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  Speaker 2: I actually was here eight six days ago on Saturday
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  Speaker 2: for Day one one, and yesterday was the first day
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  Speaker 2: we saw pads. Guys getting after it a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: And today fans are back here as well, which is great.
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  Speaker 2: And we've got George Hallani coming out here in a second.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna check in with him. We got a lot
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  Speaker 2: to get to today. We're gonna replay the Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 2: interview from yesterday a little bit later in this hour,
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  Speaker 2: but uh, I wanted to check in with uh, with
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  Speaker 2: this guy like this, George, George right here?
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  Speaker 3: How are you man?
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you. There you go, We'll hand that
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  Speaker 2: to you. We've been We're live on live on kJ
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  Speaker 2: R and Seattle. How are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Man? Can you hear me? Okay? Oh? Actually you know
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  Speaker 3: what I need to turn you on? How's that now?
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  Speaker 3: I can hear you? How's it going?
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  Speaker 4: Pretty good?
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  Speaker 2: I've been wanting to talk to you for a while,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of fans wanted to get to know
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  Speaker 2: you a little bit as well.
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  Speaker 3: You had a heck of a year last year. You're
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  Speaker 3: coming in here.
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  Speaker 2: You're one of those guys that Schneider and uh, Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald love, kind of an undrafted guy that's gonna come
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  Speaker 2: in and just grind away year three.
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  Speaker 3: How different is it for you?
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  Speaker 7: So?
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  Speaker 8: Honestly, it's it's a lot different, honestly, just because the
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  Speaker 8: amount of reps. I just been getting these past, you know,
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  Speaker 8: a couple of practices, but just trying to make the
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  Speaker 8: best of it and just just what they have in
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  Speaker 8: planning for me.
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  Speaker 2: You we enjoyed something so yesterday, do you you're running back,
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  Speaker 2: So it's a little different than some of the other guys.
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  Speaker 3: Do you like when the pads come on?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, I figured you with I figured you,
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  Speaker 2: so pads come on yesterday one of the highlights for
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  Speaker 2: US media nerds. We're walking around, you know, we're not sweating,
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  Speaker 2: We're just kind of watching you guys the one on
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  Speaker 2: one pass rush drills, and I think the consensus was
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  Speaker 2: in the one session it was best on best you
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  Speaker 2: and Ernest Jones going going ahead to head, iron sharpens
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  Speaker 2: iron going against him.
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  Speaker 3: Is that Is that how you gonna look at it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure. I mean I felt like it's another day.
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  Speaker 8: We have more one on one pass pro wrets, which
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  Speaker 8: is pretty good. Yeah, but it definitely definitely helps us
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  Speaker 8: get better just to see, you know, what we need
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  Speaker 8: to work on. For me, just being able to take
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  Speaker 8: out that space and then step to contact versus you know,
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  Speaker 8: just waiting or just opening up with that open step,
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  Speaker 8: thank you, and then I get a.
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  Speaker 3: Smoothie in here by the way, and then.
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  Speaker 8: Being able just to be physical when it comes to
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  Speaker 8: you know, team periods, that's when it matters most.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for you, I mentioned it's the third year and
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  Speaker 2: you had a really nice career at Boise State, really
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  Speaker 2: good career. Injured, old, banged up, right, Like, got an
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  Speaker 2: injury and then that kind of sidetrack you and stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that, the journey along the way to get to
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  Speaker 2: the point where you're now. And I think it's safe
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  Speaker 2: to say I don't want to You're an established NFL player,
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  Speaker 2: you know what your role is. We just talked about that.
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  Speaker 2: What was the journey like to get here? How challenging
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  Speaker 2: was it? How many downs did you have? How many
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  Speaker 2: lows did you have where you had to try to
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  Speaker 2: find a way to pick yourself up.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it was really challenging in college, just
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  Speaker 8: with a lot of injuries. So I think being able
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  Speaker 8: to be more proactive with my body, getting in the
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  Speaker 8: training room, working on things to prevent certain injuries was
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  Speaker 8: the biggest thing. So just getting with the trainers like
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  Speaker 8: Michael Tang that's one of my trainers that I go
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  Speaker 8: to every time, and it working with you know, people
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  Speaker 8: like the acupuncture Lady Ming Ming, getting right with the
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  Speaker 8: chiropractor as well, and then doing other stuff outside the
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  Speaker 8: facility where I can, uh, whatever it is, whether it's
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  Speaker 8: hot yoga or just working on the body. Focusing on
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  Speaker 8: the body what I need to work on, Uh, definitely
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  Speaker 8: has helped a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Is there anything you don't do then you did? You
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  Speaker 3: just ran though?
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  Speaker 2: You just did, like the gambul acupuncture, chiropractor, weights, nutrition,
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  Speaker 2: what did I mean, hot yoga, this like, but that's
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  Speaker 2: the life of an NFL player, right like, that's that's
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  Speaker 2: what did you learn about that level? Because when you're
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  Speaker 2: playing I mean Boise State, great program, good everything there.
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  Speaker 3: What did you learn about this level? What was so
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  Speaker 3: different about this level?
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  Speaker 2: Is it just what you talked about it's you're you're
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  Speaker 2: not a college student, obviously, but what did you learn
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  Speaker 2: about this level?
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  Speaker 3: That transition?
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  Speaker 8: I mean just meeting the people, the players around, the resources,
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  Speaker 8: being able to talk to people about you know, what
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  Speaker 8: we have and you know all these things are free
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  Speaker 8: for us. So just utilizing it and just making the
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  Speaker 8: best of it has helped a lot for me.
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  Speaker 3: You got to play in a Super Bowl and win
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  Speaker 3: a Super Bowl? What was that like?
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  Speaker 8: It was once in a lifetime hopefully not hopefully not
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  Speaker 8: for me. Not for me, you know, it was just
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  Speaker 8: it was just to be out there and be a
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  Speaker 8: part of that. It was a blessing for me just
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  Speaker 8: because you know, I never knew when my name was
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  Speaker 8: going to be called, just because I was on I R.
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  Speaker 8: And then going into that and having the whole game
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  Speaker 8: plan dialed and then knowing my role going into that,
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  Speaker 8: It was really exciting just to go in there and
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  Speaker 8: execute every time I was on the field, being able to,
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  Speaker 8: you know, have that trust from the coaches like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 8: he can go in there, he can make sure he's
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  Speaker 8: stout in the past, protection, whatever they whatever they need
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  Speaker 8: need to do, go out there and do it well.
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  Speaker 2: And I asked what it was like, and I haven't
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  Speaker 2: asked many guys that, you know. I mean, I grew
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  Speaker 2: up in Seattle. I grew up a Seahawk fan and
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  Speaker 2: then covered the team for many, many years for a
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  Speaker 2: TV station in town. Don't do that anymore, but did that.
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  Speaker 2: But I remember going to the Super Bowl in twenty
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  Speaker 2: thirteen as a media member, just as a media person
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  Speaker 2: and all the hooplus running, but then the game in
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  Speaker 2: New York and just sitting up there like.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, all the lights going off and all that. It's surreal,
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  Speaker 3: isn't it? Isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Because they want to say you want to treat like
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  Speaker 2: every other football game, it's not, though it can't be.
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  Speaker 2: When did it feel like or any other football game?
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  Speaker 8: Shoot, honestly, it was a lot different, just because that
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  Speaker 8: week leading up to the game, there was so many
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  Speaker 8: things we had to do as a team, like all
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  Speaker 8: this media stuff, all these different events we had to
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  Speaker 8: attend as a team. But you know, finally getting to
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  Speaker 8: it once the ball was kicked and you know, playing
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  Speaker 8: in that game, it was just for us. It's just
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  Speaker 8: another game. We get to go out there and win.
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  Speaker 8: Like guys is out there flying around, defense, dominant as usual.
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  Speaker 8: But you know, it was the same team I seen
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  Speaker 8: all year, none different. So it was what I expected.
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  Speaker 8: That comes from the head coach, doesn't it. What's he
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  Speaker 8: like he's for a player, for a player, he's really unique.
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  Speaker 8: He knows what's best for the team, what we need
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  Speaker 8: to work on. Especially as an offense, you're getting the
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  Speaker 8: best looks every practice just because he wants to see
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  Speaker 8: every situation in that certain place. So you're getting all
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  Speaker 8: types of blitz, all types of zone looks versus one
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  Speaker 8: look and we run you know, the same plays, similar
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  Speaker 8: plays every day. Just nailing the little details on the offense.
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  Speaker 8: So just being able to be doubting and hone in
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  Speaker 8: on every detail like from pressure, different structures, whatever the
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  Speaker 8: defense is in. Uh, just being able to dial in
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  Speaker 8: on that has helped us a lot on offense with details, George.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that we had Mike McDonald sat
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  Speaker 2: down with us yesterday after practice and we talked to
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  Speaker 2: him and he he had mentioned this to us in
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  Speaker 2: the media a few days ago too, that Brian Flurry
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  Speaker 2: coming in. One of the things that he's noticed is
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  Speaker 2: Mike said. Mike McDonald said, I'm learning from him every day,
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  Speaker 2: which is wild because it's the first time offensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 2: But the sponge that's McDonald is bringing that in. And
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  Speaker 2: we asked him, like, what are you learning and he
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  Speaker 2: talked about details, like little details. That's not an indictment
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  Speaker 2: on Quinn Kubiak. He's the head coach of the NFL now,
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  Speaker 2: for goodness sakes, right, but what's the differences between Flurry
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  Speaker 2: and what you've seen here in the past the last
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  Speaker 2: couple of years.
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  Speaker 8: It's a it's similar but different, just because you know,
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  Speaker 8: we have certain plays from last year similar and then
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  Speaker 8: having a mixer with you know where he was coming
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  Speaker 8: from resiners, So it's it's a it's a good mix
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  Speaker 8: for us to see, you know, what we need to
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  Speaker 8: work on as the offense, you know, whether it's the
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  Speaker 8: run game, pass game, but being able to whatever we run,
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  Speaker 8: just be able to emphasize that.
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  Speaker 2: The I don't expect you to give away trade secrets,
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  Speaker 2: but one thing that's us knuckleheads are noticing, feels like
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  Speaker 2: the running backs see the ball a lot more in
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  Speaker 2: the pass game. Is that by coincidence that just what
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  Speaker 2: you guys are working on right now, or is this
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  Speaker 2: a guy that maybe wants to get you guys out
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  Speaker 2: of the backfield involved little bit more in the passing game.
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  Speaker 8: I think that that just comes with the details. You know,
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  Speaker 8: when when you're a running back and you have great
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  Speaker 8: eyes with pattern recognition of defense and their blitzes and
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  Speaker 8: tendencies with the mixed downs or whatever down, it is
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  Speaker 8: like you you start to notice, oh, they're not coming,
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  Speaker 8: so you know, we got to get out now. And
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  Speaker 8: being available in a pass game is going to be
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  Speaker 8: huge for this offense for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Wonder who that helps on the running back room. Let
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  Speaker 2: me think I.
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  Speaker 3: Think I think he might wear thirty six? Am I
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  Speaker 3: right in that regard.
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  Speaker 2: That's right up your alley pass pro, catching the ball,
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  Speaker 2: special teams, all those things.
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  Speaker 3: Right. So al right, what's in the smoothie? I got it?
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  Speaker 3: What's in the smoothie today?
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  Speaker 8: So we got a mango orange juice vanilla away and yeah,
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  Speaker 8: that's about it.
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  Speaker 3: Is that just a post lunch prepractice, little hydration. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Usually I don't eat breakfast, so I usually have like
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  Speaker 8: a smoothie, but you know, today I definitely had to
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  Speaker 8: make sure I got to break this.
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  Speaker 3: So are you guys, Are you guys back in past today?
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  Speaker 9: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta let's you gotta get ready there? All right?
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 2: George Holane love having him, come bye, Thanks all for
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  Speaker 2: stopping by. Congratulations on a heck of a start to
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  Speaker 2: your career. It's one of the great stories out here.
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  Speaker 2: But there's so many good stories, you're one of them.
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  Speaker 2: Have a great season. Thanks for coming, b I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, George Holane. We'll let them have a smoothie.
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  Speaker 2: Come back with more. Mike McDonald coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: Now back to Ian Forness at the Virginia Mason Athletics
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  Speaker 2: They want to mention one thing here. In just a second,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna hear from Mike McDonald from yesterday. I just
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  Speaker 2: had a really fun conversation, did you Millen and I
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  Speaker 2: with with Mike McDonald Andrews. I think we're gonna do
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  Speaker 2: this Monday or Tuesday. We're giving away a pretty cool prize.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, when I was checking in today, one of
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  Speaker 2: the security guys was saying, hey, man, I heard this
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  Speaker 2: morning you guys are giving away a Hard Knocks cornhole set.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, right, I said that's what they
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  Speaker 2: tell us, and he goes, that sounded pretty cool, and
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  Speaker 2: I said, he says, are you doing it today? I said, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not doing it today, but thanks for asking. But
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you right now, the Seahawks. I can tell
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  Speaker 2: you the Seahawks aren't celebrating anymore. They're getting back to work.
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  Speaker 2: Go inside the building with itsfending Super Bowl champions as
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  Speaker 2: Hard Knocks training camp with the Seahawks, giving an all
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  Speaker 2: access looking at the coaching, stars and players ballant to
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  Speaker 2: earn their spot for another championship season. Don't miss the
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  Speaker 2: premiere Tuesday, August four, six pm streaming. Exucis to be
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  Speaker 2: party Victory Hall in the box Yard on August fourth.
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  Speaker 2: Doors opening two episode starts at six. I bring all
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  Speaker 2: that up. We will give away that Cornhole set probably
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  Speaker 2: Monday or Tuesday. I have intel that I'm gonna share
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  Speaker 2: on Monday or Tuesday from what Hard Knocks is doing.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I like that insight. I've been been grinding
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  Speaker 2: on some of the guys and trying to figure out
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  Speaker 2: find out what they're doing. So I got that. So
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  Speaker 2: I'll kind of give you guys a little heads up
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  Speaker 2: before the premiere on Tuesdays. That sound good, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: do that in conjunction with giving away the cornhole set.
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  Speaker 5: All right, all of that set.
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald joined us yesterday after the first padded practice
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  Speaker 2: email and sat down with me as well and Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald's stopping by. First thing we asked him was how
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  Speaker 2: was that padded practice?
