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What Leadership Looks Like Across The Country · The Elsa Kurt Show

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  SPEAKER_04: I don't mind holding down the fort.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, some people evidently are not appreciative of my efforts.
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  SPEAKER_04: We'll talk about that in a little while.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, we will.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know why they like to make me angry.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think they think it's funny.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's kind of like my my kids, my adult children, they think it's funny when I get mad.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're like, oh, look how cute mommy's mad.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, you know, I can still knock you out.
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  SPEAKER_01: I can do it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm telling you.
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  SPEAKER_01: It may take a lot out of me, but I can still do it.
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• 1:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I don't know, whatever.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, we'll be talking about that uh towards the end.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_01: We got a lot of great topics, huh?
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: We got uh good stuff, good stuff.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_03: Lots going on, lots going on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, all right, here's everything.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_01: Here's what we got going on.
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  SPEAKER_03: From the skies over Iran to the poles of power, our warriors pull off impossible rescues while the administration demands results.
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  SPEAKER_03: But coast to coast, blue state leaders keep pushing division and death tonight.
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  SPEAKER_01: We cut for the noise on what's working, what's not, and my real strength deal with I kind of love the end of that every time that's with our boxing gloves up and we're just gonna take it, we're taking it all on, guys.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so yeah.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I think we should probably start off with uh some big, big great news.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh this is a big yeah.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, this was uh, you know, folks, this is not something that you see every day.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_04: And in fact, this is something that you never see ever.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_04: Um is an exceptionally intricate operation.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, and so what happened was, you know, an F-15 Eagle, F-15E, strike eagle, was shot down uh over Iraq, uh, supposedly with a shoulder-fired, you know, anti-aircraft missile.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and the aircrew ejected, thankfully, safe safely, both of them.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_04: The pilot, the pilot, the guy in the front seat who actually flies the plane, right, is uh he was recovered fairly quickly.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_04: Uh the backseat guy um who controls the weapon systems and you know communications and a bunch of other stuff um while the pilot is flying, he was not recovered very quickly.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_04: And so there was an immediate effort launched, uh, which included some helicopters and some other aircraft, some fixed-wing aircraft and A10s and some other things, uh, in the immediate aftermath of the shootdown to try and quickly recover those two pilots.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_04: Again, one successful, and then the guy in the backseat, the WISDO, as they call them, was not recovered.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_04: Um, in the midst of that, an A-10 took enough ground fire that that pilot had to eject.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_04: Um I don't know if he put it in the water uh or if he put it down in Kuwait, but either way, put it down in a safe place, you know, ejected himself, was recovered too.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and then we went into this amazing cycle that they went into to finish the recovery on the back seater from the F-15.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_04: The intricacy of this, folks, um, from what I know, what I understand, and the folks that I have talked to, for those that aren't tracking this, uh, our United States military in a very joint operation.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_04: When I say joint, that's Air Force personnel, Navy personnel, Army personnel, all participating.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, they flew uh helicopters and fixed-wing airplanes into Iran.
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  SPEAKER_04: They landed, uh, they offloaded more helicopters out of the back of the cargo planes, uh, and then they launched SEAL Team Six uh to pick up this back seater, recovered him back to this very temporary base that they set up.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, in the midst of that, it sounds like the two C-130s got stuck in the sand.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_04: Um folks, those aircraft are very, very specialized.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_04: They have a lot of capability, they have command and control communication capability, they have refueling capability, they have all kinds of capabilities.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, and we had two of them on the ground.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_04: And I think because my assumption is because of the weight, uh weight obviously regarding the fuel that's on board to refuel aircraft, they sunk in the sand.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and so they they recover the people, everybody's back, there's no casualties, there's a little bit of firefight, my understanding is, and then uh they couldn't get the planes out because of where they crossed them and they sunk in the sand.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_04: But they ended up destroying two of these uh C-130, MC-130J aircraft, along with at least one, and I've heard rumored two special operations helicopters, the little MH6 Littlebird, uh, as they're referred to.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_04: But then they packed everybody up and flew them out, and they recovered the the back seater very, very successfully.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_04: Um, folks, think about what just happened, like what we just saw.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_04: They flew into Iran, hostile territory, they set up a temporary base in the middle of the night, they launched aircraft from there, they recovered this guy with special operations, they brought him back, they packed everything up.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, things didn't go quite according to plan.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_04: So they had to blow some aircraft and destroy some equipment, but we recovered the most valuable asset we have, which is a human being, and we blocked him out.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_04: Um that that operation, folks, is unbelievably intricate and so well done by everybody involved.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely incredible.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_01: And it right away actually made me think of uh an interview I had done a little while back, about a year or so ago, um, uh serviceman John Chapman's sister, I interviewed and the you know, different administration, different everything, different outcome, everything, uh harrowing, awful, awful, uh heartbreaking story.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_01: And so this, and and I know there's other ones like that from other administrations and the way they handled the situations.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, this is just one I know of personally.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so this for me, hearing this one was just such a uh redemption moment of that.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm I'm so glad I can't help but be so glad that it was uh under a a Trump leadership administration.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, of course, we all know you know there's gonna be plenty of people that won't give the proper and due credit for that, uh, for making that call.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, because that is a listen, I wouldn't want to be in that position of making that call because you are risking the lives of you know, so many more.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_01: He I actually, you know what?
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: I do have a clip of uh resident Trump talking.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_04: So we'll the risk versus reward on this was to give the go on and do that risk versus reward on this.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_04: It took a lot of guts.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_04: I think it was a hundred percent the right call, but like you said, took a lot of guts to make this call.
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  SPEAKER_04: Other administrations have failed to make calls like this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Failed miserably.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, absolutely.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_01: So here he is talking about it.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_02: Generally, when planes are knocked down in war, especially when you're fighting a strong group, an evil group, you can't really do this because uh you send in 200 men to pick up one.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_02: And it's something that's usually not attempted as much as you want to attempt.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_02: And bad things happen to that one or two.
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  SPEAKER_02: And in this case, we did too, and might not have been attempted before.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_02: But we did.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_02: And we got we had great talent, but we got a little luck too, I would say.
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  SPEAKER_02: And uh we were helped by a lot of people, a lot of great people.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it was an honor to be involved with it.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's uh very historic.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_02: This is uh a rescue that's very historic.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_02: It'll go down to the books late Thursday night.
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  SPEAKER_02: An American F-15 fighter jet went down deep inside enemy territory in Iran while participating in Operation Epic Fury, where we're doing unbelievably well.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_02: Uh well at a level that nobody's ever seen before.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_02: The entire country could be taken out in one night.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_02: And that night might be tomorrow night.
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  SPEAKER_02: Both members of the crew ejected from the aircraft and landed alive on Iranian soil.
