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Christmas Recap, Hall of Fame Insights, and Minnesota Sports Year in Review · Scene Projects Sports Network

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  Welcome in to Vikings United on the scene project sports network.
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  I am your host, Bubba Starts, going by my cohost and my good friends.
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  We got coach Cody in the house with us tonight.
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  Big b is here as well.
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  Hey.
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  Our full time cohost on the show.
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  Fully represented now too.
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  Look.
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  I got you on the graphics, b.
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  Sweet.
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  Sweet.
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  Sweet.
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  Love it.
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  Thank you.
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  Hey.
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  You need to send me
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  that one.
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  Send me that one, please.
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  Sir Picasso is back stage.
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  He'll be joining us here shortly.
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  We got a big win to talk about on Christmas Day, a historic win in a lot of ways, and we're
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  gonna get to all of it.
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  We got some hall of fame talk today too.
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  Me and b were going back and forth a little bit.
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  Yeah.
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  A lot to get to, but fellas, how was your Christmas?
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  Go ahead, Big b.
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  You first.
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  No.
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  It was good.
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  I I actually had to work for a little bit both days, our Christmas Eve, Christmas Day.
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  Had the weekend off to enjoy with my side of the family.
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  Had Sunday out to kinda relax.
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  So but definitely, it was good.
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  I mean, we kinda do stuff all year long, so opening projects around here is slim because we
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  do so much during the year.
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  So but it was a great year.
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  How about you guys?
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  Man, mine was amazing.
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  I guess we get holiday pay at my work, so you can already guess what I was doing Christmas
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  Eve and Christmas day.
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  Loving every minute of it.
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  But other than that, man, just been able to see family.
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  I'm the oldest of 14 siblings and yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Half of them half of them here, half of them in another state, but just the fact that I was
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  able to see this whole half, you know, that's that's what holidays are all about.
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  Yep.
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  Exactly.
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  My in laws live in the same town that we do, so we just, went across town.
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  My mother-in-law always cokes way too much food, so I just chilled, man.
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  Was able to kinda put the phone down.
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  You know, obviously, I spent a lot of time online and online and just all that.
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  So it's nice to kinda put it all aside, not have to worry about it, be able to just enjoy
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  some football, enjoy some time on Christmas Eve with the immediate family, and then mother in
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  law's brothers come over and kinda extended family a little bit on Christmas day.
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  But, yeah, I'd got to chill out, watch some ball, and just enjoy the family.
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  So a lot of the same, a rare day off for me.
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  I was itching last Friday to get back in the studio and kinda get back to hammering away.
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  There's just no days off, man.
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  You can't sleep in this media world.
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  And, b, I know I know you can relate there.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, it is tough.
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  I mean, my my coast coast, chat can blow up some days with, you know, people dying.
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  You know?
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  Hey.
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  Did you hear this move?
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  Did you hear this move?
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  Hey.
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  Did you see this list?
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  What's your thoughts of this?
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  You know?
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  So it's it's definitely one that you know?
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  Yeah.
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  In this media world, yes, you know, it's a hobby, but, yeah, we try to stay up to beat
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  with everything.
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  So we have stuff to talk about, especially during games.
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  Oh, did you see that play?
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  Oh, this guy just got hurt.
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  So, yeah, we definitely keep up with things.
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  It is it is fun.
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  I've had to leave some group chats because it gets too much.
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  Yeah.
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  No.
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  I get that.
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  Bubba, I like the fact that you brought it up, you know, being present, you know, putting your
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  phone down.
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  I actually so I got a Wyoming cavalry group chat on Facebook here.
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  And, you know, that I shot him a message on Christmas, and that's kinda what I added to it.
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  Like, hey.
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  When you you get this time with family and friends that you don't get to see often, be
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  present.
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  You know.
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  You know, just put the phone down.
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  I actually told them, you know, all caps, no phone.
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  Just to, you know, just soak it in.
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  You never know anything can happen and, you know, it's just family's a big thing,
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  obviously.
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  I got a big one.
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  So it is what it is, but yeah.
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  No.
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  Just being present.
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  That's what it's all about.
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  Making the memories, you know, whether it be the the grandpa's weird laugh or something like
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  that.
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  Like, that's something that you're gonna really wanna carry with you.
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  So
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  Yeah.
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  And we got, nieces.
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  My my wife's brother has three little girls, and they're only that size early.
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  Right?
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  I I think they're, like, four, two about to be three, a newborn that's gonna be two here soon.
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  Like, they're small, man.
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  And we're just trying to soak that up.
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  You know, me and, b, I don't know if I've shared a lot of my past with you, but, you
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  know, I did prison time.
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  I was gone for two years.
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  Right?
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  And then I was, you know, away from my oldest boy.
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  Like, I lost a lot of that time with my kids.
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  And I I you know, I'm not trying to necessarily, like, get that time back with
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  them, but I'm a lot more conscious of it when we are with the kids and with the family
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  soaking it up.
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  And it shows because last night when they came with their mom to bowling and, like, I get hugs
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  before they leave the bowling alley then too.
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  Right?
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  And just open that relationship with our nieces.
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  It's really important to my wife, and it's nice to get to, you know, spend that time and with
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  her as well.
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  You know, she's been locked in with homework and and working at the school and everything.
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  So it's nice for all of us to just kinda, like, put it all away.
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  Everything's on DND and just to chill out with each other.
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  So, yeah, with that, while we're talking holidays, I know, sir Picasso's got some
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  stories about his holidays.
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  So we're gonna bring in himself.
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  And, what's up, Marcus?
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  How are you doing, brother?
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  Oh, it's good.
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  What's good.
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  What's good.
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  You guys, Merry Christmas.
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  Happy holidays to you all.
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  Man, Merry Christmas, my man.
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  Hey.
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  First off, I would like to nominate his mother for sainthood.
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  I cannot believe you got that many siblings.
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  I was like, you're a poor
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  mom, bro.
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  Oh my god.
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  You know, I've for years.
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  I've known a coder for years.
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  I didn't even know that.
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  I keep a lot I got a lot of tricks up my sleeve.
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  I keep a lot of stuff close to the chest, but, like, yeah, man.
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  It's, it's like that.
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  You know, it's I I always wanted a big family, so, I mean, I got my wish.
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  Yeah.
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  100%.
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  Not yes.
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  I was sharing with Bubba the, so my wife is Persian.
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  And so we went to we went to her parents' house for Christmas, and they're very traditional.
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  So I'm sitting here, like, I was telling him, I go, it's, 03:00.
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  I'm I nudge her.
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  And I go, are they gonna open presents yet?
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  She's like, I'll ask him.
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  And I'm like, I'm sitting there.
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  We're watching another game, and so I'm going, hey.
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  Are they gonna open presents yet?
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  She's like, I'll ask him.
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  I go she goes, he said in a minute.
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  I go, yeah.
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  Game starts in a minute.
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  We're sitting there
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  and then all of a sudden, like so I got to watch the first drive.
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  It goes down to we score.
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  And, like, I tell him, I said, sit down.
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  I'm like, oh, okay.
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  Okay.
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  Like, they're doing the secret Santa so everybody opens one gift at a time.
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  Oh, this gonna take oh, I'm sitting there bro, and then all of a sudden, yeah.
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  So we get the touchdown, and they I think it was her stepmom goes, we should shut the TV
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  off.
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  I what'd she say?
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  And I'm like, now mind you guys, I should have started with I showed up with my white Vader
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  helmet to a very traditional Persian house, and they're looking at me like, well, I go, well,
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  listen.
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  Y'all have me here in his game day.
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  But, yeah, so and
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  then they're going through the things.
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  And, obviously, after we scored a touchdown, they go to their first pass.
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  Harrison Smith, you know, fuck.
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  Shout out to him having a phenomenal year right now.
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  Gets that interception, and I jumped up.
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  I'm like, yeah.
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  I'm so sorry.
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  I am so sorry.
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  I scared half the people to death when I said but I was it was a great game, though.
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  Hey, man.
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  You They love me there.
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  So don't you even even have to apologize for that because then, like, you set the you set
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  the standard.
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  So, like, every holiday, they'll be like, he's watching football.
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  You know what I'm saying?
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  Like, you got
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  it now.
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  Year, we're gonna do
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  it on Christmas Eve just because it works with, you know, everyone.
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  I love it.
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  I love it.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Lots of
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  people just don't understand.
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  No.
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  Yeah?
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  No.
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  Well, then you get some pee you know, I've actually heard going, like, can you just a
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  little bit.
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  I go, lady, half my body's tattooed, Vikings.
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  I I earned this.
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  Thank you.
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  Thank you very much.
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  Enjoy your day.
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  Right.
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  Later.
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  You're lucky this is what you're getting.
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  Give it away.
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  I swear to god.
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  I take this shit very seriously.
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  100%.
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  100%.
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  So yeah.
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  No.
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  So what are you guys' plans for New Year's?
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  Going to Dave And Buster's.
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  Go ahead, man.
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  I'm I'm off tomorrow.
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  We're gonna go and to Eden Prairie to Dave and Buster's, spend some time there, get some
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  prizes.
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  If you guys haven't been there, it's the adult Chuck E.
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  Cheese, I guess.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So we go there and, you know, it's half off.
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  So, you know, we play games, get tickets, probably do a little shopping outside of that.
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  Just kinda chill, maybe catch some stories.
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  So
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  Bubba, you're next.
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  Yeah.
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  We ain't doing nothing, man.
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  We're chilling.
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  We had our holidays.
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  What's tomorrow?
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  Well, I think my wife actually usually, she works on Wednesday nights at the bowling alley
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  here in town, but I I think they're taking they're taking the day off.
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  And, hey, Kat.
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  Stop it.
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  Stop.
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  I'm gonna be
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  wrestling I'm gonna be wrestling my potato chip here.
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  That's what I'm gonna be telling you.
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  Surprise guest.
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  She must still be hungry, man, because she keeps trying to eat my hand.
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  No.
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  I'm probably just taking it easy.
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  I'll be in the lab working most of the day probably.
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  Like, I I took my day off for the year.
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  That was more than enough for me.
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  I'm committed to this thing.
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  Things have really been rolling.
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  All that momentum that we've built up over the course of 2025, and I'm gonna roll a little
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  thank you video, later today.
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  But, man, I just feel like anytime that I stop, like like, it's all gonna come crashing down.
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  Right?
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  There is such a fear of the whole thing, which I know it won't.
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  Right?
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  Like, that we we've built up too much momentum that even if we stopped, it would just run us
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  over anyway, like a cartoon kill, like Wile E.
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  Coyote.
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  Right?
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  Mhmm.
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  But there's just a lot to do, man.
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  There's a lot moving into this new year.
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  We got big plans.
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  I'm planning a big tour with, you know, the parent network getting out on the road, touring
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  through Detroit, Dallas, Austin for South by Southwest, Houston, and, like, it's right
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  around the corner, man.
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  March is, like, already here to me in so many ways.
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  So I'll be on the grind, man.
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  Maybe enjoy some movies and games with the kids and stuff before that.
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  But, yeah, my kids are nine, 10 years old.
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  We ain't letting their asses stay up till midnight.
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  I
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  hear you, bro.
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  My boys are 10 and 12.
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  Yeah.
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  It's like, okay.
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  The clock when the clock hits 09:00, you're gonna pretend that's midnight.
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  See you in the
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  next year.
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  Happy
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  Right.
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  Record the drop the ball drop from last year and just play that.
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  You know?
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  They won't know the difference.
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  What?
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  Nine, 10:00 here is, you know, midnight on the East Coast.
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  Right?
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  So it I might I might let them, you know, experience a little bit, but they don't care
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  either.
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  Right?
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  Like, they're I don't know.
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  I've never
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  It's not as big as a show.
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  Well, yeah, if I'm not playing a show with my band and doing something like that, like, it's
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  it's another day.
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  Right?
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  Me and Daniel probably won't stay up till midnight.
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  You know, something on my bucket list is I do wanna be in New York City at, Times Square one
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  of these years for just just the experience.
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  I'll probably never get there, but it'd be something we've got to experience.
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  We'll take this show on the road next year.
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  Yeah.
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  There you go.
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  Never say never.
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  Right.
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  Well and and yeah.
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  I don't know if it
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  ever falls.
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  Justin Bieber music.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, it just Never seen him.
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  And they're with the, you know, societal climate being what it is right now, I'm not
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  trying to do anything out in public in those kind of big areas.
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  Going to
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  a football game is bad enough.
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  I know security is pretty tight in a, you know, confined space like that, but being out on the
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  streets in New York City with a million, just doesn't really intrigue me a whole lot.
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  My wife's not down with that at all.
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  She was raised
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  I might wanna be down with either.
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  So
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  If I'm doing it, I'm doing it solo or or with the guys.
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  Right?
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  But it would be cool if there was ever a New Year's Eve game, a football game.
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  Right?
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  Like, that would be cool.
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  Right.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  I I got friends that live
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  in New York, so hell yeah.
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  Her jersey.
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  So
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  Yeah.
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  I would, like, watch it from an apartment or something.
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  Like, if somebody had a high rise above Times Square or something, like, if I could do it
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  like that, but I don't really have any desire to be on the street for that type of stuff
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  anymore.
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  I've had my times.
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  We have the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally every summer.
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  And I gotta go to that.
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  I don't wanna go to that.
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  Yeah.
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  You come on out, man.
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  I'll I'll take good care of you.
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  You come out for that.
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  Like and it's a tiny little main street, but it's packed wall to wall.
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  Like, that's congested enough for me.
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  They have 70,000 people out at the Buffalo chip where where we're fortunate enough to work now,
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  you know, capturing content.
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  Like, that's that's enough crowd for me.
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  Obviously, the Vikings games or so but, Marcus, you can kind of attest to this too is, like,
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  once you know where you're going and, like, how to get in, like, I've snuck through the Delta
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  Club a couple of times now.
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  Like, getting into the stadium, no lines, getting in the building.
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  Like, it's a different experience taking the crowd element out of it.
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  I feel so guilty sometimes because I'm sitting there.
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  We're trying to leave, and I'm going, what are you doing?
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  Dude, just take a right.
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  Let's go down here.
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  Turn it here.
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  Like, let's go.
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  And I was saying, I I would literally tell people too, like, if you have it because, you
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  know, when you're trying to leave, people are shoulder busting.
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  Right?
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  Mhmm.
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  But I'll tell the guy next to me.
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  I go, where'd you park?
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  I said, dude, follow me.
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  You know?
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  And he's like, alright.
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  But then the downside is is don't follow the guy dressed as Darth Vader, bro.
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  I can I can stop for, like, 30 fucking pictures every ten minutes?
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  Oh, yeah.
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  So when we went for the Whiteout game last year, Marcus, we followed Gunnar.
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  We followed Gunnar and oh, what's oh, man.
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  Your other.
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  Who had that big ass hat last year?
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  What was your name?
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  He just had a birthday when you guys were down in Dallas.
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  You were supposed to get him tickets.
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  Oh, Eric?
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  Yeah.
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  Eric.
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  So me and we were walking in with Eric, and Eric was fucked up already before we walked in
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  because it was it was a Monday night game too.
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  Right?
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  So everybody's partying, like, all day.
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  Eric's got this big ass, like, oversized baseball cap.
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  He's got the fat hat.
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  He's got the fat hat.
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  And then him
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  and Gunner's been to, like, three or 400 games or something.
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  It was, like, his hundred and fiftieth Monday night game.
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  It's something crazy.
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  Right?
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  So this guy goes in.
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  He he used to walk laps, he said, around the stadium before they built it.
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  Knows all the in and outs, and that's who kinda showed us the ropes as, hey.
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  These are the passwords to get past this level of security and get in.
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  So that's what I did when I went to the last game where I was just like, oh, man.
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  There's no other way to do it.
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  Because once you get so far, they're not turning you back around.
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  Right?
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  So you've gotta, like, weave your way in, avoid the crowds.
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  Once you're in the building, they're like, oh, you can't go past there.
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  You're like, oh, well, my bad.
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  Like Well, we started we started coming in on a side entrance right by kinda off of where we
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  tailgate.
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  Right?
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  And we usually used to come in the big doors because I know the head of security.
• 19:35
  So it's a lot easier when I go to the front to get in because I have I have, like, five I
• 19:41
  don't know, like, maybe sixty, seventy pens on me.
• 19:44
  You know?
• 19:44
  Like, I've we've been to a lot of games.
• 19:46
  Yeah.
• 19:47
  Well, you you're dressed you're literally Darth Vader.
• 19:50
  But I mean, like, when they go, like, there's I literally have my my, my outfit is it snaps off
• 19:56
  the pad for the chest plate so they can see that the pens have backings of know?
• 20:00
  Because you gotta go through a metal detector, and I get you gotta do your job.
• 20:03
  Mhmm.
• 20:04
  But, man, it was so cold the last game.
• 20:07
  And we we just she just wanted to go in the side entrance, so we did.
• 20:11
  And I ended up getting, obviously, pulled aside, and they had to warn me.
• 20:15
  I had to take I had to take everything off.
• 20:17
  So I'm holding the helmet.
• 20:18
  I had to take the strap off so they could see the and it was just a new guy, and I didn't
• 20:23
  wanna name drop his boss.
• 20:24
  You know?
• 20:25
  Like, but at the same time, like, it took me a good ten minutes to get my hands a little warm
• 20:29
  up before, you know, it was cold.
• 20:31
  Yeah.
• 20:33
  Yeah.
• 20:33
  It's definitely a different experience when you're rolling rolling in with season ticket
• 20:37
  holders that know the ropes, and I'm really grateful for that, man.
• 20:41
  It's like the keys to the city.
• 20:42
  Right?
• 20:43
  Like, you don't feel you're not getting shuffled in a cow.
• 20:46
  Because I had, like, walked up to the stadium with a group, and then they're, like, heading
• 20:49
  off, heading towards the back of this longest lane.
• 20:51
  I was like, oh, hell no.
• 20:52
  Hell no.
• 20:53
  Because it was cold.
• 20:54
  That raven that game for the ravens was cold, man.
• 20:57
  It was before we got that warm weather back, so I was freezing, especially after standing out
• 21:01
  at the tailgate.
• 21:02
  Marcus, you guys didn't go to that game.
• 21:04
  You had you had auctioned off your tickets or given them away that game.
• 21:07
  And so, yeah, I was kinda walking over by myself and falling in line.
• 21:12
  I like, oh, I am not standing out here for forty minutes waiting to get in.
• 21:17
  Like, that's ridiculous.
• 21:19
  Well, we were talking about this bring
• 21:21
  a crowd with me either.
• 21:21
  I'm like, oh, no.
• 21:22
  I'll see you inside.
• 21:23
  I'll see you.
• 21:24
  Right.
• 21:24
  We were talking about this weekend, and I'm like, you know what?
• 21:27
  I don't I don't know.
• 21:29
  But then all of a sudden, right when I say I'm not sure, I don't know if I'm gonna go to this
• 21:33
  game, then yesterday, Jay Ward for the Vikings hits me up, and he goes, I need a painting.
• 21:39
  And I'm, well, okay.
• 21:42
  So I usually like, okay.
• 21:43
  Well, what size?
• 21:44
  So we talked about the size.
• 21:45
  We went back and forth with the pictures, what he wants to do.
• 21:49
  And I in my head, I went, alright.
• 21:52
  Well, it's it's gonna be this much, or you can pay this much and give me two tickets to the
• 21:58
  game this weekend.
• 22:00
  Oh.
• 22:01
  But I I'm waiting to hear back from him first for the pictures, but because because I can
• 22:06
  start his painting tomorrow.
• 22:07
  I'll have that thing that I like with what he's already told me.