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  Speaker 7: That was a great day today. I'm really really happy
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  Speaker 7: with today's practice. Guys came out with great intent off
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  Speaker 7: coming off the off day morning practice. Uh, it was physical,
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  Speaker 7: that took care of another, We sharpened each other, we
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  Speaker 7: got after it, competed, tucked a little smack. It was,
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  Speaker 7: it was, It was great. It's really good execution going on.
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  Speaker 7: So I can't wait to watch the tape. What's the
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  Speaker 7: fine line between the physical nature? You want to see?
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  Speaker 7: There was one small scuffle, where do you Because it's changed,
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  Speaker 7: there'll be some scuffles as we go. I mean, we
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  Speaker 7: want to take obviously when we talk about twelve is
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  Speaker 7: one like that. That's kind of our guiding principles. That's
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  Speaker 7: kind of a non negotiable.
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  Speaker 3: But you kind of know.
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  Speaker 7: When you see it, like when there's fair physicality and
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  Speaker 7: and ones where you're not taking care of your teammate.
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  Speaker 7: And so we obviously want to minimize the ladder and
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  Speaker 7: the guys did a great job of that, and so
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  Speaker 7: I think I think that's when the scuffles start to happen.
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  Speaker 7: It's when they feel like there's unnecessary shots, which at
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  Speaker 7: some point in camp that's it's inevitable to a certain degree.
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  Speaker 7: But our guys on the whole they've been they've been
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  Speaker 7: great with it.
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  Speaker 3: Nice. What's the biggest challenge that you have? I guess
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  Speaker 3: sat right down between the eyes, I love it.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's so what's the biggest challenge? I was I
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  Speaker 10: got traded the Cowboys after they won their first Super
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  Speaker 10: Bowl and and you know, Jimmy Johnson was doing all
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  Speaker 10: these things to try and say, okay, let's you know, listen.
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  Speaker 3: Keep the gas going. Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 10: So, So so what are the what are the strategies
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  Speaker 10: that you think are most important to connect with your team,
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  Speaker 10: like coming off of yeah, yeah, just just having won
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  Speaker 10: the Super Bowl and then say, okay, now I know
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  Speaker 10: you're going say let's run it forward. You got that,
• 15:21
  Speaker 10: But what what what what challenges are are.
• 15:24
  Speaker 7: I think I think we have to we I think
• 15:27
  Speaker 7: the first thing we try to do is kind of
• 15:29
  Speaker 7: put everything in perspective. So what we use with our
• 15:34
  Speaker 7: team was, hey, we we love what we did. We're
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: very proud what we did. That's gonna that's gonna be
• 15:38
  Speaker 7: something that we have the rest of our lives. You guys
• 15:40
  Speaker 7: earned it. It's freaking awesome. There's a banner, there's a troap,
• 15:43
  Speaker 7: but that's like a one. That's a that's an end time,
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: one time thing that you can't even if you win
• 15:47
  Speaker 7: to the super Bowl, you're not gonna replicate. It's a
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: different that's a different season. So we're gonna recognize that. However,
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: I think the things that we're take the most pride
• 15:55
  Speaker 7: in and believe the most in is like our way
• 15:58
  Speaker 7: of life. And part of that is by moving for
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: all the time and chasing edges and pushing each other
• 16:03
  Speaker 7: and being the best version all those types of things,
• 16:05
  Speaker 7: you know, the daily inputs, the grind of pat you know, yeah,
• 16:08
  Speaker 7: all these things that like we cherishes that process and
• 16:11
  Speaker 7: so let's go nail our process, you know. And part
• 16:13
  Speaker 7: of that is growing and pushing each other, having new
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: people and having them integrated the whole process. And so
• 16:18
  Speaker 7: like to me, when I'm talking about that, like that
• 16:20
  Speaker 7: fires me up. I think that I think our guys
• 16:22
  Speaker 7: are excited about that, and uh, and that's what we're
• 16:26
  Speaker 7: and that's what we're attacking.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Sometimes.
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: You know, we've we've had a couple of days where
• 16:29
  Speaker 7: we're not probably didn't necessarily hit it in certain aspects
• 16:31
  Speaker 7: of our team, and we kind of just Okay, well
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: we missed it. Let's go, let's go. What do we
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: do we need to do now to go go nail
• 16:38
  Speaker 7: it today? And then you just kind of, you know,
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: take it one bit, one day at a time, try
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: out to be too cliche.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald, who is the head coach of the defending
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions, How does that sound?
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: By the way, that sounds good? You just you just
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: downplayed with you a little bit.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: But I wonder at what point and how at what
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: point did you sit back and just say I can enjoy,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I can feel satisfied, I enjoy I have that Moniker,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna get that ring. There's a great
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: video of you and your wife and your son on
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: the field. Afterwards, I think she said something like, hey,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: how was your day, which is a great line by her. Yeah,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: there you go, and congratulations number two on the way,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: thank you. At what point did you just kind of
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: maybe sitting at home, maybe in March, maybe in February,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: say damn, we did it.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Oh you know, I don't know.
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: You're probably not gonna believe me, but it's just I
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: think it's something that it's kind of stored away that
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: like that happened.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Does that makes sense?
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Well, that's that's that mentality of the coach, right, you
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: just said it. But yeah, you're always looking forward, so
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: you haven't really been able to sit back and.
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: Just but like, why would you want to, like you
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: if you guys ever in your life to sat back
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: and be.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Like, yes, is that ever happy? Why are you looking
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: at it at anything?
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: You know, like I you know, like yeah, I mean
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: like if you like, if your son plays little league
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: and they win the championship, you're gonna enjoy the heck
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: out of it, right, and then next day you're gonna go.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: To basketball practice like you know, or.
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: School is a week. You know, it's just you're gonna love.
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: You're gonna be proud of that that happened. But like
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: you're not gonna go to the beach and just be like,
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: you know, I'm just gonna sit here and do nothing.
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: I think that's an interesting No. I think I think
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: we can both relate to that as parents of kids.
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: All both our kids played collegiate football, and I think
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: you probably are more proud of what Jack's doing sometimes, right.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally totally. Like then with then what you do
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know why Peers is looking at me when
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: he said something like, Dave Piers here, I haven't accomplished
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: anything in my career.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: So I'm just in here. Michae'donald with us right now. Yeah, Yeah,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I'm curious.
• 18:34
  Speaker 10: You know, if you look at the history of schemes
• 18:36
  Speaker 10: in football through like decades and decades, there was a
• 18:39
  Speaker 10: time when the veer nobody can stop the veer or
• 18:42
  Speaker 10: the affirmation. Uh, the eighty five Bears were so damn unique.
• 18:46
  Speaker 10: And one thing about that everybody, every single scheme on
• 18:51
  Speaker 10: either side of the ball eventually got you know, solved
• 18:54
  Speaker 10: to some degree. How much of what you're doing where
• 18:59
  Speaker 10: I mean you to come in and in offensive coordinating
• 19:02
  Speaker 10: for the Patriots who won six Super Bowls and and
• 19:05
  Speaker 10: you made them look really confused? How much of your
• 19:10
  Speaker 10: scheming do you think, Hey, we've got to keep evolving, yeah,
• 19:15
  Speaker 10: because otherwise people are gonna figure us out.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: The first thing that I've that I've learned, and this
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: is coming from like football dork, that made made my
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: bones on a computer watching tape, like what's what's gonna
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: give us a chance to win games. Is our style
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: how we play the game. When we say twelve is one,
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: it's like we want to create the feeling that you're
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: playing more than eleven guys.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: So that that's that's.
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: The chemistry, that's the connection, that's the toughness, that's the
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: that's the shape that you're in. You know, that's the
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: clarity what you have to play with. So that's kind
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: of like the non negotiable. But to your point with
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: the scheme, you have to evolve. You have to evolve
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: and the things you know you're gonna evolve from year
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: to year. In the off season when you have those
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: opportunities to kind of study and see where the game's going,
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: where you need to go, maybe maybe include some of
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: the problems they're gonna be able to solve that's coming forward. Like,
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: so that that's part of it. During the season, like
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: the seasons evolve, you know, And I think we've gotten
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: into an interesting spot with our division. It's like we
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: all kind of know each other so well that the
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: game plans evolve within the game, you know, right, Like
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: you know that they they'll do things that you write,
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: oh shoot, they're doing that because they realize that we
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: do this, Okay, so now we have to So there's
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: like these they do these little marginal like incremental evolutions
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: that happen in like shorter timeframes too. So but it's
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: kind of like kind of the question like do you
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: sit back and relax, Like no, just we just want
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: to I love.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Like, what's the next? What do we do? What do
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: we need to do next?
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: Teams are going to find something to do against us,
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: and or we might be missing a piece or two
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: pieces or something. You know, the roster's gonna change. And
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: so I think that's just how you have to think
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: about it every day. You know, you just have to
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: try to keep finding new solutions and ways to attack
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: and figure out what teams are gonna try to do
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: it against you.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: The process then sounds like it's the it's you enjoy
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: the process. You It's not like we have like a
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: checklist on the wall, so all right, this is the process.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: What do we you know? But it's just it's a mentality.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I think about how we do.
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: Business and how we go about you know, our just
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: kind of way life every day.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was thinking about doing this today, the
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: last time we spoke was one on one was the
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: day you were hired in the side room over there and.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: It was I mean, will win for you?
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: And things going on, And I remember we talked a
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: little bit about John Snyder that day, and I want
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: to go back to that because here's a GM that
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I mean to me in my mind. I don't know
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: you might would agree. He's got to be the best
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: GM in the football right now. He's got two super
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Bowl championships with two separate quarterbacks and two separate rosters
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: and two separate head coaches. What he's done is remarkable
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: in this game. So we all know that. But for
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: you as a head coach when you came here, you
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: had to buy into John Schneider but also have that rapport.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: When did you feel that and what is it about
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: him that makes him special and kind of separates him.
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: Oh that's a great question. Thanks for setting that up.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: He I think that I don't know if it was
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: a buy in. I think it was an alignment from
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: the get go. And we have two different styles about
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: how we kind of do we do, but like I
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: think we share a vision about like what is really.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Important to us.
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: But in terms of like the atmosphere we're trying to
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: create in the building what you know, like Seahawks culture,
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: what that means, you know, and we're building off of
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: what they've built, you know, through you know, Pete and
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: Coach Holmgan's years and all that.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: So I don't there wasn't necessarily bite.
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: Now there's some things that like mechanisms that he did
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: that I wasn't used to, And for me, it's like, yeah,
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: of course I want to trust John Schneider, like you know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: he wants this is the way he does. Okay, it
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: sounds great, like we're gonna give this a shot.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: So if I came in guns blazing and I'd just
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: be absolutely foolish. But when I when I think of
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: our relationship, I think there's so many times even now,
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: but especially in our first first year or two, like
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: where it was so foggy for me and it was
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: just not clear or we were going through something and
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: he could have easily just came in hot, you know,
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: with with the answer or you know, you know, put
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: his thumb on the scale. But he he created this
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: environment with me where he let me he just he
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: kind of figured it out to where I could I
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: could come to the conclusion through his like guidance and
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: his help if that makes sense. Yeah, and he's just
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: got so he says he kind of thinks like three
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: dimensionally like that, which is really cool, but but takes
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: the edge off, you know, in all of his interactions.
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: So it's a it's a special combination. And uh he's
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: a sharp cookie, man. I'll tell you what he's.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: He's he's really.
• 23:25
  Speaker 10: Impressive, as are you, Mike McDonald with this uhh. When
• 23:29
  Speaker 10: people ask me about Brian Florey and and what to expect,
• 23:33
  Speaker 10: I say, I don't know. I haven't seen set up
• 23:35
  Speaker 10: a game and call a game right and and and
• 23:37
  Speaker 10: it neither have you?
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: But what I say is that my best thing that
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: I like about Brian Floyd is Mike McDonald hired him.
• 23:46
  Speaker 10: You're you're gonna be tough on offensive coordinators.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: You have been.
• 23:50
  Speaker 10: What was it that you needed to see and hear
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: from Brian Floy when you talk to him that that
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: made you satisfy? This is he's he's a never time
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: play caller, but he's my guy.
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: I don't know if I want to be known as
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: hard on our office, the coordinated its good working together,
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: you know, I just I really appreciated how he saw
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: the game and like what was important to him on
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: on how to build an offense offense. Well, you know,
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: it's easy to get in an interview and say, hey,
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: we're gonna run this game and we're gonna be this
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: and we're gonna have all the things, but to him,
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: it was it was about how we play the game.
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: And there was so much parallel to how we want
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: our football team to play, you know, and how we
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: built our offense last year and how that coincides how
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: we play special teams and defense. And I think him
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: having been on the other side of the ball and
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: on special teams, so his career is you know, gives
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: him this three sixty perspective of the game, which is
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: really cool. And he sees how it's all connected. You know,
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: you could tell he's incredibly sharp. He was a great communicator.
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: There's no bs, you know, there's no fluff, which is
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: which I always appreciate. And uh, and he can coach
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: the heck out of a football team, you know, and
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: so being able to have like he can see the
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: quarterback through the lens that the quarterback needs to be coached,
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: but he can also connect that to the timing of
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: routes and how we play combinations up front and how
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: we get in how we operate, and and he's opening
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: new ideas too.
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: You know.
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: It's not like just like, hey, this is this is
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: a non negotiables you know, from A to Z. It's
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: he's always he's trying to look to get better. And
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: it's not like I'm like critiquing. I'm like, we're working together,
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: you know, where I'm asking him question but what he's
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: thinking he's asking me.
• 25:33
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: It's just it's just kind of a like a tag team,
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: you know, which is a lot of fun.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: You mentioned the details with him the other day.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's I thought that was an interesting comment.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: You said that you're learning from him every day. Oh yeah,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: and it's details and even little things like how you
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: carry the ball. I mean, we do a segment every
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Monday called Hardcore Football and you will break down as
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: hardcore as it can from an x NFL quarterback for
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: us dummies out here. But he talked, We've talked about
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: it like, hey, he's carrying his ball, like little things
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: like that?
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Is that what it is?
• 26:01
  Speaker 12: Like?
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: The things that jumped out of you.
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah, like you know in the spring now like now,
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: I was just doing an interview earlier. But like training,
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: if you if you look at training camp through like okay,
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: it's this long period of time. But if we could
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: so somehow we could stack all these meaningful reps like
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: that's when you create something cool. That's when you that's
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: when you're building your team. But if you're just doing
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: the motions, like you know, you're getting a brick here,
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: brick here, it's not like cohesive, you know. And so
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: like the way that the off season is now is
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: there's so many rules on what you can and can't do.
