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Diogenes Club | E5 - For Something, Not Merely Against · Diogenes Club

• 0:35
  SPEAKER_02: What's up, y'all?
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_02: It's a Thursday.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_02: He's going to the show and he gets up and walks away.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm out.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_02: I'm out, y'all.
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  SPEAKER_02: What's up, y'all?
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, I'm out here.
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  SPEAKER_03: Bye, guys.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_03: See you later.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody needs to be here.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_02: We're done here.
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  SPEAKER_02: What is that?
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  SPEAKER_02: A Yankees hat, too?
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  SPEAKER_02: Wearing it backwards just so that you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not even a Rockies hat.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I didn't want the hair in my face and everything.
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  Well,
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  I was actually going to bet Nick $5 that you were going hoodie
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  today.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm glad that I didn't get a chance to say it.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm back in the game.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm up and showering.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm getting up at normal times again.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm myself.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're doing good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
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  SPEAKER_01: No hoodies or nothing.
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  i like the hoodie-less evan you're looking like i don't like
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  yeah i don't like when
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  evan's like you know like he's all like you know dark you can't
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  see him and he's a
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  bit no i don't like that evan either you know hey evan that's
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  that's hyper to the
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  SPEAKER_01: dark side we have cookies
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  SPEAKER_02: Hey, y'all.
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  SPEAKER_02: What's up?
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  SPEAKER_02: You must learn what you have unlearned.
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  I just want to say,
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  before we get too far into this show,
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  what's up,
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  y'all?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's the Diogenes Club here on the Sick of the Shit Publications.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm Nick Parrow, not your dad.
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  SPEAKER_02: Joined by my friends, Dr. Eric Lulove.
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  SPEAKER_02: Who?
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  SPEAKER_02: Pediatrician?
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_02: No, not pediatrician.
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_02: Ankle surgeon.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_02: Ankle surgeon.
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  SPEAKER_02: Does foot stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: And wound heal.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, everybody.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nick's carrying Walter around on his back all day.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_02: I'm carrying Walter on my back today.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, like, I got a heavy load.
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  SPEAKER_02: So let me just show you.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm literally carrying Walter on my back.
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  SPEAKER_02: For the microphone.
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  SPEAKER_02: Walter on my back today.
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  Hey,
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  if you want any merch,
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  there's a cool QR code right next to Evan or Eric's head.
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  SPEAKER_02: Other side.
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  SPEAKER_02: That way.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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  QR code with,
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  for the sick of this shop and y'all should come get some cool
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  merch.
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  SPEAKER_02: We've got the,
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  SPEAKER_02: now,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  SPEAKER_02: so you can grow sweatshirts,
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  SPEAKER_02: coffee mugs,
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  SPEAKER_02: both left and right-handed and some chronically illing out stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can double your coffee in the morning.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, you can get two mugs.
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  SPEAKER_02: One for your left, one for your right.
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  That way you have the primary image always facing out as you
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  smash people over the
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  SPEAKER_02: head with them.
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  SPEAKER_02: The 15 ounce ones are pretty solid mugs.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're big.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're good quality.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're not advocating buying merch for violent acts, however.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Drink your coffee or whatever you put into your coffee or your
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  tea or your
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  SPEAKER_02: alcoholic beverage or your straight non-alcoholic beverage.
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  SPEAKER_02: Whatever you put into your coffee mug, like
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  SPEAKER_02: It's useful.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's a nice mug.
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  SPEAKER_02: You've got crisis, too.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm trying not to gouge y'all.
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  SPEAKER_02: We live in... And...
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  yeah i'm trying to keep prices low because i don't it's not
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  about making a ton of
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  money off y'all it's about hanging out getting some ability to
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  pay some of the
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  folks that are working with me as volunteers um like i'm going
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  to use this
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  eventually to drive the volunteer pay basically and turn some
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  folks into full-time
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  employees rather than volunteers with me i've got some two
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  incredible folks behind
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  SPEAKER_02: the scenes who really really do a lot
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  Beth Cruz and Courtney hey y'all you're in the chat you're
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  amazing thank you guys
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  thank you both for so much I love you both like I can't do what
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  I do without the
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  both of y'all you have helped in so many amazing ways and so
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  thanks and hey what's
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  up y'all welcome to the Diogenes Club again we have we have a
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  fun show today I
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  think we don't have any Walter he's on my back how are you guys
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  feeling today
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  i'm gonna channel walter for a little bit today i'm good man
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  i'm just finishing up
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  ordering the sweatshirt right now hang on nice i gotta get on
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  that let me see come
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  SPEAKER_01: on i card decline there we go oh man we have money now
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, shit.
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  SPEAKER_02: Look at that.
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  SPEAKER_02: I even got the notification that his order went through.
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  SPEAKER_02: Good job, Evan.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's quick.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a good day, man.
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  SPEAKER_01: Prince Andrew got arrested on his birthday.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you're just leading up with it.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're going for the fences right off the bat, huh?
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  SPEAKER_02: Happy birthday, Prince Andrew.
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  SPEAKER_02: Or former Prince Andrew.
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  SPEAKER_01: Former Prince Andrew.
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  SPEAKER_01: I woke up randomly around 3 o'clock, and it was like...
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  SPEAKER_01: the first thing that I saw was like breaking news.
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  SPEAKER_01: Prince Andrew arrested on his birthday.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Oh, Trump's gotta be shitting himself right now.
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  SPEAKER_01: But once now already medically.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: He does that anyway.
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  SPEAKER_02: So he's got a heavy order.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's why I call him droopy shitting pants.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's shitting extra today,
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  but that probably means we're going to buy bomb Iran this
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  weekend or something.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, actually, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know what guys, that's probably going to be what's happening.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um,
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't see a military air convoy like we've been seeing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think, who posted that?
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  SPEAKER_00: There was a, oh, Malcolm did it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Malcolm posted it of all the air traffic over Central Europe right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's,
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  SPEAKER_00: yeah,
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  SPEAKER_00: guys,
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  SPEAKER_00: we're,
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  SPEAKER_00: distraction number 832 of this administration to avoid the Epstein files.
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  SPEAKER_00: Breaking news, Trump's attacking Iran, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's so fucking crazy because like the thing is,
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  SPEAKER_01: is it say we win the midterms,
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  SPEAKER_01: say Democrats take over and everything.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's a clean sweep.
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  You still have to go through the whole process of the DOJ is
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  not going to indict
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  SPEAKER_01: him or anything.
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  You still have to go through the whole impeachment process to
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  get arrested.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just going to be.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's still wait and see,
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  SPEAKER_01: but at the same time,
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  we've got to put pressure on them to stop some of this bullshit
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  and get some
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  SPEAKER_02: consequences.
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  SPEAKER_02: I wish I could read German better.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's why Google has an AI translator.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm just throwing up a site.
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  SPEAKER_03: I didn't write one.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Unconditional love.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're in the middle of something here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're in the middle of getting love.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you love me, Dad.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hey, pay attention to me.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm right here.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're talking to me.
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  SPEAKER_02: I can hear them.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, there's a puppy.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, there's a puppy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Who wants a cookie?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well,
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  SPEAKER_02: I was trying to read into some of the,
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  SPEAKER_02: there's some articles with what's going on in around Iran.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I just found one that's,
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  SPEAKER_02: it's in German from six hours ago that,
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  SPEAKER_02: but it's around us expecting to attack a military site.
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  SPEAKER_02: The U.S.
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  expected to attack important military sites and a possible
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  attack on Iran,
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  SPEAKER_02: including the Parchin.
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  SPEAKER_02: where countermeasures are underway.
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  SPEAKER_02: So the Iranians are working on bunkers and items on their bases.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  And we've also moved a ton of other assets into the region that
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  shouldn't be there.
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  SPEAKER_02: We've moved Patriot battery systems out of Japan.
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  that were used for Taiwan's protection and are moving them into
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  the Middle East region.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like there is a purposeful build up there.
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  Shane Year talked about this actually is I think his theory on
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  this is that and I'm
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  inclined to believe it is that the US with in partnership with
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  Israel is going to
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  SPEAKER_02: take over the Strait of Hormuz in some way.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And because if they can take that over, they then control
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  oil assets going out towards China and it forces if Iran wants
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  to further integrate
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  with China because the Iranian state is basically a Chinese
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  surveillance system
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  like most people don't realize that is the Iranian state uses
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  all of the Chinese
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  surveillance systems on their people too it is a Orwellian
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  state and a theocracy
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  SPEAKER_02: like it's pretty bad and what they will end up doing is
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  in my estimation is they would create a new Silk Road style
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  thing where instead of
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  SPEAKER_02: trying to export oil through the Strait of Hormuz,
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  SPEAKER_02: they'd have,
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  SPEAKER_02: this would force them,
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  we would force them as a nation basically to have to build a
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  pipeline across like
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  SPEAKER_02: Asia to actually get oil exports back into China.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I think it's a way that the U.S.,
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  SPEAKER_02: is intentionally trying to take over the Strait of Hormuz because,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  SPEAKER_02: New Gaza needs all that oil being exported out of those areas.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_02: has to have its hands in all that money or else,
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  SPEAKER_02: you know,
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  what are the global elite pedophiles going to do if they don't
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  have access to all
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  SPEAKER_02: the resources themselves?
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  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's so weird to say that.
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  SPEAKER_02: It does.
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  SPEAKER_02: Global elite pedophiles.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to give the QAnon folks any credit.