• 22:09
  It's only three images, and it's on a bigger canvas.
• 22:12
  I can knock it out.
• 22:13
  You'll be walking into the stadium with it.
• 22:14
  Hey.
• 22:15
  I gotta get the
• 22:16
  No.
• 22:17
  I I usually keep it in the car because then after the game, we did with, I can't think of
• 22:23
  his name.
• 22:24
  Bo Richter and, you know, another guy don't play with us anymore.
• 22:29
  But, yeah, last season, I just keep them in the car.
• 22:32
  And then after the games, Bo actually drove to our parking lot, to our tailgate lot.
• 22:36
  Oh.
• 22:37
  So he pulled in and sat right next to us, and then and I told Shelly too.
• 22:41
  I'm like, hey.
• 22:41
  When he pulls in, don't let people know who he is.
• 22:44
  She's like, I know.
• 22:45
  Like and I I it's one of those things you don't have to say, but you say it just because you
• 22:49
  don't want somebody to slip up.
• 22:52
  And, but, no, it worked out beautifully.
• 22:54
  And then all of sudden, I realized when he pulls in, he's got, like, a 2025 Mercedes
• 22:58
  fucking car.
• 22:59
  I'm like, oh, yeah.
• 23:00
  No.
• 23:01
  He works at Walmart, my buddy.
• 23:03
  Like, dude, what the fuck?
• 23:05
  Sorry for cussing.
• 23:06
  So, yeah, I'm, but no.
• 23:10
  I mean, people weren't really the wise.
• 23:11
  Obviously, the crew I was with, the people, parked with us, rode with us, knew who,
• 23:16
  whatever, but it's it's funny.
• 23:19
  Now they meet up they meet up after the game.
• 23:22
  That's if I can get it done in time too.
• 23:24
  You know?
• 23:26
  You'll get it done.
• 23:27
  Oh, yeah.
• 23:28
  You'll get it done.
• 23:29
  I'm so excited to show some of the new paintings, bro, I just did for people for
• 23:32
  Christmas presents.
• 23:34
  So one of which they get this weekend and another one gets their other gift tomorrow.
• 23:38
  So once they get them, then I can post the pictures.
• 23:41
  I mean, I'm telling you epic.
• 23:43
  You know what I mean?
• 23:45
  Speaking of epic, we had some historic numbers put up.
• 23:52
  You sent me that clip.
• 23:53
  I wanted to bring this up.
• 23:54
  There you go.
• 23:57
  Oh, man.
• 24:00
  I mean, who would have thought I mean, you what a game I mean, glad the defense showed up and
• 24:07
  balled out, but to have a minus net of of three or I mean, you had three yards net passing
• 24:14
  because of the sack, Who would have thought you had that on your you know, we talk about bingo
• 24:19
  board all the time.
• 24:20
  Who would have thought you had that one on your bingo board?
• 24:22
  I mean
• 24:23
  Yeah.
• 24:24
  The 1973 Saint Louis cardinals, man.
• 24:27
  A baseball team had more net passing.
• 24:31
  Yeah.
• 24:32
  I mean, Houston in o six, minus five?
• 24:35
  You know?
• 24:36
  I mean
• 24:37
  What was that?
• 24:38
  It had to have been David
• 24:39
  Carr.
• 24:41
  Man.
• 24:42
  Mad job.
• 24:42
  A bad job.
• 24:43
  Yeah.
• 24:44
  That'd be a job.
• 24:45
  Oh.
• 24:46
  I mean, it was just when when I think well, I think you're actually the one that said that
• 24:51
  they had net three yards, and that that's why I went and looked.
• 24:54
  There's somebody who sent me so it's just like, okay.
• 24:56
  When's the last time this happened?
• 24:57
  And it's just like, really?
• 24:59
  It's happened that many times?
• 25:00
  I mean, you know, Packers have done it twice.
• 25:03
  I mean you know?
• 25:04
  So That's embarrassing.
• 25:06
  Yeah.
• 25:07
  Well and, you know, we we'll we'll see.
• 25:10
  We'll see what, this game entails.
• 25:13
  I mean Yeah.
• 25:13
  No kidding.
• 25:14
  I don't.
• 25:15
  B, does the game matter for seeding at all for Green Bay, or all is everybody locked into that
• 25:20
  Green Bay's locked in at seven.
• 25:22
  They wanna lose their at seven.
• 25:24
  Right.
• 25:24
  Yeah.
• 25:25
  Like Malik Willis was gonna start anyway.
• 25:29
  But And
• 25:30
  if I'm the bikers, I'm starting, you know, Max.
• 25:33
  I you know?
• 25:34
  I let McCarthy rest.
• 25:38
  I mean
• 25:39
  Oh, this is my
• 25:40
  hard time gripping the ball.
• 25:41
  That's the big thing.
• 25:42
  So, you know but you definitely gotta get JJ his, what, 47 yards.
• 25:49
  I mean Fifty three?
• 25:50
  Fifty three.
• 25:51
  53?
• 25:52
  Okay.
• 25:52
  53.
• 25:54
  Yeah.
• 25:54
  At least he got Moss's record for that.
• 25:56
  I think that's a big one.
• 25:58
  You know, the thousand I would we had
• 26:00
  He's gonna give 53 yards by the first quarter.
• 26:03
  Yeah.
• 26:03
  On the first pass.
• 26:04
  On
• 26:05
  the first pass.
• 26:06
  Yeah.
• 26:06
  On the first pass.
• 26:07
  Lay it out there.
• 26:08
  Pass, and then just sit them.
• 26:10
  I'm not messing around.
• 26:11
  I'm not messing around.
• 26:12
  I'm not gonna wait until if he get gets to the fourth quarter with 13, I'm oh, I might shut it
• 26:18
  off.
• 26:20
  Well and Green Bay's so banged up that they gotta be starting their whole second string.
• 26:25
  I mean, they're they're most of their team got injured against the Ravens, didn't they?
• 26:29
  Whoever That's why I don't think if they're gonna start anybody, really.
• 26:31
  No.
• 26:32
  Yeah.
• 26:32
  No.
• 26:32
  They gotta try to get rested up.
• 26:35
  Ain't even gonna apologize.
• 26:36
  Ain't that some shit?
• 26:37
  Make the playoffs and then know you're gonna get bounced out first week.
• 26:41
  Going grocery shopping, Marcus.
• 26:42
  We can let you go, brother.
• 26:43
  Some shit.
• 26:49
  I think his service is cutting out.
• 26:50
  Hey.
• 26:51
  That was
• 26:51
  the guy.
• 26:51
  If you make it back, we'll we'll put
• 26:53
  you back on, Marcus.
• 26:55
  You gotta get groceries?
• 26:58
  Cool.
• 27:00
  Always taking us on the road, man.
• 27:02
  I appreciate
• 27:02
  that, dude.
• 27:03
  Hey.
• 27:04
  You gotta do what you gotta do sometimes.
• 27:06
  Hey, man.
• 27:06
  He's I'm blessed that I haven't been out on the road doing this yet because I'd do it.
• 27:10
  Well, because you'd be on the side of the road.
• 27:13
  Well, we saw we saw I got you a picture of your new car there, Cody.
• 27:16
  I mean Yeah.
• 27:18
  Hey.
• 27:18
  That car is that
• 27:19
  Oh, man.
• 27:20
  I gotta find that.
• 27:21
  That Tesla that Tesla with the with the big screen.
• 27:25
  Oh, man.
• 27:26
  If I could, I would, honestly.
• 27:28
  We don't.
• 27:29
  I mean, Bubba, you you know.
• 27:31
  I mean, I know Cody is one.
• 27:32
  I mean, you would.
• 27:33
  Oh, it is a video.
• 27:34
  Yeah.
• 27:35
  It's a video.
• 27:36
  Yeah.
• 27:36
  Isn't that awesome?
• 27:38
  Oh, man.
• 27:39
  He didn't even leave his own bed.
• 27:41
  No.
• 27:42
  You just drive up and you see this car with the big screen playing a football game or whatever.
• 27:47
  I I mean, what would you do?
• 27:48
  Kinda hang back and watch the game with them with slow traffic?
• 27:51
  I mean
• 27:51
  I probably would.
• 27:52
  100.
• 27:54
  Pull up behind them and just follow them.
• 27:57
  Oh, man.
• 27:58
  Playing Madden or something on the freeway.
• 28:02
  I'm sure because I I hope yeah.
• 28:04
  I don't know if people are gonna be able to see it or not.
• 28:07
  Yep.
• 28:08
  Can you see it?
• 28:09
  That's funny.
• 28:09
  So this is what I'm driving on the opposite side.
• 28:13
  You know?
• 28:15
  Oh, I wish.
• 28:18
  Elon much.
• 28:19
  Elon Musk helped me out.
• 28:22
  Hey.
• 28:22
  We're gonna get there, Cody.
• 28:24
  We are going to get there, brother.
• 28:26
  I promise you.
• 28:26
  I'm doing everything
• 28:29
  in my car.
• 28:29
  Your question to answer your question earlier, for New Year's sorry.
• 28:34
  To answer his question, mister Picasso, sir Picasso, for New Year's, man, holiday pay.
• 28:42
  You already know what I'm doing.
• 28:44
  You already know what I'm doing.
• 28:45
  I didn't I didn't have to ask.
• 28:47
  Cody's working.
• 28:49
  Yep.
• 28:51
  Yeah.
• 28:51
  You gotta take it where you can get it, man.
• 28:53
  You got you've had plenty of vehicle trouble in the month of December already.
• 28:57
  If they ain't passing you going down the highway, you ain't doing something right.
• 29:01
  I think I heard somebody say that one time.
• 29:05
  Yeah.
• 29:05
  Pretty much.
• 29:06
  Pretty much.
• 29:07
  And then, you know, we just got, what, eight, ten inches of snow the other day, so that was
• 29:12
  an easy sixteen hour workday.
• 29:14
  I loved every minute of it until I didn't.
• 29:18
  But, you know, it comes in it it's weird.
• 29:21
  It comes to waves.
• 29:21
  You you you get excited for the snowstorm, and then you get tired.
• 29:27
  And then you're like, alright.
• 29:29
  I got my second wind.
• 29:30
  You get tired again.
• 29:32
  And then, you know, based upon you know, based of on the money that you're making, you're
• 29:37
  like, alright.
• 29:39
  Every hour, just add it up, add it up, and then finally, you get spent.
• 29:43
  Luckily, that was hour sixteen for me.
• 29:46
  Oh.
• 29:48
  You're you're a wild individual, Cody.
• 29:50
  That's why I freaking love working with you, man.
• 29:52
  I I know that the grind's never gonna get to be too much.
• 29:56
  Bee, same with you, man.
• 29:57
  You've jumped in with us just kind of on a whim first and now being a full member of the
• 30:04
  organization.
• 30:05
  I appreciate you, and I hope we continue to get to grow together, man.
• 30:08
  I think
• 30:09
  Oh, yeah.
• 30:09
  We definitely wanna lose.
• 30:12
  Yeah.
• 30:13
  Straight I mean, like I said, man, I'm I'm trying to work this into credentials.
• 30:16
  I know the process.
• 30:17
  I'm not afraid to send those emails and to reach out, and and a big part of that was
• 30:21
  having consistent content about the team and growing a fan base around that.
• 30:26
  And it wasn't necessarily like a followers number.
• 30:29
  It's just showing up and saying, hey.
• 30:31
  This is what we do all the time and, being willing to put yourself out there.
• 30:35
  That's what a lot of this world is.
• 30:37
  And, Cody, nobody knows that more than you, man.
• 30:39
  You you continue to put it on and to go out there and to just keep rising.
• 30:45
  And, yeah, man, it's a beauty to watch.
• 30:48
  You do your thing.
• 30:49
  We're gonna get a quick word from our sponsors.
• 30:51
  We're gonna come back.
• 30:52
  We're gonna do the good, the bad, the ugly, talk a little bit more about the Christmas day
• 30:56
  game.
• 30:57
  And then, yeah, I wanna get some hall of fame talk in here because we got a Viking that's,
• 31:02
  you know, on the ballot.
• 31:04
  We'll see if they're gonna get in or not.
• 31:05
  So I'd like to talk more about that.
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• 32:02
  So, actually, before we before we get to the good, the bad, and the ugly, somebody got a
• 32:10
  somebody got a box today.
• 32:11
  Let's go.
• 32:12
  Let's go.
• 32:14
  Some live unboxing here on the show.
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  Shout out to Zach Husted, owner, founder of Pillars of Valor.
• 32:22
  I finally got my coffee in the mail, man.
• 32:25
  Excited to have this and to really start rolling this in.
• 32:29
  So, yeah, we got all kinds of good stuff in here, man.
• 32:32
  I got a sweet hat that's coming too.
• 32:34
  I saw it just shipped today.
• 32:35
  It didn't come with the coffee, but I got a nice Pillars of Valor, ball cap coming in.
• 32:41
  And just wanna shout out Zach and his team everything that they're doing to support
• 32:45
  veterans.
• 32:46
  And, yeah, appreciate them being of this.
• 32:49
  So we got oh my goodness.
• 32:50
  Look at this.
• 32:51
  So I love the names of it too.
• 32:52
  Oh my god.
• 32:53
  This box smells so good, guys.
• 32:55
  Oh my god.
• 32:57
  It just That's
• 32:57
  the one thing is coffee smells good.
• 32:59
  I just cannot drink it black.
• 33:01
  Oh, man.
• 33:02
  Oh, no.
• 33:02
  Me neither.
• 33:03
  Whole bean too.
• 33:04
  So this is the bravery.
• 33:06
  This is a kinda medium dark roast.
• 33:09
  That's probably the first one I'm gonna be trying to be perfectly honest.
• 33:12
  I like a dark roast, man.
• 33:13
  Mexico ruined me, b, because they're not I mean, they put a lot of sugar in.
• 33:17
  Everything's with sugar mostly, but it's dark coffee, dark beans.
• 33:22
  So then we got courage, which is the full dark.
• 33:25
  I'll be getting to that on the days where I really need it.
• 33:27
  What we got?
• 33:32
  Heroism, which is more of a lighter roast, looks like.
• 33:37
  Nice.
• 33:37
  That's that's probably that's probably for you, B, the light roast that you can put your cream
• 33:42
  and sugar in.
• 33:45
  We got a medium roast determination.
• 33:47
  I love the names, man.
• 33:48
  Yeah.
• 33:49
  Yeah.
• 33:49
  I was just
• 33:50
  gonna say those names go hard.
• 33:51
  Yeah.
• 33:52
  This is this is Cody's bag.
• 33:54
  Right?
• 33:54
  That medium roast, not too light, not too dark, just pure determination, and then tenacity.
• 34:02
  Tenacity in there.
• 34:04
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• 34:06
  So shout out to Pillars of Valor.
• 34:08
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• 34:10
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• 34:11
  Yes.
• 34:12
  Thank you.
• 34:13
  We're gonna get to in the New Year.
• 34:17
  Probably wait till the season finishes, and then we'll roll our new segment, the hero of
• 34:22
  the week.
• 34:22
  So if you have a veteran that's in your family, anyone listening to this, we would love for you
• 34:28
  to nominate them.
• 34:29
  We're gonna do a drawing.
• 34:30
  We're gonna try to get a bag of coffee to everybody in here.
• 34:32
  So we're just working out the kinks and how that's all gonna work.
• 34:35
  So give us a couple of weeks, but send in the nominations now.
• 34:38
  We'll probably get some kind of wheel or something.
• 34:40
  I'm sure Bee can figure something.
• 34:41
  You guys have done drawings.
• 34:42
  I'm I'm sure, we can spin a wheel on here.
• 34:45
  Oh, yeah.
• 34:46
  There's an app for it.
• 34:47
  And Yeah.
• 34:48
  Well, we'll spin the wheel of skull.
• 34:50
  We'll get a pillars of valor bag of coffee out.
• 34:53
  I'm working with the operation combating veteran suicide as well.
• 34:56
  Get some koozies and some pins and stuff.
• 34:58
  So nice little care package for one of our veteran heroes out there in our listenership
• 35:04
  and viewership.
• 35:05
  And, yeah, just show some support to fans of our show and do that, and then a lot more
• 35:11
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• 35:14
  So shout out to them.
• 35:16
  Can't wait to make a cup of that in the morning.
• 35:18
  I got it earlier today, and I was like, man, I'm a save save the unboxing for the show.
• 35:22
  Yes.
• 35:23
  Though I could use a cup right now.
• 35:25
  I I figured it was more important to wait.
• 35:28
  And, yeah, man.
• 35:29
  I just gets me jazzed up just smelling the beans, man.
• 35:34
  Yeah.
• 35:34
  No.
• 35:34
  Hear what it tastes like, and, hopefully, we get a little sample down the road.
• 35:39
  But, you know, hey.
• 35:40
  Yeah.
• 35:41
  I saw you at my address.
• 35:46
  But, hey.
• 35:47
  Before that, did you wanna do some hall of fame talk?
• 35:51
  Because that that's huge.
• 35:53
  Let's do the good, the bad, the ugly so we can kinda wrap up the Christmas game, then we'll
• 35:58
  talk some hall of fame, and and we'll take a little look ahead to the game against the
• 36:02
  packers there.
• 36:03
  Obviously, we're gonna have the pregame show back again for that game if it doesn't snow two
• 36:07
  feet up there and go, well, Cody would broadcast from the truck.
• 36:10
  So it's all good.
• 36:11
  I'm not
• 36:13
  Hey.
• 36:14
  I
• 36:15
  I I was surprised I got you the all that information that early.
• 36:20
  A week early.
• 36:20
  That's a record.
• 36:22
  Yeah.
• 36:22
  It's kinda screwing me up too.
• 36:24
  Now it's buried in the messages.
• 36:25
  Right?
• 36:26
  So I'm gonna try finding it again, and it's all good.
• 36:29
  It's all good.
• 36:30
  Very good.
• 36:30
  So Yeah.
• 36:32
  Good, bad, and ugly.
• 36:34
  Yeah.
• 36:34
  So the way I think I'd like to do this is, I would like for each of us since we have three
• 36:39
  cohosts now, that each one of us take one, the good, the bad, or the ugly, and we'll spin it
• 36:44
  that way so that it makes it a little makes it a little interesting.
• 36:48
  It doesn't put all the weight on you, coach.
• 36:50
  You do enough for me every week getting in the keys to the game and our player to watch.
• 36:55
  So this will take a little bit off of your plate, and then we'll have to scramble.
• 36:59
  So you know what?
• 37:00
  Since Bea is our newest cohost, we're gonna let Bea take the good, and then me and you will
• 37:05
  bring up the other two.
• 37:07
  The good?
• 37:09
  Definitely that defense.
• 37:11
  I mean, they stepped up.
• 37:12
  They caused five turnovers.
• 37:14
  You know, Harrison Smith, one pick away from joining the forty twenty club I've been
• 37:20
  hearing.
• 37:21
  But it was nice to see that defense step up when the office really needed them.
• 37:27
  Now let's just you know, we got one more game.
• 37:30
  Let's keep it up, and then, you know, let's just move into 2026.
• 37:34
  But, yeah, I I say the good is that defense this week.
• 37:37
  I heard, Purple Daily, and it was just Mackie and Judd, this week on an episode.
• 37:46
  And they had brought something up that, like, if the Vikings start well, do you possibly see
• 37:54
  a Harrison Smith kind of unretiring or whether he retires this, you know, off season or not?
• 38:00
  I know he's kinda hinted at it, but do you have a situation where things are going well and you
• 38:05
  get a hitman half season at the back half to kinda be that ace in the hole possibly?