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: And so he was able to put it through the
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: lens of okay, even though we're doing like routes on
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: air in May, like this is how we're simulating what
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: happens in games, and this is how it applies. So
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: it's like little things like that that I've never seen
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: offensive football. Like coach like that, you know, to that
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: level of detail that far out with a big perspective
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: and getting the guys to buy in. And if you're
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: creating those habits that now shows up when we're in
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: pads and you know, I'll play with the coop today.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I mean Coop's a master of this stuff.
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: But like he catches the ball, dropstep, you know, makes
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: a guy like he's in the open field, slashes off
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: the guy.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: You know, it's probably a touchdown, you know, And.
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: I think we've maximized, you know, that opportunity for that
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: type of stuff to happen because because of how we
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: coached that type of stuff throughout, you know, since we
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: got here in April.
• 27:19
  Speaker 10: Mike McDonald with this huge kind of partially joked, I
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: assume the few days before the Super Bowl that Nick's
• 27:26
  Speaker 10: injury was keeping you up, waking you up.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I wasn't joking.
• 27:31
  Speaker 10: You weren't joking, Okay, he was, Okay, not partially joking.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: All serious.
• 27:35
  Speaker 10: Okay, So what is it today that might wake you
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: up concerned about your football? Give us something first of
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: all that you say, you know what, I sleep really
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: well because of this what might yeah, go go ahead, please.
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: I had a night while I said, it's his dream,
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: but it was really a nightmare that Eric Kennedy retired
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: last day.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: Okay, he was gonna hand out the equipment.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, he's just like he's such like a
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: just a just like an act.
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: He's like he's an absolute institution here and just like
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: a just a founding, massive member of our operation.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: And so I got it.
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: I literally when I got in this morning after I worked,
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: I went in and I was like, you're not retiring?
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: Are you?
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Like you're still here? He's like, no, I'm here. I
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: was like, all right, thank god. Probably the answer.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: Honestly, but honestly, like like a foot off the gas,
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: not abiding by like an honest process, just going through
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: the motions, you know, getting getting just complacency, you know
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: that that type of stuff.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Is you seen any of that?
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: No, But I still I still think about it, trying
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: I'm trying to say I'm not I'm trying to not
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: say the word worry, okay, trying to focus on I'm
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: getting coaches, I'm getting coached.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: I thought it was funny, like I'll just say this.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed the interaction between you and our good friend
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell the other day when he's pressing Uneven worried
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: you were not going to give us an answer. You
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: were not going to give us answer. I'm sure you
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: won't know.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I appreciate Greg gas and he tried it was a
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: was a hell of an effort.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Uh, But you brought up in that same conversation as
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Zach Charbone for a second, and outside of the football player,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: you talked about his spirit around the team, and here's
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: a guy coming off about acl we see him walking
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: around and and the running back position.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Probably you're not worried about it. You're not gonna use
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: that term, but I know you like to get him back.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: But what is it about his spirit? Maybe taking a
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: bigger picture, because I heard the word connected a lot
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: with his team and how connected and tight they were.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Guys from different backgrounds, different races, different rounds they were drafted,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: all connected together, and it sounds like Sharbon is a.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Guy that kind of helps with that a little bit definitely.
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: You know he uh, he was putting he's been in
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: some tough spots since we got here, and it's like
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: the leadership behind behind the scenes, I think is the
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: first thing. Like in tough times, he goes to the
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: he goes to his teammates. You know, it's like, it's
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: not Zach, it's my guys, you know, And it's not
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: I don't know that because of like he tells me,
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: it's because you can see it, you know, And that's
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: that's how he operates, and so if I could see it,
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: the players definitely feel that every day when he's when
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: he was healthy, just like the daily work ethic of
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: all the things. It's just like clockwork, you know. And
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: then to hear how he's gone about his process to
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: come back from this injury. It's not an easy agent
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: and easy injury to come back from, you know. But
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: you hear about the reports and you hear and you
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: see the progress and where he is now. I mean,
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: you just you just want the best for the guy,
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: you know. You just like he just he deserves the
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: best because of because of.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: What he's done. I bring him up for this reason.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: It because every football team you kind of look from
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: the outside, like all of this look from the outside
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: and you see, like who are the leaders? The quarterback
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: is normally gonna be a leader for you. Ernest Jones
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: comes across as being Julian love guys like that. But
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: to have this team reach the levels it needs, you're
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: gonna have guys that maybe like a fan might be listening,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: maybe we're thinking, why I didn't know Zach Charbonnay was
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: that guy? Like, yeah, the blue guys that connected guys.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: How many of those guys like, is character a big
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: thing that you got look forward to in the draft
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: and everything else Andre agency, and like, what what does
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: that mean to what you're doing?
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we used to, like I used to
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: germinally want Seahawks, you know, then they come. You know,
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: you could have a Devi Witherspoon who's super outgoing and
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: competitive and you know he's got his style style away,
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: but he's he's just as much of a Seahawks as
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: Zach Sharbonnay, as Charles Cross a j B. You just
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: you go right down the line with his team, and
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: you know it's hard to find a guy that creates
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: any drag or you're not excited about seeing it, you know.
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: And so I'm sure the players feel the same way.
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: Which is just so much such a fun team to coach.
• 31:35
  Speaker 10: As we let you go, give us just one story.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Fans love to hear stories.
• 31:39
  Speaker 10: There must there must have been something that was cool
• 31:42
  Speaker 10: or interesting or note worthy about Super Bowl winning head
• 31:46
  Speaker 10: coach Mike McDonald. Maybe it's as Starbucks or something something
• 31:50
  Speaker 10: somebody looked at you different than they did before.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: What what what? What?
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: In the experience I was invited to play in the
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: American century Championship in Tahoe, and so that was that
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: was a great that was a great honor, and it's
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: a great They do a phenomenal job and you're meeting
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: people that as you're like, I literally looked at like
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: one hundred people that time.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: My life is so dumb right now, and I get
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: to do this.
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: So I get but so but the one thing that
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: everyone told is like, look, the first t you're gonna
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: be you know, your nerves are gonna be wrong, so
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: you know, get ready for that. So I'm okay, you know,
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: I'm thinking about it anyway. So I get to the
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: first tea, they you know, they instead of introducing me
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: is you know whatever, the accolades. I was the two
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: thousand and five physics student of the year since high
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: school and that's who they but uh, that's how they
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: introduced me.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: So I get. I get over the ball and I've
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: played I played a lot of golf this.
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: Summer, and I just remember thinking like, I don't know
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: how I'm gonna make contact with you. Just don't top
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: it and don't And there's like a couple hundred people
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: there and I get to the back of my swing
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: and I just ad my body just like unravels, and
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: I topped the ball into the hazard no. Twenty yards
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: in front of all and it was just like, well
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: can I get any worse than this?
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Boys like it's a good time swing you play. It's
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: a holly too.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: And then I saw the swing and I'm like this,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: are you single digit where I am?
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I'm back out. So topping the ball is
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: not in your repertoire ever, well apparently it.
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: Is so, but that was that was a great experience.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: We had a lot of fun. But that'll bring it
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: back down.
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: You have a new appreciation for kickers right right and
• 33:20
  Speaker 10: that game winning.
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean and all honestly, like it is a
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: great test of like process and thinking about like what
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: you need to do, not worry about all whatever is doing.
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: So it'll be a story for a team meeting some point.
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: I got one more was wrap things up and you've
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: dressed it a couple of times. But it's wild to
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: see the hard knocks thing out here. And it's different too.
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: I'm a TV nerd, that's kind of where I started
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: the business, and so I like, I'm watching these guys
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: and trying to figure out what they're doing.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: They blend in. Great job by the Seahawks, Brian O'Connell,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: like they blend in. They're wearn't kind of the same
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: colors as your coaches and stuff, so you don't.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Only see them.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: But for you guys as a team, you said, embrace it.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I think everyone's embraced it here. What is it like
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: having those guys around?
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: It's been seamless. Yeah, Like the first the first day,
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: you know, there's there's yeah, there's where they are. There's
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: the first day it's like, Okay, that's someone I'm not
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: used to someone being right there. Now there's somebody there.
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: I'm not used being miked up. Now I miked up.
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: But it's just kind of like anything, it's just adapt
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: and and just go about your business. I mean, there's
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: so many other things you need to be focused on,
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: you know, and I need to practice what I'm preaching too,
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: Like we had to just be us right, you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: so if we're kind of out of pocket and we're
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: kind of out of whack, then then uh, it's really.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: No good for you.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Do you think fans will be surprised by what they say?
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, right, I think it's the first episode Tuesday,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: the fourth. Do you think fans will be surprid? What
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: do you think is gonna come out? Like anything in
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: your back of mind is saying some people be surprised.
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: Sometimes I'm like, how do people do people think that
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: we actually like can get a first down out here,
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: because it's like sometimes it's kind of mayhem, So, uh,
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: it'll be maybe I don't know, we'll see how.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Crazy it seems in there.
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: But yeah, sometimes you're like, yeah, we're kind of we're
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: kind of crazy, but I love it.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, thank you you.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, good appreciated coach down hammered down.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: That was Mike McDonald from yesterday. Fun stuff with you
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: and Mike McDonald. I will break up. I want to
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: just one thing. I want to touch it on that
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: he said it right at the end, which is relevant
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: to where we just talked about with George wanting will
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: do that next.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Now back to Ian Forness at the Virginia Mason Athletics
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Center and our special coverage of Seahawks training camp, brought
• 35:17
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• 35:22
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• 35:24
  Speaker 2: All right, back in the Virginia Mason Athletic Center, Seeyawk
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: training camp. Fans are back here today. They weren't here yesterday,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: but the fans are back today, so it's a much
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: more lively atmosphere. It's interesting yesterday that they I hadn't
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: really noticed this before with I think we didn't have
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: fans here on Monday last week or something, but they
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: there was a time really yesterday for the most part,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: was quiet, Like the music wasn't blaring, you know, when
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: when Pete was here this I guess that would be
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: the one difference, Like Mike McDonald still has music going
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: on during practice and fans are here. When the fans
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: aren't here, uh, it's there's really no music. It's just
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: kind of subdued and guys are getting after business wise.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: He said something there at the end that caught my
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: attention when he said it yesterday, I was like, yeah,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I noticed that because he gets they get a little uh,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: they get a little red ass sometimes with uh with
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: you know, the offense isn't able to do much and
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: he'll have guys do it over and over again against this.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Well let me check notes here. Yeah, best defense in
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: the NFL last year.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: Regardless of what Madden says, What did Madden say about
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: the defense, tenth best defense in the NFL.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, what yes, So does that mean we don't like
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: the js N grade then either? I can't tell because
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Sam was the highest graded guy.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: Right, yeah he was. But alsoous that's ridiculous, ridiculous.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's ridiculous.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, tenth best defense and they only have one player
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: in the top ten in their respective positions on the
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: defensive side of the ball, and it's Devin Witherspoon is
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: the sixth best corner.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Well soon he'll be number one. Yeah, it word matters, Yeah, exactly.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Bank Yeah, but you know, Mike donald was talking about that,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: George Laani was talking kind of said something similar like details,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: we got to do everything against his defense every day
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: and he makes us do things over and over again
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: because we're not getting it right. And McNeill just kind
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: of mentioned that as well, I mean the defensive coach.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: So that happens, right, I mean, it's I you get that.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: It's he's a as a defensive coach. That's where the
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: emphasis is. But McDonald's involved at times with the offense
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: when you know, during the eleven on eleven's but the
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: little details of the Brian Flurry offense and then the
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: details that are involved with Mike McDonald, that's a challenge
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: for this offense every day.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: And you know in the old the Seahawks.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Previous Super Bowl champions, so the same thing like, you're
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: going against the best I don't care what mad sense,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: you going against the best defense in the NFL. And
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: you're doing that. Iron does sharp and iron you're gonna
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: get better. You're seeing every look imaginable and all those things.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah, this kind of thing was funny that that
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: kind of Hawani was saying the same thing that McDonald
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: said yesterday, and you and I about the details and
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: and how and yeah, McDonald like can we not get
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: a first down? We do hear him say that often,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: And there was some like with no fans here yesterday
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: you could hear the coaches a little bit more. Who babe,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: there is there is zero complacency out here, like zero.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: It's and I've I've we've talked about this often. You know,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: tomorrow's the what do they call it Back Together weekend
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: for the NFL network or ESPN.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: I guess it is. I don't even know what it's
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: on ESPN or the NFL.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Now, I think I still can't get the NFL Network
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: actually because they're still a battle of concast. Hopefully it's
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: still on the ESPN. I bring that up for this reason.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: They they they're at all thirty two camps this weekend,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: so we'll see what focus. Like last year, really the
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: last two or three years, the they've sent like reporters
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: out here you've never heard of, right, like huh, who's this?
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: And like very little seahawk in the you know, in
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: the NFL network, ESPN back together, there's been very little.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Do they get more attention this year as the defending
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions or is it still gonna all be
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: about their first preseason game opponent? That would be the
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys New York Giants with a new head coach.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see you tomorrow, but I bring all
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: those things up. It's just a very unassuming, very unassuming
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: team in that regard, and I love it trickles down
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: from the coach. I mean, we tried to get it
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: out of him. Did you enjoy the Super Bowl? Like
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: you listen to him and it's like, yeah, I guess,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: but I'm just worried about the next one, Like damn dude. Yeah,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Like like every player we've talked to is talked about, Man,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: that moment of getting the ring or sitting back going wow,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I'm a Super Bowl champion. George Lane talking about this
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: first hour, Hey, how cool is this? You know, like
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I'm playing in the Super Bowl, Like he admitted, it
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: wasn't a normal game. McDonald's just like, yeah, man, let's
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: go business as usual.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: Well, and like he even took it a step further
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: and was like does anyone do that? He was all like,
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: does anyone ever look back on their life and just say, hey,
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: that was cool? I just was like, yeah, a lot
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: of people do you.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Do a lot of people do peer. Dave Pearson, their
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: VP of communications, was pointing to me. I don't know
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: what he was pointing to me for.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I've accomplished a jack in my life. But whatever, all right,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: we'll take a break, we'll come back. We got to
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: talk about the local baseball team. Well, they got to
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: do that. Even though we're Seahawk can U. They're getting
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: ready to get out in the field in the second.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: We'll do that. Next ninety three point three KJRFM.
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  Speaker 2: Shoes Chill Ms losing the final game of their seven
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: game road trip to the Dodgers six to two last night,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: two and five trip series with the Twins begins tonight
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: back at home.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: More on that in a moment.