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  And at the same time,
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  they were right that there was a global elite group of
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  pedophiles.
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  SPEAKER_02: They were just telling us the wrong group.
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  SPEAKER_02: They were all deflecting because it was all just projection.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's because Epstein funded all that, remember?
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  yeah he did yeah yeah right conspiracy wrong culprit right
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  pretty much whatever so
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  by the way guys there are two really breaking news stories i
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  wanted to go over real
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  quick before done with iran okay we can always come back to
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  iran because we might
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  be on the show and like you know trump hits trump hits the
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  airfield um so you never
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  know the first one you know and kind of you guys i don't know
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  if you guys talked
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  SPEAKER_00: about this you and shane with palantir moving from denver to miami
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  SPEAKER_00: No, we haven't talked about that yet.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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  so Palantir's move from Silicon Valley to Denver in 2020 was
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  motivated by his
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  SPEAKER_00: criticism of the decadent culture there.
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  And the relocation now to Miami signals a more continued effort
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  to distance itself
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  SPEAKER_00: from the environment.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: And of course,
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  Florida offers a friendlier tax environment and has welcomed a
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  wave of billionaires
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  SPEAKER_00: and executives in recent years because there's no state income tax here.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's the first one.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that was the first story.
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  SPEAKER_00: The second story,
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  SPEAKER_00: and take note,
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  SPEAKER_00: DOJ,
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  SPEAKER_00: because this is really,
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  SPEAKER_00: pardon my language,
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  SPEAKER_00: fucking simple.
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  Former South Korean President Yoon Suk-yeol was sentenced to
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  life imprisonment 14
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  SPEAKER_00: months after his December 2024 insurrection martial law declaration.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: 14 months.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's expected to appeal, but
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  SPEAKER_00: Guess what?
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  SPEAKER_00: 14 months, everybody.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's how long it could take.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like literally like by.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, mid 20s time next year.
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  SPEAKER_00: This time next year, we could have a lot of people in prison.
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  SPEAKER_02: We could even have that before then.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's amazing what happened.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't even think it has to take 14 months.
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  Look at what's happening in New Mexico with Zorro Ranch and the
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  investigation,
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  SPEAKER_02: that truth commission that they just opened up.
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  SPEAKER_02: And Stansberry,
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  SPEAKER_02: New Mexico's representative,
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  one of their representatives was talking about it on Lincoln
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  Square this morning.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's awesome, man.
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  yeah i was listening in i listened into the first half of it
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  because i wanted to
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  listen to uh dana on the daily whatever with anna wick that was
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  a really good
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  SPEAKER_02: conversation
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  SPEAKER_02: But Marie Stansberry was incredible.
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  SPEAKER_02: She answered the questions that were asked her.
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  She gave really concise and clear answers around what the DOJ
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  is doing and the
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  SPEAKER_02: cover-up that they are committing.
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  SPEAKER_02: And she openly said in the interview that she believes...
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  SPEAKER_02: Bondi perjured herself during the testimony,
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  which is a huge statement to make from a congressional member
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  because that means
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  SPEAKER_02: she will press charges.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and she didn't, you know, she didn't perjure herself or anything.
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  SPEAKER_02: She wouldn't look at the survivors behind her.
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  SPEAKER_02: Also, adding to your list of news, here's a third thing.
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  Our illustrious VA secretary,
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  Doug Collins,
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  has decided to publish a final rule.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh-oh.
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  SPEAKER_02: A new rule around rating for VA.
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  SPEAKER_02: For the new ratings and everything.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  And re-ratings is if your medication is making you better,
• 13:19
  they want to rate you lower.
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  So they want to rate you lower just because you're medicated so
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  that they can pay you less.
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  SPEAKER_02: And guess how this went through?
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  Because the last time the VA tried to push something through,
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  it was the abortion stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I remember that.
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  And that impacts my family directly because Champ VA is the
• 13:40
  healthcare system that I'm on.
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  And we can't get female reproductive access for either my wife
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  or my daughter,
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  SPEAKER_02: and that's fucking atrocious,
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  SPEAKER_02: is now...
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  SPEAKER_02: The VA is not even providing advance notice or public comment.
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  SPEAKER_02: This rule was enacted without advance notice or public comment,
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  SPEAKER_02: quote,
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  SPEAKER_02: from VA Secretary Doug Collins,
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  SPEAKER_02: quote,
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  providing advance notice and prior opportunity for public
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  comment is impractical.
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  SPEAKER_02: impractical, and contrary to the public interest.
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  SPEAKER_02: Get fucked, Doug Collins.
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  SPEAKER_00: By the way,
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  SPEAKER_00: so from an administrative services,
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  SPEAKER_00: that actually violates the Administrative Services Act.
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  SPEAKER_00: That automatically violates the Admin Services Act.
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  That decision right there is enough to have an injunction filed
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  in federal court
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  SPEAKER_00: against the VA from doing this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because under the Administrative Services Act, by statute,
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  SPEAKER_00: They have to have a 45 day public comment period.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: And it has to be published in the federal register.
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  So there are certain administrative steps that every agency has
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  to go through.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's why there's an ASA,
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  SPEAKER_00: not assistant us attorney,
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: but that's why there's the administrative services act.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that falls under multiple 42 section us codes.
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  And the only reason why I notice everybody is because I do a
• 15:11
  lot of HHS appeals and
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  SPEAKER_00: a lot of this falls under the ASA and the Medicare,
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  the Medicare provider integrity manual and the administrative
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  services act and the
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  SPEAKER_00: social security act and 42 USC,
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  SPEAKER_00: 1915.
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  SPEAKER_00: So.
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  And can I just give everybody an idea real quick of like what
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  the real life
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  SPEAKER_01: implications of that are?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because I fought with the VA for, I mean,
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  almost pretty much ever since I got out of the army and got
• 15:40
  medically discharged.
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  And the thing about the rating system is it's fucked up in the
• 15:48
  first place because
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  SPEAKER_01: none of the math adds up.
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  Like you can,
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  like when I got out,
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  you can have a 50% disability,
• 15:56
  a 30% disability.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like say I got 50% for mental health,
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: like generalized anxiety disorder,
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: depression or something.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: Then I got 30% for,
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: like my shoulder, then a bunch of 10% for tinnitus and things like that.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: The VA already does their fucked up math, however the system is exactly.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: And that'll come out to like 60%, right?
• 16:20
  So that 60% is going to be probably,
• 16:22
  I don't know what it is right now,
• 16:24
  maybe $2,100 a month.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_01: you're approaching the poverty line and everything.
• 16:29
  So what a veteran's going to do as they get out and as they see
• 16:34
  like their
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: conditions,
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: they start to be seen for more,
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: go to therapy,
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: go to medication management,
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: all that stuff.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: They're going to go, Hey, I'm fucked up more than I realized.
• 16:43
  Like I went through more than I realized,
• 16:46
  like,
• 16:46
  this is why I'm having a tough time.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: This is why I'm not sleeping.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: This is affecting my daily life.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: And there are like a lot of times where,
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: The doctors will talk to you and they'll be like, no, this is PTSD.
• 16:58
  This isn't just generalized anxiety disorder like the army or
• 17:02
  they initially rated you at.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: And that's going to affect the percentage.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: Now, at the same time, you're not able to maybe work full time.
• 17:12
  You're not able to function as a fully functioning human being,
• 17:16
  a grown adult and everything.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: And
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: you rely on that money,
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_01: you rely on that healthcare,
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_01: you rely on those benefits to get through life,
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: to be able to support your family and everything.
• 17:27
  So you're gonna go back and you're gonna appeal to the VA and
• 17:30
  you're gonna say,
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: hey,
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: they're telling me that my disability is worse.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: So when you apply for that,
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: you go through the whole process and you're gonna have like your rating
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: appointment.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: You go in there and
• 17:43
  when you're dealing with mental health stuff,
• 17:45
  you have good days and bad days.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody knows that.
• 17:48
  And the trick is with the VA is you always tell them about your
• 17:51
  worst day.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: What's the worst day that you have?
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: The panic attacks,
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: the crying,
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: the calling the veterans suicide line,
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: the veterans crisis line,
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: all of that.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just on a whim because the,
• 18:04
  your medical records and the writing and everything aren't
• 18:06
  going to give the
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_01: Raider,
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: whoever is in Virginia or whatever,
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: doing the rating,
• 18:11
  It's not going to give them the full context and the full story
• 18:14
  of your problems every day.
• 18:15
  And if you get a shitty Raider and that Raider sends them like,
• 18:20
  oh,
• 18:20
  he seems all right.
• 18:21
  Like he's not having more than three panic attacks a week,
• 18:25
  you know,
• 18:26
  all that shit.
• 18:27
  They can drop your rating from 50% down to 30% for that mental
• 18:31
  health stuff.
• 18:32
  And then you get a letter in the mail because some dude over in
• 18:35
  Virginia decided
• 18:36
  that he knows more about your disability than the doctors who
• 18:39
  are seeing you every
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: day.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_01: And then that 60% goes down to 40%.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_01: And now you're making $1,400 a month or $1,200 a month.
• 18:50
  And then you have to go out and try and find a job now when
• 18:53
  you're not fully able
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: to work and everything,
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: and you're struggling to support your family and stuff.
• 18:59
  And now,
• 19:00
  like Nick said,
• 19:00
  with that legislation,
• 19:01
  they can do this shit on a whim.