• 38:12
  Because, really, I mean, he would be a free agent.
• 38:14
  If he retires, he could do whatever he wants to.
• 38:17
  I don't see him going to another team, but also the rigors are trying to go through the whole
• 38:22
  offseason and do all that where the guy just plays on pure instinct.
• 38:26
  It's not like he's gonna completely fall off over the course of a single offseason and not
• 38:32
  having the training camp time.
• 38:33
  But you think there's any way to that, b?
• 38:37
  I would say if we if we got injuries, then, yeah, I think I think it'd be a phone call
• 38:42
  away.
• 38:43
  But I think if we're healthy and we're running good, I think I I don't think we call a hitman.
• 38:50
  But if if there's an injury, we need somebody, you know, like the Colts did with Rivers.
• 38:55
  You know, you give him a shout out and, you know, see if he's interested.
• 38:59
  And if so, breed him in.
• 39:01
  I know there's been a lot of debate.
• 39:03
  I've been listening to local radio.
• 39:05
  You know, is this gonna be his last game?
• 39:06
  Is he coming back?
• 39:07
  What's the feeling?
• 39:08
  And everybody's kind of all over the board on, you know, what they're feeling.
• 39:12
  So it'll be it'll be interesting off season watching what the hit man does.
• 39:16
  I honestly don't think he's gonna retire.
• 39:20
  You know, he he's had Harrison Smith is one of the luckiest dudes in the world to play
• 39:26
  football just because Mhmm.
• 39:28
  Like, he can go five games, you know, mediocre stats, below average stats, and then pop off
• 39:38
  for a couple sacks, and people say nothing bad about him.
• 39:41
  You've never heard anyone talk any shit about him ever throughout his career.
• 39:47
  Like, even even when on his bad games, people just overlook him.
• 39:51
  Like, he's just how lucky is that?
• 39:54
  You know what I'm saying?
• 39:55
  You don't even have to show up.
• 39:56
  People aren't even gonna talk talk about you.
• 39:58
  But the fact that he's been able to show up these past few weeks and really turn it on,
• 40:03
  maybe that shows him, like, yo, I I still got it.
• 40:06
  I can still play it.
• 40:07
  Like, I'm like that.
• 40:09
  You know?
• 40:10
  And I don't know.
• 40:12
  I just feel like this isn't the end for Harrison Smith.
• 40:15
  I just I feel it.
• 40:17
  Even if it is, like you said, if we're if we're in trouble or, you know, need some you know,
• 40:26
  because of injuries or something, we need, some depth, yeah, he's gonna be a phone call away.
• 40:32
  He he'll come back.
• 40:32
  He's not gonna go to any other team.
• 40:35
  But even if we're doing good, you know, further down further down the season, we probably might
• 40:44
  call him and pick him up just for depth.
• 40:46
  Like, it's it you know, it goes both ways.
• 40:49
  But, man, I I don't wanna lose him.
• 40:52
  I don't wanna lose him.
• 40:53
  Who else we got?
• 40:54
  We got rid of Bynum, Mattelis.
• 40:55
  I mean, we use Mattelis for everything except for d line.
• 40:59
  No.
• 40:59
  We definitely need to find if if Harrison because this I mean, he's the captain of the
• 41:03
  defense.
• 41:04
  I mean, we definitely need somebody to step in that.
• 41:06
  Van Ginkle might be next up in line to be that leader on the defense.
• 41:11
  I mean, typically, it's either your safeties or your linebackers.
• 41:14
  So, definitely need to find somebody to to step in that role.
• 41:19
  Yeah.
• 41:20
  It's almost more of a loss just in that leadership and having someone that can lead
• 41:24
  from the back of the field is so important.
• 41:27
  Now watching the game, it seemed like they were dropping was it by it seemed like Bino was
• 41:35
  playing safety.
• 41:36
  Right?
• 41:36
  Now was Metellus hurt?
• 41:38
  Like, I was there was stuff going around.
• 41:40
  So I don't know.
• 41:40
  Did Metellus get hurt at some point and was not on the field?
• 41:44
  Because it seemed like we were almost playing a almost a three safety, which it's hard to call
• 41:51
  this defense anything.
• 41:53
  But it felt like they were dropping they were dropping three a lot against the lions, and it
• 41:58
  just it looked different.
• 41:59
  Obviously, you had a ton of pressure, and I don't even feel like the defense was really I
• 42:03
  mean, they were out there a lot, but they were dominating as well with the pressure that they
• 42:09
  were creating.
• 42:09
  But it just it looked a lot different.
• 42:11
  It didn't look like a lot of the too high safety that we have been getting most of the
• 42:15
  year.
• 42:16
  Well, last year when we had Bynum, before he dipped off to the Coles, you know, shout out to
• 42:23
  him.
• 42:23
  He went and got that bag.
• 42:24
  He performed and deserved it.
• 42:26
  But last year when we had Bynum, Mattelis, and Harrison Smith, we did run a few, you know,
• 42:33
  dropping three safeties back because Mattelis could come in and play that kinda hybrids of
• 42:39
  Brill Peppers, you know, safety linebacker, but I'd I didn't notice it, you know, on Christmas
• 42:47
  day.
• 42:48
  I was working as well, so I had to run the replay, and I can't see all of it.
• 42:53
  But, you know, we you're right, though, that the safety, you know, safety is that's your
• 43:00
  last line of defense right there.
• 43:02
  And, you know, if the linebacker, the one wearing the green dot, if he misses something
• 43:08
  or whatever, like, your linebacker is calling your d line and your your your d line, your
• 43:16
  defense, and your linebackers.
• 43:18
  But your defensive backs all have a different call.
• 43:21
  You know what I mean?
• 43:22
  So there there has to be that, defensive back that can take over for Harrison Smith if he
• 43:28
  doesn't, come back because that is gonna be huge.
• 43:31
  Communication is huge.
• 43:38
  Yeah.
• 43:39
  Sorry.
• 43:39
  I'm just kinda pulling up some, some snap counts and everything because it was just,
• 43:44
  yeah, it was a a wild, wild look to the game.
• 43:48
  It just looked different.
• 43:49
  I I don't know what it was.
• 43:50
  See, and I wonder if Jay Ward wasn't getting a lot more playing time because it seemed like
• 43:54
  him and Fabian Monroe Fabian Monroe had 27 snaps.
• 43:57
  Jay Ward had 39.
• 43:59
  Isaiah Rogers had 61.
• 44:02
  Byron Murphy had 64 with Wilson and Cashman.
• 44:07
  Harrison Smith at 64.
• 44:09
  So it looked like Byron Murphy was playing that other safety spot because I don't see
• 44:18
  Well, I know in that with that pick that he had, we had talked about it, brought it up a
• 44:24
  few weeks ago, how, last year when he was doing so good is because he had, you know, he lined
• 44:30
  up in the nickel, and that's exactly where he got that pick.
• 44:34
  Yeah.
• 44:34
  I know Mattelis. So I don't know if Mattelis
• 44:35
  So I don't know if Mattelis was on the injury report or not or or what was up with that.
• 44:40
  He had to have been.
• 44:41
  You had you had Byron Murphy junior playing free or playing, you know, free safety,
• 44:48
  essentially, the whole game.
• 44:49
  So a different look than we had seen most of this the the season there.
• 44:54
  And, honestly, it looked pretty damn good.
• 44:58
  I mean, he comes up with the big pick there, have maybe, you know, moving him from that
• 45:03
  cornerback spot that maybe safety becomes less of a need if you keep, you know, if you keep
• 45:09
  Murphy and Smith back there and you get, you know, talk the hitman into one more season,
• 45:15
  that safety position starts to look a lot different.
• 45:18
  You don't I mean, this was a powerful Detroit lions offense that needed to win.
• 45:23
  It's not like that team was laying down, and you made them look like you made them look
• 45:27
  worse than the commanders, honestly.
• 45:31
  So Metellus is on the injured reserve as of thirteen days ago.
• 45:34
  So it was before the, you know Oh,
• 45:36
  he did get hurt.
• 45:37
  I was gonna say, they're if he's healthy, he's playing.
• 45:40
  Yeah.
• 45:42
  Okay.
• 45:43
  I I missed that between the holidays and everything everything going on.
• 45:47
  So he got hurt in the Dallas game.
• 45:50
  Yeah.
• 45:52
  Interesting.
• 45:53
  I didn't, I didn't realize that.
• 45:55
  I wonder if it was something that was kinda lingering and then with everything being what
• 45:59
  it was that he got shot at well, and obviously, Jonathan Grenard getting shut down that week
• 46:03
  kinda takes the takes the headlines and all the talking points.
• 46:07
  Not a lot of people worrying about a hybrid kinda safety position going out there.
• 46:13
  Interesting.
• 46:13
  Yeah.
• 46:14
  I wonder if that's not something that becomes part of it.
• 46:17
  But another thing we gotta hit on is, you know, is B flow even here next year.
• 46:22
  And what does the defense look like sans Brian Flores?
• 46:26
  Right?
• 46:26
  Like, it's a whole it it's starting from ground zero again without B flow back there, but, we
• 46:32
  can save that.
• 46:33
  Let's get through this.
• 46:34
  I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the bad, coach.
• 46:37
  The bad.
• 46:40
  I mean, it it'd be easy to kinda say the the the lions the lions offense.
• 46:47
  I think I will.
• 46:48
  I'll take the lions offense because I'm gonna I'm gonna leave the I'm gonna leave the layup
• 46:52
  for you, coach, on the ugly.
• 46:54
  That that lions offense, which isn't bad, it was number one in the league coming in.
• 47:00
  They looked bad with that beefalo defense just absolutely tearing them apart.
• 47:05
  The pressure, undeniable, coming from everywhere.
• 47:09
  You you got the hitman coming out and doing what he does, playing instinctual football,
• 47:14
  which is really what this hybrid Brian Flores defense, that chaos defense is all about, is
• 47:21
  guys playing with their instincts.
• 47:22
  It's why a guy like Van Ginkle does so well as, you know, is he's not the most physically
• 47:28
  gifted really in anything that he does, but his instincts of knowing the game of football are
• 47:34
  just off the damn charts.
• 47:35
  So, the bad, well, they're not bad every week.
• 47:38
  They definitely looked bad on Christmas day, the lions offense.
• 47:43
  Mhmm.
• 47:45
  Which leaves you with the ugly, coach.
• 47:48
  Alright.
• 47:49
  So I got a few.
• 47:51
  You you already know me.
• 47:52
  I take my notes.
• 47:53
  Nones note takers are moneymakers.
• 47:57
  B, you see it on my Snapchat.
• 47:59
  I I'd be putting in that work.
• 48:01
  But so ugly, I would say Max Brosmer just showing the lack of experience.
• 48:11
  I don't know if it's preparation or your confidence, mixture of both, but that I guess,
• 48:22
  that play in the fourth quarter, you know, we're only up 13 to seven.
• 48:26
  You know, we're backed up in our own end zone, and he just makes the ugliest throw ever.
• 48:34
  Now granted, we didn't have our full offensive line.
• 48:37
  You know, you can make every every excuse in the book, but, I mean, you know that the lions
• 48:43
  coming after you.
• 48:44
  You're backed up into your goal line.
• 48:46
  You gotta get that ball out of there.
• 48:47
  I mean, granted, you know, we're blessed that it was an incomplete pass, but we can't I don't
• 48:54
  want to leave the the, decision in the referee's hands.
• 48:59
  You know what I'm saying?
• 49:00
  Because it doesn't end up well for us one bit.
• 49:05
  Can can I give an honorary ugly to the equipment staff who didn't get the man a new
• 49:10
  jersey after it got torn to shreds?
• 49:12
  Do we only have money for one back?
• 49:14
  He was the smarter that day.
• 49:16
  Like, it's not like you didn't
• 49:17
  know he was gonna play.
• 49:18
  Come on.
• 49:19
  That that's crazy.
• 49:21
  That should be on that come on, man segment.
• 49:23
  You know what I'm saying?
• 49:24
  Come on, man.
• 49:25
  Well, this team would have been good and that happened.
• 49:27
  It would have been.
• 49:29
  Oh, and and that's that's crazy that you bring that up.
• 49:32
  That's so true.
• 49:33
  You know, the the better the team is doing, the more people are looking at the details.
• 49:37
  They're like, everything's gotta be perfect.
• 49:39
  You know, just, you know, but
• 49:41
  that's a big reason why you didn't have any Pro Bowlers this year too.
• 49:45
  Like, no doubt.
• 49:46
  And and granted, this team's gonna finish the season not that bad.
• 49:50
  Right?
• 49:50
  And and that's kind of the shame of it, but you were so piss poor in the, you know, middle part
• 49:55
  of the season that everybody tuned out.
• 49:58
  And that, I mean, that is a big deal to do.
• 50:00
  B, is it all fan voting for the Pro Bowl still, or how does that, how is that working?
• 50:05
  And the game's totally different now anyway.
• 50:07
  Yeah.
• 50:08
  I think it's more leaning to Fanboy.
• 50:10
  I think they do the players.
• 50:11
  I mean, I'm fine with no Vikings on there because, again, we didn't show nothing.
• 50:17
  I mean, if if they had to be like MLB where you have to have at least one person on there, it
• 50:22
  would've had to been our kicker.
• 50:23
  I think it was the sister thing.
• 50:26
  This thing Honorable
• 50:27
  mentioned Jalen Redmond.
• 50:28
  I heard some people say that they felt like he got snubbed.
• 50:31
  I just he I don't feel like he's done it for long enough.
• 50:34
  Yes.
• 50:35
  He's had a good season.
• 50:36
  I think he's tops he's top 10 in a lot of categories that you would look at there, but
• 50:41
  he's not really I mean, he's top five in, like, one.
• 50:44
  Yes.
• 50:44
  He's getting pressure from the interior line, but not a household name by any means.
• 50:48
  And when it's left to the fans, you can't count on one good season.
• 50:53
  Unless it's like saying that I can if the if if it's solely on the fans, then Jefferson gets in
• 50:58
  every year because, I mean, he's the moneymaker.
• 51:00
  But Yep.
• 51:01
  You know, they definitely didn't have a pro bowler this year.
• 51:04
  Like I said, it to me, it it would have been the kicker if I had to vote or would have
• 51:09
  voted.
• 51:10
  It would have been the kicker.
• 51:11
  Yep.
• 51:11
  Kicker or punter.
• 51:13
  Yeah.
• 51:13
  The punt punter wasn't bad.
• 51:16
  So You know you
• 51:17
  had a bad season when?
• 51:20
  Yeah.
• 51:21
  No kidding.
• 51:22
  No kidding.
• 51:22
  And, honestly, I like like, me, I'm not even upset that we don't have anybody in the pro
• 51:28
  bowl ball.
• 51:28
  Nobody really deserved it.
• 51:30
  I mean, it yeah.
• 51:34
  Nobody deserved it.
• 51:36
  Other than the kicker, Will Rikert, shout out.
• 51:38
  You know, you probably won't miss a 27 yard, you know, field goal attempt to send us into
• 51:44
  the Super Bowl or, you know, next round of the playoffs.
• 51:49
  My my second ugly would be just the the penalties.
• 51:55
  We hit some stupid penalties yet again.
• 51:58
  Back to back false starts taking us from three and third down and five to third and 15.
• 52:06
  You know?
• 52:06
  And then that backed us up so much that we had to be in a passing down.
• 52:10
  Aidan Huntresson comes in, has one of the games of his life, you know, and then gets us for a
• 52:17
  sack, and it's just like that took us out of field goal range right there.
• 52:22
  You know?
• 52:22
  It's just just that's when a quarterback is trying to do more than just live within the
• 52:31
  offensive scheme and with you know, stay within himself.
• 52:34
  But the number one ugly I have, and it is what it is, but I just had to put this on there.
• 52:41
  I heard it on K fan.
• 52:43
  I can't remember who it was, but, Bernie Frado in the morning.
• 52:48
  I was working overnight.
• 52:49
  But if Minnesota didn't collapse and have that special teams meltdown in Chicago and we beat
• 52:57
  the packers on Sunday, where it we would have made the playoffs.
• 53:01
  Like, that's some shit right there.
• 53:04
  I don't even care who you are.
• 53:06
  You know what I'm saying?
• 53:07
  It just how this season has gone to have that one special teams play be the difference
• 53:14
  between a playoff.
• 53:15
  Right?
• 53:15
  Like, that's ridiculous.
• 53:18
  That's that's ugly.
• 53:20
  That's cheeks right there.
• 53:21
  That's that's ass.
• 53:22
  Well and on that play, and I don't know if you've rewatched that one in particular, but
• 53:27
  you had two guys abandon their lane and try to go play hero, and that's right where the ball
• 53:35
  came back to and straight up that lane.
• 53:37
  Right?
• 53:38
  Like, and that's I mean, it's a testament to, like, you cannot take plays off and you have to
• 53:42
  play in the system as it's built.
• 53:45
  Like, everybody has to do their job.
• 53:47
  Don't go out and try to do something that's outside of that.
• 53:51
  Right?
• 53:51
  The same thing that you're talking about on that play with Brosemer and the sack there is,
• 53:56
  like, you gotta know when to just throw it away or to stay in your lane.
• 54:02
  And, yes, everyone wants to make a play that sends it there.
• 54:05
  But if you don't make that play, it could turn into a huge momentum swing the other way, and
• 54:10
  it could be the one in a season that keeps you from making the playoffs.
• 54:14
  And I don't think that this team really deserves the playoffs necessarily with the way
• 54:19
  the season's kinda gone.
• 54:21
  But, yeah, it hurts.
• 54:23
  It's ugly.
• 54:24
  Right?
• 54:24
  It's like it almost makes you wanna, like, retroactively go and find those guys.
• 54:29
  Yeah.
• 54:30
  Yeah.
• 54:31
  No.
• 54:31
  I you know, and it's my players know that I don't put up with that shit.
• 54:39
  You you you play within the system.
• 54:43
  You trust, you know, the guy right next to you, and you play your role.
• 54:48
  You know?
• 54:49
  Because would you rather play your role and have, you know, a next time or try to play hero
• 54:57
  ball, play with play outside of the system, make a play, and have that literally being
• 55:04
  determined the determining factor of you being in the playoffs or not, you're probably not
• 55:09
  gonna get another rep.
• 55:10
  You know?
• 55:11
  Like, let's just you gotta be smart.
• 55:14
  You gotta be smart mentally, physically, spiritually, emotionally.
• 55:18
  You gotta be smart enough to know, like, hey.
• 55:20
  Like, I'm I wanna do this, but I just don't.
• 55:23
  Don't do it.
• 55:24
  Don't do it.
• 55:26
  Yeah.
• 55:26
  And special teams were such a sore spot this season in a lot of different games.
• 55:31
  Right?
• 55:32
  That Green Bay, the backbreaker with Miles Price there, which, yeah, he's probably, that
• 55:39
  it's gonna hurt his young career.
• 55:41
  It seems like did they ever say what it was?
• 55:43
  I don't remember seeing what it was.
• 55:44
  He tore his knee up on that opening kickoff on Christmas Day, didn't he?
• 55:49
  I don't know if they've come out with anything because they haven't had to.
• 55:52
  But
• 55:53
  I didn't I didn't hear anything, but all I I just saw that, you know, first play, he went
• 55:58
  down and
• 55:59
  Oh, and was noncontact.
• 56:00
  It it was and maybe they said it was an ankle during the game.
• 56:03
  I can't remember.
• 56:04
  The team doesn't have to put anything out until Earl or this today.
• 56:08
  Maybe it was the first day or tomorrow.
• 56:10
  Tomorrow's Wednesday.