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  SPEAKER_02: I immediately was asked to make a decision.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_02: I ordered the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_02: Armed Forces to do whatever was necessary to bring our brave warriors back home.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_02: A risky decision because we could have ended up with a hundred dead as opposed to one or two.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's a hard decision to make.
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  SPEAKER_02: But in the United States military, we leave no American behind.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, you go ahead.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you can't unfortunately, unfortunately, President Trump, you know, because he is often so, you know, he uses terms like never seen before, no, it's never been this good before.
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  SPEAKER_04: When he this really is an operation that no one's ever seen before.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
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  SPEAKER_04: This really is an exceptionally risky operation.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_04: This is this is stuff that they make movies out of.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_04: Like, no kidding.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_04: Unfortunately, because of his his normal speech pattern, like it doesn't hit as hard because he always says things like, Oh, this is the best it's ever been.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_04: But this the folks, I I can't, there's no way to to overstate how impressive this entire thing is.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and when they when they do and they will make the movie, write the book, um, you know, people will really get to see how I wouldn't be surprised if that was already in the works, if that was already right, like it's is being written and scripted and and plotted out, right?
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_01: As it well should be.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that that is uh academy.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, who cares about the academy, but you know what I mean.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: That is academy worthy if ever there was anything, I'm sure, uh already.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_04: Any studio executive worth their salt woke up and was like, oh, somebody grab the rights to this as soon as we can get a hold of that pilot, get that guy, find a baby seal who was on that operation.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know that they are clamoring for it right now.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_01: There's no way that they're not.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, every studio is is trying to jump on this and get the best and the quickest story.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, it's really amazing.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: I I I tell you, you know, I I think about and uh the the question that I have for um for you here to just discuss is um it it's a very for you and I, it's a really redundant question because I already know what our answer is.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: But the question is do we want leaders who hesitate or ones who send everything we've got to bring them home, no matter the cost?
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just I for me, it's it's uh everything we've got at at no cost because that's who we are, that's what we do.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_04: And um and we have enough, we have enough recent examples, like Benghazi is probably the easiest one, right?
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_04: And that that's really not that long ago, where we had an administration and and you know, um, I won't even say leadership, but we had people who refused to commit uh efforts like this to protect uh and recover people who are in a horrible, horrible spot.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_04: You know, if you know anything about Benghazi and you know, 13 hours and and all of that, um there were plenty of opportunities for Secretary Clinton, for President Obama to step in, to provide, to direct, to construct, order, whatever you want to say, to put US military in and around to stop the to prevent what happened from happening and they didn't right.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_01: Let me ask you.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_04: You can't like you can't hesitate.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: You just can't let me ask you like the overarching obvious thing is that you know it's it's a failure of leadership to make a decision.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_01: Is it in your mind, is it decision paralysis or is it lack of caring?
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_04: Or is it both?
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_04: I think it is uh it depends on the case, but I think it is um uh risk that most of us don't understand or don't consider to be valid.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_04: And I say that in the sense of it's the risk of politics.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_04: Um another great, you know, folks, none of these movies are 100% factual, they're a little bit sensationalized, but another great one is Zero Dark 30.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and if you've ever seen that, it's about the bin Laden raid into Pakistan, and there's a great scene in there where you've got, you know, uh one of the deputy directors from the CIA speaking to the White House Chief of Staff, and he looks at him and he says, I don't understand the risk of not going.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_04: Like I understand the risk of going, but what I don't understand is the risk of not going.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_04: You know, and and so it's a great, you know, it's politicians, elected officials, many of them, not all of them, think of things very differently in the sense of what is the you know, there's a risk of go of doing and there's a risk of not doing, and they tend to risk, you know, the the not doing is where they tend to lean because it's less risk.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_04: If you do nothing, you know, but if you do something, then it's a problem.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_04: So it's just a very different mindset that again for for all of us it's a no-brainer, right?
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_04: Launch it, yeah.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_04: Put the mission back together, get the specialists together, um, put it, you know, put it in motion, don't rush to failure, but put it in motion and get the people in that need to be there.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but their reflex is to do is to do nothing.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_04: It's not it's not paralysis for lack of decision making, it's a deliberate decision to do nothing.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which is and I think, you know, for those of us who who have a a love for Trump, um, that is one of the biggest reasons why.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: Because he is not afraid to make the hard decisions, the ones that may not turn out the way that we all would want it to.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but because they are the morally right decisions.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_01: And and I think this was one of the greatest, biggest examples of that.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, a another one of those moments of, you know, can we just trust the guy a little bit?
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, let's let a let the man do his job.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like let him, let him be the boss that he is because he knows what he's doing and he knows who he's sending.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like if I'm I'm thinking if he didn't have the confidence in the people that he was sending, you know, uh, I don't know.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what would have happened otherwise, but the the confidence that he had in the people that he has lined up and in their positions um is pretty powerful.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I can, you know, hopefully speak for just about everyone with a heart and a brain and say that, my goodness, we are so, so grateful for the men and women who uh step into that role and uh do it despite the fear.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: Because obviously there's fear, you're a human being, but you do it despite it.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and they, you know, and they sent, you know, they sent the best, you know, they they truthfully did.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_04: They sent, you know, Air Force special operations, they sent Army Special Operations Aviation, the same guys that flew the Venezuela raid, the same guys flying the helicopters in this operation, you know, um Delta Force did the Venezuela raid this time around, it was SEAL Team Six, which are very similar capabilities, you know.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and and so, you know, the guys that the guys doing the groundwork on this one were SEAL team six.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_04: So, you know, they they grabbed up the best folks on a very short response time and they put them in play.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, but again, think about what was launched.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_04: You're talking about hundreds of people, you're talking about, you know, probably in the neighborhood of a dozen aircraft.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_04: Um, it really was an involved operation and and on a very short notice.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_04: And again, if something goes wrong, it it can be catastrophic.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_04: You know, we had the earliest example of this was 1980 when they tried to recover the hostages in Iran.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, wow, yeah.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Operation Eagle Claw and the first operation that the baby brand new Delta Force had ever run.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_04: And because of an accident on the ground, a collision between a helicopter and a cargo plane, you know, and an explosion, and you know, stuff got burned, and um, they the the operation was a failure.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_04: Uh so you know, anybody who knows the military history has that in the back of their mind as they're saying go execute this.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_04: And, you know, again, um kudos to everybody involved because they pulled it off, they did a fantastic job.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_04: Now, was it perfect?
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_04: No, we we had to blow up some airplanes, right?
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, um, mission accomplishment, you know, we we recover the individual, which is great.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_04: Equipment can be replaced.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_04: Is it expensive?
