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Pete Prisco and Tony Boselli Celebrate Jaguars' First Victory Monday | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It's Victory Monday, October seventh.
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  Speaker 3: I'm happy to be back for my second straight Happy
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  Speaker 3: Hour and it's Victory Monday. It's so much better on
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  Speaker 3: Happy Hour for a victory Monday. Got a great offensive
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  Speaker 3: out put from the team yesterday, their first win of
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  Speaker 3: the season coming up today. We're gonna keep it real.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, we will answer your fanatic fan questions and
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  Speaker 3: a lot of stuff to go over. It was not
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  Speaker 3: a perfect win by any means, but it's a lot
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  Speaker 3: easier to go over things after a win as opposed
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  Speaker 3: to what we have been dealing with. So let me
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  Speaker 3: welcome everybody in CBS Sports Senior writer Pete Prisco, Hall
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  Speaker 3: of Famer Tony Biselli is with us today. And it's
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  Speaker 3: a victory Monday. How how relieved should we be? And
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  Speaker 3: is this just the Colts being the cults or did
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  Speaker 3: the Jaguars do some good things?
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  Speaker 2: Listen, first and foremost. I think you got to give
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  Speaker 2: the Jags the credit. I mean that's an NFL team,
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  Speaker 2: and every team has injuries. Now, you could argue they
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  Speaker 2: had a bunch. I mean their best player on offense
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  Speaker 2: was out. I think they were better off with their
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  Speaker 2: backup quarterback Frankly, and I think they had five or
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  Speaker 2: six defensive starters and some key ones up front like
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  Speaker 2: no Buckner, no Quidye Pay. They also another guy back
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  Speaker 2: in camp, Sam bankou Or. I can't say yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: want to say it because it's not in front of me,
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  Speaker 2: and I I'm gonna butcher it. So I apologize. But
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  Speaker 2: with that said, I mean we have injuries where without
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  Speaker 2: a starting corner, where without people too, I mean that's
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  Speaker 2: the NFL pete. But I think more than anything and
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  Speaker 2: we can I want to talk about the offense. Well
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about both. Because the defensive collapse in
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  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter giving up twenty four points, oh my,
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  Speaker 2: I mean we got to talk about that. But overall,
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  Speaker 2: the biggest thing that stood out to me and the
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  Speaker 2: reason they won this game, forget about the opponent, is
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  Speaker 2: because they made plays when they had to, and they
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  Speaker 2: made plays that were there I mean, you go back
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  Speaker 2: to Miami, if they make plays that are there, they
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  Speaker 2: win the game. Probably if you go back to Houston.
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  Speaker 2: I mean two deep shots. I mean Trevor hit those
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  Speaker 2: this week. He did and he didn't that week and
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  Speaker 2: probably the difference of winning. I mean, so you can
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  Speaker 2: do that every week and people all the time says, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we could have we should be you know, four and one.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, that's how losing organizations talk like, start
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  Speaker 2: talking about if we did this, right, Yeah, you didn't,
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  Speaker 2: So let's not worry about that. But let's also celebrate
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  Speaker 2: what you did this week, which is played really good football,
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  Speaker 2: especially on the offensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 3: And I think Tony you mentioned this is the offense
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  Speaker 3: we were hoping to see, right, we were going to season
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  Speaker 3: seeing all these weapons, kind of hoping Trevor could make
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  Speaker 3: that jump and find all of them and then the
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  Speaker 3: running game.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll say this, yes, I agree with you, kay,
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  Speaker 2: But the reality is is the reason they were productive
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion, because I thought they were productive against Houston.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the quarterback, Trevor just didn't play well and
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  Speaker 2: he played outstanding on Sunday. But the big key is
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  Speaker 2: and Pete, I don't know if you agree with me
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  Speaker 2: or not. The offensive line back to back weeks played
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  Speaker 2: outstanding football. And I'm the like, I'm the biggest O
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  Speaker 2: line apologist because I think it's the most important once
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  Speaker 2: you have a quarterback. There's nothing more important on a
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  Speaker 2: team than establishing an offensive line that can set the
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  Speaker 2: tone for the entire team. And I thought they played
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  Speaker 2: just not good football for three weeks. You know, as
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  Speaker 2: a unit, we can break down each individual. Actually we're
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  Speaker 2: not going to do that. It is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: The last two weeks they played really good football. Now
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  Speaker 2: they have moments, like every offense line is moments during
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  Speaker 2: a game where you're you wish he was cleaner in
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  Speaker 2: certain places and everything else. But overall, you go watch
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  Speaker 2: the last two weeks and especially Indie, they were dang
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  Speaker 2: right dominant at times in physical and pushing people and
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  Speaker 2: getting to the next level. And Pete, I was critical
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  Speaker 2: of this group. I said they look like they bought
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  Speaker 2: a ticket on certain plays of watching, not one time
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  Speaker 2: in that Indie game did I feel like guys were
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  Speaker 2: stopping before the whistle.
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  Speaker 4: I mean there were a couple not Cam Robinson did
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  Speaker 4: it on a run and play and his man came
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  Speaker 4: down and made the play. Anton Harrison did it on
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  Speaker 4: a run and play and his guy came down.
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  Speaker 2: That finish, that finish that you like.
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  Speaker 4: You always talk about backside on the backside, particularly if
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  Speaker 4: they hold those just for a little bit longer, then
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  Speaker 4: the runner gets up the field and that guy doesn't
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  Speaker 4: come down and make the tackle.
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  Speaker 2: So there were a couple, but it was better, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you so. It always can improve. It's never perfect.
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  Speaker 2: It's never as good as you thought it was. When
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  Speaker 2: you go watch the tape, and it's never as bad
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  Speaker 2: as you thought it was, except for the rare instances
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  Speaker 2: on both sides. I thought watching the tape this morning,
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  Speaker 2: they played winning football, and they played outstanding football. One pressure, No,
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  Speaker 2: it's not a great pass rush group, but I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: One pressure in today's football, that's a great job. That's
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  Speaker 2: an outstanding job. You go look at it.
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  Speaker 5: The rookie from UCLA had been getting pressure.
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  Speaker 2: And he did not. He got nothing. He got nothing.
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  Speaker 2: And then if you watch the run game, like my
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  Speaker 2: only criticism the way tanks going, you gotta give more
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  Speaker 2: than ten carries or eleven carries whatever, you're twelve whatever
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  Speaker 2: he had. I like, let's feed the rock to hymns
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  Speaker 2: more because the way he's running and the way that
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  Speaker 2: offensive line blocked the last two weeks, it's really it's
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  Speaker 2: really fun to watch. So kudos to the group because
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  Speaker 2: listen at zhe to four and all the noise. You know,
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  Speaker 2: if you go back to last week, we had reports
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  Speaker 2: of Doug losing the locker room, which every player says ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: You had questions of what's going on, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: pointing fingers and you know this group and that group,
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  Speaker 2: and all the noise. Fire this guy, fire them. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it was the fire fest last week. If you were
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  Speaker 2: on X and in those situations you find out what
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  Speaker 2: kind of team you have. I think I really believe
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  Speaker 2: in what kind of locker room you have. And I
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  Speaker 2: give those guys a ton of credit, starting with Doug
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  Speaker 2: and his entire staff and all those guys in that
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  Speaker 2: locker room, because it's the easy button is just to
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  Speaker 2: check out and just think about yourself and do whatever's
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  Speaker 2: best for you as an individual. The hard thing is
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  Speaker 2: digging in and saying, hey, this is a long season.
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  Speaker 2: No one thinks we can do it. We do. Let's
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  Speaker 2: play the type of football we believe we can. Let's
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  Speaker 2: continue to get better each week. And that's what they did.
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  Speaker 2: And it was a great offensive performance, and I'll say this,
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  Speaker 2: it was a really good defensive performance. With three quarters,
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  Speaker 2: it kind of went away. And at the end of the.
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  Speaker 4: Let me get to the to the elephant in the room,
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  Speaker 4: and that's the quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: The quarterback looked different. And I know you talked we
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  Speaker 5: can talk about the offensive likease. I agree with you.
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  Speaker 4: They played well, but the quarterback tightened up a lot
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  Speaker 4: of things. And I went back and watched last week's
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  Speaker 4: game and compared it to this week's game. The motion
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  Speaker 4: was quicker, the long stride was shorter. I think he
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  Speaker 4: got back to his basics. And when you see the
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  Speaker 4: ball coming off his hand, it came off differently. You
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  Speaker 4: know the shot down the down, the down the field
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  Speaker 4: that it was an effortless, easy throw and it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: a long stride. He was clean in the pocket. And
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  Speaker 4: I went back and I compared it, and I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if he saw it setting him out to the
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  Speaker 4: throw last week where he was long striding and not
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  Speaker 4: his feet weren't facing the right direction.
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  Speaker 2: I think he went back to his basics. Antony.
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  Speaker 4: We talked about this a lot last week. The kid
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  Speaker 4: was playing robotic football. He really was, And I the
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  Speaker 4: more I thought about it, I didn't even say this
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  Speaker 4: last week, but the more I thought about it.
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  Speaker 2: All they preached into him last year was.
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  Speaker 4: Don't turn it over, don't turn it over, don't turn
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  Speaker 4: it over, don't turn it over. Well on he turned
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  Speaker 4: it over one time in those four losses, so mission accomplished.
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  Speaker 4: But he wasn't playing quarterback. He's playing robotic football.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's playing it to he's safe.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, that's exactly what it was.
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  Speaker 2: Pete. I might take a little I might take a
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  Speaker 2: little bit different position on this. I'm not saying you're wrong.
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  Speaker 2: And because I didn't, I mean you, I didn't study
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  Speaker 2: and compare the footwork and everything week to week. So
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  Speaker 2: and Pete, I trust Pete's you know eyes, and he
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  Speaker 2: does his work watching film. I think the reason one
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  Speaker 2: of the reasons. I think also the coaching staff handled
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  Speaker 2: it the right way in game planning this week. If
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  Speaker 2: you go watch the first quarter, every throw was a
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  Speaker 2: checkdown or a quick stick route underneath. And I think
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  Speaker 2: it goes back to what we talked about last week.
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  Speaker 2: On the show, the three of us about almost like
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  Speaker 2: a a three point shooter who can't hit the broadside
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  Speaker 2: of a barn. Hey, let's get some layups. Let's see
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  Speaker 2: the ball go through the net. And I think what
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  Speaker 2: they were saying, I think they simplified it. And basically
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  Speaker 2: I don't know this for sure, but watching the tape
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  Speaker 2: is like, if the first guy's not there, check it down,
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  Speaker 2: first guy, check it out, just like, let's get completions
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  Speaker 2: and then give those backs and tight ends and the
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  Speaker 2: receivers a ton of credit because what they did is
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  Speaker 2: had some really nice run after the catches where they
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  Speaker 2: broke tackles and turned three to four yard games into
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  Speaker 2: seven and eighths.
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  Speaker 4: And I think Tony, even those throws to the sideline
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  Speaker 4: came out differently.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not disagree with you, but I'm saying
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  Speaker 2: I like what they did. They didn't come out saying
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna just open it up, take shots and go
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  Speaker 2: for like we're gonna give him some easy throws. And
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  Speaker 2: then as you watch the game progress, now all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden you start getting those shots, and all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, he's comfortable and he's got his confidence and
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  Speaker 2: he's seeing it and he's feeling it, and he's being
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  Speaker 2: smart with the football. I mean outside the one which
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  Speaker 2: I just think he was convinced Brian Thomas uh Thomas
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  Speaker 2: Junior was going to just win no matter what if
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  Speaker 2: there were three guys. It was a terrible decision. He
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  Speaker 2: had Kirk like, listen, that's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but there should have been a penalty for the
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  Speaker 4: linebacker got his hands on Kirk, you know, knocked him
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  Speaker 4: off his route. But once Kirk got up, he should
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  Speaker 4: have should have went here.