• 56:11
  So they won't have to come out with an injury report till tomorrow.
• 56:14
  Let's see here.
• 56:15
  Who was it?
• 56:16
  My it was Miles Price on that opening kickoff.
• 56:19
  Yeah.
• 56:19
  Because they started the game, and they were like, well, we're going to commercial break,
• 56:22
  and we'll see it.
• 56:23
  I got I got one more ugly.
• 56:25
  I got one more ugly as well.
• 56:26
  Damn.
• 56:27
  It was a win, coach.
• 56:28
  I know.
• 56:29
  But them but them seven sacks.
• 56:32
  Seven sacks.
• 56:33
  Like Oh.
• 56:37
  Like I said, like a like a I've I've made a post.
• 56:40
  I said it.
• 56:41
  It was ugly.
• 56:42
  We got the win.
• 56:43
  We're eight and eight.
• 56:44
  I mean, gotta appreciate.
• 56:46
  Right?
• 56:47
  But yeah.
• 56:49
  And I I actually wanted them to get this far just so we had a chance of being above 500.
• 56:56
  That's gonna help out everything.
• 56:58
  Like, just the small things.
• 57:00
  It's gonna help out the Jefferson situation.
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  It's gonna help out Bflow.
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  You Well, because it's
• 57:05
  been awful.
• 57:05
  It has been god awful this season.
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  Everything that you have had to go through, the injuries, the Wentz, McCarthy, Grossmer looking
• 57:12
  absolutely lost out there, and you're gonna finish possibly nine and eight?
• 57:18
  That's fucking crazy.
• 57:20
  Right?
• 57:21
  Which and I don't know which way that goes now because you didn't get to see McCarthy in the
• 57:26
  last few games.
• 57:27
  Even though he was trending in the right direction, it almost to me gives it more
• 57:32
  credence to going out there and having, if not someone competing for that starting job,
• 57:37
  meaning a veteran coming in, that you have a very capable someone to step in at at the first
• 57:43
  sign of either McCarthy not being ready again or injuries, which, you know, he's obviously
• 57:50
  kinda earning the McGlass moniker at this point.
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  But, you know, I I think if they're in it, he probably comes back this week.
• 57:57
  Right?
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  If this is to get into the playoffs, he's probably coming back and playing in that final
• 58:02
  game and maybe even toughs out this one.
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  But, yeah, man, it it's it leaves a lot of questions.
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  Well, and that that brings up a hot take number two.
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  Knowing what you know with, you know, that Vikings team that went to the playoffs,
• 58:21
  Christian Ponder got hurt hurt.
• 58:25
  Just didn't wanna play.
• 58:27
  But and we had to go into Green Bay playing Joe Webb.
• 58:32
  Do you would you feel more confident with that or going into a playoff game going you know,
• 58:40
  had we, you know, not messed up in Chicago going into a playoff game with Max Brosmer?
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  Like, I thought Joe Webb was bad.
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  Do you know what I'm saying?
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  But, like
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  God.
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  If you were playing for the playoffs, b, I almost think that you'd be trying to sign
• 58:56
  someone off the street right now.
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  The thing I noticed with Joe Webb and, Tavares Jackson is they put up good numbers when they
• 59:08
  weren't named the starters.
• 59:09
  When they came in and had to fill in, they they they balled out.
• 59:13
  So I I would actually if if if it was a playoff spot, playoff game, I'd probably oh, man.
• 59:24
  If I got this roster, I'd probably go with Joe Webb because, I mean, we've seen what Max has
• 59:30
  done with this roster.
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  But, you know, that offensive line is our big key factor.
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  I mean, they could protect and get on time, then maybe Max looks a little bit better, you
• 59:40
  know, but
• 59:41
  Nah.
• 59:42
  Just his processing wasn't fast enough.
• 59:44
  Yeah.
• 59:45
  It's just not he just looks
• 59:46
  went undrafted.
• 59:47
  What?
• 59:48
  And that's If I I don't even know ball that well, and I have to say, rip it.
• 59:52
  Rip it.
• 59:53
  And you're, like, just just not seeing it.
• 59:56
  Right?
• 59:57
  And and that was the same same thing you were having with McCarthy.
• 1:00:01
  Same issues Mhmm.
• 1:00:02
  Where you're just not quite confident, I would say, in what you're seeing.
• 1:00:08
  And it's not maybe he sees it really well, but in that game time situation, he's just not able
• 1:00:14
  to put all of it in there.
• 1:00:18
  Right?
• 1:00:18
  And Yeah.
• 1:00:19
  You know, I don't know necessarily because I'm not a huge, you know, no you know, I'm not a
• 1:00:23
  baller.
• 1:00:24
  As they One thing I get in debates with with people, you know, mainly at the quarterback,
• 1:00:29
  and a good example is this year.
• 1:00:31
  You know, Sam Darnold's doing good.
• 1:00:33
  Well, we should've kept him.
• 1:00:34
  Yeah.
• 1:00:35
  But would he have done the same with this offensive line that we have?
• 1:00:39
  I mean, you know, I mean,
• 1:00:41
  it's Well, we watched him win in the regular season.
• 1:00:44
  The the thing with Darnold has always been when the freaking chips are on the line and he you
• 1:00:49
  need him to show up, he goes blue screen of death.
• 1:00:52
  And I think
• 1:00:53
  that That's the thing.
• 1:00:53
  Those those numbers, does it lead us back to the playoffs?
• 1:00:57
  I mean, this offensive line was terrible.
• 1:01:00
  It was not healthy.
• 1:01:01
  You know?
• 1:01:02
  So, you know, it's hard to say that, you know, Danny Dimes would have done the same thing.
• 1:01:06
  I mean, you know, that's the one debate I get when with a lot of people.
• 1:01:11
  Well, you should've kept this.
• 1:01:12
  Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  But you don't know what would've happened.
• 1:01:15
  I mean, you know, should've brought Aaron Rogers in.
• 1:01:18
  Yeah.
• 1:01:18
  But look what happened to Wentz.
• 1:01:21
  Wentz ain't his mobile, maybe a little bit more mobile than Aaron Rogers, and he got pummeled.
• 1:01:26
  I mean, you know, so you can't easy to it's easy to play that what if game after the fight.
• 1:01:32
  That game.
• 1:01:33
  Right?
• 1:01:33
  Yeah.
• 1:01:34
  Twenty twenty in the hindsight always.
• 1:01:37
  And, yeah, I I don't get caught up into it.
• 1:01:39
  I would much rather play
• 1:01:40
  the what if game of, like,
• 1:01:41
  what if somebody had done their job on special teams in Chicago.
• 1:01:45
  Right?
• 1:01:46
  Well, I think against don't Chicago, and and that's a little bit easier to handle.
• 1:01:51
  Instead of, well, what if this guy was here and that, you just don't you don't know.
• 1:01:55
  Well, you you know, and you go back to that Chicago game.
• 1:01:58
  You know?
• 1:01:58
  And whoever, you know, switch lanes, maybe he thought something that he was gonna get to
• 1:02:04
  them.
• 1:02:04
  Running back sees or the returner sees the same thing.
• 1:02:07
  It's like, oh, he's going this way, so I'm gonna cut this way.
• 1:02:10
  You know?
• 1:02:11
  So, I mean, it it's a cat and mouse game.
• 1:02:13
  I mean, heck, Barry Sanders was the best at it, we couldn't stop him.
• 1:02:16
  So you know?
• 1:02:18
  But it it is a big what if, you know, what if the penalties didn't get called?
• 1:02:22
  What if this happened?
• 1:02:23
  You know, and all this.
• 1:02:24
  I mean, I keep going back to the 2,018 draft and where the Vikings were one game away.
• 1:02:32
  It's just like, yeah?
• 1:02:33
  Well, I would I would have resigned Case Keenum.
• 1:02:36
  I would have drafted Lamar Jackson and rolled with it.
• 1:02:40
  You know?
• 1:02:40
  Am I right?
• 1:02:41
  Am I wrong?
• 1:02:42
  There's a
• 1:02:42
  what if game that changes the trajectory of an entire franchise.
• 1:02:47
  Yeah.
• 1:02:47
  Because if, you know, you have that, you might not end up with KOC.
• 1:02:51
  Right?
• 1:02:51
  You might not end up where you're at now where you have
• 1:02:53
  But but you could've ended up better.
• 1:02:55
  I mean, look at where Lamar's at.
• 1:02:57
  I mean Right.
• 1:02:58
  Well, we'll see if he's wearing a Ravens jersey in a couple of weeks, man.
• 1:03:02
  Like, that's, it's crazy to hear people talk about a former MVP and possibly playing his
• 1:03:09
  last guy.
• 1:03:09
  He's under contract for another year too,
• 1:03:11
  I think.
• 1:03:11
  I think so.
• 1:03:12
  But, yeah, Burrow, I mean, there's big talk, and I I just love how you know, maybe it's all
• 1:03:17
  fan bases that have quarterback issues, but I opened up my social media page, Facebook,
• 1:03:22
  TikTok, whatever, and, oh, Vikings are linked to this quarterback.
• 1:03:25
  Vikings are linked to this quarterback.
• 1:03:26
  Vikings need to move on this guy.
• 1:03:28
  This is like, alright.
• 1:03:30
  We don't need to move on him.
• 1:03:31
  We need somebody young.
• 1:03:32
  We got a young quarterback.
• 1:03:34
  Yes.
• 1:03:34
  He's kinda fragile.
• 1:03:36
  Let's build up the office line.
• 1:03:37
  Let's get this guy and and everybody says it.
• 1:03:40
  Quarterbacks needs time to adjust into this game.
• 1:03:43
  It takes a year and a half to two years for a quarterback to get in there.
• 1:03:47
  He missed his first year.
• 1:03:49
  I mean, he was probably at the practice facilities, but he couldn't run the plays.
• 1:03:53
  He couldn't do much.
• 1:03:54
  So this is his rookie year.
• 1:03:55
  So let's see what he does this year.
• 1:03:57
  Let's go out next year.
• 1:03:58
  I mean, look at well, I hate to say it, the bears.
• 1:04:01
  Caleb Williams looked awful last year.
• 1:04:04
  Got his act together, and he's, what, 230 yards away from becoming the first bears quarterback
• 1:04:11
  to throw for 4,000 yards, leads his team to the playoffs.
• 1:04:13
  So it's all in time.
• 1:04:15
  As as and I hate to quote Aaron Rogers, relax.
• 1:04:21
  Just do it.
• 1:04:22
  With the
• 1:04:22
  Caleb Williams talk, I I still watch a lot of bears football.
• 1:04:25
  I try to keep with the NFC North team still.
• 1:04:28
  And, I mean, he's still not great.
• 1:04:31
  Right?
• 1:04:31
  He's making a lot better throws.
• 1:04:32
  He's got more time this year.
• 1:04:34
  You're also talking about a guy that was the number one pick, like consensus.
• 1:04:37
  It wasn't like, oh, they shouldn't have taken him there.
• 1:04:40
  Everyone was saying for three years leading up to that draft that this guy is the number one
• 1:04:46
  overall pick.
• 1:04:46
  Right?
• 1:04:47
  Because the talent is there, and he can do superhuman things, it seems like, with the
• 1:04:52
  escapability.
• 1:04:53
  But even he, you know, gifted a seven nothing lead on the first play on Sunday night
• 1:05:00
  football.
• 1:05:00
  Was that game?
• 1:05:01
  Can't go
• 1:05:01
  out still can't go out and win that football game.
• 1:05:04
  Right?
• 1:05:05
  So there's still some things that he needs to clean up, some throws that he
• 1:05:09
  misses and the different things.
• 1:05:10
  And you're talking about a number one overall pick.
• 1:05:14
  Right?
• 1:05:14
  And there's a big difference between that number one and that number 10 where JJ is
• 1:05:19
  drafted in that same draft.
• 1:05:20
  Right?
• 1:05:21
  So it's The thing is nobody has a perfect game.
• 1:05:24
  Nobody has ever read, write.
• 1:05:27
  I mean, you know, I mean, they're saying the what if, you know, what if he would've looked
• 1:05:31
  to the right a little bit more or had a guy jumping up and down and could've thrown it to
• 1:05:35
  him?
• 1:05:35
  I mean, you know, it's almost what ifs.
• 1:05:38
  I mean, we're not in the game.
• 1:05:39
  Coach Cody is probably the guy that gets closest to the game that could probably, you
• 1:05:43
  know, what a player is thinking, what a coach is thinking.
• 1:05:46
  I mean, everybody gets second guessed.
• 1:05:48
  You know?
• 1:05:48
  What if they just ran this play, you know, and stuff like that.
• 1:05:51
  So but it it's all, you know, what if and, you know, we and we roll into Sunday.
• 1:06:00
  What's the team gonna look like?
• 1:06:01
  I mean
• 1:06:02
  Right.
• 1:06:03
  Right.
• 1:06:03
  Well and we're gonna get to some more what ifs.
• 1:06:06
  We're gonna come back, and, we're gonna talk about some more things.
• 1:06:10
  Coach is back now.
• 1:06:11
  I'm gonna throw up a little video, and then we're gonna come back and talk a little bit
• 1:06:14
  about the hall of fame ballot, before we get out of here tonight.
• 1:06:17
  But first, just a big thank you from me to all of our fans and a a peek for all of you guys
• 1:06:23
  into the year that I've had and a little taste of what I've been getting into over the last
• 1:06:28
  twelve months.
• 1:06:29
  So we're taking a little break here, and then we'll be right back.
• 1:06:34
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• 1:06:44
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• 1:06:57
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• 1:07:07
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• 1:07:13
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• 1:07:24
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• 1:07:31
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• 1:07:37
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• 1:07:44
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• 1:07:50
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• 1:07:59
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• 1:08:03
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• 1:08:09
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• 1:08:13
  So I just wanted to say big thank you to all of our watchers and listeners.
• 1:08:18
  You know, we're gonna pass 10,000 downloads on the podcast version of the scene projects this
• 1:08:23
  year, working with just some incredible independent artists that are out there chasing
• 1:08:28
  dreams, Cody, and similar to all your players that you've coached over the years, similar to
• 1:08:34
  yourself.
• 1:08:34
  Right?
• 1:08:35
  I mean, in so many ways that you're out there chasing a dream every day, and it's the reason
• 1:08:39
  that you put in those sixteen to twenty two hour days when it's needed and forego sleep and
• 1:08:46
  comfortability, for something bigger and something greater.
• 1:08:50
  And that's why I you know, talks about momentum off the top of the show.
• 1:08:54
  Like, I it it, like, it scares me to take a day off, but I also know that, like, one day out of
• 1:09:01
  three sixty five isn't gonna kill us.
• 1:09:03
  Right?
• 1:09:04
  I I used to take a lot of days off in my life.
• 1:09:07
  Hell, I took two years off while I was in prison.
• 1:09:09
  So, reading books and watching TV.
• 1:09:13
  So I've had plenty of time off.
• 1:09:15
  I I am rested.
• 1:09:16
  I am ready for the year that is coming and, really looking forward to working with you two
• 1:09:21
  gentlemen.
• 1:09:22
  We got a lot of draft coverage coming up.
• 1:09:25
  But before we talk about the draft, we're gonna get in, and I wanna talk a little bit about,
• 1:09:31
  some hall of fame So hall of fame ballot nominees, guys that have done it for a long
• 1:09:37
  time, you know, been in this league and now out of this league.
• 1:09:42
  Some of them returning as broadcasters now, and it's interesting to see, yeah.
• 1:09:50
  You know, BU asked me, you know, who's in, who's out this year.
• 1:09:55
  And, you know, I kinda shot right away.
• 1:09:58
  Breeze, Fitzgerald, Vinatieri is an easy one.
• 1:10:04
  Vinatieri is a South Dakota guy, so I'm a little biased there.
• 1:10:07
  I it's amazing to me.
• 1:10:09
  I didn't even see Eli Manning on here before because it's crazy to me that he's not you
• 1:10:14
  know, is this his first year of eligibility?
• 1:10:15
  He's been passed over?
• 1:10:18
  I think he's been passed over once, but, I mean, I'd honestly, David Tyree, he needs to
• 1:10:27
  thank David Tyree, and he think needs to thank the defense, Michael Strahan, because without
• 1:10:32
  them, he would not even be in that conversation.
• 1:10:35
  I don't I don't even want him on the graphic.
• 1:10:38
  Can we x him out?
• 1:10:40
  Well, and the thing is is the NFL doesn't like to put two people in on the same position,
• 1:10:46
  typically.
• 1:10:47
  They try they try to avoid that.
• 1:10:49
  So to me, I'm looking at it.
• 1:10:51
  Breeze is a a shoe in this year.
• 1:10:54
  I think he's definitely going in.
• 1:10:56
  What?
• 1:10:56
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:10:57
  Breeze is going in.
• 1:10:58
  Yeah.
• 1:10:59
  His numbers alone, man.
• 1:11:00
  It just.
• 1:11:01
  Yeah.
• 1:11:02
  And his and his career trajectory, I think, to a kind of being the high draft pick and then
• 1:11:07
  getting replaced.
• 1:11:08
  Right?
• 1:11:08
  The he get traded.
• 1:11:10
  He got traded to the saints.
• 1:11:11
  Right?
• 1:11:12
  Yeah.
• 1:11:12
  From the chargers.
• 1:11:13
  From the chargers.
• 1:11:14
  Right?
• 1:11:14
  Yep.
• 1:11:15
  Just bad shoulder injury.
• 1:11:16
  That career arc to me and then putting up the numbers that he did and, you know, what ifs.
• 1:11:21
  What if he's not with a Sean Payton?
• 1:11:23
  What if they're not, you know, putting out bounties on gas?
• 1:11:27
  Yeah.
• 1:11:28
  You know, man, that's that's what I'm saying.
• 1:11:32
  You know?
• 1:11:33
  And I'm a I'm I'm a football fan.
• 1:11:35
  I'm a sports fan all around in general.
• 1:11:39
  And I don't even the Houston Astros, the Astros.
• 1:11:44
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:11:45
  Like, I don't give them credit.
• 1:11:47
  I don't get Patriots, they're one Super Bowl, two Super Bowl with the, you know, the the
• 1:11:55
  Flakegate.
• 1:11:56
  Whether it's true or not, the fact that you're even in that conversation, like, I just wiped
• 1:12:02
  them clean.
• 1:12:03
  I I wipe them clean.
• 1:12:04
  I I don't need I don't I don't want either quarterback on there.
• 1:12:10
  Oh.
• 1:12:11
  Either of
• 1:12:12
  them.
• 1:12:12
  Defensive guy, b.
• 1:12:14
  That is true.
• 1:12:14
  He's a defensive guy.
• 1:12:16
  I I do give that.
• 1:12:17
  But
• 1:12:17
  The only reason why I'd give it to Breeze is he was, like, five foot five foot and a half and
• 1:12:23
  three quarter inch.
• 1:12:24
  So he you know what I'm saying?
• 1:12:25
  Like, he didn't even know his own height.
• 1:12:28
  Yeah.
• 1:12:31
  I mean, I'll You kinda question b, you question me.
• 1:12:34
  I said Fitzgerald.
• 1:12:36
  Mhmm.
• 1:12:36
  I think Fitzgerald is a shoo end to me, but, b, you were kind of on the fence about him a
• 1:12:41
  little bit.
• 1:12:41
  What what are your thoughts on Fitzgerald?
• 1:12:44
  I I I like
• 1:12:44
  that, Joe.
• 1:12:46
  I mean, you know, he definitely, you know, stuck it out with the cardinals when they were
• 1:12:51
  bad.
• 1:12:52
  You know?