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_04: Sure, it is.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, and I know I have full faith and confidence that our military will go back, they will sit down, they will figure out why those aircraft got stuck, what they could have done better to prevent that from happening, from having to blow them apart and leave them there.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_04: They'll they will do a post-mortem or an after action, whatever you want to call it, and they'll make sure if they get called to do this again, that won't happen.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_04: And that's how that's why our military is as good as it is, is because we are super, we are hypercritical of the things that we don't do well until we get there.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's gotta be this this whole thing had to be um had to be like a big morale boost for our military too, to know, to know uh, you know, visually everything that our leadership, our president has their back.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: That like, wow, that says a lot.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: For sure.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: Very, very cool.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, thanking God for the outcome of that for sure.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: And Trump for uh for giving the green light for it.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: Amazing.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um staying in the same region here.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about this.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think we should start this one with the uh with the quote that we are the let's start it with this right here.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh for those of you listening and uh not watching, I'm gonna read it to you.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: It is it is the tweet.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: I guess it wasn't really a tweet, it's truth truth social, probably, right?
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh from President Trump, who said now famously, a whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want that to happen, but it probably will.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: However, now that we have complete and total regime change where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionary wonderful can happen.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: Who knows?
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_01: We will find out tonight.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: One of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: 47 years of extortion, corruption, and death will finally end.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, God bless the great.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't realize that I cut it off there.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: So, but uh, does he say uh um something about Allah too, right?
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_01: Is this the one where he says something about Allah at the end?
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, he uh put that out.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: And just as you would expect, absolute um hysteria, rage broke out that he would say such, you know, horrible, horrifying things.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: And um meanwhile, the rest of us just sat back and went, it's okay, it's all good.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: There's a reason for it.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_01: There's a reason for it.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: And you, Clay, before we came on, actually gave the best reason.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I want you to go ahead and share that.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it the reaction, like you said, was a lot of people like, oh, he's calling for genocide.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_04: This is a violation of the Geneva Convention.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_04: This is, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_04: I I can tell you folks from personal experience, culturally, uh, and President Trump knows this.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_04: In that part of the world, and especially in that country with that mindset, that leadership, that radical Islam mentality, they understand power and they understand violence.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_04: That's what they understand.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_04: They don't understand and don't care to understand political speak.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_04: They don't know and care to understand, you know, diplomacy to an extent.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_04: If diplomacy worked with them, we wouldn't have had to do this in the first place.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_04: Let's just be honest.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_04: But they understand, they understand violence and they understand power.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_04: And that's what President Trump Trump projected in that statement and gave them two weeks or whatever it was, and he gave them the deadline and he said, Hey, this is it, you know, Tuesday night.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_04: And and they believed him.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_04: They they believed him.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_04: And that's why right now we are sitting here, although there are already reports coming in.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_04: By the way, folks, Wednesday at 5 30 or Wednesday at 5 30 Eastern time.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_04: Um, there are reports coming in right now that there's some breakage in the ceasefire.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_04: However, um, that was the that was you know, President Trump did that on purpose.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_04: It was it was purposeful.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_04: It wasn't radical, it wasn't negligent, it wasn't, you know, off the hook off the house.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_04: Reckless, none of the things that is a very specific statement for a very specific audience in a language that they understand and respect.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_04: And mission accomplished.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_04: He got the message across.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, let's see.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, do sorry, I lost my place, guys.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: It happens.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so yeah, I mean, right after the rescue, Trump locked in a two-week strike suspension, like you said, of course, with some little things breaking out here and there.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, with uh Iran, of course, to hammer up a real deal on the Strait of Hormuz.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Planes are down, shipping lanes are open, uh, opening back up for now, but the message is clear.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: Play games and we hit harder next time.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: And and I think you're exactly right.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, he can't send any more clear messages that he sends.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: And in the language, like you said, that they understand.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, quite frankly, if um if you're them and you're looking at just the rescue miss mission alone, like this is this is what he's willing to do.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: This is like he's crazy.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: And you know what I mean?
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's like the the mentality.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you don't want to mess with a crazy man.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's what they say, right?
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: By the way, you know, if you're if you're about to get into a fight with somebody, if you act full blown crazy, odds are they're not gonna want to fight you and you're gonna back off.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: Act crazy.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Easy.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Do it.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, you know, there's people that won't want to hear this, but um, I know that after the wall came down in 89, there were opportunities for some of us in the army uh in the mid-90s to have some exposure and some discussions with some former Soviet uh military officers.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_04: I personally listened to one speak in 1996, I guess it was.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_04: And and somebody asked him, somebody in the group in a very large room asked him when it opened up for questions, you know, in the death throes of the Soviet Union in 87, 88, you know, why why didn't why was there never an attack?
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_04: Why the you know, the attack across Europe that we all assumed was coming, like, why was that never an option?
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_04: And this former Soviet general spoke very clearly, and he said, because we all knew that if we twitched that Ronald Reagan would have nuked everybody.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_04: They knew, like, they like it was this crazy, like they knew that he was serious enough that he would do it.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_04: And I believe the Iranians, to an extent, believe the same thing about President Trump.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_04: Now, all of these ceasefires are fragile in a very fractured government and military as it exists in Iran right now.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_04: It's gonna take a while for people to get the message.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_04: You're gonna get folks like there's already been drone launches towards Israel, there's been some some other you know, drone launches, some other plays, the other directions, nothing directed towards the US, but you know, you can attribute some of that to it's gonna take a while for the the you know the message to get down to the troops, stop firing.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_04: Um, some of it will be reckless, some of it will be testing the waters.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I personally, you know, I I was not a fan today when they had the big press conference, you know, and Secretary Heggs came out and you know, he gave this, you know, kind of rah-rah, we won kind of speech.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_04: I we have very May 2003 President Bush landing on an aircraft carrier and saying mission accomplished.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_04: Umly to be in Iraq in Iraq for another 10 years.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_04: Um I I had that kind of like, hey, let's let's wait a little bit before we start celebrating.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_04: But I, you know, it is what it is.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_04: So um we'll see how this ceasefire goes.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_04: Again, the report that I just saw on my phone that popped up said that um there have been Iranian boats out moving around trying to shut down the strait again.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_04: Um this is like 24 hours, folks.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, 24 hours.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_04: But you know, again, some of that will be testing the water, some of that will be the message not getting to the right people, but we'll see what happens.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, um, it's progress, I believe, truthfully, and I think it's a good thing, but we'll just have to see how fragile it really is and how long it lasts.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: Ultimately, I have to say if you're if you're not directly involved, if you don't have direct knowledge, you know, and this has been my my big talking point, especially of late, unless you have direct knowledge and intel of what's actually going on, maybe just shut up.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean, you know, uh listen, obviously, it's not for me to tell you you can't have an opinion on things.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_01: We all have opinions on things and everything.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's when people come into these comment sections or write these posts of you know, this absolute con, you know, confidence and and certainty.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: And well, you know what they should do, and you know what I would do.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: And it's that whole mentality of, dude, you are in no disrespect to any jobs that anybody does, but you, sir, are a checkout clerk at Staples.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_01: Please stop telling me what the military strategy should be for our, you know, like please just stop.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_01: You sound ridiculous.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I can't take it.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you mentioned uh you mentioned your buddy.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: So let's uh let's move on to him here.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, I gotta know.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: I want to know how you're feeling about it.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_01: So um Hexeth fires the Army Chief for a reason.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Pete just told Army Chief of Staff General Randy George to retire immediately, along with a couple others.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's part of the bigger cleanup.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: So the military focuses on winning wars, not the other stuff creeps in.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: Would you say that is an accurate or an inaccurate statement, Clay?