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  Speaker 2: On that one.
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  Speaker 4: He predetermined where he was going with the football. That
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  Speaker 4: was a prestat predetermined and he does that. Sometimes you
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  Speaker 4: can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: Every quarterback that does that. Sometimes every quarterback wants to
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  Speaker 2: take a shot. They got their guy running the route
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  Speaker 2: they like, and they just think it's gonna be there
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  Speaker 2: and they make their mind up. That happens.
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  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, when he threw that ball, we were watching on
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  Speaker 4: TV and I said, and I couldn't see it on
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  Speaker 4: on the thing, but I said, I guarantee you as
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  Speaker 4: somebody underneath wide open, because usually when there's three guys around,
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  Speaker 4: somebody on those places open. And a minute and then
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  Speaker 4: when I want to watch the tape today. So well,
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  Speaker 4: there's Cook Kirk in the middle of the field, but
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  Speaker 4: there should have been a penalty. Yeah, and they didn't
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  Speaker 4: call that, you know, Tony. The one thing I give
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  Speaker 4: them credit for. They rather slot fade to the big
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  Speaker 4: fella for the long get Yeah, huh, that was different.
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  Speaker 2: Let me tell you one thing. You better not sit
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  Speaker 2: even for a half a second. I'm Brian Thomas Jr.
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  Speaker 2: Because that kid and the funny thing watching it from
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  Speaker 2: the booth. As soon as he caught it, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: done gone. There's nobody on that field catching Brian Thomas Jr.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 3: And the still in air trying to die.
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  Speaker 2: It was awesome. I loved it.
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  Speaker 5: They cut that kid today. The Colts, by the way,
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  Speaker 5: did that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well he probably should because I know the coverage
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  Speaker 2: that because being with Gus, I know exactly what coverage
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  Speaker 2: that was. And he's not supposed to sit. He's supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be over the That's what Brian said.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, he looked and he's like, oh, did Trevor
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  Speaker 3: already throw it? Like why is he doing that? He's like,
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  Speaker 3: oh no, and he's.
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  Speaker 2: Not supposed to sit. He's supposed to be over the
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  Speaker 2: top and in that coverage and TV give Trevor corn. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the corner is the outside corner. It's a combo and
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  Speaker 2: if if number two goes vertical, that outside corner has
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  Speaker 2: got to get over to be over the top. And
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  Speaker 2: he sat and you just can't do that.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what he was. He was sitting on
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  Speaker 5: the shorter route with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the underneath, the other core, the inside corner
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  Speaker 2: is supposed to is the flat player. It's it's it's
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  Speaker 2: it's a combination cover too. They it's they change it up,
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  Speaker 2: and that corner is supposed to trying to trap the offense.
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  Speaker 2: That corner is supposed to sit in the flat and
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  Speaker 2: he has underneath route which they're happy to let you throw.
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  Speaker 2: Go throw that four or five yard pass. That's fine.
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  Speaker 2: That outside corner is supposed to be over the top.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and that's the play that will hurt you.
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  Speaker 2: And so you're trying to track. It's what it is.
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  Speaker 5: It's a variation of cover too. You just switch it up.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right, exactly right, and so but listen, offensively,
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  Speaker 2: Trevor was great. Tank Bigsby had a day, not just
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  Speaker 2: a day. He had a day that he has played
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  Speaker 2: well all year. He played great in the preseason, he
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  Speaker 2: had a great camp. And I got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: heat at the beginning of the year when I said
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  Speaker 2: that I thought Travis Bigsby, I mean Tank Bigsby was
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  Speaker 2: the best pure running back, and everyone thought I was
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  Speaker 2: taking a shot at Travis. I think Travis is a
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  Speaker 2: I love Travis on our team, and Travis can do
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  Speaker 2: so much in the passing game, and he gets in
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  Speaker 2: space and he's explosive. But as a pure running back
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  Speaker 2: between the tackles, Tank has a physicality and the ability
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  Speaker 2: to cut in the hole and be patient that I
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  Speaker 2: just think is unique, and I would be giving him
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  Speaker 2: the ball more. Now. He got lucky on the first Touchdow.
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  Speaker 3: He got pushed in.
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  Speaker 2: No, the ball comes loose before he comes in, and
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  Speaker 2: that ball bounced right back to him, And that could easily,
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  Speaker 2: as it was sitting on the turf, been picked up
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  Speaker 2: by anyone else. Now it would have been reviewed because
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  Speaker 2: it's really close whether he crossed or not. But I
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  Speaker 2: watched the replay and that that ball's moving and he's
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  Speaker 2: trying to secure it before he crosses. Now, what they
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  Speaker 2: would have called. Who knows, but I think the only
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  Speaker 2: thing he fell on it though, so it didn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: My point is, Pete, that thing was sitting in the
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  Speaker 2: end zone by itself for a little bit, and if
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  Speaker 2: the Colts would have fallen on it, it would have
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  Speaker 2: been a disaster. I'm just saying, let me say something
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  Speaker 2: about him, real peop.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, somebody put on Twitter he reminded me of somebody.
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  Speaker 2: Stop. He does not. He does not remind him of
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  Speaker 2: him unless he's unless he's two thirty and runs four
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  Speaker 2: two nine and can he gives it and can jump
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  Speaker 2: cut two gaps at one time. Yeah, I don't want to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to hear it.
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  Speaker 4: He's compared to a guy who should be in can
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  Speaker 4: and that's not fair to the guy again.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not fair to the kid either. Yo.
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  Speaker 4: There's a couple of runs that I will be a
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  Speaker 4: little technically critical on for him, and you'll you know
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  Speaker 4: what's one I'm talking about where he should have just
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  Speaker 4: kept going straight and try to pop it to the side.
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  Speaker 4: Then and then there was a run late in the
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  Speaker 4: game where if he just hits it right up in
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  Speaker 4: the rights of the guard instead of pop it to
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  Speaker 4: the outside, he gets about four or five yards instead
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  Speaker 4: of none.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. But here's the thing with that,
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  Speaker 2: he's a young backstill. This is really, this is really
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  Speaker 2: his first opportunity to see it. And I remember because
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  Speaker 2: I was on the team when he was a rookie.
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  Speaker 2: The greatest running back in the history of this franchise,
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  Speaker 2: and I agree with Pete should be in the Hall
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  Speaker 2: of Fame, Fred Taylor. And there were times when Fred
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  Speaker 2: would try to do too much because he had the
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  Speaker 2: ability to do anything he wanted.
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  Speaker 3: Let me try this out.
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  Speaker 2: And if you watched him progress as he matured as
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  Speaker 2: running back, there was nobody better than finding the hole
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  Speaker 2: and getting north and south and finishing runs. And so
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  Speaker 2: that's just reps and that's just you know, him doing
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  Speaker 2: it more and more. And and this is what I
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  Speaker 2: always want to remind everyone. Rarely, if ever is are
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  Speaker 2: is an individual going to play a perfect football game.
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  Speaker 2: There's always when you watch the tape, something that something
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  Speaker 2: you can get better at. I played a lot of
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: football from high school to college in the pros. Never
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: once in my entire life have I played a game
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: and watched the tape and said that was perfect. There
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: wasn't one play I could have done better. It just
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: does not work that way, especially the higher you are.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying you're wrong, Pete, I'm not saying
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: you're wrong.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: The kid, the kids, the kid has improved greatly. Also
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: looks like he's leaner by the way.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't know he was that fast. Did you know
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: he was that fast? I think no.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: I think he's leaned up from a year ago, and
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: I think that shows in the way he runs a
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: little bit.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: When he got in the open field against India, I'm like, oh,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: he'll get caught. Someone will catch him, one of the
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: DB's and he just try to pull away from people. Yeah,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: what did does anyone know what he ran in the
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: forty at the combine? I'll find out.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: We'll check out which we're gonna go to break real quick,
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: draft the guy in the first round.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, we're not going to talk about that, all right.
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• 17:47
  Speaker 6: Hunkering down and not looking and listening to anything, honestly,
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: and I'm going to continue to do that even when
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: you have a good game. I mean, it's that stuff
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: doesn't matter. You know, you can't listen to the good
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: or the bad. So I do think stuff that does
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: get through, And I'm sure there's a lot of questions like.
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: What's going on with Jacks, what's this? What's that?
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: After four weeks and good, you know, we'll use that
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: as a chip on our shoulder and have that us
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: against the world of mentality and bring us closer together.
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: And I think that that's what good teams do.
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: So but I also think you don't want to let
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: that stuff creep in because it's really about the guys
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: in that building and the work we put in, and.
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: You know, it's I'm just proud of the group. It
• 18:24
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• 18:37
  Speaker 3: That's quarterback Trevor Lawrence says he's not listening to outside noise. Pete,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: you felt like he played a really complete game yesterday,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: and obviously you felt we talked a little bit about
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: just his confidence not being there. Do you think he's
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: back on track?