• 1:12:53
  I mean but you got hold on there.
• 1:12:55
  You got Reggie Wayne on there.
• 1:12:58
  I I mean, I would be upset that any one of those guys get in.
• 1:13:03
  You know, if I'm ranking them, it's tough.
• 1:13:06
  I mean, Hold had I mean, Hold had that one good maybe, year or two with the Rams when they were
• 1:13:12
  the, you know, what was it, greatest show on turf.
• 1:13:17
  Reggie Wayne was kinda consistent.
• 1:13:19
  I mean, he had, you know, Eli or not Eli, but Peyton.
• 1:13:23
  Peyton.
• 1:13:24
  I'd probably go I'd probably go Wayne Fitzgerald Holt in that order.
• 1:13:30
  I mean, like I said, it's tough.
• 1:13:33
  I I mean, Fitzgerald, I mean, could hear arguments, you know, and I wouldn't doubt
• 1:13:38
  anybody.
• 1:13:39
  But, you know, I think, definitely, those guys should get in in due time.
• 1:13:44
  If Fitzgerald makes it great for him, I mean, you know, I I liked his honesty, though,
• 1:13:49
  because everybody asked, you know, reporters, are you gonna go to Minnesota to finish out
• 1:13:53
  your career?
• 1:13:53
  He's like, nope.
• 1:13:54
  I'm staying here in the cardinals.
• 1:13:56
  I'm not going there just for sympathy.
• 1:13:58
  You know?
• 1:13:58
  So
• 1:14:00
  I like that too.
• 1:14:01
  The only thing I got with Fitz is that's that playoff run to lead him to the Super Bowl.
• 1:14:10
  What do you have?
• 1:14:10
  Like, four straight games, 120 yard plus or whatever with a touchdown?
• 1:14:15
  Like, oh, man.
• 1:14:17
  If it weren't for San Antonio Holmes, he's got a ring.
• 1:14:21
  Yep.
• 1:14:23
  Tor like, Tory Holt, he I think he was only good because he had Isaac Bruce.
• 1:14:29
  That's just what I'm saying.
• 1:14:31
  Yep.
• 1:14:31
  I Reggie Wayne, only because he had Marvin Harrison.
• 1:14:35
  Larry Fitz was the the man.
• 1:14:37
  Right.
• 1:14:37
  Who who
• 1:14:38
  I think that makes big difference.
• 1:14:40
  The ring, for a right for a wide receiver or for a running back for that matter, I think
• 1:14:45
  it's more about numbers on that side where for a quarterback, no ring.
• 1:14:49
  It's gonna be tough for you to crack that hall of fame.
• 1:14:52
  It just is what it is.
• 1:14:53
  Right?
• 1:14:54
  If you didn't lead your team to the highest level, I feel like it's really tough.
• 1:14:58
  Not as much for a receiver or a running back in that.
• 1:15:02
  But for a number two receiver, I feel like it's really hard when there's guys out there that
• 1:15:07
  were the man that were getting all the attention.
• 1:15:09
  Right?
• 1:15:10
  Like, you you put up numbers because they were looking on the other side of the field.
• 1:15:16
  Like, you had to put up those numbers.
• 1:15:18
  But, yeah, I mean, those were to to me, Breeze, Fitzgerald, and Vinatieri popped off because, I
• 1:15:26
  mean, they were the man.
• 1:15:27
  At their respective positions in their in their time, there was really nobody else that was
• 1:15:32
  really talked about.
• 1:15:33
  Now you look at the rest of the list, so there's some I mean, Darren Woodson, one of the
• 1:15:37
  best to do it defensive guys.
• 1:15:38
  Just hard.
• 1:15:39
  Is it three or four that go in?
• 1:15:44
  What's that?
• 1:15:45
  How how many is it that go in per year?
• 1:15:47
  I don't I don't follow the high faith.
• 1:15:49
  It's five up to nine or something like that.
• 1:15:54
  I know they got a minimum.
• 1:15:55
  If they don't get five they get a minimum if they don't hit their minimum, then nobody gets
• 1:15:59
  in.
• 1:15:59
  But
• 1:16:00
  Oh, what?
• 1:16:01
  Yeah.
• 1:16:02
  I I believe so.
• 1:16:03
  I could let me let me look quick.
• 1:16:05
  Yeah.
• 1:16:05
  You look that up.
• 1:16:06
  See and so then for me, if there's a fourth, it's it's probably Woodson because I think
• 1:16:11
  they'll probably try to get a defensive guy in there.
• 1:16:15
  And Woodson, like, barely over Suggs.
• 1:16:17
  But, again, with Suggs, you had one of the best to ever do it on the field with you at at that,
• 1:16:25
  you know what I mean, playing middle linebacker.
• 1:16:26
  So it just, like, you know, kind of being that, the Robin to the Batman.
• 1:16:32
  Like, you're gonna put Batman in first and then kind of, you know, the the second fiddle, if
• 1:16:39
  you will, may maybe get their chance.
• 1:16:41
  I think a lot of these guys, if they don't get in this year, that they're gonna be back on the
• 1:16:45
  ballots for next year.
• 1:16:46
  I don't I don't know who's coming up eligibility wise for next year, but you're
• 1:16:50
  usually not adding, like, a massive class, each and every year.
• 1:16:55
  Well and, with with Suggs, like, yeah, he was a baller linebacker.
• 1:17:00
  Don't get me wrong.
• 1:17:01
  He was one of the x factors, but was he only that because people were trying to stay away
• 1:17:07
  from Ray Lewis?
• 1:17:09
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:17:09
  Like, I look at Luke Kickley.
• 1:17:12
  Yeah.
• 1:17:12
  He wasn't in the league.
• 1:17:14
  He was, you know, he was in the league for that long, what, eight years maybe?
• 1:17:19
  But those eight years were productive, and he was the dude on that Carolina panthers defense.
• 1:17:24
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:17:25
  So I look at that type of stuff.
• 1:17:29
  I'd when I think about the Breeze and Eli Manning, I'd probably put Breeze ahead of Eli
• 1:17:34
  Manning.
• 1:17:35
  I don't care about the two rings.
• 1:17:36
  He got lucky for the two rings.
• 1:17:38
  Tom Brady shoulda had nine.
• 1:17:41
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:17:42
  Like, shit's ridiculous.
• 1:17:44
  But I'm wondering, does, you know, does Luke Keeckley do Luke, Luke Keeckley and Frank Gore,
• 1:17:53
  do they get a fair shot?
• 1:17:56
  Because, I mean, they both were in the league maybe eight years.
• 1:17:59
  Oh, Frank Gore was in the league a lot longer, but, you know, does does Frank Gore get a shot?
• 1:18:06
  Adam Vannatari, I'm with you.
• 1:18:08
  I mean, the dude the dude, you know, he every time he lined up for a kick, you knew it was
• 1:18:18
  going in.
• 1:18:19
  You you just knew it.
• 1:18:21
  Yeah.
• 1:18:21
  So so I'm wrong.
• 1:18:24
  It is they tried to set the minimum between four and eight for each class.
• 1:18:30
  So yeah.
• 1:18:33
  So I thought there I thought there was a minimum that they had to reach, but they they
• 1:18:37
  do between four and eight.
• 1:18:43
  Yeah.
• 1:18:43
  Luke Kikulunov played seven seasons.
• 1:18:46
  One, two, three, four, five.
• 1:18:47
  I guess eight.
• 1:18:48
  Eight seasons.
• 1:18:49
  That's crazy.
• 1:18:50
  That's but that's I mean, that's over league average too.
• 1:18:54
  Yeah.
• 1:18:55
  What what's the average time in the league is, like, three seasons if that?
• 1:19:00
  Yep.
• 1:19:00
  They got five five years retired, so that's why everybody was making a big deal when Philip
• 1:19:05
  Rivers came out of retirement.
• 1:19:07
  Now that resets his clock and
• 1:19:09
  That was a smart move on his part.
• 1:19:11
  Man.
• 1:19:12
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:19:12
  He would've got in this year.
• 1:19:13
  No.
• 1:19:14
  No.
• 1:19:16
  Especially if it's like you say where they don't wanna put in two guys at the same
• 1:19:19
  position.
• 1:19:20
  Like, to me, Breeze is getting in.
• 1:19:22
  And and I think a lot of people feel the same way about Eli because that that, you know, that
• 1:19:28
  Giants defense on both of those teams was historically
• 1:19:32
  You're filming?
• 1:19:33
  Like, damn.
• 1:19:34
  Yeah.
• 1:19:34
  I I you're not alone in that fact.
• 1:19:37
  No.
• 1:19:37
  I
• 1:19:38
  You're not alone there
• 1:19:39
  at all.
• 1:19:39
  He's gonna get in because of the rings.
• 1:19:43
  He should he have?
• 1:19:46
  You know, I don't know.
• 1:19:47
  I mean, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be upset if he doesn't get in.
• 1:19:50
  I mean, I'm not gonna cry about it if he gets in.
• 1:19:52
  So But,
• 1:19:55
  hey.
• 1:19:56
  Did we have we brought up the Viking that's on there?
• 1:19:59
  Kevin Williams?
• 1:20:00
  That's why yeah.
• 1:20:01
  That b asked about that too, and I was like, look.
• 1:20:03
  Witten gets in because he's a cowboy Yep.
• 1:20:06
  Eventually, and Kevin Williams doesn't because he's a Viking.
• 1:20:10
  And that's just kind of being like
• 1:20:12
  I think Williams gets in.
• 1:20:14
  I I I didn't think.
• 1:20:15
  Maybe not this year.
• 1:20:18
  But, I mean, there's a lot of ex players in media that really love Calvin Williams.
• 1:20:23
  So, you know, he's got that behind him.
• 1:20:27
  And and him and Pat definitely put together I I don't think I don't think they had the career
• 1:20:33
  if it wasn't for the other.
• 1:20:35
  So, you know, we'll we'll see on Kevin Williams there.
• 1:20:39
  And with Kevin Williams, I mean, you don't you don't get you don't get the name with the
• 1:20:45
  Williams wall for nothing.
• 1:20:47
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:20:48
  Like
• 1:20:51
  It's just hard enough.
• 1:20:53
  Yeah.
• 1:20:54
  I mean, it's hard enough for anyone who's not in the premier positions
• 1:20:58
  Mhmm.
• 1:20:59
  On the you know what I mean?
• 1:21:00
  On either side of the ball.
• 1:21:02
  It's mostly linebackers, quarterbacks, running backs for a reason.
• 1:21:06
  Right?
• 1:21:07
  Because those are those are the people who get the ball the most often.
• 1:21:10
  You put receivers there, I guess, as a fourth maybe.
• 1:21:13
  It's tough to even get this far.
• 1:21:16
  Right?
• 1:21:16
  It's tough to even get to the point where you're on the ballot and then to repeat in one
• 1:21:22
  of those spaces that aren't a premier position, is just tough.
• 1:21:28
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:21:30
  It'll be interesting to see if he makes the ballot again.
• 1:21:33
  If he doesn't get in this year, if if they make it back just because it's so hard to even get
• 1:21:38
  to this level, and now you have a whole another crop of guys Yep.
• 1:21:43
  Coming in next year that are gonna be eligible.
• 1:21:46
  And like I said, I I don't know.
• 1:21:47
  I don't track all that stuff close enough to know who would be coming in to have an
• 1:21:51
  opportunity, you know, to be to be voted into even to be on the ballot for this year.
• 1:21:59
  But, yeah, an interesting take.
• 1:22:01
  Interesting.
• 1:22:02
  How many vote b you had kinda had the the stuff pulled up.
• 1:22:06
  How many votes is it to get in?
• 1:22:08
  Like, how does that all break down?
• 1:22:10
  Just maybe there's some of our listeners that don't understand it.
• 1:22:13
  Said it was 80%, but let me
• 1:22:15
  Yeah.
• 1:22:15
  When you said that, you know, if they don't meet the min the minimum, then nobody gets in.
• 1:22:20
  I was like, what?
• 1:22:21
  No.
• 1:22:21
  Has there ever been
• 1:22:22
  four to eight.
• 1:22:23
  Yeah.
• 1:22:23
  It's it's four to eight.
• 1:22:24
  I thought I thought they had to reach that four pointer or else nobody get in.
• 1:22:28
  So the selection relies on 80% of the votes from a 49 member selection committee choosing
• 1:22:36
  four to eight inductees annually.
• 1:22:40
  So, yeah, so 80% of the vote between the 49 people have to get in.
• 1:22:46
  So
• 1:22:47
  And they all pick between four of the so that 49 people pick four people or four to eight
• 1:22:55
  they each
• 1:22:55
  I think they just vote on all 15 guys there, and if they reached let's see here.
• 1:23:02
  The class is annually yeah.
• 1:23:05
  They don't say if they narrow it down.
• 1:23:07
  I you know, I mean, this is a semifinals.
• 1:23:10
  Oh, no.
• 1:23:10
  These are the finalists.
• 1:23:12
  So, yeah, it
• 1:23:14
  looks wonder if it's like they all pick four.
• 1:23:18
  Like, you get to vote on four, and then you have to have 80% of that 49 vote to get in, or
• 1:23:25
  maybe they
• 1:23:25
  vote on five.
• 1:23:26
  It doesn't really say.
• 1:23:27
  It just says, yeah, four the 49 members, selection committee votes at the Super Bowl.
• 1:23:35
  Approval candidates need at least 80% approval for induction.
• 1:23:42
  So out of the 49, what is that for 80%?
• 1:23:48
  I'm not a math guy, b.
• 1:23:50
  I'm not I I am.
• 1:23:51
  But when it comes to percents, I mean so what is it?
• 1:23:56
  Let's see here.
• 1:23:57
  Let's see if I can figure this out quick.
• 1:23:59
  I ordered my calculator.
• 1:24:02
  They need almost 40 votes.
• 1:24:04
  39.
• 1:24:05
  Okay.
• 1:24:08
  If I did it right, I did 49 times point eight.
• 1:24:11
  I think that's right.
• 1:24:12
  Yep.
• 1:24:12
  39.2 votes.
• 1:24:14
  So so, yeah, almost 10 people have to vote somewhere else.
• 1:24:19
  So and I and I'm guessing they sit there and they debate, you know, everything, and then
• 1:24:24
  they
• 1:24:25
  Right.
• 1:24:25
  You know?
• 1:24:26
  And I don't know.
• 1:24:27
  Maybe they go by player.
• 1:24:29
  You know?
• 1:24:29
  So
• 1:24:32
  Yeah.
• 1:24:32
  And it's tough.
• 1:24:33
  It's tough.
• 1:24:34
  If only four guys are gonna get in, it'd
• 1:24:37
  A be minimum of four.
• 1:24:38
  Yeah.
• 1:24:39
  Breeze, Fitzgerald, Vinatieri, and and this is just I'm not saying these are my picks.
• 1:24:46
  This is more like what I'm forecasting is going to be the votes, but I think it's Breeze,
• 1:24:52
  Fitzgerald, Vinatieri, and Woodson.
• 1:24:54
  If it's gonna be four, I think it ends up going that way just based on careers, positions.
• 1:25:01
  I think that's what it ends up being.
• 1:25:05
  Yeah.
• 1:25:05
  I mean, far, I I like those four.
• 1:25:08
  You know, you add a fifth.
• 1:25:10
  You know, I know Frank Gore has been around forever.
• 1:25:13
  I know the, you know, media liked him.
• 1:25:16
  You know?
• 1:25:17
  I I would say that you're I bet you we're gonna get four to five.
• 1:25:20
  I don't think we're gonna get eight.
• 1:25:22
  If there's a fifth if there's a fifth, that's where Williams gets I
• 1:25:26
  think.
• 1:25:27
  But I
• 1:25:27
  don't think Williams gets in ahead of Woodson.
• 1:25:30
  I think that fifth, if
• 1:25:32
  there was at least.
• 1:25:33
  If there's a five, I think you put it between Keekeley, Williams, and Gore.
• 1:25:38
  Mhmm.
• 1:25:39
  Probably where it lands in there.
• 1:25:41
  Winton was good, but I don't feel like he was, like, historically good.
• 1:25:46
  Like I said, he's gonna get in because he's a cowboy if he makes the ballot again in the
• 1:25:50
  future.
• 1:25:51
  But
• 1:25:55
  yeah, I'm with you.
• 1:25:57
  No.
• 1:25:58
  I agree.
• 1:25:58
  I agree.
• 1:25:59
  I I think Frank Gore gets in there.
• 1:26:01
  I'm pretty sure Frank Gore, I'm pretty sure he's second all time in rushing rushing yards.
• 1:26:11
  Is that am I No.
• 1:26:12
  I think it's all purpose yards.
• 1:26:14
  All purpose yards.
• 1:26:15
  Alright.
• 1:26:15
  Alright.
• 1:26:16
  No.
• 1:26:16
  Because, I mean, you got berry sweetness and Emma Smith up there.
• 1:26:21
  Berry sweetness.
• 1:26:25
  Yeah.
• 1:26:25
  I love it.
• 1:26:26
  I love it.
• 1:26:27
  Berry sweetness.
• 1:26:29
  Well, sweetness.
• 1:26:30
  He's saying he's saying Walter
• 1:26:32
  standard sweetness.
• 1:26:34
  You know, Emmett are your top three, I believe.
• 1:26:36
  Yeah.
• 1:26:37
  Yeah.
• 1:26:37
  Yeah.
• 1:26:37
  Yeah.
• 1:26:40
  Well, that's, something fun to watch if we won't be watching, you know, any Vikings
• 1:26:45
  postseason.
• 1:26:46
  At least we got something to talk about there.
• 1:26:49
  We're gonna start to dig in heavy on the draft.
• 1:26:52
  Obviously, after next week, that's kind of all all we got, for a little while, for a couple
• 1:26:57
  months, talking here.
• 1:26:58
  So I'll be relying a lot on Cody to, educate me, off the show and on the show.
• 1:27:05
  I'm gonna be pretty much just kinda producing, throwing up graphics at different guys.
• 1:27:10
  I'll show we'll have some production meetings about how we wanna shape it all and kinda what
• 1:27:16
  we'll go through.
• 1:27:17
  Maybe we'll go, like, by position and maybe do, like, a top, you know, five at each position
• 1:27:21
  maybe, coach.
• 1:27:23
  Mhmm.
• 1:27:24
  And kinda give our takes each per week, maybe hit one or two positions per week possibly.
• 1:27:30
  How long do we got?
• 1:27:31
  When is the draft this year?
• 1:27:32
  What's the date?
• 1:27:33
  April, middle of the
• 1:27:35
  call.
• 1:27:35
  On that one.
• 1:27:37
  Yeah.
• 1:27:37
  We got plenty of time.
• 1:27:38
  We got plenty of time to, you know, evaluate a certain position group.
• 1:27:43
  You know, the possibilities are endless.
• 1:27:45
  And and, I mean, me and Bea, we're huge basketball fans, huge Timberwolves fans.
• 1:27:53
  I know, North Dakota doesn't have a team, so we'll have
• 1:27:56
  to I'm in South Dakota, but also
• 1:27:58
  South Dakota.
• 1:27:59
  Yes.
• 1:28:00
  And we will never have a team.
• 1:28:02
  Yeah.
• 1:28:03
  We got baseball coming up.
• 1:28:04
  And
• 1:28:05
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:28:06
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:28:06
  So
• 1:28:07
  we Hey.
• 1:28:07
  We're all about covering other things on here too, so maybe we will divest.
• 1:28:12
  I know a big hockey fan, I am as well.
• 1:28:15
  Wilder having a hell of a season this year.
• 1:28:17
  So we can divert some attention into some of the other sports and and cover those things and
• 1:28:23
  at least talk a little bit about them.