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_04: So it's an easy thing to say, oh, they're part of the woke crew, and that's why they got fired.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I will tell you that, you know, General George, who I don't know personally, um, I have I've met him, but that's about it.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, he's he's in he's been in the army for 38 years.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_04: Like he I know that, you know, he was confirmed as a three-star under President Trump five years ago.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_04: So, you know, five years ago, everything was okay for him to be a senior leader in the military underneath President Trump.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_04: And because he was nominated and confirmed as the Army Chief of Staff under President Biden, you know, now now he's automatically part of the Wog crew.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_04: So that was the label that was immediately thrown on him.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um by the media, by the media, everyone.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_04: I've seen it come from uh the people like you're talking about, the checkout guy staples to you know the media to all kinds of folks.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_04: Secretary Hegseth has not given a reason that I have seen or that I have heard.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't see one either.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_04: I can tell you that it is very odd.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_04: It is abnormal.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_04: I would, you know, it's a one-off to say, hey, chief of staff, immediately retire.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_04: And so, you know, this isn't new.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_04: Secretary Hegzith has fired a few people since you know he's been in office, you know, taking the post for the last 15 months or whatever it's been.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_04: Uh there's been a number of generals that have succumbed to, you know, whatever in his brain he's decided he wants them to be.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: Is that a is that a uh a pretty standard operation though?
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_04: When a new listen, some of it is.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_04: Um no doubt about it.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_04: There are people for whatever reason, um, you know, maybe they don't align with the administration, they don't align with whatever it is.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_04: It's never en masse.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_04: There are always onesies, twosies without question.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_04: Um, this it seems to be a number higher than normal.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and the day that General George was fired, also uh Secretary Hags with fired the chief of chaplains, so the senior chaplain in the army who's a two-star.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_04: He also fired a second four-star, uh, Dave Hodney, who I I I do know on the fringes.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_04: Him and I had, you know, a lot of path crossing, you know, kind of stuff throughout our careers.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_04: And, you know, he was the four-star charge of training and and uh transition uh across the army.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_04: So he also got fired.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_04: Now, you know, it's uh that's a lot in one day.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_04: And that's a lot of yeah, that's a lot of um like you're fired, and not necessarily like, hey, there's gonna be an investigation.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_04: You've clearly done something, we think you've done something significantly wrong.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_04: So we're gonna suspend you, investigate you, and then you're gonna retire or whatever.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_04: So it's like, hey, pack your stuff and get out.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_04: We're gonna put somebody in your office tomorrow, be gone by the end of the day, um, which is not normal.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: So now, in light of, you know, of course, different different lanes to a degree, of course, uh, in light of, say, Christy Gnome and all of the things that are going on and have come to light with her and her husband and and all of that.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um I mean, that's where it leads me to to speculate.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's something going on behind the scenes, obviously, um, that they are, you know, getting ahead of or basically saying, listen, we're giving you, we're giving you, we're being, we're doing a courtesy here.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: Get out, go quietly.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: All of this is gonna blow up.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever you've got going on in your personal life, we've got wind of it.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta go before this breaks out.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, because I have a hard time, as far as Christy Noam is concerned, I have a very hard time believing that uh the Trump administration, Trump himself, didn't get wind of this.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, I mean, obvious, of course, you know.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: So um, is it cases of that?
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: Is it cases of picking, I don't want to say yes men, but people who are aligned with um so again, the optics are bad.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and I say that because, you know, everybody immediately labeled these folks as the woke part of the woke crew.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah, they worked for Austin, they worked for, you know, the Biden administration, they worked for so-and-so, you know, they're part of the woke crew.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_04: Um the vice chief of staff of the army and now acting chief of staff of the army uh is someone that I've known since 1994.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_04: Uh General Chris Laneve, I've known since he was a very young captain.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and I was a brand new second lieutenant slash ROTC cadet.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_04: I've known him that long.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_04: Um Chris General Leneve was before he became the vice chief of staff of the army.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_04: His last job was he was the senior military advisor to the Secretary of Defense.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_04: So he was very he was he went with Hegzith everywhere for you know nine months.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_04: Wow and then became the vice chief of staff of the army.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_04: His only his very first four-star job, which again is also not normal.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_04: Normally you get a four-star level command somewhere and then potentially move into the vice or the chief of staff job.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, Chris went from being a three-star advisor to the SECTF to vice chief of staff of the army and is now the chief of staff of the army and is going to be nominated uh for confirmation as the chief of staff of the army.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_04: So he's not just holding down the fort, he is gonna get moved in.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_04: So that does present the optic, true or not, it does present the optic that Heggsith is putting his guy into the chief staff of the army job.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and so it doesn't look good.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_04: The other thing that doesn't look good, folks, and this is lost, it's a nuanced thing, but it's lost on in the situation is these folks were not fired by the secretary of the army.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_04: They were fired by the they were three army officers fired by the secretary of defense.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_04: I know folks are gonna say he's the secretary of war, but he we that's a separate discussion.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_04: Um but the secretary of the army did not do this.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_04: So, in other words, the service secretary who really these folks answered to um was bypassed, was not involved in this, was not the person who did it.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_04: Again, so does that um why right?
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, would that, you know, objectively, would that lean towards a they were told to do it, they disagreed, and he said, No problem, I'll do it myself.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: Is that a likelihood?
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_04: Um, there's a lot of stories, again, because one Secretary Heggs has not given any reasoning for this or exactly, but all out of the norm or is that the norm for something like this?