• 19:03
  They can send you a thing that says like,
• 19:05
  you have to come back in for a reevaluation and,
• 19:07
  um,
• 19:10
  They're going to ding these people every time because the
• 19:13
  appeals are going to take
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: too long to do and people aren't going to want to fight the system.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: So this is going to affect a lot of people.
• 19:20
  And because these conditions that most veterans have are not
• 19:24
  considered permanent,
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: they get to reevaluate at will.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 19:29
  And the only ones of us who are at the moment safe are those
• 19:33
  who are 100% permanent
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_02: and total disability.
• 19:36
  Because that is hard to get,
• 19:39
  that is nearly impossible to get re-rated at like
• 19:43
  I can't be re-rated unless I stop going to my doctor's
• 19:46
  appointments,
• 19:47
  then they'll re-rate me.
• 19:48
  But if I continue to use the service at least once a year and
• 19:52
  maintain my yearly
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_02: appointments,
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_02: the VA cannot touch my rating,
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_02: but it can for so many others.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like I'm,
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_02: again,
• 20:04
  I'm super fortunate that I am at the disability rate that I am
• 20:09
  because it affords
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_02: me the ability
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_02: to not work a full-time job.
• 20:17
  I work on Substack and I do the work here and I do all of this
• 20:21
  stuff behind the
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: scenes,
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: but I can't work a full-time job.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_02: I can't be in an office for eight hours.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_02: I can't even be in my office for a full day.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_02: I'm down half the time.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_02: I wish I could
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_02: hold a full-time job all the time and be fully available.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_02: But I can't.
• 20:47
  And the fact that I'm fully disabled right now affords me the
• 20:53
  ability to actually
• 20:56
  live a basic life where i'm not losing my house right now like
• 21:00
  i'm i'm able to pay
• 21:01
  my bills i'm able to but we can't do anything else it's not
• 21:05
  like i live a high life
• 21:06
  i don't go places i haven't been on a vacation in years like
• 21:11
  what we consider
• 21:12
  vacation is going like up into missouri to a nice hotel for a
• 21:17
  couple days like yeah
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: like a staycation
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
• 21:20
  like a staycation or our kids go to grandma's house and we get
• 21:24
  a couple nights to
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_02: ourselves.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_02: Like for us, just like so many other people, that's what vacation is.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's nothing different than normal everyday life.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_02: Just I don't have to be in front of the computer on those days.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_02: And I can't afford any of that.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_02: I can't afford a good life past that.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_02: But I have the,
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_02: at least with the VA,
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_02: I have medical care that I don't have to pay out-of-pocket prices for.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: I have...
• 21:55
  medical care my wife has medical care too because of her
• 21:58
  disabilities my kids get
• 22:01
  access because of champ va and i get access to higher education
• 22:06
  for my kids because
• 22:07
  of my disability rating but you're really fortunate yeah and
• 22:11
  the reason is though
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_02: you paid for it yeah like my body fucking sucks like i wish i could
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: I wish I could sit home at night and be under a pain level of like eight,
• 22:24
  like my normal at home nighttime pain level for normal people
• 22:28
  would be an eight.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_02: Like I sit there and I my leg is from my left leg from toe to.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_02: up my side to about here is like in flames and on fire.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: You touch it and it just goes off.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to talk off camera.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: We have to really talk off camera.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't slept on my right or on my left side and like
• 22:52
  eight years i think but what you're saying is it scares people
• 22:56
  like us too nick is
• 22:57
  like i fought for and i feel like scared of the government even
• 23:01
  saying that i have
• 23:02
  a hundred percent total disability you know what i mean it's
• 23:04
  like fuck what are
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: they gonna do like am i gonna say something but it's
• 23:10
  even with that it's fucking scary like having to think about
• 23:13
  them coming after us
• 23:14
  too and it's just like what happens if they do though like i we
• 23:20
  speak out and speak
• 23:21
  up all the time like if my family loses va coverage and my
• 23:27
  benefits and my wife's
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_02: benefits or things like that
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_02: we're, we're done.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's crippling.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_02: We would be,
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_02: and like someone's,
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_02: one of our friends neuro said in the chat is too,
• 23:40
  is it's going to come down for some people is between getting
• 23:44
  your medication and
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_02: affording a house or living.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well, this is what they want.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: They want us sick or actually, and uneducated and poor.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_01: At least we won't have to pay rent in the concentration camps.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: I guess that's a positive.
• 24:04
  wow i've already got a tattoo right here so they can't they
• 24:08
  can't put one on that
• 24:09
  side i'll get a matching one for this side you want to change
• 24:12
  the title from happy
• 24:13
  again to something else after that comment hey i'm thinking
• 24:16
  positive all right hey
• 24:18
  he's looking on the upside remember like prager you teachers is
• 24:21
  those slaves learn
• 24:23
  something and they they had fun while they were in the slave
• 24:26
  camps oh my god that
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: was don't worry that was really deep holy shit
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: Could you imagine us all in the same concentration camp?
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: We would fucking get them hell.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, my God.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: We'd be doing entertainment shows.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: We'd be doing the Three Stooges.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: The Four Musketeers would be coming out.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_02: We can't forget Walter.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_02: Walter's going to be there with us, too.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: Walter and I would be doing the Who's on First routine.
• 24:50
  Evan and I will relive the year that the Red Sox swept the – or
• 24:54
  came back and beat
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_02: the Yankees to then sweep the World Series.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_02: And we'll just replay those.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_02: We'll just replay that forever for everyone.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_02: But, I mean, we'd keep it fun.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_02: At least we'd have fun before we all died.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like, we'd have some good laughs.
• 25:12
  I would make sure that the guards knew which one I would
• 25:15
  consider the smeglomaniac of the bunch.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:19
  we'll find mushrooms and just hand them over to people
• 25:22
  throughout like our visits i
• 25:24
  literally just feel and this is the shitty part this is really
• 25:29
  the shitty part um
• 25:31
  about where we're at is the fact that like we are having these
• 25:35
  conversations that
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: the federal our federal government
• 25:39
  our tax dollars are paying these fuck sticks running these
• 25:41
  agencies right and they
• 25:44
  are deliberately making policy to hurt people deliberately
• 25:51
  intentionally right it
• 25:53
  is intentional hurt to hurt a veteran who is not just and it's
• 25:58
  not just the veteran
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: it's the veteran's family
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's their kids.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's the people they interact with.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's their access to the facility.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's their access to the pharmacies.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's their access to the choice program.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's their access to their own.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: After putting on the uniform,
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: taking the oath,
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: whether you served in battle,
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: served on a warship,
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: served in a naval base or an air station,
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: it doesn't matter.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: You sacrificed a certain amount of time and put your life on the line
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: So that those pieces of shit can fuck everybody else's life up.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_00: That's not how this was supposed to work.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: That was not the plan.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 26:38
  The whole point of creating the VA system was to have was to
• 26:41
  think was that the
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: federal government say,
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: thank you,
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: sir and ma'am for risking your life for our freedom.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: And now we're going to take care of you.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: After they fucked up Vietnam so bad.
• 26:56
  But the whole idea was to basically say thank you for
• 27:01
  sacrificing your personal and
• 27:03
  your family's freedom and your family's sacrifice for us so
• 27:07
  that we can live a
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: better life here.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: And you got
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_00: you know, listen, it's not perfect.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like our, our system of government is far from perfect.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 27:17
  But wasn't that the whole point was to form a more perfect
• 27:20
  union and it was to keep
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: running the experiment.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 27:25
  I would say from a scientific laboratory standpoint,
• 27:27
  this experiment blew up in the hood.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like,
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: this was like,
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: I mean this,
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: this right where we are right now,
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: this part of the experiment,
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: bad equations,
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: bad chemistry,
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_00: bad calculations,
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: just,
• 27:42
  scrap it like this is the bunsen burner blowing over all the
• 27:46
  glassware in the hood
• 27:47
  and you just got a total this is like do you remember in
• 27:49
  chemistry guys when you
• 27:50
  you took a piece of magnesium and you put it into hydroxic acid
• 27:55
  and you had to do
• 27:55
  it in the hood so you could hear that right this is like yeah
• 27:58
  and if you screwed up
• 27:59
  the molar concentration of the hypochloric acid the
• 28:02
  hydrochloric acid you had a
• 28:03
  bigger bomb well that was i mean that was meaning that was
• 28:06
  meaning chemistry
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: actually i missed the decimal point
• 28:09
  And I actually had a little bit bigger explosion in the hood
• 28:11
  than I wanted.
• 28:12
  Or you could be like my brother's friend who put a giant piece
• 28:16
  of potassium in
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_02: water and it exploded and landed in his hair.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_02: And he tried to catch his head on fire.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_02: My brother is actually one of my brothers.
• 28:32
  One of my brothers is actually the reason that my school has
• 28:34
  certain rules.
• 28:36
  My high school had certain rules in it by the time I was a
• 28:39
  senior because their
• 28:41
  senior chemistry project was they made gunpowder and fireworks
• 28:46
  and then they shot
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_02: them off on school property.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_02: And the teachers were like,
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_02: well,
• 28:52
  we can't get you in trouble because there was no rule
• 28:55
  explicitly forbidding it.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_02: But don't ever do that again.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: And we're about to create some new rules.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to create all the new rules.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_02: So by the time I was a senior,
• 29:06
  we didn't have as many fun things because my brother and his
• 29:09
  friends made it less
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_02: fun for the rest of us.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks, brother.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks, Dave.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_02: You screwed it up.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_02: Fucked up.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_02: There's always nobody.