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  Speaker 2: NFL has our CBS Sports as placed NFL analyst twenty
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• 40:32
  Speaker 2: on suspicion of driving under the influence. You could suspicious
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: all you want. He was doing it like HA had
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: the open container to prove it. Maybe Storm. They take
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: on the Atlanta Dream tonight four point thirty. There are
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: six and twenty four on the season. They'll be six
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: and twenty five after today. But at least when they're
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: on the road they can't offend anybody. At least they'll
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: wann her camp. She's gone for a while. A let's
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• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Here we go live from the Bridge you Mason Athletics Center.
• 41:01
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• 41:24
  Speaker 2: All right, we are back at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: the home of the Seattle Seahawks, defending Super Bowl champion
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks. I'm sitting here at the let's see, I
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: guess we'll be the northeast corner of the practice fields,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: right next to the burm players starting to make their
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: way out out of the field right now, back in
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: paths today. The practice will get started here in about
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: ten or fifteen minutes time, and and away we go.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: You hear from Mike McDonald earlier. If you've missed that
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: a couple times, we've had him. Now, we had him
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: on live yesterday. We played it a minute ago. Make
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: sure you go to the podcast page check it out,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: take a listen. He was really fun to talk to
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: with Hugh Millan and myself the head coach, the head
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: coach defense Super Bowl champion head coach as well, who
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: is still trying to find a way to enjoy being
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl champion as he moves on to this
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: particular season coming up, the baseball team is starting a
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: homestand tonight seven game road trip capped off by losing
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: two of three to Mike Benton's Dodgers.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Anders.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: We blame Betton for that. We really we blame Betton
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: for that. All the captain's faults. I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: throw something at you and you tell me if if
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: maybe I've gone too far the other way. Some would
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: say in the past, I've been a little negative with
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: the baseball team. Some would say a little pessimistic, a
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: little hyper critical of the baseball team.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, you employ the Molly Whoppers, but yes.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Let me think defense to having the No No but
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I gladly accept and love having them on every week.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Those those guys are something. Okay, So.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: The two and five road trip, I would make the argument,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: it's probably only if you're looking at seven games starting
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: last week. I'm gonna say that the two and five
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: is probably, honestly make an argument it's really only one
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: less than you thought it could be.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: I thought going in three and four was likely. I
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: thought it was probable, and I thought it was almost acceptable.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: And here's why you're gonna lose a series of the Dodgers.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: You just are.
• 43:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Right, So that's not a surprise you didn't get swept.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: That's a big bonus, Like, if you're being honest, that's
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: a bonus. The other half of it, Anders is I
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: think they're only one game behind where they probably thought
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: they would be. I think a split in Texas would
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: have been fine. Yeah, And I think there was almost
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: something you're thinking about now. They obviously lose three to four,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: that's only one game difference. They're two and a half
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: out of the division lead. They are they have slipped
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: in the wildcard spot. They're three games out of a
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: wildcard spot.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: It's division of us at this point for me.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Houston, I'm not really you know what, I'm not
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: really ready to say that yet. I think, I mean,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: three games isn't a ton.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: Now, But how many teams are between you and that, well,
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: That's the thing.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I think there was two, and I think one of
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: them's names Houston. Right, I'm a double check. I got
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: it right here in front of me. It would be
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: edited well, Minnesota, Houston, Baltimore, all head of you yea
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: before they it's the last spot.
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: But you're so then you have four So Cleveland, Minnesota, Houston, Baltimore.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Correct, yeah, so it's four, but they're all within three games,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: yes of each other. Yes, like everyone the Seattle's three
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: games out, Baltimore's two and a half. They may be
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: sellers at the deadline. Houston's only one game. Why are
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: they still here? Why are they still here? They're like
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: the house guests that would never leave, Like, why are
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: you still here?
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's true.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Minnesota is the interesting one. They just picked up a
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: reliever yesterday added to their lineup. Bucks is not going
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: to play in this series. So I mean, you know
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: what you've got, folks. You got a pretty good, little
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: important series this weekend with Minnesota of all things. And
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: the oh, by the way, Detroit, which is only a
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: game and a half behind you, is here next week.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Now, by the time Detroit gets here.
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: They'll have traded Schooble.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: They may have traded schoobl See, that's the thing.
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: All the teams around the Mariners record are selling. Why
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: aren't the Mariners doing that?
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: So let me go back to what I said last
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: week wasn't as bad and diary as you thought. It
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: was your one game back of where you probably should
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: have been, could have been hoped to be. I mean,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: obviously you would like to win a series, but that's
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: where you are right now. Okay, So now you get home.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, their home road splits are just crazy,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: like what Seattle has done this Yeah, like in in
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: terms of what they're doing home versus what they're doing away.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're twenty three and thirty four away from home.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: That's just and why is that? Well, Roade Brian Wu,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: that's one of the reasons.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: And they're thirty and twenty three at home.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: When they're thirty and twenty three at home. The Brian
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Wu thing yesterday, I wanted to believe in it. We
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: talked about it with Eno. I told you know, I
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: go no, man. I think I bet he bounces back.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: We said that on the air. I think you and
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I both agreed about that last night. He's gonna hate
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: it's a road game.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: They know more than we do. He's gonna be fine.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Bryce Miller, I don't. The weird thing is, is Bryce
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Miller need one more day?
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Really? Is that going to make a difference for the
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: guy with the sore arm.
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: Well, now you only guarantee one start at home for
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: Brian Woo in a nine game homestand because you moved
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: him up with.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: All Anders, I didn't realize that.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, wow, yes, where at home the guy is nearly unbeatable. Yes,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: so you waste him in a road.
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: Game because he needs the best one more day for
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: Bryce Miller. And here's what I'll push back on your
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: notion that it wasn't as bad. Push back fire because
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: it's not. First of all, yes, maybe if you're looking
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: at specifically that road trip, then yeah, okay, maybe it's
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: one game worse than you thought of, right, which is
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: not the end of the world. But it's been an
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: entire season of that.
• 47:16
  Speaker 11: Ian.
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: It's not like you had three or four good home
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: stands and road trips in a row and then you
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: had one like a bad one. But you can you
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: can deal with that. We're past the point of doing that.
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: And the other thing is, it's not the games themselves,
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: it's how it's happening, right, And I'd even argue without
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: Dom can zone you go Owen seven. He saves your
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: butt in Texas with the three run homer to come back.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: There's no listen all this interjectory. There's no argument needed there. Yes,
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: you're right, you are the dom canzone factor.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: Yes right, because yeah, you're you're two dom Can zone
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: heroically saving games away from going Owen seven on this road.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: You were asking though, about everyone selling around you are Yeah,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: they're not going to I know they're you know what,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: and probably because of what you just said. It also
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: helps the process. Everyone else is selling around you. Why
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: would you sell like you're You're gonna be in a
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: better situation come Monday at three pm, even if you
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: know what, more than likely, even if you don't make
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: a move, you're probably gonna be in a better situation
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: on Monday.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but three pm.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: I just don't think this team's good. I realize everyone
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: wants to think they are. But at some point, this
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: point in the season, we're fifty three and fifty seven. Math,
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: what is that one hundred and ten games in the season.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: This is who they are.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: This is that we're not waiting for them to explode,
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: waiting for them to go on a run anymore. This
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: is who they are at.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: The two games left right, fifty two games left too
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: in the season.
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Keep holding out hope. And maybe this is just false hope.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's false hope, but I keep holding out hope.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: It's like, man, these guys get to the they get
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: the playoffs, they're gonna be fine. Because my thought would be,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: if they get to the playoffs, at some point they
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: picked up a little bit of a heater along the way,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: like they found themselves along the way. You know what
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, all of a sudden, Cal doesn't look
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: like the most lost soul in the history of baseball
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: at the plate.
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what tells you that's gonna happen?
• 49:14
  Speaker 9: Though?
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Nothing?
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Absolutely nothing? A hope and a prayer, Yes, what tells
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: me that? A hope and a prayer?
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, they just look dead out there, They look lifeless.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: They keep looking for it, like is there a catalyst?
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Right, I'll give you an example when they kind of
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: erupted the other night in LA and you saw life
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: on the bench and a life in the dugout and
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: life when guys are crossing at home point. You saw
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: the life come to you saw it, right, and then
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: it just disappeared the next two nights.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: So what gives you hope?
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: What makes you think that that could happen all the above,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: like maybe they can get go. I mean, is cal
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: really going to be this bad all year again?
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: What's gonna take tell you that he's not at this point?
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: Like like I'm dead seriously, is he gonna be bad
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: this all year?
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: Like?
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: God?
• 50:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: If if he remains Here's the thing, I don't even
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: know what the math is anders. Yeah, is it even
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: possible for him to finish the year hitting above two hundred?
• 50:17
  Speaker 8: Uh?
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: It would be pretty hard to do that, Like he'd
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: have to go on in a massive heater, right, Yeah, man,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Just everything about this year has just
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: been odd to me. It's just been odd, and I
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: keep I keep having this hope in the back of
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: my mind.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: That's why I'm trying to spin it positive. What happened
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: last week? Sure, again, if.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: You didn't lose the you know, it would have been
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: nice to win a series against the fighting Bentons, you know,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: the fighting chevaz Ravine, but that didn't happen.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question, Ian, Yeah, would you
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: feel better if this team's stars were playing well but
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: you had glaring holes on your team? Or would you
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: feel better that the kind of the fringes of the
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: roster are actually doing their job the dom can zones
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: of the world, but the stars aren't doing their job.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: What would you feel better about?
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Listen, I think you can make an argument both ways.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: And here's why. I think your first scenario. Stars are great,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: have holes to fill, go out and fill those holes.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, So like you can make the quick fix, which
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: is what what you're talking about. Was last year's team.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Exactly what you're talking about is this year's team as well.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: I see what you're doing, well done. Yes, this year's
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: team stars aren't playing well. So what if the Stars
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: start to pick it up?
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: I mean now, I just got to Now I want
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: to punch myself in the face because that's something that
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Jerry to Potao would say.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: Ye's exactly, God.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: What has happened to me?
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: All of our improvements will become internal.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Well does that include Michael Royal?
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: I guess yes. Maybe we'll see him soon, maybe we'll
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: see him tonight.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: We make an argument that Wilson's been better than some
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: of their regular guys lately, so I don't know, dropping
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: him down. And then obviously, I mean I'm not holding
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: my rethline it I'm Brendan Donovan do it, Mike. I've
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: got a lot more faith that cal Rawley's gonna get
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: on a heater at some point than I do that
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Brendan Donovan is gonna do anything or stay healthy the
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: rest of the year.
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: If he comes back.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I got a lot more confidence in that,
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Danny O'Neal doesn't like the mediocrity either of the Mariners.
• 52:14
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• 52:21
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• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Danny O'Neil, Danga Postuko joins us from New York City. Danny,
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna make you you feel like a
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: little nostalgic, feel like you're you know, back at home here.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Hang on a second, I'm gonna frank this up.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: Can you hear that? Listen?
• 53:01
  Speaker 11: I can't?
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, there it is.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: The sounds of training camp, my friends. So sounds of
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: training camp on the shores of Lake Washington.
• 53:11
  Speaker 11: There was a time when there was no music being
• 53:13
  Speaker 11: played during practice.
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: There was a time.
• 53:17
  Speaker 11: There was a time when when the younger of Jim
• 53:20
  Speaker 11: Mora was was running them through to two hours and
• 53:23
  Speaker 11: fifteen minute practices every day during training camp.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Now it is fully padded, I should point out, fully
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: padded those those practices with with Jim Mora junior, Yes, yes,
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: or Jim Moore of the second whatever the hell he's called.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, well, first of all, the no music. Uh,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: let's talk about that for a second. That would have
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: been my good friend and yours, Michael Holmgren. Uh that
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: was I remember the first year we're out here, Hongry
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: comes rolling in and Pete's playing music. I thought Mike
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: was going to have an aneurysm. Man, He's just like
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: losing his mine, like what are we? What is going on?
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: And we know it worked. It worked for Pete.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you this though, Danny yesterday, and I don't
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: know if I noticed this last year, I maybe I
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: did it.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: I just wasn't paying attention.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: So yesterday first fully padded practice and there and the
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: fans weren't here. It was one of the days they
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: don't have fans out here. No music yesterday, no music
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: when the fans weren't here. And for Mike McDonald, it
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: was business. It was football pads popping, guys getting in skirmishes,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: coaches using words that you can't usually. You know, I'm
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: assuming it'll be fine on hard knocks, but yeah, it
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: was a little different atmosphere yesterday with first day in
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: pads and no and no music playing and a way
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: they went, no fans. But today the fans are back.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: They're back in the pads. And I did laugh when
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: you said more because let's see, this would have been practice.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Let's see Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. So this is practice
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: number six.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: I get for them.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Jim Moore, Jim Mora that first year when he was
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: the head coach, they were in pad's day one, which
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: is not allowed anymore by the CBA, by that agreement.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: But you remember the first day they were in paths
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: with Jim Moore out here.
• 55:05
  Speaker 11: God yeah, it was. It was an intense training camp
• 55:09
  Speaker 11: they had. And I've always used that in when people
• 55:13
  Speaker 11: talk about, oh, you just really need a hard ass,
• 55:15
  Speaker 11: you really need someone comes in and sort of coaches
• 55:19
  Speaker 11: by fear, and look, there are some guys that have
• 55:22
  Speaker 11: been able to do that and win. I do think
• 55:25
  Speaker 11: it's I do think it's harder to do that now.
• 55:27
  Speaker 11: But the other thing is that, man, if things go
• 55:30
  Speaker 11: sideways and you're kind of that hard ass, like, you
• 55:34
  Speaker 11: can lose a team late in the season. And there
• 55:37
  Speaker 11: was a lot going on that year, but man, that
• 55:39
  Speaker 11: December under Mora really speaks to sort of the downside
• 55:43
  Speaker 11: of when you've got a guy that's really a combative
• 55:46
  Speaker 11: and pushing a team that things things can bottom out
• 55:48
  Speaker 11: in terrible ways.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: And he said that year right like almost from the start.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: I remember guys walking off the field that first practice.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Some of the veterans that we knew are like, yeah,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: we're done, Like this is this is this is the
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: dumbest thing ever. I think Craig Terrell picked up his
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: guitar that day and left like I'm done. He said
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: something he fucked up. He said something like that, this guy,
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: this guy just.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: Ended my career. I can't do this.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: This is note like like even even the most diehard
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: maniac you know, youth football coach, they're not in Pad's
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: day one, Like it just doesn't happen. So, yeah, it's
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: a little bit different atmosphere out here right now. I
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: did notice she wrote about a guy that Greg Bell
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: is gonna have on the show on his show on Monday,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Jaln Milroe. Danny O'Neills is fought now that he's no
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: longer in the media. He is falling into the trap
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: that all fans do and then they chirp the media people.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: And this is something when Danny would have been on
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: the radio or writing a newspaper and fall him as
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: a beat would have driven him nuts. Everyone loves the
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: backup quarterback. Everyone loves a third string quarterback, Danny. And
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: look at you, look at look at the evolution of
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: one Dan O'Neill.