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, this is an odd occurrence.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_04: There usually is something that precedes this.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_04: There is a suspension pending investigation.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_04: You know, there very rarely is there a, you know, hey, thanks for your 38 years of service, package fit and get out.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_04: Like that doesn't happen very often, and especially not three in the same day.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so Dan Driscoll, the Secretary of the Army, um, there's speculation that he has been at odds with Secretary Hegsit.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, there's speculation that uh if Secretary Heggsit potentially gets fired, that Secretary Driscoll is the heir apparent, that he would be the person that President Trump would move into that position.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_04: Again, folks, this is all rumor, but it's all precipitated by the fact that there's been no explanation given for any of this.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_04: And the optics it they're letting people determine, you know, like coming up with all these theories, and they're not refuting anything, they're not explaining anything.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_04: And so when you leave people to make assumptions, um they will quickly get off.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_04: That's kind of what we're right now.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we can continue with uh shakeups here going on.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_01: Well then, you know what's uh you know, not that this is unusual by any means, but it's it it's so quick.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like with Christy Gnome, it was, you know, a couple couple few days of rumors and then the hammer drops with uh Pam, it was, you know, probably more than a few days.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, people have been calling for this for a while now.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, this is not new that people have wanted her out of this position, didn't feel that she was qualified, didn't feel that she was um succeeding at her role, dropping the ball quite a bit and all of that stuff.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, but the the hardcore like whispers, loud whispers, it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: And then boom, she's gone too.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and again, you know, the weirdest thing, Clay, I don't know if you have seen it in your posting about it um or not, but people get like so weirdly defensive.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_01: They did it with Christy Noam, who I said then and I'll say now.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_01: I know, you know, all the things that are going on with the husband, all that stuff.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_01: I never had an issue with her, never had a problem with her, never had a problem with what she was doing, how she looked, how she presented herself.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_01: That was all a big whatever burger for me, as long as she was doing her job.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: I know all of the layers with the husband and potential for blackmail.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: I I get all that stuff.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_01: At the moment, it's irrelevant.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you know, with Pam, I will say um I've always been lukewarm for her at best.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_01: I I never had any strong feeling for her.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I honestly didn't have a strong feeling against her either.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_01: As time has progressed, I have liked her less.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like she, you know, she, I feel like she, I think most of us feel like she made some major, major missteps uh as far as uh public trust, right?
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh of course the Epstein Files is the the biggest uh thing with the with the folders, with the thing, with that big nonsense uh that she that's stunt, it was a stunt.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that was probably um something Trump was not happy about either.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: But uh here here she is.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_01: She is out on her ear.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_01: But people are like coming into the comments section, shared the thing about her being fired, just like I did with uh Christy Noam.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: And people are like, she wasn't fired, she was moved to another position.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: She wasn't fired, she was uh she's going into the private sector.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, she was fired.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_01: Fired.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like if you don't like the word, you don't have to say it.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_01: But you not wanting to say it or not liking it, it doesn't make it not so.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's such a weird thing to do.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_04: General George, those those three generals were all told to retire immediately.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they got fired, folks.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like that was not a you know, hey, great job.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_04: Thanks for being here.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_04: We're gonna move on to somebody else.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_04: They all got fired, right?
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_04: And that's you're right.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_04: Pam Bondi's the same thing, and Christy Noam is the same thing.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_04: And yes, I understand Christy Noam moved to that, you know, position, whatever it is, the ambassador to the peace, whatever it is.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_04: Um, Pam Bondi, very much I'm I'm I'm like you.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_04: Like, remember, she was she was the second choice.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, you know, Matt Gates was the first choice.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_04: That did not go well, right?
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_04: So then Pam Bondi was put in there.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_04: I was never a huge fan of her personality.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_04: Um like she is one of those people to me, and she's a lawyer.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_04: So she liked to be argumentative, in my opinion, for the sake of being argumentative at times.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and and I understand that you know, people say she's a a woman who's been working and thriving and surviving in a very aggressive man's world for a very long time.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, fine.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_04: It doesn't mean I have to like it.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you know that the uh she she's done some things well, she's done some things, in my opinion, not well.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, she clearly has done some things not well in President Trump's opinion.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_04: And yeah, so you know, we talked about this when Christy Noam got fired, that she was the first one.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and we knew we assumed there would be more coming.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_04: Um we were both shocked that it took as long as it did for President Trump to fire somebody.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_04: Um but now we're starting to see some more movements, more dominoes fall.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm sure that, you know, this is his this is his MO.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_04: This is what he does.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_04: Um, he doesn't, you know, keep people around because he likes them.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_04: Um you know, he keeps people around for a lot of reasons, and I believe that loyalty is one and competency is two.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_04: Um and I think that there's questionable, she's questionable in his mind in both of those categories.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_01: So absolutely, yeah.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_01: You know, there's there's all of the things and uh that that we already mentioned the Epstein files, the handling of that.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but there's also a big rumor, I guess we'll call it, that she tipped off Eric Swalwell, uh, which of course, according to the Daily Mail, Trump reportedly believes that Bondy had tipped him off about the FBI's effort to share investigative documents about his relationship with an alleged Chinese spy.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I mean, that's it's a pretty big deal.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_01: That is a that is a direct uh loyalty conflict right there, you know.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: And that's a big no-no.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: That is a big no-no.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_01: So kind of like you said, uh, hey, do your job, do what I brought you on to do.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_01: If you're not doing it, you can't stay.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: And we talked about this a long time ago when when this administration first started, uh, about exactly that about Trump not being afraid to pull the pin on people who were not toe in the line.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, again, uh great example, both of these.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_01: And you know what I strangely like, you know, optically, which is something that people always look at.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_01: There's like two prominent female um cabinet members got let go basically back to back, right?
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_01: And there's people that are going to be like, oh, he's letting the women go.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's no sexist.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_01: He's so, and I know there's people that are saying things along those lines, like, of course he's gotten rid of the women.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he doesn't really care about women, blah, blah, blah, all of that.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, to me, it actually says he doesn't care if they're women, he doesn't care if they're men, he doesn't care about their feelings, he doesn't care about any of the things he cares about.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: Are you doing what I put you in place to do?
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_01: If not, you're gone.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_01: I don't give a rat's you know what about the optics of anything.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, he proves that once again, I think, in my opinion.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he's he's always been just a do your effing job kind of guy, you know.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_04: Um and so, you know, people forget or look past the fact that, you know, his White House chief of staff, his most trusted agent is a woman who is battling cancer, by the way.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_04: That he has kept on.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_04: He hasn't asked her to step down.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_04: That's not, you know, um, the White House spokesperson is a female who is pregnant and approaching, you know, a time where she, you know, it would be very easy for her or him to be like, hey, and and he's not.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_04: That's just not, you know, it's about competency.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_04: Listen, Caroline Levitt is like her or hate her, she's the best White House spokesperson we have had as far back as I can remember.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, absolutely.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_01: I and I honestly didn't think anybody would ever top Kaylee McInanny, but um, this girl is I agree.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, really good.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_04: So it's got nothing to do with you know, with sex, with gender.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_04: That it's it's not that.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_04: It is about competency and I believe loyalty are the two top things.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and again, you're you said it.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_04: If there was suspicion, even a little bit of suspicion, that she went against guidance and she tipped off swallow well, then that alone is the reason why President Trump would fire her.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and rightly so.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's my goodness.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what do you know about Todd Bland, who is uh right now the acting AG?
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_01: What's gonna happen next?