• 29:18
  And there was a really good question I wanted to bring up
• 29:21
  because we haven't
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_02: brought it up around.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_02: This was thanks,
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_02: Nancy,
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_02: for asking this in the chat is,
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_02: are there rating changes to the,
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_02: are these rating changes to the VA going to be proactive?
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_02: Are they going to be backdated or are they going to allow,
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_02: I hate that term,
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_02: but grandfathered in,
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_02: um,
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_02: because this is all really disturbing.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't know.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I can answer part of this from an admin law issue.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_00: So this is all covered by, I think, 38 CFR something, 42, I think.
• 29:54
  So the legal challenge to all this is going to be how they
• 29:58
  apply it and how they apply it.
• 30:01
  So what's going to have to happen is there's going to have to
• 30:03
  be a case where
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_00: they've gone back and have relabeled somebody who...
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: now has a direct effect claim against the VA for a wrongful rating.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: So they have to institute the rule,
• 30:22
  and then they've got to actually have a test case to challenge
• 30:26
  the legal part of
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_00: it.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_00: And that's pretty much what's going to wind up happening.
• 30:31
  But until that happens,
• 30:32
  so what they can do,
• 30:32
  though,
• 30:33
  is the attorneys for the appellant
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_00: can,
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: or the petitioner,
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_00: excuse me,
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_00: in this case,
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_00: whichever veteran gets re-rated the wrong way,
• 30:44
  can actually ask the court for a stay ruling on implementation
• 30:48
  of the rating system
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: until the judge can parse out the legality of the law versus the order.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_00: And that's pretty much how administrative law works with the government.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: There has to be like some sort of test case.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: I do this a lot in the ALJ hearings with HHS.
• 31:05
  when they want to claw back money or they want to change a
• 31:08
  determination that was
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_00: already made by the contractor.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of how it works.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like it's nothing's permanent.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: There's always a way to battle it,
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: but you,
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: but unfortunately you need a,
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_00: you need an attorney that specializes in,
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_00: this work and it's not cheap.
• 31:28
  And they're going to go after someone who's disabled and
• 31:31
  someone who's probably
• 31:33
  trans or a minority group first because they're the easiest
• 31:39
  targets in their
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_02: opinion.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_02: And they think people are going to care less if,
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_02: say,
• 31:44
  a trans veteran has their rating redone compared to maybe a
• 31:49
  female veteran has her
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_02: rating redone.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_02: They're going to label the mental health thing the problem.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're going to culture war the shit out of it.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: Now, the interesting thing I have... Sorry, Nick, go ahead.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_02: And I was just going to say,
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_02: they're going to culture war the shit out of it,
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: and it's going to be gross.
• 32:05
  The interesting question I have is,
• 32:09
  are they going to outsource the ratings to a third party?
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  SPEAKER_00: To an outside contractor company?
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_00: Who would then be incentivized
• 32:17
  to reduce the ratings on veterans because then they would get a
• 32:21
  larger share of the
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_00: contract reimbursement on the bonuses,
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: right?
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: We see that now with the WISER project for like Ohio,
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_00: Texas,
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oklahoma,
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: for certain medical procedures that they're doing AI reviews on.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_00: These companies in the WISER project will look at stuff like this.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: So those companies have incentives to deny services.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: So those are the things that I don't know yet.
• 32:50
  And then we could probably do some more research and find out
• 32:52
  if they've farmed out
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_00: the reviews to an outside contractor agent.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: It wouldn't surprise me if they do that.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure they're going to use AI for it.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're already starting to.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_01: They're using it right now as a filtering system,
• 33:12
  looking for keywords and shit like that to determine which kind
• 33:15
  of raider they send
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_01: it to.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: to be determined and everything.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: We don't need control.
• 33:25
  I wonder if they're going to start asking what political party
• 33:27
  you or who you voted
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_02: for and if you've ever given donations to anything.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't know.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_02: They don't care about veterans.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_02: And this is bigger than veterans because they know
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_02: that if they can get away with coming after veterans,
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_02: they can get away with coming after anyone else in the country.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_02: Because veterans are the most diverse pop group of people.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_02: And if we don't care,
• 33:56
  They're going to just then implement it into the Medicare
• 33:59
  system or the Medicaid
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_02: system,
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_02: and then they're going to start re-rating on their side in terms of,
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_02: like we said,
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_02: accepting procedures or should you even get this claim accepted.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_02: They're going to just deny everything.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: Social security, disability, all that stuff.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: They're going to go first.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: They're going to go right from VA to SSDI,
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_00: and then they're going to go after the Medicare fee for service.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_00: the regular Medicare beneficiaries who are still fee for service,
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: who are not on Medicare advantage.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_02: This is a national security issue.
• 34:32
  This Eric and I were talking about this earlier is this is a
• 34:35
  national security issue.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_02: And so we, we need to talk about what we're for.
• 34:42
  Because that's one of the things I titled this show for a
• 34:45
  reason about what we're
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_02: for,
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_02: not merely what we're against.
• 34:48
  We're against dismantling the fucking VA and against
• 34:50
  dismantling health care and
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_02: against hurting people.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_02: But that's not just because we're against it.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_02: We're for people.
• 34:58
  We're for people because people have inherent value and people
• 35:02
  deserve to be
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_02: treated well,
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_02: just for living,
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_02: for existing.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_02: And if you're a veteran or a disabled person,
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_02: which I'm both of,
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_02: you deserve to get what you fucking were promised.
• 35:13
  We were promised care for the rest of our lives and everyone
• 35:18
  else should get the
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_02: same opportunity to care or have care.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: I want the VA system for everybody just better,
• 35:28
  but I want the same system where we pay into it with our taxes
• 35:32
  and we get returns
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_02: from it.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_02: And that's one of the returns.
• 35:35
  Whereas we have a health and human health secretary of health
• 35:38
  and human sacrifices.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_02: I need bear meat.
• 35:54
  this morning and it tasted like like iron i love it god i hope
• 36:01
  he just has so
• 36:02
  fucking bad yeah i i mean listen i hope you remember i've sat
• 36:07
  i've sat someday hang
• 36:08
  on a second one second one second guys i gotta mute for a
• 36:10
  second come on okay i
• 36:13
  hope rfk gets the day he deserves someday soon because fuck
• 36:18
  like he's literally put
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_02: these are all just
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_02: policies to kill Americans.
• 36:24
  And we have to admit that on a policy level that they are doing
• 36:28
  it with murderous
• 36:29
  intent because they believe in the school of thought that
• 36:33
  America is overpopulated
• 36:35
  by two-thirds and that we need to go down to 100 million people
• 36:39
  in this country.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_02: And the only way to get there
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_02: Just remember, we have 340 plus million people in the country right now.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_02: The only way to get to 100 million is exterminate 240 million people.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_02: Or move them somewhere else.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what they're going to do.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_02: That's what they want to do.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_02: That's why they are getting rid of health care.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like, just getting rid of it.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_02: They don't want us to have health care.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_02: They want us to die sick, young, weak.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: Guys, I said this to Melissa.
• 37:12
  They look at us,
• 37:13
  they look at people as a line item deduction on a spreadsheet.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: They see veterans costing $28.7 billion a year.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we can line item that right off.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: We can cut that 90% and we are saving,
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_00: and then we can take that money and put it into the ballroom.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_02: Veterans are cheaper dead than alive.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_00: Most people are cheaper.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, I'm worth more dead than alive.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_02: I cost you all a lot of money.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_02: I cost you all a lot of money.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm okay to pay for you.
• 37:52
  As a working American,
• 37:54
  I am more than happy to pay for any veteran who deserves care.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_00: Which is every veteran.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_01: Period.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody in the country should have the socialized
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: fucking health care that veterans have through the VA and everything.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_00: And we're going to have a conversation.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to have socialized medicine conversation now.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_00: We all really going to do that.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_01: We all have.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_01: We all pay tax dollars and we benefit.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, veterans benefit from those tax dollars.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: We fucking pay for everything.
• 38:27
  And billionaires don't pay shit in taxes and they get more
• 38:31
  socialized fucking money.
• 38:34
  stuff than anybody they get more social services than anybody
• 38:37
  more bailouts and all
• 38:38
  that and they don't pay in taxes so it's like what the we can
• 38:43
  pay for all this
• 38:44
  stuff i just there's i mean we just gave 80 billion to
• 38:49
  argentina to argentina or
• 38:51
  something so we can afford the banks to bail their asses out
• 38:56
  for the silver
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_02: shortage we're shorting the year
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_02: I think Peter Thiel just got on a new fat,
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_02: like five,
• 39:05
  like five or between five and $50 billion contract or some shit
• 39:10
  with the U S
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_02: government.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_02: So like we have the money, we have the money.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_02: We're just using it as a, to oppress people.
• 39:18
  I'm for everybody having socialized healthcare,
• 39:21
  healthcare for all healthcare for everyone.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_02: It's a, it should be a guaranteed right.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_02: I am an advocate for a social democracy.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_02: not a democratic socialist.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_02: I am an advocate for a social democracy.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's more important, and that's what we need.
• 39:36
  That's what Europe has,
• 39:38
  many states in Europe,
• 39:39
  and they're doing so much better than we are.