• 57:01
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it is. It is one percent. Because the backup
• 57:05
  Speaker 11: quer back is very similar to communism that it works
• 57:10
  Speaker 11: really well in theory, but like the real world, practical
• 57:13
  Speaker 11: applications of this tend to be much much more difficult.
• 57:18
  Speaker 11: And look, I'll say right now, I don't I don't
• 57:21
  Speaker 11: see a path toward Jalen Milroe playing this year like that,
• 57:26
  Speaker 11: unless unless you have an injury in front of him.
• 57:28
  Speaker 11: And I'm not trying to knock Sam Darnolds or anything,
• 57:32
  Speaker 11: but what I am most curious about this month is
• 57:36
  Speaker 11: watching Milrope play. And I guess it would be can
• 57:39
  Speaker 11: he be the backup? Can he be the backup quarterback?
• 57:43
  Speaker 11: And long term I do I do wonder if this
• 57:46
  Speaker 11: guy could be a candidate to play down the road,
• 57:50
  Speaker 11: like if if he's someone who will have a shot
• 57:52
  Speaker 11: to be a quarterback. And he wasn't a project. I mean,
• 57:56
  Speaker 11: he's a third round pick, but he also was not
• 57:58
  Speaker 11: on that He's develop loves to play right away. It's
• 58:01
  Speaker 11: it's just a genuine curiosity. I'm excited to kind of
• 58:04
  Speaker 11: see what he has to do and what opportunities he has.
• 58:09
  Speaker 11: So yeah, I have become Beginnea fan, except in this
• 58:13
  Speaker 11: one regard. I don't have the belief that, oh, maybe
• 58:17
  Speaker 11: he'll play this year. I just think that's that's completely
• 58:20
  Speaker 11: off the table unless we have injuries. But I am
• 58:22
  Speaker 11: really curious to watch him this month.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if he's taking meaningful snaps at quarterback, like meaningful
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: quarterback snaps, then something has gone horribly wrong, like like
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: it's it's and that's nothing against him, it's just the
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: reality is you've got a guy in Sam Donold who's
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: no doubt you're won and and had a hell of
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: a season last year, like a hell of a season
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: last season. And I know, you know, Mike Santo does
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: a quarterback tiers that comes out on Tuesday in The Athletic,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: which I love that column because it's done with actual
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: GMS personnel guys and all that. Mike just kicks ass
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: on that thing. I know that Sam Donald's going up
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: in that for sure, so we'll see where he ends.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: And listen, Drew Locke is a I'm gonna guess there's
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: probably around twenty to twenty five teams that would say
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I would take Drew lock as my backup quarterback right now,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Like he's he's kind of your your perfect backup, massively
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: popular in the locker room, on the field, in the huddle,
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: more than competent. He the guy that like there's no doubt,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: like if if SA you know Arnold goes down, Locks
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: the guy and has won one games and has played
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: well in those the system and all those things. Milroe
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: is the three. We were talking about this the other day.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: He's in year two of a four year rookie contract.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: There is no rush.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: It's like that. It's really a perfect scenario, isn't it. Andy.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: It's not often that you have this where you can say, hey,
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: we're gonna keep this. This guy's on the fifty three man.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Let's see how he progresses, see what he does this season.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: He had his best practice ever as a Seahawks on Tuesday,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: by the way, that was like a consensus, a consensus pick.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: So I want to see what he does in the
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: preseason because he looked better throwing the ball in the
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: preseason all that. Some hate the preseason. I get it,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: but let's the preseason is there for a reason, and
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: it's guy's like Jayl Milroll that is there for.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: I think that. And the question with Sam Darnold, because
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 11: Donald did have a really good year last year, and
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 11: he's had a really good year in the past two
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 11: years his team. He's been a starter that start at
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 11: all seventeen games and two straight years and his team
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 11: has gone fourteen and three. With the Vikings, he did
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 11: not play well in the playoffs and had had a
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 11: bad regular season finale, and last year played great in
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 11: the playoffs. In the NFC Championship game against against the Ramps,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 11: he was awesome. That's as well as he played. He
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 11: didn't have a great super Bowl, but they didn't need
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 11: him to have a great super Bowl. No. I do
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 11: find myself wondering, Okay, what is the feeling for him?
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 11: And I think that this is the level where he's
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 11: going to be. He's someone with a little bit of
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 11: volatility where he will have games where he commits turnovers.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 11: I also think he makes up for it with big plays.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 11: Long term, I wonder if this it, he'll be someone
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 11: who's liking Alex Smith, in which he's a really good,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 11: solid starting quarterback that you feel really good about, but
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 11: you don't necessarily stop looking for. Maybe there's a younger
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 11: developmental player and the presence of him gives you an
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 11: ability to kind of wait and see with the guy.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 11: You don't have to draft a quarterback that you you
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 11: know who he needs to work out for your team succeed.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 11: You can every couple of years draft the guy and
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 11: see what he developed into. And that would be the
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 11: slot that Mill wrote me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 2: Daniel Neil joining US dani A Posterrey buch By Northwest
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  Speaker 2: or Monday. You can only have one of the greats
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  Speaker 2: of all time, Mike Teel or David Green.
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  Speaker 13: I'm taking Keel every time.
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  Speaker 11: I'm taking Peel every time. And that's simply because David Green.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 11: David Green, if you were going to ask me one
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 11: player to epitomize Tim Ruskill's run as GM and this
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 11: is probably like a little bit mean, because he did
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 11: have some good picks. He picked Lofu to Chupu, he
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 11: drafted Leroy Hill. He really put together that defense. The
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 11: two thousand and five team, they wouldn't have They would
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 11: not have gotten to the Super Bowl without Tim Ruskin.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 11: But but David Green, I have never I have never
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 11: seen a quarterback that was because he was a third
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 11: round pick two and I believe when he was drafted
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 11: he was the all time winning at college quarterback. And
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 11: some of that related to schedule and how much he
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 11: played coming out of Georgia but I have never and
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 11: the coaching that did not think all that much of
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 11: him either, And then Russell blamed the Green's lack of
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 11: development on the coaching staff that they weren't invested. And
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 11: then when he got let go, I think he got
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 11: picked up by the Patriots left, but David Green. David
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 11: Green was awful and an exhibit that I often refer
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 11: to of like, look, you draft a quarterback in the
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 11: third round. You see some promise, but there's no guarantee
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 11: that guy ever does or should get on the field.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: I think it's I think it was a wise move
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: because Ruskell. I agree with Russell. It had to be
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: been the staff's fault that that guy didn't develop, because
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: it's not. I mean that staff had no track record
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: of developing quarterbacks Matt Brett Brunell, I mean none whatsoever.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: So yeah, he's probably right, Yes, he's probably right.
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  Speaker 11: This was This was not Do you remember Charlie Frye,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 11: Oh god, he was a quarterback from Creveland, Yeah, ye started.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 11: Charlie fry started, and I think this was two thousand
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 11: and eight. Charlie Fryce started a game in two thousand
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 11: and eight. He was the Week one starter for Cleveland
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 11: and then they cut him the next week. Yes, he
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 11: was also he was also a third round pick the
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 11: Seahawks traded for him, And it wasn't It wasn't Mike,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 11: but it was one of his assistants who later that
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 11: season just said to me, he goes confidentially, he goes.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 11: Whoever drafted this guy in the third round, they should
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 11: take him out to midfield every day and kick him
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 11: in the nine. Wasn't even mad as the player? Whoever
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 11: evaluated this guy? And so poor Charlie Fryce still catching,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 11: still catching strays.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Fifteen years later, Mike Teal was the guy that everyone
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: was fired up for the one year here, Like every
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: fan wanted Mike because he had like one good preseason
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: game and it's like he's got he should be ahead of.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: Might have been Matt then, I think it was. Wasn't
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: it was it Matt the quarterback here?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 11: Yeah, there, I believe Seneca Wallace as well.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, checking notes here, Matt hasselback probe. No, I think
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Mike Heal can sit on the I think that'd be
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: a good idea. But all right, Danielle, you'll join us
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  Speaker 2: Northwaw Sandling Systems Our Baseball team just had a two
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: to five road trip, Danny, and they come home now
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: they take on the Minnesota Twins and we have trade
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: deadline coming up on Monday. Andrews, you were asking me
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: earlier about why I could feel still confident or okay
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: with where the baseball team is. Well, I read the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: dang Apostrophe and in there there was like a graphic
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: and it showed me that the baseball team is relatively
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: the same this year as they've been in the last
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: like ten years. Okay, so I feel better, Danny.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 11: Ah, do you know that was so that was so
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 11: crazy to look up what their record was after one
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 11: hundred and nine games, and it really is they have
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 11: been at the exact same level. They're a little off
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 11: at this year they were fifty three and fifty six,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 11: now fifty three and fifty seven. But watching how consistent
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 11: this team has been, they always get here. Usually they
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 11: are fourteen, but this year, yeah, there are four games
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 11: off pace, but everybody in the division stinks. And you
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 11: realize that this is the level of consistency with this
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 11: team is remarkable, is that they don't seem to be
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 11: getting better. There's a team that plays to get the
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 11: game to the fourth quarter that says, well, anything can
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 11: happen then, which is it's not the worst kind of
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 11: team to root for, but it's also very frustrating. And
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 11: I find myself similar to you, like this team makes
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 11: me want to kick things. Watching them can be a
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 11: singularly dispiriting experience because of they are just out of
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 11: game sometimes, like last night watching the game, there is
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 11: no point in which I felt like, oh, this is
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 11: going to go well, and yet you sit there and
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 11: look at it and I'm like, I still think they're
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 11: going to make the playoffs because that division isn't very good.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 11: But god, it's frustrating.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: The deadline coming up. We were discussing it earlier. We're
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: going to keep discussing it. What should not will they do?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Nobody knows what they're going to do. What should their
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: approach be come Monday over the next week.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 11: Well, their approach should be to go out and make
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 11: a big acquisition, because the two times that we've seen
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 11: them do that in this recent period of time where
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 11: they've been put great. So I would say since that lock,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 11: since the shortened season, since COVID when they came back
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 11: next year, the full season. Each of those years they've
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 11: been in this good not great year. The years that
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 11: they've gone out made a big addition Luis Castillo, and
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 11: then last year with Suarez and Naylor that has kind
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 11: of put them over the top. So that would be
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 11: my answer is go out and be aggressive. And I
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 11: really I'm not going to sit here and whine and
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 11: cry if you give up prospects to be able to
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 11: do that, or you trade a starting pitcher. I do
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 11: want them to do something. The reason that that's so
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 11: hard is that this team has given you no reason
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 11: to think the state that they that you should invest
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 11: in them. There's there's nothing that they've done. You talked
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 11: about years where I really feel like, Okay, they've played
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 11: in a way where they've earned the right to have
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 11: some faith put in them. This team hasn't earned it
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 11: at all. Yet I go back to this, this opportunity
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 11: they have given the division and given the number of
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 11: guys that have underperformed that I think you've still got
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 11: a third of the season and you can pull it out.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 11: But God, it's tough, and it requires a lot of
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 11: faith in a team that has not given you reason
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 11: to have anything.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Andrews, I'll bring in here with Danny for saying so,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: and right now, the Rays and the Yankees, those are
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: the two teams you can get a sharpie out and
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: pen like they're in. Yeah, okay, they're They're in. Raising
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: Raisin and the Yankees. One's gonna be the division winner,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: one's gonna be wild Card one. Boston's getting closer to that.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: They're not quite there yet. Chicago only has a two
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: game lead over Cleveland, and then whatever happens in the
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: Al West, and and damn it, Danny, for some reason,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: clearly the Houston Astros, they're like a mole in your
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: back cockroache keeps. They just keep digging holes in your backyard.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: They keep popping up there they are again, right, So
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: I bring that up for this reason. There's probably two possibilities,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: maybe three, but two for the playoffs for Seattle, more
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: than likely either wild Card three or the division winner.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: But if people are around you are selling, shouldn't the
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: philosophy be, well, good, you guys sell, We're going to
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: go for it.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 13: Yeah?