• 1:28:25
  And, yeah, I'm down for whatever, man.
• 1:28:27
  The the No.
• 1:28:28
  I got
• 1:28:28
  a I question.
• 1:28:29
  With you guys.
• 1:28:30
  I I am more than happy to take advantage of.
• 1:28:32
  Yeah.
• 1:28:33
  I got a question here that I've been thinking about all day to ask, you know, the coach of
• 1:28:38
  the staff.
• 1:28:39
  You know, what's the locker room like at the end of the season here?
• 1:28:45
  The Vikings had a rough season.
• 1:28:47
  What do you tell your players?
• 1:28:48
  What do you tell your coaches?
• 1:28:49
  I mean, you know, is it go home, take a vacation, come back in a month or two, let's
• 1:28:55
  rehash?
• 1:28:55
  I mean, what what would you tell your team if you're in that locker room for Minnesota or
• 1:29:01
  anything that struggled this year?
• 1:29:03
  Well, honestly, I mean, it's as simple as I break it down kinda like Bubba did earlier in
• 1:29:10
  the on this on this podcast is, you know, there's even on Christmas and Thanksgiving, you
• 1:29:18
  know, it's hard to take that day off.
• 1:29:21
  And I'm I'm a firm believer in stacking days.
• 1:29:24
  If you can stack 21 in a row, you make a habit, and then it's game on from there.
• 1:29:29
  And so that's why I kind of I I it's hard for me to take a day off because, I mean, it's
• 1:29:37
  nothing to take a day off when you're on day 15, but when you're on day, like, 700 and
• 1:29:42
  something, that's a streak you're not trying to break.
• 1:29:44
  You feel me?
• 1:29:46
  So I just tell them, and I brought this up on, you know, the past few weeks, but we got a
• 1:29:51
  winning streak going.
• 1:29:52
  Yep.
• 1:29:53
  You know?
• 1:29:54
  So I just, you know, I let them I let them know, like, hey, Jefferson.
• 1:29:59
  You know, we didn't have the season that we wanted, didn't make the playoffs, this and
• 1:30:02
  that, but you broke record a, b, and c.
• 1:30:06
  You know?
• 1:30:06
  We did you know, after everything that happened, you still were able to break a, b,
• 1:30:11
  and c records.
• 1:30:13
  So that's that's a plus.
• 1:30:15
  And just going into the year on that winning streak, I mean, that carries.
• 1:30:20
  That that momentum, that carries over.
• 1:30:23
  I know it's a long time, and you you got the draft and, you know, rookie minning camp, OTAs,
• 1:30:30
  all that preseason.
• 1:30:32
  And it's just, you know, you gotta that that momentum will carry over into the next one.
• 1:30:40
  You get those guys will come into the building and be like, alright.
• 1:30:44
  You know, business as usual.
• 1:30:45
  It it doesn't even feel like that long.
• 1:30:49
  You know, it it almost feels like a, you know, blink of an eye and you're back at training
• 1:30:54
  camp with your family, quote unquote.
• 1:30:57
  So I you know, in in the locker room, no one, Jackson Dart said it in an interview.
• 1:31:03
  They interviewed him after this win against the Raiders.
• 1:31:07
  They're this win last week.
• 1:31:10
  And they're like, hey.
• 1:31:11
  You know?
• 1:31:12
  What do you what are your thoughts on the fans thinking about the draft pick and this and
• 1:31:17
  that?
• 1:31:17
  Because they were playing for the number one draft pick.
• 1:31:19
  Mhmm.
• 1:31:19
  And he's like, we don't give a shit about that.
• 1:31:21
  We're just trying to win.
• 1:31:22
  Yep.
• 1:31:22
  You know?
• 1:31:23
  And that's a real thing.
• 1:31:24
  It doesn't matter what your record is.
• 1:31:25
  It doesn't matter if you're winless.
• 1:31:27
  You you're just trying to get that first win.
• 1:31:30
  Yeah.
• 1:31:30
  You know, when it comes down to it.
• 1:31:32
  So I the message in that locker room for me, I'd be like, hey, man.
• 1:31:36
  Like, we had an up and down season.
• 1:31:38
  It is what it is, but we're you know, we we found ourselves.
• 1:31:43
  We're doing we're doing our thing, and we're on a streak right now.
• 1:31:47
  Let's let's just build off that.
• 1:31:49
  All you can do is build off momentum.
• 1:31:52
  You know?
• 1:31:53
  Energy can't be created.
• 1:31:55
  It can only be transferred.
• 1:31:57
  You know?
• 1:31:58
  It's we've all known this from day one, basically.
• 1:32:01
  So you just you keep that positivity going around the building and for as long as you can.
• 1:32:09
  You know?
• 1:32:09
  Momentum is hard to build, hard to gain, and when you do, it's even harder to keep.
• 1:32:16
  And that's the key right there is to keep it.
• 1:32:18
  And it's so easy to lose.
• 1:32:19
  That's why I'm so scared to take a day off.
• 1:32:22
  Exactly.
• 1:32:23
  Exactly.
• 1:32:23
  Well, and that and that's the thing.
• 1:32:25
  Like, you can you you can that's that that's why I'm so, like, gung ho about working and
• 1:32:32
  just, you know, doing not taking a day off necessarily just because I wanna keep that
• 1:32:38
  streak going.
• 1:32:40
  You know?
• 1:32:41
  Yeah.
• 1:32:42
  Who wants to ruin a seven hundred plus day streak?
• 1:32:45
  You know, that's a that's a long time.
• 1:32:48
  You've ruined that.
• 1:32:49
  Most people are like, fuck it.
• 1:32:51
  I don't wanna do it again.
• 1:32:53
  I'm like, hey.
• 1:32:55
  Let's try it again.
• 1:32:57
  Good.
• 1:32:58
  Good answer.
• 1:32:59
  Because I was just kinda thinking this is like, hey.
• 1:33:01
  Is is KLC gonna go in after the game or that Monday after the Packer game and be like,
• 1:33:06
  alright, guys.
• 1:33:07
  Let's, you know, let's take a few weeks off.
• 1:33:10
  Let's regroup.
• 1:33:11
  Let's not take football and then come back, and let's dive into what we need, what our needs
• 1:33:16
  are.
• 1:33:16
  But, you know, you laid it out good, you know.
• 1:33:19
  You know, when it loop us, you know, take what we had in the last few weeks, let's get right
• 1:33:24
  into it, and let's see where we can make this team better and and so we're not struggling
• 1:33:30
  next year.
• 1:33:30
  So no.
• 1:33:31
  You know?
• 1:33:31
  And and I I I like that I I like that approach, and that that mentality just because, I mean,
• 1:33:40
  most people, start their New Year's resolution here coming up on the first.
• 1:33:45
  Yeah.
• 1:33:47
  You know?
• 1:33:47
  And then they give up, you know, by day 14 or by day three or something like that.
• 1:33:53
  Well, why can't I'm I'm on the why can't you start the your New Year's resolution before
• 1:34:00
  2026?
• 1:34:01
  Get that twenty one days in.
• 1:34:04
  Build that habit.
• 1:34:05
  That way, you're running into 2026 full momentum.
• 1:34:09
  You know, I I feel I my personal opinion is average people start their 2026 on Jan first.
• 1:34:19
  I'm not average, so I'm gonna start it before then.
• 1:34:22
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:34:23
  So Yeah.
• 1:34:24
  My my New Year's resolutions kicked in in October.
• 1:34:27
  Yeah.
• 1:34:28
  Yeah.
• 1:34:28
  Like, he I mean, if you don't if you don't have your 2025, reflection done, if you don't have
• 1:34:35
  your three w's, you know, what did you do right, what didn't you do right, what can you
• 1:34:40
  do better.
• 1:34:41
  If you don't have that done, if you don't have your goals for 2026 done by now or tomorrow,
• 1:34:48
  if, you know, if you don't have your successful people I I was told once successful people have
• 1:34:53
  their whole year planned out.
• 1:34:58
  And so it's like, well, shit.
• 1:35:00
  That makes sense.
• 1:35:01
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:35:02
  They're they're that busy.
• 1:35:03
  They're that into it that they're that, you know, that they have to, you know, plan and
• 1:35:09
  organize like that.
• 1:35:10
  So that's that's basically how I try to run things.
• 1:35:15
  Alright.
• 1:35:17
  Yeah.
• 1:35:17
  And I think that, you know, minus a couple of cap casualties, you have a lot of this team
• 1:35:23
  back next year.
• 1:35:24
  So it's not like you're gonna see a huge turnover now.
• 1:35:28
  Obviously, we kinda talked about it at the beginning of the show, you know, about beefalo
• 1:35:34
  because that's your I mean, to me, even bigger than quarterback is is this man gonna be back?
• 1:35:42
  Right?
• 1:35:43
  Is this man going to be here?
• 1:35:45
  And I know there's been a lot of talk about, especially this week.
• 1:35:48
  Shout out to bring me the news.
• 1:35:49
  I stole this graphic from him, but there's a lot of talk about my personal situation in next
• 1:35:54
  year.
• 1:35:54
  I've said this many times.
• 1:35:55
  I've loved my time here in Minnesota.
• 1:35:57
  My family loves it.
• 1:35:58
  The state of Minnesota has been tremendous to me.
• 1:36:01
  I know KOC mentioned there has been great dialogue, and there has been.
• 1:36:05
  And, something that Jud and Mackie kinda hit on too is that there's such a juxtaposition
• 1:36:10
  between kind of the hard ass that Bflow is that don't take no shit attitude, and KOC is more
• 1:36:17
  kind of, and not that KOC takes a lot of shit, right, or he's a pushover, but they have a
• 1:36:23
  different different way of operating.
• 1:36:25
  And it, I mean, it really feels like it works well together.
• 1:36:30
  Right?
• 1:36:31
  And I I don't know.
• 1:36:32
  I mean, obviously, the man's gonna shop around.
• 1:36:35
  Right?
• 1:36:35
  He's gonna go out there, and he's gonna see what he's worth on the open market.
• 1:36:39
  I don't know if he's going to get the head coaching job.
• 1:36:43
  And if it is a job, if it's something that he wants to take when he can be generational here
• 1:36:50
  and maybe build a Super Bowl.
• 1:36:52
  And if you can go nine and eight with the season that they've had in Minnesota this year,
• 1:36:57
  what can you do next year?
• 1:36:59
  Right?
• 1:37:00
  I mean, like, to me, this team is still going in going, we should have been a playoff team in
• 1:37:05
  2025, and the expectation is playoffs in 2026, to to start.
• 1:37:14
  If you're I mean, I don't wanna put the Super Bowl expectation out there because I don't
• 1:37:17
  think that that's quite there.
• 1:37:19
  I think they kinda maybe learned their lesson from coming in a little too high and and kinda
• 1:37:24
  spelling their own shit a little bit too much going through training camp this summer.
• 1:37:28
  I think you're gonna see a different training camp and preseason probably getting a little
• 1:37:33
  bit more of reps for the young guys who need it.
• 1:37:37
  And and I I think you're gonna see a little bit different look at the beginning of the season
• 1:37:42
  than you did because KOC is gonna realize that, hey.
• 1:37:45
  We're there's no coasting about this.
• 1:37:47
  Those first few seasons went really well, and, things were really rosy, and you had the double
• 1:37:54
  digit wins.
• 1:37:55
  Well, you didn't get there this year.
• 1:37:57
  So there's work to be done going in, and I I think you come in with a more motivated team
• 1:38:03
  from top to bottom next year that maybe feels like they missed out a little bit this year and
• 1:38:10
  duly.
• 1:38:11
  Yeah.
• 1:38:12
  No.
• 1:38:12
  I I agree with that a 100%.
• 1:38:14
  I mean, you know, when we had the this just this year just shows you how important it is to
• 1:38:21
  have a starting quarterback, a number one true starting quarterback.
• 1:38:25
  You know, it there's only slim pickings of those, and then you get to the second string,
• 1:38:31
  and there's maybe a handful of those that can be actual second string quarterbacks.
• 1:38:36
  You know, in KOC, the past couple years, you know, he had Kirk Cousins, and he was able to
• 1:38:42
  you know?
• 1:38:43
  And Sam Darnold, and he was able to make magic happen with those.
• 1:38:47
  But now you know?
• 1:38:49
  And he didn't he needed, he needed Flores for a little bit, but he didn't really need Flores.
• 1:38:55
  Well, now this year, he's like, shit.
• 1:38:57
  I mean, if I didn't have Flores, we're looking at probably a three in whatever season.
• 1:39:02
  You feel me?
• 1:39:03
  Like, our defense really came in and saved our ass this year.
• 1:39:09
  And I've I made a post about this.
• 1:39:10
  I'm like, you give Flores a blank check, and you pay him like a you pay him like a
• 1:39:15
  And the only way
• 1:39:16
  that he the only way that he knows it is he's gotta go out to do the interviews, to see what
• 1:39:21
  other teams are willing to give him, to see the authority, heard a little bit of talk from
• 1:39:25
  Mackie and Judd.
• 1:39:26
  Shout out always to Purple Daily.
• 1:39:28
  I I consume a lot of their content as I'm sure a lot of us do.
• 1:39:31
  But a lot of what they were talking about is is maybe they're a assistant head coaching, which
• 1:39:36
  I know somebody else on this team holds that title now, but is that something that's in
• 1:39:42
  there?
• 1:39:43
  That in case a, you know, a a KOC getting let go in the middle of the season is warranted,
• 1:39:50
  that it it's kind of like, hey.
• 1:39:52
  This is your job to take it.
• 1:39:54
  Because I don't know that he's gonna find that head.
• 1:39:56
  Even if he gets interviewed, I don't know if he gets the job because you don't know what
• 1:40:00
  conversations are going on behind closed doors
• 1:40:03
  Mhmm.
• 1:40:04
  With the league, you know, the the lawsuit still being out there and everything.
• 1:40:08
  Yeah, man.
• 1:40:09
  That's a that's been a scar on his career.
• 1:40:11
  And and I think, you know, to me, he can overcome the, you know, the the attitude or
• 1:40:17
  whatever.
• 1:40:18
  I know I saw a quote another quote today from Tua.
• 1:40:20
  Nobody cares, Tua.
• 1:40:21
  Nobody cares.
• 1:40:23
  Well,
• 1:40:24
  in Big B, you can help me out on this real quick if you could.
• 1:40:27
  I had made a post about giving Brian Flores a blank check, and Pat Daugherty senior, one of
• 1:40:36
  my one of my friends from my hometown, he commented, and he's like, well, he does you
• 1:40:41
  know, because I said to, like, pay him like a head coach.
• 1:40:44
  And he commented.
• 1:40:44
  He said, well, he is titled assistant head coach and d coordinator.
• 1:40:49
  Yep.
• 1:40:49
  So, I mean, that I mean, it's possible that's what I am right now, assistant head coach and
• 1:40:55
  defensive coordinator for the Wildman Cavalry.
• 1:40:58
  I don't I personally don't think no matter I I don't think he's leaving anywhere, especially
• 1:41:05
  with that lawsuit.
• 1:41:06
  And this is only only reason why I love this state and the whole Minnesota nice is because
• 1:41:11
  we're like, oh, well, maybe it wasn't his fault.
• 1:41:14
  Oh, maybe this or that, and then we give him a chance.
• 1:41:18
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:41:18
  We gave him a chance.
• 1:41:20
  So I don't think he's just gonna shit on us like that, to be honest.
• 1:41:25
  Yeah.
• 1:41:25
  It would have to be a a a huge deal.
• 1:41:28
  It would have to be a big opportunity, you know, for a team that is looking for a head
• 1:41:34
  coach for him to take that.
• 1:41:36
  You know, for in my personal opinion, from my experience, you know, I was coming I went from
• 1:41:41
  eleven man semi pro, you know, football team, the Minneapolis warriors.
• 1:41:47
  You know, they got that pedigree, national championships, you know, regular season
• 1:41:52
  championships, all this and that.
• 1:41:54
  And when the bears bears opportunity came up to be the head coach GM coming from a defensive
• 1:42:02
  backs position, you know, like, is the grass always greener on the other side type of thing?
• 1:42:10
  Like, I I took it because, I mean, I've always been that dude looking for a challenge, you
• 1:42:16
  know, on like, I've mentioned numerous times before, playing Madden whatever year, taking
• 1:42:22
  the one of the worst teams, taking a quarterback, low overall, like, I'm talking,
• 1:42:27
  like, sixties, maybe 58, and trying to make magic with them.
• 1:42:32
  They'd be the starter on this year's Minnesota.
• 1:42:34
  Facts.
• 1:42:36
  Facts.
• 1:42:36
  Honestly.
• 1:42:38
  You know?
• 1:42:38
  But
• 1:42:38
  a starter.
• 1:42:40
  You know?
• 1:42:41
  But, you know, it that's just, you know, are you up for that challenge, or do you want a
• 1:42:45
  sure thing?
• 1:42:46
  You know, if I'm
• 1:42:47
  I just looked it
• 1:42:48
  up that, he's not Mike Petten is the assistant head coach and has that title.
• 1:42:53
  He is just the defensive coordinator.
• 1:42:55
  Mike, who?
• 1:42:56
  No.
• 1:42:56
  I'm just kidding.
• 1:42:57
  I'm just kidding.
• 1:42:58
  I'm just kidding.
• 1:42:59
  Well and maybe that's something that comes with a couple extra million bucks too.
• 1:43:03
  Right?
• 1:43:04
  You know?
• 1:43:04
  You have to do something because it's undeniable what he means to this organization
• 1:43:09
  right now.
• 1:43:11
  And and I I can't agree with you more, Cody.
• 1:43:13
  Like, you you blank check him.
• 1:43:15
  And the only way to know what that value is is to let him go do the interviews, talk to a few
• 1:43:19
  of these other teams out there.
• 1:43:20
  And for me, like, I don't see him wanting to go back.
• 1:43:23
  Like, he did the bottom feeder.
• 1:43:25
  Right?
• 1:43:25
  Like, he went and lived that Miami life.
• 1:43:27
  Miami.
• 1:43:28
  Necessarily wants to go back to a shitty organization that doesn't care about winning.
• 1:43:33
  It's obvious that Minnesota cares about winning.
• 1:43:36
  They don't wanna tank.
• 1:43:37
  The the players that are in that room don't wanna tank.
• 1:43:41
  I mean, they're undefeated in December, and they've been out of it for most of the month.
• 1:43:46
  So guys are still showing up.
• 1:43:48
  They're still coming in to go to work.
• 1:43:50
  I think that means something.
• 1:43:51
  It speaks to the culture that they've built.
• 1:43:53
  And and KOC doesn't build this culture by himself.
• 1:43:57
  It's always been the two of them together.
• 1:43:59
  And I have to think that internally as men, as football coaches, and and coach being a
• 1:44:06
  defensive guy yourself and having Ben in the room that, like, there's there's unfinished
• 1:44:11
  business there.
• 1:44:13
  You know?
• 1:44:13
  That that this team, they know what they've built up to this point is capable.
• 1:44:18
  And I think, honestly, in a crappy year, it's proved it even more that this team is poised to
• 1:44:24
  make a deep playoff run more so now even after the trials and tribulations of this year.
• 1:44:31
  Like, zoom out.
• 1:44:32
  Zoom out on it from just the, like because we get so honed in on, like, each season, but
• 1:44:38
  maybe they're not looking at it like that.
• 1:44:39
  Right, Dart?
• 1:44:40
  Did you look at a team at in, like, three to five year arcs instead of just the seventeen
• 1:44:47
  game season or whatever it might be?