• 39:41
  And what that means is the government pays for the medical
• 39:45
  insurance and the
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_02: Medicare through our taxes,
• 39:47
  and we get access to that service as citizens for free because
• 39:52
  we've already paid
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: for the damn thing.
• 39:54
  Right,
• 39:55
  so you might have to wait two more weeks to get your knee
• 39:57
  replaced.
• 39:58
  oh yeah like okay like i i even even people who say shit like
• 40:04
  that they've never
• 40:05
  gone to the va no like people who are like oh you're gonna wait
• 40:09
  so much time you
• 40:10
  know sometimes other times i can walk right in and see my
• 40:16
  doctor but i can call my
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_02: mental health team any moment of the day and they'll answer
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: Right,
• 40:23
  but we can also set up a system where if you can afford
• 40:25
  additional insurance to
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: speed up your care,
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: you can.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: Fine.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: No, we're not saying capitalism is bad.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we need capitalism.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's part of our DNA as an American country is to have capitalism.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_00: We want people to make money.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_00: We want people to be profitable.
• 40:42
  We don't need people poor and destitute because of a system
• 40:47
  that oppresses them
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_00: because of medical debt.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's not it's so unnecessary.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_00: It is really completely unnecessary.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: like literally like I mean,
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: it was like the story I put out like last month,
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_00: which was like,
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: This guy who had no insurance came in with a diabetic foot ulcer.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: I had to get him into a clinical trial.
• 41:06
  And thank God that I had a clinical trial I could get him into
• 41:09
  that at least now
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: the care is covered.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: And he's doing amazing, by the way.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_00: He's like healed his diabetic foot in like 82% in four weeks.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_00: And he's doing so much better.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_00: And he's so much,
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: like he's on his way to literally,
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_00: the whole point is to not make sure he doesn't recur.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_00: But we don't get paid for preventative medicine.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: Our system is set up for completely reactive medicine.
• 41:33
  This is what's completely fucked about our healthcare system
• 41:35
  and why it's broken is
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_00: that as a provider,
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: it doesn't matter whether I was family medicine,
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_00: internal medicine,
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_00: gastro,
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_00: spine,
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_00: podiatrist,
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_00: doesn't matter.
• 41:45
  None of us are incentivized or monetarily compensated for
• 41:50
  providing preventative care.
• 41:53
  Nobody is reimbursed in this country for monitoring somebody's
• 41:56
  hemoglobin A1C for
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_00: their diabetes every three months to make sure they stay compliant.
• 42:00
  And then we are not rewarded as providers to make sure that
• 42:03
  we're working with our
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_00: patients to stay that way.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's all reactive.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you saw the patient.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: Here's your office visit.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_00: And here's your bill for the A1C.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: And that's it.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_00: Go get the laboratories.
• 42:14
  And there's no backside incentive to keeping that patient out
• 42:17
  of the hospital.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_00: And it's more expensive in the long run.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:22
  But you have lobby groups like the American Academy of
• 42:27
  Orthopedic Surgery.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not calling out the orthopedics in particular,
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_00: but they're like one of the worst ones where they literally,
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_00: if they're not cutting,
• 42:34
  they're not making money because orthopedic surgeons don't know
• 42:36
  how to do anything
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_00: but cut because that's what they're trained to do.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 42:40
  And then there's an incentive for the hospital system to have
• 42:45
  that surgery on a
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_00: Medicare beneficiary because of the diagnosis revenue group.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_00: that they get X amount of dollars for that procedure, right?
• 42:54
  And this is how the system is set up and it's really bad and
• 42:58
  it's unsustainable.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like we,
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_00: and it's like Nick said,
• 43:01
  it's not like the Medicare trust fund's ever gonna go bankrupt
• 43:03
  because they're
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_00: always collecting tax money.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_00: That money's always being funded.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_02: It's like Social Security.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's never going to go bankrupt.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_00: No, but it's just going to decrease.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_00: With the funds availability, it will decrease from year to year.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_02: Unless we tax rich people better.
• 43:18
  Well,
• 43:19
  if we actually tax rich people,
• 43:21
  we wouldn't have any financial fucking problems.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_00: The top 0.1% of this country could probably pull us out of half,
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_00: about two-thirds of our fucking national debt tomorrow morning.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, it's...
• 43:35
  I want to push back a little on one of the things you said
• 43:38
  about the healthcare.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: Don't be pushing back, baby.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_00: No, no pushbacks.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: I like pushing back.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_00: No pushbacks.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: Remember, you're requiring Walter.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_00: You got to have to do it.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: You're going to have to work twice as hard now.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_02: That's why I'm pushing back right now.
• 43:52
  The idea of being able to buy a head in line is,
• 43:55
  I think,
• 43:56
  to me...
• 43:57
  That's not what I said.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_00: No, no.
• 43:58
  What I'm saying is you could buy supplemental insurance that
• 44:01
  would allow you to...
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like alternative services that aren't...
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_02: I wanted to make sure because...
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_02: Some people in the chat, I think, also work.
• 44:11
  Let me clarify that if you can afford additional insurance
• 44:18
  beyond what is provided
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_00: in a universal health care model.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_00: OK,
• 44:22
  that allows you to see a physician who participates outside of
• 44:26
  the universal health
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_00: care system.
• 44:29
  that you can go and have your surgery done at a different
• 44:31
  facility and pay whatever
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_00: additional fees there are not to have it for free,
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: but you know,
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: like it just,
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_00: it's the same.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's,
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: it's a,
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_00: it's an add on to the system we have now,
• 44:40
  but not to the point where you're going to go ahead of people
• 44:43
  that are in the
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_00: universal healthcare system line.
• 44:46
  Like it's not going to be a,
• 44:47
  it's not going to be like a fast pass at Disney.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that would be.
• 44:50
  And that's,
• 44:51
  I think the guard where I think that's one of the guardrails
• 44:54
  that if we were to do
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_02: when we do something like this, because this has to happen like we
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_02: we keep talking about it and people are ready for it.
• 45:01
  I think at this point is the guardrail has to be there that
• 45:05
  just because you're
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_02: rich doesn't mean you get healthcare faster.
• 45:07
  It just means you can buy healthcare at different services that
• 45:11
  are outside of the
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_02: standard cares,
• 45:15
  which is with the money that we have in our country and the
• 45:19
  taxes that we could
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_02: bring in if we instituted a wealth cap in this country of some sort,
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_02: would make all of that so feasible and so easy.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_02: In fact, I bet your taxes would go down for it because who decides that?
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to play the devil's advocate.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to play the other side of the fence here.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_00: Who makes that determination on what that wealth gap is going to be?
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_02: We'd have to do it collectively through Congress.
• 45:50
  We'd have to have a Congress that would be willing to combat
• 45:54
  that idea because I don't
• 45:57
  I'm not talking about a wealth cap that makes people unable to
• 46:00
  be wealthy.
• 46:01
  I want people to still be able to strive for the wealth that
• 46:04
  they want if they want it.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_00: You think like a billion dollars?
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_02: Start at a billion dollars and move it up to the pace of inflation.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_02: Start at a hundred million and go on rates of inflation.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_02: I don't even know how you could live with a hundred million dollars.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_02: I can't even imagine what that would be like.
• 46:23
  okay so i think i think step one first before we even do a
• 46:26
  wealth cap is we have to
• 46:27
  stop treating corporations as people yeah yes okay like we need
• 46:32
  to well we need to
• 46:33
  fix that we need to fix that first like that like there are
• 46:37
  certain like we've
• 46:38
  talked about this ad nauseum on different threads and right
• 46:41
  like there are certain
• 46:42
  things like we have our wish list right like it's we have to
• 46:45
  stop taxing we have to
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_00: stop treating corporations as people and
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think somebody put in the chat,
• 46:51
  we have to stop allowing corporations to move headquarters to
• 46:54
  avoid paying taxes.
• 46:55
  Like if you do business in the United States,
• 46:57
  we're going to tax your company.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter where your fucking base of operations is.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_00: You want to have a base of operations in Ireland?
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_00: You want to start in Ireland?
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_00: But we don't care.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_00: You're going to get taxed.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_00: You sell one product here.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_00: You build one product here, sell one product here, make a single U.S.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_00: penny.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I can't say that anymore.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: There's no more pennies.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_00: They stop burning the pennies too.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_00: No more pennies, guys.
• 47:19
  because you know it was because it cost us two cents it cost us
• 47:23
  three cents to make
• 47:23
  a penny see here i'm not totally against ending physical
• 47:30
  currency if there was a
• 47:31
  system that actually was safe and wasn't controlled right you
• 47:35
  can't trust crypto
• 47:36
  and you can't trust the you know this is kind of like going
• 47:39
  back to like back in
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_00: the day before we had digital gas pumps
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: And this is how like the mafia would run stuff, right?
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_00: This was the organized crime in New York.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: He did the punks.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_02: We should ask Lev Parnas about it.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: He's talked about this.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: Lev wrote it.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, Lev talked about it in his book.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_00: This was part of how like the Ukrainian mafia handled.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I could go off about this.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_01: I love the mafia.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_01: I know all of it.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_01: It was Michael Francis.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_01: He was a member of the Lucchese family.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_01: His dad was like a hit man in Brooklyn.
• 48:17
  And Michael had all kinds of connections on like with the
• 48:20
  different families and stuff.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_01: And he worked with Russian mobsters in Brighton Beach.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_01: And these guys were running a tax scheme where they would charge.