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_04: I I don't think he's gonna fill the job.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_04: I I think he is a placeholder.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_04: Um, there is uh I think you asked me because I I messaged you when she got fired, and uh, you know, uh there's some speculation that another cabinet member who is a lawyer uh that would move over to that position.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_04: I'm trying to remember who it was.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but I I don't think that the acting uh attorney general is gonna fill that job.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, but we'll we'll see what happens.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_04: But I I don't really know anything about him.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_04: I I do know that now now I'm curious because I'm drawing a complete name uh who it was because it was one of the immediate uh headlines.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_04: Uh oh, was it uh Liz Elden?
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Liz Elden.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, uh so there was a lot of you know, he was the first name that came up on everybody's list, and he's been very, very quiet.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_04: So we'll we'll see what happens.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_04: I think he was the odd and still is the odds-on favorite to fill that.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_04: Uh folks, for you, for those of you out there who are gun owners, I I might be that guy.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_04: Um Kim Bondy, truthfully, has not been a friend of the two-way community.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_04: She really, really hasn't.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_04: So um, you know, you may be a Trump supporter, um, but this one I think is uh betterment for everybody uh in reality, as far if you're if you're in that you know, Second Amendment kind of mindset.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, yeah, yep, absolutely.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, what do we got up next?
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, let's talk about switch things over to the other side.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_01: The other side, those guys.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so she's in an early poll poll free fall, apparently, new Dem governor.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_01: Abigail Spanberger in Virginia is already tanking her approval.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's hovering right around even with backlash on taxes, redistricting, redistricting and out migration picking up steam.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, I mean, she started off being their darling um for a hot minute.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_01: And apparently that's that is on the decline.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_01: What do you what are your thoughts, Clay?
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's exactly what everybody expected.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_04: So she speaks out as a moderate surprise.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_04: And it was all a lie.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_04: And folks, so what people will look at is they will look at her approval rating, right?
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_04: Which is truthfully not bad as far as the governor goes, and truthfully not bad compared to some of her predecessors.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_04: Her approval rating is like 47%.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_04: What they're looking at though is you know, they measure it in four categories.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_04: It's like, you know, strongly like, like, don't like, strongly don't like.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_04: It's like four categories.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_04: So she's in the 47% like, but she's in the 46% severely don't like.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_04: And so that's the thing.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_04: So even some of her predecessors and some of the other governors have been in that same 47 to 54 approval rating, but their disapproval rating was like in the 30s, like below 30s.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_04: So she seems like she's got more opposition than many of her predecessors, including Yuncan and you know, some of the others.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_04: So it it's very Interesting because she essentially lied.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_04: It was a big bait and switch.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_04: She came in as a moderate, and as the day she got in, got sworn in, it was like, nope, I'm a socialist, and nope, we're turning all this stuff over, and nope, you know, um, we're redistricting everything and blah blah blah blah blah.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_01: So who could have seen that coming?
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, who would have ever guessed that?
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know it's so exhausting, Clay.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_01: I know how many times a a year.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_01: Do I say something along that thing?
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's so exhausting to be right all the time.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_01: Well, let's uh let's keep that that rolling with uh the other side.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, this guy, mom Donnie doubles doubles down on division.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, he just dropped his preliminary racial equity plan right there alone.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_01: You already know it's bad news.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, more anti-racism training, racial lenses on everything from housing to aid.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, obviously, conservatives in the DOJ are pushing back hard.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so crazy.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Clay, please tell them what you were telling me before we even came on air.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_04: Just today, he came out publicly and said the average household income for white New Yorkers is$200,000.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_04: The average income for black New Yorkers is$20,000.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, and we need to level that across the board.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_04: So he is he is actually talking about um you know the the basic income that's come, you know, that discussion has come a number of times where the city is potentially going to fund people who don't make quote unquote enough money.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_04: He's talking about leveling through taxes, you know, X amount of dollars, taking money away from you through taxes and redistributing its wealth redistribution, folks, is really what he's talking about.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_04: And amazingly, very much like Spamberger, anybody with a brain saw this coming.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_04: And the hilarity is you've got these the New York Hollywood, right?
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_04: The New York uh Hollywood crew uh are trying to connect with him and trying to talk to him because they're the ones who truthfully got him elected.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_04: That's right.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_04: Won't speak to them, and two, it's going against everything that he promised them that he would or wouldn't do.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_04: And the two primary ones are Robert De Niro, wah wah, don't Ben Stiller, uh, who both were champions for Mam Dani elected, and now he's blown off and they're all pissed off.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_04: And it's like, well, what did you think was gonna happen?
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_04: He doesn't care, right?
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_01: Right, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, but wow, who could have seen that coming?
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_04: This is the point where I want Michael Rappaport to walk around and start punching all these people.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_01: I I really do, I really do.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I never really thought there would be a day where I turn around and say, I kind of kind of I I still have a hard time saying I like him, but um I I like his turnaround.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_01: How about that?
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_01: I like the turn, I like his awakening.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_04: Him?
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_04: Like you and I, right?
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_04: Him, Fetterman and Bill Maher.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_04: W three have been shocking in their turnaround in the last 15 months.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you know, and I'm fine with them staying left-ist.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_01: Left-ish.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_01: Left-ish.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_01: I I'm I'm fine with that.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, everybody's got their their lean twos for everything, and so be it.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, I I can at least appreciate and respect when you're able to see through the propaganda and the BS and not be afraid to call it out to your own party because we see how they eat their own.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like we see what happens when you, you know, buck buck the narrative and and um don't toe the line with these people.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I find it really interesting, and I think it's because of their ultra uh aggressive nature, and that would be Mar and um Rappaport, that like normally what happens is is they they get ostracized and tarred and feathered and strung out in the, you know, the flagpole of the court of leftism.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but they kind of leave them alone, like they don't really come back at them ever, which I find absolutely fascinating.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_01: And as far as Fetterman, I I feel like people just don't even know what to say or do with him.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like they don't know whether to dismiss him, applaud him, uh, or be angry.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like nobody just even knows how to deal with him ever.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he is uh he's I don't even know like a great word to describe him.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_04: He's an anomaly, I guess, at this point in in that you know he is a Democrat.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_04: He he does have the you know the the D behind his name.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_04: He has there has been rumors that he's potentially gonna run again when he runs for re-election as an independent.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_04: Um so but he's he, I think actually is the weird thing about him is that he has held the line.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like the line has shifted and he has stayed in one place.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_04: And so he seems like an outcast, but the reality is he's kind of the standard bearer.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_04: You know, he hasn't changed since he he took that office.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_04: So he's interesting.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_04: Rapport, I think, you know, he's he's got the thing that I think Hollywood kind of doesn't know what to do with him is because he's Jewish.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's like you know, you've got that weird thing that's going on in Hollywood where it's like, you know, they you know, oh pro-Palestine, and then you've got truthfully Hollywood, which still to this day is run by you know the Jewish community.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's not a surprise and it's not a shock and it's not a secret.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so like Rappaport, I won't say he's got to get out of jail free card, but he people kind of leave him alone because he he is Jewish.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_04: And then Bill Maher is like he's just got his own show, so he doesn't care.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he absolutely doesn't care.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_04: He can't talk and he and it doesn't matter to him, and people still want to come on his show.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_04: He pulls great guests every single week.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_01: He does, he does, and he pulls from everywhere, like he just doesn't do the echo chamber, and I give him tons of credit for that.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, he's had plenty of uh people uh show him up basically and and kind of wipe the floor with them, and he doesn't care, does not care.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: I think he's kind of high most of the time, but that might be part of it.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_04: If he's in this two-chair, right?