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: I do, And and again, you know, the weapons help,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: the protect shouldn't really helped. But I just saw a
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: different guy out there. The way he threw the ball,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: the way the ball came off his hand, the mechanics
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: were better. When you have a tendency as a long strider,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: the ball goes high. That's usually the way it is.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: And I think he tightened it up a little bit
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: and the ball was more accurate. And I think that's
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: the biggest thing he made it the throw. Look, the
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: throw he made to Thomas is a seven on seventh
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: throw that any NFL quarterback should make. But he made
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: it easy. That was an easy flick of the wrist.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Ball there, boom, God, play over. And I think that's
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: been the difference with him this year. Nothing has looked easy.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: It hasn't looked easy at all, not the entire season.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: And so I think this is the first time where
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: it actually looked like he was playing free, loose, comfortable,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: and he made it look easy. And I think that's
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: the biggest difference between the early games and this one.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I love that he says he doesn't listen to anything.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: That'd be my advice to any.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: He's also lying I had to do this age.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: If I could tell my younger self, especially in this age,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I don't even have social media. I don't even look
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: at the paper, don't look at anything like just be oblivious.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I would. I would have tried feet every little thing
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: that I wrote about that team and the law I
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: didn't say I did a good job with it. That's
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: my advice to a younger Tony.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: And you could have given yourself that advice.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: There's no way that would ever.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: You don't think You don't think I could pull that
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: off feet.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Like me saying that I would never listen to what
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: guy said about me.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: One side note, and I don't want to. We don't
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: have to dive into this too much. I sure appreciate
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: how Trevor handles himself at the podium. Yes, I just
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: really do. And I and since he doesn't listen to anything,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: he I'll hear this, But I appreciate it. I really
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: like good, bad and different. He shows up, he answers questions,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: he's respectful. It's not easy, especially after what he's been
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: through the first four weeks. He hasn't played the way
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: he wanted to. Team hasn't played through the expectations. People questioning.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: He hears even if he doesn't read it, he hears the
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: noise and it just doesn't He doesn't allow it to
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: impact how he communicates to the fans, which is through
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: the media. And I appreciate that. And that's not easy,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: and all joking aside. Pete's probably right, there's no chance
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: in it. You know what, I would not read stuff
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: and I got And Pete will tell you I got
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: crusty with the media at times when it was going bad. No,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: it's shocking. I know, kay shocks you. And sometimes that's fine.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's wrong to get crusty with the
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: media sometimes, but I just like, as the quarterback, it's
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: hard because everything's on you. It was much easier as
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: an offensive lineman than the quarterback. So I appreciate that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: The second thing I would say is, and Pete, I've
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: always been I've been a believer that Trevor is gonna
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: win super bowls. Here at ozen four. I believe that.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's our guy, and I hope Pete is
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: right that this was a turning point. He's gonna be
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: tested next week against the Bears. That is a really
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: good defense and Eba Fluis is a very good defensive
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: coordinator and that's a good front seven. That line's gonna
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: be tested, and I think they're up to it, and
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Trevor's gonna be tested, and so this is gonna be
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: a good next step. I'm glad we had this success
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: we did, so there's confidence going into that game because
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: this is gonna this is gonna look ugly at times,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: and that's okay. NFL games are ugly at times because
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: when you play really good teams with really good players,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: it's not always perfect. And this is where and this
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: is why I go back to for the offensive line,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: where finishing is so important, because if you have that
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: finishing attitude, and not just offense line, but the whole team,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: sometimes sometimes ugly turns into points and turns into victories.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be perfect all the time, but
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: just that physicality and that finish in that attitude. Sometimes
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: we'll just produce the success you need. And I especially offense,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: our offense against this defense coming up. And we're not
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: going to dive too much into the Bears, cause we
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: have plenty And I want to talk about this defense.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Our defense. That's a good defensive side of the football,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: and it's and it's an ascending offense. If you look
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: at the last two weeks, what they've done. Now you
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: can question the opponents and everything else.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the opponents have been very good.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I agree with that people, But people can say the
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: same thing about what we just did against the Colts.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: That's true, no difference, that's true, but they're not the
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Colts on as bad as the Caroline Panthers.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Though on defense you could argue right now with the injuries,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: it might not be much of a difference. Best player. Yeah,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I look, I'm not, I'm not. I'm just saying.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Before we get to the Bears, I want to say
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: something about Trevor real quick, and you touched on something
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I think is the guy handles himself like a pro
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: when he comes to the podium, in large part because
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: he was forced to as a as a rookie. Remember,
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: he used the face of the franchise.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: We had a head coach. He couldn't get out of
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: his own wife.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: So the head coach, the head coach wouldn't wouldn't answer
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: the question. So he put the quarterback up there every
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: single week. And so I wanted to say something about that.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: But here's the number two part of that, Tony. Pretty soon,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: that's all you're gonna get from these players.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I know they're changing the locker room rules, which
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I read that article ridiculous. I read that article and
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I said, Pete Prisco right now is cursing here, Pa
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: just cursing him? It makes no sense to me. Well,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I don't want to dive into piece.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: You're saying it's sad to the players because you might
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: not get to know these guys anymore the way you
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: used to be able to get to know guys, and
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: I think that hurts them to the fans, and I
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: think it we're always a conduit to the fans.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I just show what we're conduit to the fans. Pe'te.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I agree with you, You know I do, because I thought
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the relationship with the media number when I enjoyed the
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: back and forth. We had great beat writers like Pete
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: and John Osher and you know calmnists like Mike Bianchi
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: and Fornt. I mean it was we had a good time.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Oh you just didn't want to say. For those that
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: don't know what you're talking about.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: NFL.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the NFLDH I put out a notice that they
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: don't want the media in the locker room during the week.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: It doesn't apply to postgames, so it's just during the
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: week hang out. That's how you kind of talk to players,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: build that relationship.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Everything from the podium.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Basically, they want everything from the podium. I think it
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: was like that in twenty twenty, so they kind of
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: want to go back to that. And so basically you
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: can go in, but you have to ask a player,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: and if they want to go outside to talk to you,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: that's where they will talk to you instead of in
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: the locker room.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: And I think with the PA, to take the PA side,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: they're saying the locker room should be for players only,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: which I get. The second thing is I think they
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: look at social media and they feel like that is
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: becoming a major condo to the fans.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: And they can communicate themselves and they.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Can communicate what they want to communicate to the fans.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Now that's all being true, I still think you lose
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: something because you get information, you get a perspective that's
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: different from the media, and especially those local beat writers.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: I really always appreciated what I mean back when I played.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I mean those guys, I mean Pete, they worked like dogs.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I mean they were and sometimes I wanted to kick
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: them and.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: Some guys actually trying and some guys did.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I did not, but you did not. But I but
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I appreciated the back and forth with the media back
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: then and ended up becoming pretty good friends with a
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: lot of them. The Pete's one of my good friends.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: So well, here's Tony, here's my problem with it.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, and I'm I know we're gooding off track here,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: but I.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Just think it needs to be said because I think
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: it's it's not great for the fans.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Okay. Social media is there.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Guys can send out their whole message, right, There's no
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: doubt about it.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: One of the things that I always prided myself on.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: And you will test to this because you know, if
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: I wrote something that was contra versil, I showed up
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: the next day and I took my heat, and I
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: didn't mind taking the heat. Now, we had some guys
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Mike Bianki who always wrote something and said I'm.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: Not going there on Monday going.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: He would disappear, Yeah, I go, you're going.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: And I tried to talk him into going and he
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: wouldn't go. And I think that's a terrible thing. But
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: that's what's gonna happen. That's where they're headed. If I
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: were covering the Jaguars and there's no locker room access
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: and the only way I can get to players I
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: request him and he comes outside and talks to me.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Well, what about when I write something.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Critical of the team or the organization or whatever I got,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: I can't go in the locker room and face my music.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going to accountability.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no accountability, right, And so I think that's part
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: of the problem.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. That's a great perspective. Bet. I didn't
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: think of that, but I think you're right. Let's come back.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: When we come back, I let's let's talk about the defense.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Because as big of a story that the offense was
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: that they've showed up and they executed and they played well,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: and they were explosive and put points on the board
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: at a high rate, it was a defense that almost
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: felt like it forgot how to play the last quarter.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, gave up ten points in three quarters, seven
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: in the first drive, and then locked it down and
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: then gave up twenty.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: That was a fourth down conversion for the touchdown, that's.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Right, and then gave up twenty four in the fourth. Yes,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: that's a problem there, that's a problem.
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• 28:48
  Speaker 3: fourth quarter, and what they're going to do going forward.
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: It was big.
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: It's good to see him, you know, take this step forward.
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: He and the d line have been really close to
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: get into the quarterbacks here in these first you know,
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: month of the season, and I'm proud of those guys
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: for the way they've stuck together and.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Continue to work Ted coach Doug Peterson talking about Trayvon
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Walker the day he had yesterday. Welcome back to Happy Hour. I'
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Kindannie Stevens, Tony Biselli, Pete Prisco with us here today,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: and let's talk a little bit about that defense because
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: they played. Some players played well, but there were issues.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: And I say specifically in the fourth quarter, Tony you
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: mentioned I do the postgame interview. I went out there,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: They're up two touchdowns. I was like, Oh, it's fine,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden the games tied. Oh
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: never mind.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: My wife left early. My wife and daughter and son
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: all left.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Early, missed all the fun.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: And I'm driving home and like, I'm like, where are you?
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: And I got already home, Like oh, She's like, we
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: just left at the it was over. Like what do
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: you mean when'd you leave? She was, we are four teams,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: like five minutes left, Like the whole game happened in
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: the life five minutes. Let's start with Trayvon and then
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: we'll get into the fourth quarter. Let's start positive the two.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: The third sack was just terrible execution by the Cults
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: of what they're trying to do. They're trying to get
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: flap outside so you could throw a bomb. And Trayvon
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: did the smart thing. He just ran inside and know
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: one touched, Yeah, so take that. Yeah that's ended again.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: He picked off, but he had another one. He had
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: some really nice rushes and and I think part of
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: it is like Trayvon is who Trayvon is. Trayvon is
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: not going to be get on your edge, swat, spin,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: swat the hands, spin whatever. He is going to be
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: a speed and then power you impress you to the
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: quarterback and come off and get on an edge. And
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I think what he did to that to Braden Smith,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: the right tackle, who's a good player. I mean he
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: hammered with him with power early and that and and
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Trayvon is a strong guy and got Braiden worried about
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: the power and started to lean where now he could
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: go to work. And I thought the biggest play of
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: the game looking back was the sack fumble at the
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: end of the first half. Huge. I thought that was
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: the biggest play because the Colts were getting ready to go.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: We had just turned it up there, we had just
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: turned over.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Gabe Davis with the fumble. They have it and get
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: a first down. Now they're near midfield probably, you know,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: plenty of time, they had timeouts, they could have got
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: a couple more plays and gotten field goal range. And
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, we're down thirteen ten, going
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: a halftime, and all of a sudden, you look up.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I was on the field because I was getting ready
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: to do Tom's and Conflin's induction, and you see Tray
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Vaughn get the strap the sack strip, Josh picks it up.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Cam Little's walking out to the field. Thirteen ten were up.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: It's a six point swing, and the game ended up
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: being a three point game. But I always got three.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: It's a six point swing.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I think they would have my point. I mean
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: to first down Spete and they you know, but let's okay,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: let's just say three points went fine. End up being
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: a three point game, but more more than the end
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: result because a lot of things happened the last five minutes,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: which we're about to talk about. It was the momentum
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: and the feeling going into halftime.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yes, and that's the sha what we had feeling.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: It was the opposite and knowing you're getting the ball
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: back and knowing like, hey, we just made a play
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: when we had to and defense, and like there was
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: there was energy in the whole building, and you know
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: there's energy in that locker room. I just thought that
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: was such a It was a great rush by Trayvon.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: It was good to see him get going because I think,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: you know, people have been critical and he hasn't been
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: getting a lot of pressure and everything else, and they
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: look at PFF and win rate and all this different stuff.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Bottom line is he played a heck of a game.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: He's been very good against the run all year. He's
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: very physical and if he can get that pass rush
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: going like he did on Sunday, it's gonna be a
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be huge because now you have both sides collapsing.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: And if you watched Flacco for a lot of that game,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: after the first drive, the pocket was getting squeezed by
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: bullsa by both Josh and Trayvon, which was nice to see.
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, if they only had a little pressure into the middle.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: They that's still a struggle the internal pressure.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, look, Trayvon Walkers. Look, the problem is he's being
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: compared to a Hutchinson.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: That's the problem.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Who's because he's a good football player. Is a good
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: football player, and if you look at his sack numbers.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: His sack numbers are impressive, and that was a good performance.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: I mean on the on the the one sack that
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: was was did heinds Allen get credited with the one sack?
