8: Cool.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 5: I've just asked, That's all, you know. No, I'm not
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 5: asking for that. I would love that, but I'm not
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 5: asking for a wormhole to Alpha Centauri, right.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 6: But I'm not asking to go any faster than I
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 6: already am.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: I just well, you've got that problem of being very
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: close to the speed of light as it is always
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: so yeah, so we got we got a long weekend
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: coming up right, Memorial Day.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 5: We should probably give it ends up to expect.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: So use this information that you just got from Ashton
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: at a Memorial Day party this weekend. He'll low people.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: As he was talking, I was thinking, what is an
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 5: elevator pitch for this information for Ashton Forbes?
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: If he gets on an elevator and someone says, so, uh,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: give me the pitch before we get to the floor. Yeah,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: I'll give you to the one hundred floor.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: I don't even know how you.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: Try to briefly explain it. I don't think I don't
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: think it's possible to briefly explain it. Yeah, well we
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: can teleport no, and we probably have fusion technology. Oh,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: we probably basically cure every ill the world currently has
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: full time. Uh huh oh, look it's my floor.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 6: I thought a lot of the sorry.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: Thirty sorry, all out of time.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 5: Boy, fascinating stuff, And I think we should periodically touch
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 5: base with him, for sure, because he's sure doing some
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 5: great work and uncover some incredible information.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: It's gone way beyond image three seventy at this point,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: even though that's still super interesting to me. Yeah, I
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: could talk about that every week, because it's not every
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: day you hear about the possibility and see a video
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: basically prove it before your eyes that you can see
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: something teleport like that. Right, So if we have that technology, ah,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: I can't. Yeah, it can't help, but give you some
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: hope for the future, because no doubt about that. But
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: nobody could touch us with that. At what point do
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: you get frustrated enough with a RAN they're like, all right,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: screw it, Yeah, tell the missiles hit them. I can't
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: take any more of this.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 6: Well Trump, I mean, okay, I just want to say.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 6: Trump said he was gonna blow him up.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: He did, yeah, right, then he said it's over. And
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: then he said he's it's gonna wipe him out again.
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  Speaker 2: But then he said it was over.
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  Speaker 6: He's going to wipe him out again.
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  Speaker 2: But then yeah, he said he surprised us and said
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  Speaker 2: it was over. So we got that going that Mac
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  Speaker 2: said it was all it's over, yeah, and then non.
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  Speaker 6: So all right, we'll.
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  Speaker 2: Have a great weekend. I guess we'll be back on
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: day Tuesday.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you and I are down the hall, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's right, we're Yes, We're here all week try
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  Speaker 2: the veal. We've been here all we have that hare
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  Speaker 2: all the way.
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  Speaker 7: Try the veil.
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  Speaker 6: We have tried the veil.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I don't want anymore, but it was delicious for
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: the first four days. You might want to have I
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: don't know, something else after a whole week of veal.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, please all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, thanks for joining us, and have a great Memorial
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  Speaker 2: Day weekend. On this are two hundred and fiftyeth one.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't celebrated Memorial Day the whole time, but you know.
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  Speaker 7: See him see you Tuesday. This is Pat Gray unleashed