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  Speaker 11: I think so. I absolutely think that if you've got
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 11: the people around you that are unwilling either selling or
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 11: unwilling to commit to buying, that should help you in
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 11: the buyer's market. Yes, I believe. I think when you've
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 11: gone and made the playoffs two times in the past
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 11: twenty four seasons, and you have a year where the
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 11: playoffs are very much within rey, I think you have
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 11: an obligation to be aggressive in those situations, if only
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 11: for we know that how that this is not guarantee
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 11: You're not always going to be in this quarters.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: Andrews, you agree, Yeah, I mean I don't disagree, because,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: like you said, just logistically, you're looking at the standings
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: and you're looking at you know where they are. It's
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: two and a half out. That's absolutely within reason. But
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: I just I watched this team on a daily basis,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: and I don't think they're a playoff team. This is
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: different this year than it has been in the last
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: few years combined. Even in twenty three and twenty four,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: where yes, they still struggled and missed the playoffs barely,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: there were aspects of their team where I felt like, man,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: if they were just one or two pieces away, and
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: if they were maybe a little more aggressive in the
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: deadline of the offseason, they would have gone over the hump.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: I don't feel like that's the case with this team.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: They're underperforming so heavily that I just in general, my
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: thought is that this isn't a playoff team, but maybe
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: that changes.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just they're a strange team, guys,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: and you know they don't I've never seen it, Danny,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: in this town, Like there's always been a little bit
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: of a little bit of venom directed towards the baseball
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: team because lack of success in they're forty nine.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: No, really, this year just a little okay.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: There's more this year.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: It's weird, like Danny, it's a weird dynamic here this year,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Like people are just genuinely pissed off of this team
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: and they're right there, which I just maybe we expect
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: them to kind of run away with the division. Maybe
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: it's the fact that Anders brought this up earlier. Your
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: best players aren't your best players. Your best players are
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: don Canzone guys like that. Like it's just a weird line.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 11: Do you think it's Do you think it's similar to
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 11: what it was like with the Seahawks, like two thousand
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 11: and four and really into about halfway through the two
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 11: thousand and five season, and they were on such a
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 11: run where they had gotten to the point where they
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 11: were they were back like two thousand to two thousand
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 11: and three. Two thousand and three, that make the playoffs,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 11: they lose to the Packers in that game two thousand
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 11: and four, they start off great, they blow that game
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 11: against the Rams, yeah, and end up barely making the playoffs,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 11: losing the home playoff game, and everybody's like, all right,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 11: we've seen you at this level for too long and
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 11: we're done with it.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: It was it was like, we should move on from Homegrend,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: we should move on from home Gren, right, that was
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: what it was.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 11: We're people, yeah, that two thousand and five season, and
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 11: I think it was accurate of like, we'll see what
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 11: happens this year, but if they don't take a step
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 11: forward this year, you might see a change at head coach.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 11: And then, of course you saw that team was great,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 11: and the reason it was great was because of the
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 11: offense that Holmgren had put together over the previous four
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 11: or five seasons. But it's hard when a team stalled
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 11: and they kind of get high centered on this cusp
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 11: of they're not bad, but they're not getting better. They're
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 11: good but not great, and kind of stuck there. It
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 11: is a very frustrating spot for a team to do.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta revisit that next week. I love that term
• 1:12:47
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• 1:12:50
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  Speaker 2: little fun. We have fun the other day on Wednesday.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: And here's how we had fun. And the old check
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: An now he's not returning with the Crack and Hockey
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: Network this year. The rate ed Zoe, one of our
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: favorite people.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: On the planet.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: We had him on to talk about the decision. Why
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: he made that decision. It was his decision and uh
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: we put a little blooper reel You're gonna hear in
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: a second, and then had to prank call special guests.
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't sure if the roof was retractable.
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  Speaker 14: But the one thing that I'm hoping is is that
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 14: Johnny's new suit is reversible, a new suit, so he
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 14: might look a little better if you maybe turned it
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 14: inside out.
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  Speaker 3: Your tattoos, Brownie, what the hell are you doing?
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's a fair it's a fair question.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 13: I'm thinking about anyone myself, an anchor, It says another.
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  Speaker 3: I won't say edzo.
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  Speaker 5: I'll tell you that.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: I won't say edze.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: That guy can go jump in the lake.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: I told him last night.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Johnny, I know you have to see Johnny
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: get a tattoo.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Tattoo's gonna go hey, hey, oh good stuff. Ways, now listen,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: it's almost like a rustling. Wait, the music's playing. I
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: don't know what this could mean. We have a special
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: guest on the line. Go ahead, special guest, how are you?
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  Speaker 9: Oh?
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  Speaker 13: Greetings, and let me interrupt this wonderful interview. This has
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 13: been an epic landmark achievement in broadcasting. Ian once again
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 13: by you. Your guest is a phenomenal individual ed Zoe
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 13: greeting from across the country.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 11: Are you are you get you on this one? Did
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 11: we get you?
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 6: My gosh, I had this this?
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 9: Okay?
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 6: Does somebody want to let me know what's going on?
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 9: Is this?
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 6: This is that an old show JT would have no idea,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 6: But this is your life right here?
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: Is this what we're playing there?
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 13: This is the biggest cracking This is the biggest cracking
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 13: fan in the great state of Maine right now calling in,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 13: Oh my god, on this momentous occasion. But let me
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 13: let me just.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, First off, let me let me paint the picture.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 6: Is that somebody, one of Johnny's butlers in the mansion
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: in Maine brought him, brought him the phone.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: Uh, he's got an old phone.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 6: With the with the cord that you know, reaches out
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: about fifty yards. So he's sitting out on the lake
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 6: right now, is seater up. He's got the banana hammock
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 6: on and he's talking to back and set down.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 13: And the mortgages do at midnight. So last year, I
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 13: am doing great and I just I just want to say,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 13: I just want to say, seriously, one of the great
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 13: things about our profession is that we get to speak
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 13: with and to the fans right and on behalf of
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 13: all of them. I just want to say to Eddie,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 13: thank you for the last four years. Thank you for
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 13: your wit, your one and only personality, your knowledge, your insight,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 13: and it is great game and your delivery of it
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 13: all because it has enhanced the experience of Krack and Hockey.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 13: It's grown the brand. We've gone through growing pains, we
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 13: all know this, but you have added so much to it.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 13: We support your decision. Obviously, we're going to miss you
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 13: a ton, still going to be around, which I'll deal
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 13: with on another front, I'm sure, but I just I
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 13: also want to say personally, I love you, and I
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 13: just want to say one of the greatest blessings of
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 13: my career and my life is to know you and
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 13: work with you. Sure, work with you great. I think
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 13: we do great together. But you're You're a dear friend
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 13: and you care about people and that's why you are
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 13: who you are. So I just want to say that
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 13: because we kid each other a lot, and you know,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 13: some people think we hate each other, which might be
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 13: the case, but I just wanted to say those things,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 13: and I'm glad that I got a chance to make
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 13: this collect call. I really appreciate it.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: We actually accepted the collect call too, And those.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 11: Were the days we're in a choice.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: Now you don't yeah, hey, yeah, I know that. I
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 6: know that's the roll of quarters in your pocket, but
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 6: you better put.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: One in the phone right now.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: Need another.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: Fifteen years ago exactly here, let me give you some advice.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: When you're around Johnny, don't ask him for ten bucks
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 6: just to look at you like, I don't have any cash.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: And I tried to tell him, you know what, at
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: some point here, we're all going to need cash somebody
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 6: because at some point, at some point, our credit cards
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 6: and everything's just going to go down for a few days.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: And that's just going to happen. That's just the world
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: we live in. So you better have some cash. A
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 6: few years a few years ago.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 13: When money in our health officials, When our health officials
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 13: a few years ago said hey, we we shouldn't have
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 13: any currency, I thought it.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 11: Was the greatest thing in the world I ever heard.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: I said, you're right, oh my.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 5: But hey, let me let me respond.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 6: First off, Johnny, I love you.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: You know that.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: You know you were one of the one of the
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 6: main reasons why I Uh, I came came to Seattle
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 6: be able to sit next to the best in the business,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 6: and nobody there alw great broadcasters and I work with
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 6: a lot of them, but there's nobody better. And I
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 6: just want to say thank you for everything. And I
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 6: know who There are people out there that think that
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: there is some tension, and sometimes there are, especially when
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 6: I'm sitting next to you, and it are when you're driving.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, there is tension. But I really appreciate everything,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 6: and you are a close friend and it's been it's
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: been a blast, uh to have sat next to you
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 6: for four years, and it's been uh, it's been an honor.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: So thank you for everything, and I look forward to
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 6: seeing you down the road. I'm sure we'll get a
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: handful of games for TNT and hopefully we can get
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 6: a game out West or maybe the Cracker and are
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 6: on the road and maybe we can do one of
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 6: those games and we can get the band back together
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 6: and you know, tell a few stories.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: So thanks for you.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 6: Know, thanks to jumping off the cruiser and the yacht
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: and taking five minutes out of your schedule and it's
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: been a lot of fun. So thank you very much.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: For everything.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 9: You're the best, buddy, You're the best.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: I'll I'll just speak.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: I'll wrap it up on behalf of the fans of
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: which I'm one, as well as one of the guys
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: that has the blessed opportunity to work with you guys.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: Nothing was better about the job.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: Than when it was an Edzo game and we put
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: on a headset at the Climate Pledge Arena, or we
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: would be at the studios of the KRACK and Hockey
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: Network and it would be the two of you guys
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: doing the game with JT and and just a shout
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: out to JT. I had probably three or four games
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: I worked with JT solo last year, and I had
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: great respect for him before those, and my respect actually grew,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: which I didn't think was possible, because he does a
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: hell of a job and works and he's.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: Learned from the best.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: But when you guys are doing something, it was always entertaining,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: it was always informative. The best stuff was oftentime and
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: the rehearsals, which which we heard a little clip from
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: there a moment ago talking about exactly which was what
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: we heard just a moment ago. But I agree with you, Edzo,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: there's nobody better in the business than Johnny, and getting
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: to hear him every day is fantastic, and and getting
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: to work with you, ed Zoe was a pleasure. But
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: the winners here were the fans in Seattle. They were
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: the winners from from day one with Johnny and for
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: the last four years with Edzo and you together.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: So ed Zo, best to you, man. We'll keep in touch.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: And I know, like you said, I know those texts
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: will be coming in during games oftentimes oftentimes on a
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: set as I look down, it'll just save my phone.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: Is it? Wait?
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: Is that is that Scott Malone, our producer, No, it's
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: ed Zo. All right, I'll wait on that one for.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: A second.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 13: Night out.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: It's great stuff, guys, Thank you so much for john
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: Thanks for doing this with us. We appreciate it. I'll
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: let you get I'll let you get back to Maine
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: and Edzo, you and I will be in touch. We're
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: gonna do some stuff with you this year. I think
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna try to get you on more
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: often because people want to John you know believe this,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: People want to hear more from him. I get text
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: on the text line here at the radio station, we
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: want more Edzo, so we'll have to figure out how
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: to do that.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 9: I doubt about it.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: Thanks ed Ze, Thanks you bet, buddy, you bet you everybody.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 6: Thanks to everybody in uh in the sea.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: Man, that's ed Joe, Johnny great stuff.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it. We'll come back. Rob Rang joins us coming
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: up next.
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  Speaker 9: I am doing very well. Yes, you are making me hungry, sir.
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• 1:26:50
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you a general question, Robin, just you've
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• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: Seahawks training camp practices for a while, including after they
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl back in twenty thirteen. In a
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: general sense, what you were able to lay eyes on
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: this week out at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center. How
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: would you describe the talent level? And I'm not talking
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: so much about the talent level that's going to be
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: that you know and feel strong are going to be
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: on the fifty three man, what about all those dudes
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: that are the thirty odd players that are fighting for
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: a roster spot that may or may not be here
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: and will end up getting cut at the end of August.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: How would you describe the talent level compared to past years.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 15: I think that the Seahawks are probably the most gifted
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 15: and deep team in all of the NFL. You know,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 15: it's funny you mentioned my job as a scout with
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 15: a DC Lions. Know, I'm always looking for the players
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 15: that are on the fringe that aren't going to make
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 15: an NFL roster be that you know, it would be
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 15: very good players at the Canadian Football League And frankly,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 15: there's not very many that are going to get cut
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 15: by the Seahawks that I think are going to be
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 15: able to go up north because they're going to get
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 15: Pilford by some other NFL team. I think that that
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 15: is just a testament to the scouting of the Seahawks,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 15: the depth. There's certainly a lot of veteran players, so
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 15: we all know the superstars that the Seattle has, but
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 15: their young talent, to me is what is most intriguing
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 15: about the Seahawks. And when you start talking about the
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 15: possibility of running it forward for another Super Bowl run,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 15: I think that is one of their strengths is that
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 15: this is not a team that is heavily reliant on
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 15: one or two, or three or even ten players. If
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 15: they do have a catastrophic injury to one of their superstars,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 15: They've got quality talent weighing the wings, just eager for
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 15: that opportunity to start.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I think it also says something the ability
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: to draft and sign undrafted free agents really over the
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: last two or three years. I had somebody tell me
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: this week, and I think it's true. It's probably the
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: reason we see such a small class of rookies, just
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: thirteen rookies on the roster right now for Seattle. There's
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: you know, the eight draft picks and five undrafted free
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: agents that are here. It's a small relatively, I mean
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: by NFL standards, Rob, you're running around the league and
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: watching other teams, that's a very small class. But doesn't
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: that just speak to what you just said, how deep
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: and talented they are and also fairly young. The guys
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: they've picked up the last few years.
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  Speaker 15: No question about it, you and I mean, it's it's
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  Speaker 15: miscule in terms of their undrafted free agent class compared
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 15: to other NFL teams, and even very small and compared
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 15: to what the Seahawks have done in the past. And
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 15: I think that that is something that you know, agents
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 15: out there representing these young college players, they recognized Seatle's depths,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 15: and they certainly recognize that over the last depths or so,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 15: the Seahawks have been one of the absolute best teams
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 15: in terms of just giving undrafted free agents a real
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 15: opportunity to make their team.
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  Speaker 9: You know, a lot of NFL teams they only.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 15: Practice their rookie, their their draft picks. Really in the
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 15: undrafted free agents essentially are blocking dummies. And I hate
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 15: to use that expression, but that's that's basically what the
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 15: role that they play with the Seahawks, that they're giving
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 15: guys opportunities. They're mixing and matching, and you were seeing
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 15: the rookies get meaningful snaps.
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  Speaker 9: And a real opportunity. So that's been in the past.
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  Speaker 15: This year, I think that the Seattle uh smartly recognized
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 15: the fact that their their their depth chart is stacked
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 15: and if they weren't going to get very many undrafted
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 15: free agents. And that's why when after John Schneider said
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 15: hello to us in the draft room on Day three, uh,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 15: then he you know, he went to work and made
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 15: some trades to acquire those three seventh round selections. I
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 15: think those are players that Seattle targeted as possible undrafted
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 15: free agent types, but they wreck guys they were not
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 15: likely to get them. So if you want them, then
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 15: trade down, acquire the draft picks and select them. And
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 15: you know, that's actually one of the ways. One of
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 15: the spots I want to kind of make sure that
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 15: we talk about is the cornerback Michael Dansby.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 9: He was see How's last draft pick.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 15: And he's arguably been their flashiest rookie so far, with
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 15: the exception of course, of guys like Jadarium Price or
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 15: in their first round pick or Budd Clark their second
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 15: round pick.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 9: That This is.
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  Speaker 15: A player that wasn't even invited to the combine, didn't
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 15: work out at his prote because he had a core
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 15: muscle injury, and then he wound up he had an
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 15: interception in a couple of days ago. He tipped a
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 15: pass that Bud Clark returned for a touchdown in yesterday's practice.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 15: That to me is an example of the undrafted free
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 15: agent type of players that see how actually wound up
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 15: drafting this year, and I think they're going to wind
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 15: up looking very smart.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 9: Because of it.