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I think he did.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But well, what.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Happened there is Trayvon wins. Trayvon is inside is actually
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: getting pushed down by Braden Smith, so he wouldn't have
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: gotten the sack, but he made Flacco move enough, and
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Josh had a really nice power rush on the other side,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and as soon as Flacco moved a foot to get
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: out of the way of Trayvon, there's Josh making the sack.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: So really good complimentary football by both guys.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's why he gets compared to Hutchinson.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: That's the biggest part of the problem.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Well, but that's the way it's going to be, Pete,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: because this organization had an opportunity to pick Traymon Walker
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: or Aiden Hudchson as the first overall pick, and Aiden
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Hutchson going into last week at least or this week. Yeah,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: probably still because they had to buy I believe had
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: the highest win percentage. It does, and he has the
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: most pressures in the league. The most pressure's highest win
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: percentage in like six and a half sas after four games,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: and they didn't play this week. They didn't play this week, right,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: And so that is what it is. And my message
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: because listen, I got friends and on text messages and boy,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: they'd like to wear out that point a lot. My
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: point is like, Okay, that's the past.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: That will never change.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: It's never changing. So Trayvon Walker is our defensive end.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: And let me tell you what I know about Trayvon Walker.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: He's a supreme athlete who's really physical and disruptive every
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: game I've watched him in the run. He is a
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: guy who can power rush you and make it very
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: uncomfortable for offensive tackles and push the pocket. Would I
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: like him to take his rush game up a level
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: to have more consistent wins and more pressure. Absolutely, But
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: right now where he's at as a player is really
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: good on first and second down. Physical, Like, not many
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: tight ends are gonna block Terry.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Von Walker, not by themselves.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Not by themselves. He beats up offensive tackles a lot
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: of times in the run game. He just needs to
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: continue to improve his pass rush to be to be
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: more consistent. Yeah, but he's like but Tony.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: There were flashes of that Sunday where like you said,
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: he was going smack Dad with his power, and then
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: he started getting.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Well because he would still power, but then he'd get
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: on an edge, turn the shoulder, get up field, squeeze
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the corner. He had some nice inside moves, but they're
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: all like he is a power rusher. He's never going
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: to be Aiden Hutchinson, who does arm slaps and spins
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: and rips and everything else and then occasionally powers.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: Well, they technically have two power rushers.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: And Josh Allen's a power rusher. But let me tell
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: you what, Aiden Hutchinson will never be the run defender
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: that Trayvon Walker is no and so like, stop comparing
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: them because they're always going to be compared. It's okay
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: fans do that. I'm saying when we talk about them,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: I think the focus on the development and what he
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: does and what he brings to this team. And you
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: saw that firsthand on Sunday. When he is playing and
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: has a good rush plan, and especially against tackles who
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: struggle with any type of power, he is going to
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: be really effective. Now is he going to struggle more?
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: When you get a big right tackle. Who's good against power.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Yes, we go back to that play real quick.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: They took over with what six seconds last five, but
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: they kicked the field goal right away.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they ended up because they had to
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: kick off. Yeah, because Pete, they were at I think
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: they they were at the twenty five where it ended up.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: We'll see right here.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: So you shut down, Thank goodness, because I was like,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: he's not gonna make it, and if he runs out
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: this clock then they're not even Yeah, he.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Got to the ten. I don't think I would have
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: taken a shot at the end zone.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Not enough time.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: No, But did they end up kick kicking off?
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you forget. Yes, they kicked off and they
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: took a knee.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, wait they kicked off. Jacksonville kicked off.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they kicked off for the end zone right only
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: one second somehow ran off okay, okay, but they had
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: to time out.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: So if you were going to kick the field goal,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: why didn't you take a knee with three seconds, call
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: timeout and then kicked You didn't have.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: To kick off. Yeah, you could have done that, I think. Yeah.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm a again, I'm a stickler for game
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: management and you don't why even subject yourself to having
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: to kick off when you didn't need to. They had
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: two timeouts, So take the staff, take a knee, kicked
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: the play on the last, very last.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: Play the game of the half.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Because there's no way that snap got away. You could
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: go get it and call time out and kick it on.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. No, No, would you have
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Would you have taken a shot five seconds like a
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: quick slap to the end zone enough time as I
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: would not even I would not have either, No, but I.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Would have taken I would have taken the knee with
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: three seconds and then kicked it on the final play
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: so I didn't have to kick off. What let's just
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: say in that scenario, if he kicked off, it didn't
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: make it to the end zone and they returned it
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: for a touchdown.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Have you watched Cam Little? He can kick it in
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: those He can kick it in the first row if
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: he wants to.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Why even subject okay, say pulls his hamstring on the
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: kickoff that, I mean, why even why even let it
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: become a factor?
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Pete? I actually get your point. I just don't care
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: enough to engage you in that conversation, right, now I'm
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: not saying you're wrong.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: Hey, Kyle, you know what that means. He freezes me
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: and he doesn't want it.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, we got to come back because we still haven't
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: gone to the fourth quarter because I thought this game.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I thought this game was over when we had a
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: two possession of lead and all of a sudden, Joe
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Flacco is throwing bombs to whatever fourteen's they pierce, pierce
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: and just look and run, running, torturing us just like
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: a complete torch job. This guy didn't have a target
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: until the last two dry and they is three for
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: like one fifty at the end. I'm like, what the
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: heck happened? All right?
• 39:19
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  Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Coming up, we will finally talk about
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: that defensive collapse, what happened, and what they're going to
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: try to do to fix it. Welcome back into Happy Hour,
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: presented by Jet Home Loans, I'm kain Nannie Stevens in
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: for JP Shatdrick today. He already left for the UK.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: We'll see him back next week. Tony Bisselli and Pete
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Prisco are with me. We've been talking about getting to
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: talking about this defense, so let's finally get to it.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Jaguars have a fourteen point lead. Thought things were locked
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: up a couple of minutes left to play in the
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: fourth and they were far from that. It's cult able
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: to tie things up relatively quickly. What was going on
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: with the secondary?
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Well, if you go back even one drive before, we
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: were fortunate to flock over through Mohali.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Cox because he was open on that as well.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Now that was just a good route and maybe a
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: little push off by him. But you're up fourteen and
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: the year, I believe it was up fourteen with six
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: minutes left to go in the game, and at that
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: point like you can't let anything behind you, like you
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: just like nothing can get behind you. And it starts
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: with an acrobatic play by Pierce the one handed and
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: that okay, fine covers by Monterrey Brown. But then they
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: come right back, they come right back to him with
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: the deep show.
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: Those I don't know what those under underneath guys.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Right here look at this, like, what are we doing?
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: How do you let get back?
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: That looks like it was on Cisco.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: But I also think if you're Monteric Brown, don't you
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: have to play over the top Pat? I mean like, yeah,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: but you know he's got it.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: He let him get He got no hands on him
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: at the line of scrimmage. That was a problem.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: And then I would die like I don't know why
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: he's not bailing and just saying, if you want to
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: catch a fifteen yard comeback, be my guest.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: But if you go back and look at the overhead
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: on that, I think if I remember watching that play,
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: Cisco kind of looks into the middle and hesitates for
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: a second before he gets over the top on that.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but it was bad.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: And then and then you have the over route. Yeah
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: that was then well then we go three and out,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: So now's a seven point game, and I'm like, are
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: you kidding? Here we go and then they get an
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: over route to piers and like, I don't know what
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: the backside corner or safety is doing.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: Well, he's jumping. You can see him jump.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: So I understand that. But if it's covered two, you
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: don't jump it. You're in the back half. I don't
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: know what covers you're in or if it's a cover
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: three and the safety is supposed to be deep because
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: if you.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Know what it looked like, it looked like watching it
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: looks like he's a robber.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So that means it has to
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: be three because look right, So he's got to because
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: the other side is playing three.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: Right, it looks like it looks like three with a robber.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: And so that's not on Cisco, that's on on the
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: other split safety or the corner.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Has the other corner the other corner is to carry him.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: What's he doing? Yeah, he's got a deep third. I
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: don't know, but I don't know that was it.
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: We're making run Can we run that again?
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: We could with the with the with the arrow on it.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: In fairness, were kind of making up what covers is
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: we think it is?
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: No, no, you can see it.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: It's it is a three because the guys the safeties
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: looks they open a split safeties and they look like
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: they drop.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: They drop it down. I think it's three, but I
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe maybe it was man. Maybe on this
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: side Montera Brown is supposed to carry him all the way.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's man. I have no idea.
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: Let's see how he plays it. That is a man.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Well, the other guy's playing man.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: So somebody's wrong.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: But who is I don't know who's wrong. It's not
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: it's the way Monterrek Brown play that.
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: That's not it.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: That's it's It looks like three to me.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like three, and it looks like the
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: corner on the other side supposed to get depth and
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: play that.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: But here's my problem. Up fourteen with six minutes left?
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Is that am i? Am I doing the math right?
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Or is it four forty two? I can't remember the
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: clock twice, but anyways, I think it was.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: I think it was under five.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was under five. I think it
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: was four forty two. Like you like, at that point,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: you don't get beat. You know this, nothing gets over
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: the top. You call a defense and you tell your
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: guys keep everything in front of us, like make them,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: make them take five or six plays to if they're
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: gonna score, Like make them use clock. And there was
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: just it was like one shot after another. I'm like,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: what the heck is going on?
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: I mean the look on Ryan Nielsen's face. Put the
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: camera on him, Oh my god, he looked like he
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: was shell shocked. It was unbelievable.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: He had You should have. I'm glad they didn't put
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: the camera on me because I was like, what are
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: we doing?
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: I guarantee you.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: Everybody in that stadium was saying, here they go again,
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: guarantee it.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, I'd be lying if I didn't think.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: In the back of my head. In the back of
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: my head, I'm like, what are we doing? We cannot
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: give this away. We've played too well. Now give the
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: offense credit because they tied up with two, you know,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: two twenty left man Trevor got the ball and said okay,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: and there was They didn't blink. They worked right down
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: the field. They used the clock effectively. They forced Shane.
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: Stike hit a good throw against the blitz.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: They they forced Shane Styke and to start using his timeouts.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Got that big run to get ahead of it too.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: It was great.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: You know what's amazing though? How long was that field goal?
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: What was it? Fifty forty nine?
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: Were forty nine years.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: Ago, they would have never just ran it three times
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: and settled for the forty nine yarder.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: But these kickers are unreal nowadays.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: That's like, that's like a thirty five yarder. When I
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: played Pete it is at that point too, it didn't matter.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: It was like, there's no doubt. It was like I
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: watched him walk on the field like he was calm,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: he was worried.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: He's the best fifteen year old kicker I've ever seen.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Is that he's great.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Wa wa when does he turn fifteen?
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: I mean it'steen coming up?
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: He is, and he's a weapon.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: I mean held that that was forty nine yards and
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: it could have been good from sixty oh easy and
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: yeah and and so that's why you play that differently nowadays, Tony.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: Back in the day, you would have never run it
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: three times and just settled.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think you would have. Just you tried to
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: get you to have tried to get Hall since I mean,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Hall's made some fifty plus feederals, a lot of them,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: but you are still trying to get it inside forty.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I would say, yeah.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: Nowadays, it's these guys are amazing.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: So it worked out the end, but boy, they made
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: it interested and the final five minutes.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: But defensively, Like I like the two things that I
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: worry about with our defense because if you look at
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: the first four games, they didn't give a lot of
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: very many points. With the time of possession. They couldn't
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: get off the.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Field getting Yeah, they were ninety yard drives, eighty yard
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: drives on.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: The field all the time, and that combined and then
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: we saw them just fall apart in the fourth quarter
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: of this game. But really, and then you combine that
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: with the slow starts. I mean, every team gets outside
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: of the Dolphins. The Dolphins didn't do much if I
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: remember correctly, I don't think they scored the first drive.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe they did, maybe they got a field goal. But anyways,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I know the Browns did, I know the Texans did,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: and and the Bills and.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: And well they rotated the starters out after one point.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Then here come the Colts and they just marched down
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: and get seven. Like it's nothing like we got a
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: fast starter. Get we still have to start faster as
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: a team.