• 48:32
  I think it was like two cents extra or something like that on a
• 48:35
  gallon of gas.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_01: And that two cents would go as a kickback to the Russian mob.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_00: And actually pump that two cents of gas.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_01: And he and then he was like, oh, well, the Italian mafia can do it.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_01: These dudes were making like 20 million dollars a week doing this.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Costa Nostra did it.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_00: They were packing 80.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_00: Levin, his book was saying how they were counting.
• 48:57
  At the time when they were doing this,
• 48:58
  when he was running,
• 48:59
  when he was as a driver.
• 49:01
  That they were counting anywhere between eight and I think it
• 49:04
  was it was either 10
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_00: to 20 million or eight and 10 million a week.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_00: They were counting cash.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_00: And then these guys would go to Atlantic City or go to Vegas,
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_00: and they were playing $100,000 hands,
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_00: living up...
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_00: To clean the money.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_00: Cleaning out the money and laundering it through the casinos,
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_00: which were all owned by the families,
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_00: right?
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like it was... Or Trump.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_00: But at least we knew that was... We knew it happened.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_00: And we were okay with it.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_00: We just accepted that that was...
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_00: that was okay.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_00: Laundering money.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like we,
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_00: like it wasn't until like,
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: if you,
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: but if you do too much of it,
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: then alert the authorities and then it got shut down and whatever.
• 49:40
  But the way the,
• 49:42
  what,
• 49:42
  what they're doing now is,
• 49:45
  is just fucking disgusting.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_01: And it's the government doing it too.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know,
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_01: like there's kind of like that when the mob was doing it,
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_01: they were bad fucking guys,
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_01: but there was kind of that like Robin hood,
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_01: like,
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh shit,
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_01: they're stealing from the man kind of thing.
• 50:01
  where they kind of got away with it but when it's the
• 50:04
  government doing it the
• 50:05
  people that are responsible for looking after your well-being
• 50:08
  it's and they're
• 50:09
  running crypto schemes and like that it's crazy man speaking of
• 50:14
  that do we still
• 50:15
  know steven miller's still living on the military base i think
• 50:18
  they all are christy
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: gnome all of them yeah i think they've all
• 50:23
  I think that's what they're all doing now because they think
• 50:26
  that's safe,
• 50:27
  which it's not.
• 50:30
  The military will arrest you too,
• 50:33
  and you don't want to go to military prison.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_00: As soon as Nick made that comment,
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_00: and we know him so well,
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_00: we knew there was going to be another backside comment with the smirk.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_01: There's so many fucking guns.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_01: There's so many.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 50:48
  like i'm gonna go live with those guys like have you met the
• 50:52
  has anyone met an mp
• 50:53
  before those dudes are angry those folks are angry because they
• 50:57
  do gate guard all
• 50:58
  day all they do is sit at the post entrances and check ids and
• 51:03
  they're just mad
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_02: they'll pull you over for going one mile over the damn speed limit
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's how pissed off they get.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_01: They inspect your vehicle for something to do.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, thinking about that.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_02: This is one of those things that the military did that I...
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_02: I'm surprised that some of these pro pedo folks are willing to do.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_02: And I doubt that they get these inspections is when I was on,
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_02: uh,
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_02: when I was in the army,
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_02: I was at a joint base,
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_02: Lewis McCord in Washington.
• 51:32
  And that was when they instituted the practice of checking
• 51:36
  trunks randomly at night
• 51:38
  because a Sergeant major had been caught with an underage girl
• 51:43
  in his trunk,
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_02: bringing her on base in his trunk.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_02: And then a first Sergeant was caught.
• 51:51
  And then some E7s and E6s were caught too,
• 51:55
  because they randomly checked trunks.
• 51:56
  I hope they start doing that with the Miller family and the
• 52:00
  Gnome family,
• 52:00
  because
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_02: You know, Christie's has a history of shooting dogs in the face.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, ain't going to be a nice person.
• 52:10
  I'm not laughing because it's just it was it was just the way
• 52:14
  Nick said it,
• 52:14
  actually.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_01: In Alaska,
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_01: like,
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_01: because I started thinking about,
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_01: like,
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_01: trafficking and stuff as soon as you brought up the people in the trunk.
• 52:22
  And when I was in Alaska,
• 52:26
  I was at Fort Wainwright and there was an NCO in my sections.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_01: He was an E5,
• 52:31
  like he was waiting to get kicked out and everything and had to
• 52:33
  go through the
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_01: whole court martial process and all this,
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_01: but they stuck him like in my section.
• 52:38
  he got charged with fucking cross like with uh like pimping
• 52:43
  girls out and stuff and
• 52:45
  he was just there in fairbanks like pimping out girls to
• 52:49
  soldiers and everything
• 52:50
  like trafficking women and stuff from the strip clubs and he
• 52:53
  got caught by an
• 52:54
  underage learned an undercover officer or whatever that he
• 52:58
  solicited to work for
• 52:59
  him and the army just was like all right dude you're just gonna
• 53:04
  go back to your
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_01: day-to-day thing and he was still an nco so it was like
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_01: This fucked up thing where he was going to get kicked out and he was like
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_01: trafficking women,
• 53:12
  but you still had to like respect his rank and like call him
• 53:16
  Sergeant so-and-so and
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_01: show deference and everything.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just like this fucked up,
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_01: especially looking back from the perspective now that that dude was like
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_01: trafficking women.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_01: And the army was just like,
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: all right,
• 53:30
  you can go back about your daily life because he didn't go to
• 53:33
  prison or anything.
• 53:34
  He just kind of got the slap on the wrist and was allowed to go
• 53:37
  back on about his
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: life and everything.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_02: And this too now,
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_02: as we talk about this conversation with trafficking and,
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_02: because that's a huge issue going on.
• 53:47
  is the military in general removed all of its reporting
• 53:51
  processes for sexual
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_02: assault and abuse and the SHARP programs.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_02: They're tearing those down.
• 53:58
  They removed all the JAG officers from the Pentagon and the
• 54:03
  entire JAG branch that
• 54:04
  would be able to prosecute and protect soldiers and service
• 54:08
  members when or if
• 54:10
  things like this happen or even prosecute the people who are
• 54:13
  performing these acts.
• 54:20
  base joint uh oh uh nick you were skipping oh no did we lose
• 54:28
  him did we lose him
• 54:31
  yeah there he is there we go okay i'm back they so those those
• 54:37
  ncos got putted by
• 54:39
  the military when they trafficked um people on to base that
• 54:45
  isn't going to happen
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_02: anymore like
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_02: We are making an environment where trafficking is the norm.
• 54:54
  Right now,
• 54:54
  the US is currently turning into an environment where
• 54:57
  trafficking is okay.
• 55:00
  And that's going to give permission to one of these crazy
• 55:06
  idiots who's in a uniform
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_02: to start doing it again.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_02: and get away with it.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_02: And nobody's going to prosecute them for it.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_02: And that's the sad part.
• 55:14
  But going back to like the Stephen Miller and folks going on
• 55:17
  base,
• 55:18
  you're not safe,
• 55:19
  bros.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_02: Wrong choice.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, wrong choice.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_02: We just know where to find you now.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_00: Can we, um, can we flip gears here?
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_00: Never, never.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_00: We can.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_00: What's up?
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_00: There's a new story that published on, on ground news.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um,
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_00: So this is about a trade deficit.
• 55:42
  So we all know about the tariffs and how Mr.
• 55:48
  Tariff thinks he knows what he's doing,
• 55:50
  right?
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_02: Two-week tariff over there?
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_00: So here's where it goes.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_00: So the trade deficit narrowed from $904 billion to $901 billion in 2024.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_00: So Biden was still president, guys, and the trade deficit did narrow.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_00: So here's what pretty much happened.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_00: The terrorists have not... Hey, Lev!
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Lev!
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_00: The big dog heard us talking about it.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, forget what I'm talking about.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, shit.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, love.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_02: You can join if you want, my friend.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_02: I sent you a text earlier that's got a show link.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_02: You're welcome to hop in with us and join in as Eric fucking leaves.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_01: He heard us talking about the Russian mob in Brighton Beach and was like,
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_01: oh,
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_01: I got fucking stories.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, Lev.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, if you don't know Lev Parnas, you probably should.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_01: He's driving.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_02: He's driving, so he won't join us.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, he's driving?
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_02: Good.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_02: Be safe, Lev.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_02: We'll have you on for a show.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, drive safe, buddy.
• 56:52
  We'll have you on here soon because I want your thoughts in
• 56:56
  some of these conversations.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_02: And this is... Yes.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_02: So what were you saying, Eric?
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_02: We were shifting gears.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_00: So the...
• 57:05
  The Commerce Department reported Thursday that the trade
• 57:07
  deficit narrowed to just
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_00: over $901 billion from $904 billion in 2024.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_00: So in April, the U.S.
• 57:14
  company's front-loaded imports to beat the 10% across-the-board
• 57:17
  duty imposed after
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_00: our fearless leader announced tariffs,
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_00: including reciprocal levies.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_00: And basically...
• 57:27
  What pretty much happened was that the U S trade deficit closed
• 57:31
  in 2025 up 32.6% in December.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_00: So the tariffs are having the opposite effect.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_00: Our trade deficit increased a third, right?
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_00: To 70.3 billion.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not surprised.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_00: And then,
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_00: Basically in a nutshell,
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_00: the record trade deficit and goods reached a record high in the U S.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_02: But I thought,
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_02: I thought we made
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_02: billions of dollars and trillions of dollars already.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_02: Did Donald Trump tell us we made trillions of dollars?