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  Speaker 3: Dansby's is funny.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: We talked about Dansby with your buddy Corbyn Smith, your
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: podcast partner, a couple of days, and he's telling me
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: that guys are that Seahawks scouts and others are saying, hey,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: stop talking this guy up, Like they probably figured that
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: Dansby's a guy they could sneak through the practice squad.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: But he's having that kind of camp. Word gets around
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: and then we'll see what he does in the preseason.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: It's very, very very early in the process, but Michael
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: Dansby the seventh round pick, the third of three seventh
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: round picks. As Rob mentioned, their final pick, the rookie
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: out of Arizona has been impressive so far. Let's talk
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: about Jadarian Price, the running back first round pick from
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame. I heard Hugh Millen express some concerns this
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: week about body type, specifically kind of thin, skinny legs,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: as he says, and you know, you wonder how that
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: can hold up. You know, the body type is a
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: big thing for John Schneider and how his staff drafts.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: And you know what the body makeup is. You saw
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: Jedarion Price and you saw I don't want to put
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: words in your mouth here, but I think there was
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: some good and then there was maybe some some questions.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: Is that safe to say.
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  Speaker 15: There are some questions. There are some questions, you know.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 15: I think the body type is a legitimate a concern.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 15: I think the usage wallet Notre Dame. Of course, in
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 15: the history of the NFL, drafter has never been a
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 15: player who has been selected in the first round that
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 15: never even started at the college level.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 9: And that's exactly what Seattle did. So I understand the concerns.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 15: I just you know, I've kind of cut my teeth
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 15: in the scouting business by basically taking tape of players
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 15: and trying to extrapolate that to the NFL, and I
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 15: just think the Jedarian price as a skill set that
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 15: fits in beautifully in Seattle's wide zone offense. I mean,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 15: he's just a very instinctive runner, and I think that
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 15: that is going to fit in nicely.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 9: Now.
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  Speaker 15: My biggest concern with him, and it's something that I
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 15: saw with my own eyes in person during Tuesday's practice,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 15: but I also saw this on tape at Notre Dame.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 15: If he just doesn't have that elite first step or
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 15: acceleration that we saw with Kennith Walker the Third for example,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 15: or some of the other star running backs in the
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 15: l Some guys just once they put the ball in
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 15: their hand, they just had like rocket boosters attached to
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 15: their feet and they are gone. This guy doesn't have
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 15: that type of initial, immediate acceleration. He's got kind of
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 15: a gate to him that is patient, and it almost
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 15: reminds me a little bit. I've used the comparison to
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 15: the Hall of Famer Terrell Davis, and I know a
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 15: lot of Seahawks fans out there may not remember the
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 15: Hall of Fame with the Denver Broncos all the years ago.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 15: Maybe they will remember Sean Alexander also a little bit
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 15: slow and methodical at first, but then once he sees
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 15: the hole, that's when he accelerates. And I love his
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 15: ability in the cutback. That's why I've always used the
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 15: comparison to Terrell Davis, who also played in the wide
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 15: zone offense, obviously very successfully in doing so. He just
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 15: has an ability to cut back against the grant to
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 15: be able to anticipate where the hole is going to be,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 15: kind of Peter Patti's feet a little.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 9: Bit, and then put himself in.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 15: Position to accelerate, you know, after he's already kind of
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 15: got himself moved. It's deceptive. It's hard for defensive for
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 15: defenders to kind of line them up and get good
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 15: tackles on him. And that's one of the reasons why
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 15: I do think that his ability to make people miss,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 15: his ability to kind of uh use his strong upper
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 15: body to uh, you know, to be able to bounce
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 15: off would be tacklers.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 9: I think that he's going to be.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 15: Very successful for the Seahoxy and that's one of the
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 15: reasons why I projected that he was going to be
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 15: their selection, and I'm projecting as well now he's going
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 15: to be RB one for this team. He's going to
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 15: be a Rookie of the Year candidate, in my opinion,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 15: a big reason why Siaos poised to run it forward
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 15: again this uptement season.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: Rob bran Jonas Cursia Frois Pizza. He's schemed specific, then,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: is that what you're saying.
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  Speaker 9: I don't think that he's scheming specific specific.
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  Speaker 15: I think they could be very successful in a variety
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 15: of different NFL offenses. I just think that he is
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 15: perfectly suited to the Wye zone system where basically, again
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 15: you're you're asking players to kind of run to the
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 15: outside and then have the advision to be able to
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 15: your hole.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 9: Rather than in the.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 15: Gap scheme where it's power there's going to be one
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 15: hole here and if it's not there, then it's a
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 15: little bit more reliant on.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 9: The offensive line.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 15: This one, the offensive line is going to be given,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 15: offering him several different opportunities.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 9: And I like his vision.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 15: I like his his ability to again make people miss
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 15: at the at the point of attack and then be
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 15: able to string move together to get into the open field.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 15: Where that speed is officially four four nine in the
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 15: forty yard dash. That speed is so much faster on
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 15: the football field than it is on track.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: It is Rob rang joining us here on the b
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  Speaker 2: the of the rookie class, and you mentioned Michael Dan's
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: be the corner out of Arizona jumping out. Price obviously
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: is the first round pick. Of the other guys Clark,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: Neil Stevens, Henderson, Ford Eastern, obviously he's on the pup
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: so he's not out there. Then there's the five undrafted
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: guys Hubbard, Ciamalo Jones, Junior Mason Rochelle. Who are the
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: other guys that caught your attention as far as the
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: rookie classes concerned.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 15: Certainly the pick six by Budd Clark and definitely grabs
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 15: your attention. I mean he you know, he's been playing
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 15: a little bit more of that traditional deep safety and
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 15: obviously Seattle has as a star and Julian Love a
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 15: very good player, underrated player in Tayakatta as well, and
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 15: that's where Bun Clark's im playing.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 9: And it's interesting because he does have the length and.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 15: The speed that you're looking for at that pre safety position,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 15: and he certainly has the ball skills and so that
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 15: to me was the splashiest play I saw from any
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 15: of the rookies, with maybe the exception of Jarian Price
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 15: is wheel routchdown. That was again one of the questions
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 15: people had about him is well can he be a
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 15: task catcher? And of course Ian, you and I talked
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 15: about this when Sele selected him. The Notre Dame head
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 15: coach Marcus Freeman was not going to be putting a
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 15: player back there that as a kick and punt returner
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 15: that didn't have good ball skills.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 9: So that's what I mean. I kind of.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 15: Extrapolate what I saw and he would be successful as
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 15: a pass catcher. That's where Jadari and Price also excelled.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 15: Bud Clark's same thing. We knew he had balls because
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 15: think he had sixteen interceptions over his college career, but
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 15: to see it in person, to see off of a
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 15: deflection where of course the deflection you have to have
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 15: very quick reaction ability and that's one of the things
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 15: that he did, and then he has the breakaway speed
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 15: to turn it back into a touchdown. So very excited
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 15: about Seatle's top two selections and Julian Neil the Unfortunately
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 15: he was nicked up and wasn't able to practice on Tuesday.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 15: He suffered some type of a minor injury the day before.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 15: He was walking around on the field. I suspect sawle
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 15: just being precautious, just being cautious with him. But at
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 15: the same time, when you watch him on tape, it's funny.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 15: Bud Clark as a safety is built a little bit
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 15: more like a cornerback. He sixty one hundred and eighty
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 15: five pounds. Julian Neil at six one, two hundred pounds.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 15: He looks and hits like a safety. I'm excited to
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 15: see what he's going to be able to provide Seattle
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 15: because that third cornerback position is one that's very much
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 15: up for grabs.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: Rob But there are to speak of the of the
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: youth on this team's a it's a ninety man roster.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: There's twenty four second year players on that ninety man roster.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: Out of that twenty four, I believe at sixteen or
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: seventeen we're with the Seahawks last season practice squad and
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: or some were combo practice squad and fifty three man,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: but they were with the team last season. We talked
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: about those guys, some of those guys before camp started
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: let's kind of go back down that road for a second,
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: because I'm there are some guys that you know, you
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: probably expect to make a step forward this season, and
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: you know, seeing Tory Horton healthy, Let's just start there
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: for a second. Let's just start with Horton. He's healthy,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: he's out there, he's doing things. How big an ad
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: can that be to this team?
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 9: It could be massive.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 15: I mean, I've got some One of the biggest reasons
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 15: why that, you know, John Scheider wisely made the trade
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 15: for Rashid shihit is just because he recognized that without
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 15: Tori Horton on the field as a return man and
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 15: as an outside vertical threat, and they were lacking in
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 15: that spot.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 9: So to have Tory Horton back with Rashid Shaheed, both.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 15: Of them presumably healthy long term, then that just is
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 15: almost an embarrassment of riches because you just think about it,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 15: It's going to create much more vertical threat that is
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 15: going to open up the middle for guys like Jackson
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 15: Smith and Jig and Cooper Cup to really excel, Jake
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 15: Bobo as well, and certainly see tight ends also, It's
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 15: just going to create this massive vacuum in the middle
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 15: of the field to attack, and so I'm really excited
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 15: about Tory Horton's returning. It's funny he did struggle with
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 15: injury at Colorado State. That's the reason why he fell
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 15: to the fifth round a couple of years ago. Because
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 15: when you see him on tipia when he's healthy, he
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 15: is dynamic, there is no question about it. And so
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 15: that's the thing is that now that he is healthy,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 15: I was watching him a lot yesterday just to kind
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 15: of see how fluidly he was moving, and he looks
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 15: like the exact same guy that was Colorado State. Will
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 15: saw catch or score six touchdowns a year ago as
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 15: a rookie when he barely even got into the field,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 15: you know, I mean, this wasn't a guy that is
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 15: the first round selection, was put onto the field immediately.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 15: I mean, he had to kind of carve out his spots.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 15: The opponents in the NFL, of course, didn't know what
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 15: to expect from him because they were focusing on Jackson
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 15: Smith and Jagba and Cooper cup and and Tory Horton
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 15: took advantage of that one on one opportunities that he
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 15: was getting to create the big plays. NFL teams are
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 15: going to know who he is. Now, they're going to
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 15: be shielded. They're going to be trying to put a
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 15: little bit more emphasis on on covering him deep and
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 15: again that's just going to create more opportunities for everybody else.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: Let me, I'll let it be a scout's choice here.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: There's a bunch of other second year guys. I'm curious
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: about Elijah Arroyo in what is a very deep and
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: crowded tight end room got even more so this week
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: with the audition of Nick Venette. He's coming into his
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: second year was banged. That didn't put a lot of
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: production up, but we know what he has skill set wise.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: Riley Mills, who saw him the Super Bowl defensive lineman.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: You talked about the line of the offensive line and
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: Cable Dude, Richmond Amari Kite, guys like that. Maybe, but Jacardi,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: you're right the running back who maybe made it easier
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: to not wait around to see when Kenny mcintoss is
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: gonna get healthy. I'll let you you figure out who
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: you want to talk about amongst those guys.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 15: Well, let's start off with Riley Mills and just you know,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 15: you mentioned the Super Bowl sack. I think that that
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 15: was an example of what he does best.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: You got just raw power to him.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 15: And he's six foot five, he's two hundred and ninety
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 15: five pounds, and he can play that traditional kind of
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 15: defensive tackle. Those are kind of a role. I like
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 15: him better as more of a traditional base defensive end
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 15: and just because of this power.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 9: But my point is that he has the versatility to
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 9: slide up and down the line of scrimmage.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 15: The only underplayer on Sials Ross I think that really
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 15: can do that is, of course, Leonard Williams. You know,
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 15: the number one rated defensive tackle in all of the NFL,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 15: at least according to you know, the ESPN's rankings and
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 15: their comment the comments that they received from NFL teams
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 15: and personnel. I mean, any time you're comparing a fifth
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 15: round rookie a year ago to arguably the best defensive
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 15: lineman in all of the NFL, then that's obviously pretty
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 15: heavy stuff. I just think that Riley Mills is a
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 15: is a budding star and the reason why he fell
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 15: to the fifth round, similar to Tory Horton, is because
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 15: of durability.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 9: But if he can be healthy, then he's not just
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 9: going to be.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 15: A contributed contributor To's defensive line. He's going to push
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 15: for meaningful snaps and so of course has some uh
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 15: you know, some some age at that defensive tackle position.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 15: So I'm really excited about Riley Mills. And then speaking
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 15: of exciting, uh, you know, Elijah or Royal. To me,
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 15: that was one of the splash of your plays from
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 15: yesterday in the very first touchdown that was strown. And
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 15: this was a day where Seal's offense was humming, uh Actus.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 15: Mike McDonald kind of said that, you know, he was
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 15: disappointed how the practice that with Jaylen Monroe at quarterback
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 15: they weren't able to score. It felt like there was
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 15: a little bit more emphasis on the offense really getting going.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 15: And so Sam Donald led Seattle on an opening drive
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 15: touchdown and it was to Elijah Arroyo. To me, what
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 15: was most exciting about it. It was a kind of
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 15: a back shoulder throw to the left side of the
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 15: of the end zone and Elijah Arroyo was blanketed by
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 15: I can't remember which corner it was, but it was
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 15: one of Seattle's starting corners. I believe it was Josh
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 15: Job and just the timing, the precision of the throw
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 15: by Sam Darnald. The turnaround recognition by Elijah roy snatched
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 15: the ball out of the air. I mean he was
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 15: open for a split second, but because he's so big
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 15: at six point five two hundred and fifty pounds with
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 15: those long arms and those receiver like hands, and he
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 15: was able to pluck the ball for an easy touchdown.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 15: That again just kind of shows you what type of
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 15: potential that he had. So I'm very excited for what
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 15: Elijah Arroyo might be able to provide. And as you
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 15: mentioning tight end room is stacked, it might be as
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 15: good as any team in all.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 9: Of the NFL.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 15: And we just got a little bit of a hint
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 15: of it last year at AJ Barner having his I
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 15: wouldn't say the breakoup because he was he was really
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 15: good as a rookie, but he was even better at
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 15: his past season. Now that tight end riom has that
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 15: much more versatile, with the Royal hopefully healthy all year long.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's six tight ends on the roster,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: Royal Lance Mason, Eric Salbert, Nick Vannette, A J.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: Barner, Nick Callier up.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: And I mean out of those guys, Lance Mason, the
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: rookie out of Wisconsin and undrafted free agent. I mean,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: he's got the hardest road to get there. You can
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: make a case for the other five guys all being
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: on the roster, I mean, who do you let go of?
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: And att they brought in. They brought Vanette in for
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: a reason. I'm not sure what that reason is, but
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: they brought him in at the age of thirty three.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: Cali Up is a guy that gave him some good
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: snaps last season, Salbert, we all know what he did.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: And then obviously Barner's healthy too, so it's probably as
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: deep a position group as they have.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 15: Rob.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: We will talk more as the training camp in preseason approaches,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: but in the meantime, safe travels as you make your
• 1:45:59
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• 1:46:02
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• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: we'll talk soon.