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: We need to talk more about the.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Defense and how to get a stuff when you need.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: One, and get a stop when you got and you
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: have to get a stop.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Absolutely all right, victory Monday, we finally got some stuff
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: to talk about. Coming up in the second hour, we
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: will go all over the details and highlights and some
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: of the things they need to work on coming up
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: on Jaguars Happy Hour perscenta by Jet Homelands.
• 47:19
  Speaker 9: It's more like sometime when you make a big blade,
• 47:23
  Speaker 9: your mind go blink and your your your instincts takeover.
• 47:26
  Speaker 9: So and those opportunities come upind like, you don't know
• 47:29
  Speaker 9: what's you just your your instincts takeovers. But afterwards, you
• 47:33
  Speaker 9: know it come back to reality and you get get
• 47:37
  Speaker 9: down and you see I'm like, dang, gots your scroll
• 47:39
  Speaker 9: and uh, you go out and give my mom the law.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: It felt very dank thiks. We had a day yesterday
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: two touchdowns, blackedown on that run apparently, but remember to
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: give the football to his mom, so that's always good.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. Second hour brought to
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: you by mister Chubby's Wings. Before the game, after the game,
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: and during the game. It is a victorious happy Hour today.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Tony Pselli Pete Prisco with me. I'm kin Nannie Steven's
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: in for JP Shadwick and we get to talk about
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: a win for once now. A great day from Prevor Lawrence.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: We saw two touchdowns, that one interception, but three hundred
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: and seventy one passing yards. He did a good job
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: of hitting those throws. We kind of criticized him for
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: missing the week before, corrected that Jags defense blowing that lead.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: As we just discussed, we're up. The Jags are up
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: by two touchdowns and then all of a sudden they weren't.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: But they were able to get the win thanks to
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Cam Little with that huge field goal late a sack
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: to walk things off. The Jags are now one and four.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: The wind doesn't change everything, Tony, but it does make
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: things a little more palatable when you go back to
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: look at the tape.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: A win changes everything.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Oh it's everything's different.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: I apologize everything. Let me tell you what. The food
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: tastes better, you're better looking, you like your partner better,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: your kids are nicer, Like the sky's bluer. Like it's
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: everything is better, and it solves everything. It's like I
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: always say, like if you have a great grist, it
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: really doesn't matter what the meat is because the gravy's
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: so good, you just cover it up. And a win
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: and coach Kauflin and I were talking about this at
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: halftime and we were talking about, gosh, we need a win,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: we need to win. And I looked at him and
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I said, I said, it's a lot more fun coach
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: making corrections after a win. And he looked at me smiled,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: and he says, you stole that from me. I said, I know,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: because it is. It just makes everything better. Now, does
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: it mean that you're gonna win the next one?
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: No?
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: Does it mean that you're like you've solved every problem
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: you have? Noop, But it makes everything better, and it
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: makes things a lot more fun. And you should energize
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: you and you should want to go get better, and
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: you should want to get back on that practice field.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: You should want to watch film, and you should want
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: to get ready for Chicago, because now you know what
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: it tastes like and what it feels like. You remember,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: it's been a long time. You remember what it feels
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: like to win, and you want that feeling a lot
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: more than you want the feeling from the first four weeks.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: So to me, winning cures all and now it's what
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: you do with it that really matters, because its.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: Also saves the season. It saves the season. Five you
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: were dead. Yes, yeah, so it saves the season, it
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: gives you it, and so from that perspective, you're one
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: hundred percent correct, Tony.
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: It gives you life.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: And now you get on a plane to go to
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: London and you have life. If they if they didn't
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: win that game, they go to London lifeless.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Basically, Yeah, I agree. I thought I think it would
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: have been a disaster because beats right. You go to
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: London now, and what your thought process is, it's always
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: one game. But London's unique because you're leaving for two games,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: and so you like, just like naturally, you kind of
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: combine the two and is if you're thinking about you're like, okay,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: we got two games. Got to focus only on Chicago
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: because it's all matters. But we have a chance to
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: fly back to Jacksonville in ten days, three and four,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: and right in the thick of everything, right in the
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: middle of it, we're at home, got the packers coming in. Boy,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: we can find our way to you know, doing something
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: with the season after a terrible start. Now, you can't
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: get too far ahead of yourself because that's the danger.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: But London's unique because it's like you're going to play
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: two games somewhere like in a unique environment. You know,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: one at taught them and one at wimbley. But boy,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: it feels Pete's exactly right. You get them that playing,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: you're like, hey, all right, that's who we are. Because
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: you can tell yourself and you can tell you can
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: tell yourself to be confident, you can tell yourself, you
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: can be good, you can tell your stuff. You can
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: score points and do this and do that. But til
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: you go do it, there's always that little voice in
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: the bag going, eh, man, are we gonna get over
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: the hump? Why can't we finish? Pete's right? So that
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: voice starts whispering when things go wrong, Oh here we
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: go again. It's the worst voice. It's the voice you
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: have to kill because that because you have no chance
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: if you allow that voice to dominate. And now all
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, the voice is like, okay, yeah, that's
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: who we are. Yep, that's who we are. And as
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: an athlete, professional athay, you can convince yourself based off
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: that alone. But you that's what you've been always. You
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: forget the other for what what games you're talking about?
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: I don't remember losing? Don't you see what we just did?
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: And you build on that and get some confidence and
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: get some juice in the building, get some juice in
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: the locker room, and go, you know, go do something special.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: I know they'll all say play one game at a time.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: When play at a time, that whole spiel that every
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: player gives you when they really look out and see
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: what the schedule looks like. But if you look at
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: you talked about it, Tony, if they go and win
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: two games, they're both winnable games. By the way, it's
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: not like there's a dominant team they're going to play.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: The Bears are pretty good, but they're not a dominant team.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: They're not one of the elite of the league.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: So you can win the Bears, worry meet people will
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: keep yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Because of their defense.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: So if you win those two games and you come
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: home and you get the Packers at home. Here, here's
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: what the Texans play the Patriots this week. I'm just
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: throwing this out there. This is their schedule in a
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: through October after next week at Lambeau to play the Packers,
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: which is much tougher to go to Lambeau than is
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: to play them at home. I don't care what any
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: you know that hom Agets, the Colston not very good.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: At the Jets on a on a Sunday night.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: They don't look right now, keep going, but they're pretty
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: good on defense. Yeah, okay, then the Lions they're.
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: At home, then the Cowboys on the road on a
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: Monday night.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Tough ways.
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: So yeah, so their schedule gets a lot tougher.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: Their tough as well, Ravens Chief.
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: So if you yeah, if they can, if they can
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: figure it out Jacksonville in the next two weeks and
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: and you can win those two games, you're in it.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: You'll be in it.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: But again, if they played like they did early in
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: that game, they can win both those games. If they
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: play like they did in the fourth quarter, and they're
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: not gonna win either one of those.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Well, Patriots are very good. But it's not like our
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: schedule is easy. When we get back for London. If
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: we're looking ahead, you got the Packers at home, Eagles
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: on the road, which I think if we unless.
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: We don't get no, if if.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: You win the next two, it might not right. Eagles
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Vikings only undefeated team at home. Tough, they're good up
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: at the Lions, one of the best teams in the NFL.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Then the late by, right, and then we have a bye.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: But then we have the Texans coming here.
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not an easy schedule.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: And then it lightens up after that. I mean, you
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: close out with the Jets, the Raiders who aren't very good,
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: the Titans twice, and the Colts again. But and then
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: well they close out they have the Chiefs and the
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Ravens later, and I agree with that. That's why. But
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you the next seven games, well it really starts.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: The next two in London are critical. You gotta go
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: win those two because if you come back both, If
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: you come back two and five, you're done.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: It's not the same.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Well you're you're two and five, you're gonna get flexed.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: That's a downer. Then you got Green Bay come in,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: you go. You gotta got the Vikings, you gotta go
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: to Detroit, you gotta go to Philly. I mean, it
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: gets hard, but I think these are the two most important.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Every game is important. Peach right, players coaches, we say
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: one at a time, blah blah blah, which is right,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: that's how you have to approach it. But we're not
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: players and we're not coaches, so we can step back
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: and look at this, it's mandatory they come back to
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: and oh winning both games in London. If you want
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: to go do something this year, you got you have
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: to come back three and.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: Four if they don't. If they don't, then we start
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: talking draft.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: Your favorite.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: No, we've agreed on this show we did not talk
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: draft until we are eliminated from the playoffs.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: You almost were starting a week ago, we were talking
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: about the first overall pick.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Well a cow of times the tables have turned.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: We were not talking about the first overall pick.
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: Have you. We weren't on ere but they were.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: If the draft were held, they would have had the
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: first overall pick.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: I wasn't talking about it, and we will not talk
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: about it on this show. I have in my contracts,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: in my contract the ability to state what we will
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: not talk about on the show. And we will not
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: talk about the draft or free agency or any changes
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: or anything else until we are eliminated from the playoffs.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: All right, which I'm hoping will not be talked. Last
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: week you did, I didn't correct.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: All right, let's talk a little bit about those on games.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: You guys mentioned Chicago, that's the first one up. What
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: scares you the most about the defense? How can the
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Jaguars go about attacking that.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: They got a good front four, they got good path
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: They put the pressure of the quarterback.
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: Well, one really good pressure the quarterback guy in sweat.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, he's a he's
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: a good player. They are very disciplined. Ever Fuss is
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: a very good coordinator. They do a good job in
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: the back half. I haven't watched tape yet, but ever
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Fos is known, is known kind of the cover two
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: two high safety guy and a lot of different he
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: can do variations off that. It's a sound unit. They
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: play fast, they play hard. They got talented players. They
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: have one really good player in sweat.
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: Well too, because Jalen Johnson's a really good.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Corner I think, I mean, I'm saying in the front, sorry,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: and they got a really good corner. They're they're talented,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: well coached.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: The defense, their corners with Johnson, Stevenson and Gordon when
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: they're playing at their best, that's as good a trio
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: as there is in a league, as good as there is, so,
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: you know, and Stevenson probably hasn't played as well as
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: I thought he would play this year. Johnson's the real
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: deal and Gordon's a heck of a nickel corner.
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: So that group is talented. That group is really talented.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: So if you get pass rushed with coverage, Tony, you
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: know what that means.
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: That's a problem.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, so the point totals they've given up this year,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: and for a big part of this with a not
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: very good offense, an offense that could not get out
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: of its own way early in one of the games.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: They didn't score an offensive touchdown.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: On one, yeah, the first one.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: So they gave up seventeen to Tennessee.
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: They lost the not by the way, isn't a very
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: good offense.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: But they lost the Texans nineteen thirteen, gave up nineteen
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: to the Texans, gave up twenty one, lost twenty one,
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: sixteen to the Colts, gave up eighteen to the Rams,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: and gave up ten to the Carolina Panthers.
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: Okay, the eighteen of the Rams was without Cup and.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, but I also watched the Rams
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: without those two guys put up some points against the
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Detroit Lions.
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: The Bears are pretty there. I'm not saying it's the
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: eighty five Bears or anything. But that's a solid unit
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: that you're gonna it's gonna be one of the I'll
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: say this, Pete, it'll be one of the better units
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: we've played so far this year.
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: Defensively correct, yes, yes, yeah.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: And the quarterback.