• 58:14
  Where's my 1776 check that soldiers were supposed to be in
• 58:18
  service members,
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_02: which was supposed to be a $2,000 check,
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_02: but he decided 1776 was better because,
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_02: you know,
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_02: Murica,
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_02: that eagle jizz,
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_02: he's just spewing everywhere and just tells everybody is cool.
• 58:29
  But he wanted to take almost $224 or something out of the
• 58:35
  pockets of every service member.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_02: Just so that it could say 1776.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_02: But I haven't gotten my tariff check back yet.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_02: Weren't we supposed to get tariff checks back?
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like $2,000 each year?
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_02: Those checks, all of it.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like those checks I'm still waiting for.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're all in the Qatari offshore accounts right now.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_02: So everybody, here's what... Going back to Russia.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_00: Zev could probably talk to more about this than I can,
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_00: because this is more about Zev's kind of wheelhouse.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_00: But like,
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_00: what we saw with Carney in writing his deal with China,
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_00: and now we're going to see Friedrich Merz,
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_00: who's the German chancellor.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_00: He's going to start doing this with China.
• 59:11
  And you're going to see the rest of the European Union doing
• 59:13
  this with China.
• 59:13
  And Shane's probably really on top of this,
• 59:15
  too,
• 59:15
  by the way,
• 59:15
  because that's,
• 59:17
  you know.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_00: So at the end of the day, everybody, what are we really talking about?
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_00: We're talking about this administration.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_00: has completely foobarred our trade deals with everybody else,
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_00: has screwed up our economy,
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_00: is forcing other countries to abandon us.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_00: See, even the dog agrees with me.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_00: Dog bell going off.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_00: Dog bell.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_00: And so what are we seeing?
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_00: We're seeing our allies basically saying with one loud,
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_00: resounding voice,
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_00: we do not trust the United States anymore.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_00: They are not a partner in our view of the world anymore.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_00: And we're going to find ourselves.
• 1:00:03
  And honestly,
• 1:00:04
  everybody,
• 1:00:05
  that's to scare the living shit out of everybody.
• 1:00:07
  Because what happens is that,
• 1:00:09
  remember,
• 1:00:10
  our debt's held by foreign agents in foreign countries.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_00: If they decide to call in those bonds, we are fucking.
• 1:00:21
  Is this going to be the first world war that Germany is on the
• 1:00:25
  right side of history for?
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_02: It might be.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_02: Can we be on the right side of history in this one too?
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like, can we not be part of the axis of assholes?
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because there is no other axis of assholes.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_00: We're just it.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_00: No category on our own at the top of the shelf right here.
• 1:00:44
  It's like,
• 1:00:44
  you know,
• 1:00:47
  yeah,
• 1:00:47
  well,
• 1:00:47
  you know,
• 1:00:48
  we're the Epstein class of assholes right now.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um, in the U S that's what we are.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_02: We're the Epstein assholes around the world.
• 1:00:56
  i mean i mean this is like so sad where like even the king of
• 1:01:00
  brit the king of the
• 1:01:02
  the king of the united the king of great britain allowed his
• 1:01:06
  own brother to be
• 1:01:07
  arrested and said the queen's son right right and enough's
• 1:01:14
  enough like yeah if
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_00: mubaton can be arrested
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_00: So can everybody else.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_00: There is nobody else.
• 1:01:23
  We're talking the royal family and we're talking about the
• 1:01:25
  Swedish royal family too.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_00: The longest reigning monarch.
• 1:01:31
  Isn't it like the Danish monarchy is falling apart or something
• 1:01:36
  right now?
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_01: I think that had something to do with the son or something.
• 1:01:41
  The son was charged with rape and the mom went above and beyond
• 1:01:44
  to try and protect him.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_01: And they were like, fuck that.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_01: We're not doing this.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_00: as a Jewish American,
• 1:01:51
  I would never have ever been at the point in my life where
• 1:01:56
  Israel and the United
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_00: States would be on the wrong side of the history equation.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_00: That is not how this was supposed to fucking go.
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_00: Golda Meir,
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_00: she wasn't like the cleanest premier of prime minister of Israel,
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_00: but she definitely tried to do it the right way.
• 1:02:16
  You know,
• 1:02:17
  Begin,
• 1:02:18
  all the other prime ministers of Israel would not have pulled
• 1:02:21
  this shit.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's what's happening right now with Netanyahu.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_02: We've turned like as another Jewish American, we have we have bought in.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_02: We were sold a narrative on Israel.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_02: that was very propagandized.
• 1:02:39
  And we allowed it to become the main narrative without pushing
• 1:02:43
  back on what Judaism
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_02: truly is or what Jewish people are and who we are.
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  And we allowed the Chabadists to take over and become the
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  loudest voice in the room.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think,
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  SPEAKER_02: Eric,
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  you and me and Lev would probably be a great person to have in
• 1:03:02
  that conversation,
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  SPEAKER_02: too,
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  SPEAKER_02: about that group of people.
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  But there's a sect of Judaism that has jumped in and that is
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  the reason for so much of
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  SPEAKER_02: the anti-Semitism going on, because they brought it towards us.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_02: They made it so we were the spotlight.
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  SPEAKER_02: We were the bad guys.
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  SPEAKER_02: They became the bad guys by choice.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the axis of assholes is the Russian mob, is run by the Russian mafia.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's what the US is.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's what Israel is.
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  Both were taken over by the Russian mafia because Russia told
• 1:03:43
  us they were going to do it.
• 1:03:46
  Zev Shalev and I talked and Shane talked about this too was the
• 1:03:50
  whole Russian mafia
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_02: influence piece and how
• 1:03:55
  it's it's all the same like we are a mob state israel is was
• 1:04:02
  taken over by the
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  russian mafia on purpose we just we just bought a 129 we just
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  bought a 24 million
• 1:04:12
  dollar warehouse from a russian backed llc dhs did for 129
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  million dollars in
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  SPEAKER_01: georgia
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  fucking five times the price so yeah you're right nick we are a
• 1:04:27
  fucking no it's
• 1:04:28
  because the toilet seats cost so much money yeah oh those
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  golden toilet seats they
• 1:04:33
  give them toilet seats or is it that it costs so much to take
• 1:04:36
  the seats off there's
• 1:04:38
  another story that broke on ground news by the way where they
• 1:04:40
  found israeli
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_00: listening equipment inside epstein's house
• 1:04:46
  well yeah not surprising I mean not surprising but I mean like
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  we don't really the
• 1:04:51
  whole thing or the Israeli Russian spy who just disappeared
• 1:04:56
  Smirnoff Smirnoff who's
• 1:04:58
  just gone can I real quick just point something out I'm not
• 1:05:03
  trying to toot my own
• 1:05:04
  horn or anything but I've been trying to proactively think
• 1:05:09
  about like how guys can
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_01: be better and that's like why we started the show and everything
• 1:05:14
  And we have shitbags like Nick Fuentes and all those streamers
• 1:05:17
  and influencers and
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_01: everything who just say whatever they want.
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_01: I want guys,
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  anybody watching this to know that when you don't know about
• 1:05:26
  something or when
• 1:05:27
  other people are talking about their lived experiences or
• 1:05:30
  something that they know,
• 1:05:31
  SPEAKER_01: it's okay to shut the fuck up.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_01: And it's okay to listen.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like,
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sitting here with two Jewish Americans and everything,
• 1:05:39
  SPEAKER_01: and I'm the whitest guy in the fucking world,
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_01: and I don't know anything about religion.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_01: I wasn't raised in it or anything.
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_01: So just shut the fuck up and listen sometimes.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_01: You'll learn something, I promise.
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry, that's all I wanted to say.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, can I, since we're at the...
• 1:05:53
  SPEAKER_02: we're a little bit over our time.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Eric, I want to give you a chance to promote yourself real quick.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_02: And then I want to, I want to close this out.
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_00: This is not my site, by the way.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_00: No, that's my site.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_02: That's my shop.
• 1:06:08
  SPEAKER_02: Go see, go visit my shop.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_02: You should, you should, uh, you should buy more.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_02: Buy some merch, then I can hire some folks.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go visit Sick of the Shop by Nick Pero.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_02: Here, let me let Eric first promote himself because he's got stuff to do.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_02: He's a busy man, unlike the rest of us.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_00: No, that's not true.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_00: You guys are just as important as I am.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_00: You've got doctor in front of your name.
• 1:06:34
  SPEAKER_00: There it is.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_00: First of all, doctor is my job, not who I am.
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_00: You guys should know that by now.
• 1:06:41
  SPEAKER_00: So shame on both of you.
• 1:06:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, but you take care of all of us.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_01: I do.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_00: I try.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_00: I try.
• 1:06:47
  SPEAKER_00: Listen, I try to be a good soul.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_00: And that's, you know, hopefully there's a space for me upstairs waiting.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_00: I got a reservation on hold.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not ready yet.
• 1:06:54
  But anyway,
• 1:06:55
  so everybody,
• 1:06:56
  please,
• 1:06:57
  my Substack is drlulove.substack.com.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_00: I have no paywall.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_00: Everything of mine is free.
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate everybody that subscribes to me and follows me.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_00: And here's my stuff that is so outside the scope.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_00: I try to bring the medical news and the medical stuff out.