• 1:44:50
  A 100%.
• 1:44:51
  A 100%.
• 1:44:53
  I mean, it's a business.
• 1:44:55
  You know, you're trying to forecast how your business is gonna go.
• 1:45:00
  You know, taking all the salary caps, your draft picks, how many picks you have, taking
• 1:45:06
  that all into account and trying to, make a graph and project, like, okay.
• 1:45:12
  You know, based on, you know, the free agents coming in, there's so many different variables.
• 1:45:18
  But, I mean, I I honestly don't think Flores would would leave.
• 1:45:27
  We gave him we gave him that chance when not a lot of teams would.
• 1:45:31
  You're completely correct.
• 1:45:32
  You you know, as a as a football coach, yeah, I'm I'm down for that challenge.
• 1:45:41
  I'm I'm down to try to take a team that, you know, Hopkins, Minnesota, shout out to them, on
• 1:45:47
  a 28 game losing streak, having seniors that haven't even felt what it feels like to win a
• 1:45:53
  football game in high school, losing the first two games, turning around, you know, getting a
• 1:45:59
  five game or a three, four game winning streak, you know, and then building something off of
• 1:46:04
  that.
• 1:46:05
  I mean, it it he's not gonna he's got he's not gonna leave for sure thing.
• 1:46:10
  He's not he's not gonna leave unless it's big money.
• 1:46:13
  Like, I'm talking 3 and a half, $4,000,000,000.
• 1:46:16
  He's not leaving.
• 1:46:18
  Well and listen to, you know, the K fan this morning.
• 1:46:22
  You know, they talked about how he loves it here.
• 1:46:24
  His family's here.
• 1:46:25
  His, you know, his kids have grown, you know, into sports and stuff there.
• 1:46:30
  They brought up the Pittsburgh job that if if Tom will leave, that might be the one that he
• 1:46:35
  goes for.
• 1:46:36
  But, yeah, he's gonna shop around.
• 1:46:38
  He's gonna get it.
• 1:46:39
  I think that's gonna be our first big signing.
• 1:46:42
  I think it's gonna have to be, you know, keeping Flores here.
• 1:46:47
  And, again, they compared it to, well, Flores stays and maybe we get Hitman back for another
• 1:46:54
  year.
• 1:46:54
  You know?
• 1:46:55
  You know, maybe that's what Hitman is waiting for to see what Flores does.
• 1:46:58
  So I think Flores is number one on the list that, hey.
• 1:47:03
  We gotta lock him up before we decide, are we gonna work on the opposite side or do we need
• 1:47:08
  to find something for defense?
• 1:47:09
  So I think I think Flores is gonna be the big one.
• 1:47:12
  You know, and I I I agree.
• 1:47:14
  You know, if if I'm Flores, you know, we we would be absolute fools not to resign this guy.
• 1:47:23
  I mean, he's literally because because we all know Quasi can't do a damn thing with draft
• 1:47:29
  picks.
• 1:47:30
  So he's basically taken bottom of the barrel scraping leftovers that teams didn't want,
• 1:47:38
  finding them to fit in their scheme, and making how them household names of Van Ginkle.
• 1:47:45
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:47:46
  Like, it it's it's we we gotta keep them.
• 1:47:51
  And for Vikings fans, I I called it about, you know, three, four weeks ago, but I was like,
• 1:47:59
  hey.
• 1:48:00
  Watch us go on a winning streak.
• 1:48:02
  You know?
• 1:48:02
  As soon as we as soon as we start talking about draft picks, watch us go on that winning
• 1:48:07
  streak.
• 1:48:09
  It is it's crazy.
• 1:48:10
  But to think that we're eight and eight right now with the you know, going through
• 1:48:20
  quarterback one, two, and three, damn near four at one point.
• 1:48:27
  Well, I think that's another thing too that we learned about.
• 1:48:30
  Yeah.
• 1:48:31
  It's nice to have that rookie, but you need that solid backup.
• 1:48:34
  And, you know, once it went down, we didn't really sign anybody and just like, okay.
• 1:48:38
  Now we're going with a rookie quarterback.
• 1:48:40
  We're going with an undrafted rookie quarterback, and we're going with, you know,
• 1:48:44
  this guy.
• 1:48:45
  I mean, they should've went out and, you know, got somebody with some skill behind, you know,
• 1:48:52
  both of them if they weren't if they really didn't wanna play them.
• 1:48:55
  I mean, okay.
• 1:48:55
  We signed Ritter.
• 1:48:56
  Okay.
• 1:48:57
  Whoopi do.
• 1:48:58
  I mean, you
• 1:48:59
  know Right.
• 1:49:00
  So I was looking up details of the contract because he's a DC that the numbers aren't
• 1:49:08
  actually public, but I did see that, some of the things floated around was maybe as much as
• 1:49:14
  what, Vic Fangio got, which Vic got four and a half.
• 1:49:18
  KOC is making 13.
• 1:49:20
  Yeah.
• 1:49:21
  Right?
• 1:49:21
  And I know that's really high on the head coaching level.
• 1:49:25
  If teams are floating around, giving them $1,011,000,000 dollars a year, and, I mean,
• 1:49:29
  that's generational wealth for your family.
• 1:49:32
  Yeah.
• 1:49:32
  Right?
• 1:49:33
  That's a big difference.
• 1:49:34
  I don't know that the team and and do coaches count against the cap?
• 1:49:39
  I don't
• 1:49:40
  I don't I don't think so.
• 1:49:41
  But but the thing, yeah, you get 10,000,000 here with the team that okay.
• 1:49:46
  You got the Raiders that are probably looking for a coach.
• 1:49:48
  You got maybe Pittsburgh.
• 1:49:50
  I mean, some of these teams are building.
• 1:49:52
  You know?
• 1:49:53
  So it's like, okay.
• 1:49:54
  10,000,000 to be you know, how long am I gonna be there?
• 1:49:57
  How long are they gonna give me to build this team up?
• 1:50:00
  You know?
• 1:50:00
  It might be better to stay here in Minnesota for 3 to 4,000,000, and I already got my
• 1:50:06
  defense.
• 1:50:07
  I got the guys I want, you know, and that's what I'm worried about.
• 1:50:10
  You know?
• 1:50:10
  So And I think they're gonna have to pay him $56,000,000 at a minimum, and it's probably
• 1:50:15
  gonna have to be a three more.
• 1:50:17
  I I would think that their play will be in that because he's gonna be the number one defensive
• 1:50:23
  paid.
• 1:50:24
  Like, he's gotta be the top paid.
• 1:50:26
  So I think you're in that $56,000,000 range, and then you are probably talking about pushing
• 1:50:31
  it to the end of KOC's contract extension and getting everybody on the same timeline and
• 1:50:38
  saying, alright, fellas.
• 1:50:39
  This is it.
• 1:50:40
  You know?
• 1:50:41
  That's what b a brought up too.
• 1:50:42
  Big b.
• 1:50:45
  What did what did you say the number was?
• 1:50:47
  Because I I I I cut out and I came back and you were talking $56,000,000.
• 1:50:52
  Oh, no.
• 1:50:52
  No.
• 1:50:52
  Yeah.
• 1:50:53
  So I looked up big.
• 1:50:54
  It's not public.
• 1:50:56
  It's not public what they make, but Vic Fangio gets 4 and a half.
• 1:50:59
  So that's kinda what people think is probably in that, you know, 4 to 4 and a half range.
• 1:51:04
  Mhmm.
• 1:51:04
  But I'm saying to keep him then, it's gonna be 5 to 6, and it's gonna probably be pushing it
• 1:51:11
  to a I don't know how the contract so that'll be 26.
• 1:51:14
  So, yeah, probably like a three year extension, and it's gonna have to be worth more than 5.
• 1:51:19
  That that's what I would say.
• 1:51:21
  More than 5 per year.
• 1:51:22
  Because I know the AOC is
• 1:51:24
  making 13.
• 1:51:26
  So and that's what me and B were kinda talking about was that, you know, if a team's coming
• 1:51:30
  and offering him a, you know, three year deal at 10 to 12,000,000 a year to be the head
• 1:51:35
  coach, is that worth it to walk away?
• 1:51:38
  Or you say, hey.
• 1:51:39
  I'm gonna bank on myself going and maybe earning a ring, play the head coaching.
• 1:51:44
  Because he's not an old guy.
• 1:51:45
  Right?
• 1:51:46
  Like, Beefalo is not a and with the stench of this lawsuit being out there, who knows how
• 1:51:52
  many lists he's making it up to the top of anyway.
• 1:51:55
  Right?
• 1:51:56
  Like, just getting an interview is only one part of the process.
• 1:51:59
  No.
• 1:51:59
  And and that's the thing too is, you know and Paul Allen brought it up today that, you know,
• 1:52:05
  you extend them to the same same many as many years as KLC has so that these guys can build
• 1:52:12
  together.
• 1:52:12
  Then if it all falls apart, you know, do you look at KLC and let him go, you keep Flores if
• 1:52:19
  the defense is still stacking, you know, still stacked and and doing good, or you just let
• 1:52:24
  them both go at the same time and you start, you know, the ground zero again.
• 1:52:28
  Well and I don't I don't think that KOC or not KOC.
• 1:52:33
  I don't think Flores would ever even consider a, Steelers or Dolphins.
• 1:52:40
  I just I I don't think I
• 1:52:42
  going back to Miami.
• 1:52:43
  Isn't that where he had all the troubles with?
• 1:52:45
  Yeah.
• 1:52:46
  Yeah.
• 1:52:46
  Yeah.
• 1:52:47
  Yeah.
• 1:52:47
  And and the fact that, you know, I can't remember off the top of my head how many stops
• 1:52:53
  did he have before we were able to get him.
• 1:52:57
  And that and that's the thing too is, you know, he's already been the head coach, so he knows
• 1:53:01
  what it's like.
• 1:53:02
  You know?
• 1:53:02
  Yeah.
• 1:53:03
  Maybe the stress isn't worth it.
• 1:53:04
  Maybe that's something we're not taking into credit is that he he loves all the head coach
• 1:53:09
  talk because it's only increasing his value knowing that he's going to the Wilfs and going,
• 1:53:15
  look, man.
• 1:53:15
  This is what I could get.
• 1:53:18
  You know, I don't want to leave, but I will.
• 1:53:21
  And that's sense.
• 1:53:22
  And play in this contract out to the end too.
• 1:53:24
  Is that like, look.
• 1:53:25
  I don't need to sign anything.
• 1:53:27
  I I can go.
• 1:53:28
  I can go get this.
• 1:53:29
  And that's what he's coming back to him.
• 1:53:31
  I mean, to me, he's starting his negotiations at, I want 6 mil a year.
• 1:53:36
  I wanna be consistent head coach.
• 1:53:38
  Want be
• 1:53:39
  the first in line for that job should KOC ever get fired.
• 1:53:43
  Like, there are a lot of conditions to that contract, and he's in the position of power.
• 1:53:47
  Right?
• 1:53:47
  Especially with how this season has gone.
• 1:53:50
  He
• 1:53:50
  Oh,
• 1:53:50
  yeah.
• 1:53:50
  All the time.
• 1:53:51
  The thing is is I mean, you I mean, the only way to get a better offer is have two or more
• 1:53:57
  people talking.
• 1:53:58
  You only got one person talking, you ain't gonna get much.
• 1:54:01
  But if you got two or three people talking, you know I mean, just like, you know, I'm you know,
• 1:54:06
  been trying to sell cards.
• 1:54:07
  If I got two people battling on the same card, that's better for me.
• 1:54:10
  But if I got one guy, you know, it's it's gonna hurt me in trying to sell it.
• 1:54:14
  But yeah.
• 1:54:15
  Yeah.
• 1:54:15
  No.
• 1:54:16
  No.
• 1:54:16
  No.
• 1:54:16
  No.
• 1:54:17
  I I saw something.
• 1:54:18
  You can sell something that car.
• 1:54:20
  I'll send you some tips.
• 1:54:21
  Hey.
• 1:54:22
  But car.
• 1:54:23
  Can somebody get one at a price?
• 1:54:25
  I'm I'm telling you.
• 1:54:27
  I'm telling you.
• 1:54:27
  Tesla with the big screen.
• 1:54:29
  If
• 1:54:32
  I did that oh, man.
• 1:54:35
  My girl would not talk to me.
• 1:54:36
  I'm I'm surprised my girl talks to me right now, like, with all the stuff I got.
• 1:54:40
  For a girlfriend.
• 1:54:41
  That's crazy.
• 1:54:42
  That's so good.
• 1:54:43
  That hey.
• 1:54:44
  I'm when I told you I'm organized and I got my I'd I'm telling you.
• 1:54:48
  I got I I got my whole
• 1:54:50
  and I gotta clock out.
• 1:54:52
  But,
• 1:54:54
  you all, I probably do too.
• 1:54:55
  But, you know, all in all, let let's let's let's turn back to the game.
• 1:55:03
  Max Brosmer, I mean, it was his first prime time start, first start on Christmas, and he
• 1:55:09
  got a dub.
• 1:55:10
  Like, we we gotta give him flowers where he you know?
• 1:55:15
  Yeah.
• 1:55:16
  Oh, the defense is gonna be lights out again because I don't think they have any quit.
• 1:55:20
  And Harrison Smith is definitely trying to get that one interception and be part of that forty
• 1:55:25
  forty club.
• 1:55:27
  Like, the the this Is
• 1:55:28
  he at forty thirty nine
• 1:55:29
  right now?
• 1:55:30
  Highlight.
• 1:55:30
  Yeah.
• 1:55:31
  He has 39 picks.
• 1:55:31
  Yeah.
• 1:55:33
  He'll be he'll join.
• 1:55:34
  They said it today that if he gets this pick, his next pick will put him in the forty twenty
• 1:55:40
  club with 40 interceptions.
• 1:55:43
  I forgot what the 20 was.
• 1:55:44
  Probably
• 1:55:46
  fourth fumbles or sacks.
• 1:55:48
  Probably sacks.
• 1:55:49
  Yeah.
• 1:55:49
  Maybe.
• 1:55:50
  Maybe.
• 1:55:50
  He's got a bunch of those, but, I just is is Willis decent and good to go, or is it gonna be
• 1:55:59
  board battle of the third quarterbacks?
• 1:56:02
  I
• 1:56:03
  don't know.
• 1:56:04
  They, let's see.
• 1:56:05
  I'll look quick.
• 1:56:06
  But, yeah, they're talking they're talking that might get some action.
• 1:56:11
  Because like I said, I gave my stuff to Bubba real quick.
• 1:56:14
  Like, that called Guinness.
• 1:56:17
  A little bit.
• 1:56:19
  Call Guinness.
• 1:56:20
  Wow.
• 1:56:21
  They got, yeah, they got love questionable and Willis both questionable.
• 1:56:26
  Well, and that that injury to Willis, that was noncontact.
• 1:56:29
  Yeah.
• 1:56:30
  You don't play Love.
• 1:56:31
  So it's either going to Willis or Tune.
• 1:56:36
  Oh, that just makes me feel so good.
• 1:56:39
  I'm sorry, but, like, as a Vikings fan, you take the lions out of contention.
• 1:56:44
  The packers are gonna go to the playoffs, but they're not gonna do anything with it.
• 1:56:48
  Like, bears, I've said it from week one.
• 1:56:54
  I'll still say it.
• 1:56:55
  Caleb Williams is bottom of the barrel, scraping the bottom of the barrel.
• 1:57:01
  Yeah.
• 1:57:02
  But he's done I mean
• 1:57:04
  Scraping the bottom of the barrel.
• 1:57:05
  Yep.
• 1:57:06
  Yeah.
• 1:57:08
  I there there's a lot to be desired there still.
• 1:57:12
  Freak athlete, hell of an arm, but, you know, I I heard some of the bear and I didn't even
• 1:57:18
  listen to any of the podcasts or anything, but a lot of the headlines were like, moral
• 1:57:22
  victory.
• 1:57:22
  You hung in there with the niners.
• 1:57:25
  Does this mean you're a contender?
• 1:57:27
  And to me, was like, dude, you got a gift.
• 1:57:29
  You got a you got a touchdown gift, and you couldn't hang on to it.
• 1:57:34
  And and you needed all the heroics just to get down the hook and ladder to get to the three
• 1:57:40
  with a chance to get in that last moment.
• 1:57:42
  Like, that team that team is not there.
• 1:57:43
  And you're talking about a niners team.
• 1:57:45
  No Trent Williams.
• 1:57:46
  No George Kittle.
• 1:57:48
  Like, no whitewater on the defense.
• 1:57:51
  Right?
• 1:57:52
  Like, yeah, that's a pretty depleted now you gotta beat the team that's in front of you
• 1:57:56
  regardless, but you didn't.
• 1:57:58
  And and these teams coming into this last year, especially if San Francisco gets that buy and
• 1:58:05
  they win against the seahawks in the last game of the season and get that number one, you're
• 1:58:09
  looking at a much different niners team in the playoffs.
• 1:58:13
  Throughout the
• 1:58:13
  playoffs.
• 1:58:14
  Saw, and and you blew that.
• 1:58:16
  So, I mean, the bears, yes, much improved.
• 1:58:19
  They're real test this next season.
• 1:58:20
  You played the fourth place schedule this year, which kind of is, like, the worst part about
• 1:58:24
  winning on Christmas is now Detroit gets that, but I think Detroit's in they're in trouble,
• 1:58:29
  man.
• 1:58:29
  That franchise is going back down.
• 1:58:31
  I said it when they played Green Bay the first game of the season this year, like, oh, they're
• 1:58:35
  done.
• 1:58:36
  Like, they're they look old.
• 1:58:37
  They look slow.
• 1:58:39
  They don't have the same magic that Ben Johnson brought to them on that offense.
• 1:58:44
  Right?
• 1:58:45
  Like, it was different.
• 1:58:46
  And granted, they had some wins during the year, but they got exposed all year long.
• 1:58:50
  Well, that was and that was no joke.
• 1:58:53
  And that was a big talker going into the season.
• 1:58:55
  They allowed both offensive corners.
• 1:58:56
  What's that team gonna look like?
• 1:58:57
  And everybody's like, they're not losing players.
• 1:58:59
  They're gonna be the same, but, you know, we're we are looking at a different Lions team.
• 1:59:03
  And look at what Ben Johnson has done for that, you know, for a worst the a three win team a
• 1:59:10
  year ago.
• 1:59:11
  Right?
• 1:59:12
  Well
• 1:59:12
  and I know that we're a Vikings podcast and, you know, homers and all that, but I might have
• 1:59:20
  to hit up my buddy Luther Burton the third and see if he'll pop on here for a couple words
• 1:59:26
  because LeBears I mean, as much I I I can't stand Caleb Williams, but Luther Burton's my
• 1:59:33
  man.
• 1:59:34
  Let me let him let me shoot him a message and see what we can do.
• 1:59:38
  Well and all that stuff fades.
• 1:59:39
  I mean, great young talent.
• 1:59:41
  He's got all that Houdini like stuff.
• 1:59:44
  I mean, the his escapability, it's it's an x factor in what that offense can be.
• 1:59:50
  Right?
• 1:59:50
  But missing the open throws has been a thing.
• 1:59:54
  I watched a lot of it the year before.
• 1:59:56
  And even now, you're having that great I mean, we've seen it with the Vikings team last year.
• 2:00:00
  Right?
• 2:00:00
  All the fourth quarter comebacks and the one score games and all.
• 2:00:04
  Doing that against teams like the Raiders, doing that against the Vikings team that most
• 2:00:09
  people have been saying are a clown show this year, you've needed everything to get by a lot
• 2:00:14
  of bad football teams this year.