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: The quarterback is.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Better had he had a one twenty eight rating with
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: three hundred and ten yards or three hundred one yards
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: over three hund yards last week, and with the secondary
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: is here.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: They ran the they ran the ball, which just helped
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: him with you know, they finally got swift going a
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: little bit yep, which.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: Has helped it. So yeah, their offensive line in great I.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Thought it better than it is.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: It is not and that's something that Jacksonville cold take
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: advantage of.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: But you're right.
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: When it comes to the deep, that's going to be
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: your test for him.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see if this offensive line really has
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: made strides.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: It's I guess the other thing I would say about
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: the offense and what I what I get concerned about,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: not concerned, is if you do maybe a concern is
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: until this last week, it's not like we were doing
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: a great job of pressuring opposing quarterbacks. And at times,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: let's not kid ourselves flack out a bunch of time
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: back there and through for three hundred and fifty plus yards.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: Correct.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: And so as much as we talk about how great
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Traybon played, which he did, and how Josh has been
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: effective all your pressuring, it's not like we're constant a
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: consistent pressure team with.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: Four Well, there's no pressure in the middle at all.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: Real And the one thing that I have seen, and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: I've not watched a ton of them, watch a little
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: bit of it. But if you give Caleb Williams back there, Tom,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: it gives him, give him time back there. He has
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: weapons outside and the kid can sling it and is
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: unafraid to do it. Now, he does hold it.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: He does hold it, That's my point.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: He does hold it. But where is he struggled Pete?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: When they get pressure, he starts running around like a
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: crazy man doing stupid stuff. But if you can't pressure him,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: that's a problem.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, we haven't talked about the interior pass rush,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: the non existent interior pass rush.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: That's a problem.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: And what could you do to make it better, Tony.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Well, if you had more depth of defensive end, you
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: could play Eric Armstead in the three technique more often.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: And he played some inside.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: He did, but he's also I mean, the backup ends
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: for us are Roy Robinson, Harris and Eric Armstead.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: And they should be the interior pass rushers on passing
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: down like.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: You get you watch some of the like against sub
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: at times that's your four down rush with some combination
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: of the other guys. So you have four defensive tackles
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: out there rushing the quarterback. Let me tell you what
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: that does not do.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: Put a lot of fear into the quarterback.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Into the opposing because you know what you're getting. You're
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: getting at power, you can sit on it. You're not
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: worried about the speed.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: And Armsteard is not the same player, and he's not
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: the same player he as inside.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: He just isn't.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: No, And so one of the things you could do
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: is go get some depth at defensive end, so you
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: could play Armstead and Walker in the middle more because
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: they're probably your two best pass rushers.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: Is there anyone out there to go get right now?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: No? So no, there is no.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: They didn't address it in the offseason.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: I never to this day. I don't understand that, and
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: I don't Maybe he was a bad guy. Maybe he
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: was bad in the locker room, maybe the coaches. Hey,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know, so I'm not. I'm not. But I
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: never understood the trade because because we didn't have anyone
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: to replace him, and you got a six rounder for him.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: So I didn't understand that move. And the only backup
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: true defensive ends you kept was Cole who hasn't been
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: active since Week one. And Abdulah can play end and sub,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: but he's we haven't seen great pass rushers from him
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: since he's been here. I think his natural position is
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: much better at SAM but he was hurt last week,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: so I didn't play. So I don't know the answer.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: I really don't. But you got a pressure, and you
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: gotta pressure quarterbacks in this league, and if you don't,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: they're gonna tear you up.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: And and if you only pressure from the outside and
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: there's no pressure on the inside, they'll just step up
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: away from it. I mean that they gotta have somebody
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: push that pocket in the middle. Here's the other thing,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: and again I'm gonna go back to my pet peeve.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: First series of the of the on defense, get a
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: first down, off they come, let's bring the backups back in.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: Now we'll get the They jumped over the boards. They
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: got in their hockey. They keep them over the boards
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: and it was their turn to play their line. I
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: don't understand it. Three plays three three plays and they're off.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: What are they doing?
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: They're winded, so they keep it.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: Fresh for the fourth quarter. Did you see how fresh.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: They were late in the game? All right, Sam, real
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: quick before we go, peak question for you. How is
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: DeMarcus Walker playing at the other end opposite Sweat?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: Okay, not great.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: I just haven't watched. I was just looking at their
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: depth chart and I didn't know. I didn't even know
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: what DeMarcus Walker signed there. All right, the Gator.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: Stay with us here on Jaguars Happy are presented by
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: mister Chubby's Wings coming back. We are going to keep
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: it real about the offensive line.
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  Speaker 8: This is the second week in a row, really that
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 8: our line has played good as a unit, you.
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  Speaker 7: Know, and listen, I mean.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 8: It's been the same five guys now right. So when
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 8: I say there's continuity keeping those five together, there's continuity
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 8: and they start learning to play together, and that's what
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 8: you're seeing. I think these last couple of weeks you're
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 8: seeing that.
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  Speaker 7: And it was a.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 8: You know, just a great game by those guys again today.
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  Speaker 2: So that was Doug Peterson talking about the offensive line,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: and I agree with him one hundred percent continuity. But
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: here's my critique, and I'm going to follow up with
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: something I've discussed on this show with Pete personally, with
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: anyone who listened to me. This is why you should
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: play your offensive line and have a bunch more during
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: the preseason in training camp because of what he just said.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: He's one hundred percent right. The longer an offensive line
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: plays together, it's a position. You need to be in sync.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: You need to communicate, you need to learn how to
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: play together, you need to get the pad level down,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: all things that takes reps to do. And so my
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: pet peeve not just with our team, with every team
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: in this league, not every because some teams do it differently.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: I would most don't. Most don't. So how Doug does
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: it is probably the norm. Is I think that offensive line,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: let's take everyone. I would play that. I would practice
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: them harder in training camp.
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  Speaker 3: Would Can you do that with the way practices are?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: You can do it as much as you like. I mean,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: you can do it more than That's not true. You
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: should maximize what you have and we don't.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: We do not.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: We do not. You should maximize and you should maximize
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: every padded practice you have during training camp. I would
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: play all five of those guys if they're healthy. Obviously
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: we have some injuries this camp, so we couldn't. I
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: would play them extended periods of times. And if guys
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: are hurt, I said, okay, well I'm not gonna play
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: maybe the starter as much this game. But when you're
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: all healthy, you're playing a long time, like half half
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: in a you know, a series in the second I
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: mean why and but you're working.
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  Speaker 5: Against another team, you're playing together.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: You're playing together, and we are gonna and like when
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: we have a team here, both are gonna be pad
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: of practices, not just one. Because you as an offensive
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: lineman you get nothing, actually get bad habits because you
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: stand up and you don't finish, you don't do stuff.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: And so I agree with Doug this one of the
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: reasons this group is playing together. They've stayed healthy for
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: the first five games they've played together, and you can
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: see them improving, especially over the last two weeks. Well
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: why because they're working together. They're getting more reps, they're
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: getting pad level down, they're working better double teams. They're
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: working to the next level, they're finishing better. That's all
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: stuff that you should develop in camp in the preseason.
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  Speaker 4: And Tony, to your point, we're at week five, right, Yes,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: the scoring started.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: The scoring started going up again this week because people
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: are blocking people because the preseason is the first four weeks.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: It's bad football. It's terrible.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna gives an example of it of a play
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: and I tweeted it out there on Bigsby's run. You
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: saw Cleveland and Morse had the double and he got
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: he got off of it. Yeah, and got it a
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: linebacker and there's there's the whole run up touchdown that
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: takes work. You can't just simulate that with dummies, you
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: know that, Tony, and I thought.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: And I thought on the other side, I thought, I
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: thought Anton and Sheriff had some nice double teams working together.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: I thought it was like good football, it's fun to watch.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed this morning. I mean, I mean, I was like,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: this is what is supposed to look like. But it's
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: there's no mystery why it doesn't right because they don't
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: get enough rip in. What I get what drives me
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: crazy is everyone's afraid of injuries. Why don't get my
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: guys hurt in the preseason or in camp or what.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but playing bad for a quarter of your season
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: is just as dance.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: Hold on, why are there more injuries now than when
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: I played? And we beat the hell out of each other. Now,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying you should go back to what we did.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: That was probably too far the other way. Two a
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: days for four weeks, and I mean just the you
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: know I was. You know, I'm like, Okay, I get it,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: I know, but but I'll say this. You go turn
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: on the tape early season games. We were playing good football.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: We were playing at a level you had to because
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: everyone else was too.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: And yeah, because you played in the preseason.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: You played in the preseason, our preseason two to three series,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: preseason game one quarter and a half, two a half,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: depending how it was going. Preseason two, preseason three full
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: half and at least one drive in the third quarter,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: preseason four or ten.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: Plays plus padded practices, a lot more than what we see.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Now double days. And when we went to a team
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: for day it was an all out brawl. It was physical.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: And so I get that. I'm not I'm not the
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: old guy saying, hey, you gotta go back and do
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: it like that.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: I know you can't do it like that.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: It's against the CBA rules the union.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: Even if they weren't, you still couldn't do it that
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: way anymore.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think you have to. I actually think one
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: practice a day, in getting after it for four weeks
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: or three or a half weeks, whatever it is, and
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: playing these guys more in the preseason, I think you
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: would have a huge advantage opening day because you would
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: be further ahead, progressing, playing more in sync together. Offensive
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: line would be protecting and running the ball better, which
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: gives your quarterback more time, and your skill guys get
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: open and everything else, and your back to that room,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: you beat up people. It just changes. And so Doug
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: is one hundred percent right his whole point. Man, I
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: agree with him. We're seeing better play for one of
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: the reasons because the continuity and then getting used to
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: each other, understanding each other, getting better pad level, better footwork,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: better doubles, better pass protection because they're wrapping it and
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: they're doing it live and they're going full speed. They
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: don't do that enough on this team or most.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: Of the ANSA around.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: The league, and I just and I don't buy. Oh,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: we're worried about guys getting hurt. We've been playing football forever.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: And by the way, like I don't remember outside of
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: two thousand and it was the first padded practice of
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: the of the of the camp when Leon Sercy tore
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: a squad where all five guys were not the starters,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: were not their opening day. Now, did a guy miss
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: a preseason game here or there, or miss a practice
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: or two, Sure, but you were getting reps. And then
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: guess what your backups were getting a lot of reps.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: And what were you doing. You were developing young offensive linemen.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: What are we lacking in this league today? We don't
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: lack I don't. We don't lack wide receivers. Bunny guys
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: can run, catch and do amazing things. We don't lack backs.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: We lacked two positions and off we don't lack tight ends,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: offensive linemen and elite quarterbacks. There's not enough, Like I
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: don't think you could have more than thirty two teams
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: because I don't know if there's enough offensive linemen. The
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: base of the way the college game is played today
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: and the lack of practice they have at that level,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: and the lack of coaching in some places are getting
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: and their lack of understanding how an offense actually works
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: and what fronts are and what you know, coverages and
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: all the different things are aren't taught anymore, and the
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: lack and then so now we're taking those guys to
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: this level with the limited practices, is not enough time
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: to develop them, and no wonder the result is just
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: awful football in September because nobody can block anybody.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: It's you know what to Tony, think about this? With
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: all the seven on seven camps that are out there.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: Now we have some of the greatest receivers at seventeen eighty,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: oh my god, twenty years old you've ever seen. And
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: so that position has mushroomed into something special, and the
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: grunt position, the offensive line has morphed into something that
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: is dreadful. And you talk about depth, go watch some
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: of the XFL UFL where those teams are.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: You want to see bad offensive line play because of
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: your theory.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: I exactly what I'm telling you, because offensive line is
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: a harder position to play than anything else besides quarterback,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: because of what you're being asked to do in the
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: in the athletes you're playing against it, and it has
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: to be in coordination across the line with everyone else,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: and you have to do things together combo blocks, and
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: you're backing up to protect somebody with a guy come
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: full speed at you, like the only way. Like at
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: some level you can just like, is Brian Thomas jor
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: a great route runner right now? Is he a great
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: route runner? No?