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's definitely high because he's actually smoking on camera.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, he's in that forum where that's like him and there's maybe two.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_01: Right, yeah, he doesn't therapy.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_04: I think he's probably he might have a little bit, but yeah, for the most part, he's he's pretty straight on that one.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_04: But still, that's he gets great guests, and like you said, from everywhere, and they go to toe-to-toe with him.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_04: And yeah, he's he's been fun to watch, it's been interesting.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so you know, New York, Virginia.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, what did you think?
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_01: What did you think was gonna happen here?
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_01: You know, uh we've been telling you this.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we've been telling you this.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's all I can say to you.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_01: We've been telling you this.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't want to say make your bed and lie in it, but you don't have a whole hell of a choice right now.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_01: So you better do some course correcting when you can because uh yeah, sucks to be there.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_01: Just stay out of our beautiful red states.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_01: How about that?
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_04: Don't drag your crap with you.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_04: If you leave, if you leave New York or you leave Virginia, don't drag your crap with you.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_04: Don't California people moving to Texas and try and make Texas look like California.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_04: Don't people moving out of Colorado and dragging all that crap.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_04: Don't be that person.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_04: New Yorkers don't be that person.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_04: Go to Florida and act like Florida.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_04: Like, don't drag that crap.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and if you are in uh Colorado, uh, do you know who Victor Marks is?
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_01: Love Victor Marks so much.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh huge, huge fan of his so far.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_01: We always have to add the so far and everything because you know, life is what it is, and people who are people are who they are.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_01: But uh, if you're in Colorado, if you're a really, really smart person, you probably are gonna want to be on that team right there.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_01: So pay attention to that, folks.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, what else we got?
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, all right.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_01: We've got a good one here.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_01: This is this is very exciting, very cool stuff, right?
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, nice, nice stuff.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, Artemis 2 delivers American Pride.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_01: NASA's Artemis 2 crew just wrapped up their record-breaking lunar flyby.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_01: Humans farther out than ever, stunning new moon photos, and they're splashing down on Friday while the world watches.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_01: We remember this is what we do when we aim high.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_01: I love this.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_01: This is such a great story and great uh moments here.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, Clay, you're probably not surprised about the moment I'm gonna share here.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_01: So ready.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_00: And as we are so far from Earth and looking back at you know, the beauty of creation, I think the for me, one of the really important personal perspectives that I have up here is I can really see Earth as one thing.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, when I read the Bible and I look at all of the amazing things that were done for us who were created, it's you know you you have this amazing place, this spaceship.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_00: You guys are talking to us because we're in a spaceship really far from Earth, but you're on a spaceship called Earth that was created to give us a place to live in the universe in the cosmos.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like maybe the distance we are from you makes you think what we're doing is special, but we're the same distance from you.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm trying to tell you, just trust me, you are special in all of this emptiness.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_00: This is a whole bunch of nothing, this thing we call the universe.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_00: You have this oasis, this beautiful place that we get to exist together.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_00: I think as we go into Easter Sunday, thinking about you know, all the cultures all around the world, whether you celebrate it or not, whether you believe in God or not, um, this is an opportunity for us to remember where we are, who we are, and that we are the same thing and that we got to get through this together.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I I uh I had cut it off already at that point, of course.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_01: But the next part of that was the um interviewer, I don't know who it was, sorry guys, um, saying that was pretty impressive for somebody who didn't have anything planned to say.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: So I guess it was kind of I think he kind of got like handed the mic, the the you know, microphone and was like, here, say something.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, I don't really have anything prepared.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_01: And then he he says that, you know, it was a uh just a beautiful unifying message that you know it would be nice if people took that to heart.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_04: But he's an astronaut, they're pretty smart guys, but uh yeah, you know, I I have this image in my head of you know, like and I was a huge fan as a kid of the movie The Right Stuff and the space race and like I all of that stuff.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, I have this image of President Trump in a very Kennedy-esque kind of you know, like why why aren't we doing this?
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_04: What stopped us from doing just go, just go and fly around the moon, just do it.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_04: I don't care, just go do it.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_04: You know, and he looks at the director of NASA and he says, figure it out.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_04: Like I'm tired laying around, I don't want any excuses, go fly around the moon, right?
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_04: And and I'm sure the folks at NASA were like, let's go.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_04: You know, they I were ecstatic at the opportunity.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_04: Of course.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but I think you know, this is a re-inv reinvigoration of you know, this exploration of space.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_04: I think it's fantastic, you know.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_04: I I think you know, we've come to the realization, most of us, and I'm not but I'm not a science nerd by any state of the imagination.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_04: Like if we're gonna go to Mars, which I know is what everybody's talking about, we're gonna have to set we're gonna have to go from the moon.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_04: Like that's just the way it's gonna have to be.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_04: So we can't get to, you know, if we're gonna go to Mars, we've got to do the moon first, and we can't do that without actually going back to the moon.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_04: So I love that we're doing this.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_04: It makes me feel, you know, like I did as a kid.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I will say that all of us Gen Xers, this is that thing took off the other day.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_04: We were all doing like yes, I know exactly.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like we all we're all so smart from yeah, we are challenger explode in school, and then she was told, go back to math class.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_04: But but it is like this is great.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_04: I I'm super excited about this.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_01: I was such a sheltered kid.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even I don't even know what it was that I actually understood what happened, like what actually happened.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so ooh, oh my goodness.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_04: Bunch of Gen Xers on uh on social media that were like, hey, who checked the O-rings on the because you know that was all that was the reason like it was all of this, like there's so much of that, you know, Gen X type of humor and paranoia, and like uh it was it was a little crazy.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_01: That's Gen X for you too.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's how we handle trauma.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's how we have, you know, like you you kids of today, you crying, go in your little safe spaces.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_01: We make jokes, we make gallows humor.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_01: Go back to class, go back to class, you're fine.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's Friday, you're having pizza.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_04: We're not there's no counselors, shut up and go back to class.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, counselors are so crazy.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, so and yes, of course, we know about the whole toilet drama thing and everything.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_01: I honestly, I don't even want to give any uh time for that because uh other than just to mention that we know uh that it's a thing.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like, uh I don't really want to do anything to uh just take away from the awesomeness and and coolness of this whole event.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_01: And and let me just say, guys, I I know I know who's coming in the comments section to tell us that the moon landing was fake and like can we just not because I'm so mad at you guys.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so mad at your embarrassingly persuasive arguments that I actually had to finally take the time and say, all right, let me just go down the whole list of all of these um theories of how how and why the moon landing was fake.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I put them all in, found every single one I could find, and did this whole long, like stupidly long research mission mission um to figure out like why are they saying these things?