• 2:00:15
  That's all different.
• 2:00:16
  The real test of where that bears franchise is is next season when they're playing that first
• 2:00:21
  place schedule, and you see the test of a team then.
• 2:00:25
  And they could be right back to a middle of the pack like Detroit was this year fighting for
• 2:00:30
  their lives at the end one injury.
• 2:00:31
  I mean, that team without Caleb Williams and all of that escapability is probably a five win
• 2:00:37
  team.
• 2:00:38
  Right?
• 2:00:38
  So and that can happen.
• 2:00:40
  When you play with reckless abandon, you're one ACL injury away from, you know, a totally
• 2:00:48
  different, not just season, career.
• 2:00:51
  Right?
• 2:00:51
  Like
• 2:00:51
  And that's the thing.
• 2:00:53
  Same going with Mahomes coming off a his first real major injury of his career.
• 2:00:59
  He's gonna be a different player regardless coming back next year, and a lot of that
• 2:01:04
  escapability is what makes Patrick Mahomes what he has been for the beginning of this, you
• 2:01:10
  know, historic career run that he got off to.
• 2:01:12
  But, man, all bets are off coming back from a big injury like that.
• 2:01:16
  He should be thanking Andy Reid.
• 2:01:18
  I don't I don't give him any credit for that.
• 2:01:22
  But but the thing is is, you know, Bobby, you said it.
• 2:01:25
  You know, look at the throws that, you know, Caleb missed over the couple years.
• 2:01:28
  I mean, look at I mean, JJ.
• 2:01:32
  I mean, he was missing a lot of open receivers, you know, showing them throwing them short,
• 2:01:38
  throwing them high.
• 2:01:39
  So he gets out of the control.
• 2:01:41
  I mean, you know, we're talking about a different quarterback that
• 2:01:43
  Well, and Caleb Caleb played all the snaps last year.
• 2:01:46
  He hasn't missed the game.
• 2:01:48
  Right?
• 2:01:48
  He's had all of that time, but still, you know, for whatever reason.
• 2:01:52
  And, you know, I and that's what's so funny about, like, coming from that pair.
• 2:01:56
  That's why I said it was so toxic because not even the fan base can agree that either he's
• 2:02:00
  the man or he's a bust.
• 2:02:02
  And, there's still there's still arguing about the fact base here.
• 2:02:06
  Everybody's talking that, you know, at the beginning of the year that JJ was a bust, like,
• 2:02:10
  wouldn't play.
• 2:02:11
  So Winston plays, he ain't doing nothing.
• 2:02:13
  You know, once he gets hurt, JJ gets hurt.
• 2:02:15
  It's like, okay.
• 2:02:16
  Now it's Max's time.
• 2:02:17
  Let's go behind that.
• 2:02:18
  You do need a running game.
• 2:02:20
  Yeah.
• 2:02:22
  Yeah.
• 2:02:22
  Alright, man.
• 2:02:23
  Hey.
• 2:02:23
  We we've stayed on.
• 2:02:24
  We've talked a lot tonight.
• 2:02:26
  We I I really appreciate, everything you bring to this show, man.
• 2:02:31
  It's a pleasure getting to talk ball with you and hang out.
• 2:02:34
  Obviously, coach is is the knowledgeable one here and bringing in the ball talk.
• 2:02:41
  We got a lot more to come.
• 2:02:43
  I'm gonna try to follow the draft and stuff.
• 2:02:45
  I'm already planning.
• 2:02:46
  Coach is talking about, you know, planning your whole year out.
• 2:02:49
  Now with football dominating the back half of my fall and winter, I only have to play until,
• 2:02:55
  like, August.
• 2:02:56
  So You feel me?
• 2:02:57
  It gets easy.
• 2:02:58
  It gets easy once you do that.
• 2:03:00
  Planned out.
• 2:03:01
  I got big events coming.
• 2:03:02
  We got the tour in March, some award shows in May, festival another festival down in Houston
• 2:03:08
  we're hitting in June.
• 2:03:10
  My mom's sixtieth birthday is next July, so I'm taking, like, a week to go out to Colorado in
• 2:03:14
  July.
• 2:03:15
  I don't know that I'll be doing much.
• 2:03:16
  I wanna hit some golf content, though.
• 2:03:18
  I'm according some sponsors in the golf apparel world right now.
• 2:03:22
  I we talked about Performia last week on the show, but I I reached out, and I got a meeting
• 2:03:28
  later this week with another guy who's got connections to Callaway and some other groups.
• 2:03:33
  So, I'm looking
• 2:03:34
  Let me know.
• 2:03:34
  Yeah.
• 2:03:36
  I'll take I'll take some testing equipment, but, you know, you bring up golf, of course, we
• 2:03:41
  gotta shout out.
• 2:03:42
  Since you brought up golf, happy birthday, Tiger Woods.
• 2:03:45
  Tiger Woods.
• 2:03:45
  You know?
• 2:03:46
  Hey.
• 2:03:47
  So, yeah, talking about a man who did it at the at the highest level.
• 2:03:54
  He's the one I'll admit it.
• 2:03:56
  He's the one that got me interested in golf.
• 2:03:58
  He he got me golfing.
• 2:03:59
  I I was a a four sport athlete, football, basketball, wrestling, and baseball, and then
• 2:04:08
  baseball almost got taken over by golf.
• 2:04:11
  So Mhmm.
• 2:04:12
  Shout out Tiger Woods.
• 2:04:13
  You know, I was Tiger Woods, I'm still working on it.
• 2:04:19
  Well, we're gonna have a great time, man.
• 2:04:21
  We're gonna keep talking sports.
• 2:04:23
  As the Viking season ends, this weekend, we will be, maybe transitioning, maybe talking a
• 2:04:29
  little bit about the other Minnesota teams here and, you know, getting some hockey coverage in
• 2:04:34
  here as the wilds go on.
• 2:04:35
  Hopefully, they got a deep playoff run, and it gives us something to bank on besides draft
• 2:04:39
  coverage to get in there.
• 2:04:41
  Hey, man.
• 2:04:41
  It's at the wall of Saint Paul.
• 2:04:43
  Right?
• 2:04:43
  I've been falling a little bit.
• 2:04:45
  They may Hey.
• 2:04:45
  There you go.
• 2:04:46
  One of the biggest trades in NHL history.
• 2:04:50
  They'll have black I'm a big Blackhawks fan, Chicago guy still.
• 2:04:54
  But, yeah, we kinda took a slide when Bedard got hurt, so I've been really tuned out the
• 2:04:58
  last couple of weeks.
• 2:05:00
  They they were on, like, a six game losing streak and then, like, one one.
• 2:05:03
  They're gonna go right back on a six, seven game losing streak probably.
• 2:05:07
  So I've been tuned out a little bit of hockey.
• 2:05:09
  And
• 2:05:09
  But that's that's the thing.
• 2:05:11
  Minnesota wild fans, like, you can come at me with pitch for Ignatian if you if you think I'm
• 2:05:16
  wrong, but we always I'd say 9090% of the time, we start out hot.
• 2:05:23
  We're one of the hottest teams ever going into the, all star break trade deadline, and then
• 2:05:29
  we'll fizzle out.
• 2:05:30
  And then it's like we're the Minnesota Twins, and we're looking at that magic number.
• 2:05:35
  This is Absolutely ridiculous.
• 2:05:37
  Momentum whoever says momentum isn't a real thing.
• 2:05:42
  Or or or a flip flop where the wild start off slow and then they do something at the All Star
• 2:05:47
  break and then they heat up and then, okay, are they gonna make it?
• 2:05:51
  They need to win this game to stay in the playoff hunt to, you know, stuff like that.
• 2:05:54
  Magic number.
• 2:05:55
  Yeah.
• 2:05:57
  So but hey.
• 2:05:59
  This was the last one of 2025.
• 2:06:02
  You know what I'm saying?
• 2:06:03
  I just wanted to point that out.
• 2:06:05
  Bubba, I've had an amazing experience with you.
• 2:06:10
  I don't know.
• 2:06:11
  You probably already know, but I hate being on camera.
• 2:06:14
  But, I mean, this is fun.
• 2:06:16
  Just chilling with the fans.
• 2:06:18
  For your head coach and your NFL days coming up, coach.
• 2:06:21
  You gotta get Hey.
• 2:06:22
  Iowa days.
• 2:06:23
  There was Minnesota gopher days.
• 2:06:25
  Mean, that that Hey.
• 2:06:26
  I was gonna say
• 2:06:27
  I was gonna say, big b, you had me on Snap.
• 2:06:30
  I did apply for an assistant coaching job for University of Iowa and University of Minnesota
• 2:06:37
  and University of Minnesota Duluth.
• 2:06:39
  So, you know, even if I don't get it, I mean, I'm in their system.
• 2:06:44
  I'm on their radar.
• 2:06:45
  They probably have looked me up already.
• 2:06:47
  So that's what we gotta do.
• 2:06:49
  And that's the thing.
• 2:06:50
  I mean trying it's just like winning the Powerball.
• 2:06:53
  How many chances you had to win if you don't put buy a ticket?
• 2:06:56
  So you put your name in the head.
• 2:06:57
  I'm proud of you, Cody.
• 2:06:58
  You know, I've been in Cannon Falls since 2010.
• 2:07:02
  You know?
• 2:07:03
  So I've known you, you know, going out
• 2:07:05
  Oh, yeah.
• 2:07:05
  Fifteen years.
• 2:07:07
  You know?
• 2:07:07
  You met me in my you met me in my valley.
• 2:07:10
  Yep.
• 2:07:10
  Yep.
• 2:07:11
  Nope.
• 2:07:11
  I definitely am proud of how you know, the guy you come up with, the role model you've been.
• 2:07:16
  You know, like I told you before, man, if I was, you know, twenty years younger, I would
• 2:07:20
  have been at the trials with you playing or, you know, you know, doing stuff, definitely
• 2:07:25
  proud of you.
• 2:07:26
  You know what, Bea?
• 2:07:27
  You talked about losing some weight.
• 2:07:30
  Right?
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  We were talking about the jelly roll thing now.
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  You ain't gotta try out, and we gotta mention that your tryouts did get changed because the
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  weather got so shitty on you all.
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  I got the graphic.
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  I hit the new graphic we're gonna pull up here in a second.
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  But, b, I would love to see let's let's do it on for the people.
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  Right?
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  Let's get b losing some weight, Cody, and then you're gonna run them through some drills one
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  day.
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  We're gonna put it all on camera out there.
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  We're we're gonna get b running some wait.
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  Offensive or defensive line, b?
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  When I did play football, I played both lines.
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  Offense and defense, I, you know, definitely like the defensive side better because you had
• 2:08:07
  a chance to get the ball.
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  But, you know, it it when I played it, you know, it was center.
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  It was the guard, you know, and then on the opposite side, the ends and stuff.
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  So it it was a fun time.
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  You know?
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  No.
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  You got me thinking.
• 2:08:21
  You got me thinking because Uh-oh.
• 2:08:24
  I I still got my I still got my helmet.
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  I still got my pants.
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  I got my
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  got my
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  hoodlums and everything.
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  No.
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  But
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  I might have I
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  might have to have some of
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  We got sponsors, b.
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  We're gonna get you we're gonna get you suited up, baby.
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  One more time.
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  Four cameras next week.
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  You you and me both.
• 2:08:42
  I'll be a coach player.
• 2:08:46
  Well, you guys keep your eyes peeled for that.
• 2:08:49
  Lots of great content.
• 2:08:50
  Before we go, since we brought up the tryouts, throw the grass there.
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  Just tell everybody what's what the new schedule is.
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  Absolutely.
• 2:09:00
  So for people just tuning in for the first time, my name is coach Cody Hamadahl.
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  I'm the assistant head coach and defensive coordinator for the Wyoming cavalry.
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  We had try we were going to have tryouts, this past Sunday, but because of the snow, eight
• 2:09:17
  inches plus, I decided I'm not gonna put my players through that.
• 2:09:21
  I don't want anything bad to happen.
• 2:09:23
  So we rescheduled it to Saturday, January 10, 10AM to noon, and I just you know, I'm I'm
• 2:09:34
  excited.
• 2:09:34
  I want all ballers to show up.
• 2:09:37
  If you're a dog, if you're not shy of competition, you want you know, you've been
• 2:09:42
  playing this sport forever, wanna get paid to play, maybe put some film on tape that way you
• 2:09:48
  can send it to, you know, the u CFL, you know, a f f one, or, you know, maybe even land a spot
• 2:09:58
  on the practice squad for the, you know, a professional team, Minnesota Vikings.
• 2:10:03
  Come on out.
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  You know, I'll I'll I'll take you along.
• 2:10:07
  I'll bring you on this journey, and, we'll get you elevated real quick.
• 2:10:12
  Promise you that.
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  Tokusaka Center, Saturday, January 10, 10AM to noon.
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  Awesome.
• 2:10:21
  Yeah.
• 2:10:21
  And, yeah, a little inside baseball, a tease for y'all, potential new sponsor coming on the
• 2:10:27
  show.
• 2:10:27
  They're based in Burnsville too.
• 2:10:29
  So whenever we get a little, crossover action there, I throw it out there, see if we don't
• 2:10:34
  get them in the house to kinda
• 2:10:35
  check out
• 2:10:36
  what coach Cody brings to the table and, the competition down there.
• 2:10:41
  Great to follow this journey.
• 2:10:43
  Second, everything that Bee said as well, coach.
• 2:10:46
  It's been a pleasure.
• 2:10:47
  I've kinda caught you back on the come up a little bit.
• 2:10:50
  I know you're a long ways from sleeping in your vehicle now and, doing it, but chasing your
• 2:10:56
  dream, man.
• 2:10:57
  I'm
• 2:10:57
  I'm a dream chaser too, and and it's nice to be on this journey together now.
• 2:11:02
  And, man, you talk about elevating the platform, brother.
• 2:11:06
  You you coaching the Golden Gophers in any in any capacity is gonna do nothing but help me
• 2:11:13
  and my dreams.
• 2:11:14
  So we're gonna keep on pushing.
• 2:11:16
  And and this has a big deal to do with it, man.
• 2:11:18
  Name recognition and people being able to see you and hear you, you're putting out tape in
• 2:11:23
  every way.
• 2:11:24
  Right?
• 2:11:24
  Showing up, given your takes on football, showing your knowledge, but also showing who
• 2:11:30
  you are as a man every day.
• 2:11:32
  And that's why it's so important to, get out here to go live at least once a week and, to
• 2:11:37
  come out and to talk about your team when your season gets started with the Wyoming cavalry as
• 2:11:42
  well.
• 2:11:42
  So looking forward to a lot more great content and sharing these moments with you guys and,
• 2:11:47
  getting out on the golf course when the weather finally warms up.
• 2:11:50
  Oh, yeah.
• 2:11:50
  Absolutely.
• 2:11:51
  And, you know, I I get you know, my my girls, she she gives me a lot of crap lately.
• 2:11:57
  She's like, hey.
• 2:11:58
  You post a lot.
• 2:11:59
  Like, your stories are looking like caterpillars.
• 2:12:02
  That's what you want.
• 2:12:03
  You know?
• 2:12:03
  That's what you that's that's when you know you're doing things right and that
• 2:12:07
  you Yeah.
• 2:12:07
  Because then people gotta tap that shit, like, 14 times to get by.
• 2:12:10
  Oh, yeah.
• 2:12:10
  Oh, Oh, yeah.
• 2:12:11
  And and they you know?
• 2:12:13
  And I I had one I had one girl.
• 2:12:15
  She she's like, Saint Paul Bears.
• 2:12:18
  I keep on I keep on, like, pat just pressing through it.
• 2:12:23
  But you keep posting about it, so I just had to see it.
• 2:12:25
  And I was like, yeah.
• 2:12:27
  Yeah.
• 2:12:27
  Consistent.
• 2:12:28
  You're gonna see it.
• 2:12:29
  I'm gonna shove it down your throat.
• 2:12:31
  I'm a, you know, I'm a promote, do my thing, and make sure you know what I'm all about.
• 2:12:36
  You know?
• 2:12:36
  And I'm just I'm I'm blessed for this opportunity.
• 2:12:40
  You know?
• 2:12:40
  It just seems like yesterday, we were up at Grand Casino, man.
• 2:12:43
  Like, honestly, it it seems like this yesterday.
• 2:12:46
  Ago, man.
• 2:12:46
  It was, like, nine months ago,
• 2:12:48
  and it was Just nine months.
• 2:12:50
  Right?
• 2:12:51
  I mean, you know, was March.
• 2:12:53
  It was no time.
• 2:12:54
  Yep.
• 2:12:54
  So, I mean, you know, anything anything can happen.
• 2:12:58
  You just you know, everybody wants everybody wants the that big goal, that big something,
• 2:13:05
  but at the same time, everyone's like, oh, I'll wait until this happens, or, maybe after this
• 2:13:11
  happens, it's never gonna be the right time to just do it.
• 2:13:14
  So Yeah.
• 2:13:15
  That's what I wanna leave with you.
• 2:13:17
  Yeah.
• 2:13:17
  You gotta make the moments happen.
• 2:13:19
  Exactly, coach.
• 2:13:20
  And, yeah, just blessed, man.
• 2:13:21
  B, appreciate you.
• 2:13:23
  Let you guys go.
• 2:13:24
  We will get together for some pregame action.
• 2:13:27
  The last time for this season on Sunday, I'm assuming it's not gonna get flat.
• 2:13:32
  Have they announced that it's gonna be the twelve game?
• 2:13:36
  The 12:00
• 2:13:36
  game?
• 2:13:37
  They're they're not moving it.
• 2:13:38
  Right.
• 2:13:39
  Well, it was TBD.
• 2:13:40
  They didn't even list the time, but
• 2:13:42
  Yeah.
• 2:13:42
  They didn't list the time when I saw it either.
• 2:13:44
  Yeah.
• 2:13:44
  It was I I think the TBD was either they're gonna play on the third or the fourth.
• 2:13:49
  So
• 2:13:50
  Oh, I see.
• 2:13:51
  I see.
• 2:13:51
  Nice.
• 2:13:52
  If if it was something to play for, they probably would have flexed it deeper.
• 2:13:55
  But Right.
• 2:13:56
  You know?
• 2:13:56
  But, yeah, thanks for having me.
• 2:13:58
  I enjoyed talking to all sports.
• 2:14:00
  You know, I'll I'll pull something out of my hat for hockey season.
• 2:14:03
  I mean, I know I live in the state of hockey, but it's so hard to follow these guys because
• 2:14:07
  you can't pronounce half the names.
• 2:14:09
  You know?
• 2:14:13
  Yeah.
• 2:14:14
  Good stuff.
• 2:14:14
  Look.
• 2:14:14
  Your coach
• 2:14:15
  is getting ready to go back out and go to work.
• 2:14:17
  Hey.
• 2:14:17
  You already know.
• 2:14:19
  You already know.
• 2:14:21
  Alright, gentlemen.
• 2:14:22
  Well, y'all be safe, coach.
• 2:14:24
  You drive safe out there.
• 2:14:25
  Don't work too hard.
• 2:14:26
  Be Oh, yeah.
• 2:14:27
  Enjoy your day off, tomorrow.
• 2:14:29
  Everybody have a happy and safe New Year celebration.
• 2:14:33
  Bring home something big from Dave and Buster's, b.
• 2:14:36
  Yeah.
• 2:14:36
  We will all the way.
• 2:14:38
  Screenshot that stuff, so have a good one.
• 2:14:41
  Alright, man.
• 2:14:42
  Have a happy New Year.
• 2:14:44
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• 2:14:44
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