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: No?
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Was Jimmy Smith a great route runner year in nineteen
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: ninety six?
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 7: No?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: What they are now? Jimmy Smith became an outstanding route
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: runner right over the middle. Why he's one of the
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: best ever. And I believe Brian Thomas Junior will become
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: an outstanding route runner as he progresses and he gets wrapped.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: Why is he so effective as a rookie Because he's
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: a supreme athlete. He's just a better athlete. He can fly,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: he has good hands, he's you know, and I'm not
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: saying I'm sure he works hard and all that. I'm
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: not taking that away. As an offensive lineman, you can
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: be the best athlete you want to be if you
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: don't have the technique in understand the position and how
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: to work in coordination with another guy and and double
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: teams and understand passe sets and angles and what a
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: defensive lineman is trying to do to you and everything else.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying. Receivers not a technical You have to
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: learn how to get off the jam, all those things
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: and those things. But you only get that as an
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: offensive lineman by reps, and you only get better by
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: live reps because you end up getting some bad habits,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: especially in the run game. If it's not because your
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: pads get too high and you don't, you don't. It's
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: not the same like because you're right. The last thing,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: and I'll let you go, is you're right seven on s.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: You can replicate a lot of stuff with no pads
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: on and get a lot of reps in the with
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: low risk, no contact, and then that simulates very similar
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: to what it's gonna happen on game day. You can't
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: do that as an offensive alignment. It is impossible.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: And here's the other thing, real quick, in the back
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: of the day, he used to be able to take
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: a tackle who couldn't be a tackle and develop him
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: into a guard.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: Zach, Zach, Zach Martin.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: I can go back to Marshall yonda media, you know,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: on and on and on, hey Ben Coleman, who played
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: next to you at guard, was once tackle. Well, now
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: it's so tough to do that because you don't have
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: the developmental time.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: The hitting it's different.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: So when you say, okay, I used to always look
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: for guys when I used to look by analysis, say
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: well he's not good enough to play tackle, but boy,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: you could move him inside and make him a guard.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: That's hard to do now because you don't have the
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: developmental time to do it.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: You're not hitting, You're not hitting anybody.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: And I'll end with this, I know we got a break.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: I understand Doug's hesitancy because to do what I'm saying
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: is going against the grain. And if somebody does get.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: Hurt, it's on you.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: The finger is gonna get pointed. And so it's not
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: just the head coach who has to have that philosophy.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: It has to be the whole organization that this is
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: what we believe. And I'm not just talking about the Jaguars.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: I'm talking league wide. And so I get why coaches
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: are like because if I put my starter out there
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: and he gets hurt, everyone's gonna say, why are you
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: playing him in the preseason. Well, the simple answer is
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: that's how you play football and that's how you get
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: better at things. But it would be a bigin That's
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: my point. It wasn't a big deal when I played
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: because that's how everyone did it right. And I think
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: it's an opportunity for somebody in this league. And I
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: know some teams that do it, not a lot, though
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: I know a couple, but I think it's an opportunity
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: for a team in this league, saying, at least for
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: the big guys, we are going to practice and we
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: are going to be physical and they're going to play
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: because opening day we are going to be ready to
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: roll and I just don't think teams are. And I
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: think and I'd love to do that. Every year we
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: talked about this at some point on this show, and
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: I always threaten to do this and I never do it.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: It'd be great to do, Like go look, and I'm
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: sure there's studies out there the injuries that happened in
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: today's game compared to when camp in preparation was different
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: because there's a lot of injuries still, tissue injuries, a
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: lot of I don't know what it is, but I'd
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: like to look at it because I know one thing
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: I can turn on the tape and for the first
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: part of the season September, a lot of bad football
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: and a lot of offensive line player that's not very good.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: Ky needs to wave the paper like JB does this
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: shut you up session? All right?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: They kept it real on the offensive line. Coming back.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: We're gonna do our fanatic fan questions here on Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: Kind Of been our season so far.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: In that game today and.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 10: In moments when we needed it the most, got stepped
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 10: up and we were able to fight through that adversity.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 10: So it just you know, builds confidence, you know that,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 10: and moments that we needed. We have the guys, we
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 10: have the people, We have the team that can step
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 10: up and doing it. So we just got to you know,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 10: keep it rolling, you know, use this this momentum to
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 10: you know, take it over to London and keep accumulating wins.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back into Jags Am here, jag Sam Here, Jaguars Happy.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: I'm doing too many shows today. Jaguars Happy are here,
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  Speaker 3: presented by mister Chubby's Wings. We did see some fight
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: back from this team. A lot of things had not
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: been going their way earlier. This season and they weren't
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: able to bounce back. They did just that, getting their
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: first win of the year in the throwback uniforms looking stylish.
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  Speaker 2: Talk how about those jerseys, guy.
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  Speaker 3: So I feel I'm unbiased because I was not around
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  Speaker 3: when they were here. They just look better. Are they green?
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: Are they brighter? Are they green? The color is better,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: more Teal, the more Teal, the Teal itself is better.
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  Speaker 3: And then the the society.
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  Speaker 2: The ribbing, the logo and the ribbing and all that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's just much better looking uniform.
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  Speaker 3: I know every fan base wants their throwbacks, but this
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: is justified. They are entirely better.
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  Speaker 5: Trevor wore black shoes. Did you notice that?
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: I did not. I didn't pick that up.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: It looked, it looked. It looked much better than black shoes.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: So maybe you should wear them again.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what though, I'm with you, Kai, and
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: I'm biased because those jersey but.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: They thought they market better, market better, and.
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  Speaker 2: I I'm just going on the record now and say
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  Speaker 2: I like our home jerseys being Teal jerseys white pants.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we wear Teal enough.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: I like her like Teal jerseys white pants. And on
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: the road. I like the white jerseys with white pants.
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  Speaker 2: I just like, that's what you used to wear. That's
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: what we did in September at home. If it was hot,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: we'd wear the white jerseys and make them wear the
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: dark ris. But I just I just and what I
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: just thought, because it kind of gives you an identity
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: of who you are too. It's like, this is who like,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: this is who we are, this is what we wear.
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  Speaker 4: The funny thing is, back in the day, I didn't
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: I thought that uniform was kind of ah. And now
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: now compared to what they've been wearing, I think it's
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: ten times better, so much better.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: Well, but here's the thing. I'm in the minority because
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: this is the old guy talking, because I think the
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: young guys like the different combinations and different looks and
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: you know, all black. Sometimes I am too. That's just me.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: So I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but my opinion.
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  Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals all whites, used to be a great uniform.
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  Speaker 3: Did Tank give you Fred Taylor MJD vibes yesterday breaking
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: through those tackles?
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: He did, he ran physical, But did he give me
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: vibes of those guys?
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely not, No way, No.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look, that's a high bar.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: Mean you're comparing him to the Technically, he's a backup
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: running back right now, and you're comparing him to the
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: best running back ever on that team, a guy who
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: should be Canton and a special guy who's the number
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: two ranked running back in the franchise. So it's way
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: too early for that. So the answer to that question
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: is no and no.
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  Speaker 2: I would agree with Pete on everything, but I'll say this,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: I would like to see what he looks like if
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: he got the ball twenty times a game.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: Should he be your starter?
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: I think that the starter is more situational of kind.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: Of what you think he should lead the team in
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: carries every week.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: I do think he I think he should have more
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: carries than anyone else. Now, if you get in a
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: situation where you know Travis is hot, and I mean
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: I think there's nothing wrong with running right in the
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: hot hand. I think there's probably plays that Travis does
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: better than Tank. I think we have the luxury of
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: having two very good backs. That's a that's a luxury.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: But if you're asking me who I would make the workhorse,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: I would make Tank the workhorse.
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  Speaker 4: Should they make it like the Ravens use Justice Hill
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: and Derek Henton.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a good. That's a good, that's a
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: good comparison, that's a good example therapy. I think that's
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: I didn't think of that, but yes, all.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: Right, to do a couple of questions about the defense.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: We talked about the secondary. The issues with that comeback
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. What's your level of concern with
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: the secondary, specifically the safety positions.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: It's got to be pretty high right now because we're
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: seeing some bus you know, and and some tackling.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: A little yet so terrible.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: I got concerns, and I mean, I mean, let me
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: say this about the two safeties. I thought both of
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: them would take major steps forward this year, and they've
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: actually gone in the other direction. And it's weird for
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: Cisco because he's in a contract year. That one surprised
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: me a little bit. Uh, he hasn't played very well.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: Antonio Johnson looks like at times he doesn't even want
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: to tackle anybody.
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  Speaker 2: I don't that. So when this is.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: Gonna sound crazy, but Tony, when Tshawn Gibson comes back.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: And Winger comes back, they might play.
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  Speaker 2: Should they start, I wouldn't go that far yet. We
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: haven't seen either of You don't know how Dewey's knees
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: gonna be or actually back. And to Sean, Gibson's on
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: a six game suspension, so you don't know what he's
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: gonna look like when he gets back. There is concern.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: They've been the biggest to me, they've been the biggest
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: disappointment in the entire team in terms of defense, those
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: two have not played very well.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: I mean that's fair. I think a couple of bright spots.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: Monteric Brown, you know now he got beat over the
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: top late on the overall physical He's not a big
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: dude and he plays big and I mean fist. He's
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: not fair. He's very competitive. I'm like really like, like
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: I was worried about our corner depth and then Tyson
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: Campbell got hurt. I was like, oh no, I was wrong.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: Flat wrong, Monteric Brown playing good football, and the other
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: real positive and I mean really interested to see what
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: they do. Coming up here pretty quickly is Vontrell Miller.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know when when Foyer comes back. How do
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: you have vontrelle on the sideline like he's your best
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: linebacker right now?
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: Well the way they say, I'm sure that find a way,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: but I don't know.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: How he's not on the field every now.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 5: The hockey team will find a way to get him
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: twenty five.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, I mean, he's I mean,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: he's a tackling machine. When he hits you, you.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 5: Make a splash.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: Plays makes splash plays, give them.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: He got his coverage needs to improve. I agree with that. People.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: When he covered the one guy and man the man coverage,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: he went out and made a play on him, and
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: he and.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: His speed shuts down those stuff in the shuts down
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: stuff in the flat. He gets there really quickly. He's
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: got to stay on the field no matter what.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 5: He has to stay on the field, all right, And
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: you just got you have to admit a mistake.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: Which one here we go, keep going, guy, don't don't bite,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: don't bite, don't bite, don't bite.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: We're gonna do our final.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: I'm a skip.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: I'm a skip one. We're gonna do our final. Fan question,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: do the boys get it done and come back from
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: London three and four?