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_01: What is true about it?
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like the process I went through just so I could be confident when I tell you, just stop it.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_01: You sound ridiculous.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's gonna make people mad.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_01: And they're gonna, I'm I'm not gonna follow you anymore.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm done following you.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_01: Go, I don't know, go to the sound studio where they made the moon landing movie.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_01: Leave me alone.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_01: So, anyhow, yeah, I'm just warning you, I am not on team fake moon landing, not with you on it.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_01: You're welcome to try and convince me otherwise, but it's not happening.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, what else we got?
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_01: We got one last thing.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_01: What do we got?
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_01: The comment section.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_01: Pum bum bum bum.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, let's see.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_01: So we got two comments, right, Clay?
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_01: Two of them.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I can't tell which one I'm adding first.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's not it right there.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_01: Hang on.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_01: Why is that coming up?
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I see.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_01: Hang on, guys.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_01: Hang on.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's amateur hour.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna have to give me a minute.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_01: That's what happens when I skip a week, you know.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_01: There it is.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so last week when Clay was flying solo and uh I was with uh the babies, um, he had a segment on uh what was it?
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_04: Who um uh helped me uh transition therapy.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, thank you.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_01: So uh Laura commented that they have the same ban in Canada and she, you know, she this is uh this she's being snarky here.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_01: She says, so you talk a child into being part of the quote unquote trend, but not out of it.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_01: Sounds reasonable.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_01: And of course she's being sarcastic there.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, I you know, I I agree with her.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_01: That's that is the irony of the mindset, right?
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_01: And it's such an irony rich and hypocrisy-rich um topic with with all of that.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_01: Everything, you know, let's face it, just about everything that the left comes back with is filled with easily to break and debunk hypocrisy and nonsense.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_01: So uh thank you, Laura, for commenting that.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_01: You have anything you want to say on that, Clay?
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_04: No, I I think I I didn't know Kennedy.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't either that's uh that is interesting alone, but I love this narcissist.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I do too.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_01: And here is this one that automatically got my feathers ruffled.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_01: So Genevieve, Genevieve says, I suggest you work on weeding out your verbal crutch um.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_01: If you are in the business of professional speaking, um is not okay, very distracting.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Genevieve.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Genevieve.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so you know, Genevieve, you didn't go through the school of um, if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_01: First of all, clearly, clearly.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I, you know, again, I'm always awed and amazed by people who feel so compelled, like so compelled to attempt to make a complete stranger on the internet feel bad or embarrassed or uncomfortable about themselves.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like to to take the time out of your day to be like, I'm gonna tell this person something that maybe might hurt their feelings or make them feel bad.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_01: Listen, I'm not saying that it does because we're we're a big boy and a big girl.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_01: We don't actually care, but it's the mindset that always awe me when people do things like that.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um aside from that, the biggest thing I'd like to say to you, Genevieve, if you can do it better, please do.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_01: Please do.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_01: Please come on, start a podcast, start a program, go do give speeches.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe you do.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe, maybe here's a thought, Genevieve.
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe you could use your great skills to help us.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe you can offer your services, your expert training on how to speak so perfectly as you clearly must, right?
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_01: And the last thing I would say is don't watch scroll.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_01: You like you you can take you take your finger and you put it on your phone, your tablet, whatever it is, and you just like you just do this and then it'll scroll past.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_01: Clay, do you have anything you want to say?
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_04: I thought it was funny.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_04: She thought we were professionals.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_04: If you're a professional, you get paid for this stuff, right?
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_04: Like that's an excellent point.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you and I've been doing this for two and a half years.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_04: I I've been doing this for free.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, it is what it is.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_04: Listen, folks, I I hosted last week for 60 minutes by myself.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_04: I covered eight topics.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_04: If I threw some ums in there as a break, you know, to kind of reset my brain or maybe swallow a little bit so I don't choke.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, I apologize.
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_04: I if it was that distracting, you know, I'll I'll work to do better.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_04: I probably won't, but I I will say that I will.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_01: You're so much nicer than I am.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_01: You see how I went on the attack right away.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, listen, I you know, yes, I am a Christian.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I always like to say I come from the south side of the kingdom, folks.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_01: I come out swinging and um I I honestly can't even say that I'm sorry for it.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like sometimes people need to be called out for their behavior and their their bad attitude.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_01: And that's one of those cases.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, by the way, just to piggyback on that uh a little bit, Clay, um, I am hyper aware because I go in after um after we're done, I do the editing for this.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so if there's anything that needs to be added or taken out, or if we made some major mistake, I will cut it right out, you know, all of the things.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh just a quick run through.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_01: And so when you have to play back yourself, you have no choice but to hyper focus on every aspect of everything wrong, unattractive, stupid, anything that you you have done.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_01: And then you have to uh basically get over yourself and put it out there anyway.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, listen, I don't want to call it bravery or courage.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's reserved for our military and our law enforcement and uh, you know, first responders.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_01: That to me is bravery.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it does take a certain kind of courage to go ahead and put yourself out there for people like you, Genevieve, to pick apart.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I hope that you have the day that you deserve, ma'am.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_01: And anyone else who's I'm not, I'm sorry.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm I'm I'm taking it down.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_01: Taking it down.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_01: To everyone else, thank you for watching.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_01: We love you.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_01: Clay, close them out before I say more mean things.
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_04: Uh obviously welcome back.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_04: Thanks.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_04: Always good to have you back and uh great show.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_04: Appreciate it.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, I appreciate you always, you know.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_04: I don't mind doing a show by myself.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_04: Genevieve clearly does.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_04: Uh uh, I don't mind doing it.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, I appreciate everybody who tuned in and tolerated me for an hour without Elsa.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_04: It's always more fun with Elsa.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_04: Uh so glad to have her back.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_04: And as always for me, uh see you next week and keep moving, keep shooting.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_01: Take care, guys.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see you next week.
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_03: The headlines will change by tomorrow, but the patterns won't.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks for spending this time with us.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_03: We'll be back to keep asking the harder questions and telling the quieter truths.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_03: Until then, stay grounded, be discerning, and we'll see you next time.