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  Speaker 9: Sounds great. Thanks for having me on as always, Rob.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think cal is.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 12: Going to be bad for the rest of the year.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 12: For this bad at least. I mean, small's the first
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 12: day of August. Man, we got less than fifty games
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 12: to go. And dude, there's no way he's gonna sniff
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 12: two hundred.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 11: This is who he is.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: This here.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 12: Just accept it, and you know what, give me the
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 12: Seahawks Patriots Week one and then I'm gonna forget all
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 12: about this team until March.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: The pessimism is reigning supreme shocking with our baseball team,
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: he says, Just get the Seahawks.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 3: We're at Seahawks right now.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 5: It's all good.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: Things are good out here, man.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: Those are good today. A little feisty today with this
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: defending Super Bowl channel. I'm feisty out here, Yeah, a
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: little feisty.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: It's okay, it's all good.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 16: You have one more, all right, this is your old
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 16: friend the ancient Mariner.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 16: I really hate to agree with the analytics soccer Leven Andrews,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 16: but he's right. If you say this team is good,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 16: that's kind of like saying that George Arjoris was a
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 16: better owner than Danny.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 11: Kay.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 5: I don't know who any of those guys.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 3: Are, but o'kay. How many references that you don't get?
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 3: But I like the shot at you in the middle
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: of I'm alling on that. I'm all in on that.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's see Ian Alo weents in Red Blacks sixty
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: one and a half over under a night. What do
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: you think that's a CFL game?
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 5: Oh, God, degenerous, I think.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: Well, here's what I would say you would if you're
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: talking about a CFL game, you always go the over.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just go the over.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, it'd be Uncanadian not to go with the over,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: much like it's on American not to go the over.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 9: Here.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 5: It's true, right, it's true.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: Come on, just go with the over.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 7: All.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 3: Right, let's see, I agree with Andrews.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: It's irresponsible to be buyers at the treadline when you're
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: an average team with a mid market payroll.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 3: Trade Randy and Kirby and retool for next year. Wow. Wow,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: really we're going down that road.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 5: I don't think they'll do it, but no, there's an
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 5: argument for it.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 7: No there is. Ian.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: I'm forty three give up on the marriags Is organization
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: officially in twenty twenty two. I did not chump on
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: the bandwagon in twenty three or twenty five. I just
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: decided the anger, disappointment, fusion stressed the manners gave me
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: two hundred plus days a year wasn't worth it. I
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: hold no ill will to people who are still die
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: hard ma minnor fans. I just decided the negativity they
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: brought me for decades wasn't for me. Wow, I'm gonna
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: invite you to come on back, Just come on back.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: Part of being a sports fan is being miserable. That's
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: just part of it.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 5: Trust me, at least a Seattle one.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: I mean just yes, yeah, I mean come on, let's
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: let's if you couldn't enjoy what happened last year, dang man,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: what's happened to you?
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: What happened? Sad, isn't it?
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 4: Boy?
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: A lot of people anti cal I can tell you that. Yep,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 3: I do like this one.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: I'm all in on this storyline, because what the hell,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: let's find a reason season was cursed. When Cal gave
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: Randy the cold shoulder in the WBC.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 3: That was it.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's necessarily untrue.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 4: By the way, uh.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: Employ the mul whoppers is a step up from hash
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: and point them Molly Waters to step up from hashtag.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: Refuse to talk. See there's some fans out there.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 16: There, that's true.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 3: There were Okay, what else we got going? Ian's out
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 3: there grinding on guys?
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 5: What did I say?
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: Did I say that earlier? I probably missed the Yeah, yeah,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: I probably did.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: Probably did along the way you are who your record
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: says you are, Well, then they're just kind of mad, right,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: just kinda that's who they are.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 5: It's they're under five hundred. If that's and I think
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 5: that's they're closer to an under five hundred team than
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 5: they are a playoff team.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: Somebody's mad because Rob rang was talking about body type
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: like Shiner doesn't already know do the homework. They're happening
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: to fit their style the same way a chan in
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: Miami put people on the radio that know what they're
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: talking about. This guy must be related to Greg Bell,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: so he's ripping on Rob Greg and by the way,
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: you're also ripping on Hugh Millin because what Rob Rang
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: and Greg Bell have said about Jadarian Price just legs
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, it's the same thing that Hugh
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: Millen's talked about all week long. So I guess all
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: of our analysts are dumb.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 9: Is that what it is?
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: That what I'm getting?
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: This guy sounds so oli our so so Hugh sounds dumb.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: Rob sounds dumb. Greg sounds dumb. We all sound dumb.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, gotcha?
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: Uh, somebody else is giving us another emphasis on the
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: molly wap. Oh we should talk about Monday, by the
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: way a little bit. Yeah, right, So trade deadline coming
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: up on Monday, three o'clock Pacific time.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 3: Correct, I'm right on that, I'm correct.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, So we will mollywop Monday, probably at one normal time,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: and then I think the plan is all that we'll
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: kind of keep Chris on the old on the old
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: zoom on the old zoom call and keep him out
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: there for a while and just kind of have him
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: almost on a standby for that moon final hour from
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: two to three, just in case anything happens, because we
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: did that last year. That kind of seemed to work
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: out pretty good. Right well, you know, yeah, you'll be
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: able to see him. He can wave you and you
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: can say a I and here's what's going on. Let's
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: go to Chris Chris and and I'm I'm assuming since
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: I know Chris, he's the ultimate consummate professional. We we
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: did this in the past when Kurtis Kraft, he was
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: working for us with the NFL free agency, did a
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: few a couple of days, and Curtis would like be
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: hitting the sounder, like we gave him the power to
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: hit the sounder.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 3: And break in.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, he was doing it when a long
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: snapper got signed by the Jacksonville Jaguar. So we will,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: we will, and I love you Curtis to death, buddy.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: But not every move is a move we need to
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: worry about.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: Let's just say that I like that. You know, if
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 3: the if the Cincinnati.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: Reds trade a a you know, low leverage reliever to
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks for a player to be named later, we
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: won't really worry about that that happen, could happens, won't
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: worry about that, But we'll worry about the other ones
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: along the way. So we'll kind of have our our
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: basis cover. Yes, who will that's a baseball pun for you.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: By the way, on a Friday, well of our base
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: is covered on Monday. There you go with that, getting
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: ready to go molly wop and everything else. I'm telling
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: you they're gonna win two three this weekend.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 5: And all right and you say, no, what world has happened?
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 5: What reality are we living in?
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 3: Now? They're gonna win two or three this weekend? Okay,
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: bank it take that one to the bank.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 5: All right, I hope some for my postcast purposes.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: Hey, that one to the bank. Softie joins us from
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: Cheenie Stadium. We'll see who's thereon who's not me to
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: call some guys up.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: We'll find out next. Already, let's head in or down
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 3: to Cheenie Stadium.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: We'll check in with our Tacoma Radiers correspondence, Dave Softy Maller,
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: who's standing by?
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: What are the moves? An he moves?
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 5: Who's been scratched? Who's coming up? What's going on?
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 4: What do you know? Yes, I know, I know nothing.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 3: I don't think so, I didn't think so.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 17: There's a refrigerator here full of Uh, let's see what
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 17: do we got. We got coke zero, we got sprite,
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 17: we got diet coke minute made. Uh what is that estrella?
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 17: Jalisco beer? There's a stella in there, Michelobultra.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 4: It's amazing.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 17: On Michelobultra has gotten as big as they are, man,
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 17: they're huge everywhere you go.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 4: Michela Bultra.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 3: Are you yeah?
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 12: Thing?
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: Are you? H? So you in the rain? Your club
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 3: downs called Summit Club.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 17: No, we are in a suite at Jennie Stadium. Oh well,
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 17: hell they don't let us in there. Oh well that's
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 17: above our grade. Sweets better than what I.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: Just mentioned, So that's not bad.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 4: Probably there's no food in here, man, well that's not good.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 17: We came down here the first time, came down here
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 17: a couple of years ago, and they were literally serving us.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 4: Like diabetes on a plate.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 17: It was unbelievable the stuff they would bring us, man, anything,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 17: anything you wanted. And then they finally wi up and say, yeah,
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 17: you know we're going to stop that.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, you guys eat too much.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know too much along the way anyway, what's
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 4: going on back there?
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: Well, it's it's the warmest day here. So you're quite
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: happy you're not going to be cooking in the tent
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: for the next four hours.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 3: I can tell you that.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't mind that, you know.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 17: I mean, we kind of figured it out that if
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 17: you hang a big bed sheet off the tent and
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 17: block the view from the west, you're you're in good shape.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 4: But it does get a little hot out there. Man,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 17: I mean, it's it's training camp and six days away
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 17: from the Hall of Fame game. When's the first Seahawk
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 17: preseason game?
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 4: When's that happening?
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 17: That would be two weeks from tomorrow, sir, two weeks
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 17: from tomorrow the Seahawks play.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know you care about the preseason.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 4: I don't eat the win so I can avoid it.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: Fifteenth of August against the Dallas Cowboys into town.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 4: And is that like a Thursday night, one night of
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 4: the week.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: That would be a Saturday surday at five pm?
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 4: Thank god?
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 3: Awesome? Yes, love it. You'll be there, You'll be there
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 3: with us. No, no, I will not be there, Okay,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: all right, all.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 4: Right, nope.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 17: I give away my preseason tickets every single year year.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 17: I think there's only one home preseason game this year.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 17: Sounds right, Saturday, August to fifteenth.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 4: And I will not be to that game.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 3: Then they go to Nashville and.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 4: And then Kansas City after that.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, the Chiefs come back here two games.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 3: That are hot as hell.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 11: Oh my god.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, all right.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 4: And you want my you want my Seahawk Cowboy preseason game?
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, See, you don't care inury? You anti preseason too?
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: Are you an anti preseason guy?
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm a baseball guy. I'm too focused on
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 5: the baseball season at that point.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, let me let me point. Let me point
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: something out their tips. It's uh, looking at the text line,
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: you're starting to becoming the minority a little bit.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 3: A lot of people.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 17: There could be nothing going on, and I still would
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 17: not be interested in that preseason game. And you know
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 17: who else isn't interested in it? The Seahawks because nobody
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 17: will play. Nobody of significance.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 4: Will play in that game.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 5: No one watch.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 4: Jalen Milroe, Sam Donald won't take one snap in.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: The prest time Donald, thank you, thank you, please say
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: names correctly, thank you.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 3: Well, he will not.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: And I looked at uh, I looked at Dallas last year.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: What they did in the first preseason game. And I
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: can pretty much tell you that that's the same philosophy
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: that Shoty has gone there.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean it's the same philosophy everybody's gotten around
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 17: the league. So I think we're all we're all, we're
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 17: all suckers forgetting hoodwinked and even buying these tickets.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: For God's sakes, well, they make you right if you're
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: season ticket over yes, correct, like you're forced like a
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: gun to your head you have to buy a preseason game.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I had a salesperson from the
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: Seahawks show up to my house with a pistol and said,
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 2: you want your tickets, you better buy these tickets.
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  Speaker 4: He said, okay, fine, I'll buy him. I don't want
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 4: to give me the damn tickets.
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  Speaker 3: That's not perfect. Sure, yeah, whatever you need, man, whatever
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 3: you need.
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  Speaker 17: But I always I always give him away to somebody.
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  Speaker 17: And there they seem to be pretty happy to go
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  Speaker 17: and thrilled, so you know, it's nice to Uh. We
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 17: had our first little scuffle today between who pretty good. Well,
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  Speaker 17: we had a little one the other day, but first
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  Speaker 17: one good one.
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  Speaker 10: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: I believe it was Leonard Williams and uh a, J.
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  Speaker 4: Barner is real.
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  Speaker 3: It was fucking it's about one hundred yards from Ron'm sitting.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, I'm gonna guess you don't want your
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: starting tight end and your best defensive lineman getting into I.
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  Speaker 17: Mean I don't mind it, you know, things getting a
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 17: little child, as long as there's no punches thrown or
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  Speaker 17: fingers broken or wrist sprained or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: At no, he's just pushing a shovel, okay.
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  Speaker 17: I mean the best one ever was Russell Wilson and
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  Speaker 17: Richard Sherman, with Sherman just annihilating him at picking him
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  Speaker 17: off and telling him how much he sucked.
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  Speaker 4: Right, was that the first showed up here in twelve?
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  Speaker 4: Is that when that happened?
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  Speaker 2: No is after that, No after it was it was
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: it was when things are starting to go downhill. That
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  Speaker 2: would have been like in fifteen sixteen, things are going
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  Speaker 2: earl standing off to the side, holding in cam was
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  Speaker 2: order to be found, twenty nine has got a bucket
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  Speaker 2: hat on, doesn't want to practice, and thirty one was
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: just chilling by a pool somewhere.
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  Speaker 17: I missed those days. I mean, I love what we
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 17: got now, but I missed those days. I really do mean,
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 17: I would have been in drama. Man, I's done.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 3: Witherspoon's doing as much as he's doing, you know.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 4: And well he's got two years left, so you know,
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 4: it's not like.
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  Speaker 3: He's, well, he's got one plus the option.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: But they're gonna right, I mean, it's just it's just
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: that it's that little race between him and is that
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: race between him and Gonzalez who's gonna sign first? Right,
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: And they're both repped by the same agent. I think
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: ye rep by the same agent. Both gonna make a
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 2: ton of money. So all right, your Genie Stadium. What's
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 2: up coming on show today? I think Chuck's gonna swing by.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 17: He's doing the game on AM Riley today or Sacrament
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  Speaker 17: on the rainiars at seven o five, so he'll be
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 17: on the air doing the game.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 4: Midlan's gonna hop on.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 17: Phil Steele will join us from Phil Steele's College Football Preview,
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 17: our official unofficial kickoff for the college football season. At six,
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 17: we will go over our predictions for last night's performance
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 17: from Brian wu See how we did not a little.
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  Speaker 4: Bit of a hint.
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  Speaker 5: We were way off, Jack, we were way off, way off, right.
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  Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: All right, enjoyed, Genie Stadiu. Hopefully they bring you some food.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: I don't want you to starve down there, buddy, Thank
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: you
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  Speaker 1: For the mild mannered and marginally objectionable the Inverness this
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  Speaker 1: paddle day, saying so long everyone,