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: I'll let Pete go first. I'm gonna say they do.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Tony, Well, they're definitely gonna get one because
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 4: they'll beat New England and I think they'll beat the Bears.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: I'm not crazy of the Bears like some people are.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: I still think the quarterbacks got issues. I think the
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: offensive lines got issues. I think that they'll find a
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: way to win it.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say not only do I think they're gonna
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: come back three and four. I'm gonna lock. Everyone's gonna
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: three and four. I'm not gonna allow Pete the Lockett. No,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: we're gonna No, he's not because the last time we
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: double locked it was a disaster. Triple lock. No, triple
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: lock has been really negative. Although you've never looked, j P.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: Tri block might be tripl might be great.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: You can double, you can do a double. I'm comfortable
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: doing a double lock with you. I'm not with Pete
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  Speaker 2: or JP.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not in.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not in all right, double Lockett.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: Double locket Kai with the lock I'm in Let's.
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  Speaker 3: Go Monday Happy our first of the year.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: When they come back from London and they don't get
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: either one of them to start talking about the.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: Drill, J can deal with it then.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: So the beautiful thing is Kai has no accountability this
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: thing because we come back. Kyle's what shock for the
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: one after London is.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: He Oh, yeah, you're gonna have to be here work.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: Let's go on. It's not gonna go poorly. We're gonna
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: do it. That's gonna be great, got it, wins, I
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: love it all.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: Right, stay with us here on Diagon's Happy ar presented
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• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: is going on in the NFL.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: And then CBS said early in the game that you
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: and Gabe.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: Kind of got into it and you maybe even threw
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: a tablet.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: Was there was there an exchange over there on the sideline?
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 7: It down firmly?
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 6: Now, uh yeah, we were set it down roughly, yeah.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 7: Exactly loosely. Yeah, I mean we're just it happens in
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 7: this game.
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  Speaker 6: I mean if you people that have played it, no,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 6: people that have it probably don't really understand all the
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: emotions I go into it and and there was some frustration.
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  Speaker 7: We had a little back and forth and cleared it up.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 7: That's all it is, you know.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 6: I think that's what stuff like that's important. And I
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 6: love when stuff like that happens. You confront issues and hey,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 6: if I'm pissed about something, he's pissed about something, let's
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 6: talk about it and move on.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 7: And we did a great job of that.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 6: You know, Gabe's always good at communicating, so got on
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 6: the same page quick and it was good back here.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: I'm happy our quarterback. Trevor Lawrence, addressing the reports on
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: the broadcast about him and gave Davis getting into it
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: on the sideline, Tony said, sometimes you get into it
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: and then oh gosh, we're all friends now again.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: It's it's a non story. What Trevor said is exactly right.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: Anybody who's played the game, coached the game, or covered
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: the game closely, it's a non issue. I mean, I've
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: been involved in heated discussions with players and a lot
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: of time coaches in the heat of the battle. Why
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: because it matters. It's important. You're competitive. If you can
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: be frustrated, you want things going better. Whatever it is,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: and I think emotion's good. And I always laugh at
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: sometimes the media does this, sometimes our fans do this.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: Is you hear them say we want players to care
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: and have emotion and be all in and then something
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: that where emotion, you know, I use just you know,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: I might've gotten a couple of personal fouls when I played,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: or you're get to a fight or it blows up
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: on the sideline and everyone's like, oh, you can't do that.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: You have to have more self control, Like listen, what
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: do you want? This is an emotional game, and guys
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: put a lot into it. And by the way, we're
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: laying our bodies on the line, you're risking like your
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: health and like you care. Yes, you get paid a
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: lot of money, but it's important to you. And when
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: you have emotion and you all in on something and
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: it's not going the way you want, sometimes tempers are
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: gonna flare and things are going to be said. And
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: I don't even get into what happens in the locker
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: room on the practice field. Sometime that's okay. Now it's
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: not okay. If it bubbles over and it carries over
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: and it becomes personal, it causes a wedge in the
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: locker room, which obviously it has not. But in the
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: heat of the moment, you let your emotion out, you
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: get it out, you deal with it, and you move
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: on and your teammates and your you know, friends and
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: your you know, working peers, and all the things that
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: go into it, and you move on and going to
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: the next thing. That's part of it, and that's part
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: of playing that it's not a big deal.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 5: It's never a big deal.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: But but here's what it what I would like to though,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: And I don't know if anybody asked the question.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: What was it about.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: This was after the third down where he was wide
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: open and they went to brentsvill st the short on
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: the sticks and then they didn't get the fourth This
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: was right after that possession.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he did before the gate.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: He's got him on the second level and he throws
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: to the left side for a short completion on third
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: down that set him up and fourth and.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: One wanted to I would assume he want.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: Okay, and in fairness he was open, and in fairness
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 4: to Trevor, it ain't exactly like Gabe Davis, you.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: Know, was a bullet getting to get there either. So
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: I'll just say this. I mean, first of all, this
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: is what receivers do.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: You want them to want the ball?
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 4: And you know he learned from you know where he
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 4: learned from, don't you well?
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: But Pete, I'm not I'm not gonna touch gave Davis
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: right now. I'm gonna go back to when you cover
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: the team. Did you ever hear Keenan, who was never
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: not open say anything?
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: Hey, look, John Osher and myself will swear to this day,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: and I tell I told Keenan this to his face.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: And keen is a wide receiver coach now so and he's.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: A good maybe the best one, the one of the
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: best in the league.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: And I used to tell him Keenan was happier when
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: he caught eleven for one seventy touchdown than he was
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: when he caught two for fourteen and they won. If
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: they lost, he he takes eleven and the loss, then
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: the two in the win.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: It's not It's not. Keenan was one of the teammates
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: I've ever had. But Keenan and Jimmy they wanted the ball.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 5: And when he went to champ it was meaning in
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: me Sean, and.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: I'll say it's an offensive linement I've got had it
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: out with quarterbacks. Of course, get rid of it, throw it?
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: What are you doing back there? And they're yelling at us?
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: Attack it hit me time? Why are you getting hit?
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: I mean it's it's emotional out there. So it's a
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: non story now where it becomes a story, and we've
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: seen this in the league, if either one of the
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: parties carries it over to the locker room and it
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: goes on for days and weeks, that's when it becomes
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: because now you have to have other people in the
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: locker room asking questions what's going on as their divide.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen, it became an issue.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: He became an issue. But if you just deal with it,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: like Trevor said, you squashed it, it motion. Okay, We're good.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: Fact it's non fact. It's not a big deal, all right.
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• 1:34:06
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• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: best game you watched this weekend? Ravens and Bengals.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 5: It was fantastic.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: Up and down the field they went, and they go
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: to overtime and the Ravens give the ball away and
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: overtime on a on a box snap and the Bengals
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: play for their long field goal. By the way, they
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  Speaker 4: didn't play to get any more yards and the holder
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  Speaker 4: dropped the drop the snap and next play Derrick Henry
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  Speaker 4: go They miss it. Derek Henry goes sixty yards, they
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  Speaker 4: make a field goal point black and win the game.
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  Speaker 4: Now the Bengals are sitting there at one and four.
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  Speaker 4: Great game, though Joe Burrow five touchdown passes.
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  Speaker 2: I thought Burrow's comment I read I didn't hear it
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  Speaker 2: basically saying we are not a championship football team right now.
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  Speaker 3: They're one and four.
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  Speaker 5: It's true, and he doesn't and he says they not
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  Speaker 5: that they can't be. It's just right now, they're not
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  Speaker 5: right defensive.
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  Speaker 2: And I read something and maybe this was an X
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  Speaker 2: so maybe this is just non true. Pete, you'd know
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  Speaker 2: or you have a sense that t Higgins might be
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  Speaker 2: available at the trade trade Daniel trade deadline because of
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  Speaker 2: some friction or something going on there.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he has and plus he he has a new
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  Speaker 4: he wants a new contract. They haven't you know, they
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  Speaker 4: haven't given it to him.
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  Speaker 2: They haven't paid him or Chase, Yeah, better pay Chase.
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  Speaker 2: He's he's not very good.
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  Speaker 3: Is he?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: My god?
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  Speaker 4: I think Brian Thomas is on his way to be
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  Speaker 4: in that kind of player though?
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  Speaker 3: Is LSU wide receivers?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how did elis you ever lose Justin Jefferson
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  Speaker 2: Jamar Chase? Uh the neighbors?
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  Speaker 4: Was Joe Burrow throwing it justin? Think about this was
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  Speaker 4: Joe Burrow throwing it Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase and
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  Speaker 4: it was Jade Daniels throwing to Brian Thomas.
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  Speaker 3: And how they ever lose?
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  Speaker 2: I guess, I guess.
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  Speaker 5: Remember they won the National that's sure.
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  Speaker 2: He never did. But have Jadon Daniels ever lose a game?
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  Speaker 3: Texans beat the Bills as well, which is not great
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  Speaker 3: for us in the division, But it's up with the back.
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  Speaker 5: That was Josh Allen was the receivers were bad.
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  Speaker 4: He wasn't good, and they still found themselves with the
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  Speaker 4: ball down on the you know, point blank range down
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  Speaker 4: three and they couldn't get in after after Stroud fumble,
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  Speaker 4: they couldn't get a touchdown and then they played it
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the game. They got the ball
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  Speaker 4: back with like thirty seconds and through three passes and
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  Speaker 4: they llwed him and then they punted and they had
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  Speaker 4: a time out and they let him go kick the
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  Speaker 4: field goal.
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  Speaker 5: Terrible game management.
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  Speaker 2: The uh and Josh Allen got beat up, Pete.
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  Speaker 4: But the Texans haven't been as good as I thought
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  Speaker 4: they would be.
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  Speaker 5: Just yet.
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  Speaker 3: Just yet.
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  Speaker 2: Well they are four and one. They got a nice
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  Speaker 2: little but.
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  Speaker 5: They played a lot. Think about it. Jacksonville probably should
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: have beat him, could have lost yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: They and Bears took him to the mat to the end.
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  Speaker 5: Right, they haven't.
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  Speaker 4: I thought this was gonna be a year where they
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  Speaker 4: became dynamic on offense and hasn't worked out that way.
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  Speaker 2: And the Colts took him to the end too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they've They've won a lot of close games. Give them credit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Cowboy is wanted at one am so over
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  Speaker 3: the Steelers.
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  Speaker 5: That was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Did you stay up for that, Pete? Hell yeah, Oh
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  Speaker 2: not me. I'm too old. I went to sleep catching
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  Speaker 2: the wall.
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  Speaker 3: All right, guys, you have any I don't have full
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  Speaker 3: time because we' running late on time. You got a
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  Speaker 3: Monday Night football pick Saints and Chiefs.
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  Speaker 2: Chiefs. Chiefs again cheeks Chiefs have they have some weapon issues?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the question is who's gonna Who's gonna step out?
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  Speaker 5: Don't get the ball to worthy A bunch of different ways.
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  Speaker 2: And one more thing.
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  Speaker 4: Derek Carr struggles against He's one and five against Steve Spagnola.
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  Speaker 4: You know why, Tony because they glitzed the hot of
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: him and don't like it.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, blitz wi splitz. Taylor Swift is gonna be in
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  Speaker 3: the building. Chiefs probably go to five.
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  Speaker 2: And oh that means my daughter will be watching as
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  Speaker 2: she should. She's a big swiftie, as she should.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Victory Monday Happy Hour. Thank you for joining us,
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  Speaker 3: Kinani Stevens, j P. Shadwick will be back with these
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  Speaker 3: guys next week. Enjoyed