• 1:07:18
  digestible for the masses so that's my role so I appreciate
• 1:07:22
  everybody in here and
• 1:07:23
  thank you to all the people who have been watching and
• 1:07:26
  participating and I'm going
• 1:07:27
  to pass it off to the man upstairs in the Yankee hat Mariners
• 1:07:34
  Mariners at least
• 1:07:35
  Mariners at least Mariners are pretty awesome yeah I know he
• 1:07:40
  actually didn't
• 1:07:40
  disclose which hat he was wearing earlier remember no I just
• 1:07:43
  assumed it was a
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yankee hat I made an assumption before that's fair
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_02: All right, Evan, promote yourself too.
• 1:07:51
  And then I'm going to close out our show with the last
• 1:07:53
  paragraph of my new article
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_02: that's going to be coming.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 1:07:57
  I'll be shameless this week,
• 1:07:59
  you know,
• 1:07:59
  because we talked about it earlier.
• 1:08:01
  SPEAKER_01: I rely on VA disability.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a fucked up veteran.
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'm crazy.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_01: And that allows me to do this work.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_01: One thing that I will say is that I'm feeling a lot better.
• 1:08:10
  I'm on the other side of a divorce and everything,
• 1:08:13
  or getting to the other side of one.
• 1:08:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel more like myself than I have.
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know how long, and I'm ready to get to work.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_01: I putting out a lot of stuff about,
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_01: um,
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_01: the shit storm that we're dealing with,
• 1:08:25
  with streamers and influencers on the right problems affecting
• 1:08:29
  working class
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_01: people,
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_01: veterans.
• 1:08:31
  that sort of stuff keeping up on regular news newsletters so
• 1:08:35
  subscribe to news from
• 1:08:36
  underground i love you guys i appreciate you thank you so much
• 1:08:40
  yeah don't don't put
• 1:08:40
  that previous part where you're crazy on your dating site by
• 1:08:43
  the way don't make
• 1:08:45
  sure that's the first sentence i'm crazy no no dating sites no
• 1:08:51
  no no no no thank
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_01: you
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_02: And then because I'm wearing Walter on my back.
• 1:08:59
  SPEAKER_02: Where's Walter?
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_02: Where's Walter?
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_02: Where's Walter?
• 1:09:03
  SPEAKER_02: He's on my back.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_02: You should go.
• 1:09:05
  Everybody,
• 1:09:06
  please support and subscribe to I'd Rather Be Riding with
• 1:09:09
  Walter Ryan.
• 1:09:10
  SPEAKER_02: He's out today having a personal day,
• 1:09:13
  SPEAKER_02: and I'm so excited to see if he got some pictures from his event.
• 1:09:17
  I think he's out skiing today,
• 1:09:18
  and it's going to be freaking awesome to see.
• 1:09:21
  SPEAKER_02: He sent us a really cool picture the other day where he was zoomed down,
• 1:09:27
  SPEAKER_02: and the picture was up,
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_02: but it was him skiing when his beard was iced over.
• 1:09:33
  SPEAKER_02: I'm so excited.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_02: So excited to see the pictures and get to talk with him again.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_02: Y'all know and love Walter.
• 1:09:39
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• 1:09:40
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• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_00: By the way, what was the name of the monster animal in...
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_00: Empire Strikes Back that swatted Luke off to Tauntaun?
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_00: That's what he looked like.
• 1:10:01
  SPEAKER_00: I forget.
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_02: I forget.
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_02: If somebody knows in the chat, please shout it out.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_03: And then come support me.
• 1:10:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I forgot too.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_02: And I love Star Wars.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_02: I got the poster, the wooden poster for the first.
• 1:10:19
  SPEAKER_00: There we go.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_02: Big guy.
• 1:10:25
  SPEAKER_01: Lost himself.
• 1:10:27
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know shit about Star Wars.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_01: I just got quick Google fingers.
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_02: And so while we do this,
• 1:10:35
  come join me here at Sick of the Shit Publications where we do
• 1:10:37
  a lot of this men's
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_02: talk and discussions and we're trying to
• 1:10:42
  make a manosphere that doesn't suck because Nick Fuentes and
• 1:10:47
  Andrew Tate and others
• 1:10:48
  like that are awful are fucking awful people and they suck and
• 1:10:54
  they suck and they
• 1:10:56
  they are making a lot of noise and they're trying to capture
• 1:11:00
  the group that is in
• 1:11:01
  need of help right now which is a lot of men and I say that as
• 1:11:04
  a man is we need to
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_02: help each other
• 1:11:08
  We need to be the ones helping because women and others have
• 1:11:11
  given us the tools and
• 1:11:12
  SPEAKER_02: said,
• 1:11:13
  SPEAKER_02: here's what you need to do.
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's on us to take that accountability and do it.
• 1:11:17
  SPEAKER_02: So that's what we're doing here at Sick of the Shit Publications.
• 1:11:20
  SPEAKER_02: Diogenes Club is part of that.
• 1:11:22
  SPEAKER_02: We're asking, where are the men?
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_02: That's the heart of Diogenes is where are the men?
• 1:11:28
  SPEAKER_02: And or who is a man?
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_02: What is a man?
• 1:11:30
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we're going to help define it.
• 1:11:32
  So here in a couple of minutes,
• 1:11:33
  y'all are going to get a new article from me coming out.
• 1:11:36
  actually in about a minute,
• 1:11:38
  so it'll be coming out right as we end this show.
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_02: I want to read the last paragraph from it,
• 1:11:43
  SPEAKER_02: because Evan commented back,
• 1:11:46
  I sent it to Eric and Evan and Walter earlier to get their
• 1:11:49
  thoughts and feedback on
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_02: before I sent it out,
• 1:11:52
  SPEAKER_02: and Evan told me he really enjoyed this part,
• 1:11:55
  SPEAKER_02: and I do too.
• 1:11:55
  SPEAKER_02: This is one of my favorite pieces of this.
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_00: Full disclosure,
• 1:12:01
  SPEAKER_00: I was coming off of Patience,
• 1:12:02
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't get a chance to read it,
• 1:12:03
  SPEAKER_00: but I'm looking forward to it.
• 1:12:05
  SPEAKER_02: And so,
• 1:12:06
  SPEAKER_02: Here's what I have to say to close out my latest article.
• 1:12:09
  SPEAKER_02: And I look forward to y'all being able to read it.
• 1:12:11
  SPEAKER_02: I'll link it in the post show notes as well,
• 1:12:13
  SPEAKER_02: as long as a video,
• 1:12:14
  as well as a video from Chris Goldsmith explaining what to do
• 1:12:18
  around the VA stuff.
• 1:12:20
  SPEAKER_02: He put a video out on YouTube, a short on what I can actually do to help
• 1:12:26
  focus our anger and focus what we need to do rather than just
• 1:12:29
  spitting out into the void.
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_02: So here we go, y'all.
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_02: And this is from On Offense, Intelligent Masculinity article number five.
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_02: There is no future where intelligent masculinity wins by being passive.
• 1:12:43
  The men most vulnerable to fragile masculinity are not looking
• 1:12:46
  for theory.
• 1:12:48
  SPEAKER_02: they're looking for practical orientation,
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_02: a way to understand their power,
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_02: their anger,
• 1:12:53
  SPEAKER_02: their responsibility,
• 1:12:54
  SPEAKER_02: and the place in the world.
• 1:12:56
  SPEAKER_02: If we fail to offer men and boys a disciplined,
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_02: ethical,
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_02: assertive model of masculinity,
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_02: someone else will offer them a dangerous one.
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_02: So this is the shift from explanation to assertion,
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_02: reaction to initiative,
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_02: dominance to stewardship,
• 1:13:14
  SPEAKER_02: and go from defense to on offense.
• 1:13:17
  SPEAKER_02: Intelligent masculinity does not ask for permission to exist.
• 1:13:21
  SPEAKER_02: It shows up, sets standards, and lives with the consequences.
• 1:13:26
  SPEAKER_02: And you know what?
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_02: That is strength.
• 1:13:30
  SPEAKER_03: Ooh.
• 1:13:31
  SPEAKER_02: So I want to leave y'all with that fire.
• 1:13:34
  SPEAKER_02: That's fire.
• 1:13:36
  SPEAKER_02: Fire.
• 1:13:36
  SPEAKER_01: That's what the fuck I'm talking about.
• 1:13:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:13:39
  SPEAKER_02: I'm so excited for these articles to come out.
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_02: And if anyone wants to cross post them to their publication,
• 1:13:45
  SPEAKER_02: or if there's larger publications,
• 1:13:46
  SPEAKER_02: they'd be interested in republishing these.
• 1:13:48
  I am open to having that happen because I think this discussion
• 1:13:52
  is super,
• 1:13:53
  super important.
• 1:13:55
  SPEAKER_02: So let's leave ourselves with that.
• 1:13:56
  SPEAKER_02: As we show up,
• 1:13:58
  We set standards and we live with the consequences because that
• 1:14:03
  is man and that is strength.
• 1:14:06
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks, y'all.
• 1:14:07
  Have a great day and we'll see you all again in two weeks for
• 1:14:10
  another Diogenes Club.
• 1:14:11
  SPEAKER_02: Soon this will be a weekly show, so don't worry.
• 1:14:14
  SPEAKER_02: Starting in March, we're going to be going weekly.
• 1:14:16
  SPEAKER_02: So see you all in two weeks.
• 1:14:18
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks, you guys.
• 1:14:19
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody have a great day, everybody.
• 1:14:20
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks, guys.